♪ >> this is "al jazeera america." i am michael lee in new york. here are today's top stories. >> there are some yet very serious sanctions that can be taken which have a profound increase, negative impact on the russian economy. >> secretary of state john kerry warned russia over its involvement in the ukraine crisis. also nigeria strikes back driving boko haram forces out of a boarder town. a troubling trend in rural
america, small community hospitals are closing leaving residents with no easy access to emergency care. on the 50 year anniversary of his assassination, we will talk about how malcolm x changed the push to secure civil rights both them then and now. our top story, the u.s. and britain frustrated with the ineffective restriction of the cease-fire in ukraine. secretary of state john kerry accuses russia of lands grabbing. ukraine and russia-backed separatits point fingers at each other for violations of the seats fire kerry and phillip hammonds say they are clear on who is to blame.
russia has engaged in a brazen and cynical process. there is no secret to any of us not in this age of visibility. >> we talk about unity and u.s.-european alignment in response to those breaches of that agreement. >> news of a possible new round of financial sanctions appears to annoy russian citizens instead of being a major concern. here is more now from rory challands in moscow. >> the likely cremlen response is any increase in sanctions would be counterproductive which would further lead to the exacerbation of tensions and the kremlin would be forced to come with age appropriate response. the west is in a dilemmafa.
it isn't minded to use force other than supplying with offensive weaponry. the safrpsz it has applied don't seem to have changed the kremlin kremlin's behavior in any way we are talking about giving it another turn of the screws. it's not to say they have had no effect. they have on russian public opinion and annoyed a lot of ordinary russians and made anti-western sentiment more pronounced. >> that's been played to maximum effect. today, saturday saturday you have had thousands and thousands of people out on the streets of mofkt 0 on what is being called an anti-maidan rally, to say the people on the streets of moscow were saying what happened in ukraine a year ago was a bloody
disaster and nothing of the sort should be allowed to happen here in russia. >> reporting from moscow. some of the rments of war-torn eastern ukraine were able to return to their homes today inand what they saw was heartbreaking. many breaking out in tears as they surveyed the damage. the town of debaltseve was captured four days after the start of a cease-fire that was supposed to stop the fighting. al jazeera paul brennan was in debaltseve as the towns people examined what's left of their home? >> scene of the final big battle on the edge of debaltseve is scattered with the debris of war, burned out vehicles and appear tank and the black ended evidence of intention close-quarters combat. it's four days since the ukrainian troops fled but the shell-shocked civilians are dazed and bewilders. galina is left homeless by the
fighting. i wanted and tried to hard to maintain the house and make it comfortable so i could leave an inheritance to my granddaughter. now, it's unrepairable. there is no ceiling, no roof. only the walls remain. >> inside the house is uninhabitable. it's so horrible, she says. she now has to sleep in the sellcellar. >> 15 people are living there because houses have been completely destroyed. >> are they receiving in i help any assistance? are you getting any humanitarian aid? >> nothing. i haven't received anything. no humanitarian aid nothing. >> the residences emotions swing between resentment and sgar. many have not had water supplies for months. all are genuinely desperate. the man in the middle is not distributing humanitarian aid. he is appealing for calm the
authorities, are yet to properly address. the manf from donetsk promises help is on its way. we will accept help from whom ever can provide it. yesterday, eight planes landed during the night in a humanitarian convoy. ten trucks with 110 tons of food stuff, especially for the people of debaltseve. >> a fact-finding group from the ngo doctors without borders has arrived but they haven't yet set up a medical facility? >> not yet. not yet. residents who fled to the cellars to escape shelling now have no where to go bang home to when the conflict erupt erupted last year lisa was hoping to finish college. now, she has almost no hope at all. >> there is a war going on. brother is killing brother. how many innocent people have been killed?
how many children have died? et cetera impossible to feel that without weeping. only those who person, these things can know how i feel. there is nothing more terrifying in the whole world than this war. and people need to find a way to survive. an effective cell phone in eastern ukraine would be only the first small step in restoring a degree of normality to this region. conflict has caused mental and psychological pain just as deep as the if i see cal hurt paul brennan, al jazeera. debaltseve. debaltseve. the ukraine government and russian backed separatists say they completed a group. 52 rebels were transferred. ukrainian president petro
poroshenko confirmed it on his twitter account and said 140 will be free. the crisis was one the topics between pope francis and angela merkel. they talked at the vatican also meet something bishops, calling for pro-russian separatists to abide by the seats fire agreement. nigerian army has retain a strategic town formally under control of boko haram, the city of baga on lake chad is near cameroon. the town is a headquarters for multiple multi-national military force from all four countries. he von edege has more from the capital. >> the recapture is a hugely significant and symbolic victory for the nigerian army because it has been the thorn in the side
of the fight against the group over the last 6 years, two very controversial events have taken place in the town earlier this year in january. there were reports of at least 2000 people killed by boko haram and the military were basically accused of turning a blind eye to this. in 2013, similar accusations, though a smaller number at least 200 people were allegedly killed by boko haram and dumped in a mass grave. again, authorities were accused of not responding to sos calls from residents in the area. so it was hugely important for the nigerian military to get this town back from boko haram. they are telling us many were killed in the violence that cantha took place, that they were able to get weapons that the group were holding, anti-air anti-aircraft weapons for example and what they are hoping now that the town is under the control the of the nigerian army is that we will start to see the
many thousands who fled to neighboring country leads to like niger republic return? >>. >> reporting from abuja. the victory comes as france's foreign minister is touring the region. he met with leaders from chad and cameroon both participating in a multi-national ground and air offensive against boko haram. >> is scheduled to begin next month hadi says he is technically the president. he left the capital friday after being held for weeks under house arrest by houthi fighters in a statement obtained by al jazeera, he called the houthi since september i will legitimate. mohammed vall has more from aden. he was expectedto as each envisioned on the local a den t.v. at the last minute that statement was obtained by
al jazeera. it included quite a few points one of them is that every decision every appointment every change that took place since september 21st, when the houthis stormed sanaa should be annuled and considered void legally and he mentioned there that those sdekz, those appointments were taken by an illegal militia of the capitol of yemen. he sdmand the international community to come to -- continue to support the solutions political solutions after the downfall. those include the gulf initiative, the terms of the gulf initiative and the terms of the yemenin national dialogue. he says he abides by those conditions, those terms and resolutions and that the international community should help. he also demanded the immediate release of all of the ministers
and high-ranking government officials who still are under house arrest or have been abducted by the houthis. and he demanded that the partners to the national dialogue that have been -- national peace talks taking place should move here to aden or so ash can participate in the search for solutions for yemen. >> reporting from yemen. >> the new secretary of defense made a surprise visit to afghanistan this weekend. he is trying to assess whether they are threatening afghan security. >> our priority now is to make sure this progress sticks. >> is why president obama's considering a number of options to reinforce our support for president ghani's security strategy including possible changes to the timeline for our dra do you remember of u.s.
troops. >> could mean taking another look at the timing and sequencing of base close user to ensure we have the right array of coalitions to support our partners president obama had aimed at cutting troop levels. he has been more cooperative with his predecessor and indicated he wants to see a slowdown in the u.s. troop withdrawal. optimistic about the deal to get the country out of austerity, after grease's european creditors to extend the country's rescue loans. the government says it will present reforms required as part of the deal tomorrow. >> yesterday, we won a battle but not the war. the difficulties the real difficulties, not only those related to the relationship with our partners are ahead. >> it will keep the greek government out of bankruptcy for at least four more months. join us tomorrow as we look at the full breadth of the european
crisis on the week ahead tomorrow 8:30 eastern, 5:30 pacific. a national wide oil refinery strike has spread to port arthur texas. union says it is fatigue, worker safety and wages. the expansion as moreto than a strike which began in texas and calf. west coast ports are getting ready to unload a massive back log of goods t the 5 year deal was reached yesterday after months of negotiation today marks 50 years since the assassination of malcolm x. a ceremony to honor the civil rights leader was held in harlem at the site of the old ottoman ballroom where he was murdered in 1965. the site has been turned into the malcolm x and dr. betty shabez educational center. his daughter says her father changed the course of the civil
rights movement one of the great things about malcolm is he redesigned it to include a human rights agenda. while we are focusing on integrating schools and housetion and other things malcolm said that we demand our human rights by any means necessary. >> 50 years later, the leg of malcolm x is not without controversy. a little later in the show we look back at his life and talk to the man who wrote a book about hymn 7:30 now eastern. a towering inferno, the aftermath one day after a wall of flames engulfed a residential skyscraper in dubai. also, dutch soccer fans damage a historic fountain on the famous spanish steps in rome. the transformation of new york's time square has become more family friendly. not everyone is happy about that change.
one day after it was charred by a massive fire. crews are cleaning up debris after the building went up in flames. here was the scene last night. hundreds of people were evacuated when the skyscraper caught fire. witnesses say as many as 15 floors were ablaze. today, investigators are trying to figure out what caused the blaze but they don't suspect foul play. residents
all-time records. >> thank you so much nicole mitchell. new york time square is one of the world's most popular atracks, a stunning turnaround for an area considered seedy and dangerous. not everyone is cheering this latest transformation. kristen salumy tells us why. >> it's known as the crossroads of the world. almost half a million people pass through it a day. >> it's iconic. i want to make everyone jealous. >> i want to experience what new york is all about. better place than this to see where the city never sleeps. >> all of this foot traffic is great for retailters who spend top dollar with bill boards and stores in the area but not so much for those who live and work here the presence of costume
characters. i find myself walking on the street whenever possible. >> some streets have been closed to traffic, but the move designed to make more room for pedestrians only seems to have attracted more of them. >> yes. definitely. ever since they finished construction and making it more pedestrian friendly, it's gotten more crowded and more costume characters. >> the city now wants to regulate people who dress up as cartoon characters and pose for pictures with tourists after some were caught harassing the public. even sew, time square is more family-flenld than it was back in the 1970s and '80 did. then the area was known for porn shops, profit at this timetitutes and drug dealers. it took tax incentives with a concerted area to clean up the area and fill new sky scrapers with tenants. the challenge for local
developers is to hold on to them with some major tenants like conde nast publishing moving out. >> we have challenges that grow out of our success. so many more people here that it gets crowded. like any popular tourist definition, we have to make sure we stay fresh and we keep taking care of the customer. it looks like the tourists are here to stay and as long as they don't block the sidewalk, it's hoped the businesses will remain too. kristen salomey, al jazeera, new york. >> still ahead on "al jazeera america": >> the nearest hospital at that time was 25 miles away. >> with rural hospitals closing, more and more americans will facing dire consequences. plus, the enduring legacy of malcolm x. 50 years after his death, we will speak to author and act visit herb boyd life in our new york studio.
welcome back to "al jazeera america." i am michael eaves. secretary of state john kerry threatened new sanctions against russia today at a meeting in london kerry and bill hammond accused pro-russian separatists of breaking the seats fire in ukraine. kerry says president obama is weighing his actionoptions for other actions against russia. >> the nigerian i can'town baga strategically located next to chad and cameroon. they seized a town in january followed up with what was the group's worst massacre in six years of violence. >> agrees's prime minister says he is optimistic with the dealstruction yesterday that gives a four-month extension on paying rescue loans. the greek government will offer reforms required of it tomorrow. today marks 50 years since the assassination of malcolm x, the controversial
african-american leader became a polarizing figure in the civil rights movement of the 1960s. >> malcolm x was born malcolm little in omaha in 1925 to parents who followed marcus garvy. his family faced death threats. his father was found dead after being run over by a street car. police said it was an accident. the family contended he was murdered. in the wake of his father's death, malcolm's childhood became troubled. when he was 13, his mother was placed in a mental hospital. he eventually quit school and turned to crime. at 20, he was convicted of burglary and sentenced to 10 years in prison which turned out to be a turning point. while blind bars he experience add spiritual intellectual awakening and emerged a devoted member of the nation of islam. he dropped the last name little which he considered a slave name and adopted the letter x in its place. he rose quickly in the nation of
islam as his charismatic and vibrant speeches attracted thousands of members. he preached black empowerment and crit sided martin luther king's philosophy. he married betty saturdayers with whom he shared six children, all girls. in 1964, malcolm x left the nation of islam. he felt betrayed after learning that the leader elijah mohammed had committed adult reand fathered multiple children out of wedlock. he converted to sunni islam and made the pilgrimage to mecca and founded his own religious group the organizations of afro american unity and became more open to a har moneyous solution to america's race problem. his efforts were cut short on february 21st, 1965, he was gunned down while delivering a speech in harlem's ottoman ballroom. .3 members of the nation of islam were convicted of the assassination of malcolm x. >> jesse jackson is one of the few prominent civil rights
leaders who is still active in urban communities today. david shuster talked to him about malcolm x's inflew he knew before and after his death. >> he has lived beyond his death. malcolm was a man who was de defiant, rejected with negotiable dignity, capacity to organize people. he brought mohammed ali into the nation of islam, for example. he really brought mr. farrakahn in to the nation of islam. the capacity to organize made him very different. >> has history been unfair to him? because it seems as if perhaps the i willage of malcolm x has grown harsher at least over the last several years than perhaps he was. >> the idea of by any means necessary suggests violence but he never engaged in violence never carried a weapon.
he said one should not limit one self to violence. why would we choose non-violence? one, because it's practical. you cannot overwhelm this machinery if you can't reload. it's redemptive. it will balances and for the right of full citizenship. malcolm's sense of reaching people where they were bringing them into the fold of consciousness was bringing them into the fold. michael brown case. >> malcolm, of course was malcolm part 1 and part 2, came out of poverty and rejecs. he also went to the jail system and learned, turned the jail krell into a classroom. he was converted to the nation
of -- to itslam. he came with a real since of authentic religion. he had views of black, white, came back to mecca and saw people in a broader, multi-culture multi-cultural society. he was always evolving and growing. >> that's one of the hall marks of malcolm. malcolm never stopped growing. there is something about him that said you can make it from the gutter to the other if you just do not give up and he never gave up. >> do you think that value on education malcolm x personified has been lost to a certain extents in this day and age? >> i think so. i think our becoming super athletes is a cultural phenomenon. if we could be as domineering in science and math and have the 15i78 opportunity. many schools have athletic
scholarships but not many education scholarships. that's what we are trying to do with silicon valley companies like intel and microsoft and google to give engineering similarships because it's very expensive. >> the moreover of malcolm x has evolved over time due in large part to pop culture. randall pinkston looks at how he is perceived today. >> we don't advocate violence. our people have been the constant victims of brewertality on america's racism. the government is unwilling or unhabit to do anything about it. >> he didn't sugar-coat his message. >> i think the white backlash is going to produce a black backlash. >> unlike dr. martin luther king, jr., who preached rachel tolerance and cooperation, his message was aggressive. >> so out of necessity, we have reached the point now where our
people must form self defense units with which we can defend ourselves against the southern racists like the ku klux klan and white citizenship counsel and others. >> he had broken from his former mentor elijah mohammed the leader of the all black nation of islam. the split came the same year malcolm traveled abroad meeting foreign leaders and muslims who were not white. he moderated his views but still suppress stressed black independence. >> we should do something to uplift the standards in of our society and put it on par with others. >> this is one of malcolm x's legacies with his charisma, he more than anyone else boosted membership in the nation of islam, not only here in new york but throughout the country. but his influence during his lifetime and his legacy today extend beyond religion author and scholar woodard says malcolm is now part of popular culture. >> you know you know find
malcolm x in tupak in cuba and all over latin america. only two words you see in the graffiti that is in english. one is malcolm x and the other is tupak. >> what's the one thing people need to know about malcolm x? >> one thing people need to know about malcolm x is that he was motivated by the love of his people and not the hatred of another people. >> professor. a lot of people can relate
to that. >> how many of you have he had read the autobiography of malcolm x? >> these are students in black culture. >> a lot he connects to a lot of black men trying to find their place in america after education and after college, you know, that kind of struggle to find who they are. >> in your school how often do you hear about malcolm x in the course of a school year? >> not at all. actually, i didn't know really who malcolm x was until i came to the shamburg. >> among your classmates and private schools in new york city what percentage would you say no about matlcolm x? >> know of him? probably all but really know who he was and what he was about, i would say very few. >> what is malcolm x's legacy? >> fighting for what you believe is right no matter if other people may disagree with you. >> i would say his legacy is the
idea of being unapologetically black and just giving yourself room to grow and evolve and i think not being afraid. >> dr. martin luther king sent a telegram to martin luther king's widow, expressing sadness, saying of malcolm, he had a great ability to put his finger on the existence and the root of the race problem. three years later, king was assassinated. neither man reached his 40th birthday. randall pinkston al jazeera. >> joining us now to talk about malcolm x and his effect on the civil rights movement is herb boyd, an author activist and he spent time with malcolm x on several occasions and co-edited the diary of malcolm x. >> thank you. >> we heard so many voices in randall pinkston's package from this latest generation. how do you think the average american citizen remembers him today? >> i think it's important you
have this kind of inter generational context. so many people are discovering him in snippets. the 23i78, selma, for example, a lot of my students are saying wow. that's malcolm x, you know. because they don't remember spike lee's film you know. that's like back in the '90s. so, it's all very new for them. it's good to know that they have that interest. some of it growing out, stemming from the various protests going around ferguson and stanton island. you have this critical mats developing and they are raising questions, you know, about this country. concerned about please brutality and misconduct. >> talking about things we were talking about years ago, same topics? >> the more things change the more they remain same. i think it's important though. i think what randall in that interview with those children have the same concern with my students. i teach a city college. currently a class on the history of haver let me. i take them around their community. where i live in harlem i am
surrounded by malcolm's memory, you know, down the street, you know the lamaver shari, the cluck onyx up the street is where his funeral was conducted at faith term. i mean when percy sutton was alive, he was malcolm's attorney. he was assassinated. he struggled to find a place to conduct his funeral. finally, bishop elvin childs opened the street. malcolm lived on 147th street a little bit further down, jimmie's chicken shack where he work with red fox. where you live in harlem the ghost of malcolm is strong. the young people i take them around and show them. this is where malcolm lived. here is where he was in the night clubs. here is where he had his funeral so they can textualize. i wish i could do that with a larger number of students. >> and adults? >> exactly. >> you look over his life. went through so many phases.
he had turning points multiple times in his life. when he first burst upon the scene, he was seen as a militant black nationalist because he was a mouthpiece for the nation of islam and elijah mohammed but later, he started to come in to his own voice. >> exactly. >> a fewer months after he separated from the nation of islam, he was gunned down so america was really short-changed so to speak in finding out who he really was as his own person nots just someone from the nation of islam. >> i couldn't have said it better because you tack about a limited amount of time he had to talk about being out of the strait jacket, being out of that cage because when he was in that cage >> you talk about containing a tremendous amount of energy. >> yes. >> he was in the streets as a husbandler. he was on those trains selling sandwiches selling anything he could but when he finally, came out of that pententiary after his family had em brassied him >> after reading voraciously because he was a self -- he was
self-taught. >> right? >> a formerly incarcerated man who had omnly an 8th grade education. so, it's just miraculous the achievements that he had, you know, but the nation of islam is responsible for a lot of that because they did a lot of turning people's lives around. so, he always honored that particular experience, but as you suggest, once he got outside of that he had a limited amount of time to express who this new person was. >> as i mentioned earlier, you spent a lot of time with him. >> yes. >> i want to get a little more even more personal connection to malcolm x. his third daughter was just two and a half years old when her father was killed. she is an accomplished author and motivational speaker. she spoke to al jazeera about her father's impact and legacy. >> my father was in his 20s when the world learned of him. he was assassinated martyred, you know at 39, and in 12 short years, he made a significant
impact around the world. nelson mandela said when a man has served his country and his people he can then rest in peace, and so, i would say that my father did a pretty good job about representing his people and his country. he was courageous because he really feared god, you know. his work was to find the oneness of humanity. he circled the globe in the final months of his life. instead of running for refuge because he knew his life was, you know in a matter of days he would be gone. he sought slieksz to the human condition, you know, that would treat its fellow brother in the manner thatpeople of the diaspora were treated. >> she brings up a good point, tried to find the oneness of humanity. >> happened when he made the pilgrimage to mecca. how did that change his entire outlook on humanity?
>> i think one of the things about yliasa's comments it sus succinctly sums up her life because you are talking about a formerly incarcerated man who only had an 8th grade education. i think underscore the word global, too, because he was on a mission. can you imagine that last year of his life 241 weeks, he spends abroad, you know at north africa parts of the middle east and parts of europe. so all of this experience, you know, in other words, he is completing the next that markous garvy set up in temples of the pan african expression because his parents now remember they both were garvites dna grip, he was it was there even though his mother father was killed when he was 6 and his mother was put in an institution. he had a loving family in terms of his brothers and sisters.
they were really remarkable in terms of going inside those walls and embracing him and bringing him the nation of islam. >> i will put you in a difficult position. i apologize for doing it. really quickly, now that we are at the 50 year anniversary. what will this rememberance today and this weekend do to the younger generation as they try to advance the golds they want to in the urban communities today? >> i think so much depends upon the extent to which the media really brings it to them. and, also in the classroom, you know, our teachers, you know, the same kind of teaching because these are teachable moments. black history month, you know, the film selma and a lot of the documentaries are coming out, the celebrations that are going on all over the country right now. to what extents are they participating in that? and if they are not, are their friends and relatives participating in bringing that information to them and forcing them to do the research? >> uh-huh. >> to come to grips with their own understanding of malcolm? >> the important thing. >> they have the tools to do it with modern technology? >> social media, come on.
>> connecting with people. they have it at their finger teams. herb boyd thank you for coming in tonight. >> all right. >> most of us take healthcare for granted. you know, when you need it, you can find medical help. but what happens when the hospitals you live near start to close? a look at a growing rural crisis coming up on al jazeera america.
people living in rural communities in the access to healthcare is getting more difficult. many hospitals are shutting down. as robert ray reports, that can have fatal consequences. >> reporter: cindy jones' husband, bill, died of a heart attack nearly two years ago? >> he had the usual day of a farmer. he had been on the field on a
tract offer. the nearest hospital was 25 miles away. >> the town of richland was closer only nine miles away. it's hospital could have saved jones' life. if it hadn't closed only month before he had had his heart attack. >> it's just heartbreaking. >> sib i will ammons is the former director of nursing at richland's stewart webster hospital. >> let's say i have a heart attack i get brought here, i go to the front door. this is the hospital. it's locked. there is no one in here. there is no care that people can get around here immediately. is there? >> other than the doctor's office, but if you needed e mensch emergency care no. if you had a heart attack no. >> so odds are? you may die pause there is no healthcare? >> very good possibility. >> you don't wants to lie down? >> no. >> we went to dr. lori aju's. he was a surgeon before the hospital in richland closed. today, he is the only doctor in
town and is deeply concerned about the effect on the elderly and the poor. >> the impact is very tremendous because the patient has to travel so far, almost about a minimum, 35, 40 miles to the closest hospital. >> jimmie lewis runs a rural health organization in georgia that is trying to raise money and talk with lawmakers about these forgotten areas. >> we have in many cases in georgia the equivalent or approaching the equivalent of third world healthcare, and that's simply because we don't have providers that are accessible in a timely enough fashion to provide the proper healthcare for that 1.8 million people. >> back in richland mayor adolph mcclendan is trying to raise millions for a new hospital. >> mayor, you say that the state politicians are listening to you guys, that they are going to try to help. but we have heard that before. you are a small town mayor.
you have good intentions but do you think they are going to try to get six to eight million bucks? >> they have offered me some assistance some things that we may can try to do. so, i wouldn't say anything negative at this time because we've still got some things we are working okay to try to see if we can put it together. >> but what i have to ask you, i mean, the thing is this is life and death. this is not, you know, let's fund a railroad or let's, you know, put together a community program. this is people's lives. people need health, you know attention. do they understand that? >> i really think they do because the governor made some changes, various initiative in the healthcare thing and make it easier for communities to be able to do this. >> reporter: for widow cindy jones, any government promise is too late. >> if that hospital had been there, i am sure there would have been someone there who wouldwo have had training a ningdz known what to do other
than what my daughter did. but we just didn't have that. >> robert ray, al jazeera, richland georgia. >> coming up next hour a deeper look at the threat of drug resistant bacteria, super bugs in million facilities and impact on patients across the country. join us for hospital dangers coming up at 8:00 o'clock eastern, 5:00 o'clock pacific. also ahead, on the eve of the academy awards we will look at the technology that's forcing hollywood to adapt. and the cable guy showed up as scheduled for the job outside the international space station. we will explain next on al jazeera. >> the 40 bag. you guys have done......
the space station. they are running a total of 764 feet of cable. two more spacewalks, when it's done, the iss will be prepared to dock with commercial spacecraft expected in 20s 17. hollywood's big night is 241 hours away, final preparations are underway for the 87th annual academy awards outside the adobe theatre. it will be the first time neil patrick harris hosts the ausc-arizona. many of the films nominated for awards can be scene online these days for free if you know how to find them. >> that's a problem for hollywood and small independent film makers. phil lavell explains. >> you could say it was napster that started it all. free file downloads. remember them? music industry hated t download seems so 10 years ago. streaming is spaikt the future. yet for film at least, that seems to be giving holliwood a
bit of a headache. there are loads of legal streaming sites. you pay a fee, perfect. there are lots of illegal sites out there, stream pirated moves. people watch them at no cost. those sites are breaking the law. as for those people who sit at home and stream and watch these films, are they acting illegally? >> a tricky subject. you speak to one lawyer and they will tell you one thing. it's not illegal to actual view a movie that streams on your computer as long as the copy that streams does not make a duplicate on the computer it is not violating one of the exclusive rights to the copy right owner holds. >> you speak to another, they will tell you something else. >> in fact, you are copying to go a server even temporarily the material. it is copy right infringement to stream material that you don't have a license for or that you don't own or you are not paying for in some fashion. >> okay. how about a third opinion?
>> the copy right is a list of things you are not allowed to do. you loading a movie is on that list. >> that's making a second copy, generally going to be illegal, but streaming a movie just to watch it being a viewer, that's not really something that's on the list of things that the copy right law for byrd. >> the industry is going after a lot of these sites. the it has is many are based in countries where the u.s. quite simply has no legal jurisdiction. it's the independent films you could say really feel hit hard like this one, "20 feet below" financed by individuals. the streamers have been enjoying this, but they have not been paying for it. yet it's maker is unhappy, but, also optimistic? >> it can be frustrating because you get these google lists showing me where it's being streamed and, you know, each one of those represents a financial loss to us. in theory those people would have otherwise bought it. on the flip side, it's technology that's often allowed us to make movies like this or improve the way we make the movies. and distribute them.
so, it's really. >> one source told me the studios are unlikely to go off individuals too often because they worry the court case could go against them. it's likely the industry will be forced to adapt if it wants to beat the pirates. phil lavelle, al jazeera, los angeles. >> that will do it for this hour. the news continues now with my colleague, michelle carry. >> thank you very much. this is "al jazeera america." i am richelle carey in new york with a look at today's top stories. secretary of state kerry warns of harsh vie sanctions against russia. government soldiers drive out boko haram out of a strattegeic town. >> another winter storm across the east coast and into new england. >> a very potent and virulent organism that can cause death. >> and in our deeper look the growing threat to