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♪ live from pier three in san francisco, welcome to "bloomberg west." i'm emily chang. yahoo! has its earnings report out and the numbers are encouraging. will it be enough to stop the recent slide in text talks? time is running out if you want to buy google last. here's a check of your top headlines.
there are more signs of hope for the pc business. intel reported a 1% rise in sales. more corporate orders helped offset the overall decline in the consumer market pulse top that will be coming up later in the hour. i will speak with the cfo. the microsoft ceo has announced new data analysis tools at an event in san assist hopeful top it includes a limited preview of the service. it measures data from sensors connect it in the internet of things. microsoft is taking on oracle and ibm. a federal judge has ruled against apple and threw these old -- is refusing to throughout an antitrust case. the move allows state officials and consumer attorneys to pursue damages against apple at a trial in july. plaintiffs are speaking 800 or $2 million. -- $840 million stop
day,r lead story of the the sellout in tech stocks takes a bit of a briefer-- breather. the nasdaq is down three and four percent for the year. alsoidual tech stocks were on a crazy ride. facebook did before rebounding. searching in after-hours after reporting its first sales gain since 2012. sales were $1.09 billion in the first quarter. profit was $311 million. e-commerce site alibaba posted a rise in revenue in the last order 2013. yahoo! owns 24% of the company. how much of the sales gain is due to alibaba? how much is due to marissa mayer?
gene munster is with us from minneapolis. market research managing director of shanghai. headlines about yahoo! growth. there are some makes their sales did rise 1%. it is not much, but it is nothing. >> it is something. it has been a couple years and i have grown. the just light number has been down. that was up two percent. it is pretty modest. in the world of yahoo!, where there is a lot of kids turn that the poor will not grow, that was encouraging. it gets easier in the june quarter. let's give them credit where credit is due. marissa came in with a very difficult task of turning around a core business that had structural challenges and it is growing. >> marissa mayer is also saying
that the company is moving through stable and modest growth. she used that word, modest. i will ask you about alibaba. we will get a peek at how they are doing. they are more concerned about growth and how they can keep it up. there is sales growth. net income is up. these numbers include a single sales the what is your take on these numbers? >> these numbers are great. that are a lot of concerns the sales revenue numbers will be slowing by our word. they had a great fourth quarter. -- driven by given china. they sold $8.5 billion of rotted. the key number is that they're operating margin went up 54%. good ifmbers are quite they go into their ipo process in new york or potentially in
hong kong later this year. alibaba will continue to grow. there are concerns that we will continue to talk about. let's get to that in a moment. i want to correct. alibaba sales are at 66%. how good is yahoo!'s is this without alibaba? >> the business is struggling. it is up fractionally. i would say, how good is the stock? that is a whole different story. you have half the value these and alibaba. when you look at the move in the aftermarket, three quarters of that move is based on alibaba results. >> how is alibaba positioning it tell in the chinese market? there's so much more going on
that we need to understand. they are making acquisitions and big investments. how much of this is moving toward a single unified strategy going forward? how much of this is responding to competitive dynamics? >> that is a great question. most13, alibaba was the dominant e-commerce player. that its platform was able to corner the market in the mobile device sector. what has happened is that they have a -- they have bought a 20% a. they are buying stakes in a variety of companies. there is a lot of heat on them. a lot of people are thinking that the $.10 platform will do a lot better. you will see a lot of consolidation with $.10 and alibaba. they are making it one of acquisitions.
that is why you saw alibaba vent over a billion dollars buying a mobile phone mapping service. that was announced last week. >> yahoo! has agreed to sell half the state can alibaba when the company goes public. how do you wanted to use that cash? >> based on some of the comments, i would say that investors want to give it back. the cfo talked about a $300 billion cash balance of stop when you think about that, they will have the chair dividends. that is part of the plan when they will there's they can alibaba. investors will get some of that battles how will these the catch? acquisitions are the status quo. you need a strong balance sheet. what marissa mayer outlines around social and native advertising, all of those are the areas -- if you asked me
specifically what acquisitions could they do that could really beef up what they already have, they have slept most of the holes both top is probably just eyeing teams to make some of their existing products that are false. >> we have been talking about the tech selloff. chinese tech stocks are also down. china mobile is down 11%. how much concern is there about this within china. could impact alibaba? >> alibaba is definitely concerned. they're happy about these numbers. they are probably toting the yahoo! room boards to a lot of journalists. you will see it bounce back. it goes to the question you just asked, what should yahoo! do? i do not think they should have sold to alibaba. there are few companies that are better positioned for growth. the china story is compelling.
you will see it bounce back on tech stocks. there has been too much selloff. >> how concerned are you about the sellout? is this something that will continue? with the intel results in the yahoo! result, it is a big i have relayed. we will get a rally here. the fundamentals for the business seemed good. in 2008, the fundamentals looks good. a couple orders later, they called articles -- fell apart. it is not an ironclad endorsement, the fact that the fundamentals are good. it is think urging. andelling yahoo! -- intel yahoo! have had slightly positive result. that is encouraging. i think that this is a nice sigh of relief. we can expect a rally in the
tech space over the next week. >> what is your confidence level in marissa mayer? >> probably a seven or an eight. i think she has taken a difficult job and done a great job. set expectations that she managed to beat. >> that is not too bad. piper jaffray analyst gene from china market research, thank you both for weighing in of stop protesters are preparing for march -- for a march outside of twitter headquarters will we are live out either then francisco headquarters. why should twitter pork over $56 million to the city? you can watch a streaming on your tablet, own, and amazon i or tv ♪
i'm emily chang and this is bloomberg west. the anticipation is holding. a group of union workers is marching their with a bill that they want twitter to pay. protesters believe that twitter got a tax break from the city. they want twitter to pay that back. megan hughes is outside. it is pretty quiet there. are we expecting this protest to be big? saying thats are 1000 people will be meeting at the hall. they say that they will cut off some rush-hour traffic. they are headed here to twitter to protest. they are called twitter tax breaks. there are more than a dozen companies. they are wearing them to this area. -- luring them to this area. these companies get to be exempt from new payroll taxes for new hires.
it encourages growth. they are also exempt from salary taxes on top. -- sotck. these workers who are protesting are largely union workers for top they say that the city does not need to give the suite deals to tech companies. they will stay here regardless. this is about income inequality stop >> twitter has not paid his taxes. legally they do not have to stop the mariner san francisco has been a target of these protesters. we caught up with him earlier and asked about the responsibility of these companies. take a listen to what he had to say. >> everyone has approached the challenge in a different way. i want to make sure that they are doing everything they can to help us. if we have a partner and they
are helping me re-create the vacant storefronts. , i would like them to help. the challenges are very visible. that is what i will challenge everyone to do. i am making are still phone calls. >> he is a big angel investor pulls out a lot of technology companies have been calling on other companies to step up. maybe does not pay more money, but getting more involved in the community. what are these companies doing on that run? -- front? >> part of this deal started in 2011. it was a good-faith provision that they would be involved in community training and hiring efforts. a lot of these companies that signed on and are responsible in some way -- i will tell you that
the critics and the protesters say that those provisions do not have any he. there's no way to quantify all of that. as you heard the mayor talking about there, these empty storefronts are something that you have seen. in quantify how much these communities move into this area and how much that has changed things. you look back in 2010 and more than 30% empty storefronts. it was the worst area in the city. within three years, it was down to 20%. you can see it in the development all around here. >> megan hughes, twitter headquarters. we will be monitoring that it has. thanks so much. still ahead, xl partners takes companies like facebook and spotify. we will speak with one of their investors in mobile. ♪
fax welcome back. this is "bloomberg west." google is putting google glass on sale for the general public for one day only. it costs $1500 for access to the program will it is available only to adults living in the united dates. google has a patent application pending. i sat down with a partner at xl partners. thatptimistic you see google glass will go mainstream? glass is still in beta. when you talk about it-point, it is still intimidating to developers who want to develop applications. the reality is that you try the
product and you read the reviews. it will be a while before becomes mass market. it is interesting to those of us who live in the valley. it is a while before mainstream adopt google glass as a product. someone from coastal ventures told me that it has zero chance of going mainstream. >> it is too early to predict. inn google bought android 2005, everyone thought that the idea of google moving into mobile was not. no one thought that it an american company would become a major player in operating systems. years,look back nine google executed that incredibly well. >> in terms of wearables in general, as a mobile investor, how closely are you looking at wearables? wristbands aren't even going mainstream stopped
>> we are not investors in fitbit, but we are big investors -- believers in that trend. one of our partners is involved ."th "my fitness how." -- pal that is a real and durable trend. the fitness aspect of wearables is extremely real and it is accelerating. even if the glass asked acts are in beta -- >> what about people who do not want to measure their life lately? i have plenty of wristbands that i do not want to wear everyday post op >> everyone has a different view. user of fitbit, i have gotten a lot of motivation from it. you can compete with your friends. it is a motivating behavior. fuelband and a lot
of trenton wearables are genuine trends. >> what is hot mobile? years, itlast five was about liquidity and now it is about richness. android was approached by google in 2005. now one billion smart phones were shipped is year and 250 million tablets. the idea of mass ubiquity is happening. despite the fact that we have smartphones, it was apps are still down or not fully integrated. when you look at a google service or a predictive keyboard or a web iq, the idea of these ing smart or becom predictive is a new idea. but you are speaking to the
cofounder of your app today. today.et apps some people think that these are not good for the world. what do you think? >> we are not investors and whisper. i have had a lot of growth. anonymity on the internet is not a new idea. because although it back to chat rooms. these behaviors that people are and peoplebout sharing ideas anonymously, i do not think that now that it is on a mobile device is necessarily better or worse. i do think that secret and likely to havey to use moderation. i have to do it and they will do it. in part of making those communities robust.
but what about that chat? snapchat isa different. it is ephemeral. it is past the tipping point. i do think it is here to stay. >> one of xl's partners talking about hot trends in mobile. we will talk a lot more about the dangers of mega-funding at we have been post. he is concerned about the selloff in tech stocks. are we in bubble territory? nobody else has repeated the. you can watch a streaming on your tablet, your phone, or bloomberg. tom. we will be right back. ♪
you are watching "bloomberg west ," where we focus on innovation, technology, and the future of business. we returned to my earlier conversation with long. one company was acquired by twitter. he was most recently involved with this key. asked to my facebook and google are interested in buying from companies and whether it may be too early. >> the reality is something you buy for core technology. there are a lot of options. doesimes the original idea
not become completely fulfilled. we talked about android and how google made that a big success. sometimes you take the team and you focus on other areas. i am reading the same reports that you are. there's a view that drones could be applied to mapping technology. navigation or broadband internet service. anyone who looks at it would say that it is pretty early. >> there has been so much activity in the text is. facebook was buying whatsapp and oculus. mega-rounds of funding being raised. we are talking about three digit andxcuse me, 11 digit round multiple rounds like that this year. what is going on? are things getting too hot? >> we've talked before. there are a number of major revolutions going on in technology.
there is a coincident with the rise of big data. we are moving to new forms of social internet. are an incumbent technology company and you are not writing one of these trends, you can get pretty scared. you can get left behind if you are not one of the key players. on the flipside, if you are a target company, and you are the personification of one of these you can beifts, extremely strategic. intel did an that large investment clout. that is example of that. >> i have been asking everyone on the show. do you think we are in a bubble? there has been a tech selloff. i want you to take a listen to this interview. >> it has been a steady sequence.
we are in bubble territory both the if you notice, very few people are saying it will stopped >> you are the first person who is saying it. >> no one wants to break it. everyone wants to cash out. territory? bubble >> if you want to make the comparison to the 2001 era, i think we are not the new majority of companies are being funded and have real is this models. there are real cash flows. it is different from the 2001 keyword. the revenue multiples were cash flow and earnings exist are getting higher. i do think that is a roughly 10% will that. the nasdaq is likely to have him impact on the the stage round. there will be some moderation because of that.
as far as companies that have no business model, that is not accurate both top >> you do not think the growth is sustainable? the funding round that we are seeing, that is not to able to mark >> i think that valuations are sustainable, but i do not know that they will continue to accelerate at these aim plays -- face. many investors are looking at next year's revenues. they are pricing their investments off of that. the growth rate has to be there to support valuations. i do not think it will double again. we have seen the private markets. >> you guys just raised a new round. you are starting your next chapter. these that was a huge hit. what will be the next chapter? >> we are looking at a broad range of technologies. there looking across software areas that we have
covered previously. i think one of the areas that is harder to report on is the incredible revolution that happening on data centers in the cloud. the press reports around these trends in big data -- fundamentally, whether it is we arefor networking, just at the very beginning of that revolution. >> venture capital firms have changed dramatically. a lot more firms are going all service stopped countries in horowitz has been a tinier in that area. has beenssen horowitz a tinier in that area. >> you have to find entrepreneurs do you believe in. they often choose us because a -- a area of expertise partner of mine is very well known in big data. there are a lot of investment in that space.
i spend a lot of time thinking about the mobile space. entrepreneurs will value that vertical knowledge and that access to the network. all of the firms are adding other resources will whether it is helping recruiting or pr. tot is in addition andreessen horowitz. one of your portfolio companies is moving to wholesale. what do you think about that? >> xe is an amazing company. is an amazing company. it is a leader in the handmade market is. one million sellers making handmade goods falls top they are disturbing those products to be etsy website. now there is an opportunity to distribute them through retailers. their missiones
i'm emily chang. this is "bloomberg west." we are streaming on your phone, tablet, and bloomberg.com. intel's transition is making progress. the world's largest chipmaker responded -- reported a rise in revenue. for more on its transition to mobile, i am joined by the fo stacy smith. this is the first time that intel has rogen out financial details in mobile. why now? >> it is how we think about our business.
it is how we organize the company. what is different about our business today is that we ship to a broad range of device is. we have a very healthy business. we did 5 million tablets in the first quarter. we have this healthy internet of things is this that is growing. >> everyone is talking about the internet of things. bought a wristband maker. the you wear a wristband? do you think these will be big? >> i have worn a risk and. i will not see the band because i will not say it on tv. businessnet of things is a sprawling business. it ranges from injured payment to devices in your house to devices and factories. there is a new category of wearables. we are part of the internet of things.
we have done well over $2 billion. we are off working with customers in the wearables space. we are doing a lot of x or mentation. we are fine companies. i do not know how it will play out, but we're there early. our intent is that when the winners emerge, we will be there with them. experimentation, what is the most exciting thing you have seen? >> generally, the most exciting and kind the is the level of innovation. it is a hot area. there are all kinds of interesting hangs that range visualo sensors to computing solutions to things that can interpret your boys and provide information back to you. it is really exciting. requirements where
about having great computing capability at a low-power is ready-made for us because of our manufacturing leadership. >> every chipmaker is saying that the internet is hangs is a big opportunity. a lot of these makers are using specific designs. why will they go with intel? >> for us, it is not a plan to win a market they. if you look at our business results, you see that we are is not the leader, one of the leaders in the heels already. we have business of over $2 billion and growing superfast. the reason that we are being so successful in this is this is because of our manufacturing. we can provide more performance in a very low-power envelope. that is our competitive advantage. that is allowing us to win in
the marketplace. fax your ceo has promised 40 --lion companies running on packages running on intel. how do you get to 40 million by the end of the year? >> we have a good line of eye. the tablet market is consumer driven. there is a lot more volume in the back half of the year because of the consumer selling season. we look at it as being right on track. we are right on track in terms of the engagement with the customer and the design we want. our customers have expectations of how much volume it will ship. we feel pretty good about where we are at. there is a lot of work to do, but we are off to a great start. >> you are giving subsidies to support this effort. how you think about that as a know>> in 2014, we want to business.
goal, thatve our will put is between 15%-20% of the tablet market. we will have application developers and a lot of excitement. people will develop on our architecture. we have a slew of projects coming in. next year we have a product that will give leadership and performance in the midrange of the tablet market. we will intercept our footprint with these great products. we will go from there. it is a gutsy move, but it is a smart move. >> what about phones? we have spoken to investors who do not believe that you are in the own business. will you make a flagship device? when will we see intel in holland in a not -- non-negligible capacity? >> we have talked about the shift in our strategy post. 2013
was about getting into a lot of different devices in order to learn what we needed to learn about the market is. we wanted to make sure that we could demonstrate to the world that on intel phone would hit the right power envelopes. we not only had leadership performance, which was asked acted, but we also had leadership battery life as well. we did that in 2013. in 2014, we are focusing on what he's, the volume, the market makers. deeml announce as they appropriate. we will go after the big guys. we will grow our volume. >> how about cars? this is the new battlefield between apple and google and even blackberry. share inntel's market cars? >> it is pretty high and growing. call and an investor
we saw 32% growth in the internet of things. there were two segments that were extraordinarily strong. automotive and infotainment were both parts of the. we have a lot of things coming into the market as these he falls >> we will be watching. a lot of ambitious lands. stacy smith, thank you for joining us on "bloomberg west." >> my pleasure. "topom csi to movies like gun," jerry bruckheimer has seen great success. we are talking to the famous producer about his next roger. that is still to come on "bloomberg west." ♪
two sequels in the work of he has just reached a deal with paramount pictures for his "beverly hills cop" and "top gun" franchises." he is the subject of a new book. >> we put a lot of time and energy into making angst look interesting and unusual. we tried to put something special and different in what we do. that is in poor to us. in terms of where the movie business is going, you had a long run of disney and nine have this first look deal with paramount. how disneylked about is focused on its movies and your focus on your movies and disney is doing a lot of is there goings. to be superhero fatigue at some point? >> i don't know. i saw the latest captain america and i thought it was rate.
everybody is cheering and laughing. it is a great lakes areas. that is what movies are all about. that is why you leave your living room, to go see the movies that are effective. as long as you make interesting movies, evil always leave their house. >> the first film that you highlighted as part of his deal with paramount is that you are working on another beverly hills cop. what can you tell us about it? >> we are in the process of getting a strip --. paramount is very excited about making it. we are excited about doing it. we are moving forward. hopefully we will start at the end of summer and get rolling. we will take eddie back to detroit. we will have fun with him. he is really excited about doing it. >> the film that everyone has been talking about is the next "top gun." you have been working on it, but this is a long
process for you and tom cruise. you made some headlines recently. tom cruise versus b rollins. -- the drones. >> technology has changed and the first one. we will take advantage of what is going on. is the pilot obsolete? those jockeys, are they gone? i don't think so. i think they will be around for quite a wild stopped we will hopefully highlight both worlds. ask what is the timing on that one? when will we see it in theaters? >> we have been working on it for over 30 years. i wish i could tell you how long it will take. it is a lot of fun working with tom. and tony scott came up with the idea. he passed away and that was sad for us. financingson is a earner.
>> a lot of people talk about ellison family. megan gets a lot of attention during the award season. what can you tell us about the the? >> e is a pilot. he loves wine. he has great taste. the movies he has made have been very successful. asunderstands the business better than anybody. for a guy so young to understand the heels and what actors work and what writers work, he has done his homework. i am proud of what he brings to the project. >> jerry bruckheimer with jon erlichman. do you think a top gun sequel can be as good? >> there is a high bar. notchk that is always the again sequels.
but you have tom cruise on board. that is one of the reasons that studios love to go back and then money. sequels can be a bankable thing. speaking of that, we also asked jerry -- technically he is moving on from disney. we asked him about the next installment of the pirates franchise. here is what he said. >> we are working on it. it is moving forward. johnny is excited. we are excited. hopefully we will get that going. maybe in the end of the year if everything lines up. thanks for those who do not follow the movie business, johnny is johnny depp. >> are we on pirates of the caribbean 10? [laughter] are we waiting for number four? >> there was talk that they would do a fifth and that back-to-back.
>> thank you for catching us up. it is time for the bwest byte. what you have? >> 10,000. marissa mayer shared interesting statistics about tumbler. she said the average tumbler post is re-blogged about or team times. but the average sponsored post is re-blogged 10,000 times. she has used this number a couple of times recently. she is not telling us how many total tumbler adds are out there. that is the point. they are taking a different route. if you are going to make a sponsored post, it has to be great. something that would be shared in a big way. the difference is for our yahoo!. >> at the yahoo! earnings call today -- jon erlichman, thank you so much. thank you all for watching this edition of "bloomberg west."
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