tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News July 13, 2018 9:00am-11:00am BST
hello, it's friday, it's nine o'clock. i'm chloe tilley, welcome to the programme it's not any friday but friday the 13th and theresa may must be hoping the day doesn't get any worse for her. donald trump has dropped the kind of bombshell that only he can. in an explosive interview with the sun, he said theresa may's brexit strategy could wreck britain's chances of a trade deal with the united states. mrs may was at a black—tie dinner with president trump at blenheim palace in oxfordshire as news brokeof his interview. and the president also said that he was disappointed the pm didn't seem to have taken his advice on how to negotiate brexit. with anti—trump protesters gathering in central london this morning
for a day of marches, we'll have all the latest on the president's visit, including interviews with politicians, protesters and trump supporters. hello. welcome to the programme. it's set to be another extraordinary day, to end a pretty extraordinary week. we're live until 11 this morning and for most of the next two hours we will be following president trump's visit. this morning protestors are gathering outside this building for an anti—trump march. we'll be speaking to some of them — are you one of them? you can see the live pictures of the helicopter which is just taking you can see the live pictures of the helicopter which isjust taking off, thatis
helicopter which isjust taking off, that is that the us ambassador‘s residence at regents park, just a few hundred metres away from here. we know president trump will be watching a joint us and uk military display, he will be spending time with prime minister theresa may and we know he is heading to chequers to spend time with her and will take tea with the queen. we will be following president donald trump's movements as he has this working visit here, rather than a state visit. we will be speaking to protesters, politicians, a number of people about donald trump's visit today. our top story today... donald trump's extraordinary intervention in the brexit debate. jon donnison reports. theresa may might have been hoping the special relationship would provide some solidarity and support at a difficult time. but, in a remarkable interview, president trump said he told the prime minister, on brexit, she'd got it wrong. not exactly hand—in—hand.
the president said the prime minister's vision of a brexit deal would kill any possible trade agreement with the united states. absent from the pomp and ceremony at blenheim palace, the former foreign secretary boris johnson, a thorn in the side of theresa may, who the president would like to see make a return. hardly music to the ears
of the actual prime minister. and, while there were warm words for the former mayor of london, not so much for the current one, sadiq khan. it was sadiq khan who signed off on the trump baby blimp that protesters will float over london today. what do we want? trump out! when do we want it? now! the demonstrations against his visit had made him feel unwelcome, the president said. these people don't like anything mr trump has to say. after his latest comments, theresa may might share some of their pain.
let's cross live now to regent's park, the home of the us ambassador and where the trumps stayed last night. as did his wife melanie. —— millennia. our north america correspondent gary o'donoghue is there. did president trump have anything to say before he got into the holly copter? he has been pretty much inside the ring of steel they have built around the ambassador‘s residence in regents park. that went up residence in regents park. that went up over the last week or so and that is where he has stayed overnight, his only night in london. you saw the pictures of marine one taking off and the various other aircraft carrying him and his entourage. their first stop will be sandhurst, the officers military training
college, where he will see a demonstration of uk and us special forces, as we understand. from there, he will go to chequers, where he will speak to the prime minister and have that key lunch and that crucial press conference where we will see whether or not they can hold it together on their brexit strategy and his criticism of it. hold it together on their brexit strategy and his criticism of itm is worth pointing out we expect a day of protests across london. many gathering in the next few hours. i understand the protesters outside the us ambassador‘s residence were trying to keep president donald trump awake last night? there was an attempt at a wall of sound, i do not think it made much impact. the us ambassador has 12.5 acres of regents park, it is possible to keep people quite a long way from the bedroom where you are sleeping. i don't think it will disturb him too much.
there will be other protests in central london, scotland and wales, and this 20 foot high balloon that will be floated above the palace of westminster, in the shape of a baby wearing a nappy, clutching a mobile phone, designed by the protesters, they say, to represent the president and his whole approach to international relations and diplomacy. he does not like it very much, he thinks the mayor of london is to blame for that happening, he criticised him again today. they have form going back sometime and donald trump used the sun article we have all looked up this morning, criticising theresa may, he also use that to have a pop at the london mayor sadiq khan, saying he is doing badly on crime and terrorism. gary 0'donoghue, thank you for that update live from the us ambassador‘s residence in london, just down the
road debris is —— at regent's park. we saw president trump taking off in the last few minutes. what are your thoughts? have things changed in light of what has been published in the sun? you can get in toe touch with us using the hashtag #victorialive. rachel schofield is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. a number of major airports in the uk are failing to meet the needs of disabled passengers, according to a new report by the civil aviation authority. manchester airport — which has been given the lowest possible poor rating — says it's now working with the caa to make improvements. here's our disability correspondent, nikki fox. —— manchester airport says it is working with the caa to make improvements. police in londonderry say there were "prolonged and sustained attacks" on police officers throughout the night in the city. two improvised explosive devices and 7a petrol bombs were thrown at police landrovers. three men have been arrested, one for attempted murder. last night was the sixth night of trouble in derry.
the government should do more to help police officers dealing with the recent nerve agent poisonings in amesbury and salisbury — that's according to the police and crime commissioner for wiltshire. angus macpherson says he had been assured by ministers that the current situation was under review. however, he said rest days and annual leave had been cancelled, and a new approach was now needed. the chief inspector of prisons has described conditions at wandsworth jail in london as shocking, saying it is still the most overcrowded in england in wales. a report questioned security measures, support for prisoners and said staff were putting inmates in danger, by failing to answer emergency alarms quickly enough. the ministry ofjustice has called the report disappointing. a group of volunteer british divers who helped save 12 boys and their football coach who were trapped in a cave in thailand have
arrived back in the uk. speaking to reporters at heathrow airport they said they weren't heroes butjust a group of people who had a unique set of skills. this is completely uncharted, unprecedented territory. nothing like this has been done. so, of course there were doubts. but i knew that we had a good team, with good support from the thai authorities, and the national caving community and rescue organisations. so we have the best that we could do to make a plan work. at least 200 people injapan are reported to have been killed in the worst flooding to affect the country in nearly a0 years. torrential rains have triggered landslides and floods in central and western areas — with more than eight million people ordered to leave their homes. parts of western japan have been hit with around four months' worth of
rain in the first two weeks ofjuly. news that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9:30am. lots of you already getting in touch this morning about president trump's visit. paul on twitter says i don't like the guy, the balloon is funny but the protests are a bit 0t t. kevin says frankly any trump style trade deal would probably not be worth happening. we have a trading surplus with the us and we could be happy with that. trump's comments we re happy with that. trump's comments were uninformed, his interference on internal matters in the uk at a critical time is sheer buffoonery. your thoughts welcome mat. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag #victorialive. and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport... holly hamilton is at the bbc sport centre. we have to talk, it is men's semifinal day, we will talk about that in a moment, but turn months
after becoming a mother, serena williams is in the final. let'sjust let that sink in for a moment. if you take that all the way, it is a big enough feat she is steering for 24th grand slam title. potentially an eighth wimbledon title. she was pregnant this time last year and is in the wimbledon final. she won in straight sets yesterday and has not dropped a match at wimbledon since 2014. she beat the world number 13 confidently in straight sets and has become the first mother to reach the wimbledon final in 38 years, that is impressive alone. serena has been so vocal about how difficult her birth was and just what this means to her getting through to the final. and yesterday she spoke about her shock
and surprise and her support from the fans. i had a really tough delivery, and, you know, i had to have multiple surgeries, and almost didn't make it, to be honest. and so i remember i couldn't even walk to my mailbox, so it's definitely not normal for me to be in the wimbledon final. so i'm taking everything as it is, and just enjoying every moment. she'll face angelique kerber in the final tomorrow after she beat jelena 0stapenko in straight sets and at number 11, she's the highest seed left in the tournament after so many of the top seeds were knocked out in the opening week. tomorrow's final will be a repeat 2016 between kerber and williams — after they faced each other in the final two years ago. ? i don't know if it'll be as straight this time. know federer on men's semifinal day
but djokovic and rafa nadal are renewing their rivalry? yes, serena in the final and a semifinal showdown between nadal and djokovic. what year is it again? we have been watching this competition for years and years! the last time they met at wimbledon though was the final in 2011 —? when they were both at the top of their game. now rafa nadal is looking to prove he is the best in the world. djokovic has been coming back from injury and is here to prove he is back to form and back there again. he has looked very impressive at wimbledon and is still trying to show everyone he is making a recovery. he says he is in top form and insists he is in the best form in overa and insists he is in the best form in over a year. former british number one tim henman says nadal is still favourite. for me, nadal is
the favourite. djokovic has had problems on and off the court over the last couple of years, he is back playing some really good tennis. physically he looks good, technically he looks good. mentally, he has the fire in his belly but i feel that dealing with adversity is the challenge when things are not going his way, whether he will be able to do that today. also in action the 6 foot 8 south african kevin anderson and 9th seed john isner in the other men's semi final. on wednesday anderson stunned the tennis world when he knocked the king of wimbledon, eight—time champion roger federer, out of the tournament in their quarter—final clash. ? in doing so he joined an exclusive club coming back from two sets down towin in five sets, winning the decider 13—11. —— to win in five sets. it really was impressive. kevin anderson has so was impressive. kevin anderson has so far accumulated the most hours so far at wimbledon. it has been such an impressive campaign for him. it
will be a case of giant—killing fid john isner later. studio: isil kevin anderson in action in the first week of wimbledon and it was something to behold. he is enormous, you cannot ca ptu re behold. he is enormous, you cannot capture it on television. thank you, holly. one thing you can say about donald trump — he neverfails to speak his mind. and that's exactly what he's done after landing in the uk yesterday and having dinner with the prime minister. the president has said that because of theresa may's new brexit strategy, the uk probably won't get a trade deal with the united states. he's said she didn't listen to his advice over how to negotiate our exit from the eu. and he topped it off by saying boris johnson would make a great prime minister. he also criticised sadiq khan's record as london mayor and the protests against his visit. today, he'll be away from those protests, spending time with theresa may at chequers and having tea with the queen at windsor. it's hard to imagine how that conversation with the prime minister will go today, after president trump's comments.
let's hear them now. this is the president, in conversation with the political editor of the sun newspaper, tom newton—dunn, talking about our prospects of a trade deal with the us if the latest suggested terms for brexit are implemented. after that, there was what some are calling a humiliating assessment of theresa may's negotiating strategy. "she didn't listen to me," said president trump. and then when asked about borisjohson, who resigned as foreign secretary over the prime minister's brexit tactics, there was this. the president was very critical of the london mayor also. you have a mayor who has done a terriblejob in london, he has done a terriblejob. if terriblejob in london, he has done a terrible job. if you terriblejob in london, he has done a terriblejob. if you look terriblejob in london, he has done a terrible job. if you look at the terrorism that has taken place, look at what is going on in london, i think he has done a terrible job. but i think that all of this... giving his response to the bbc this morning, the london mayor sadiq khan said he was not going to lose sleepover those comments. i'm not going to get involved in a ding—dong with president trump about his views with me. today, london and
tomorrow in london, there are protests taking place. today, protests taking place. today, protests against president trump and his politics and his policies and what he stands for, tomorrow in london, there will be protests from extreme far right groups and also from those who are pro—trump supporters. the key thing is these protests are allowed and they must ta ke protests are allowed and they must take place in a peaceful manner and i hope they good spirited and it important we realise the freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to protest. those rights we share with the us and one of the reasons why we have a special relationship with the us is the things we have in common, and those values include bridgman protest and of speech. but the idea that i would stop a macro or a balloon flying over london because it may cause offence and curtail the rights people how to protest when it is not u nsafe people how to protest when it is not unsafe or peaceful, people would find that a bit astonishing. let's ta ke find that a bit astonishing. let's take a look what is happening
in parliament square. sadiq khan was talking about the trump baby blimp, opponents have inflated that blimp that depicts the us president, and you can see his diaper. he is seen as orange, a snarling baby, playing for the next couple of hours outside parliament and clutching a mobile phone although you cannot see it from that angle. the man who conducted that interview, tom newton—dunn, the sun's political editor, told us how his remarkable conversation with the president came about. well, we'd been talking for weeks with the white house and the embassy here in london, not really thinking we would stand much chance of getting this interview. with 24 hours to go, we got the call to say the president will see you. but it will be in brussels, in the midst of the nato summit on wednesday. so we hightailed out to brussels, we had a ten minute slot. it was in the embassy, the ambassador's residence there. a very posh, well appointed building it is, too.
we were told we had a ten minute slot. we went into the room. we had our little questions ready to go, and the game, as well you know, in these sorts of things, is try to get as many questions answered in the shortest possible time. so we were machine—gunning through them. at the ten minute appointed moment, sarah huckabee—saunders, his press secretary, said, that's it, last question. i think some ambassador was waiting to see him. to which trump said, no, no, no, we're going to give these guys a bit more time. and he kept on talking. he kept on talking for a total of 28 minutes. which obviously was terrific for us, we filled our notebooks. but i think it also reflects a bit more, a couple of things. a, he really does like britain. or he said he used to like britain, anyway. he cares a lot about this country, and he really cares what we think about him. and secondly, he has total power. nobody tells him what to say, nobody tells him off once he's said it.
and he'll say it for as long as he wants. so our interview was not interrupted again after that moment. it was an amazing experience, really. i felt like it was like being in the court of an imperial chinese emperor, but from the 15th century. the sheer total power that the man has is quite overcoming, really. the sun's political editor, tom newton dunn there. now, during the programme today, we're talking to people from all sides of the debate about what the visit means for the uk's relationship with the us. first, joining us from westminster is labour's shadow foreign secretary, emily thornberry. so many comments from president trump, it is difficult to know where to start, your reaction? yes, it is really difficult to know where to start, he has insulted us. we are his hosts. he has come to our country and before he arrived to see theresa may, he had that interview with the sun where he basically slapped us off and he had a go at her and he said that the brexit
negotiations were not going the right way and boris johnson negotiations were not going the right way and borisjohnson would make a great prime minister. just imagine what theresa may was thinking as she stood outside the birthplace of winston churchill, blenheim palace, with the guards and the red carpet and everything being done to get on the right side of him and he has said all of that. how appalling! did his mother teaching nothing? the rules are that you don't turn up and insult your host in the home. but there are no rules when it comes to president trump, he shoots from the hip, he is honest. and that is why the majority of americans voted from —— voted for him and put him in the white house, some would argue that is the honesty people want in this country from their politicians. the majority of votes were for hillary clinton, but it is there system. it is there a little system, let's not argue about that. he doesn't speak on behalf of american values, in my view, and
certainly not on behalf of british values. and theresa may holds his hand as he walks up the steps to blenheim palace. stop holding his hand, stand up to him, he is a bully, he only respect strength and you are showing yourself is incredibly weak! this is not the way. we are humiliated by this and we need to have a leader who will stand up to him. she has to show a bit of metal. we don't know she is not standing up to him behind closed doors. apart from the holding the hand and where he is cajun children on the mexican border and separating them from their parents and the rest of the world condemns him, what does theresa may say? well, i don't agree with that, that is not what we would do. really? look at the way angela merkel was talking to him and you see the photograph of her leaning over him and telling him exactly what was what and after that g—7 meeting where there was clearly a i’ow meeting where there was clearly a row and people did stand up to him, he gave people point out of ten in terms of how much he liked them. the
gave all kinds of leaders out of ten and theresa may, he forgot about her, he did not even give her one out of ten. that shows the approach and why it is wrong. your leader jeremy corbyn says we need to meet people who have opposing views. is it not important to me two —— to meet president trump and explain the views and brexit and who should leave —— read the united kingdom and have that conversation? of course we should have dialogue. i don't trust her to stand up to him when they are in private because she won't even do it in public. ijust don't believe that she is standing up to him. we don't know what goes on behind closed doors and we have to deal with president trump in the uk, so what is the tactic? you have called him an asteroid of awfulness, is that the way to deal with president trump, to throw insults at him? well, he is an asteroid of awfulness, he has brought in a
muslim ban, he insults and he gropes women. he is trying to undermine the world order. he has insulted our country. and what have we done? we may not technically have given him a state visit yet, but he has got a state visit yet, but he has got a state visit yet, but he has got a state visit and he has got tea with the queen, he has gone to blenheim palace, we are falling over ourselves to be as nice as we can in some desperate attempt to pursue the fa ntasy we some desperate attempt to pursue the fantasy we will get an american trade deal that will more than make up trade deal that will more than make upfor trade deal that will more than make up for leaving europe behind. this will not work. we do not put our trust in a man like this who is so irascible. let's talk about his comments and brexit because we know that labour party has signed up to brexit and president trump has said he wants a harder brexit, he gave his friend boris johnson, he wants a harder brexit, he gave his friend borisjohnson, the former foreign secretary, is a future leader. how wish you as foreign secretary if you are in that role engage with president trump when your party's views on brexit so far away? i would say to him, it is none
of your business. i would say to him that we are representing interests of britain as we best see it and as we best see it, we should remain close to the european union although we are leaving the european union and we need to have a proper trade deal which means being in a customs union and being close to the single market. but having changes in immigration. this is none of your business. we have good trading relationships with america anyway, in fact, the biggest investor in america from outside is britain. but you say you want a free trade agreement with us and yet you are setting off trade wars around the world and you say that too many foreign goods being imported into america, what is the evidence that you're serious about wanting trade deal at all? when you first elected, you said you would do it in a couple of days, which shows you don't understand a trade deal and how long it takes to negotiate. what about the london mayor sadiq khan, who has given permission for this trump ab
blimp to fly above london today, is that not antagonistic, is it going to upset president trump, is it unnecessary? the first amendment of their constitution is freedom of expression. i believe that, americans believe that, they are common values americans believe that, they are common values we americans believe that, they are common values we hold. many people disagree with donald trump and his politics. when i have a go at donald trump do not have a go at him about his hair, or on the basis of which porn stal e—mail may not have slept with. i am porn stal e—mail may not have slept with. iam having porn stal e—mail may not have slept with. i am having a go about his politics. and many you hear the things he has said about sadiq khan, saying he is a terrible mayor, look at all the terrorism, as if sadiq is responsible for terror risen. that is islamophobia and races and needs to be called out for what it is. ——
as if sadiq is responsible for terrorism. we are being inundated with comments from viewers. resident trim his only stating the obvious. g row trim his only stating the obvious. grow up, get over it and show more respect to a head of state. —— president trump is only. another person says wherewith the protests for the leaders of saudi arabia or turkey, there is no way president trump is worse or doing more harm than them? president trump has tried to tirop the iranians nuclear deal, a deal which would stop them building nuclear weapons for the next 20 years. he has torn that and will reduce sanctions against any company trading with iran. but is appalling. he has turned his back on the paris climate change agreement. the warming of the planet is our biggest challenge and he wants to disrupt that. he has moved the american embassy to jerusalem disrupt that. he has moved the american embassy tojerusalem and caused huge problems in the middle east. he is no longer taking any responsibility that any proper peace
process in that region, as far as i can see. he has been involved in the bombing of syria with no clear idea on what he wants to achieve or how he will achieve it. the man behaves like someone with no limits and does not think through what he is doing. he isa not think through what he is doing. he is a threat and we need to say to him we work together as one world, we need to think through what we do. you cannot wake up one morning and decide to do something unilaterally. we work together, that is how things are. thank you very much was speaking to us, emily thornberry. the foreign office minister sir alan duncan was a blenheim palace with the president last night and said he thought it was a great success. it was a fantastic evening and could not have been a better setting. the atmosphere was wonderful, the bands we re atmosphere was wonderful, the bands were great and the president of the prime minister got on very well. the
president lifted. he overstayed by an hourand president lifted. he overstayed by an hour and everybody was very, very pleased with the evening. —— the president loved it. when it comes to sitting down and discussing detail, it will cover the many areas in which we call operate so deeply. defence, the military, trade, intelligence. there are no two countries in the world, compared with the us and uk, who work as closely as we do. it is remarkable. the comments of one headline in the sun will not impede the success of what has been a well organised visit, coming as it does at a crucial moment between the nato summit in brussels the day before yesterday and yesterday and the planned visit to helsinki afterwards to see president putin. we asked to speak to a foreign office minister, but none was available. let's talk now to conservative mp nigel evans, labourmp stella creasy, guardian columnist and left—wing activist owenjones, and author and contributor
to spiked online magazine ella whelan. thank you all for coming in. we heard from emily thornberry, we have ruled out the red carpet for plus —— for president trump. he has been to blenheim palace. it is not a state visit, many people would say he looks like it. —— it looks like it. he has met the queen but he comes to oui’ he has met the queen but he comes to our country and insults us. we have just seen emily thornberry slag off the president of the usa. when the president went to france a few weeks ago, they rolled out the red carpet. why shouldn't we do the same? we have huge and close ties with the us over a long period, a $50 billion trade surplus with the us. and £80
billion deficit with the european union. if i have a problem with any world leaders it is the eu 27 who wa nt to world leaders it is the eu 27 who want to give us a very bad trade deal. so he can say whatever he likes, we will roll out the red carpet, theresa may will hold his hand and we will get on with it? he has two businesses in the uk, employing hundreds in scotland. he likes the uk, his mother was british. i have no problem... i have met president bush... sorry, president trump before he was president. i had a great conversation with him, he loves our country. i have a real problem with president obama, who flew over from the us and told us if we dared to vote to leave the eu we would be at the back of the trade deal. i don't remember owenjones the back of the trade deal. i don't remember owen jones and his the back of the trade deal. i don't remember owenjones and his mates taking to the streets of london... but that is the truth, it is what president trump said. emily
thornberry is telling him to mind his own business but is trying to tell him how to run his country, it is not right. what a hypocrite. he kicked off about barack obama interfering in the affairs of britain, then when his own government set up to donald trump, literally holding his hands, offer him a state visit faster than any president in the history of relations between the two countries, he comes over here, interferes in out he comes over here, interferes in our internal affairs, humiliate the prime minister and the government, appoint himself campaign manager for borisjohnson to be appoint himself campaign manager for boris johnson to be the appoint himself campaign manager for borisjohnson to be the next prime ministerand borisjohnson to be the next prime minister and uses the sort of dog whistle racist attacks on sadiq khan, linking him as a muslim to terrorism, that belong, frankly, to britain first, which is ironic because donald trump as re—tweeted racist values by the fascist organisation britain first. isn't that more reason for theresa may to talk to donald trump and have an
engagement, a conversation, to tell you that this is not the way britain views the world? this is a complete misnomer, we're saying the british government strategy of sucking up to donald trump has unbelievably... are we sucking up to donald trump? do we know that? i think things have gotten a little bit ridiculous, as much as the performance we saw blenheim palace, ithink much as the performance we saw blenheim palace, i think today will be another performance. we are expected to trash donald trump and emily thornberry has been outlined today. protest against trump should be welcomed and supported as part of freedom of speech, fair play to everybody who will be making their voice heard. but the fact is, specifically the idea he would have insulted our country, what he said about brexit, most brexiteers feel. i certainly feel theresa may has gonein i certainly feel theresa may has gone in the wrong direction. he is
making political points, yes, in a brash way. the thing that worries me and why i will not be on these protests is because it is a strange thing that we are painting trump as this evil baby, as a fascist, a 19305 style monster, when if you look at his politics, which i do not support and find condemnable, he is not an adoration. he is in a long line of us presidents who have been extremely anti—immigration, have caused mass, tragedy and destruction in the middle east. looking at him in relation to obama, obama got the red carpet, no protests, absolute plaudits and by the time he came on a state visit he had already bombed libya and afghanistan, deported hundreds of thousands of migrants. today smacks a little bit of historical inaccuracy, that is why i will not protest. stella? trump is
not unique, he isjust will not protest. stella? trump is not unique, he is just the will not protest. stella? trump is not unique, he isjust the most successful in the people we have in the world now peddling this grievance led politics. i think he isa grievance led politics. i think he is a lost cause, i do not think we will change his mind and i agree with owen, we are not standing up to him. whether it is on brexit, the children near the mexican border, the global gag rule where the government pulls its punches because it is desperate to be hand in glove with donald trump. what matters are the causes we stand for. i am in a bright pink t—shirt as part of the top trumps campaign in solidarity to people who will hear him and hear that type of language normalising hatred and division, here the islamophobia in his words and be concerned. our first concern should be the communities we represent. that type of politics will divide britain, it is dividing europe.
the frightened point is interesting. i think we overplay the danger posed by donald trump. that is not to say the fact his tweets can cause chaos in international politics should not be downplayed, i am not saying not to take him seriously, but i do not like the idea that before we had the protests that was the call to outright ban him from coming. the idea that this permit hand wonder will come in and absolutely distraught british politics, the far right will rise up on the streets and everything will change, most people will be doing what i am going to do and criticised his politics but cringe a little bit at the outpouring of emotion that i don't think most people in britain feel. you are right to talk about calamities unleashed on the world by successive us presidents. vietnam, iraq, libya. i march repeatedly against obama, i did not see you. i
was condemned by fox news, that was a challenging obama plasma drone programme which killed multiple innocent pakistani civilians, many of them children. but this is what makes him different, there was an ascendant far right and right supremacist movement and donald trump is somebody who calls white supremacists very fine people, he called for a total muslim ban and instituted a partial one. he has walked away from the paris climate agreements as the biggest polluter in humanity, the us, when climate change is the next essential threat. he has ripped in the nuclear deal with iran and says he wants to bomb iran. he talks about sexually abusing and sexually harassing women in language i literally cannot say oi'i in language i literally cannot say on national television. on saturday there will be fascists, as sadiq khan noted, they will be
marching in the streets, many holding placards and supportive donald trump. so are you saying he should be here, but what? i am confused. we are distracted by his theatrics and performance, but what he represents, the racism, bigotry, blaming of migrants, refugees and muslims for all injustices caused by the powerful, but former politics is oi'i the powerful, but former politics is on the march in britain, france, germany, austria. it is legitimised by donald trump in this country. the reality is we had to engage with him, he is president of the united states. how do we engage?” him, he is president of the united states. how do we engage? i have thousands of workers in my constituency from bae systems, we work on thejoint constituency from bae systems, we work on the joint straight fight it together. we have a $50 billion surplus with united states of america. i know stella and onr still
crying that hillary is not president... i am a hillary fan?! he is president, welcome to the united kingdom, we want to do lots of trade. it is ironic to hear a president who boasts of his immigrant background then tell us that immigration is a bad thing in europe, do you agree with him on that? is it ok to normalise that kind of language in our politics? let's look at germany, the number of people who have come into germany. that is why angela merkel is on the back foot and the alternative for deutschland is on the rise.|j back foot and the alternative for deutschland is on the rise. i think the problem is not immigration, it is politicians like as not getting our act together to plan the services properly. i wish i could be confident that people are not frightened, ella, but they are.|j wa nt frightened, ella, but they are.|j want to talk about honesty. he is at least honest. he says it how it is.
a lot of people in middle america, it connects. maybe mps need to be a bit more honest here. grabbing women by their genitalia, is that honesty?! he has talked about the foreign... forgotten people of america. people in our country need more challenges —— face more challenges from robots and romanians. i do not think he is honest, i think he is giving people a grievance, somebody to blame, and that divisive policy gives you anger, not answers. our country will be more divided when it needs to be united. the football team was a living embodiment of when people pull together, how proud they were. 24 or 48 hours a man is telling that immigration is dividing our nation, we should say that is not what we are, solidarity is the best thing about britain. we will be talking about britain. we will be talking about football in a few minutes. i am struggling to keep up with our viewers' comments about the visit.
many people supported. nicky says i am really pleased trump is here, his visit is long—awaited. it is a shame on the uk it has not happened before. these protesters have got trump all wrong, he is fantastic, going for world peace, he has the courage to speak the truth, i love him and his policies. he resonates, like it or not, with some people. people are fleeing war and persecution, what about those people who would lay down their lives for the country but he refuses to have them serve in the military because he doesn't like them gender status? baffling as an editorial decision, trump is slightly less popular and cholera, he is one of the most unpopular people on earth. not in the united states because he was rated to be president. we were talking about this country, you are reading messages from people in this
country, you know overwhelmingly people oppose what he stands for and think he is insulting and racist. you have got the demonstration later. where reading a representative sample. i am being com pletely representative sample. i am being completely far. i want to talk about sadiq khan. his decision to fly this trump baby blimp, he has said it is 0k trump baby blimp, he has said it is ok and he has given permission, is this antagonising donald trump, particularly because we know best argument has been going on for a couple of years? i don't mind when having the blimp flying over parliament square, it is a legitimate demonstration and i have i'io legitimate demonstration and i have no problem with that, donald is not going to see it, he will be flying in an opposite direction so get on with it. but there is a real problem with it. but there is a real problem with knife crime in london and you said president trump says it as he sees it and quite frankly, that isn't issue and i do want to see the mayor of london focusing on making
the streets of london a much safer place —— the streets of london a much safer place — — bett the streets of london a much safer place —— bett is an issue. the streets of london a much safer place -- bett is an issue. are you co mforta ble place -- bett is an issue. are you comfortable with how trump make that islam are phobic attack on sadiq khan terrorism, are you comfortable with defending that is not calling that out? you are better than that, britain is better than that! come on! americans and british people said to be similar people divided by a common language, it sometimes comes out and it seems to be worse thanit comes out and it seems to be worse than it currently is. he says it in a way in painting pictures and i am oi'i a way in painting pictures and i am on the record of saying i don't agree... iembrace on the record of saying i don't agree... i embrace the diversity. just to be clear. you don't think sadiq khan is responsible for terrorism? no, i don't think sadiq khan is responsible for terrorism, of course not. i do believe we need to focus on the knife crime that exists in the country, the acid
attacks taking place on our streets, it is less safe in london today than it is less safe in london today than it was two, three years ago. thank you so much forjoining us this morning. ina you so much forjoining us this morning. in a moment, we will talk about england's world cup experience, but staying with this picture of that blimp. orange, flying over parliament square. the president is not in london, he has taken off in his helicopter down the road at the us ambassador's residence in regents park and he is heading for the army academy at sandhurst for an event between the us and the uk military. stay with us throughout the morning for the coverage on what is happening, as well as protests in london and elsewhere. england may not be bringing the world cup home,but there's a profound sense that its performance up to the semi—final has changed perceptions around what it means to be a supporter. the team fielded young — in some cases, very young —
and diverse, reflecting what many have said is the best of modern society. so, does that diversity mean that the uk's ethnic minorities have embraced their english identity, and that england supporters have embraced diversity? with me in the studio is lord ouseley, who founded kick it out in 1993, and muhbeen hussain, a lifelong football fan. we can also speak tojohn barnes, who played for england between 1983—1995 and suffered racist abuse. and mani pillai, a football fan with indian heritage. thank you forjoining us this morning. john, i want to speak with you first. how much do you think the performance and the team selection at this world cup for england has made a difference to football fans
from different backgrounds coming together and being proud of that england shirt? first, thank you very much for having me on the show, i have been listening and i wish i was on the previous discussion! hearing that donald trump is going to sandhurst, my father went to sandhurst, my father went to sandhurst and i don't know what donald trump would think about a jamaican at sandhurst. and when that gentleman said english and american people share a common language and culturally they are very similar, sadiq khan is english, is he not? that is the big problem. going on to football, it depends on our perception of who is different. the question we are discussing is the diverse nature of english football which has been around since the 19805. which has been around since the 1980s. when i played for england in 1983, there was myself mitchell thomas, mark chamberlain and others, this team is no more diverse, the
difference is the public response to the english team. what we called this diverse english team is nothing new, black players have played for england, lots of them. more black players played when i played. the difference is the response is has two those black players, not that there are more black players or ethnic minority players. society has changed, the nature of the team has not changed. the abuse that myself and luther blissett suffered is to do with the perception of who we were. the team is no more diverse now, society has changed and opinion. people will remember the horrifying stories of bananas being thrown at you. levels of racist abuse that gave shocking. thrown at you. levels of racist abuse that gave shockingm thrown at you. levels of racist abuse that gave shocking. it was not shocking back then, nobody batted an eyelid and people who shopped now we re eyelid and people who shopped now were around back then, i don't know why they were not shocked back then. society has overtly changed its opinion. but that is no more bananas
run the field does not mean that is no more racism in society. all you have to do is not throw bananas. we have to do is not throw bananas. we have to do is not throw bananas. we have to change our perception on people we think are different and not keep our mouths shut. there is not keep our mouths shut. there is no more of it racism in terms of an honours or racial abuse but we still have a long more —— we still have a long way to go. would you agree with john? i would long way to go. would you agree with john? iwould not long way to go. would you agree with john? i would not compare myself to john, john has a lifelong experience in this game. i think one thing that makes it a lot easier is when society and racism changes, it gives young diverse people a chance to go forward as well. it takes the negativity of wanting to play because i know many young people who could not do what john because i know many young people who could not do whatjohn had because i know many young people who could not do what john had to go through to break those barriers to get to where we are today. it was not that the bigots went away because they are still there. we have the king bob gets flying into the uk today, donald trump. —— the king of bigots. when gareth
southgate gave opportunity to young players, he gave hope and inspiration a chance. it was not that people were saying, go back home, to ethnic minorities, they we re home, to ethnic minorities, they were saying, it's coming home. that is the change but it doesn't mean we have gone anywhere, we have just got inspiration and we have to pass that throughout society. inspiration and we have to pass that throughout societylj inspiration and we have to pass that throughout society. i can see that you are not in the way, mani. the public response to this english foot ball public response to this english football team has been very positive but we should never forget the culture gareth southgate and his coaching staff have created. a culture where the players have been allowed to express themselves on and off the pitch. the players have talked about the myriad of issues. they have talked about mental health issues, struggling through personal and professional challenges to be where they are. they have talked about homebirths, bricks and stones, they have talked about their families. —— homebirths, for
instance. many of us can find connection with that. sol instance. many of us can find connection with that. so i think the culture that has been created this time has been one that has opened up and allowed everybody to think that england is for all of us and it is notjust for any england is for all of us and it is not just for any one group. but we can all identify, we can all find something in common that we have something in common that we have something in common with the english identity. so credit needs to go to southgate and his team and the fa in general. you have worked for a long time and kick it out to get rid of racism in football, lord ouseley, how much has gareth southgate and the team moved up forward at this world cup? as john barnes has said, this issue has been around a long time. it is the challenging of the negativity associated within
blackness in football that has brought about a change. so the pressure on the institutions, and the clubs, on the academies, the coaching staff and changing their outlook and help they are managing people. and what gareth has been able to do on the basis of that long experience is to bring a freshness, in terms of leading and managing people, and connecting that with fans. that is what we are seeing now. but it is over a long period of campaigning, putting pressure, training and changing the culture internally and recognising we have to have a connection, against a background where racism is prevalent in society, with issues of exclusion. look at the coaching staff, only one black coach was representing the fraternity across the world cup and we have to see consistent and persistent changes, we have to see that diversity reflected at all levels. so the progress out of what has happened has now got to be seen to be getting
right into the depth of football in all its assets to make sure we hold onto that and it will make a long lasting difference. do you think that young ethnic minorities in england, muhbeen, now feel they can wear the england shirt with pride, they can fly the england flag with pride? join this world cup, we have seen a lot of people, the people i have spoken to, they do feel a bit more comfortable —— join this world cup. that was down to gareth southgate's team and we have not seen that previously but that doesn't mean racism has gone away and we can't forget the type of racism raheem sterling faces every day and the attacks he faced from the sun which no other player based. racism exists and one thing we have to differentiate, racism exists within society and within institutions and football is a cause to bring people together as we have
seen. but football cannot bring this country together with hope or inspiration will stop it as a starting point, we cannot hold hands with donald trump and expect gareth southgate and his team to win this country together. one thing we have got, we have seen through gareth southgate, it is when people can perform and deliver and they are proud to wear that shirt, we as a nation proud of them whether they are players on the pitch, doctors and hospitals, police officers on the streets, and that is the kind of nation desolation and english nationalism we need to believe in. john barnes, there is a message, john barnes, there is a message, john barnes, there is a message, john barnes, so eloquent on race, trump and football! thank you very much. libby to say, listening to the callers talking about the effect gareth southgate has had. i have been watching images of treason and places around the country and we have seen ethnic minorities with england shirts —— images of croydon. that is nothing to do with what gareth southgate has done, it is
because society has changed because the society did not change and you have black and ethnic minorities wearing inward shirts and society's response would have been the same as 20 years ago in terms of them feeling uncomfortable and threatened and even beaten up, they would not have won those shirts. ethnic minorities have always supported england and wanted england to do well but they have not felt co mforta ble well but they have not felt comfortable in an open atmosphere when it was accepted that violence and racism happens, so gareth southgate has not change that, society has made people fill co mforta ble society has made people fill comfortable enough to do that. gareth southgate has just picked black players as bobby robson did and terry venables, society has made people feel more comfortable. thank you all for coming in. coming up... donald trump has repeatedly denied claims he's a bully, but is he a sex pest? he's been accused of sexually inappropriate behaviour by more than 20 women,
but he says they're all liars. we'll hear the view of a former model, who met mr trump at a party in new york in the late 1980s. shejoins me in the next hour. and we find out what some americans make up their president's unique and controversial style, the scandal of his past and his visit to the uk. let's get the latest weather update, with simon king. afairamount of a fair amount of cloud this morning, but it is breaking up and you can see in greater london, sunshine will stop some others woke up to some rain this morning, some welcome rain for the gardens. that is in cumbria. the satellite image shows you this massive cloud, the remnants of hurricane chris. moving north and west and providing cloud and rain for north—western areas over the weekend. for now, we have showers in the forecast. very much hit and miss. for many, it stays dry into the afternoon with increasing sunshine. the showers, if you get
hit by one, could be heavy and torrential. southern scotland and southern and north west england, east wales and central and southern parts of england. if you get caught ina parts of england. if you get caught in a shower, there is a lot of rain ina in a shower, there is a lot of rain in a short space of time so there could be localised flash flooding with those thunderstorms, something to bear in mind. away from that, sunshine and it will feel quite warm. maximum temperature is up to 22,26, warm. maximum temperature is up to 22, 26, 27 degrees. even the low 20s further north. this evening and tonight, showers rumbling on for a while before finally clearing the way. clear spells for england and wales into saturday morning, but we see a bit more cloud and rain starting to move into the far north west of scotland and the west of wales. that is associated with the weather system on the satellite imagery, moving in and we have opened the door into atlantic weather systems moving in.
high—pressure holding on across southern areas as we go through the weekend, but what it also does is bring in much milder, warmer, hot air, especially across eastern parts of england. this is saturday. rain for the far north west of scotland, west of northern ireland, cloudier skies. for inland and wales. showers eastern - initially but skies. for inland and wales. showers easte|and r’rfnitially'but 7 ~ mr” 7 skies. for inland and wales. showers easte|and even itially'but 7 ~ mr” 7 skies. for inland and wales. showers easte|and even itiéaetlaed ~ mr” é
of america, we had to respect the office and, quite frankly, if you're watching, welcome to the uk, we want to do lots of trade with america. his government suck up to donald trump, literally holding his hands, offer him a state visit faster than any president in the history of relations between our countries. he comes over year, interferes in our internal affairs, humiliate the prime minister and the government. and as anti—trump protesters gather in central london for a day of marches, we'll have all the latest on the president's visit. we've seen a lot of britons are unhappy with the us president, but what do americans make of donald trump's unique and often controversial style, the scandals and his visit to the uk? we'll speak some of them and we will hear from two former models who allege that the president behaved inappropriately with them at parties in the 80s. hello and welcome if
you'rejustjoining us. this morning protestors are gathering just down the road from here for an anti—trump march. we'll be speaking to some of them — are you one of them? have this morning's developments made you decide to change your plans and join a protest, or do you think protesting is pointless, disrespectful, a waste of time? do get in touch — use the hashtag #victorialive. we have had so many messages this morning already! and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. but first — donald trump's extraordinary intervention in the brexit debate. the president has said that because of theresa may's new brexit strategy, the uk probably won't get a trade deal with the united states. this is the president, in conversation with the political editor of the sun newspaper, tom newton—dunn. after that, there was
what some are calling a humiliating assessment of theresa may's negotiating strategy. "she didn't listen to me!" that is what president trump said. and then when asked about borisjohson, who resigned as foreign secretary over the prime minister's brexit tactics, there was this. our political correspondent jonathan blake is in westminster — but let's go first to our north america correspondent
gary o'donoghue, who's at the us ambassador's residence in regent's park where the trumps stayed last night. gary, it is quite a day ahead, quite an awkward day? certainly. it has been made 100 times more awkward by this intervention this morning by the president. it is always bridgey and predictable what will happen when the president puts himself in a room with another world leader —— it is always pretty unpredictable. you never quite know what he will say or do but he has set the scene for an awkward discussion between himself and the prime minister at chequers later, and a lunch, and then they will have to stand side by side at a press co nfe re nce will have to stand side by side at a press conference and answer those questions. he left here about an hour ago en route to sandhurst, the officers training academy, to see a joint exercise between uk and us
forces. he did not say anything, i am told there was a fist pump before he got on his chopper to surrey, then he will head to chequers. his words have really thrown a spanner in the works to this visit, they will have been praying for something smoother, frankly for some supportive words from the president to theresa may's position. a delicate position within her own party and in terms of negotiations with the eu. and effectively he has cut her off at the knees, any sense. let's bring in our political correspondentjonathan let's bring in our political correspondent jonathan blake. what is the reaction in westminster? presumably shock initially, but what is the forecast? his comments in that interview have left government ministers scrambling to suggest things are not as bad as he suggests. the prospect of a future trade deal with the is not dead, as
the us president seem to make out. the foreign office minister said it was just speaking in the foreign office minister said it wasjust speaking in his own in conventional style and we should not see it as root, the international trade secretary liam fox said the atmosphere dinner last night was very special and it was great to hear the president talking so enthusiastically about trade between the us and uk. chancellor philip hammond said that the president has not had chance to read the white paper and he predicts a positive discussion between theresa may and donald trump later, and brexit is an opportunity for more free—trade deals with different countries around the world. not everyone is putting a spin on it, the university minister sam kaymer has asked where are your manners, mr president? thank you for bringing that updates from westminster, we are getting so many comments this morning about
president trump's visit to the uk. paula says president trump is welcome in the uk. i am appalled this country is showing so much disrespect to the president of the us, it is embarrassing. they are our strongest ally and friend and he deserves respect. there are many trump supporters in the uk, i am one of them. trump is so much more welcome than that idiot sadiq khan. another viewers says that president trump isa another viewers says that president trump is a good president for his country. protests are childish and those taking part are narrow—minded and should be shown the full picture. i am ashamed and want to say not in my name. many people supporting donald trump, maureen says donald trump has the nerve to criticise the uk that has done nothing about his own gun laws. he needs to be reminded here is the president of the us, not the free world, we have our own government. bob says if donald trump thinks the
uk should be out of europe, it is a clear indicator to me that the best option is to stay firmly within europe. we will get as many comments as we can through the morning. use the hashtag #victorialive if you wa nt to the hashtag #victorialive if you want to get in touch, if you text you will be charged at the normal network rate. holly hamilton is that the bbc sports centre. good morning. serena williams is into her tenth wimbledon final just ten months after giving birth. an incredible story. she came through her semi—final againstjulia goerges in straight sets as she looks to win her 24th grand slam title and tie margaret court's all—time record. it's quite an achievement considering the health problems she had after giving birth to her daughter last september. i had a really tough delivery, and, you know, i had to have multiple surgeries, and almost didn't make it, to be honest. and so i remember i couldn't even walk to my mailbox, so it's definitely not normal for me to be in the wimbledon final. so i'm taking everything as it is, and just enjoying every moment.
hard to believe she was pregnant this time last year! she'll face angelique kerber in the final tomorrow after she beat jelena 0stapenko in straight sets and at number11. she's the highest seed left in the tournament after so many of the top seeds were knocked out in the opening week. it's the turn of the men this afternoon. up first is the man who knocked out roger federer, kevin anderson — he plays americanjohn isner on centre court. follwing that it's a repeat of the 2011 final between rafael nadal and novak djokovic. it will be the 52nd time they have played each other in all competitions — that is more than any other men in the open era. nadal will be looking to cement his place as the best player in the world — while djokovic is attempting to show everyone that despite a rather slow return from injury, he's truly back in top form. former british number one tim henman is backing nadal.
for me, nadal is the favourite. djokovic has had problems on and off the court over the last couple of years, he is back playing some really good tennis. physically he looks good, technically he looks good. mentally, he has the fire in his belly but i feel that dealing with adversity is the challenge when things are not going his way, whether he will be able to do that today. they may have lost in the semi—final, but the world cup is not over for england. tomorrow, they face belgium in the third—place playoff. all 23 players of gareth southgate's squad are in training this morning, but there are expected to be changes to the team who face belgium, which kicks off at 3pm on saturday in st petersberg. england's cricketers began their one—day series against india with a heavy defeat at trent bridge. they managed only 268 with the bat. the tourists comfortably
reached their target with ten overs remaining. rohit sharma scoring an unbeating 137. they face each other again on saturday. that's all the sport for now. plenty of action this weekend. donald trump denied claims he was a bully, but is he a sex pest? that was the focus of a bbc panorama documentary this week, ahead of the president s visit to the uk. trump has been accused of sexually inappropriate behaviour by more than 20 women, but he has dismissed them all as liars. former model barbara pilling met donald trump at a party in new york, in the late—1980s. she claims she felt like she was in the presence of a shark. heather braden was also at parties with donald trump, and said it felt like a meat market. we can speak to barbara pilling and heather braden. thank you both for speaking to me
today. i want to start with you barbara, if you can. you were quite young the first time you met donald trump ata young the first time you met donald trump at a party? yes. what happened? i was attending a party because i was requested to go to an event by my agency at the time, my model management. it was just really casually, when i was at the agency, they said it would be lots of clients and photographers there and they would send a card with maibuca, my manager, we would go and mingle a little bit and it would not have to bea little bit and it would not have to be a long time and it was just good press or networking. so when did you meet donald trump? we were at this party. there were people there that
we re party. there were people there that were connected, industry photographers and different clients and what have you. i was just talking to another girl and he captained to come up, about half an hour after i had been at the party —— he happened to come up. he made his way to me and ijust remember looking up from who i was speaking to and he was there and he was looking me up from my toes and coming down to my chest area. he was kind of staring at my chest and speaking to me. that was right off the bat a little strange, because he was eyeing me up. the first thing he ever said to me, he was like, wow, look at you, you look like you could be marilyn monroe, but you are a brunette, would you ever go blonde?
i was just baffled. i didn't even answer, i was just like... i was just baffled. i didn't even answer, iwasjust like... i i was just baffled. i didn't even answer, i wasjust like... i think i was shocked and i did not know what to say. and he continued to look me up to say. and he continued to look me up and down and he said so how old are you? i said i am 17. he said, oh, that is perfect, you are not too old, not too young, a good age to be. i was like, wow. old, not too young, a good age to be. iwas like, wow. how did old, not too young, a good age to be. i was like, wow. how did that make you feel, as a 17—year—old girl, effectively, being spoken to like this by a man in his 40s? i have not recognised him, i was very knowledgeable and looking at magazines and finding out about photographers and i was like, who is this guy? i had no idea at the time of who he was. and then he said that andi of who he was. and then he said that
and i was kind of taken aback. i felt kind of like, this is weird. main tuition was starting to kick in. and he touched a waitress? while i was standing there, the waitress, would not call her a waitress, she was a caterer at a party. she had on a black and white uniform and she looked really nice. and she came over with some fruits of sinn fein and she offered us some and donald said, no, thanks. and he goes, you wa nt said, no, thanks. and he goes, you want a said, no, thanks. and he goes, you wanta drink? said, no, thanks. and he goes, you want a drink? —— she came over with some sinn fein. and then he said to her, thanks, whatever her name was, and gave her bottle a little smack as she walked away and she kind of laughter like it was a common thing and he said, don't worry, that's not your tip. i want to bring in
heather, you met donald trump at a different party. this was the 90s and the 2,000 and when you are model, you are expected to go to networking events and as a professional model, we did it all the time and most of them legitimate but they were the bad players in the industry that occasionally somehow made their way in and they threw events and somehow managed to, i don't know, make sure that models showed up. this one particular party really stood out to me to this day. i probably remember it better than anything because it was a night that i had anything because it was a night that ihada anything because it was a night that i had a little bit of an argument with a young agent at my agency who said that i had to go to this party. isaid,| said that i had to go to this party. i said, i do want to go to this party. no, you have to go to this party. no, you have to go to this party. —— i do not want to go. when your agency controls your money and ability to make money and pay rent or support family or if you are foreign with the visa, you do what
that agency says. i was not happy andl that agency says. i was not happy and i went to the party in a car service, and miami, and star island, on the same row of homes where there are a lot of celebrity homes. what happens when you met trump? i was in this party and we came in the store and it was 50 girls and myself. and trump and three a list academy award—winning actors. these four men which included trump, paraded through the room and they would come to us here and there, they divided and split apart as they went to go and split apart as they went to go and chat with us. eventually, he came around and there was no music festival atmosphere, it was very unusual. we were on presentation, so to speak, in this mansion, under the guise of a forced party where we we re guise of a forced party where we were basically kind of decorations for these men, these four men to pick through. did he speak to you?
he did, he spoke to me. he came over and he is a professional man, he knows how to behave when he needs to. it was all very proper and eloquent and this was not like a raging cup type scene, this was more ofa raging cup type scene, this was more of a quiet cocktail and private mansion. he came over and he was asking me two minutes of obligatory conversation, hello, how are you, where you from ? conversation, hello, how are you, where you from? that is nice, do you wa nt where you from? that is nice, do you want to come upstairs and see upstairs for a few minutes? ijust kind of looked at him and i was like, no, idon't kind of looked at him and i was like, no, i don't think so. i was quite streetsmart for my age, i was my 205 and had done this seven years and had had lots of rich, powerful men who stand around and track models and they hone in on us. men who stand around and track models and they hone in on usm clearly made you both feel uncomfortable, at your experiences meeting donald trump. both of you, do you feel, heather, he is fit to be president? i mean, ithink
do you feel, heather, he is fit to be president? i mean, i think that politics aside, his personality, knowing him for ten years at parties in new york, he was a standard in these parties, in this world of younger girls these parties, in this world of youngergirls and these parties, in this world of younger girls and much older men. and of course, in an industry where there is a legitimate but also other side and the dockside is what people need to know about. is that a yes or no, he is fit to be president?” don't know if anyone is any better or worse than him. i don't know that i think his personality and his persona asjust who i think his personality and his persona as just who i i think his personality and his persona asjust who i know him i think his personality and his persona as just who i know him to i think his personality and his persona asjust who i know him to be should be. barbara, yes or no, is he fit to be president? it's harvey weinstein bit to be president? i do not see a difference in the two men. clearly, harvey weinstein has been charged with offences and president trump has not. let's be clear on that. thank you both so much,
heather and barbara. coming up... anti—trump protesters are gathering for marches later today. we'll talk to people protesting, and also, those who support the american president. theresa may and mr trump watching thejoint to theresa may and mr trump watching the joint to exercise at sandhurst. there were ben travel to chequers for talks with foreign secretary jeremy hunt. —— they will then travel. we have heard what you think and politicians. what do americans make of their president's unique and controversial style, the scandals surrounding him, and his visit to the uk? let's talk to sarah elliot, the chair of republicans overseas, horowitz satlin, from the huffington post, inge kjemtrup, the chair
of democrats abroad the democratic party's official body for the americans living outside the us, amy pope a former advisor to president barack obama, and marianne schneider—petsinger, a fellow of the us programme at chatham house. what a busy so fat! thank you so much for coming in. i guess we have to start by talking about these explosive comments which have come out today with this interview president trump has done with the sun newspaper. sarah, do you think this is disrespectful, this is helpful at the beginning of a trip to the uk? his comments on brexit? his comments on everything. sadiq khan, no trade deal, so much to get into. everyone was prepared for it to be unpredictable, for him to be unpredictable. i think this is very much in the tradition of trump's presidency. i think he was looking
forward to establishing the beginnings of a free—trade deal with the prime minister, but her white paper has come out and it doesn't look like it is very likely he will be able to do that. so i think he was disappointed they could not further that along in the process. inge, did he go about it the right way? i don't know, buti inge, did he go about it the right way? i don't know, but i can tell you donald trump is the world's worst guest. he arrives late, he insults the host, he makes fun of the guests. it is sort of a shocking amount of behaviour we have seen for americans like me and for my fellow americans like me and for my fellow americans overseas, it is something we really accustomed to seeing. there is a lot of bluster and you have to see is that people have to make up for the things he says later. i have to say, am not surprised, it isjust a pattern of what we have seen before. you nodding. i don't think it is the most helpful way to begin a relationship, that is incredibly important the united states.
relationship, that is incredibly important the united states]! important the united states. is it important? lots of people in the uk will wonder whether that is an important relationship. given his comments, one might wonder, but in reality, the united kingdom is an important voice for the united states in europe. we agree with the united kingdom on a range of issues from security to defence, to environmental issues. and there is a range of places where the us and the uk have been able to form a really important alliance that is ultimately in the best interests of the united states. amy, this is a different approach that president trump has adopted. compared to barack obama. to add to amy's comments on the special relationship, let's not forget the strong human —— economic ties binding the us and the uk together. it is the seventh largest trading partner for the united states, it is the seventh largest trading partnerfor the united states, but for the partnerfor the united states, but forthe uk, partnerfor the united states, but for the uk, the united states is the biggest export countries so there is a strong economic partnership and a
potential free—trade deal between in the united states and united kingdom would further strengthen us. it is not off the table yet but this is pa rt not off the table yet but this is part of trump's negotiation tactics. he is throwing this grenade into the meeting with theresa may to throw the united kingdom of balance and potentially extract concessions down the line in future negotiations. so this is almost like the north korea strategy, alana ? this is almost like the north korea strategy, alana? in the sense it is rocket man and suddenly we are having a meeting and we are friends. i would not say it is much of a strategy so much as just trump being trump. we have seen this time and time again when he comes into a diplomatic meeting of sorts, he throws a proverbial bomb into the mix and creates situations and sort of solves it by something was already there. he did that with nato and with north korea. with nato,
those meetings did not get anything concrete but he proclaimed them to be victories. but i expect something similarto happen be victories. but i expect something similar to happen out of this meeting and the thing about theresa may is that she is in a really weak position right now, so she has, she really needs is help, and so she has an interest in sort of letting him get away with all of that. how much interest is there in the united states watching this visit, how much coverage will it get?” states watching this visit, how much coverage will it get? i think it is getting far more coverage here in the uk. last night, iwas getting far more coverage here in the uk. last night, i was going through papers in the midwest. it was not hitting the front page of many papers. people can much more about the opioid crisis and what is happening with the economy. it is not going to resonate in the same way. that is dangerous because they do believe the us and the uk have so much they can do that is very productive and in the best interests of both countries, so there is real
value in understanding why this relationship matters. inge, do you think that president trump is going to be bothered, affected by what we expect to be large—scale protests turning out? that is a good question and my real interest is the audience of americans who know, you have to find out that is mid terms to voting. whether he is upset by seeing a giant balloon floating as there has been or whether he is going to be upset by the numbers and, as we know, he is not into crowd numbers. that is difficult to say. but what i am interested in is those people here who need to know that we have got mid—term elections, that we have got mid—term elections, thatis that we have got mid—term elections, that is important, and what is important about that is that we can have a real opposition by electing a democratic house and that is going to make the difference. so whether he is upset or not, i am indifferent. i would like to think that he knows and my understanding is he knows the numbers and, by gosh, he has got a fence around him so here are just so he can protect
to —— so he can be protected. so here are just so he can protect to -- so he can be protected. that is part of the strategy, i think he knew for a long time there would be stronger position, he has got really wea k stronger position, he has got really weak numbers in the uk in general with 11% of people thinking he is a good president. so many people have got in touch this morning. that is anecdotal. i get that, but we are getting a lot of supportive messages. yes, but that is a large country and that is an anecdotal suggestion. polling shows 67% of people think he is doing a bad or terriblejob as people think he is doing a bad or terrible job as president and he knew going in he had tensions and he publicly attacked the mayor of london, he had tensions with theresa may and people were not happy about the britain first tweets so he knew he would not be popular in london and he deliberately circumvented the city as much as possible. sarah, do you think he will be upset
at the scale of protests we are expecting? i can't say. to be honest, i think he'd expected. does he thrive on it? i think he kind of does, when his detractors come at him he doubled stone. they're almost daily protests at his house, the white house. this is very common for the president, but i find they are very disproportionate to any crime he has allegedly committed. he may bea he has allegedly committed. he may be a surly character but he has not broken any laws. the supreme court has upheld his travel ban and it was the ninth circuit court that upheld the ninth circuit court that upheld the detention centre for children, separating the families at the border. you need to commit a crime to be the subject of protests?! you don't, but this size, the president of china got is dave phillips demagogue is at buckingham —— the
president of china got a state visit at buckingham palace. does the scale of protests make you cross? because i know it does not represent the entire nation, i know it represents the far left in this city in particular... i don't think it is the far left, to be honest. have you listened —— the far left, to be honest. have you listened -- have you listened to the cup tie. trump coalition? but 68% of cup tie. trump coalition? but 6896 of the country disapprove, but is not the country disapprove, but is not the far left, lots of tories disapprove as well. i think you have made a great point is that the us has hosted much more condemnable figures than donald trump, for sure, but that is separate to the point, it is time gentle. people expect a diplomatic relationship... yes,
here'sa diplomatic relationship... yes, here's a machismo guy, why are people getting upset about that rather than erdogan, who has killed people? he is pushing away key allies, the fact he would go into nato and people were not quite sure where he would end up. the fact he is coming to the uk and we are not sure if that will be positive for the uk or us. the fact he has been touting the meeting with putin is the easiest thing on his agenda, that should really trouble people, it is about more than trump, it is about american political and strategic interest, which is where we need to keep our eye.” strategic interest, which is where we need to keep our eye. i think it isa we need to keep our eye. i think it is a lot of headlines and hysteria, but i like to focus on what he is doing. we have north korea at the table... i am so glad you brought that up, i think what he is doing is lots of the reason people are protesting, it is notjust the rhetoric. i am sorry to jump in
protesting, it is notjust the rhetoric. i am sorry tojump in but we had to speak to some protesters soon, and who are gathering outside, and we have so much to cover. still to come... thousands of people are gathering for anti—trump protests. we'll be amongst the crowds and speaking to some of those taking part. and we'll bring you the latest on donald trump's first visit to the uk as us president. after a black—tie affair overnight, his itinerary today includes watching a joint counter—terrorism exercise by british and us special forces, and a meeting with the foreign secretary in chequers. time for the latest news. here's rachel schofield. the bbc news headlines this morning... the government has insisted that president trump's visit to the uk is going well, despite mr trump saying that theresa may's brexit plans would "probably kill" any prospect of a trade deal with the us. the president — seen here with the us ambassador this morning — openly criticised mrs may for the manner in which she had conducted brexit negotiations
in an interview with the sun newspaper. later today mr trump and mrs may will watch a joint counter—terrorism exercise by british and us special forces at a military base, before travelling to the prime minister's country residence for talks. a number of major airports in the uk are failing to meet the needs of disabled passengers, that's according to a new report by the civil aviation authority. among them, manchester airport was given the lowest possible ‘poor‘ rating. some passengers on incoming flights were left waiting on planes for more than an hour before assistance arrived. it says it is now working with the caa to make improvements. police in londonderry say there were "prolonged and sustained attacks" on police officers throughout the night in the city. two improvised explosive devices and 74 petrol bombs were thrown at police landrovers. three men have been arrested, one for attempted murder. last night was the sixth night
of trouble in derry. the government should do more to help police officers dealing with the recent nerve agent poisonings in amesbury and salisbury — that's according to the police and crime commissioner for wiltshire. angus macpherson says he had been assured by ministers that the current situation was under review. however, he said rest days and annual leave had been cancelled, and a new approach was now needed. a group of volunteer british divers who helped save 12 boys and their football coach, who were trapped in a cave in thailand, have arrived back in the uk. speaking to reporters at heathrow airport they said they weren't heroes butjust a group of people who had a unique set of skills. this is completely uncharted, unprecedented territory. nothing like this has been done. so, of
course there were doubts, but i knew we had a good team with good support from the thai authorities and the national caving community and rescue organisations, so we had the best we could do to make a plan work.l greatjob. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. now sport, with holly. coming up, it might be the worst kept secret in football but chelsea have officially confirmed the departure of antonio conte. he leaves after just two years at the club, having
won the premier league in 2017, but failed to repeat that success last season, with the blues slipping to fifth. in a brief statement, chelsea say they wish him every success in his future career. that news will be far from the england squad's minds — all 23 players are back in training this morning, ahead of their world cup third—place playoff match with belgium tomorrow. and away from football, serena williams is into her tenth wimbledon final, just ten months after giving birth. she will face angelique kerber in the final tomorrow. today, it's men's semifinals day
at wimbledon — in a repeat of the 2011 final, rivals rafael nadal and novak djokovic face each other on centre court this afternoon, in what will be their 52nd meeting in all competitions. that's all the sport for now. more on the bbc news channel throughout the day. thanks, holly. let's return to the
top story, the interview president trump has been giving to this newspaper. he has spoken to the sun's political editor. meeting the queen. are you nervous? she is even larger than you in terms of her global reach. president donald trump speaking to the political editor of the sun. you will notice i am on the roof of new broadcasting has in london, we have
a view to wear many protesters are expected. i can see people gathering already, many people will be protesting about president donald trump's visit to london. large demonstration seen yesterday. we know the mayor, sadiq khan, has clashed with donald trump in the past. he has urged people today to protest peacefully. we want to show the responsible site to london. the president seems quite unfazed by everything that is going on, he said the british people like him a lot. we have a number of people to speak to us. just introduce yourselves? zamzam ibrahim, vice president of nus, asad rehman.
iam i am charlie were. zamzam, why is it so important for you to protest?” think it is incredibly important to show and defend our right to protest, which is why hundreds and thousands will be taking to the streets today. what needs to be recognised is that state visits should not be given to an individual who has shown complete disregard... this is not a state visit. whether you call it or not, it is more or less a state visit. shaking his hand and bringing him down to this country, when in actual fact he has shown complete disregard and has boasted about assaulting women,
theresa may has been walking hand—in—hand with him. to get a trade deal which, in actual fact, we know what will happen. dave sargent, i know you have been at a pro—trump rally yesterday? i was not. you are supporting him? we had an event in parliament with nigel barrage saying it is diplomatic business as usual. whether you agree with him or not, he has been elected by tens of millions of his own people and if they head of state at the very valued ally, and at a time where we need to be making trade deals, we need to be making trade deals, we need to be making trade deals, we need to welcome him, as we would any democratically elected leader. i really worry about this idea that we should negotiate because they are an ally. what we should put before the economics of the trade deal of basic human rights. he violates women, he is an islamophobia. by
saying we should talk to him because economically, it is important, we are putting that before human rights and that is more important. the same with hitler, he is not to be negotiated with. there are three main rison is why you see hundreds of thousands of people and i think we speak for the majority british people in rejecting donald trump, notjust as a people in rejecting donald trump, not just as a disgraceful person that he is, but the politics he represents —— three main reasons. he has normalised racism, he has put children in cages, separated families, normalised sexual violence, attacked the poor and most vulnerable, he has used the office of the united states president. but it is the policies he is promoting. he is talking about an economic policy and trade deals were, actually, they would threaten environmental standards, open up food safety from chlorinated chicken, it puts corporal power at the centre of big business rather than the interests of people. he
wants the nhs to be opened up for american corporations to profit from. let charlie respond to that. any president will look at his own nation to trade. a lot about this misogynist stop and bigot, these are words, just thrown out there. they could be to you but they have a real consequence to people. you can't just say that, they have a real consequence in violence. let charlie respond. unemployment is at its most in history, a stronger economy means people get to work and be supple billing. -- self-fulfilling. you said that most rich don't support donald trump, 45% want to welcome him and 39% oppose. the bbc should step outside london which is not representative of this nation and going to the north and essex and the
south—west. it might mean you are back later than by pm, but that is what you should do. we do that all the time! we cannot ignore tens of thousands of people on the streets of london today. or i am saying is you are interviewing people in london. i am in the north and their protest as well. we should avoid destruction. we have to go downstairs. our report is downstairs with some protesters. indeed, we are here where hundreds of people gathering as part of the bring the noise march which is the women's march, more than 35 charities have gathered together to protest against donald trump in the uk. i have the organisers here. why did you feel it was important to organise this march? quoting martin luther king, it is a glorious opportunity for the people of the united kingdom to stand in
solidarity against a divisive and misogynistic and inhumane and discriminative policy of the trump administration and it is an opportunity to celebrate the strength and the diversity of the represent —— and the devise —— and the dodin adversity we represent, —— diversity. today, people show up, speak up and stand up. you have talked about you talking to your son about trump's policies, what did you speak to him about? he cannot be here today because he is at school but i did ask him, how does trump make you feel? he was very angry as a young child, he is only ten, and he said, mummy, ifeel a young child, he is only ten, and he said, mummy, i feel people can get into power and start wars for no reason. this is a sign to say, no war, we are not interested in your war, we are not interested in your war against children, against women and certainly not interested in your war against all other non—white people. so that is why we're here
today, to say, not on our watch what specifically are you protesting against, what has trump done that has offended this group? bearing in mind we are a platform of many voices with over 35 organisations, human rights and charities here, they campaign across the board. we are standing up against the political rhetoric of hate and bigotry and divisiveness. this is unacceptable. we are saying it is time for the trump administration to put an end to the moral depravity and ignorance coming out of its policies. huda, we can hear noise being made. how is this going to kick—off? being made. how is this going to kick-off? there will be an opera serenading us down the street, we will have drums and pots and pans and we are asking everyone to bring the noise. what is the significance of the pots and pans? it started with south america where women were
protesting men and administrations of their governments by bringing pots and pans, that is what they had as their disposal. we are using our domesticity & of womanhood and the ways we have been oppressed to fight the oppressor. thank you very much. this much has been organised over a year and this much has been organised over a yearand a this much has been organised over a year and a half. back to you in the studio and hopefully you will see the hundreds of people gathering here outside in main central london. getting a bit of a suntan here, getting outside the studio is always nice. president trump has arrived at chequers, he is having a meeting with the prime minister, theresa may, at her country retreat. we can cross to our political guru, norman smith, who is there, tell us about that arrival. he arrived in a sort of elite of huge helicopters in the last few minutes. in the sun—kissed buckinghamshire countryside. i don't
imagine there will be much sunlight and laughter amongst team may because theresa may is facing a difficult crunch news conference with the donald in one hour following on from his criticism of mrs may, in effect accusing russia accusing her of not pursuing the kind of brexit people wanted and mishandling negotiations and not being tough enough and saying, you will not get a trade deal if this is the brexit you are trying to negotiate. and going out of his way to praise again isjohnson. and i suppose the question for theresa may is, does she go toe to toe with the president of the brexit and try to ta ke president of the brexit and try to take him on? that doesn't really fit in with her style and it would be high risk indeed to challenge the president in that sort of arena because that sort of is meat and drink, he loves that combat if
public occasion. that is very high risk indeed. the other option is the more softly softly, muted counterargument put in a rather restrained manner and i imagine that is what theresa may is going to go for, but it matters because donald trump has directly challenged her approach to brexit and emboldened the brexiteers by giving them the thumbs up, and he has dented her leadership. his comments really show a certain disregard for theresa may as if he almost does not care about her difficulties. and so she has to reassert herself. so an absolutely fascinating news conference is looming. i know you will be there for the bbc news channel bringing us updates on that meeting between the prime minister and the us president, donald trump. on the roof, and joined by more protesters who will be out on the streets later in london. i am olivia hunt, an
american high school student in london. i am a canadian who is also a student here in london.” london. i am a canadian who is also a student here in london. i am georgia. i am connie. a student here in london. i am georgia. iam connie. iam a student here in london. i am georgia. i am connie. i am also a londoner, but 20 years only, i am canadian originally. speak up a bit because it is quite loud with the traffic noise of central london. why did you guys decide to come out today and protest? we are here because we believe in women's rights. for them to be equal with men. and we think, we still see sexism in everyday life and we are from an independent girls' school so it is important to us. and we think on this day, whatever you think about donald trump's politics, he is still as a person representing a particular view about women and girls. and we are here to remind
people i guess that women have full lives and we are happy to participate. lots of people have been getting in touch throughout the morning, viewers, telling us how they feel about this visit. lots of people supporting it. maybe you would like to respond to this. ian said, trump is being honest, if our politicians could answer questions ina straight politicians could answer questions in a straight and honest manner, more people would bother to vote, what would you say? i don't drink trump answers questions in a straight and honest and said, in his political rallies, we have seen how many times he lies —— i don't think. the politics and democracy he represents is built on this foundation of nationalism and hate and we have seen that in the cha rlottesville march. and we have seen that in the charlottesville march. he is not a politician who really represents what we want politicians to be. why are you taking to the streets today? i think it is important to have our
message heard, it is important is to stand up and do something when things are wrong. if you look back at history, these protests do work. and so i think it is important to participate. interesting you say they do work, what would be working, what would be a good outcome for protesters today? i thinkjust being heard. being heard. i don't necessarily think it will change him, but! necessarily think it will change him, but i hope that it changes other people's minds and collectively, we continue to grow. and change happens that way. do you think it is right that president trump has been invited on this visit? he is the president of the united states, right? so we have to interact with him, to try to progress the global conversations, as well as we can. so we have to make do with that. girls, what would you say if president trump tuned in, what is your very short message to
him? well, i think that he is handling things in a not very good way. he is not a very good role model for america and i think he is not very right for the job. yes. thank you so much for coming to speak to us today. you are going to be out on the streets later. we are expecting tens of thousands of people, possibly hundreds of thousands, some people are suggesting, out on the streets of london protesting against president trump's trip to the uk. you can stay tuned throughout the day for continuing coverage. thank you for your company. hello, good morning. many of us started with a fair amount of cloud this morning, but that has broken up across southern parts of the uk.
this is the city of london, some blue skies, three. but some rain affecting north—western areas and that drifts north and into the afternoon, further heavy and thundery showers developing across wales, through parts of north west england, into the midlands and central and southern parts of england. showers very hit and miss. if you get caught in one, you will know about it, if not, it will stay dry. elsewhere, sunny spells and it will feel warm, temperatures into the mid—20s. showers tonight rumbling on before fading away as we reach the early hours of saturday morning. increasing cloud and outbreaks of rain into the far north the uk. for most of us into the weekend, it is going to be dry and sunny and quite hot. increasing heat into sunday, but always more cloud with patchy light rain across the far north west of scotland, northern ireland. goodbye. this is bbc news.
here are the top stories develop impact 11am. donald trump warns theresa may her brexit plan will kill any hopes of a trade deal with the us and says she ignored his advice on leaving the eu. i actually told theresa may how to do it but she didn't agree... she didn't listen to me. what did she say? she didn't listen. no, i told her how to do it. that will be up to her to say but i told her how to do it. she wanted to go a different route. i know she's looking forward to setting out to him how this brexit plan will work,
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