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a very warm welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to our viewers in north america and around the globe. my name's mike embley. our top stories: the bbc reveals evidence of a vast new network of internment camps in china. it's thought as many as a million muslims are being held inside without trial. if this really is all about education, then why the effort to stop us getting close? the moment the saudi crown prince — widely suspected of ordering the killing ofjamal khashoggi — meets the murdered journalist's son. president trump gives his strongest condemnation yet. it was carried out poorly, and the cover—up was one of the worst in the history of cover—ups. at least 20 people are hurt as an escalator malfunctions at a rome metro station. hello.
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the bbc has new evidence that china is building a vast network of internment camps for its muslim population, in the western region of xinjiang. analysts believe one facility we identified may be one of the biggest detention centres in the world. it's thought as many as a million muslims from the uighur community are being held without trial in xinjiang. china simply says it has a programme of "vocational training centres" to combat the threat of terrorism. but the bbc has seen analysis that suggests the number of secure, prison—like facilities in the area has more than doubled in the past two years. accounts from people who've been held inside tell of abuse and humiliation. our china correspondent john sudworth and producer kathy long brought back this report, from a part of the country where journalists are often prevented from working. in xinjiang, displays of police might are everywhere. but there's something
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here they don't want you to see. huge fences all around. behind these blue steel walls, in a former school, is what china calls a vocational training centre. but it looks more like a prison. nearby, relatives queue up to visit. from above, the grim details can be picked out. last year, the school had a football pitch. today, it's covered with what look like accommodation blocks. watchtowers are visible. on a corner, just outside the camp fence, we stop to speak to a family. what are you guys doing here? some officials try to stop us filming, but another intervenes.
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"let them speak", she says. i ask who they're visiting. "my dad", he replies. china denies it is detaining muslims in xinjiang. in response to the allegations, state tv has been showing classrooms of supposedly grateful adults, willingly undergoing reeducation. "without this, i might have followed religious extremists", this woman says. but the bbc has seen new, detailed satellite analysis of dozens of suspected camps across xinjiang. few of them look much like schools. this giant compound is surrounded by a high wall with 16 watchtowers. we try to approach the site by car. look at this.
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only to discover that it's being expanded on a massive scale. wow. it's like a city. then the police block our way. if this really is all about education, then why the effort to stop us getting close? the satellite analysts show us a more recent image. it's clear how much the site has grown. but the team is able to show that this one camp is part of something much bigger, by identifying many other similar secure facilities right across xinjiang. plotting their growth over time shows just how fast they're being built. satellites see beyond what the human eye can see. as the years pass, we have detected that the number of infrastructures being built increases and,
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most significantly, in the past two years. and prison design experts tell us this could now be one of the biggest detention facilities in the world, holding 11,000 inmates at the very least. xinjiang's mainly muslim minority are known as the uighurs. now, many of their homes are locked and deserted. sinister official notices on the doors say the missing are being "looked after". "re—education", "vocational training", to use china's euphemisms, suggest something limited and temporary, but our evidence shows that the camps and prisons being used for that purpose are large—scale and seemingly permanent. the big question, then, is where does all of this end? and the history of mass incarcerations, of course, offers some pretty ominous precedents.
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from a vegetable field to another one of china's new schools. in less than six months, complete with watchtowers. we tried to film one of them. but once again, while trying to get to the truth, we're asked to leave. john sudworth, bbc news, xinjiang. to the expert on the china, to publish research on china's the tension network in xinjiang. i spoke to us recently to an expert on china. well, it says that the chinese government is really pursuing an ideological approach that, as you said, is very much hearkening back to the roots of the ccp and chinese communism in the 1950s. chinese prisons, chinese security services can be pretty brutal. is there any doubt, do you think, that human rights abuses
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are being committed in these facilities? i really do not believe that there is doubt, even though the situation in these camps likely is not consistent. there can be different types of camps, they can have slightly different focus, slightly different conditions. however, firstly we have strong eyewitness evidence of what is going on in these camps. at the very least, it's very strong intimidation. secondly, the question's, of course, why these extensive security features? as you have said yourselves, and as your video has very convincingly shown, these camps are basically prisons. what is being hidden? what is going on? well, what do you think is being hidden? what do you think is going on? what is being hidden is the largest detention of an ethnic minority in recent history, unprecedented, even in chinese recent history. according to my research, the scale of the current re—education campaign in xinjiang
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likely exceeds the former re—education through labour system that china abolished in 2013. and if they are expanding at this rate, what does that tell you about likely timescales? i mean, do you think people arejust going to be kept there indefinitely? most certainly not. the chinese do have a goal. they recruited thousands of police, spent billions on security and surveillance systems, establishing a very strong police state. this reeducation campaign is really the next level, qualitatively and quantitatively the next level of the securitisation drive, with the goal to change an entire ethnic people. what is unclear, as you have said, is how long will this take, when will this be over? i personally do not believe that this will go on for more than several years, but we all know what can happen within that timeframe, and also afterwards, we still don't know how
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many of these people can still be kept in these facilities. and just briefly, if you could, adrian, what could possibly change this policy? does china have to worry, really, about international criticism ? yes and no. china is a very big and independent nation. however, especially with the belt and road initiative, china is very much now also trying to woo other countries, trying to export some of its ideology and approach. china does care about its international reputation and the most recent attempts by china to put a positive spin, to be proactive about this re—education campaign, to even have a cctv piece about it, interviewing detainees and how how supposedly this has been benefiting their lives, that's an entirely new approach and it does show that the international pressure is showing some signs.
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thank you very much indeed. thank you. let's get some of the day's other news. the us national security adviser, john bolton, has warned russia not to interfere in american elections. speaking in moscow, he said past interference by russian hackers was objectionable, though he also claimed it had had little effect. and he confirmed that president trump will meet president putin, shortly after next month's mid—term elections in the us. hurricane willa has made landfall in mexico. thousands of people have been evacuated and buildings boarded up, as the hurricane threatens tourist resorts with high winds and heavy rains. willa is forecast to be one of the most powerful hurricanes to hit mexico from the pacific in years. the european commission has rejected italy's budget for next year, expressing concerns that the government's plans to raise public spending would also increase the country's public debt. in response, one of italy's deputy prime ministers, matteo salvini, said the eu decision changed nothing, apart from making italians angrier. donald trump has called saudi arabia's response
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to the murder ofjournalist jamal khashoggi a total fiasco and "the worst cover—up ever". and secretary of state, mike pompeo, has announced sanctions against 21 identified suspects. they will have their us visas revoked. turkey's president has told mps from his ruling party that the killing was planned days in advance. from istanbul, mark lowen reports. jamal khashoggi's last steps into the saudi consulate and towards his death. he came just for papers, to prove his divorce and let him remarry. three weeks on, the search for the truth continues. president erdogan vowed to provide it today, the "naked truth", in his words. in the end, no new bombshell, but an accusation of a premeditated act. translation: all the information and evidence shows that jamal khashoggi was killed in a violent, savage murder. we expect those responsible to be exposed.
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we have strong evidence that it was a planned operation, not an accidental death. he called for an independent investigation and tightened pressure on those arrested in riyadh. many close to the crown prince. the president of turkey, the world's biggestjailer of journalists, now an unlikely defender of the saudi journalist's cause. translation: the 18 people must be tried in istanbul. this is my proposal. (cheering) but the decision is for the saudis to make. president erdogan laid out how the journalist's murder was orchestrated. he said planning for it began when jamal khashoggi booked his appointment at the consulate to get the divorce papers. the day before his killing, a saudi reconnaissance team scouted a forest in istanbul, where he may now be buried. president erdogan went on, the 15 strong hit squad assembled that morning at the consulate, removing hard discs
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from security cameras. then mr khashoggi received a call to confirm his appointment at the consulate. it was at 13:08 that jamal khashoggi was last seen alive. one saudi operative then donned the journalist's clothes and a fake beard and glasses — walking in istanbul, apparently as a diversion. more evidence, it seems, of meticulous planning. given the gruesome leaks of what happened here, sedatives, strangling, dismemberment, a president who does not shy away from confrontation was surprisingly restrained today. i'm told he wanted to show that this isn't against saudi arabia, to urge the king to act without targeting him, and to warn there'll be more dirt if riyadh stays silent. in the saudi capital today, they put on a brave face, opening a glitzy investment conference, but many multinationals and politicians are boycotting it, and the opening speaker couldn't avoid the topic.
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the terrible acts reported in recent weeks are alien to our culture and our dna. getting the us to change tack is harder. its treasury secretary pulled out of the conference but still met the crown prince, the saudis praising the strategic partnership. and the white house is yet to be convinced by turkey's allegations. what president erdogan said? yes, sir. well, he was pretty rough. i want to see the facts first. look, saudi arabia's been a really great ally, they've been one of the biggest investors, maybe the biggest investor in our country. imagine the pain here forjamal khashoggi's son, meeting king salman and the crown prince — widely accused of ordering the murder. beyond the geopolitics, the regional relations turned upside down, it comes down to this — a father killed, a family torn apart. mark lowen, bbc news, istanbul. my colleague tim willcox is at that investment conference in riyadh, where he tried to speak to saudi crown prince, mohamed bin salman. he was mobbed, like some sort of rockstar. crowds of people around him wanting
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to get selfies and shake his hand. i managed to get up close at one stage, and i sort of thrust myself forward, i didn't want to start with the whole jamal thing because he was surrounded by his bodyguards and things, but i said, look, in the context of recent events, "how do you think things are going?" he said, "great, more people, more money," laughed, his bodyguards laughed and he was away. i was hurled asunder. that doesn't seem to be preoccupying him at the moment. if you look at the delegates here, it's a different sort of conference. you haven't got the big titans of business and politics, but a lot of their deputies are here. i spoke to several big companies who said the ceo didn't come, shareholder pressure, didn't want that, but we want a seat at this conference, this is a hard—nosed pragmatic business relationship and the numbers don't seem to be that far down, i'm told, from last year. i am told mohammed bin salman will be at a session tomorrow morning, where we're told he's got a couple of big announcements. i don't think it's going
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to be anything to do with the jamal khashoggi case, i could be wrong, but i doubt it, and we're also being told there won't be any questions from journalists here. tim willcox in riyadh for us. stay with us on bbc news. still to come: brazil's evangelical church backs the controversial right wing candidate vying to be the country's next president a historic moment that many of his victims have waited for for decades. the former dictator in the dock, older, slimmer, and as he sat down, obedient enough. dawn, and as the sun breaks through the piercing chill of night on the plain outside korem, it lights up a biblicalfamine,
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now, in the 20th century. the depressing conclusion — in argentina today, it is actually cheaper to paper your walls with money. we've had controversies in the past with great britain. but as good friends, we have always found a good and lasting solution. concorde bows out in style. after almost three decades in service, an aircraft that has enthralled its many admirers for so long, taxis home one last time. this is bbc news. the latest headlines: the bbc has uncovered evidence of a vast network of detention camps for china's muslim population. as the family ofjamal khashoggi meet the saudi royal family, president trump says the killing is the "worst cover up in history". authorities in rome
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are investigating how a metro station escalator collapsed, injuring at least 20 people. it's thought most were russian football fans. witnesses say some of the supporters were singing and jumping up and down before the escalator broke. lebo diseko has the story. they should've been watching their teams play football. instead, they found themselves in what's been described as a scene like something from the apocalypse. most of the injured were russian fans of cska moscow. they were in town to watch their team's uefa champions league match on tuesday night. the repubblica station in the middle of rome was packed with people on their way to the game. this video shows the escalator they were on as it suddenly speeds up. travellers on the opposite side try to catch people as they fall. the escalator then comes to an abrupt stop, with what looks
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like dozens of people crushed at the bottom. firefighters worked for about an hour to try and free people who were trapped between the metal plates of the steps. at least seven were seriously injured. one fan had to have his foot amputated. translation: the scene that we found was people piled up at the bottom of the escalator. people, one on top of the other, looking for help. two investigations have been launched, one by rome's public prosecutor, the other by atac, the company in charge of the city's public transport system. the task now, says rome's mayor, is to try to understand how this could have happened. lebo diseko, bbc news. brazilians are about to decide their next president, and religion is playing a significant role in how
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that turns out. the country, home to the world's largest catholic population, is becoming more evangelical: 6% in the 1980s, 30% today. influenced by powerful churches and with conservative family values, evangelicals are backing the far—right candidate jair bolsonaro, as julia carneiro reports from rio. a concert for a devoted audience. "who's part of the lord's army?" the singer asks. this is one of the biggest evangelical churches in rio. these people can help decide brazil's political future. winning over evangelical voters has become crucial in these presidential elections, and this means appealing both to conservative values and to a group that's been hard—hit by brazil's economic crisis. up to 70% of evangelicals are expected to vote for the leading presidential candidate, jair bolsonaro, a former army captain who praises brazil's dictatorship years. he's known for homophobic
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and misogynist views, and defends the traditional heterosexual family. translation: i chose him because he's a decent man. he defends the family and has never been involved in corruption scandals. translation: he speaks of preserving the family, the values, the good customs. pastor silas malafaia has over two million followers on social media, and has been campaigning for bolsonaro. translation: he has his flaws, but he's against corruption and in favour of our family values. the left—wing governments were shattering our moral values. bolsonaro is running against fernando haddad from the left—wing workers' party, who's been blemished by recent corruption scandals. translation: conservative religious groups feel threatened by a growing agenda defending female, black and lgbt rights.
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evangelical leaders say this is a threat to family values and this makes it harder for left—wing politicians to appeal to evangelical groups. but these christians have gathered in rio against bolsonaro. they say his values betray their faith. we are not voting for him, and we are taking a stand against groups that support neofascism, which is what we believe is going on. translation: we are here to say the gospel has nothing to do with hate or violence. it's about peace, commitment to human dignity and respect for diversity. we can't allow the image of christ to be captured by a message of hate. after years of economic recession and political turmoil, brazilians are desperate for change and struggling to keep faith in the future. julia carneiro, bbc news, rio de janeiro. two weeks until the american
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election and we have headed to one dozen election and we have headed to one d oze n states election and we have headed to one dozen states to ask about the issues of the day starting with donald trump's impact. as you will see, the a nswe i’s vary. trump's impact. as you will see, the answers vary. it is about trump, write? in what way has donald trump... impacted your life? lord jesus, help me, holy ghost. wow!|j am jesus, help me, holy ghost. wow!” am seeing more enthusiasm, i am seeing more employers saying, god, we've got all of these great jobs. god. jobs seem to be good. it is hard. i wish i didn't vote for him. i would vote for him in a heartbeat in 2020. donald trump impacted my life. he made it a lot better. i think i spent too much time watching
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the news. trying to bring his whole family in and make it a country club. he fights for us, he is a streetfighter. it has made it easier for me to roll my eyes, be offended. he has made my blood pressure go up. my accounting clocks are happy because the tax rate went down. my respect for my fellow americans went down. i will keep it brief. respect for my fellow americans went down. iwill keep it brief. idon't like him. he has impacted my life by raising the level of discussion between myself and my sons are politically. i have to be very quiet when i go home to visit my family because they are very large trump supporters and you just want to beat your head against a wall. who tend to bea your head against a wall. who tend to be a bit more... let'sjust say progressive. i think someone like donald trump has been instigating a
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lot more violence, a lot more hate. hatred is going on. it is like the sarah huckabee sanders getting asked to leave the restaurant she was going into eating. i was raised in west virginia but sometimes i get questioned about where am from. he was selected by the american people to be the american president, not to be the global president, but to be the american president, so we're good on that. and we will keep asking america for the next couple of weeks. for more visas from the series just had to oui’ visas from the series just had to our website. —— for more voices from the series. much more on all of the news anytime on the bbc news website. thank you for watching. hello there, good morning. this mild weather is not going to last forever,
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but yesterday we had temperatures of 18 in bridlington, and along the coast here in scarborough, beautiful sunshine from one of our weather watchers. gusty winds, mind you, and it's by the end of the week, as the wind direction changes to more of a northerly, that we'll really draw down some much colder air by friday. at the moment, though, we're south of these weather fronts here, so we're in the milder air, this envelope of milder air with high pressure shaping our weather. around the high pressure, we've got a north—westerly wind that's drawing in a fair bit of cloud. it means the best of the sunshine, sheltered eastern parts of scotland, eastern england, southern england and south wales. more cloud towards the north—west, bit more rain gathering in the north—west of scotland. probably not as windy on wednesday. it may feel a little bit warmer. temperatures again up to 16, maybe 17 degrees. as we head through the evening and overnight, we may see a bit more rain arriving in the north—west of scotland, particularly over the highlands. away from here, though, most bases will still be dry, i suspect. we'll see some cloud coming further south in to england and wales and temperatures, five,
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six, seven degrees. moving into thursday, there's probably going to be more cloud across the uk, the sunshine a bit more limited. the winds starting to pick up ahead of this rain that's developing more widely in the north and west of scotland later on in the day. but ahead of that, those temperatures are going to be a little bit lower, so more like 12—14 degrees. the really cold air comes behind that rain, which is on that cold front there. does what it says on the tin. we've got colder air coming as we draw down the winds from the north all the way from the arctic. as we move into friday, we soon see any rain clearing the south—east, then we're looking at showers, wintry in northern parts of scotland, a significant windchill here. most of the showers down the western side of the uk. further east, those showers arriving along those coastal areas later on. but look at the temperatures, significantly lower and they‘ re not going to be rising any time soon. we've still got high pressure around, but as we move into the weekend, it's
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sitting to the west of us, so we're drawing down this really cold northerly wind. again, more wintry showers across the northern half of scotland. fewer showers down the western coasts of england and wales, and indeed actually across northern ireland. most of them coming off the north sea to the eastern side of engaland and scotland. another cold day, seven, eight, maybe nine degrees at best. looking ahead, more of a north—easterly wind from sunday and into monday, so most of the wet weather will be in the east. there'll be some sunshine around, but at least for the coming days, it's going to be pretty cold. the headlines: the bbc has new evidence that china is building a vast network of detention camps in its western region of xinjiang. there are claims that up to a million muslim uighurs are being held indefinitely without trial. the chinese government says the camps are simply vocational training centres. donald trump has called saudi arabia's response to the murder of the journalist jamal khashoggi a total fiasco and "the worst coverup ever".
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the state department has announced that the visas of those involved in the killing will be revoked. mr kashoggi's son has met the saudi crown prince. at least 20 people have been injured — some seriously — in rome, where an escalator at a metro station ran out of control. it's thought most of those involved were russian football fans in the city for a european champions league match. it is reported someone jumping it is reported someonejumping up and down on the escalator before the accident. —— some were.
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