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i will talk to a woman that says weiner and huma's problems are not private and a matter of judgment. star jones joins me tomorrow. anderson cooper starts right now. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. series of explosions has rocked an area northwest of orlando. the blaze is still burning at a propane gas company. images from the scene showed massive flames shooting up into the air at different parts of the plant. helicopters, first responders are on the scene right now. and wide area around the fire, a mile wide is now being evacuated. we have a witness on the line with us. ashley is near there and she
joins us now. i understand you saw the explosion. you were there a short time ago. describe what you saw. >> my husband and i were at home watching tv and we heard all of these loud noises outside like thunder. almost like cannons or gunfire. it was happening so frequently that we thought it couldn't be anything like that. we went outside and the sky was lit up orange and every time you would hear an explosion, the sky would flash. almost like lightning. begot in our car and drove down to the late. and neighboring town to where we live and on lake, you could see the explosion from across the lake and the sky was completely live up and covered with smoke and clouds. and there was a huge fire. every time you would hear an
explosion, a giant fireball would shoot out of the explosion. which we were guessing was all of the propane tanks their exploding. one at a time. >> all you have been speaking, we are looking at live pictures with this fire still burning out of control. it happened about two hours ago. 11:00 p.m. local time in florida. and this is continuing to burn right now. what do you know about this plant? a propane factory, what else can you tell us? >> i have only been by it a few times. it is isolated in a rural area. there are homes nearby but a very large facility. several hundred propane tanks, i would guess, are there. we heard hundreds of explosions tonight, over the course of the last couple of hours, which i am guessing of the tanks themselves. >> this factory works pretty
much around the clock, do you know that? >> what i am not sure, 100%. i did hear from other people in the area there were people there working tonight. >> what about the emergency response crews which are on the scene, would you know about them? what have they been doing? >> i know pretty much every emergency crew from the area has come in. we have a lot of friends who posted to facebook saying either a relative of theirs or a family member or friend has been sent out to the scene to help. we know there were 5 black helicopters that were flying and to try to get the injured people out. but i don't know much more than that. >> okay. can you explain or describe what the explosions were like? could you feel the blast from where you work? >> they were very intense. i had friends who were saying it shut their homes.
the explosions were so intense. we are further removed but you could definitely feel them, especially down by the late. coming across the lake and it sounded like cannons billing of. it was very alarming. >> and what are you being told right now by the emergency crews and the authorities, what are they advising you to do. >> they told people within a mile to evacuate and stay away from the area. i was reading a couple of things to stay inside. we are not sure if there is any residual gas from the explosion that could affect anybody. they are wanting people within a mile to evacuate the area. >> thank you for that. not far from where this explosion took place. tell us sang what she saw about two hours ago. a series of loud explosions. she went outside and pretty much this seeing what she saw
alongside her husband. there are reports this is a propane gas factory and there were workers inside. the local television station reporting 10 to 20 people were working inside the plant. and may be unaccounted for at this time yet to be confirmed. it is believed there was a night crew on duty when the explosions began just over two hours ago. as you can see by these live images from orlando, this fire continues to burn right now. five helicopters have been sent in. ashley told us she hurt every emergency crew or first responder in the area has been sent to deal with this fire. the question is can they contain at or do they allow it to burn. one indication they may be sitting back and allowing us to burn itself out is that have the evacuation area in place. a mile or so around the plant.
1.6 kilometers. it could be expanded depending on how this fire burns out in the coming hours. as yet, no cause or idea what sparked these explosions in the first place. as we say, there could be as many as 5,000 backyard propane tanks. the garden variety propane tanks that many people have on their barbecues in their backyard. this factory provided that propane gas too much of the state of florida and for the last two hours, those gas tanks have been exploding, so are the gas tanks that store the propane gas as well. just to recap right now, there are reports that the injuries involved in this, as many as ten people could be unaccounted for. a developing breaking story so we have yet to get all of the details hammered down. we can tell you a series of loud
explosions, these fires continue to go into the night sky and people are still hearing these very loud bangs and the explosions coming from this propane gas factory in florida. for our viewers in the united states, we will leave you there. you will return to programming which is already in progress. tonight a special evening keeping them honest report on a rip off athat is stunning, shady rehab clinics filing bogus claims for phantom patients and are you paying for it. it is being called the largest ever child sex trafficking bust, 76 cities across the country, 150 alleged predators captured, 105 children recovered. we'll take you inside and talk to child sift safety advocate and crime fighter john walsh and where hitchcock filmed to catch a thief they're trying to catch a real one. whoever walked in and walked out with about $136 million worth of jewelry in a brazen robbery.
part one of an investigative series we're calling rehab racket. you will see starting tonight it is exactly what it is. we're talking about the abuse of a state sponsored taxpayer funded program on paper looks like a noble cause, privately run rehab clinics getting medicaid money by billing for each addict who gets counseling. 1 billing for each addict that gets counselling. but over the past year, cnn has found a system riddled with fraud and poor oversight. from billing to government, to allowing convicted felons to run drug rehab centers. our investigation found it is all too easy to take advantage of the very people who need help the most. this is no nickel and dime fraud, it's happening in california, we're talking about big money. state and federal taxpayers are on the hook for tens of millions of dollars every year. i said, federal tax dollars. to put it another way, that's your money. drew griffin keeping them honest tonight.
>> reporter: drew griffin with cnn. george has run a taxpayer funded drug rehab business in southern california for the past six years, which is surprising because for the past 11 years he's been on a list of people banned from bills medicaid. convicted of student loan fraud, george oluno should never have been allowed to open this clinic. >> what am i doing wrong? >> i'm asking you some questions about the drug rehab case. i want to ask you about, you seem to be at the center of fraud allegations here. >> no, no, no. >> have you been faking signatures on to sheets of paper and billing the state for the money? >> guess what else, he's facing felony criminal charges for ripping off the state. allegedly getting paid by taxpayers to rehab drug abusers who weren't even there. >> excuse me, sir. how can you bill the state for
clients that don't exist? mr. oluno, just one second, sir. we never saw oluno again. his drug rehab business here in southern california has been part of the largest medicaid program in the nation paid for with federal and state dollars. a one-year investigation by cnn and the center for investigative reporting, found the rehab portion of that program, called drug med-call is rife with fraud, has operators who bill the government for made up clients and often get away with it. joy saw plenty of fraud in the nine years she spent working as a supervisor over at drug medi-cal. >> i believe the word got out that there was easy money to be made in the outpatient drug free system.
>> how bad is it? >> it's bad, it's really bad. i left state service about three years ago, and we would have one provider that would bill for over a million dollars in one year, that we believe was 100% questionable billing. >> and that one provider was no isolated instance. over and over, we found examples of fraud. not hidden fraud. this was happening in plain sight. for example, george oluno. 19-year-old darshay miles was just 14 when she went to his rehab center along with her mother and three sisters. it is against the law to pay drug rehab clients, but that apparently didn't stop oluno. miles said he paid her and other clients $5 each time they signed in for group counseling, all so he could charge medical 28 and $61 per signature.
>> i didn't know nothing illegal. i thought it was a thing you were supposed to get paid to go in there. and then people were like, don't speak out loud about the money. >> what did she do with the five dollars given to her by the drug rehab center? she bought drugs. >> we were going to get the money to buy weed. my whole thing was like, you all were paying us to get high. >> reporter: the day after our interview, the state charged oluno and three of his employees at gd medical with grand theft in connection with more than 2,000 phony bills for rehab. dating back to 2009. he's pled not guilty. records show your tax dollars still paid him, even after he was arrested and out on bail. oluno's attorney blamed the billing practices on counselor's and employees who were not well supervised.
the attorney says oluno was a certified counselor himself, who was allowed to bill medicaid. despite that, the clinic voluntarily shut down july 1st, without explanation. cnn and the center for investigative reporting reviewed thousands of records including program audits. we analyzed patient billings and we watched clinics under cover to see who was getting treatment and who wasn't. the result, we found that in the last two fiscal years, half of the nearly $186 million spent for drug medi-cal about 194 -- about $94 million went to clinics that had shown questionable billing practices or signs of fraud. case in point, the man with the cigar, a convicted felon. >> he was the organizer. >> marshall vote was the lead investigator who helped prosecute alexander back in
2000, for running a texas based crime syndicate, that staged car crashes, rips off big insurance companies. >> he listed his occupation as the driver of an ice cream truck. >> he was sentenced to seven years in a texas prison. he served just one year. was let out early for good behavior and ended up in california. even though felons are barred from running drug medical centers. ferdman soon opened a rehab clinic called able support. daze been easy money for alexander ferdman. his california drug medi-cal contract is now worth about $2 million a year. his salary, $180,000. even after a 2011 review by los angeles county, found evidence of what it considers to be
fraudulent practices at his business. ferdman was allowed to expand. >> drew griffin with cnn, how are you doing? >> i'd like to ask you some questions about your business if i could. >> i don't have time right now. >> how can a guy with a record like you, be operating a drug rehab clinic in california. you've been convicted of a major car crash scheme in texas? >> i was convicted, but that's not what it seems. whatever happened, i don't know, 50 years ago, what relevance does it have to today. >> does the county know about your criminal record? >> they probably do, i don't know. >> what happened in texas, ferdman told us, should stay in texas. >> i was facing 99 years, and i choose to take a smaller sentence. i could have it much worse. but there was no fraud and there was no record of it in anyway.
>> how -- it's a very long story -- >> that was a huge case in austin, texas, statewide actually. >> that's what they tried to build it, it wasn't what it seems. and what they said it was. >> can you tell me how you left texas and decided to get into this business? how easy or hard was that? >> i don't want to talk about it right now. >> with such apparent widespread fraud in the program. former supervisor says it's not just taxpayers who are being cheated. >> i'm not a -- you know, the employee anymore. that has to look at this every day, i'm a taxpayer that knows this is going on, and it angers me. and there's story after story after story about medicaid dollars being cut from people who need the services. >> it's an incredible investigation. it's just so infuriating,
because there's a lot of people that do need help, and there's bad clinics out there that gives a bad name to the industry. is the state do anything about it? >> the state is cracking down. once they realize the depth of our reporting, and that it would be aired national on your show, the state announced a statewide crackdown, alexander ferdman's clinic, his clinic has been shut down, 16 others. >> shut down. >> shut down. 16 others temporarily suspended and california announced a statewide review of the entire rehab clinic program although the details are a bit sketchy right now. >> why did it take so long, though. >> that was my first question to the state of california. and as we continue our reporting, it's going to be your question and our viewer's questions. as we will reveal tomorrow night, report after report, investigation after investigation, year after year finds the county and state
investigators were finding this fraud, finding these questionable billing practices and yet the clinics remained open and we believe kept billing taxpayers for this. >> that's the thing, it's taxpayer money. and the people who need help aren't getting it. >> we're going to have that part two tomorrow night. you also can make a difference, have a tip for drew, let him know and let us know what you think about drew's report. follow us on twitter. more tomorrow night on this. the fbi's biggest undercover operation yet. against child prostitution. video of the raid is coming up. one armed robber managed to get away. with a fortune in jewels. it was originally reported to be worth about $50 million. now authorities say some $136 million in jewels was taken from this hotel, but taken from the south of france where the chase is on right now. ♪
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the fbi released video today for the biggest sting to date. a sweeping under cover operation targeting pimps that sell kids for sex. there were raids in 76 cities nationwide. the fbi says 150 pimps were arrested and 105 children between the ages of 13 and 17 were rescued. the sting was part of an initiative created in 2003 to rescue sexually exploited kids across the country. one young woman turned to the fbi for help is now speaking out. >> happening here. there was a hotel right town the street. a woman walks -- it was part of
a highway, there's a woman walking. so it's happening everywhere. >> my name is alexandra. i am 21. i got lucky to be able to walk away with it, with no arrest, no kidnapping. never got hurt much so i'm lucky, really really lucky. one of the few that can say that. >> alexandria was 16 when she became a victim of sex trafficking. she helped the fbi put two pimps behind bars. the fbi is hoping the children who were recovered over the weekend will also help send their pimps to prison. jay johns joins me now. what is the latest on this sting? >> they're sorting through the charges, they're going to be state, federal, and what about those young women. 105 teenagers between the ages of 13 and 17. the question is, what happens to them? so it's a lot for the people in the system to do. and everybody's going to have a little different story anderson. >> how do they identify the
people they went after. >> they went to venues where prostitution occurs. the local strip, where everyone knows prostitutes are hotels, casinos. even watching big sporting events. and they're looking at internet sites, and they think they're getting better at zeroing in on the right targets. listen. >> it appears we were 30 to 40% more successful in identifying both victims and pimps on this operation. as we can further refine these efforts in the future, we will continue to look to back page and to those other forum where pimps and exploiters gather, and we will try to penetrate those so that we -- our success rate doubles again. >> police on the ground help on this, they know what's going on in the communities, they know when there's a child out there walking the streets and they
also know which alleged pimps seem to be moving prostitutes from city to city and state to state. >> this took place across the country, doesn't it? >> yeah, it's incredible. 76 different cities all across the country. there were some smaller cities like jackson, mississippi who knew there's such a problem there. >> appreciate the reporting. want to bring john walsh, the former host of america's most wanted. the fbi specifically cited backpage.com, and sites like it, as a place where they found some of these victims. do you think shutting down these kinds of sites helps solve the problem? there are those who argue it just pushes the commerce elsewhere. >> well, it does. sex trafficking is a $32 billion a year business worldwide, and the number one offender and buyer of sex trafficking, particularly with children is
the united states. we're a first world country but we're the biggest offender. it is about the commerce, but my hat goes off to the fbi and those 230 and state agencies who partnered up to get these kids off the streets and punish these traffickers. >> backpage.com, we've looked at this a lot over the years. they fiercely defend themselves saying they're a great resource for law enforcement. i interviewed the lawyer that represents backpage.com last year. i want to play part of what she told me back then. >> we have 80% of our staff dedicated to policing and law enforcement, to prevent cases of exploitation. from ever making it live on the internet so we can facilitate rescues and cooperate with law enforcement to ensure convictions when there are those opportunities. >> we requested elizabeth mcdougal to talk to us on the program. she declined. we did speak to the fbi further. they told us that while a significant number of victims
rescued were found on backpage.com, they were found through the fbi combing these sites, not by backpage.com referring victims to the fbi. do you buy that argument? >> i -- it's all about money. and it's not just the fbi, it's many other police agencies, state and federal, local and some international police agencies that point the finger to backpage.com to help these exploiters of children to function. it's all about the money. and i really think that the public has to say, we all want freedom of press and first amendment. no one wants to sanction or censure the internet but i think these sites have to be held accountable because it's all about the money. they're not cooperating, they're not there as a nonprofit helping these law enforcement agencies, they're there because they facilitate these guys. >> it's also sickening to hear
that according to law enforcement, a big sporting event like the super bowl becomes a hub for child prostitution. >> that's part of america's problem, that we seem to ignore. i mean, everybody thinks child prostitution and sex trafficking is in countries like india where it is, or indonesia or cambodia, i've been to those countries, yes, it's a problem there, but we're a first world country and these guys know they go to big events like the super bowl, different big sporting events and move the girls around. another difficult problem is that we over half a million runaways in this country every year. as soon as these kids hits the streets, one in three of them are solicited and forced into sex trafficking, they go state to state, 50 countries provide girls for sex trafficking, and boys. nobody's looking for those kids. it's something we've ignored and i think the public has to say, how could we -- a first world country be the biggest offender
and the biggest buyer of sex trafficking in the world? >> john walsh, i appreciate you being on, we'll continue to follow this as we have for quite a while now. an amazing sting across this country. coming up, a jewelry heist straight out of a movie script, $136 million of jewels where hitchcock filmed the movie "to catch a thief." whether police are close to catching the real thief next. edward snowden's father on his son. and americans don't know the whole truth. but are about to find out. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yep, everybody knows that. well, did you know some owls aren't that wise? don't forget i'm having brunch with meghan tomorrow. who? meghan, my coworker. who? seriously? you've met her like three times.
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you will hear from his father about what that is like. first, how we got here. >> i am 29 years old. >> nearly two months since he showed himself to the world. the source behind the leaks. he revealed the u.s. government had forced the u.s. telecom company to hand over their phone records to millions of americans. also revealed a secret program revealed called prism, which gives the government direct access to data.
gave this interview to the guardian. >> the public is owed an explanation of the motivations behind the people and make these disclosures that are outside of the democratic mole. >> he did not hide his identity that he had his exact location revealing he was somewhere in hong kong and hinted at a life on the run. >> i could have people come after me. that is the fear i will live under for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be. >> his revelations were mixed. a hero to some but to others -- >> he is a traitor, not a hero. a giant violation of a lot. >> five days was revealed, he was charged with espionage. the u.s. sought his expedition and revoked his passport. days later snowden with the help of wikileaks managed to board a plane bound for moscow. after arriving at the airport, he went into hiding.
passing through immigration sting in the transit sound with reporters from all over the world looking for him. >> no sign of him, no one seems to know where he is. >> it was never intended as a final destination. he applied for asylum in more than 20 countries and for now he remains in the transit zone keeping largely out of sight. except for one press conference he gave nelly two weeks ago. >> a little over a month ago, i had a family, in paradise. i lives in great comfort. i also had the capability to search for and seize and read your communications. that is the power to change people's fates, and it is also a serious violation of the law. >> snowden has applied for temporary asylum in russia, saying he would be tortured and face the death penalty if returned to the united states. eric holder assured the russians the u.s. will not seek the death penalty if snowden were returned to stand trial. so far, the russians have refused to hand snowden over. he remains in the airport and according to his lawyer he is
studying russian and may end up staying in the country long-term. >> joining us now is lon snowden and bruce fine. your son is still in the airport. have you been able to communicate with him? do you know how he's been doing? >> we've been able to communicate with him indirectly. and i believe he's in reasonably good spirits. >> how does he look to you in that press conference? >> like he's lost a bit of weight, he needs a haircut. overall, he looks reasonably well. given his circumstances over the past 65 days. >> last week on nbc, you said the american people don't know the whole truth, the truth is coming. what do you think people don't understand about what your son did? >> well, i think probably that the large majority of americans have not seen his 12 minute video. i've spoken to close friends who know this is my son and we talk
and -- i realize they haven't listened to the video, they don't really understand what the fourth amendment is. so i think that there's much that's unknown. the american people, the media, to be quite honest has not done a good job of laying out the facts in digestible form. there has been a clear effort by those who have been threatened politically and/or embarrassed by these revelations to focus on the center, my son, who's revealed these, instead of the revelations. it's clear they don't want to discuss that, when i say the truth is coming, there are certain folks, myself included who are going to push and push and push until at a minimum, we have a well informed public who, they have the facts and they can make their own determination. >> one of the major truths here, the conversation we're having tonight, the very strong debates that have occurred in the
congress most recently about the loss by 12 votes to shut down these nsa programs, the fact that there will be three hearings on wednesday. they're all responsible because of what ed snowden did. we had the director of national intelligence office say, their goal was do keep the program secret forever. they tried. the only reason this was broken in the public was because of ed snowden's courage. the members of congress that knew about this, were very cryptic in explaining what was going on, despite the fact that they had a constitutional privilege to expose this to the american people. what has happened is ed snowden has made the democratic process work. the things we're talking about today, do we need these kinds of programs? >> one of the things why are son -- that your son had said was that he's sitting at his desk, a contractor, could gain access to basically anybody's e-mail, if he had the correct address, even the president's e-mail. at the time there were a lot of officials who said, that's not true. he's overstating his own importance. brian greenwald who is one of
the people who received it, the information from your son has now come forward, he has reporting that actually confirms what your son had been saying, a contractor's low level people even at their desk at the nsa or some of these other contracting agencies could gain access to tons of phone calls which are in data storage bases or people's e-mails. there's going to be testimony wednesday. how confident are you that the truth of that is going to come out? >> well, i'm not sure if it's going to come out in the senate judiciary, the same people who sat in front of the house judiciary, who were really grilled, i compliment those members on the house judiciary for, i believe it was last wednesday or the week prior, when they grilled these same individuals who were going to sit in front of the senate judiciary. but i'm disappointed it's the deputy attorney general instead of eric holder sitting there, that is the general counsel for the director of national
intelligence instead of james clapper sitting there under oath again. and it's the deputy fbi director sitting there answering these questions. >> if i could add, anderson, remember the people who are going are testifying are working under the egis of the director who when confronted with a question, by senator ron wyden, are you collecting date on on millions of americans, hundreds of millions -- director clapper said no. a flat out lie, which he tried to defend as a small untruth. >> he said, not wittingly. >> not wittingly. he has a trillion of mega bits unwittingly. we're to rely upon their self-assessment as to whether or not these technologies exist? we need outside auditing of what the nsa has been doing all these years. the nsa at present doesn't have someone who's not part of their overall program, examine whether they are complying with the content of information, unless we have some reasonable suspicion or otherwise, and why
would we expect an agency to call its own people to account 37. >> in a letter to the justice department, you describe what your son did as civil disobedience. there are those who say, look, civil disobedience is accepting the ramifications of your actions of your decision, of taking the punishment, why do you see this as civil disobedience. >> first of all, i think he is accepting the consequences. you look at his 12 minute video, and what he said, he's not living a comfortable life at this point. he's an american, he knows his country. i know my son, i know he loves his country. what he believed is that this information, the american people needed to be aware of what their government was doing to them. spying upon them. >> i would interject on this issue of civil disobedience. >> anderson, if it were true there was a comfort level that would be offered to mr. snowden. i think your question would be far more poignant. we have had four to six members
of congress convicting mr. snowden of treason. we haven't even had a single trial. we haven't had an official grand jury indictment. they're already saying he's guilty of treason. we don't have the attorney general saying he enjoys the presumption of innocence. we have the president of the united states denigrating mr. snowden as a hacker. not somebody who was trying to generate the national conversation over these drag net surveillance that the president himself said was urgent. >> the president has said he wants this conversation. this is a conversation the american public needs to have. do you believe that? >> no, i don't. it is one thing, words mean one thing. actions mean another. that's much in the same way of our national character. i'm disappointed by what i've seen. our national character is determined by what we do when we think that no one is watching, when we think that we won't be held accountable.
and it's not just a matter of what's legal, of what's constitutional, it's a matter of what's ethical. >> think of this oddity, the attorney general writes a letter to russia, he has to go out of his way we won't torture edward if he comes back. we are in that position as a country that we need to assure people we won't torture him if he's returned? >> do you believe him when he says that? when he says no death penalty and the united states doesn't torture? >> at this point i believe it would be in the best interest of the justice department. we've attempted to work with the justice department and both the people investigating this, and i just do not believe that that collaboration, the good faith exists anymore. so i'm very, very disappointed and we've attempted to get assurances, that ed would receive a fair trial. i have absolutely no faith in eric holder, the attorney general of the united states. none. >> you don't believe your son would receive a fair trial? >> absolutely not. not at this point. no, absolutely not. >> a couple things the attorney
general omitted from his letter. in trying to describe the fair trial edward would receive would be the right to confront the witnesses or the evidence against him. no secret evidence. he didn't mention that, the right that edward would have to summon witnesses in his favor. no mention of that, the presumption of innocence, no mention of that. why? these seem glaring. we know the government would try to claim classification, national security secrets, we can't disclose this to the defendant. >> when you see the way bradley manning was treated early on, do you believe your son would be basically helping those -- held no in those same conditions? >> no, i think because that was so embarrassing to our government and the people who were responsible for it, but it doesn't change -- it makes clear what the mind-set is, president obama when he was first running for president, he talked about how he -- how important whistle blowers were. june 7th, after the story broke. he told the american people, we're not reading your e-mails and we're not listening to your phone calls. on june 8, a link on the white house website that was linked to
his language regarding whistle blowers, that disappeared. >> we know that's false anyway. the "new york times" reported long ago that the nsa was reading or listening into conversations between wives and servicemen serving abroad. >> so there are those who say, see your son applying for even temporary asylum in russia and look at russia and say, that's a government that has its own intelligence apparatus, it clearly does not value dissent from the top down. should the place where your son is looking for -- should that impact the way people view what your son did? >> i think they have to look at this in context, what choice does he have? he was attempting to go elsewhere and clearly our government forced down the aircraft of evo morales, who was returning to bolivia. again, i know that we have operatives in peru and colombia,
i don't believe that would be a safe place for him. i'm not sure what would happen if he went to ecuador or venezuela. >> you think russia is the best place for him? >> i absolutely think it is the best place for him at this point. it is our government, specifically the obama administration, that has caused that. again, he was looking at going elsewhere. at this point i would hope that he -- i make no apologies, i would hope that he remains in russia, until we have assurances he would receive a fair trial here, and much of that depends on another presidential administration. >> i want to flag, this has not been discussed at length, that is the possibility that we have agreements with foreign intelligence agencies for them to circumvent the limits that the nsa has on spying on americans. we spy on their people and share the information and intelligence. we know that all the uproar in europe about our spying on their
citizens. the intelligence agency said nothing, that's a real worry that even the limits we would place on the nsa would be circumvented by the nsa going to the british and saying, why don't you spy on american citizens, hand over the information to us and we'll see what happens. >> we'll see what comes out of testimony on wednesday. good to have you on. mr. fine as well. thank you very much. pastor rick warren returns to the pulpit after the death of his son. more on his return ahead. the postal service is critical to our economy. delivering mail,
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