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a plane, it's a flying car? we'll have a live report from new york. "cnn saturday morning" starts right now. it is saturday, april 7th. good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. now more on that manhunt in tulsa, oklahoma. the fbi has joined the search if what's believed to be a lone shooter responsible for three deaths. we're told the shooter drove up, asked his victims for directions and then started firing. >> three dead bodies in one day, spread out like we have here in one general geographical area, yet far enough apart where obviously someone is mobile. >> these scary thif they're randomly running around because they could do it at any time. >> it was in a predominantly african-american neighborhood. three minutes later another shooting a short drive away. two men were shot, both survive and are helping.
less than an hour after the second, a second died, 54-year-old bobby clark and finally more than seven hours after the first killing, a fourth incident, 34-year-old william allen shot in the chest. earlier i spoke with councilman jack henderson and what he's telling his residents in his did strict. >> what we're telling people is they don't need to take matters into their own hands. we want to give the police didn't an opportunity and to support them in trying to apprehend this person. we need to cooperate with the police. i know that there's pockets of people that have not traditionally done that, but this is the crisis situation. a lot of people are afraid for their lives, for their children, for their loved ones, and if you
can't walk on by or walk down the street in the city that yu live in, then that's definitely a problem. >> councilman henderson says he does consider this a hate crime bus the suspected shooter is white, the victims are all black and all the incidents were in african-american areas. all accounted for. that's the news from a virginia apartment building. amazingly no one was killed in this fiery crash. one of the pilots is still in the hospital. it's being called catastrophic mechanical failure. investigators are trying to determine exactly what happened. meanwhile all the residents in that burned out apartment complex have been found. flan to hold a news conference later to update the situation at 1:00 eastern. just somedays before the deadline in syria, the opposition says at least 62 people were killed in the government's brutal crackdown. tuesday is the big day. that's the day that syria's military is supposed to cease
fire. last hour i talked with the chairman for human rights but he says it seems the dead layne may be serving to escalate the violence. >> since the initiative, more than 300 people have been killed, and if you look to what is happening today in homa, it's happening more discriminately. more than 100 people were killed and the rebels of their houses. so i think it's getting very, very worse. >> syrian president agreed to it last month but now the question is whether assad and the military will abide by that promise. noted artist tom askin cade has died. that's him on the right. he was just 54. his family says the
self-proscribed painter of light died of natural causes. painting scenes of wooded cabins, seascapes and american scenes. weala awe aal we altered the voice to protect the identity. >> there were two stlies yelled for help. the second one will stay with me. it was like a yelp, a devastating desperate yell for help. it could have, in a sense, have been a cry. the investigator said to me kindly, he just said, well, if it makes you feel any better, the person that was yelling for help was alive. i really thought it was the boy crying for help, but here's the leading investigator telling me that, no, it was mr. zimmerman.
>> zimmerman's attorney disputes that. a grand jury is expected to convene next week to take up the case. zimmerman has admitted shooting martin, but says it was self-defense. protesters have called for zimmerman's arrest. take look at your tax dollars at work. this was a skit done by the general services administration. "the huffington post" posted it on a website. they were part of a gathering and it cost you, just in case you're worrying about it, $820,000. yes, you, the taxpayer. you're also on the hook in about half a million in gifts like ipods. congress is now taking a closer look. the first winner has claimed part of last world series eek jackpot. the kos winner came forward but wants to remain anonymous. so they presented the big check to a cardboard poster figure. you see it there. winning tickets were also sold
in maryland and illinois. all right, reynolds. would you have come forward if you had won the millions? [ inaudible ] the problem with the cardboard poster figure, i don't know how they spend. you've taken all the money and bought it on who knows, candy. >> not cloikting, that's for sure. >> today's going to be a nice day. pretty die today. same deal for the rest of the u.s. scattered showers and thunderstorms, possibly a tornado or two. plus we'll take a look at the forecast of the masters. so far, so good among the land of the azaleas. these co that's coming up. >> great news. manson is up for parole again. is there new hope he'll get out this time? we'll talk to an attorney who's an expert.
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lovely shot of los angeles. everybody's waking up, taking advantage there. i imagine a lot of you will be heading out. good thing for us reynolds is keeping an eye on all the weather all across the country. right, reynolds? >> absolutely. we have something that's kind of similar to easter eggs, maybe a little bit more round, white, small. we're talking about golf balls. it's going to be very similar to what we're going to see in atlanta. plenty of sunshine,
picture-perfect and dry as can be. if you want to be more specific in terms of temperatures, here we go. we're going to see dry conditions until we get into monday. i wish i could say the situation was different for parts of the center of the u.s. pause we've got a chance of severe weather. right now not taking tremendous shape at this point. seeing a little bit of deep convection south of wichita at this point. it's part of a frontal boundary drifting west to east. it could give us a chance for severe weather. two key components we're looking for, damaging winds and large hail. you can't rule out the possibility of a tornado or two popping up. on the other side, you've got contrasting air masses. with the dry wind coming through and gusts hopping 40, 50 miles an hour, there's going tobe the spread of wildfires. very, very small winds.
meanwhile in parts of the eastern seaboard, pretty similar conditions. strong northwind is going to be pretty intense, especially in the nation's capital. 30 to 40-mile-an-hour gusts. another thing we'll watch is for the chance of severe storms. back in the rockies, plenty of sunshine. along the west coast, enjoy today because we're going to see this next system pull its way back onto the west coast. tells very comfortable. 69 your high today. 86 for el paso. 60s in seattle and portland. back on the eastern seaboard, 49. 74, atlanta, 81 in tampa. as we wrap things up and you might be wrapping things up, you can expect delays in miami, orlando, and oklahoma city and dallas. minneapolis could have morning showers. randi, you're up to speed. >> i think you've got it covered
there. thank you. >> thank you. i walkts you to take a look at this picture with me. does cult leader and murderer manson still look guilty to you? it will be the 12th and very possibly the last parole hearing for the 77-year-old inmate. criminal defense attorney and expert on the lifer parole process randy joins us. good morning. let's get right to it. what are manson's chances of getting out? >> manson has absolutely zero chance of getting out because the fact of the matter is he hasn't done anything to convince the department of corrections that he's been rehabilitated on he doesn't pose a risk to sew seat if he were let out into the general public. in fact, he's done just the opposite. he's refused to admit spobltd to what he's done, refused remorse, and even though he's acknowledged his actions in the crime, he's maintained he hasn't
violated any of god's laws as he says it and he still considers himself a victim of the system. with that as a backdrop, no inmate would have a chance of getting out. so the chances are none for manson. >> so what exactly is the process? we have this parole hearing on wednesday. from what i understand he didn't show up for the last one. so how does it work? >> that's right. sure. there are two parole board commissioners. they're the ones who are going to make the decision as to whether the inmate's going to get paroled or not. he comes in with his attorney. for the most part it's a question and answer session between the commissioners and the inmates. they go over his record with him, ask him questions about it. it's about the inmate. it's his show. there are parts of the parole hearing process where the attorneys get to speak and where the victims get to speak, but for the most part it's about the inmate. i think that's the salient point to rb about this parole hearing
process. it's different than a criminal trial. in a criminal trial it's the defense attorney who puts on the show while the defendant sits idly by. it's the opposite when you're in front of the parole board. they don't want to hear a mouthpiece like me. they want to hear it from the inmate himself. >> when you look at him, though, he's an old man. what danger would he pose as an old man out there? >> you know, that's a really good question because that's the exact question that the parole board's going to ask in deciding whether or not an inmate is suitable for parole. but consider this. this is what the parole board's going to think. manson didn't actually kill anybody personally, okay? he ordered other people to do the killing for him. so even though he is feeble and he's old and maybe he doesn't pose as much of a physical threat personally right now, his danger is not in being this
menacing physical figure. it's in his uncanny ability to control people, to get people to do what he wants to do. so the way i think a parole board is going to see it is even though he may not be much of a physical threat at this point in time, he poses as much of a threat now as he did back in 1969, perhaps even more because he's kind of a rock star, an evil twisted rock star but a rock star nonetheless. he captures our imagination. >> has he behaved himself in prison? i'm curious. does that weigh into the parole decision as well? >> yes, absolutely it does, and the answer is, no, he has not behaved well in prison p. it's my understanding in the last five years he's been written up for possessing a cell phone, threatening a corrections officer, being in possession of a sharpened pen that can be used as a weapon, that combined with him not expressing remorse, he
doesn't have chance. keep this in mind as well. it's extremely hard for any inmate to be released from parole, even when they do exactly what you ask of them. i have had clients who have stayed clean in prison, taken vocational classes to get employment when they get out, immersed themselves in self-help programs like alcoholics anonymous and repeatedly expressioned suspicion. yet, if there's one red flag on their record, that can derail their chances to get paroled. you can imagine if it's hard for them to get paroled, you can imagine how hard it would be for manson who hasn't even denounced what he's done. >> what's next for him. will he ever get out? >> under the old law, if you got denied parole, the farthest out you could seek parole is five years. it's now 15 years.
you can do the math. he's 77 years old. if he got a 15-year denial, he'd be 92 years old. there's a good chance this may be the end of the road for him as far as parole hearings are concerned. >> that was a fascinating conversation. randy kravis. great to have you on the phone. >> thanks, randy. in 60 seconds we'll talk to the man who put manson behind be bars. the author of "helter-skelter." [ male announcer ] this one goes out to all the allergy muddlers.
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killer/cult leader's last shot at freedom. the man who put manson behind ba bars, vincent bugliosi" is on the phone. he'sal sew the author of "helter-skelter." my first question to you, do you think there's any shot that m manson will be paroled? >> no. theoretically, of course, but from a practical matter, absolutely not. look at his two co-defendants right now who are still alive, krenn wingle is convicted of seven murders. the other, two. she hasn't been free. so the motion you'd not set leslie van houten free but you set manson free, he's behind all the murders. he orchestrated and was behind all the murders. it's preposterous on its face. basically it's a non-issue and
not going to happen. manson knows this. he frequently hasn't showed up at parole hearings. it automatically will be turned down. >> do you still think he's dangers to society? >> yeah, i think so. but that's really not the issue. even if he were not still dangerous and he was completely rehabilitated from a theoretical standpoint, at the very minimum he should spend the rest of his life behind bars. some people forget he was originally sentenced to death. if this was not a proper case for the death penalty, no case would be. we should abolish the death penalty in the state of california. how many people do you have to kill to get the death penalty and the jury did return verdicts of dealt for manson and the codefendants but the very next year the state of california and the united states preem court
ruled the death penalty was unconstitutional. and they made the ruling retroactive. there were over 600 waiting for the death penalty. that's why they're serving life sentences. >> as we talk about it this morning, you are the guy who put him behind bars and you wrote the best-selling book. why do you thenk we're all still so fascinated with manson? >> for people who are fascinated by mansomanson, and many are, o like john gacy, richl ard speck, jeffrey dommer, are very sick psychopaths who kill for no reason other than ta sat nier homicidal urges and people don't find that too interesting. manson and his other murderers on hand at least to extremists in our society are downright hip to them because as misdirected as manson's violence was, it was
political, revolutionary, as he told his followers to bring about a new and better social order, and i think therein lies his main appeal, at least to those on the fringes, but also even to an ordinary citizen, most of these masked killers in our society have been very simple-minded flat intellects. manson on the other hand is very bright, there he's no question about that. anyone who knows manson will tell you how intelligent is he is. they're fascinated by the offbeat sometimes penetrating insights. i think he deliberately giving inegg mattic answers and illusions and he's mentally deft to the point -- not deaf but deft, d-e-f-t, to the point where he's able to speak in riddles which is not easy to do, but when you deconstruct the riddles, there's always an
underlying message. and in short people are growing to the interest of manson. also the very name manson has become a metaphor for evil. >> was there one thing during the trial -- when you look back at the case from what i -- from what i remember, i think the judge even starteding care a weapon at one point. was there one thing that stands out for you? >> well, the most sensational thing, of course, didn't even involve manson directly was when the president of the united states, richard nixon in denver, colorado, at a law enforcement convention felt manson was guilty. he was complaining about the fact that it was me in one of the stories on the nightly news and i became a headline throughout the night. manson guilty, nixon declares. manson got ahold of the paper and he stood up in front of the jury and showed the jury the headline, had a little smile on
his face and was somehow proud that the president had taken notice and that that threw the crowd into a tizzy. that was quite sensational. you talk about the judge possessing a gun. one day he leaped over the table, somehow he got ahold of a sharp pencil and start aid approaching the judge. the bay lives tackled him and he yelled in the name of christian justice, someone should chop off your head. the judge started carrying a .3a .38 revolver. its we extremely bizarre. >> it's one of the most bizarre we've ever covered. vincent bugliosi. thank you. >> thanks for having me on. a man on a mission to provide free medical care to those who can't afford it. this week's cnn hero when we return. [ female announcer ] this is the story of joycelin...
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least 80 people have been killed across the country today. a spokesman for the u.n. secretary-general says tuesday's withdrawal date for the syrian military is, quote, not an excuse for continued killing. and more than two dozen people are waking up in a shelter after this fiery crash of a navy fighter jet into apartment buildings in virginia beach. local authorities say residents who were missing after the crash have now been accounted for. navy officials say the plane experienced a catastrophic malfunction. the incident is under investigation. jobs are likely to be a defining issue in the race for president. this week's jobs report didn't have a lot of good news for president obama. jobs atted 120,000 jobs. not as much as expected. president obama tried to put the best spin on the numbers that he could.
>> our economy's created more than 4 million private sector jobs in the past six years, more than 600,000 in the past three months alone, but it's clear to every american there will still be ups and downs along the way than we've got a lot more wok to do. >> joining me now to talk about the race for president is robert zimmerman. good morning to you. >> good morning. good to be with you. >> you as well. so let's talk about this. i mean new jobs are being created, but are the job numbers moving fast enough and in a positive direction really to help the president? >> look. there's no way you can spin this month's jobs report. the numbers are disappointing without question. and let's also be realistic. this has been a slow and tough recovery because we're coming out of the worst recession, certainly since the great depression. it's had a devastating impact on middle-class families, women, young people, and all working americans. so i think it's best for the white house not to try to spin this report but just deal with
that reality. but what worries me is that in the partisan debate we're seeing, randi, it's important not to talk down the economy. we are seeing manufacturing consistently grow over 25 months. certainly first time unemployment benefit claims have dropped which means less people are being laid off and unemployed. we're seeing consumer confidence increase and retail sales go up. so we're seeing recovery, as slow as it is, he was called out. budgets define priorities, you know. that's what a lot of folks say. so is this fight one of the best ways we can see how different the romney administration might be from an obama one? >> i think we're going to see a difference and there's a real important national debate to have because you have an obama administration record to have. it's one that shows progress and recovery of the economy and then mitt romney is going to put his
agenda on the table which is endorsing the ryan economic budget plan which the republican party has almost unanimously adopted in the house and senate and the ryan strategy is to focus on tax cuts, increased tax cuts for the top 1% earnings and impose cutbacks for middle-income families. we're talking student loans, privatizing medicare which essentially ended for retires, rolling back environmental oversight to help business. so there's going to be an important debate to be had about that, and think when all is said and done, i think what we're seeing now is a recovery -- i don't think the country wants to go back to what the romney agenda represents. >> all right. robert zimmerman, nice to have you on this morning. thank you. >> okay. thank you. well, it's not tiger or rory mcilroy, but 52-year-old fred couples who has everyone at the masters buzzing. his surprising surge to the top. and tiger's meltdown next. you're watching "cnn saturday
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all right. let's talk a little golf, shall we? tee-off is on at the masters. we're keeping an eye at the leaderboard. the surprise leader now, 52-year-old fred couples? he would be the oldest golfer to win a major, right, if he wins it? >> reporter: absolutely right. randi, yes, welcome to augusta. this is moving day at today's major. let me get straight into freddy cupless, 52 years young, what a story unfolding. he won his first green jacket back in 1992. this is a player who's just rolled back the years. a real buzz about the place. he first came here, you know, back in 1983 to play as a
professional and a quite staggering record. he hasn't missed the cut on more than two occasions since. quite incredible. what a story it would be if he could go on to take his second major off that spectacular 1992 triumph. what's impressive is at his age, he's got great length off the tee and that gives him added confidence going through the week. he believes he can still be a major factor here at augusta. >> this is certainly getting exciting. let's talk about tiger woods for a little bit as a well. he was certainly a favorite entering into this. he's struggled and looked frustrated on the course, but do you think we should count him out yet. >> reporter: no, definitely not, randi. tiger woods is a force to be reckoned with. the crowds are here in the thousands watching him tee off. he's eight shots back. he has a lot of work to do, there's no question about that. but at 3 over par, it just wasn't happened for him on friday. he had such high hopes coming
into this convenient. he'd won recently on the pga at the arnold palmer invitational in orlando. that was his first towur win in two years. he's kicking away his club in anger, not good to see for the thousands packed around the green and watching on worldwide television. this is hole 16. took a 9 iron. he couldn't put it on the green add his frustrations kicked him quite literally. woods at 3 over par with a lot of work to do. tiger sticking to his guns, he's a defined character, a fighter, he still believes he has a real chance. >> i've been around the block for a number of years, and i understand how to be patient. i understand how to grind it out. and the tournament's not over. i mean, you know, last year in the final run i made up seven shots. so, you know, i can do this. i've just got to be patient.
>> reporter: got to be patient. let me show you the leaderboard very quickly. there you can see it's jason dufner and freddy couples. tiger, eight shots back, randi. >> thank you for the update. patrick snell there watching it at augusta. kim kardashian's love life grabbing headlines once again. is she or is she not dating rapper kanye west? cleanses as effectively as what's sold by skin professionals for a whole lot less. olay pro x advanced cleansing system. [ female announcer ] weak, damaged hair needs new aveeno nourish+ strengthen. active naturals wheat formulas restore strength for up to 90% less breakage in three washes. for strong, healthy hair with life, new aveeno nourish+ strengthen. but proven technologies allow natural gas producers
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well, she's technically still married, but reality star kim kardashian may have a new man in her life. she's reportedly dating rapper kanye west. on the "today" show friday she didn't confirm a budding romance, but she didn't deny it either. >> i've said before, i mean, kanye and i have been friends for years, and, you know, you never know what the future holds or where my life will take me. so -- >> let me bring in actor entertainment commentator and all around funny guy. >> i'm still reeling over the fact that golfing may be an old man's sport. are you telling me there's man who's 52 years old and still playing golf? oh, my god. >> yeah, freddy couples. >> and i thought the last
"rocky" movie was grab. i have to watch that again. if they can golf, they can box. >> all right. let's talk kim kardashian. she didn't really say yes or no whether or not they're dating. kind of left it open to interpretation, right? >> well, first of all, when you have an entire empire built on a sex tape, i don't know that the, you know, day-to-day of your relationship should shock anyone in either direction. but let's be clear. wednesday night, what, they went to see "the hunger games" together so they're like a 14-year-old couple and afterward she stayed over his house and left in the same clothes the next morning supposedly. so you can infer from that what you want? the best part is kanye really dating her i think is the other direction. and kanye, keep in mind, is sort of the master of the bizarre publicity stunt, yo knu know.
is it good, is it bad. they released one of his singles by accident or -- >> yeah, by accident it's called the eed thei ee eed. and everyone's making point that in the second verse of the song, he absolutely says he loves kim and kind of makes nice with his ex and that kind of stuff. the truth is he also mentioned project runway and peta in the same song. >> do you think this is all part of the buzz for kim kardashian and her show? >> of course, it is. this is entirely built on buzz. there's nothing to buy from kardashians be it jeans, thongs, or cookbooks if it wujt for the fact they run on a buzz machine. and it's quite effective. so it works. this is actually -- almost like
an old hollywood mainch where they go i've got a movie coming out, you've got a movie coming out, let's hang out for a few weeks and stir up some interests. >> very quickly i want to talk about photos that were released. >> i don't know knowing about -- i didn't know anybody who was shooting me at the time. >> don't worry. you're not in them. >> for once. >> beyonce has start add personal blog with all these photos. why would she do this? >> beyonce has the opinion she's going to live a normal life. she wants her kids to go to a normal school and drop them off at school and be normal. you can't. the there's no rolling up in your mom's escalade and jam as single from one of her nine winning grammys and you have a normal existence, but think in this she's almost like everybody else who wants to have, you know, a tumbler, a flicker,r account.
i think it's part her just trying to be normal poorly, and, again, this might be a mid season drum-up for attention. you don't have an album coming out right away -- >> but she's going to have one. >> -- you do something midway. >> hal sparks, that was fun. thank you. >> i know. thank you. by the way, manson is getting released is what i predict. >> okay. we'll take your word on that one. are you in the market for a new bride? there's a new car out there. this one believe it or not has wings. stay with us. "cnn saturday morning" where news doesn't take the weekend off.
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it's been cleared for the roadway. our correspondent susan candiotti is at the car show and is here to tell us all about it. is it expected to hit the roads soon? >> reporter: it could. it's legal to drive it but the faa has not given the final okay. lots of people here. we know the flying car is very popular because if you check out the auto show's website, it's something called the buzz. it's right there at the top of the list. i had a chance to see it up close. check it out. the top prize for one of the most amazing things that you will see at this year's auto show is this. now, the question is it a plane that drives or is it a car that flies? it's actually both. it is called the transition and made by a company called te eed terrafugia which means escape
from the earth. it's street legal and has an experimental license from the faa to fly. it's taken one test flight and gone up 1,400 feet. many more test flights are planned and it takes 40 seconds for the wings to unfold. an amazing sight to see. when you look inside, the dashboard looks like one you would see in any car. it has both a speedometer and an altimeter, now, that's different. wouldn't you like one? >> i sure would. >> reporter: i know i would. that's right. >> yeah, exactly. >> reporter: one of the coolest safety features about this, randi, if something goes wrong while you're flying, they tell me there's a switch that lets out a parachute and bringing down the whole plane safely to the ground. how do you like that? and they have already taken 100 orders on this, believe it or not. a $10,000 fully refundable deposit. and there's a special deal at
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