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only on al jazeera america >> ferguson police finally released details about the day michael brown was killed. it's made many people angrier. and another massacre by the islamic state group raises questions about what america should do in iraq. i'm antonio mora, much more straight ahead. >> the officer that was involved in the shooting was darren wilson. >> police released this video today saying brown robbed a convenience store before he was
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shot and killed. >> basically smoke and mirrors to try to divert attention. >> theft does not mean death. >> we got to be sure we don't burn down our own house. >> the white house is urging to unite behind a body and not against the islamic state. >> if there are any russian military personnel or vehicles in eastern ukraine they need to be withdrawn immediately. >> it is a money saver on three wheels. >> almost 300 miles per gallon. >> you don't know how it feels to be offcenter in a vehicle until you get to drive between the wheels. >> a new video by michael jackson. >> we begin with stunning revelations in the michael brown
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case that have outraged his family and produced more outrage in the community. 28-year-old darren wilson. >> an officer for six years, no disciplinary actions taken against him. he was treated for injuries saturday. >> quickly overshadowed by the release of a videotape showing purportedly michael brown taking place in a strong arm rob i at a convenience store just before the shooting. police were not aware that he was a suspect after the officer stopped him for walking in the middle of the road. >> i know his initial contact was not because of the robbery. >> furious that police chose to release the robbery report but no information about the shooting itself. a lawyer for the brown family
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said it was a strategic move to distract from the naming of the officer. >> it was a character assassination attempt. >> despite the quieter night in ferguson on thursday after captain ron johnson took over security in the town and marched with protesters, the concern that the latest release would spark violence. johnson called on the community to stay calm. >> in our anger we have to make sure that we don't burn down our own house that we don't go down there and vandalize our own buildings. >> for a legal perspective we're joined by criminal defense attorney neil shaust. neil good to have you with us. let's start with the video. how significant is it? >> i tell you this antonio, both sides are going to put their spin on the release of the video and its significance.
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for michael brown's family and his lawyers and the community activists obviously that he are going to say and they are saying that this is a smear campaign by the police to impugn his character, has no real significance, with his contact with the officer, certainly doesn't justify the shooting of an unarmed man perhaps from behind as he was running away. on the other hand the officer and perhaps the department are going to say that this video depicts somebody -- i mean first of all in the video michael brown looks -- he's a big guy, he's intimidating looking and secondly his demeanor is angry, it's combative, it's violent. his behavior is out of control and they'll say look it's much easier to believe that somebody in this sort of demeanor would attack an officer and pose a threat to an officer. >> all right let's break it down. there's total confusion about
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what sergeant wilson knew when he stopped michael brown. the police chief first said it wasn't because of the robbery, that the two men were walking in the middle of the road. but the chief said the officer could have seen the cigar boxes and connected it to the robbery. >> as he passed them he might have seen the evidence and connected it but his initial contact was strictly pedestrian. >> what do you mean seeing the evidence? >> there was a broadcast about a stealing and cigar stolen, couple of boxes of cigars. >> it doesn't make a difference neil if during the incident the officer figured out that brown was a rockery suspect? >> you know it does. and it's sort of like the old question, what did he know and when did he know it? if in fact it turned out he was aware and did suspect that this was the person that committed the robbery then absolutely. he had more reason to believe that this person is potentially
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violent, potentially dangerous, is a fleeing felon and that would probably justify him using a greater level of force to protect himself and to subdue the suspect. now certainly not killing somebody unnecessarily, certainly not shooting somebody from behind if that turns out to be the case. but definitely it would give the officer more leeway in terms of justifying his use of force. >> you've been involved in the prosecution and defense of police officers. had the police officer been hit by brawn, as all said he may be surrendering. >> at the end of the day, what was going at the movement the officer pulled the trigger. if there was a struggle taking place and brown was hitting the officer at that moment and trying to go for his gun, then that does certainly make a difference. if on the other hand there was a struggle that took place but as some witnesses have said brown
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at that point sort of pushed away and was running away and the officer pursued him from behind and shot him no, none of the struggle and none of the prior conduct would justify shooting a person in that circumstance. so everything's really going to turn on this factual, this sort of disputed right now factual inquiry as to what exactly was going on at the moment that the trigger was pulled. >> how about -- the. >> how about michael brown's state of mind? does the alleged robbery have meaning? did he think he was being stopped and if he did, would that make a difference? >> it might make a difference. certainly to the extent that he was -- had just committed a robbery, he may have been worried that he was going to be arrested and charged with a very serious felony, that may have made him more desperate to get away, that may have made him more willing to use force to resist arrest.
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so ultimately the fact of the robbery may have real significance not only to the officer's state of mind but also to michael brown's state of mind. >> you've been involved in these investigations. why did police who said they had this video for days, take so long to release it and why didn't they say how many times the officer discharged his weapon? >> i don't see why they wouldn't be open and transparent in this case, but legal considerations, first of all they needed to be absolutely certain that it was michael brown who's depicted in the video before they released it and told the public that it was. so there are legal and tactical considerations, but frankly, i mean, it's a piece of evidence at least from a pr perspective that i think supports the department and supports the officer. and i'm surprised that it was not released earlier. >> yes, a lot of questions about
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allow they're handling all of this, neil real pleasure to have you with us. >> my pleasure. >> joining us from ferguson , "america tonight" exornt ash-har quraishi. correspondent ash-har quraishi. what has been the reaction? >> the reaction is positively, they have reacted to the name of the police officer that shot and killed michael brown, that did happen today. and people were happy about that coming out. but then the release of this information about the surveillance video, the surveillance camera at this convenience store that purports to show michael brown committing a burglary before he encounters that police officer, what is the significance? why simultaneously put out both pieces of information unless you are trying to divert attention from the original which is what they've been asking for, the name of that police officer and
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confounding this basically because they say as you've been talking about, the burglary was not made known to this police officer as we were told originally. so it may not or should not have played a part in whether or not he was stopped. so there is a twofold reaction here. but again today, just like yesterday, very different tone here. we've not seen the large contingency of police officers, not the swat teams and the police in riot gear. it is still a very loud very boisterous protest here and it's been peaceful. despite the rainfall, it's been raining in ferguson throughout the evening, cars continue to drive through here at a steady pace antonio. >> the family does say it appears to be michael brown in the video and say it is character assassination for releasing it as they did. captain ron johnson was put in charge of things and given control over the security situation.
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but he was upset about the ferguson police chief releasing all this without his knowledge. what's going on? >> well, you know, clearly, he doesn't have control over the investigation. the investigation is being conducted by a series of other agencies including the department of justice, the fbi and the st. louis county police department. his jurisdiction is basically to maintain crowd control here so it affects him if that way. if it incites people here it makes his job harder. crowds have followed him, the handshaking, the hugging, this is a person people trust. this is the only police presence that we've seen here at all in the past few days, for him to do his job makes it more difficult when he doesn't understand the information released by the ferguson police department, which doesn't have any jurisdiction when it comes to the murder or the fatal shooting
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of michael brown, he says that becomes a challenge for him, he has to come out here and stem per things down antonio. >> good to see things are calm. al jazeera's ash-har quraishi, thank you for joining us. , serving as chief of police in de kalb county, how to improve relations between the community and the police. chief, good to have you with us. you encouraged the police to be more transparent, they did that on friday. but residents are saying they believe police released the report about the robbery just as they were revealing the officer's name as an attempt to justify the shooting. michael brown's family called it a devious attempt to assassinate brown's character.
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what is your response to that? >> i don't have a response to that. whatever reason for the release of that information i certainly cannot speak to. l but i can say this. my mission over the course of the weekend, representing and being the national president of noble is one fold and one, clearly a lot of dissention, actually, is there between the community and the police. and it is about feeling that sense of trust. it appears to be eroding and i think that they, and i know for certain that they, the police department there, and having a number of conversations with chief jackson, he understands the importance of maintaining that relationship or garnering the relationship with the community. >> now, there does seem to be some infighting with the police. captain ron johnson who was put in charge was not consulted about the ferguson press conference where the information was released.
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he said the robbing and shooting were two separate situations. listen to this. >> i'm not going osay one justifies the other okay? i think if we're going ogive answers we need not give hints, we need to say it. >> to play devil's advocate doesn't this change the story though? isn't it relevant to law enforcement that michael brown might have been involved in a robbery? >> well, here again, you're asking me a question. that i cannot answer. i do not know any more than what, quite frankly, i've been viewing over the media. now, there was a robbery, e-that occurred that day. who's the person involved in that robbery, it has not been clearly articulated to the public. so whether it was michael brown or not, i don't know. but what we do know is that somewhere shortly thereafter, there was an altercation with a police officer and mr. brown.
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now, the -- where those two connect and where they intersect, i think that becomes part of the whole investigation that is going otake place, or that is underway. and it becomes a part of that theater, it becomes a part of that entire stage, as to was this mr. brown at this store? or was it not? and where do those intersect between that and of course that of the shooting itself. i don't know that, the answer to that and i don't think anyone has clearly articulated an answer to it. it all appears to be at this point just mere speculation. because it is an ongoing investigation. >> now, talking about the community and its relations with the police, there's little doubt that ferguson needs more diversity on the police force. 53 officers, only three african american in a city that's more than two-thirds black. why -- i know you've spoken with the chief of police about that but how does it even get to that
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point where there is just such an enormous dichotomy between a police force and a community? >> well, you know there could be numbers of reasons for it and i'm just going to speculate for a moment. we don't know what the demographics of that city may have been 15, 20 years ago. i don't know that, you know i don't have that piece of demographic history. >> it was predominantly white in the 50s but that began to change in the 80s. >> i don't know about that, but it is a grave concern, you have a 67% population that is african american and you have a police department that is about 97% white. and you have 3 african americans white. that is a real grave concern. and i have had brief conversation with chief -- with the chief about that. and we're going to have that conversation further.
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and we're going to work together, that city and noble, we're going to work together to resolve some of those issues and we're going to do whatever we can to help them. >> now you're pushing for police to be required to have those wearable cameras and record interactions with citizens. now we're seeing police being so militarized with such incredible and expensive equipment. so why isn't that already the fact across the country, certainly in significant size police forces, that those cameras are everywhere? >> well, i think we all would agree that a couple of nights ago, with the military-style posture you saw out there, that was somewhat questionable, very questionable in regards to people who were just peacefully protesting and officers standing there with long rifles and
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sniper on top of a vehicle, pointing it out at the citizens. absolutely that is not acceptable under those circumstances. there are times when police departments must have a swat team that's prepared to engage a threat that is a threat to the community. but that was not the case the other night. and so that was another misstep that took place. because that should not we see a very different approach now a softer approach now and it is working. and so as we move forward, this is going to be part of some of the things that we're going to learn how, they're going to learn how to do better. and i think there's going to be some lessons for police departments across the country as well, too. when to employ those type of
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tactics, when you're up against someone who is a posing threat to the community. but in this case you're talking about citizens unarmed who are peacefully trying to protest their concern and it only created a worsening problem. >> dr. cedric alexander, pleasure to have you with us. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up the islamic state group carries out another massacre. are western nations doing enough to stop the terrorists? also ukrainian officials claim they've partially destroyed an armed russian convoy, kremlin officials call it a fantasy, but could it be a fantasy between ukrainian and russia?
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>> international pressure continued to build friday against the islamic state group against atrocities in syria and iraq. european endorsers, in northern iraq and the u.n. security council voted unanimously to
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black list leaders of i.s. and others linked to al qaeda. reports claim the jihadists have killed at least 80 yazidi men and abducted women from iraq, they arrived in vehicles and started their killing this afternoon. we believe it's because of their creed. convert or be killed. for more i'm joined from london by majiid noaz. a former ranking member of the islamist group hisbut tarir. he's the author of radical my journey out of islam terrorism. you wrote a powerful piece that said the international community must do more to help the yazidi persecute id by i.
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s. >> i think that's what the islamic state is attempting in iraq, dlairk their intention in the world, posing with all sorts of gruesome photographs of what they intend to do with the yazidis, the christians and telling people they are enslaving women and raping them as sex slaves. at the time i wrote the piece there were thousands upon thousands of yazidi community on mount sinjar surround he by islamic state members and the i.s. members threatened to kill them on air. i pleaded with president obama to strike at i.s. forces and strike in their fight back against i.
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s. professionally i'm encouraged by the view that those forces went in to cover the ground forces. >> you are personally of the view, if we don't who will stand up for these people, some european nations are offering to help the u.s. rearm the kurds and we're certainly hearing a lot more rhetoric out of europe about this group but is the international community doing enough? >> i think there are a few things to do more and i'm encouraged by the british and american efforts on the humanitarian as well as on the military sort of side of things but there are things we can do to improve. one of them is we need to provide more support to the kurdish peshmerga. it may be pushing for political and diplomatic recognition of the government. with the breakup of iraq as it currently is, the kurdish peshmerga are the strongest
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forces that have any chance of resisting the islamic terrorists. i'm encouraged with the election of iraq with abadi succeeding maliki, he has a less of a sectarian approach only time will tell but let's hope for best there. we should provide pressure on the islamist movements and that decision seems to have backfired. we should reconsider the post pike's peak arrangements, the british imposed after world war 1, and the i. ss of s. has failed to capture the imaginations of the people of the region.
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i would encourage working along economic lines and form a secular union to pull the rug out of the need of the islamic state. >> those borders were drawn arbitrarily almost 100 years ago, and there's been a lot of talk, whether iraq will split up into three states, sunni, shia and kurd. you described your transformation, could you see yourself supporting a group like the islamic state? people defecting from al qaeda. >> yes, i.s. has become a vanguard for global jihad. though it's an islam ick extremist organization it never
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subscribed to terrorism. popularizing the notion of establishing a caliphate, the efforts to force a theocracy, the sunni arabs in particular. too impressed of what the i.s. is doing, the i.s. is too extreme for al qaeda, and they've been fighting for a while. unfortunately, it does seem to be attracting the vast majorities of foreign fighters who are traveling to the region to join a jihadist entity, that is probably because of a few factors, one, their use on the ground, two, and three, their premature declaration of establishing a caliphate. that kick starts a religious obligation to
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pledge allegiance to the caliph. >> some of the sunni tribe leaders in iraq may be considering working with the government now that maliki is going to be gone. there's also word that hezbollah, a group that's considered a terrorist group is calling the i.s. monsters. now you've got terrorists calling other terrorists monsters. i realize one is shia, the other is sunni, but could there be a growing movement against the atrocities these are making, mass executions, crucifixions, beheadings? >> hezbollah backed the dictator bashar al-assad, that's less of strategic
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relevance. to have a peace much transition to abadi, that calls for optimism. i think what needs to happen now is the arab trieps, abad -- tribes, abadi needs to woo the arab leaders and there's an opportunity for the arab tribes to be brought back into the fold of iraq. what needs to happen is regional sunni governments need to be far more involved, the brits are in there with the humanitarian aid but what are the regional sunni governments doing? it's expected that the shiite led governments would oppose the i.s. as well though they of course are heretics. >> let's hope that does happen. as always very good to have you
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on the show and good luck with the protests that you're planning in england to call atrocities that are being committed. >> pleasure to be here. >> turning from the crisis in iraq to conflicting reports of an attack between ukraine and russia. ukrainian officials said friday that an armed russian convoy had been partly destroyed after crossing the country's border. moscow dismissed the report as some kind of fantasy. sometime friday evening, repeated russian incursions in the ukraine. meanwhile the inspector said the relief convoy did include mostly food and water although many trucks appeared to be mostly empty. senior director for russia
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ukraine and you'r e ur asia. eurasia. >> russia's foreign minister dismissed these reports, as some kind of fantasy . no russian convoy crossed the bother at night or during the day. >> apparently there was several dozen of them. the fact that the ukrainians were able at nighttime to destroy a good number of them with a artillery fire suggests that the ukrainians have pretty good military capability in an area at luhansk, generally thought to be controlled by the rebels. >> now naict nat nato said the incursion,
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britain summoned russia ambassador to explain exactly what was happening. foreign secretary phillip hammond made these comments. >> there are any russian military personnel or vehicles in eastern ukraine they need to be withdrawn immediately or the consequences could be very serious. >> now how serious do you think this is? >> well, the main consequences of course are the ones that ukraine has just delivered onto the armored personnel carriers but there are others. ukraine seems to be bobbing an weaving going back and forth, into eastern ukraine it used to have 40,000 troops opposite eastern ukraine a couple months ago, then withdrew some then built back to 20,000. ukraine seems unwilling to go forward. the big shock was state owned
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rossnef asked for 40 billion in aid, saying it's not able to borrow that on economic markets. the cost of this military around ukraine are rising. >> let's talk about the sanctions and how they're starting to punish ordinary russians. we're seeing that inflation is expected to hit 9% this year. there are new taxes that are being added to close the budget gaps. greatly because of the crisis in ukraine. there's a poll out there that says a minimal number of russians said they're willing to make personal sacrifices for vladimir putin's plit commitments. could ordinary discontent of russians be on the rise and force putin to back off? >> that's quite possible. when they seized crimea earlier this year, that was a bloodless
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seizure. complete tablght cal surprise, that -- tactical surprise about that. but when russians became ambitious, going into eastern ukraine, ukrainians had time to prepare and the cost of that kind of activity have been rising steadily over time. as ukraine developed its military capabilities moved them eastward, ukrainians , luhansk donetske, the kremlin had to make a decision should it retreat? should it for example try to hold on only to one of those two, oblesk, and luhansk protrudes more into russia than donetske does. they may be thinking about sacrificing one of them or both of them. pressure is rising.
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>> the red cross says that the humanitarian situation in rebel held areas especially in luhansk, lack ever electricity, lack of power lack of water is really getting serious. of course much of the concern this week had been over what the russians called an aid convoy, 260 trucks that were going oluhansk where all this fighting is is taking place. but when those trucks were searched by ukrainian border guards they found aid supplies in some trucks while others were almost empty. western reporters have confirmed that, that they saw trucks that were almost empty and meantime, military vehicles were seen escorting the convoy. what do you think the russians are up to with this? >> the russians probably intended for those supplies to go to rebel forces so rebel forces could build some goodwill themselves by distributing some of the supplies and rebel forces could have used other supplies.
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the fact that some of the trucks were largely empty suggests that what russia really wanted to get there were the military related personnel going with those trucks and the trucks themselves could serve useful purposes. >> is putin thinking that the west is distracted by what's going on in iraq and syria and israel and gaza and if so what would this mean for him. >> well, it's clear europe and america still giving this high priority. europe and america are standing together as we just saw from the comment from british foreign secretary phillip hammond. they are actually taking the lead, in europe, stronger than american comments are. if putin hoped that, that's not really happening. from putin's standpoint this thing may be going sour rapidly. he has to think what to do.
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if they are going to retreat rather than invade, the odds are they are not going to carry out an invasion, what are his options? the parallel, nikita khrushchev was out offed less than two years later. so putin has to figure, he would have been better off probably taking crimea. but by going bigger he is gambling a bigger political loss. >> ambassador good to have you with us. >> thank you antonio. >> now for other stories around the world. we begin in pakistan where clashes erupted as an estimated 20,000 people who were marching towards the capitol of islamabad were attacked with rocks and possibly
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gun fire. imran khan. pakistan's first democrat transfer of power since gaining power in 1947. but khan says they want supervision under a new provisional government. but sharif, will block roads with trucks and bashed wire. africa, world health organization is warning the ebola outbreak is much worse than initially thought. 2,000 have been confirmed infected and 1,140 people have died. vast reply underestimate the magnitude of the outbreak. the w.h.o. did announce a scaling up of support for hardest hit countries but on friday doctors without borders says the
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outbreak could last another six months. >> texas, governor rick perry has been indicted. he had threatened to veto a bill and withhold the money unless the head of the unit, district attorney, rosemary lemburg resigned. she had pleaded guilty to drunk driving. when she refused to resign, he vetoed the bill. he is accused of coercion of a public servant. he so face nine years. that's something . also the panama canal turns 100 years old. why it's just as important today as it was back then. nchtsd and later a new michael jackson video is released online to immediate success.
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>> imagine a world when a car gets 84 miles to a gallon, goes from zero to 60 in 9.4 seconds and cost 6,000? the car is the eleo, you have to get in line, 27,000 people have already ordered one. it looks strange, it only has three wheels. >> jim, good to have you with us. this thing looks pecular in a futuristic way. all the safety features of a car, antilock breaks air bags and pretty much everything else. you've driven one. how does it feel more like a car or a motorcycle? >> it's a little hard to tell at
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this point. because it doesn't have the production engine yet. it's got a motor from a jee geometro geometro. unfortunately, the car is supposed to come out around the end of the year. they've had some delays. end of next year i should say. and what they're trying to do is, they're trying to get a very low-cost commuter car, cost $6800 and as you said get like 84 miles per gallon. it's all theoretical now, they've actually got to get the motor in. that thing creates -- i drove it around new york, new york city with the current configuration and people went absolutely nuts over it. they're so excited, to see it. they thought it would cost a whole lot more. when they hear the target is $6800 they want one.
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>> they say it can go 100 miles an hour. 84 miles on the highway per gallon of gas. 64 in the city. after driving it, it looks a little flimsy. is it something you would want to go even 75 miles an hour in because it doesn't look that sturdy. >> again it's hard to tell. i only drove it around new york, on city streets. it might be a handful on the highway. i wouldn't be surprised. i didn't have that experience. the motor in it isn't one that it's eventually going ohave and a whole lot of engineering still has to happen before this car is any kind of ready to go condition. >> what about comfort? it has two seats one behind the other and four and a half feet tall. it gets dwarfed by all those suvs around there. >> it's like any low riding car,
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you have to sort of climb into it. i would say the real challenge is for the second passenger who sits directly behind the driver. that's really claustrophobic. i'm six feet tall, i fit back there but it's not a place i would want to be for a long time i can tell that you. >> the price $6800, it's a lot less than the average price of a new car in the u.s. which is about $32,000 and a lot less than the least expensive car, $14,000. how are they managing to sell it for so little? >> if you look at their projections they say they're only going to make about $1,000 profit per car. definitely. it is going to take them a while to get their investment back. but -- and also they're talking about very high volumes. they want to produce 250,000 of them in a year which may be with the public excitement that's
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possible but to really get oprofitability they're going to need -- to profitability they're going to need fairly high margin. >> final answer do you think it will succeed? >> if they can do what they say they're going to do which is achieve their targets. get to the 84 miles per gallon, actually sell it for $6800. it happened to be a really quality-feeling car and not something that feels flimsy, if they can do all that then i think they would have a success. but a lot of things have to happen first. they have to raise the money not only to get it through the engineering phase but through production. they have to build a dealer network. they have to have a service network. i mean there's a reason that tesla is the only successful american auto america launched since chrysler in the 20s. it's really hard to do.
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>> today's data dive sails through the panama canal. today marks 100 years, 270 billion a year of shipping. during the past year more than a million vessels passed through canal carrying an excess of 8
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billion pounds of cargo. from the atlantic ocean to the pacific, ships take about eight to ten hours to cross. a canal to allow inexpensive shipping from the ports of the atlantic and the ports in the pacific, an attempt through central america failed. the u.s. got rights to build it in panama, but panama rejected the deal. theodore roosevelt responded by stationing ships add ends, where it would be built. panama relented. annual payment of $250,000. the project took a decade to complete and cost $375 million, that's about $9 billion, adjusted for inflation. 10% of the people who worked on the canal died because of
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accident or illness. it was an achievement that remained under u.s. control until 1999. 20 years after president jimmy carter agreed to transfer the control to panama. $5.5 billion expansion that began in 2007. this, is what we do.
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some of the most unforgettable characters to ever appear on film. this week brought new information from another entertainer gone too soon, michael jackson released another video, like no one has ever done before. former npr arts editor bill wyman. michael jackson original again because he's debuted they have debuted for him, this video on twitter. huge screen in times square, he passed away and they're still releasing new videos of him. >> it's so true and what's happening here is the estate of michael jackson which is run by a very sharp lawyer in l.a. is just doing its job. it's supposed to monetize the estate, for his three children.
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michael jackson didn't record much material in the last ten to 15 years of his life. i kind of think if it was great released. this is second pos posthumous album. this is hype master to pay attention to these songs. >> you've written about the jackson estate for the new yorker. the video was of a song of a place with no name which is on his second posthumous album, released in may. there are more videos to come, according to his estate. obviously, as you said, they are there to make money. jackson has harris. bu -- heirs.but the question is byo much, with questionable quality are they hurting his legacy? >> it's hard to tell. because they would probably say
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that there is some money coming out of it. interestingly, i don't even know if they're making that much money from the actual releases which let's face it aren't selling that well but they do better overseas as jackson's career always was. it lets them monetize his image. remember the cirque du soleil show. michael jackson's holdings, by some accounts he was nearly bankrupt at the time of his death. they've put everything into the black. the video is based on the owl america song a horse with no name. outtakes, it's material from the herb ritz video in the closet, which was a very strange song for him to do at the time. and a few constant seconds standing on the set, wearing his
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sunglasses and look made up. >> let's move on with lauren bacall, seems like she didn't get the attention she deserved. her greatest movie line, to have and have not. >> you know how to whistle don't you steve? you just put your lips together and blow. >> the line is ranked on the american film institute's list of top movie quotes as number 34. american film institute has her as 20th of the greatest movie actresses of all time. the reality is not that many young people really seem to know her. >> i think that's really true. she's of all the great hollywood movie actresses she could have been the oddest. she did 74 movies with bogart in the early 40s. after that she didn't have much of a career. she worked regularly but people
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refer to her as betty davis or katherine hepburn. she is is a statuesque actress, she was nominated one time, never won an oscar, an honorary oscar, she was combative the same way as betty davis or katherine hepburn was. she was about 19, 20 at that time, so she was a woman who -- i don't want to say coasted but she had her moment and it was 65 years ago and she's lift all of those years since, there's a reason she's not in the public mind. >> but it raises the question of of is talent really timeless and raises the question can there ever be a lauren bacall, instagram, 24 hour news. >> it really is true. stars today they're sort of --
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it's up to them to sort of generate their own publicity. the only referring to brad pith and angelineie anc angelina jolie, that's weird algebra of celebrity that you put two celebrities together and the fame increases exponentially. the stars, she was married to a movie star but on her own fighting with the movie studio. stars fighting for their careers she didn't have that. >> dave wyman thanks. that's all for now. the conversation continues on
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