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>> also tonight, on the move. >> also tonight, on the move. slowly. slowly. as wings and wheels slog towards as wings and wheels slog towards grandma's we look towards what's grandma's we look towards what's ahead for that long trip home. ahead for that long trip home. and what's not to and what's not to love? love? ball of starch, wrapped in dough ball of starch, wrapped in dough and fried. and fried. new new york's beloved york's beloved knish, and knish, and what's on the menu. what's on the menu. >> we could never have imagined >> we could never have imagined the outcry for when they're the outcry for when they're going to be going to be back back . . >> good evening, thanks for >> good evening, thanks for being with us. being with us. i'm joie chen. i'm joie chen. as we begin this holiday most as we begin this holiday most closely associated with closely associated with celebration, with abundance and
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celebration, with abundance and even excess, it might be a even excess, it might be a little unfair of us to ask you little unfair of us to ask you to stop and consider the worry to stop and consider the worry and the anxiety of many american and the anxiety of many american families on the periphery of the families on the periphery of the economic safety net. economic safety net. but it is an important moment we but it is an important moment we believe to think about the believe to think about the growing need of the many growing need of the many americans who are faced every americans who are faced every day with a choice between paying day with a choice between paying basic bills or feeding their basic bills or feeding their families. families. what do you do when you can't what do you do when you can't fill the fridge, when you're not fill the fridge, when you're not sure how you feed your child or sure how you feed your child or your children tomorrow? your children tomorrow? academics put a label on it, academics put a label on it, they call it food insecurity and they call it food insecurity and it is a present and growing it is a present and growing problem even in our land of problem even in our land of plenty. plenty. america america tonight's sheila tonight's sheila macvicar explains this with macvicar explains this with food for thought. food for thought. >> the brirl yant family of >> the brirl yant family of baltimore are a baltimore are a tight-knit tight-knit clan. clan. twins tabby and twins tabby and gabby. gabby. >> the big one down there zack >> the big one down there zack
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not the small one. not the small one. >> julie and aaron have been >> julie and aaron have been together since they were together since they were teenagers and in 22 years, they teenagers and in 22 years, they have never spent a night apart. have never spent a night apart. family first is their motto, and family first is their motto, and their desire to provide for their desire to provide for their children is the bedrock of their children is the bedrock of their lives. their lives. these days, there are some hard these days, there are some hard choices to make. choices to make. >> that's really cheap. >> that's really cheap. $1.77 for ocean $1.77 for ocean spray. spray. >> the brians count five of the >> the brians count five of the 47 million americans currently 47 million americans currently on food on food standpoint or standpoint or supplemental nutrition supplemental nutrition assistance program, it's hardly assistance program, it's hardly enough to keep the wolf from the enough to keep the wolf from the door. door. the program just took a big cut. the program just took a big cut. lopping off $50 a month from the lopping off $50 a month from the brians already tight brians already tight budget. budget. >> what does it mean for you >> what does it mean for you that you're in this position? that you're in this position? where you have to think where you have to think constantly about food and your constantly about food and your
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kids and feeding your kids? kids and feeding your kids? >> it's hard. >> it's hard. it's hard it's hard breaking. breaking. and it's frustrating at a point and it's frustrating at a point because it's like you know, i because it's like you know, i don't want my kids to ever be don't want my kids to ever be hungry. hungry. you know and it's really hard -- you know and it's really hard -- >> that bothers us more than >> that bothers us more than anything. anything. any bill, anything. any bill, anything. if our kids can't eat then she's if our kids can't eat then she's a very upset person. a very upset person. >> i try not to cry in front of >> i try not to cry in front of them but when they'll come to me them but when they'll come to me and the refrigerator or the and the refrigerator or the pantry's empty and they'll say pantry's empty and they'll say well what are we going to eat? well what are we going to eat? >> almost one in six americans >> almost one in six americans are living what is known with are living what is known with food insecurity. food insecurity. a term which captures both a term which captures both hunger and the fear of hunger. hunger and the fear of hunger. it means nutritious sufficient it means nutritious sufficient affordable food is not affordable food is not consistently available because consistently available because the family doesn't have the the family doesn't have the funds even with federal funds even with federal assistance to be able to buy it. assistance to be able to buy it. zachary tabby and gabby don't zachary tabby and gabby don't know about the food stamps they know about the food stamps they
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live on since june and their live on since june and their parents don't want them to. parents don't want them to. >> they live on a food card. >> they live on a food card. >> what's a food card? >> what's a food card? >> it's like a credit card that >> it's like a credit card that once once a month we can get food on a month we can get food on but unfortunately it is food but unfortunately it is food stamps. stamps. i had no money, we didn't have i had no money, we didn't have any stores anywhere, any stores anywhere, i couldn't i couldn't watches my kids go hungry so i watches my kids go hungry so i had to suck up my pride and go had to suck up my pride and go and apply for food stamps. and apply for food stamps. >> it was -- wow for me to >> it was -- wow for me to swallow my pride you have no swallow my pride you have no idea what that was like. idea what that was like. i work. i work. i -- i am not lazy. i -- i am not lazy. i work every i work every day. day. and to apply for food stamps and to apply for food stamps was -- was a new low for me. was -- was a new low for me. >> even the free things that you >> even the free things that you know, it involves parking you know, it involves parking you have to pay for parking. have to pay for parking. it's free to come but you got to it's free to come but you got to pay for parking or it's free to pay for parking or it's free to get in but you can't bring food get in but you can't bring food in, you have to buy our food. in, you have to buy our food. if i spend that $5 to take my if i spend that $5 to take my
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kids out for a day of fun where kids out for a day of fun where am i going to get toilet paper am i going to get toilet paper and stuff from? and stuff from? >> not too long ago the brians >> not too long ago the brians were a middle class family were a middle class family who who had money to redecorate and take had money to redecorate and take the kids to the kids to functions. functions. but that changed. but that changed. >> i was on >> i was on welfare, my mother welfare, my mother was the single parent of seven was the single parent of seven kids. kids. i always said there's no way in i always said there's no way in this world that i'm going to be this world that i'm going to be on welfare. on welfare. in 2007 i could have sat here in 2007 i could have sat here and told you i'll probably and told you i'll probably retire at 55. retire at 55. that's how well we were doing. that's how well we were doing. >> that's six years ago. >> that's six years ago. >> that's only six years ago. >> that's only six years ago. and in six years i'm on food and in six years i'm on food stamps. stamps. >> aaron is a construction >> aaron is a construction project manager. project manager. in the last year and a half he's in the last year and a half he's had just one four-month job. had just one four-month job. when he had full time work he when he had full time work he made $60,000 a year. made $60,000 a year.
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he's run out of unemployment he's run out of unemployment insurance and these days looks insurance and these days looks for the odd $100 a day side job for the odd $100 a day side job wherever he can. wherever he can. still it's still it's nowhere near enough nowhere near enough to pay even the mortgage or the to pay even the mortgage or the host of other monthly bills. host of other monthly bills. >> i can show you, i must send >> i can show you, i must send out 30 out 30 to to 40 resumes a month, a 40 resumes a month, a month, to beat the odds. month, to beat the odds. >> and some of the jobs he apply >> and some of the jobs he apply for says full time here in for says full time here in maryland but when they call him maryland but when they call him back it ends up being part time back it ends up being part time or it ends up they had one they or it ends up they had one they wanted him to go to texas. wanted him to go to texas. i'm not picking my family up and i'm not picking my family up and leaving and the chance of leaving and the chance of him him being there for that opportunity being there for that opportunity and then they let him go and and then they let him go and there we've uprooted our family. there we've uprooted our family. >> was it more -- >> was it more -- >> we used to buy ham bologna >> we used to buy ham bologna cheese, and all that stuff. cheese, and all that stuff.
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>> what is your >> what is your favorite? favorite? shrimp salad. shrimp salad. >> and second best is the >> and second best is the chicken pot pie. chicken pot pie. >> chicken pot pie, hmm? >> chicken pot pie, hmm? you hate chicken pot you hate chicken pot pie? pie? (laughing). (laughing). >> at least zack, tabby and >> at least zack, tabby and gabby have been exposed to gabby have been exposed to healthy food. healthy food. many children from food insecure many children from food insecure families haven't. families haven't. food choices are hard. food choices are hard. healthy foods like fruits and healthy foods like fruits and vegetables have grown more vegetables have grown more costly. costly. >> our student population is 80% >> our student population is 80% eligible for the federal free eligible for the federal free and reduced lunch and reduced lunch program. program. >> matt horn beck is the >> matt horn beck is the principal of the academy where principal of the academy where the brian children attend the brian children attend school. school. you would never know it but this you would never know it but this is classified as an inner city is classified as an inner city school with high percentage of school with high percentage of pupils from families that are pupils from families that are struggling to get by. struggling to get by. the school offers a free the school offers a free breakfast. breakfast. >> we have hot food, >> we have hot food, pancakes pancakes sausages eggs breakfast pizza
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sausages eggs breakfast pizza orange juice milk lots of good orange juice milk lots of good stuff. stuff. >> but >> but mr. hornbrook has more mr. hornbrook has more than free lunches than free lunches and -- free and -- free breakfast and subsidized breakfast and subsidized lunches. lunches. a class called food for life. a class called food for life. >> it's pretty good. >> it's pretty good. that means i don't really care that means i don't really care for it. for it. not my favorite. not my favorite. >> let's vote >> let's vote on the on the guacamole. guacamole. 1-2-3 vote. 1-2-3 vote. i don't force kids to eat i don't force kids to eat vegetables. vegetables. if they don't want if they don't want to, that's to, that's okay. okay. it's the no it's the no yuk rule, no yuck, yuk rule, no yuck, no yum. no yum. >> washing and distributing >> washing and distributing fresh fruit and vegetables in a fresh fruit and vegetables in a federally funneled program until federally funneled program until the program was cut. the program was cut. paid her 250 to $500 a month, paid her 250 to $500 a month, and she knew the kids not just and she knew the kids not just
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her own were getting a healthy her own were getting a healthy snack. snack. now, that comes out of the now, that comes out of the family food stamp family food stamp allowance. allowance. which doesn't add up to much. which doesn't add up to much. >> 750 for five people,. >> 750 for five people,. >> that's just over $8 a meal >> that's just over $8 a meal for a family of five. for a family of five. the strain of trying to make the the strain of trying to make the family equation come out right family equation come out right is palpable. is palpable. >> i mean i cry so many nights, >> i mean i cry so many nights, it's like, really, hard, i can't it's like, really, hard, i can't sleep. sleep. i've had weeks without sleep i've had weeks without sleep because i'm just crying because because i'm just crying because i don't know how tomorrow's i don't know how tomorrow's going to be. going to be. you know you can have your good you know you can have your good days and your bad days, one day days and your bad days, one day i'm like yay, there's hope. i'm like yay, there's hope. and then the phone call and all and then the phone call and all that hope you've just had is that hope you've just had is watched away. watched away. it's hard -- washed away. it's hard -- washed away. it's hard. it's hard. >> how do you guys get out of >> how do you guys get out of the situation? the situation? >> how will we get out? >> how will we get out? >> yeah, how do you get out of >> yeah, how do you get out of this? this? >> i pray to god that he gets a >> i pray to god that he gets a
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job, i get a part time job, some job, i get a part time job, some miracle comes that we can get miracle comes that we can get help, we can get caught up on help, we can get caught up on our mortgage. our mortgage. we can get food stamps. we can get food stamps. >> the brians do not have a fall >> the brians do not have a fall back plan. back plan. when the phone rings they hope when the phone rings they hope it's a job offer and not another it's a job offer and not another bill bill collector. collector. and aaron has a side job and aaron has a side job stringing christmas lights in stringing christmas lights in the next few days. the next few days. there will be food in the there will be food in the refrigerator at least for the refrigerator at least for the next few days. next few days. have is we spoke to julie and have is we spoke to julie and brian this afternoon. brian this afternoon. they will have a thanksgiving they will have a thanksgiving dinner because a teacher from dinner because a teacher from the children's school has given the children's school has given them a them a turkey. turkey. that's one piece of good news. that's one piece of good news. julie has gotten some of the julie has gotten some of the bill collectors back off and the bill collectors back off and the money will make money will make sure the sure the electricity and the gas are not electricity and the gas are not disconnected. disconnected. so very, very tight. so very, very tight. >> heartbreaking to look at. >> heartbreaking to look at. is there any way to gauge how
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is there any way to gauge how many other families are out many other families are out there like this? there like this? >> 45 million americans on snap, >> 45 million americans on snap, that's the food assistance that's the food assistance program. program. of those 45 million, about 85% of those 45 million, about 85% of them are families like the of them are families like the brians. brians. it's a picture perhaps of food it's a picture perhaps of food insecurity, that is not what we insecurity, that is not what we would expect to see. would expect to see. and it's about not just hunger and it's about not just hunger because it's not really hunger. because it's not really hunger. it's about the fear of hunger it's about the fear of hunger cliff. cliff. this is a family that was a this is a family that was a middle class family, just a middle class family, just a very, very short time ago. very, very short time ago. >> and they can make all the >> and they can make all the difference, just one incident, difference, just one incident, one change in their status. one change in their status. now, they said just over $8 a now, they said just over $8 a meal. meal. what do you feed a family on what do you feed a family on that? that? bread. bread. this is a family that you know this is a family that you know they know they know about about nutrition and nutrition and they are very cognizant that they are very cognizant that their kids eat their kids eat
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well. well. you know you know ramen noodles. ramen noodles. they are ten for they are ten for $1. $1. but the kids are using more but the kids are using more substance. substance. >> they know they need it. >> they know they need it. >> they know they need it, and >> they know they need it, and there is subsidized lunches in there is subsidized lunches in the school to make sure that the school to make sure that kids and they hope their parents kids and they hope their parents can make healthy choices and can make healthy choices and economical economical choices. choices. >> really around this community >> really around this community there's got to be a lot of there's got to be a lot of insecurity. insecurity. >> 80% of the kids in that >> 80% of the kids in that school come from families that school come from families that brians. brians. this is nonan anomaly. this is nonan anomaly. 80% of the kids in that school. 80% of the kids in that school. -- not an anomaly. -- not an anomaly. you would never know it was an you would never know it was an inner city inner city school. school. >> thank you >> thank you sheila. sheila. sheila macvicar for us. sheila macvicar for us. there's more foot for thought there's more foot for thought for us when we come back. for us when we come back. making sense of food waste. making sense of food waste. so many people are in need. so many people are in need. we'll try to explain it. we'll try to explain it. stay with us. stay with us.
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turn down a piece of turn down a piece of bruised bruised fruit. fruit. >> the economy in america has >> the economy in america has created a culture of abundance, created a culture of abundance, you want the perfect fruit. you want the perfect fruit. and a lot of food goes to and a lot of food goes to waste, waste, in order to be america's in order to be america's pantry, pantry, the food system does generate a the food system does generate a lot of waste. lot of waste. if you are interested in why it if you are interested in why it is people go hungry, it's is people go hungry, it's not not that wasted that wasted food food is not ending is not ending up in the up in the plates of poor people, plates of poor people, but that people are poor. but that people are poor. we actually have enough food to we actually have enough food to feed the world plenty. feed the world plenty. the reason people go hungry the reason people go hungry today is not because of a today is not because of a shortage of food or even if that shortage of food or even if that food is slightly brown but food is slightly brown but because people are poor and because people are poor and poverty is the reason people are poverty is the reason people are unable to access that food.
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unable to access that food. >> isn't it true that you can go >> isn't it true that you can go from being hungry to being obese from being hungry to being obese which seems sort of like some which seems sort of like some kind of disconnect and how can kind of disconnect and how can that possibly be? that possibly be? >> well, i agree with raj, that >> well, i agree with raj, that the central issue is poverty. the central issue is poverty. and ironically, hunger and and ironically, hunger and obesity are flip sides of the obesity are flip sides of the same mal same mal malnutrition coin. malnutrition coin. healther food often takes longer healther food often takes longer to prepare and to prepare and people in poverty people in poverty are traf traflg in public are traf traflg in public transportation and don't have a transportation and don't have a lot of money for that, some kind lot of money for that, some kind of proof that there's no hupger of proof that there's no hupger in america but that's in america but that's preposterous. preposterous. the neighborhoods that have the the neighborhoods that have the highest level of poverty and highest level of poverty and hunger also happen to have hunger also happen to have ironically the highest levels of ironically the highest levels of obesity. obesity. >> why does it happen that you >> why does it happen that you know, if you realize that you know, if you realize that you
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could do better for your family, could do better for your family, you could create more nutrition you could create more nutrition -- -- nutritious meals, by eating more nutritious meals, by eating more fruits and vegetables, why fruits and vegetables, why doesn't that happen? doesn't that happen? >> 20% of all food >> 20% of all food stamps stamps are are spent on fruits and spent on fruits and vegetables, vegetables, often more expensive than junk often more expensive than junk food, they're often harder to food, they're often harder to get in low income neighborhoods. get in low income neighborhoods. they go bad more quickly so they go bad more quickly so working people who are low working people who are low income often can't income often can't control their control their schedules for the week, and if schedules for the week, and if their boss makes them work their boss makes them work overtime their fruit rots at overtime their fruit rots at home. home. and and so i'm often careful that we so i'm often careful that we don't blame the victim. don't blame the victim. >> when we think about changing >> when we think about changing the diet of the american, that the diet of the american, that goes back to the farm itself. goes back to the farm itself. >> it does, so many things have >> it does, so many things have conspired to get us into very
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conspired to get us into very bad eating habits. bad eating habits. again again eating habits make it seem eating habits make it seem that the person that pops footd that the person that pops footd food into their mouths. food into their mouths. we do need to take we do need to take responsibility for the choices responsibility for the choices we have. we have. but the choices aren't ones of but the choices aren't ones of our own making. our own making. obviously when we think about obviously when we think about the food that's grown on farms the food that's grown on farms in the u.s. today, those foods in the u.s. today, those foods are not fresh fruits and are not fresh fruits and vegetables. vegetables. the majority of the farm output the majority of the farm output of the united states is a of the united states is a commodity crop that is destined commodity crop that is destined either to be fed to either to be fed to animals, animals, cheap meat or to be turned into cheap meat or to be turned into fuel or to high fuel or to high fructose corn fructose corn syrup. syrup. what we need to think about is what we need to think about is not the diet end of things but not the diet end of things but the individual person, the scope the individual person, the scope of responsibility is choices of responsibility is choices that we have of our own making that we have of our own making but too often the food system is but too often the food system is carved out by large and powerful carved out by large and powerful corporations to subsidize their corporations to subsidize their products rather than the product products rather than the product that is good for the majority of
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that is good for the majority of americans. americans. >> joel can you talk about the >> joel can you talk about the subsidies of the farm system and subsidies of the farm system and how that plays a role? how that plays a role? >> we spend billions of dollars >> we spend billions of dollars a year of u.s. tax dollars to go a year of u.s. tax dollars to go to corporate to corporate agribusiness. agribusiness. the cato 92 it and the heritage the cato 92 it and the heritage foundation they foundation they opposed these opposed these subsidies as well. subsidies as well. most moderates oppose them as a most moderates oppose them as a waste of tax dollars. waste of tax dollars. then why are they still there? then why are they still there? why haven't they been seriously why haven't they been seriously are reformed to are reformed to help small help small vegetable produces vegetable produces and help and help moderate americans? moderate americans? because agribusiness has given because agribusiness has given more than more than $600 $600 billion to billion to government to keep this horrible government to keep this horrible system in place. system in place. >> as we change our diet or >> as we change our diet or don't change our diet we don't change our diet we dominate the world's food dominate the world's food culture.
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culture. >> we do and that has happened >> we do and that has happened through things like the world through things like the world trade organization like the u.s. trade organization like the u.s. and the european union pushed a and the european union pushed a particular vision of what the particular vision of what the system should look like. system should look like. while the u.s. is allowed to while the u.s. is allowed to subsidize its large corporate subsidize its large corporate farm produces and i disagree farm produces and i disagree with joel here i think farming with joel here i think farming does deserve support, does deserve support, particularly if you're particularly if you're interested in supporting farmers interested in supporting farmers in the global south in in the global south in developing countries or developing countries or worldwide you need to support worldwide you need to support farmers because most poor people farmers because most poor people in the global south are working in the global south are working in rural areas. in rural areas. but the international trade but the international trade policy has prevented poor policy has prevented poor countries from subsidizing their countries from subsidizing their poor poor farmers, we subsidize to farmers, we subsidize to the tune of billions of dollars the tune of billions of dollars a year to the wrong people. a year to the wrong people. >> let's be clear i support >> let's be clear i support small farmers and particularly small farmers and particularly small farmers in the developing small farmers in the developing world. world. that's not where our subsidies that's not where our subsidies are going to. are going to. >> quite >> quite absolutely.
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absolutely. >> we appreciate you joel and >> we appreciate you joel and raj for being here. raj for being here. >> thanks for having us. >> thanks for having us. >> how do >> how do we get nutritious food we get nutritious food to those who need it? to those who need it? one idea is the food rescue one idea is the food rescue mission, mission, the the campus that rest campus that rest accuse food and delivers it to accuse food and delivers it to food food pantries around the area. pantries around the area. >> we are going >> we are going to alexandria to alexandria called del called del rey. rey. they make food donation for us. they make food donation for us. it's a real crime in our it's a real crime in our affluent society that we have as affluent society that we have as many people as we do who go many people as we do who go hungry and at the same time we hungry and at the same time we are throwing out all of this are throwing out all of this healthy food. healthy food. >> 40% of the food in the united >> 40% of the food in the united states is wasted. states is wasted. 52% of fresh produce in our 52% of fresh produce in our country is wasted. country is wasted. the more produce is wasted than the more produce is wasted than is even is even eaten. eaten.
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>> you keep it, you sell it. >> you keep it, you sell it. okay? okay? take what's left. take what's left. we want them to sell as much as we want them to sell as much as they can because this is a they can because this is a business for them and they're business for them and they're making a living. making a living. we only want to take what they we only want to take what they can't sell or aren't going to be can't sell or aren't going to be able to sell. able to sell. >> campus kitchen at washington, >> campus kitchen at washington, d.c. is part of our national d.c. is part of our national network of 34 campus kitchens network of 34 campus kitchens across the country. across the country. we have as a whole network we have as a whole network recovered 3 million pounds recovered 3 million pounds of of food and take food that is food and take food that is wasted and transform wasted and transform it to it to nutritious meals. nutritious meals. in order to get a meal on the in order to get a meal on the table a lot has to happen. table a lot has to happen. getting all that support means getting all that support means the whole community is involved the whole community is involved and engaged in this mission. and engaged in this mission. >> i was minding my own business >> i was minding my own business here one day awhen this guy here one day awhen this guy shows up and says hey, explained shows up and says hey, explained what he did and where the food what he did and where the food goes that he is able to collect goes that he is able to collect up and it sounded like a good up and it sounded like a good thing to do to get involved in. thing to do to get involved in.
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we have a whole bunch of we have a whole bunch of different greens, collard and different greens, collard and broccoli. broccoli. i can give you some of that,. i can give you some of that,. >> whatever you can spare is >> whatever you can spare is great. great. >> whenever you're recovering >> whenever you're recovering food it's important to be food it's important to be reliable and dependable. reliable and dependable. because when the farmers set because when the farmers set aside food for you if you're not aside food for you if you're not there then they have a problem. there then they have a problem. >> you have a great >> you have a great thanksgiving. thanksgiving. >> you too. >> you too. >> we'll see you next time, >> we'll see you next time, thanks a lot. thanks a lot. >> donating some apples because >> donating some apples because people who pay full price for people who pay full price for their food, they want their food their food, they want their food really pretty. really pretty. it's little black spots around it's little black spots around the apple so they tend to not the apple so they tend to not get put into a shopper's bag. get put into a shopper's bag. >> great donation today. >> great donation today. probably a little bit more than probably a little bit more than we would normally have. we would normally have. >> our volunteers today are >> our volunteers today are primarily students from central primarily students from central methodist methodist university in university in missouri. missouri. >> from where i come from, food >> from where i come from, food is like you have to finish the
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is like you have to finish the food that's on your plate and food that's on your plate and everything. everything. so i used to work in the cafe. so i used to work in the cafe. when i worked in the-room i saw when i worked in the-room i saw food thrown away it was really, food thrown away it was really, really shocking for me. really shocking for me. >> a couple of boxes of really >> a couple of boxes of really nice broccoli out there. nice broccoli out there. >> we are >> we are addressing food addressing food insecurity. insecurity. these folks would not know where these folks would not know where their next meal is coming from. their next meal is coming from. >> it is really fun. >> it is really fun. i have a culinary grouped and i have a culinary grouped and then also seeing all this food then also seeing all this food used that would otherwise have used that would otherwise have been wasted. been wasted. the point is food recovery with the point is food recovery with food wasted. food wasted. there are so there are so many hungry people many hungry people in the city. in the city. >> thank you for the food here. >> thank you for the food here. >> i don't know exactly when >> i don't know exactly when i'll be eating. i'll be eating. you know, like hit and miss. you know, like hit and miss. i might go out, get something to i might go out, get something to eat because i am working. eat because i am working. i have to take it day by day. i have to take it day by day. i'm just blessed to be eating i'm just blessed to be eating this now i know that. this now i know that.
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>> and now snap hot of stories >> and now snap hot of stories making headlines on america making headlines on america tonight. tonight. there's another delay to the there's another delay to the country's new health care law country's new health care law this time to online health this time to online health insurance for small businesses. insurance for small businesses. employers will not be able to employers will not be able to buy coverage for their workers buy coverage for their workers until next year. until next year. the health site, healthcare.gov the health site, healthcare.gov has been plagued with a number has been plagued with a number of glitches since its of glitches since its launch. launch. sylvio sylvio
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bairl birls coin bairl birls coin berlusconi could face berlusconi could face arrest. arrest. flight staff.com has said flight staff.com has said cancelled. cancelled. if you are still trying to get if you are still trying to get there, bigger problem is delays there, bigger problem is delays more than 5,000 flights more than 5,000 flights nationwide. nationwide. winter storm causing many winter storm causing many problems on the air and on the problems on the air and on the ground for many holiday ground for many holiday travelers travelers . . kevin corriveau, what's going to kevin corriveau, what's going to happen for the rest of the happen for the rest of the night. night. >> well, joie, believe it or >> well, joie, believe it or not, we've seen some great not, we've seen some great improvement in the last few improvement in the last few hours. hours. he be compassing much of the he be compassing much of the eastern seaboard, as the storm eastern seaboard, as the storm moves to the north it moves moves to the north it moves faster as well. faster as well. what we are seeing is new york what we are seeing is new york has cleared out and boston is has cleared out and boston is just about to clear out as well. just about to clear out as well. so some good news there. so some good news there. in terms of delays, well, things in terms of delays, well, things have really improved.
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have really improved. the only problems that we're the only problems that we're having here across the region is having here across the region is la quawla guardia and la quawla guardia and jfk. jfk. the bridge visibility has the bridge visibility has cleared up. cleared up. the traffic across the area is the traffic across the area is moving quite nicely across the moving quite nicely across the area, good news there. area, good news there. there's still about 7700 flights there's still about 7700 flights that are in the air. that are in the air. so lot of people are still so lot of people are still trying to get home. trying to get home. now the problem tonight is going now the problem tonight is going to be still, we have some snow to be still, we have some snow to deal with. to deal with. some people that are traveling some people that are traveling on the on the roads, especially roads, especially northern new york, pennsylvania northern new york, pennsylvania that left work later this that left work later this evening, they're going to be evening, they're going to be dealing with the snow across the dealing with the snow across the region, so unfortunately that is region, so unfortunately that is still a major problem. still a major problem. >> what about tomorrow then >> what about tomorrow then kevin? kevin? >> joie, when this storm is >> joie, when this storm is gone, what people will be gone, what people will be dealing with believe it or not dealing with believe it or not are those extremely cold are those extremely cold temperatures that are going to temperatures that are going to be below freezing all the way to be below freezing all the way to texas. texas. houston, 23°, atlanta 23, houston, 23°, atlanta 23, believe it or not new york is
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believe it or not new york is going to be warmer than places going to be warmer than places in the south. in the south. things will be warming up things will be warming up nicely, nicely, new york 34°. new york 34°. partly cloudy conditions for partly cloudy conditions for motte of the country. motte of the country. unfortunately, very windy unfortunately, very windy conditions up here towards the conditions up here towards the northeast. northeast. that's going to be the morning that's going to be the morning and unfortunately that will be a and unfortunately that will be a problem for the macy's day problem for the macy's day parade. parade. >> meteorology kevin >> meteorology kevin corriveau, corriveau, thanks joining us from new york. thanks joining us from new york. on the relations front now, on the relations front now, surprising moves by both first surprising moves by both first afghanistan, where the united afghanistan, where the united states is trying to wind down states is trying to wind down its mission. its mission. and where once warm relationship and where once warm relationship now seems to be throwing up a now seems to be throwing up a frosty frosty good-bye. good-bye. afghan president hamid afghan president hamid karzai karzai has refused to sign a has refused to sign a bilateral bilateral security agreement. security agreement. instead karzai has offered some instead karzai has offered some
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new conditions. new conditions. a delay will force the united a delay will force the united states no choice but to draw states no choice but to draw down its down its forces unilaterally. forces unilaterally. >> if the agreement isn't >> if the agreement isn't signed, what i said to the signed, what i said to the president, we would have no president, we would have no choice, we would be compelled by choice, we would be compelled by necessity, to begin to plan for necessity, to begin to plan for the prospect that we will not be the prospect that we will not be able to keep our troops here, able to keep our troops here, they will not be invited because they will not be invited because the bsa will not be signed. the bsa will not be signed. and the nature of our and the nature of our partnership and the investments partnership and the investments we have made will be more we have made will be more difficult to sustain. difficult to sustain. >> joining us in studio is >> joining us in studio is sara sara chase from the chase from the carnegie carnegie institute. institute. >> his brother was a >> his brother was a presidential candidate just presidential candidate just after the fall of the taliban. after the fall of the taliban. i met karzai on several i met karzai on several
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occasions. occasions. >> he became somewhat of a >> he became somewhat of a surprise to the united states. surprise to the united states. >> to be quite honest, i didn't >> to be quite honest, i didn't think the united states was think the united states was focusing much on afghanistan focusing much on afghanistan much at all until about 2009. much at all until about 2009. so there was a kind so there was a kind of of maintenance maintenance type of situation, type of situation, where president bush would talk where president bush would talk to carr disien one on to carr disien one on one-caw one-caw karzai one on one in a video karzai one on one in a video conference. conference. but national security at that but national security at that time was really focused on iraq. time was really focused on iraq. >> what do you see in what he's >> what do you see in what he's doing now it seems in some sense doing now it seems in some sense rebellious, difficult rebellious, difficult and trance and trance gent. gent. >> there was a shift in u.s. >> there was a shift in u.s. attitude towards president attitude towards president karzai when the obama karzai when the obama administration came to power, administration came to power, when there was some focus on when there was some focus on afghanistan for its own sake and afghanistan for its own sake and
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a realization that the way a realization that the way the the afghan president treated its on afghan president treated its on public how this mission went public how this mission went forward. forward. an increasing realization that an increasing realization that president karzai was at the head president karzai was at the head of a government that was if of a government that was if nothing else nothing else abusism corrupt. abusism corrupt. and there was an effort to try and there was an effort to try to curb this is in some way or to curb this is in some way or make it clear to president make it clear to president karzai that this really wasn't karzai that this really wasn't working. working. and he reacted basically by and he reacted basically by throwing temper throwing temper tantrums. tantrums. and essentially when he would and essentially when he would throw a temper tab trum the u.s. throw a temper tab trum the u.s. would fold -- tantrum the u.s. would fold -- tantrum the u.s. would fold. would fold. yes, he is being rebellious if yes, he is being rebellious if you want to use that word, you want to use that word, although no one is his superior although no one is his superior in the u.s. government. in the u.s. government. but in a funny way, u.s. policy but in a funny way, u.s. policy has actually conditioned him to has actually conditioned him to act this way. act this way. >> to be this way. >> to be this way. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> is there going to be an >> is there going to be an agreement? agreement? is he going to captain lat capi?
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is he going to captain lat capi? what happens after 2013? what happens after 2013? >> i think iraq is an >> i think iraq is an interesting example where a deal interesting example where a deal was in negotiation, exact number was in negotiation, exact number of u.s. troops was going to stay of u.s. troops was going to stay was known. was known. and at the last moment that and at the last moment that agreement was never finalized. agreement was never finalized. and so, it was quite and so, it was quite interesting, to see how quickly interesting, to see how quickly the united states drew down to the united states drew down to zero, meaning, from a -- moving zero, meaning, from a -- moving from a situation where it was from a situation where it was going to be i think 10,000 going to be i think 10,000 troops, when that didn't troops, when that didn't happen, happen, you know, u.s. you know, u.s. troops and troops and materiale moved out quickly materiale moved out quickly quickly. quickly. >> and moved to strife after >> and moved to strife after that. that. which is the point to karzai. which is the point to karzai. >> i think karzai doubtless >> i think karzai doubtless presumes that once again he is presumes that once again he is being consolidated but the words being consolidated but the words are empty and the reward will are empty and the reward will come as it has in the come as it has in the past. past.
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>> sarah chase from the carnegie >> sarah chase from the carnegie endowment. endowment. thanks for being here. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks for having me. we turn to another we turn to another international partner that international partner that hasn't proved to be this open hasn't proved to be this open to to international sanctions and international sanctions and that's iran. that's iran. hassan rouhani is hassan rouhani is underscoring underscoring his ambition to the u.s. with a his ambition to the u.s. with a new tone and an unexpected bit new tone and an unexpected bit of online marketing. of online marketing. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the video features iranian >> the video features iranian artists artists reciting reciting reciting reciting parts of hassan parts of hassan rouhani's inaugural rouhani's inaugural speech. speech.
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it bears some relationship to it bears some relationship to this. this. >> blazing trail yes we can yes >> blazing trail yes we can yes we can ♪ we can ♪ >> yes they did. >> yes they did. the star the star studded video went studded video went viral during the 2008 u.s. viral during the 2008 u.s. presidential campaign. presidential campaign. both these men came into office both these men came into office promising change. promising change. how has hassan rouhani lived up how has hassan rouhani lived up to those promises? to those promises? in his first 100 days of office? in his first 100 days of office? hamiir hamiir roujani, how do you see roujani, how do you see it? it? >> i think it's for domestic >> i think it's for domestic consumption for his base. consumption for his base. similar to president obama's similar to president obama's base in 2008. base in 2008. >> it's awfully much like >> it's awfully much like it it isn't it? isn't it? >> yes. >> yes. eight years of ahmadinejad was a eight years of ahmadinejad was a very dark need for iran and it very dark need for iran and it was a yearning to move past was a yearning to move past that that bombast. bombast.
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and that video speaks to that. and that video speaks to that. >> what is he telling his base? >> what is he telling his base? >> he says i'm moving the >> he says i'm moving the needle. needle. he is giving them hope. he is giving them hope. obama? obama? >> i don't think he would say >> i don't think he would say that. that. obviously the similarities are obviously the similarities are stunning, but what he is trying stunning, but what he is trying to tell them i think is you to tell them i think is you should have hope, optimism, a should have hope, optimism, a new day is coming. new day is coming. >> something the obama >> something the obama administration was also administration was also offering. offering. >> precisely. >> precisely. >> is that popular, sit going to >> is that popular, sit going to resonate? resonate? >> very much so. >> very much so. president obama is very popular president obama is very popular in iran, when he came into in iran, when he came into office he said he was going to office he said he was going to extend the extend the hand hand change. change. friendship, i think that given friendship, i think that given where president rouhani is with where president rouhani is with his base, having outreached to his base, having outreached to the united states is the right the united states is the right way to move forward. way to move forward. >> he certainly came into >> he certainly came into office, rouhani, with a lot of office, rouhani, with a lot of
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pressure on him for economic pressure on him for economic change. change. is that really going to start to is that really going to start to come to fruition here, we're come to fruition here, we're talking about the nuclear talking about the nuclear agreement and the potential for agreement and the potential for at least some of the sanction at least some of the sanction pressure to be lifted? pressure to be lifted? >> well, you can't get economic >> well, you can't get economic change without the change without the sanctions sanctions being removed. being removed. he's coming with really three he's coming with really three things. things. number 1, iran is undergoing number 1, iran is undergoing hyperinflation. hyperinflation. cost of living has gone up. cost of living has gone up. the cost of the currency has the cost of the currency has devalued tremendously. devalued tremendously. all this happened was because of all this happened was because of the sanctions. the sanctions. the only thing you can get these the only thing you can get these turned around is to negotiate on turned around is to negotiate on the nuclear issue, thereby the nuclear issue, thereby having some sanctions removed having some sanctions removed and give ventilation theory in and give ventilation theory in the economy. the economy. >> we're talking about a small >> we're talking about a small portion of the sanction money portion of the sanction money being released, obviously being released, obviously there's still a there's still a lot -- we're lot -- we're only talking about a six month only talking about a six month deal. deal. >> you've got to start >> you've got to start somewhere. somewhere. there's been a laundry list of there's been a laundry list of issues for 34 years.
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issues for 34 years. but the most pressing is the but the most pressing is the nuclear issue. nuclear issue. if he can solve that, he can if he can solve that, he can move on to other issues. move on to other issues. the iranian status in the world the iranian status in the world will start to improve and if will start to improve and if certain sanctions are lifted, certain sanctions are lifted, they can have access to barning they can have access to barning and around the world, maybe oil and around the world, maybe oil revenue. revenue. >> you would see optimism that >> you would see optimism that some progress has been made, some progress has been made, some movement on the needle? some movement on the needle? >> some >> some progress. progress. the twitter and facebook sphere the twitter and facebook sphere of iran went ballistic. of iran went ballistic. viral. viral. when the when the iranian negotiators iranian negotiators came back from geneva da, they came back from geneva da, they were greeted were greeted warmly, signs in warmly, signs in farsi, saying i love farsi, saying i love you. you. very hopeful type. very hopeful type. >> this is optics again, >> this is optics again, underscoring that point. underscoring that point. at the end of the day, it is at the end of the day, it is not not hassan rouhani call alone. hassan rouhani call alone.
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he does very supreme leader. he does very supreme leader. >> absolutely, supreme leader's >> absolutely, supreme leader's word is time. word is time. however, the supreme leader however, the supreme leader seems to be reacceptive to the seems to be reacceptive to the direction rouhani is going. direction rouhani is going. ahmadinejad cut the similar deal ahmadinejad cut the similar deal years ago, when hes years ago, when hes negotiator negotiator the constituency base undercut the constituency base undercut him. him. the supreme the supreme leader. leader. so rouhani is able to get the so rouhani is able to get the buy-in of the different buy-in of the different constituencies in iran to make constituencies in iran to make this deal possible. this deal possible. >> so he's showing a lot of >> so he's showing a lot of strength, even with optics and strength, even with optics and video, he is showing a lot of video, he is showing a lot of strength showing that the leader strength showing that the leader is behind him? is behind him? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. i think that video is just to i think that video is just to show his base that things are show his base that things are changing, a new day is coming. changing, a new day is coming. the leader has said a number of the leader has said a number of times that he is for diplomacy. times that he is for diplomacy. he came out at a speech with he came out at a speech with the the revolutionary guard, saying he's revolutionary guard, saying he's for heroic flexibility. for heroic flexibility. he's come out again saying to he's come out again saying to
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the very hard line critics of the very hard line critics of rouhani that it's not time to rouhani that it's not time to negotiate, very difficult time negotiate, very difficult time ahead, he has given them the ahead, he has given them the agree light right now to proceed agree light right now to proceed effective. effective. >> there are still suspicions >> there are still suspicions out there. out there. we appreciate you being with us we appreciate you being with us to talk about all this, here in to talk about all this, here in the studio. the studio. after the break, a after the break, a thanksgiving voyage and one thanksgiving voyage and one town's effort to put the town's effort to put the mayflower of all things back on mayflower of all things back on the map. the map.
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determining using some sort of determining using some sort of subjective interpretation of subjective interpretation of their policy as to whether or their policy as to whether or not your particular report was not your particular report was actually abusive, because if it actually abusive, because if it doesn't contain language that doesn't contain language that specifically threatens you specifically threatens you directly or is targeted towards directly or is targeted towards you specifically, they may not you specifically, they may not consider it abuse. consider it abuse. they may consider it offensive. they may consider it offensive. and in that case they just and in that case they just recommend that you block that recommend that you block that person. person. >> i don't want to minimise >> i don't want to minimise this, because i mean, there's this, because i mean, there's some really horrible things that some really horrible things that are on are on line, and it's not - it's line, and it's not - it's not just twitter, what has not just twitter, what has happened through social media happened through social media and the anonymity of the net is and the anonymity of the net is that you see websites, that you see websites, hate-filled websites hate-filled websites targetting targetting all sorts of groups, popping up. all sorts of groups, popping up. there has been a huge number of there has been a huge number of those that exist as well.
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those that exist as well. the stream is uniquely the stream is uniquely interactive television. interactive television. in fact, we depend on you, your in fact, we depend on you, your ideas, your concerns. ideas, your concerns. >> all these folks are making a >> all these folks are making a whole lot of money. whole lot of money. >> you are one of the voices of >> you are one of the voices of this show. this show. >> i think you've offended >> i think you've offended everyone with that kathy. everyone with that kathy. >> hold on, there's some room to >> hold on, there's some room to offend people, i'm here. offend people, i'm here. >> we have a right to know >> we have a right to know what's in our food and monsanto what's in our food and monsanto do not have the right to hide it do not have the right to hide it from us. from us. >> so join the conversation and >> so join the conversation and make it your own. make it your own. >> watch the stream. >> watch the stream. >> and join the conversation >> and join the conversation online @ajamstream. online @ajamstream.
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>> thanks o >> thanks o giving of course we giving of course we think about the origination of think about the origination of this nation. this nation. the mayflower that brought the the mayflower that brought the pilgrims to america will be pilgrims to america will be remembered as the greatest remembered as the greatest adventures in history. adventures in history. now centuries ago counting on now centuries ago counting on the history to help out its the history to help out its economy. economy. as carl bostick tells as carl bostick tells us, the us, the 400th anniversary of that 400th anniversary of that voyage. voyage. >> shipping is the story, and >> shipping is the story, and with the struggling economy, with the struggling economy, herrage is turning oits herrage is turning oits maritime maritime history to help. history to help. >> we're building a >> we're building a boat. boat. >> and not just any boat. >> and not just any boat. >> it's the >> it's the mayflower. mayflower. >> the story of the mayflower >> the story of the mayflower begins here in begins here in
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the late the late 1600. 1600. build in this area. build in this area. >> there were not much less than >> there were not much less than 26 mayflowers. 26 mayflowers. mayflower was in the port books, mayflower was in the port books, the fact that it stated that it the fact that it stated that it was of harrage, the home port was of harrage, the home port was was harrage. harrage. >> christopher jones the captain >> christopher jones the captain of the mayflower actually lived of the mayflower actually lived in a house that we're standing in a house that we're standing in front of in front of now. now. >> when i see all these trees >> when i see all these trees here, what did we expect to here, what did we expect to happen? happen? >> there's about 150 trees in >> there's about 150 trees in here weighing about 175 tons. here weighing about 175 tons. it's about a third to a half of it's about a third to a half of what we need to build a ship. what we need to build a ship. >> the mayflower projects a job >> the mayflower projects a job creation program will also build creation program will also build an exact replica of the ship in an exact replica of the ship in time of the 400th anniversary time of the 400th anniversary of the pilgrims 1620 voyage to of the pilgrims 1620 voyage to america. america. >> the may >> the may
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flowe flowe flower actually flower actually started its voyage -- started its voyage -- >> as the captain there was >> as the captain there was simply more trading here for the simply more trading here for the mayflower as a cash go ship. mayflower as a cash go ship. in timber, wool, textiles even in timber, wool, textiles even wine. wine. and they accepted a new cargo, and they accepted a new cargo, at the time they were called at the time they were called planters and adventurers who planters and adventurers who wanted to go to the new world. wanted to go to the new world. >> one of the >> one of the christopher christopher jones jones favorite pubz. favorite pubz. >> wills from who? >> wills from who? >> people from the >> people from the mayflower. mayflower. give and bequeath to my daughter give and bequeath to my daughter mary mary sherwood, the least of sherwood, the least of my my hoop build hoop build rings. rings. >> people in cramped living >> people in cramped living conditions. conditions. people lived and died there, people lived and died there, there was a baby born on that there was a baby born on that voyage. voyage. >> when christopher jones >> when christopher jones returned, he may have been returned, he may have been
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disappointed open that voyage. disappointed open that voyage. they were supposed to land near they were supposed to land near virginia. virginia. he came back with no cargo at he came back with no cargo at all, many of his crew had died all, many of his crew had died along the way and his own ship along the way and his own ship mayflower was nearly in ruins, mayflower was nearly in ruins, no value at all and ready to be no value at all and ready to be scrapped. scrapped. >> this was given to the church >> this was given to the church in the year 1620. in the year 1620. the same year that the mayflower the same year that the mayflower sailed sailed . . i often wonder whether i often wonder whether christopher jones himself would christopher jones himself would have received communion from have received communion from this chalice as he worshipped this chalice as he worshipped from st. from st. mary's. mary's. >> jones died the year after the >> jones died the year after the voyage. voyage. he was buried at st. mary's. he was buried at st. mary's. >> we don't know where >> we don't know where christopher jones is buried christopher jones is buried because they didn't know then because they didn't know then the significance of that voyage the significance of that voyage he made with the he made with the pilgrims. pilgrims.
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>> jones died thinking it >> jones died thinking it was was a a significant misadventure not significant misadventure not knowing it knowing it would be turned out would be turned out to to be be a significant adventure. a significant adventure. >> a mouthful of tradition goes >> a mouthful of tradition goes missing, we're hot on the trail missing, we're hot on the trail of of the new york knish crisis. the new york knish crisis.
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>> and now, a techknow minute... >> and now, a techknow minute...
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>> and finally from us tonight >> and finally from us tonight on this thanksgiving eve, this on this thanksgiving eve, this is another sort of food is another sort of food way. way. do you do you know the knish? know the knish? the jewish knish. the jewish knish. a name that can't begin to a name that can't begin to
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describe its full describe its full bodied sphwans bodied sphwans to the community. to the community. the knish has all scorlts of the knish has all scorlts of culinary passion, where america culinary passion, where america tonight's christophe putzel has tonight's christophe putzel has this food for thought. this food for thought. >> on september 24th when the >> on september 24th when the world's world's largest knish largest knish producer, producer, lost its key machine. lost its key machine. >> and it has created a shortage >> and it has created a shortage of this square fried version of of this square fried version of the potato the potato del del delicacy. delicacy. >> the local delicacy. >> the local delicacy. >> the knish problem is much >> the knish problem is much greater than that. greater than that. >> once ordered by the dozen and >> once ordered by the dozen and sold in street sold in street carts, carts, delis delis around the country. around the country. is now -- is now -- >> do you have any knish? >> do you have any knish? do you have any knish? do you have any knish? no knish? no knish?
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only hot dogs. only hot dogs. >> to be honor is, i've never >> to be honor is, i've never even eaten a knish. even eaten a knish. so i've enlisted lawsh ah sil so i've enlisted lawsh ah sil ver to help me understand what ver to help me understand what people are missing. people are missing. >> when you say knish, people >> when you say knish, people think of period of think of period of time, an time, an saysors, people who came to the saysors, people who came to the lower east side to make a lower east side to make a living. living. the knish has all that wrapped the knish has all that wrapped up into up into it. it. plus it's really good. plus it's really good. >> what does it mean to you? >> what does it mean to you? >> i'm a native new yorker and >> i'm a native new yorker and born to native new yorkers and born to native new yorkers and grandparents from eastern grandparents from eastern europe. europe. growing up i felt the knish growing up i felt the knish encapsulated our history. encapsulated our history. definitely something linked to a definitely something linked to a jewish past. jewish past. >> a knish consists of a >> a knish consists of a filling, there was a factory filling, there was a factory fire that caused the national fire that caused the national shortage. shortage. >> when the fire occurred on >> when the fire occurred on september september 24th, the machinery 24th, the machinery that was responsible for making
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that was responsible for making the square knish was destroyed. the square knish was destroyed. when the firefighters came from when the firefighters came from they absolutely did what they they absolutely did what they had to do but the water damage had to do but the water damage that the machine sustained that the machine sustained rendered the machine inoperable rendered the machine inoperable and since that time we have not and since that time we have not been able to manufacture the been able to manufacture the square square knishes. knishes. >> this is stacy >> this is stacy ziskin. ziskin. her her family have cornered the family have cornered the market on square market on square knishes for knishes for ever. ever. >> when the outcry for when >> when the outcry for when they're going to be they're going to be back. back. >> customers are going to >> customers are going to have have to go for round knishes. to go for round knishes. >> i grew up as a round person. >> i grew up as a round person. >> and you >> and you converted? converted? >> well, i'd say i'm equally >> well, i'd say i'm equally interested in both. interested in both. >> you didn't grow up eating the >> you didn't grow up eating the square ones? square ones? >> the great square versus round >> the great square versus round knish knish debate. debate.
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deep fried, usually processed. deep fried, usually processed. in the other, the hand in the other, the hand baked, baked, rival, the round rival, the round knish. knish. >> as a kid, they came in little >> as a kid, they came in little wax bags and you would buy them wax bags and you would buy them on the beach and that's all they on the beach and that's all they were good were good for. for. >> i visited lower east side, a >> i visited lower east side, a knish shop selling round knishes knish shop selling round knishes for more than a century. for more than a century. a square fried knish is simply a square fried knish is simply not a true knish. not a true knish. >> a knish is a yiddish word, >> a knish is a yiddish word, german, means dumpling. german, means dumpling. a knish must be round and baked. a knish must be round and baked. if you haven't had this knish if you haven't had this knish you really haven't had a knish. you really haven't had a knish. >> all right, about to bake up >> all right, about to bake up our knishes. our knishes. >> it wasn't long before ellen >> it wasn't long before ellen put me to put me to work, the thousand work, the thousand knishes that she puts out every knishes that she puts out every day. day.
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>> what you see here will be >> what you see here will be nice shape nice shape soon. soon. >> how did i >> how did i do? do? >> okay, last little >> okay, last little piece. piece. dell caste. dell caste. delicacy. delicacy. -- -- delicacy. delicacy. >> when are you going to give >> when are you going to give people back their knishes? people back their knishes? >> we think we'll be able to do >> we think we'll be able to do that in like the last week in that in like the last week in november and hopefully worst november and hopefully worst case scenario the first week in case scenario the first week in december. december. which again does coincide with which again does coincide with hanukkah this year. hanukkah this year. that's our hope. that's our hope. >> i never was able to taste a >> i never was able to taste a square knish but i did devour square knish but i did devour many round ones and with it a many round ones and with it a piece of new york and jewish piece of new york and jewish history. history. >> so exciting to be rear >> so exciting to be rear here -- here right on here -- here right on forsythe forsythe street. street. i think it's linked to new york i think it's linked to new york identity, people of all identity, people of all backgrounds, all backgrounds, all
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clamoring for clamoring for knishes and something that opens knishes and something that opens up worlds when you eat it. up worlds when you eat it. >> that's christophe putzel >> that's christophe putzel reporting and eating and reporting and eating and enjoying it. enjoying it. we understand. we understand. he's certainly going to be out he's certainly going to be out enjoying that over the weekend enjoying that over the weekend this holiday weekend in new york this holiday weekend in new york city, looking forward to all the city, looking forward to all the tasty treats for that and for tasty treats for that and for hanukkah as well. hanukkah as well. that's it for us on america that's it for us on america tonight. tonight. please remember ne -- if you wod please remember ne -- if you wod like to like to comment on anything comment on anything on on our program, tell us what you'd our program, tell us what you'd like to see in our nightly like to see in our nightly current affairs program. current affairs program. if you would like to give us if you would like to give us knish recipes, you can join knish recipes, you can join us us on twitter or facebook. on twitter or facebook. we'll have more of america we'll have more of america tonight, tomorrow. tonight, tomorrow.
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