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isis. libya. libya here. this all began with this horrific scene here in the orange jumpsuits. 21 egyptian christians are forced to kneel and beheaded. egypt retaliating to the sickening murder of its citizens. an egyptian fighter jet en route to neighboring libya. these are the first strikes by egypt against isis at least the first that they will publicly admit to. the primary target here is in derna. egypt's military saying avenging egypt blood is our right and duty. joining me now from jordan is jomana karadsheh. who were these egyptians that
were killed? >> there were 21 of them kidnapped in december and january south of the libyan capital of tripoli and they were taken by militants there. there has been some extremist militant activity. this is the birthplace of the former leader moammar gadhafi and we've seen that for some time now. these egyptians come from i am pof verki am pofimpovershed towns. we've seen so many attacks in the past on egyptian christians and with the fall of the gadhafi regime but nothing as shocking as what we are seeing. >> we've talked and you've
covered this part of the world and how really surprised about this happening in libya? >> absolutely no surprise brooke. we've seen this happen over the years since the fall of the gadhafi this country has gone into a situation of chaos, it's awash in weapons. militias fighting for control, different agendas at play there. and during all of this time porous borders, no law and order so it was perfect setting for extremist groups to set up camps in libya. we've seen them in the past setting up training camps and jihadists are training there and going to syria and also hundreds of libyans join the fight in syria, some with the al qaeda affiliated group, al nusra front and others with isis.
there have been fears about what would happen when they come back home if they come back more radicalized and there have been reports over the past year that those fighters are returning home to really to try and establish and really tighten their grip on territory that they are already controlling in libya. so absolutely no surprise. there has been warning signs for years. we saw this back in 2012 with the attack in benghazi that kimmedkim killed ambassador stevens and three other americans. we've seen groups bowing allegiance to isis in recent months and so many libyans say the international community, the same one that helped overthrow the moammar gadhafi regime tried to help the court get back on its feet and really did not help
the country and in reason years they feel it has neglected the country and ignored this rising threat from extremists just on the doorsteps of europe. brooke? >> i want to stay on this. jomana karadsheh, thank you. this particular video of these egyptian christians being murdered, this wasn't staged in the battlefields of iraq or in syria. this was on a mediterranean beach in libya. this is proof that isis is gaining more footholds outside of those two countries that you see on your screen in red. they are emerging in algeria, libya, in yemen and egypt, afghanistan and pakistan. let's talk about this with bob sexton former counterterrorism analyst. welcome to both of you. buck we've talked about now the
tent tentacles of isis just across the mediterranean sea in europe. >> what we're seeing here is a strategy that hasn't gotten much consideration from the west but it's what isis is up to just trying to expand its main operations of iraq and syria. they call themselves the islamic state. they want more. they want to set up these affiliates across the middle east and now the strongest ones in egypt. this is part of the other strategy. even if we box in syria and iraq there are opportunities for the group to expand elsewhere and that's what this murder on video is trying to show people that they have people willing to take terrorist acts in their own hands and are gaining territory. we're just now seeing the next iteration of them acting out as
terrorists groups and trying to maintain territory outside iraq and syria. >> we know this group is all about propaganda prop began ta, propaganda. but something that was absolutely chilling he was saying to me brooke this was entirely intentional, the shedding of the blood of these christian egyptians in the mediterranean sea, with isis foreshadowing the blood they are hoping will be shed in europe. >> absolutely. i think what we need to understand brooke s. is that savagery -- savagery should not obscure the rationality of this particular strategy. it's to terrorize the enemy, to terrorize the so-called islamic state enemies and to call up more and more diluted young men into their ranks. isis now, the so-called islamic state, is seen as a winning
horse, a powerful brand. thousands of young men are flooding to syria and iraq to join in its ranks. the so-called caliphate, islamic rule resonate with thousands of young men not just in the arab and muslim world but also in other parts of the world. so what i'm trying to say is that brutality serves a rational purpose and the purpose is you want to terrorize your enemy and you want to call up potential recruits and that's what we've seen. you and i, brooke think about how many times we have talked every time we say it's going to shock us and, look 21 21 poor migrant egyptians coming from egypt, some of the poorest migrant workers in the world. they left their homes in upper egypt and came to live here to make a living to send it to their families.
they basically led them one by one and butchered them and celebrated the savagery in realtime. this tells you what this islamic isis state is all about. >> but how will they be stopped, buck? we've been reporting on this more fonts and months and months and now you have what is key and perhaps shifting this coalition with jordan and with egypt and air missions in the region playing more of an active role but still when you see these tentacles spreading into africa and beyond how are they going to be stopped? >> they are not going to be stopped by air strikes. we can obviously know it's not going to be enough for the jordan jordanian air force or the egyptians. this is counter insurgency. that requires boots on the ground and ground troops and the
notion that they are going to be able to continue precision strikes as a means of stopping these groups is unthinkable. it won't happen. it's never worked in the past. we're seeing a shift as well because there's a fight right now for jihadist primacy between the islamic state and al qaeda and aqap and arabian peninsula, they want to think of themselves as the vanguard of jihad. >> this is still in the one-upping stages? >> yes. we're seeing also a shift in strategy from instead of trying to plant terror cells around the world, an american policy that they can take down these regimes, what is happening now is they are saying look let's focus on seize the territory because once you have that you need troops and countries are
going to have to send in troops to stop them. >> same question to you, how do you contest the geography? >> you know brooke, isis will be defeated. make no doubt about it. it's not as resilient as isis. look you and i and your guests are buying into this particular ideology. particularly when the tide is in their favor. isis can only be defeated from within. can be defeated by local forces by local communities. it has to be denied the social and nocturnal oxygen and in libya, we talk about libya, the reason why isis inspired the groups in libya and other militants, outside of al sharia the one who killed the ambassador in benghazi, you have two governments basically fighting for legitimacy and you
have carry-offs. isis and so-called al qaeda family basically thrive in conflict zones. they are social parasites. so what we need to do in libya, what's the most effective weapon to defeat the so-called islamic state in libya i would say the glitch between the two government helping libya to rebuild that country, to establish a centralized government and the same thing applies to iraq and syria. let's not buy into the propaganda and mythology of isis. only arabs and muslims will defeat it with the help of the international community. >> we must shut off their oxygen. thank you both so much. we'll speak again. we're also keeping our eyes on other stories here. the suspect in the denmark shooting over the weekend.
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all right. two men are behind bars in connection with the deadly attacks in denmark. their defense attorney says they have pleaded not guilty to charges of accessory to murder and accessory to murder for helping the suspected gunman hide and get rid of the weapon. this comes hours after he opened fire at this free speech forum. swedish artist known for his
drawings of the prophet muhammad was there. the bbc has obtained a chilling audio recording when the shots began. >> why do we still say -- [ gunfire ] d then hours later gunshots at a synagogue. a security guard was killed there. we've gotten pictures from police here in denmark. we'll show it to you. according to the police the surveillance picture shows the suspect involved in a stabbing in 2013. we have nic robertson standing by but paul cruickshank, let me
go to you first? >> we know that a facebook page belonging to this gunman shortly before the attack he pledged allegiance to abu bakr al baghdadi a friend of the gunman told cnn that he was friends with this facebook profile. we don't know for sure that it's his facebook profile shortly before the attack a pledge to the eye leej jans to the head of isis. we've been told that he had no connection directly to isis but wanted to do it apparently to this information, on their behalf and would allow isis to take some ownership of this terrorist attacks. in the weeks after "charlie
hebdo," they were encouraging those in the west to do the same. >> i'm reminded of what happened in paris and we learned later that those attackers had gone overseas to train. this could be entirely different. to your point, this may be surely social media and inspired from a distance by isis and this leader who he has pledged his allegiance to. how often now paushlgsl s.paul, is this happening, what you can see on the internet calls for isis to take out people from these types of attacks? >> there was a game changer moment in september of last year when the spokesman of isis a very powerful syrian figure in the group put out a front for calling supporters in the west to launch lone wolf attacks. we've seen attacks since then in canada, in the united states in australia, in france now in
denmark. we also saw that plot in brussels. people have responded to this were in a very unprecedented way and there's a lot of concern we're going to see more of this kind of lone wolf terrorism moving forward. people with no direct connection to isis who have never gone to a training camp overseas who have just stayed home become radicalized, exposed this propaganda and feel that it's their religious duty to wage jihad back in the west. >> how will counterterrorism now be able to try to connect dots if there are even dots to be connected? what are they doing right now other than looking at his facebook page? >> they will be examining you will of his social media accounts. some of these we've been able to get ahold of of cache copies of this stuff but they'll be loob looking at all of his communication and contacts of those arrested and were they perhaps part of a gang that he was linked to or just friends
that he had in copenhagen? they'll be looking at all of that right at this point. investigations will be going around the clock. there's got to be a concern that we're going to see a lot more of this. not only in denmark and in europe but even here in the united states. every time you have an attack like this it just inspires yet more people to do this. and then isis put out another propaganda magazine where they then eulogized the attacks. >> paul cruickshank, thank you for your reporting. coming up next new developments in the murder trial of the man accused of killing the american sniper chris kril and his friend. what the booking officer at the jail revealed on the stand about eddie ray routh on the day he was arrested.
who is the subject of the hit movie "american sniper." routh's lawyer admits that he killed the men but says he was insane at the time. ed lavandera is live in stephenville texas. the jury just started to watch the videotaped confession that routh gave to police after his arrest? >> reporter: yes. fascinating moments have started to unfold here. this is probably the most significant moment in the first four days of testimony where the jury is now watching the videotaped confession. he was interviewed by a texas ranger detective just hours after he was arrested. so this was the if irsfirst time that the jury is hearing videotaped statements from eddie ray routh himself not too long after the murders of chris kyle and chad littlefield were committed. an incredibly significant moment. the videotape just started to play. before that, prosecutors were
interviewing the detective who carried out the interview with eddie ray routh. you will hear that he had dee ray routh stated that he was wrong to kill chris kyle and chad littlefield and wished he had hadn't done it and he was sorry for what he had done. this is incredibly important because the prosecution must prove that he hadeddie ray routh knew what he was doing was wrong and at some point he also says that in his conversation with his sister if you remember he drove to his sister's house after the killings and said i told her i had to kill men today. i had to get out of the situation today and they felt that these two men were going to attack him. definitely bizarre statements in this confession tape as well.
but this is a significant portion of this trial here, brooke. >> bizarre indeed. we're checking in with you every day, ed lavandera. thank you very much in texas with this trial. egypt takes revenge on isis launching two rounds of strikes against the terrorist group. now a dozen countries are involved in the terrorist group. and ice and snow dipping as far south as tennessee. the winter weather tightens its grip and it's not over yet by any stretch of the imagination.
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we are just past the bottom of the hour. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. egypt is ex acting revenge, dropping bombs over neighboring libya going after isis after release of another just sickening video showing the murder of 21 ree jipgs christians. cnn's ian lee is live in cairo. i want to ask you about these 21 lives lost but first the air strikes here. tell me about the targets of these egyptian air strikes. >> brooke they are going after isis' weapon depots as well as training facilities in the city of derna, one of isis' strong holds in libya. they have control over a large swaths of territory. we've seen mainly the focus is on this city. it's close to the egyptian border less than 200 miles
away. we saw the egyptian warplanes in two waves striking targets there. for the ee jipggyptians though this is the beginning of an operation from what we're hearing we're expecting it to continue into tonight as well. the egyptians are also looking for international support. the foreign minister is in the united states right now to talk -- or seek support from the u.n. security council. they are going to be asking that the coalition that's operating in iraq and syria expand to libya as well. they see it just as big of a threat as the threat of isis in iraq and syria. they are also going to be asking for political support and material support. i talked to retired army general who told me that they can sustain this battle for a while but after that time they are going to need more weapons. they are going to need to be replenished and they are going to be seeking help when it comes to that point. brooke? >> ian lee in cairo, thank you
so much. back now to the deadly attacks that shook denmark's capital city. a gunman fired at a cafe hosting a free speech forum and later at a synagogue. prime minister benjamin netanyahu had a message for jews in europe come to israel. >> translator: jews have been murdered again on european soil only because they are jews. this wave of attacks is expected to continue, of course, jews deserve protection in every country but we say to jews to our brothers and sisters, israel is your home. we are calling for the mass immigration from europe and call on the absorbion of mass immigration from europe. >> let me bring in peter. when you look at what happened in paris at the kosher market
you see what happened in copenhagen and the bar mitzvah and synagogue, and now a cemetery desecrated in northern france how risky is it to be jewish in europe? >> there's no question that this is a frightening time for jews in europe. the level of anti-semitic advance, the ransacking of jewish gravies is jewish graves is really frightens. this is not what the jews faced in the 1940s because today you have democratic governments in places like den marks and france trying to protect you. it's not always doing so effectively as you might like but we do not have governments perpetrating the attacks themselves. still, that's cold comfort for those jews that don't feel safe going to synagogue, going into a kosher shup kosher supermarket or in another
jewish market in france or anywhere else. >> what would be the motivation for benjamin netanyahu to say to come do israel? >> well israel is a country that has flourished because of jewish immigration and has always wanted to make the case that jewish life was better safer in a jewish state. i think the best response to benjamin netanyahu came from shimon peres when they said they love the idea of living in israel that's one thing. but we should not aspire to a situation where jews go to israel because they are afraid. we should demand that countries around the world create safety and security for their jewish populations and for all of their populations and if people want to live in israel because they
believe they can live a more fulfilling life there, that, of course is their choice. we shouldn't desire that they go there because out of fear. >> i know jewish leaders around the world are rejecting the idea that jews should flee to israel. i want to play some sound from a rabbi, the former chief rabbi of denmark speaking earlier on cnn today. here he is. >> i think that the prime minister of israel is allowed to say what he wants. i don't think it was the right time. i don't think it was the right way to say it. i hope that if jews want to live in israel i think if they are going to israel it is because they want to live in israel not because they are afraid of living in denmark. >> do you think perhaps part to his point or your point, that by leaving denmark or france out of fear out of fear to go to
israel? >> right. and with a country where it's shaped by jewish rhythms, it's important to realize that the greatest creations of living in a multicultural society, surrounded by people with all ethnicities and a source of incredible creativity for jews around the world and whether it be france, denmark or the united states i think what we should all aspire to is a world in which jews can live safe fulfill whole lives both in a jewish state and also around the world and benjamin netanyahu is focused on the idea that we not
lose the potential greatness of jewish life. >> how, then can this anti-semitism be fought? a rabbi was saying that there needs to be a task force to help fight this. you know i don't know how much that would really help advance this. and fight back on this hate. but have you heard suggestions peter? >> i think it's incredibly important that people within power in france and denmark who are nonjews say as the president of france did a few weeks ago, if the jews were to leave france then france would not be france. to show that this is not just an attack on jews but all people who cherish european culture, who cherish danish or french culture, it's an attack on them. secondly this is a sickness that i think is coming out of
the breakdown of states in the middle east and the failure to integrate young muslims in europe. and that this is a tremendous challenge for europe. the question of how to give young european muslims who feel cultural alienated who see no economic hope how to give them a sense of hope and belonging in their own societies, the irony is that when european muslims feel a greater sense of belonging in their own societies as safe and secure people with opportunity, that will help to secure jewish lives in europe as well. >> if there are no jews in france then there would be no france. point taken. peter beinart, thank you. >> thank you. another story we're following much closer here the snow and ice and freezing freezing temperatures. not just in the northeast again for you but as far south as tennessee and georgia. we'll take you live coming up. plus it is presidents' day.
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upon more than a dozen states and impacting millions of people in new england buried under a foot of snow. now facing dangerously cold temperatures windchills making it feel like it's 40 below zero in some parts of new england. you have the cold air pushing southward as well bringing ice to states like tennessee and arkansas and prompting north care lean carolina's governor to declare a state of emergency. we have will ripley in boston. let's begin with you. tell me how much snow how
freezing freezing freezing are you? >> reporter: 7 1/2 feet of snow since january. you can see cities are still like this. sidewalk covered in snow. there's a danger because of the subzero temperatures that you're talking about. right now we're a balmy 18 degrees but windchills could get well below zero. there's a fact that people are out shoveling and one confirmed death, a man who had a heart problem, he collapsed and died in his 50s. people say you need to be careful. and then you have the snow piles all over the city. people are sliding down them and sliding right into the street. that pose as danger. parents are being told to watch their kids. also believe it or not, some people posting videos of themselves in youtube jumping out of their windows onto the snow piles which could be really hard and icy. nick valencia what are you seeing in nashville? >> reporter: not quite as bad there as in boston but here it's
miserable. officials predicted between 3 and 7 inches of snow. we've been here since 3:00 a.m. and we've seen a lot of freezing rain. this is the result us of what was left behind. this is sort of a microcosm, a snapshot. on the point of the roads, for the most part they are pretty passable. that's because you have emergency management that has done a lot over the weekend and in the last 24 hours to salt and brine these roads. even still, as the day has gone on people have come out to see what the fuss is all about. we'll send it back to you. >> go get inside get some blues and barbecue nick valencia and will ripley thank you so much for being out there. i feel so bad for those in boston. >> everyone wants us to wear the red jackets. that means you're out in weather like this. >> and the hats. let's not talk about that. in honor of the presidents' day holiday today, tonight at
9:00 you'll see something you have never seen before. six of our anchors go head to head for brain power. don lemon? >> i know nothing about that. >> i'm kidding because i love. here's a little taste. >> i think the team that gets the most right will win. >> jake tapper he asks me the most obscure, random questions. >> he was trying to physically intimidate me. >> strategery. >> i'm a good guesser. >> they have combination of smarts. >> i've been doing this every day. a thousand times a day. >> he asks me which president had 15 children? i said i don't know. >> i want tapper to go down. i'm in the middle of my show and he's sending stupid questions about presidents. >> what makes us a good team is that unlike the other guys we actually really like each other.
>> i'm watching jake tapper behind the camera as i'm looking at you here. jake is in new york for "the lead." >> i have no did you do your home work? did you really study up on presidents past? >> i did. i did. like i was cramming for an exam. we have jobs. i have like three jobs. i do radio, i do this and i do other stuff. it was tough. >> i saw pieces of equipment being carted out of there. this was a thing. can i -- let's just put don on the spot. >> why do you want to do that? don't you want to know about the show? >> question number one, which president was a self-taught man. grew up poor and as a child worked as a tailor's apprentice? andrew johnson, chester a. arthur rutherford hayes, grover cleveland? >> i know the answer. the reason i know that because you just put tailor self-made,
andrew johnson. i just did short words, short little memory things. tailor andrew johnson. that's how i get it. but here's the thing. even if you know it you've got to be fast and it's all about the buzzer. you got to get the buzzer right and it's got to be fast. some people me chris, maybe tapper maybe berman they would answer the question before anderson even got the question out. >> did they ding? >> yeah. they buzzed it. >> so they were that good. >> some people had more of a stake in it. >> i can't imagine what that stake would possibly be. this is the thing. it's been like fort knox around here. i was part of it and i have been saying who is it that won. none of the people are saying. it wasn't like it was multiple choice. it was different kinds of trivia questions. >> yes. we were all nervous, oh, my gosh we're going to look silly. then we realized you know what just have fun. i'm not expected to know everything about presidents. we were joking around with jake
because he's our chief washington correspondent but still, he's not expected to know everything about presidential history. we all just had fun. we played the game we had rehearsals because it's different for us. every time we played the game someone else won. that's the beauty of it. if we had played another game someone else would have won. at the end, even if you were like zero and you were behind you could still come back and win the whole thing. it was really a lot of fun. >> was there any jumping up and down and spiking the football involved? >> there was. i actually got mad because this is new for us. i didn't know the rules. i didn't know the rules to one thing and it was like you guys, we need to do that over again. they're like don, it's new, have fun. >> this is serious dvr, watch it over and over and over. >> the easiest job is that guy on the screen. he didn't have to study anything. he kept saying i'm lucky i'm not you guys i got a good agent. >> here's the deal. you have to watch tonight, 9:00 eastern.
ding! thank you very much. don lemon, on cnn. will you tweet during it? >> of course. >> of course. >> guess who's going to win? >> don't know. thank you. appreciate it very much. very exciting. coming up hackers hitting the jackpot. a billion dollar theft ring uncovered after investigators found an atm spitting out money.
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this could be the biggest bank heist in history. hackers have reportedly stolen $1 billion from more than 100 banks all around the world, some of those including the united states. they rigged atms to actually spit out cash. all of this by installing spying software on bank computers. lori siegel is with me. tell me how exactly they pulled this off. >> this is pretty unbelievable. essentially it was something as simple as a phishing e-mail.
an employee clicked on it downloaded something they shouldn't have and downloaded spyware. the hackers waited learned a lot about the banks and credentials and acted as bank tellers, setting up fake accounts putting lots of money into their own accounts. what you mentioned, which was fascinating, they made atms spew money. they were able to remotely access it and had what we call money mules come with bags and pick up the money and run away as the atm was remotely spewing money. this was unprecedented. you talk to people they were actually able to pull this off over a two-year period. >> money mules. who are these bank robbers? where do investigators think they are from? >> you can't really put it to one hacker group but this is kind of a collective group, people from china, eastern europe russia. a lot of different people come together to do this. i spoke to a security researcher who uncovered the hack and called this the ocean 11 of hack because there were so many different masterminds behind this that made it happen. >> are they still happening?
what sort of preventive measures do banks have at their disposal to make sure this doesn't happen again? >> what's scary, this is probably still going on. banks likely do not know whether or not they have been compromised. they need right now to be looking at their outgrowing traffic. the irony is some of these banks if they had an updated version of microsoft office they would have been able to avoid this completely. you have to patch up your systems and make sure they are updated. >> spewing out cash with people running by to grab it and roll. wow. lori, thank you so much. that is it for me. i'm brooke baldwin in new york. if you missed any of the stories, cnn.com. we will be back here same time tomorrow. meantime sitting next to me you got jake tapper. "the lead" starts right now. who is this new english-speaking messenger for isis? i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead."
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