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eaten up by the hm, a m a; we. l jazz." being eaten up by the liberal democrat. of the conservatives i think are better at sending out a electoral story than labour are at the moment and they are slightly split, getting the opportunity of tories to come to the middle if they are able to manoeuvre the rest of the brexit vote. 50 are able to manoeuvre the rest of the brexit vote. so much to discuss in the weeks ahead, thank you so much for accompanying me this evening and much to look forward to this coming tomorrow, and a cabinet meeting in the morning and at 3pm they will put forward their motion to prevent no deal. we will get more reaction i am sure tomorrow i'm boris johnson's reaction i am sure tomorrow i'm borisjohnson‘s proposalfor reaction i am sure tomorrow i'm borisjohnson‘s proposal for that general election and at the moment it does not seem that the opposition parties are going to fall for the debate but there will be lots of comment from opposition benches which we will want to hear tomorrow. so from here in westminster for the moment, in westminsterfor the moment, i will hand it back to the studio. thank you very much indeed. if you are watching a few minutes ago you will have seen vicki young with a
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conservative friend venture andrea leadsom talking about the prospect that the 21 conservative rebels will lose the web and expelled from the conservative party in the house of commons and she seems to suggest that if they vote differently there might be an option of a second chance. vicki has likened into that and treated in the last three minutes that she has been told that all 21 will lose the whip and in all circumstances. so if you thought that andrea leadsom was perhaps showing a change of change in tax and vote against me and you will lose the web, it seems not. let's go to laura canonsburg who backs up what she was saying. all 21 rebels are checked out including the chancellor from a few weeks ago, philip hammond and churchill plus my grandson but this is what she was
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picking up on. andrea leadsom seems to suggest that if they change their mind :—) there might be another chance but we will see. vicki young is being told that in all circumstances what has been done today will lose the weight. it will bea today will lose the weight. it will be a long 2a hours so just in case you arejoining me. here is the result, 328—301 so the government losing by 27 votes. this was the crucial vote in the comments. the eyes to the right, 328 and the notice to the left, 301. not a good start boris. the ayes to the right, at 328. being noes to the left, 301. the ayes have it, the ayes have it. unlock. boris johnson was helped to bring different energy than his
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predecessor but he has now lost his first vote as prime minister. here is -- first vote as prime minister. here is —— he is reacting to that. first vote as prime minister. here is -- he is reacting to that. no doubt mr speaker... no doubt that the consequences of this note tonight, it means that parliament is on the brink of wrecking any deal we might be able to strike. tomorrow's built wall hand control of the negotiation to the eu and that would mean more debt there, more delay and more confusion. and it will mean that pe themselves will be able to decide how long to keep this country and the eu. and since i refuse to go along with that plan, we are going to have to make a choice mr speaker, idid not to have to make a choice mr speaker, i did not want an election in the public to not want an election. i don't believe the right honourable gentleman wants an election but if they vote for this bill, they will
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have to choose who goes to pretzel on the 17th and take this country forward. everyone knows that at the right honourable gentleman goes to brussels, he will beg for an extension. he will accept... you will accept what ever brussels demands and we will have years more arguments over brexit and the contrast is that this government is in charge and i go to brussels, i will go for a deal and i believe i will go for a deal and i believe i will get a deal. a couple of things to emphasise, he is saying that if mr corbin get support, you will have yea rs mr corbin get support, you will have years more of brexit and the bad news, however you sit on the story this is about how the uk leaves and whenever it leaves we get onto the other matter of the future relationship on the eu and uk and said the story is not going anywhere, and for an election to happen, two thirds of the comments
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hi steve back the idea, and the labour party is crucial to that equation and here is the leader of the opposition jeremy corbyn. equation and here is the leader of the opposition jeremy corbynlj equation and here is the leader of the opposition jeremy corbyn. i will come tonight's boat, we live in a parliamentary democracy. we do not have a presidency but a prime minister. prime ministers govern with the consent of the house of commons, representing the people in whom the sovereignty rests. there is no consent... there is no consent in this house to leave the european union without a deal. there is no majority for no deal in the country. asi majority for no deal in the country. as i have said before, if that prime minister has a confidence in his brexit policy, when he has won, he can put forward, he should put it before it that people in a public vote. and sell, you want to table a
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motion for a general election, fine, get the bill through first in order to prevent... in order to take no deal off the table. so what all of this means is that mps are now in control of what is debated tomorrow in the house of commons. they will bring forward another vote which seeks to rule out a new deal and he goes into more detail in the circumstances but will certainly will at that prime minister boris johnson continuing to negotiate with the eu with the threat of a no—deal brexit and the mix of negotiations. it does not guarantee that the vote will go through but the mps have taken control. will go through but the mps have ta ken control. also will go through but the mps have taken control. also to remind you 21 conservative mps worked with the opposition parties which meant the government lost this vote and they we re government lost this vote and they were threatened with losing the web and essentially till you can no longer represent the conservative party as an mp and they still
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rebelled with a brief my number ten, this will now happen. that means that the grandees of the conservative party like king clark and also the man who is chancellor a few weeks ago, philip and the number of otherformer few weeks ago, philip and the number of other former ministers will no longer be able to sit in the house of commons as conservative mps. bees are extraordinary times and let's go to christian and westminster to continue the story. thank you and yes, so many intriguing twists and turns over the past three years but another hugely significant evening and westminster. damaging defeat for borisjohnson and westminster. damaging defeat for boris johnson and a and westminster. damaging defeat for borisjohnson and a story that really changes our two hour, after the opposition parties and rebel tories took control of the order paper tonight for tomorrow's business and parliament and an announcement from the prime minister that you will be laying on the motion for a general election
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tomorrow, counterstatement from jeremy corbyn that he was not necessarily going to pick up the gau ntlet necessarily going to pick up the gauntlet but until he has insurances of lead in the election may be and you can see right there that things changing our two tower —— an hour to hour here in westminster. let's go to vicki young who is in the lobby for us, andi to vicki young who is in the lobby for us, and i am sure there is plenty of reaction, what is the conservative side saying about the of borisjohnson. conservative side saying about the of boris johnson. they are saying that they are disappointed in that they are already framing this as jeremy corbyn trying to block brexit. the reason they are doing thatis brexit. the reason they are doing that is because of course they want a general election that would be the argument going into the general election but labour, jeremy corbyn is blocking brexit so they hope to skip up brexit voters including those who had been the last year or so those who had been the last year or so defected to the brexit party. that is the idea but of course getting to the general election could be a little bit tricky but on
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the tory side the rebellion, larger than most people had died, 21 conservative suit rebelled and will know, we understand the effectively booted out of the party. i am joined by one of them now, and have you been told that you do make the web is withdrawn and you will be priced out of the tory party. i was getting a phone call that if i was voting for the motion i would be losing conservative with, yes. how do you feel about two former chancellors and the father of the house can clark and winston churchill because my grandson, you will all be kicked out of the party. you think that is how they should be handling people like you? it is hypocritical of the prime minister who consistently voted against the previous prime minister, the conservative prime minister, the conservative prime minister in taking this action of people who voted against him but this is not what would have happened if the prime minister did not mishandle this issue. that decision
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persuaded people that he was not serious about getting a deal with the european union, people are where willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him to try to get a deal in the european union but his decision to prorogue parliament has misfired spectacularly. the adviser would say that what you have done is by taking no deal off the table, if you manage to do that tomorrow with this bill is to take leverage away and undermining the negotiations because there has to be that choice for the eu to move to compromise. they do not believe that, they did not believe the prime minister on that issue. he cannot sell at a meeting with those who are thinking about rebelling yesterday and all they wanted was some assurances by the prime minister that he was really trying to get a deal and that one of the people who rebelled today said to the prime minister, if you can give us a vote ona minister, if you can give us a vote on a new deal outcome, guaranty asked about in late october to stop
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asked about in late october to stop a new deal outcome, i will but with you today and he refused to get back guarantee. is not trying to negotiate and make a deal and i am afraid the lack of trust of people having an boris johnson suffered this defeat in the government this evening. he tabled a motion for a general election that would require two thirds of mps to vote for that? do you think he has the number is in the house of commons for that?m now down to 280 mps and has a —20 majority with the dup and the prime minister wants majority with the dup and the prime ministerwants an majority with the dup and the prime minister wants an election on the 14th of october but the legislation means he could get the support of the house on the 14th of october and subsequently move the date until after the 31st of october. you think you would possibly do that?” after the 31st of october. you think you would possibly do that? i do not think people have any reason to trust that is prime minister's word. because legislation is framing as it
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is, he could change the date and when you have a prime minister who says he would not suspend parliament but then decided he would, and saying that categorically he would not call a snap election and then call a snap election, i am afraid he is running out of roads to get people to trust him. tell me what you think this means for the conservative party more generally, we had just seen greening saying she will not stand at the next election and that the tory party is no longer the party for her and others feel the party for her and others feel the same, alistair burt, a former minister in the think that has white implications for the party?“ minister in the think that has white implications for the party? if you are a moderate censure ground butter in the united kingdom, it strikes me as if this party has now decided that the way forward is to be populist english national party and ijoined the conservative and unionist party and i never dreamed i would see a situation where 60% of members are going to see scotland as a price worth paying for brexit. if you are happy to vote for the brexit
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prydie i suspect you feel very much at home in the brexit party. if you find the ideals of nigel farage to be something you do not want to support i am not sure how you can support i am not sure how you can support the boys johnson conservative party. what about those who say there it was a referendum and we have to leave ee to respect the referendum and that is what by shots is trying to do, he does not agree with nigel farage on other things but this is about delivering on the people. three occasions philip hammond voted for theresa may's which all agreements which would save united kingdom leave the european union boris johnson would save united kingdom leave the european union borisjohnson did not. thank you very much indeed and we will see you tomorrow. may be and we will see you tomorrow. may be and we will see you tomorrow. may be and we will hear more from labour about how they feel about boris johnson calling for a general election. thank you very much indeed and let's mull over a little bit more tonight's dramatic events in the comments with the brexit editor at
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the daily telegraph. and also we have the wall streetjournal. you will be reviewing the paper is a little bit later but first of all let's talk through what happened tonight. it is difficult to say, during the day we had a little bit of ambiguity from the labour party and wondering and trying to work out whether they work with their mps to support going to a general election, once the government had lost because i think people were expecting the government to lose said this did not come as a big surprise. when we just heard mr corbin speaking now after the votes were counted, and mr corbin said quite clearly that the government needs to put a bell forward first and they need to make sure that there is not going to be a no deal at the end of the 31st of october period. before labour actually supports a general election
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soi actually supports a general election so i think that is quite a significant development tonight which we were not sure of before and this might mean that this planned that the government supposedly had of calling and election on the 14th of calling and election on the 14th of october but then that was changed to the 15th of october because of a jewish festival on the 14th of october it might not actually materialise the way the government was expecting it to. not really a huge surprise the government last night but what about the scale of the defeat. as ever with these things a lot of memories were flying around yesterday evening and today most of them putting it in the teams, early teens and what we actually saw was 21 and much higher than people expected and some of the names where bigger names than we expected and we just had a confirmed that they are going to lose the with so we now that they are going to lose the with so we now have that they are going to lose the with so we now have some that they are going to lose the with so we now have some of the most identifiable household names from the 20 party past and present now theoretically in the next general
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election not able to stand as conservatives. the government are confirming those rebels will be kicked out of the party. you are watching bbc news and special coverage on the latest from westminster. let's talk a little bit more than two than and what about those 21 rebels, confirmation from government sources that they are going to be kicked out of the party and where does this leave the conservative party as well as the country. in a difficult place, and we saw doctor philip lee crossing the floor earlier today which brought down the conservative working majority to zero and that is significant and you could ask what is the government actually achieving that the working majority of one? the majority is now at —20 or more
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than that. it will be minus 2011 suppose, than that. it will be minus 20" suppose, 21 or 22. and it seems to me that without a general election, it is very difficult to see where the country goes from here because it is well for the parliament to ta ke it is well for the parliament to take control over the agenda and it has now decidedly but it is unclear what it intends to do. has now decidedly but it is unclear what it intends to dolj has now decidedly but it is unclear what it intends to do. i am afraid we have to go to the weather but we will talk to you both again later on and for our newsprint paper review. let's go to the weather. this week's leather looking family behind —— looking fairly benign. some cloud and generally temperature is around the season and impact wednesday looks like it will be where temperatures are below average and it will feel even cooler and the
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reason is because we had this area of low pressure moving down from the northwest in our area of high pressure and bringing rain in the southeast and this next one bringing plenty of showers for scotland and northern ireland but it should clear away in the morning but it will pick up away in the morning but it will pick upfor away in the morning but it will pick up for the northwesterly bringing plenty of showers in the northern half of the country and these can be quite heavy and 30, a0 or 50 mph and it will feel cooler, ten to 13 degrees in the north and 17 to 19 across the southeast. as we had to wednesday night it stays blustery and it looks like the showers will continue on and it will continue during the north and west of the country and another cool night. temperatures and the single digits evening towns and cities just about making double figures in this out. high pressure and across the southwest and this area of low pressure will bring letter whether
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and some cooler weather as we reach friday. but that they say we are in between systems. there will be a few showers across northern and western areas and actually slightly milder air moving and behind this line of showers. we can see 15 and 16 degrees in the north and for their south variable cloud and sinisa is just one or two showers again mid or high 18 celsius. that area of low pressure ice lives and for friday. crowd outbreaks of rain and this is a cult moving southwards and introducing cooler and northwesterly so temperatures will be down again on friday and 13 to around 5916 degrees in the north and 17 or 18 across the southeast. that frank is there is. high—pressure sales back in and introducing a little bit milder and we should be a that later. and high—pressure will bring lighter winds and increasing chance of sunshine around so that will feel
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a little bit warmer over the start of the weekend for mid teens and north and 19 or 20 degrees across the southeast. we hold onto this benign pattern for the weekend and... you're watching a bbc news special — we're live at westminster, where mps have voted to take control of the commons. the eyes to the right, 328 to rebel mps succeeded by a majority of 27, which means a debate will take place tomorrow over plans to stop a no—deal brexit. the pm called it a ‘pointless delay‘. it means that parliament is on the brink of wrecking any deal. because tomorrow's bill would hand control of the negotiations to the eu

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