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>> chilling threats against jews in ukraine as vladimir putin refers to the eastern part of the country as the new russia. >> will health care drag down democrats in the midterm elections. why corporations could be buying your ability to soothe them with as little as a $0.50 coupon. what are the worst jobs in the
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country. i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this". here is more on what is ahead. >> we fully expect the russians to demonstrate their seriousness. >> russia is a gas station mass car aiding as a country - i apologise. it's a mafia-run gas station. >> few people would say the immigration system is working. >> it's frustrating to watch obama's empty prime minister sis. >> if you can get over the border and stay long enough, someone will give you a pass. >> the number of americans who has signed up has grown to 8 million. it will not solve all the problems, there's work to do. >> high stakes diplomatic efforts to resolve the crisis in ukraine began. the conflict seems to be escalating. three pro-rush sequence were
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killed when they tried to storm a military base in ukraine. representatives of russia, ukraine, the u.s. and european union met. they condemned extremism, racism, and anti-semitism. russians in the city of donetsk were told they have to register their groups. secretary of state john kerry had this to say. >> in year 2014, after all the miles travelled and the journey of history, this is not just intolerable, it's grotesque. >> vladimir putin told a tv audience in russia that it had the right to use force in eastern ukraine, which he called part of new russia. at the white house president obama said the u.s. was preparing new measures if the
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geneva agreement failed. >> russia's hand is in the disruptions and chaos that we have been seeing in southern-eastern ukraine. but, there is an opportunity for russia to take a different approach. meantime we are going to prepare additional responses should russia fail to take a different course. >> for more i'm joined from washington dc by ambassador william courtney, serving for kazakhstan and georgia. good to see you. the agreement calls for amnesty for protesters, for people to disarm and calls for other efforts to end the violence. do you think it will help to de-escalate the situation in ukraine? >> it's possible that it will help de-escalate. a lot depends on the russian military to comply with the
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agreement. it calls for all sides not to use violence, but it calls for disarming illegal formations. vladimir putin, in his press conference this morning, implied that russia was not connected to the illegal formations. if that's the case, then the kiev authorities are prevented from using violence, if you will, to crack down on illegal formations in their own countries. a lot depends on how it is implemented. >> he did admit that russian troops were involved in what happened in ukraine. do you think there's the danger, as some said, that this agreement will buy time for vladimir putin to continue to destabilize eastern ukraine. >> he admitted that the russian troops had been involved in crimea, and the troops involved in eastern ukraine are dressed the same way, looking the same way. it hasn't taken responsibility for them. in some respects it's an opportunity for russia to buy
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time. russia overextended itself, overreached. russia needs to find a way to deal with this. what they have done is caused n.a.t.o. to talk about moving forces eastwards. it caused capital flight from russia. projections of economic decline in russia, and soon they'll realise that the kremlin lied to them about the way russians were treated in ukraine, they were never under threat. >> more money has flown out of russia this year than last week. as they were negotiating in geneva, vladimir putin said russia's parliament had given him authority to send troops into ukraine. the question is: >> it sounds like he is talking
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about planting a russian flag in a large area. >> it does sound that way. but it's hard to tell from kremlin propaganda, in soviet times and since then. hard to tell whether tough propaganda actually refers to an action that is going to be tougher, or whether it's a mass car aid for weakness. joseph stalin used propaganda to hide weakness. we really have to judge them by actions rather than propaganda. >> president obama still said u.s. so not planning military moves in ukraine. >> i thought i made it clear that military options are not on the take in ukraine. this is not a situation amenable to a clear military solution. >> and meantime defense secretary chuck hagel offered
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what sounded more like camping supplies to boost the ukraine army. >> medical supplying, helmets, sleeping mats and water purification units, shelters, hand generators and pumps for the state guard service. >> what kind of message does that send to vladimir putin? >> it's a pretty weak response by the west. it's not just the united states, it's europe as well. the ukrainians need anti-aircraft weapons, not western, but are planning on the international market, a former soviet market. they need those weapons. if the u.s. is not providing lethal arms, something that can help the troops, like night vasion goggles.
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>> one of the weapons was a militant group ordering jews in donetsk to register. the irony is the government has been accused of being full of neo-nazis. >> as you know, there's some issue now about the providence of that anti-semitic activity, whether it was actually carried out by russian illegal formations or others. but it certainly is part of, in some respects, increasing zenno phobic tenancies, and that, in the last couple of years has grown, so it makes it suspicious that maybe the russian authorities were behind this. >> and president vladimir putin, in this long tv conversation took this clearly staged call from n.s.a. leaker edward
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snowden. >> does russia intercept store or analyse in any way the communications of millions of individuals? and do you believe that simply increasing the effectiveness of intelligence or law enforcement investigations can justify a place in societies, rather than subjects under surveillance? >> vladimir putin jokingly responded to edward snowden as one former agent to another, that russia's intelligence efforts are not as massive as america, and they are strictly regulated by law. in the world of messages going back and forth, what do you think vladimir putin is telling president obama. >> i think vladimir putin made a terrible make. in the west there was debate, in america, europe, about whether vladimir putin - edward snowden was a whistleblower or a traitor. his appearance on the press conference caused a lot of people in the international community to say "gee, maybe he's more of a traitoron a
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whistleblower" it unminds the credibility of the things edward snowden was getting done. >> so many issues, good to have you with us. thanks. >> thank you. >> switching topics to immigration. immigration activists condemned president obama as the deporter in chief. new numbers from the justice department showed fewer deportation cases are being brought to the courts, and as a result of court proceedings, deportations dropped 43% in the past five years. this tells part of the stories, because other departations soared. new department of homeland security jay johnson is preparing actioning that could further reduce deportations. president obama said there was only so much the white house could do alone to reform immigration. >> i think the system we have right now it broken.
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i'm not alone in that opinion. the only way to truly fix it is through congressional action. we have tried to take as many administrative steps that we could. we'll see if there's more we can do. >> i'm joined by david leopold, former president of the lawyers association, and a reform advocate. good to see you. you heard the president saying there's only so much that he could do, congress need to take action. congressman of colorado, a democrat, told the washington "examiner", that there are fixes in the next few weeks, and broader policy changes next year. what do you think the white house will do without having congress on board? >> the president is right. what he's talking about is a permanent fix, and the only people that can give the united states a permanent f to the broken immigration system is congress, and now that would be
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the republican-controlled house. that is a point well taken. there's plenty of things that can be done while we wait for congress to do its job. they can expand the deferred action program, the program that keeps the dreamers from being deported. it can be expanded to the parents and people who might qualify, undocumented people who would qualify under the various proposals for imagreeings reform that we have seen in congress. >> doesn't that risk a hue and cry that might delay immigration reform further. >> that's the issue, if the white house were to move and use proceed executive authority. that would largely, i think, the
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calculation is kill immigration reform, any possibility of immigration reform. i think there is, for this year, and there is a legislative window, and i think that's correct, the white house is correct in calculating that there still is the possibility that the republicans in the house will move immigration reform. the republicans need immigration reform as much or more than the democrats. they are granded with the growing lat eenio vote, a formidable vote that spanked the presidential candidate, mitt romney in 2012 with 20% of the vote, going to them. 70 plus going to the president. they need to win back the growing latino vote. >> there few signs to move forward. you talk about the republicans not using it in an election year. they were in a gun-control
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situation. democrats were not pushing background checks. they were concerned about electoral politics. do you think there's chance an immigration reform will move forward. >> i'll go out on a limb and say yes. immigration reform is an issue that has, in the history of this country, gone forward in election years. the last immigration overhaul was in a midterm election year. i don't think it's impossible. it could happen now, after the republicans finish the prime rice. i think louis gueterrrius of illinois has set a deadline of july. once the primaries have finished, and there's no attack to the right, they could consider immigration reform. that makes sense. the other option or possibility, i should say is that they
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could - the house could bring up immigration reform in a lame duck session after the election. that may be another opportunity. the other thing to remember is that we do have a major crisis on the ground in the united states. people are - families are being torn apart, and people arrested and removed from the country. american families are being split up. mixed families. that has to stop. >> in that context you wrote that there is stone-cold: . >> yes >> explain why today's report about the number of deportation cases in courts dropping, does not many that total departations have -- deportations have found. >> the report that came out of the "new york times" talks about court deportations.
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that's one aspect of the machine. 70% - more than 70% of the removals, the deportations in the country are people that never see the inside of the court room. it's administrative, done by a low-level department of homeland security officer, at a border or airport checkpoint. these are people caught, and they find old order of removal from 10, 15 years ago, and those people are removed without seeing a judge. the other thing is how are they defining in their own - the department of homeland security, how are they defining border crosses. they seem to have a broad definition, which are not necessarily included in the numbers, the 43% drop that the "new york times" reported on. i think that we have to bear in mind that whale the -- while the courtroom deportations may be
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down... >> court deportations are down, others are up, dramatically. >> are both parties responsible for poisoning the issue. on thursday president obama released a statement calling for preform, saying it would boost the economy: >> but then house majority leader responded after the president called him, the white house calling it a happy pass over call, but cantor said: >> seems like a lot of blame to go around here. >> i find it curious that eric cantor would be complaining about the president attacking. putting that aside. look, i think that both parties share responsibility up until
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2012, nothing was done. after 2012, it was made clear that there was a platform of self-deportation. the republicans were falling over themselves, speaker john boehner, eric cantor and others, to pass immigration reform. they said it would be a priority in 2013. we had a senate bill, a year ago now, taken up, and a year ago passed bipartisan, republicans and democrats. so the president indicated that he would sign that type of measure. the house of representatives offered the american people nothing but lame pathetic excuses since last year. first it was the first call crisis which closed the government. then when the government reopened they couldn't put it on the legislative calendar. and now they claim they can't deal with immigration reform because they don't trust the president to enforce the law
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when immigration enforcement is at its highest levels in history. today, as we speak, it's the republicans who are largely responsible for the crisis, the immigration crisis continuing. it's them, the house of republicans that could stop it tomorrow by allowing a vote on a bill or a series of immigration bills. >> it's an important issue, david leopold, as usual, it's good to have you on the show. >> if you are interested in that, the second episode, "borderland" airs at 9:00 pm. friday, on "consider this," we talk to do participates involved in that powerful series. >> coming up, an obamacare milestone. 8 million registered. many think it's a prescription - not a prescription for
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democratic vingt ris -- victories in the midterm election. >> and a man relieves himself in a reservoir and wastes 38 million gal jonls of trig -- gallons of trig water. if a teen can do that in a major city, how protected are our waters. well it's official...
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>> seemingly confident that his health care law is working president obama announce the that 8 million americans have enrolled. proof that the law is working and obamacare is no longer a liability for democrats. >> i don't think we should apologise or be defensive about it. >> he tried to hammer home the message that obamacare is working. >> there are still no death panels, armageddon has not arrived. the debate over re-peeling the law is over. the affordable care act is here to stay. >> the president cited the latest support car showing premiums were increasing at a slower pace than expected. is this news enough to change public opinion, and are democrats ready to embrace the
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law before the midterm elections. conventional whiches dom -- wisdom says it's suicide for the democrats. >> insurance companies denied me health insurance because of a pre-existing condition. i have health insurance again. he fought the insurance companies so we no longer have to. >> for more we are joined from cleveland by jason johnson, an al jazeera contributor and professor. >> the dewait over rebeeling the law is over. the white house is going use fuzzy maths. studies show a third or the also of 8 million. as many as 2 million will not pay the premiums they need to be
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counted upon those that are fully enrolled. one thing we argue and there's too less for it to succeed. what do you think? >> coming the fall, it won't matter. what happens in midterms election is turn out and local issues. if you bounce around where the affordable care act is hurtful and harms people, it depends on the state. you have some that expand medicare. in virginia, they haven't. and georgia, people are running against it. it will break down how local voters see the issue. >> that is a good point. as the president touted the c.b.o. report forecasting lower than expected premiums and lower than expected costs. it will save $5 billion more than previously affected.
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it saves more. "the wall street journal" is saying that he shouldn't claim credit for the numbers, because the deaddress is because are -- decrease is because of fewer providers, and lower reimbursement rates. again, is this really all good news. it's 50/50. the fact of a matter is the law is so flawed, it was never going to be good news. the president promised to lower cost and increase coverage. it's not clear as to whether this will lower cost. the white house will talk about the $5 billion, $6 billion. many were saying, "my rates went up", and i think it could make quite a few years. of course, now, president obama is thinking about his counter fortunes and will talk about the
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good numbers, i don't think anyone really knows yet. >> we showed that mark, a democrat running in a red state, alaska, seems to be on board with obamacare, even though in the fall he stated it needed fixing. others are calling for a defence of the law. do you think we'll see a surge and find more defending the law in their campaigns that expected. >> i think they don't have much of a choice. at no point did he say affordable care act or the adds say obamacare. we'll have democrats defending the law, but not using the name of the law. we'll have democrats talking about the benefits of medicaid expansion, and trying to say that, but not aca. it will be a tightrope, and you'll see in virginia, and north carolina, more and more states are saying, you know what, we are going to have to
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pass a form of medicative expansion. >> democrats will get behind it, but they'll be nervous about the name, obamacare. >> let's see one who is not getting behind it. >> hundreds of thousands of people across the country losing their coverage. >> the administration is under pressure to act. >> what i said to the president is you told them they could keep it. >> senator landers says president barack obama need to stick to his word. >> this is a promise you made and should keep. >> it's a tough ad from an important senator. >> and she'll probably lose. you can't give people new and old coke and say it's the same thing. at the end of the day democrats are stuck with the affordable care act. if they say "i don't like it the bill and i fought against the president", that d is going to drag them down the the only option is to pretend not to know
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about the bill, or go out and support it. if you attack the affordable care act, you'll go down with it. a lot of people saw it in the midterm elections. the democrats that defended it tended to keep their jobs. >> americans oppose it, but say they are tired - the majority are tired of listening to these conversations. we'll see what it means in the electio elections. thank you. >> portland oregon is in the process of flushing away 38 million gallons of clean drinking water from its mt taibor water treatment facility. why? because a man decided an open reservoir was a good place to relieve himself. tests came back clean, but the city decided to dump the water, a decision leaving many wondering if it is necessary. in a time when the power grid and food supplies are examined
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for security concerns, the internet is raising questions about the safety of our nation's water supply. joining us is dr gary ginberg, a toxologist - you'll tell me what that is. >> toxiocologist. >> he serves on the u.s. environmental election agency, science advisory board and the co-author of a book "what's toxic and what's not." this is the second time in three years that the facility drained a reservoir of someone urinating. a couple was caught skinny dipping and nothing was done to increase security, or not enough. are there standards? >> don't forget, they did video the guy, so very have video surveillance, that is huge. you cannot guard every inch of every offense, but the can video
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it and have camera coverage, that is what they found in this case, whether he was a terrorist or someone with too much to drink, or a rebellious teenager. if it were something more serious than urine in, they could have tested the water and found that it was nothing more than urine. you can deft the water and find out before anyone else drinks it whether it was much of a problem. the other thing is typically they have a backup system, so they can bring in water from some place else, while they figure out what to do with 38 million gallons. because of the ick factor, they felt they needed to flush it. >> one person urinating in a reservoir doesn't really serve as a danger.
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there are dead bugs, animals, birds that die in the reservoirs, so isn't draining the reservoir a tremendous over-reaction? >> well, i think, again, it's a matter of perception, that the water companies really - their stock in change is delivering purity, and they don't want to lose the public's trust in that regard. this is a zero - it says we have a zero tolerance for anyone tapting our supply -- tainting our supply. i am sure they'll prosecute it, and putting out the message that they have a zero tolerance. the irony, of course, is that there are water supplies. perhaps not this one, from a reservoir in portland, but there are plenty of supplies in the country that are tainted by what we excrete. coming through sewerage treatment plants, getting into
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rivers. after a river is treated, you are getting the pharmaceuticals and - into the water supply that has been well documents. the story has not gone away. it made headline news in 2008 and 2009 that human excretions are a level where we talk about mood elevators. anti-seizure medications, birth control pill. traces of that. if the water supply is not sourced completely in a pure way, these things can get into the public drinking water. >> what about the issue of soars security. as you said, it's very difficult to protect the - some of them are huge, reservoirs. what, exactly can you do if a terrorist decided to attack,
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putting in heavy poisons. >> as a toxicologist we studied the issue from 9/11 forward, when we felt that we were under more threat, and looked around for what a terror. >> may be able to concoct or buy. because surface supplies are so large, they would need to back off a large pick-up truck, filling with cyanide or nerve poison, and dump it in. many times the chemicals are not all that stable. once they hit the water, sunlight, it's the video surveillance and it's the fencing, and, you know, the cars that you driving through that would catch and interject, especially the video surveillance, someone doing something major, a small amount, a cup. a bladderful of material is not
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going to threaten major arse. >> it there anything we should do across the country to protect the water. >> i think water suppliers pride themselves on doing everything they need doing. what the individual consumer can do is look at the ccr, which is a consumer confidence report. it tells you it's a once a year report card on what is in your drinking water, and any detections - you may want to look up on the internet or call your local health department and see is that supposed to be there. is my water supplier, you know, not doing as good a jobs as they can, and you want to make sure you don't have lead pipes because that is something that the water supply is not going to take care of. that may be the plumbing in your own home. a lot of important suggestions there. good to have you on the show.
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thank you. >> my pleasure. >> straight ahead - are corporations taking away your rights with coupons worth also than a dollar. do you have one of the best or worse jobs in america?
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>> could downloading a lucky charms coupon, entering a swooep skate or purchasing product from a website have consequences you never dreamed of. could it cost you the right to sue the country in the future. surprisingly the answer might be yes, and other countries have similar tactics. what kind of rights are we giving away to countries, are we being taken advantage of. for more, we joined by linda lip sin, c.e.o. of the association for justice and advocates on behalf of consumer rights. >> we have general mills products and there's a lot of outrage. many think it's a sneaky way of using small print to take away human rights. how big a deal is this? >> it's a huge deal. in my career it's the most important consumer issue we have worked on. people think they have rights. when something happens to their
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child - let's say they are poisoned by a product because of salmonella or some other issue, they find looking at the fine print, that they have to go into a rigged dispute mill and have no right to go to court, and cannot appeal, and the arbiter is decided upon which the company. it's completely unfair, unbalanced and need to be fixed. >> you join a suite stakes and buy a general mills fibre one par and your child has a peanut allergy and there's an issue, there's glass in a cake mix from the website, you are somehow limiting your rights to sue. >> you haven't agreed. it's like general mills decided your rights should be limited.
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by virtue of using the product or service, the fine print says you have eliminated your own right. it's unfair. let's say something happens in - something happens with the product, and you find out about it, you want to pursue your dispute in court and you find out you have to go to general mills arbiter that they pick, and your remedies are severely curtailed and limited. what is worse, it's been done in secret. so your neighbour can't find out that this - the product was dangerous, you can't even have the case heard in public. so you can problematic the public by other mishaps. it's incredibly unfair, and we are asking general mills to
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rethink their decision. if they do not rethink their decision, we are calling on congress to pass the arbitration fairness act, which would make arbitration voluntary and decided upon when the dispute happens, that would level the playing fooled. >> is this legal. atnt won a court case that went to the supreme court in 2011 that forbided customers were filing class action lawsuits because of their contracts, because it forced consumers to use arbitration. it may have opened the floodgates. the reality is there are so many different situations in which we are signing contracts of adhesion. everything from cell phones to cable to whenever we are on the internet and arrived to click on an agreement to move forward. how much of this is out there, and is it legal? >> it's absolutely pervasive.
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we think it's not legal. the supreme court differs, but in four cases they decided against the consumer. we'll have to get it corrected. congress is the right forward. congress has to deal with it. but general mills should honour their customers, withdrawing the fine print new lang wage, and allow their customers to pursue their disputes when they happen, in the forum of a court. >> general mills issued a statement to us after the "new york times" broke the story on thursday. it clarified some things, including whether liking a product on facebook is included. general mills said:
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>> they did say, that the policy applies if someone downloads coupons. the policy is limited. what you are giving up is that you can only sue them through arbitration: i have to laugh at - this must be the pr flak from general mills. this is - this is more gobble-di-gook. honestly, this - this - the lapping whim that they have in there in their website, is so ore broad that we believe that it could include all of the areas that you just outlined. and, yes, they'd have to go into arbitration, but it's forced arbitration. they haven't decided that's what the consumer decided, that's what the company decided for them. we think it's incredibly unfair and are calling upon general
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mills to withdraw the anti-consumer language. >> one of your colleagues told the "new york times". . person >> there realliar a whole bunch of -- really are a whole bunch of companies, anything from a theatre ticket to a parking tick, cell phone contracts and cable bills. >> nursing homes, mortgages. >> how many right are we giving away that we don't know that we are giving away? >> the one right that many countries insist upon is enshrined in the constitution, a right to a trial by jury. in all the examples that you just raised, in many aspects of our life, we are facing these contracts that we have to sign, and we are giving up our rights, and most consumers have no idea
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until something horrible happens, and they need to re - they need to redress their dispute. now, very few - these are - the instances that you talked about, ground glass in a product - that happens so rarely. when it happens, shouldn't the consumer be allowed to pursue their rights in court. why should they go to the arbiter selected by the company. it's un-american and so unfair. it's a rigged system. it's amazing how much of it is out there. >> thank you for joining us to call attention to this. >> coming up, one of the most influential writers in modern literature passes away. we look at the work of a legend. math leets rejoys, there's a huge future for you as we explain next in our data divene
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>> today's data dive runs down the best and worst jobs in america. you should have paid attention in maths class because mathematicians are ranked at the top of all jobs, making six figures on average. looked at environment, in fact, outlook and stress. stem careers - science, technology, engineering and maths - grabbed nine of the top 10 positions. tenured prove source grab nine figures. their jobs are the less stress.
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stat stirns and actaries were third and fourth. the bureau of labour and statistics says as baby boomers grow older, demand will increase. hearing aids will get better. lumberjacks was the worst job, made dangerous by heavy machinery and falling lumber. their medium salary is more than 24,000 a year. newspaper reporters have the worst job, there are fewer outlooks with fewer opportunities. they make $37,000. the total number of jobs is expected to drop by 13% by 2022. >> enlisted military personnel came in third. they have the most centresful work. the medium salary less than
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29,000. taxi drivers make $6,000 less. they have a higher rating. in fifth place, us. broadcasters. those that aspire to work in this field are expected to have fewer opportunities and face tough competition and a lot of stress. >> coming up, neil young wants to change the way you listen to music. we'll explain next.
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>> the book world has just lost a legend. an author passing away at the page of 87, a nobodiel author best known for "100 years of solitude", and others. he is largely credited as a pioneer of magicalness. let's bring in bill wyman. markus was a remarkable writer, what is his legacy? >> it's an enormous one. i don't know about you, but a lot of people of my generation go back to the issue of "vanity fair" in the early '80s, that had a remarkable tail "chronicle of a death foretold", that was a window. and everything after, the magic realism is a remarkable and loom
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nous style of writing. he was a spare writing, adding in odd character to the novels gave them a fulfilling body. i remember him saying when elephant flying is not interesting, but if you put 53 of them flying, that specificity creates a realism. >> we are looking at a video of him on his 87th birthday. you mentioned "100 years of solitude", "love in the set of cholera", it was made into a movie. he inspired writers with magical realism, influential in latin america and all over the world,
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translating into 30 languages. >> you see, of course, in terms of american writers, a bit of him in some of the great wild jonathan leth am books. it was a wonderful time of writing. i think of some people who are a great part of the literature, they came from - particularly condera and gar cia marquez from trible things in eastern europe and latin america. he was politically incorrect, he was a big supporter for dell castro, but never apologised for that. >> he didn't. some called him the greatest columbian. >> well deserved nobel prize. >> let's move on to music - tv, movies, video games, they've been going for the best possible hd. it seems like the audio world is
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going back ward. used to be wanting highify and there was a debate wanting the best sounds. maybe no one thinks mp3s sound great. >> it's true. it's interesting what happened to the world. as you say, when you grew up, you wanted a good highify system. when c.d.s came along, we were wowed by the extraordinary fidelity. it all took a less turn. the convenience of mp3s trumped the concern. i thought what we were going to see in the apple istore - this is how the record industry macts money, we bout the lp, the cassette. the track and the mp3s, and a last pay day with hd mp3s. neil young is trying to go against that. >> neil young started a kick starter campaign for a new audio player, costing $400. it's pono and he raised a lot of
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money. how does it work. >> he did. part of this is - we have to be skeptical. when celebrities get involved, we don't think clearly. it's a version of the ipod. it doesn't play every one of the code ex. high fidelity may say that you can get better than the high quality mp3s. it may or may not be true. apps an ipod that plays certain code exes, and they will wow people. c.d.s have extraordinary sounds. they are remarkable. they give us 22,000 times a second we get chunks of sound, and they are doing it - it's at 16 bits, which is extraordinarily. most say more than that we can't hear. >> speaking about changes in music. if you wanted to buy the cd, you
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can get it online. you used to go to a record store that sold the tracks and vine ills, it's meant to bring attention to what declined. you used to work at a record store. they pretty much disappeared. we have about 30 seconds left. do you see much hope for the future. >> the record store day came around and it's almost as big as christmas for them. if you want to support your local store, go out there. a lot of bands release special edition s on vinyls. there's life albums. they'll be available on saturday. on the other hand. let's remember this is sort of a novelty, and boy the record stores will not be around much longer. the physical sales decrease at 10-15% per year. >> i hate to say it, i don't know where there is a record
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store. i have no idea. >> and you live in new york. >> between new york and miami. i don't know any here or there. i'll have to look. >> the show may be over, the conversation continues on the website or facebook or google+ pages. see you next time. >> good evening everyone. welcome to al jazeera america. i'm john seigenthaler in new york. diffusing the crisis. diments strike a deal on -- diplomats strike a deal on eastern ukraine, but vladimir putin says he still could send in troops. highway attacks. a major break in a string of shootings near kansas city. >> standing guard for a rancher and his cattle. why these americans are taking up arms against the u.s. government. >> and the magic of movies. how the