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against isis. my interview with the prime minister. my first since the stunning election comeback, answering the critics. >> what we need to have is a new political mentality, a new plit tall culture, a new political approach, and this is what we call new turkey. >> also ahead, a new myanmar, a landslide for democracy if n one of the world's most isolated
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nations. early results spell victory after decades of house arrest and strong support from president obama. terror, this vital u.s. ally couldn't be more important in the fight against isis. it's been detaining 38 suspected militants today and it's clear that the isis terrorizing tent cals are spreading. n how to defeat isis and end the
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war in syria will be top of the agenda when president obama comes here next week for the g 20 summit with other world leaders. in his first interview, storm back to power in last sunday's election, i asked the prime minister about that, and about charges that presidentered juan. >> welcome back to the program. lots to talk about. the ak's stunning comeback and victory in the last election and obviously the rise of isis threat. can i start by asking you, the presumed now bombing to the russian jet liner in sharm el sheikh, is that a game changer in isis capability? >> of course, this big crime against humanity. this is not an attack against a russian plane. this is an attack against all of
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us. it shows that if a crisis is not being solved in a particular region, it's difficult to contain it in other countries as well. therefore, it is the right time to act together. >> with all the talk about more and more nations beefing up their response to isis, is trrk, would turkey, under the right conditions agree to be a ground force? >> ground force is something we have to talk together and share, as i told into the last interview. there's a need of a greater strategy. air campaign and ground troops. but turkey alone can't take all this burden. if there's a coalition, then there's a strategy, turkey is ready to take part of in all sense. >> including on the ground? >> of course. there's a need of integrity otherwise. just to make a ground attack against isil, but continue to have power on the ground instead of isil and other terrorist
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group may emerge. we have to solve syrian crisis in a comprehensive manner. >> so i understand what you're saying is a condition for turkey to be more involved would be an agreement also against asaad? >> yes. and against all groups and regimes. creating this, this problem to us, and every day or many days in a week, we are making -- conducting aid campaigns against isil in the coalition. but it is not enough. we are observing this. now we are suggesting to our allies for many months and now we are suggesting again to have a safe haven, and to push isil far away from our border. >> what do you make of the united states, of europe, and especially of russia saying that
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asaad must and can stay for a period of time? >> i don't think that yours and allies are saying this. >> yes, they are. >> no. >> can stay. >> no. the question is -- >> as part of the transition, mr. prime minister. >> as a part. so the question is not how and how long asaad will stay. the question is when and how asaad will go. what is solution? solution is very clear. answer. one day morning of syrian refugees decide to go back to syria assuming there's a peace in syria, then this is a solution. and if asaad stays in power in damascus, i don't think any refugee will go back. there's a need of a state by state strategy, yes, but what is the end game? what is the light at the end of the tunnel? that's more important. >> why do you think your party
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one so many more points this time than it did last time. obviously, they wanted stability. is it just the violence, you think that brought them out. were you surprised? >> we fought against terrorism. we took economic measures. we prepared a new decoratio decf campaign, and all these things have changed the mind of the people. sincerity, moderation, and stability. >> okay. moderation and stability. what do you make of this list of descriptions that people inside and outside use to describe president erd juan. autocratic, divisive, pugnacious, and paranoid. >> these are, of course, everybody can criticize us, but this does not reflect reality. why? first of all, the most important
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result of this election is the voter turnout is 85%, and almost half of them, 49%, 49.4% voted for our party. it means that there cannot be any questioning of the democracy of our party. coming to the -- around 20 political parties ran in this election. everybody made their own position in politics. nobody was prevented to say anything. >> obviously the prez isss is a matter of great concern inside and outside this country. there have been around 100 people who have been cracked down upon for charges such as insulting the president or other such things. are you not worried about what people say? >> no.
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we are worried. i was a columnist in 1990s when i was in economic life. so freedom of press and intellectual freedom is a red line for me. >> i want to ask you this. even the co-founder of the party, co-founded the party along with mr. erdowan and you has said there's a need to upgrade our democracy. what do you think he needs? >> there's a need of upgrade in every democracy. >> he said ours. >> all of them. just before coming here, i was watching tv about moments in the united states, demonstrations and universities. every democracy needs to be more perfect. >> all right. how about yours? >> of course. we need to do more, and my first agenda will be tomorrow i have meeting. there will be new reforms, political and economic reforms
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which i will be declaring in the next two weeks. >> practically the day the results came through, you said that there is a need to keep moving toward getting enough votes to change the constitution, and to increase the powers of the president, sort of an american executive style presidency. maybe even more powers. that's what the president has said, anyway. why does he need more powers? >> first of all, we never said more powers. i never said more powers to anyone. first, we have to be very clear in this manner. today we don't have enough vote in the parliament to change the constitution. i will be meeting with all the political leaders in the parliament for a new constitution. >> i just want to sum up. why does the president need more powers? >> this is not a question. >> why does the constitution need to be changed? >> this is the wrong question.
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we want to have a much more clearer political system. the existing system is not working well. i, as the chairman of the governing party will be meeting with all the position leaders for a constitution based on individual rights, freedom, a balance between freedom and security, imperialism, separation of power -- >> separation of power? >> of course. and if american or a system is not totalitarianism, if a chairman parliamentarian system, turkey may not be totalitarian. the problem is mentality. what we need is a new political mentality and culture and rhetoric, a new political
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approach, and this is what we call new turkey. >> everybody will be watching. >> of course. everybody has the right to watch. we will act. you will watch. >> on that note, mr. prime minister, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> now, there's an old adage that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely but myanmar's champion of democracy puts a different spin on it. next, we go to myanmar where the ruling military may be on the verge of losing their power in the nation's first real democratic election. is never easy. doing your own thing, making your own way can be pretty, well, bold. rickie fowler is redefining what it means to be a golfer.
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she's gotten support from many people. in 2012 j he was the first ever u.s. president to go to myanmar. the bid to push the country toward democracy and a way for military rule, a pillar of his foreign policy. ivan watson is there and has our report on the historic days for that nation emerging from isolation into the democratic fold. >> reporter: the people are singing and dancing in the streets. celebrating as myanmar's largest opposition party claims to have won a landslide victory in sunday's parliamentary elections. the official results are just trickling in still, but the military-backed ruling party has conceded defeat, and for once, people here feel like their voices have been heard. they lined up before dawn on
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sunday, hours before polling stations opened. committed to casting their ballots. critics say there are serious structural flaws in sunday's parliamentary election. and yet, it's still being promoted as the closest thing myanmar has seen to a democratic national election in 25 years. >> the atmosphere in these polling stations is hushed and solemn. for many people, this is the first time they've ever voted in a general election. some here hope this election will help bring an end to decades of military rule. and many have pinned those hopes on this woman, aung san suu kyi, the noble peace prize winner and leader of the country's largest opposition party, the national league for democracy. the last time her party competed in a national election was in
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1990. the party one but the military annulled the results and arrested her and many of her colleagues. this time myanmar's president vows that the election results will be respected. it could still take days before final results are officially announced. but that hasn't stopped these people from daring to believe that their country may be on the verge of an historic change. ivan watson, cnn. >> and just a short while ago, i spoke about that change, the hope and the challenges ahead to histo a historian. >> welcome to the program. >> thank you very much. >> how exciting, the first freely contested elections. what is the state of play right
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now? how much as aung san suu kyi's party won? >> the official election results are coming out slowly. officially only the results of a couple of dozen different stwen sis have been given but unofficially, the predictions are all toward a landslide. perhaps approaching or even exceeding 400 seats all together, which is far more than anyone night have predicted even a few days ago. >> and is that more or enough of a two-thirds majority that she needs in order to be able to alter the constitution and name the next president? >> it's very complicated. if the nld wins by 400 or more seats, they'll have a majority in parliament despite the fact that the army will automatically appoint 25% of that same parliament. >> many people have said will it bring us democracy because the
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army will still have a major say in the way the place is run, while, on the other hand, aung san suu kyi has said if she has a majority, she'll be above the president. how is that going to work out? >> the big question is if this mixed system is going to be the first step toward a genuine democracy or if it's going to remain in this mixed or hybrid state for the time being. >> let's just talk about it from a u.s. perspective, a western perspective. obviously, the u.s. had a huge amount of impact, and really has seemed to have won the country away from more chinese influence toward a more western engagement. >> i think from a westerner perspective, it's true some of the pressure and persuasion that was put on the military regime five years ago, helped in starting the democratic
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transition, but i think the transition began first and foremost because within the military there was a growing awareness at the extent to which the country was becoming impoverishes, and a deep desire to catch up with the rest of the region and move toward a different future. i think the initial moves that some western governments made to embrace the initial limited chains that took place was very important, but i think we have to put that in context of a country that was very much ready for change and a military elite, i think that was trying in its own way to move in a different direction. >> heady days. this unbelievable transition is one of the last hold outs from a military tick day or theship, taking a step toward democracy. thank you very much. >> thank you.
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>> and after a break, we return here to turkey. because some of the worst terrorism in this country's history happened in the run up to the election. next we imagine a country that believes it cast a vote for peace and stability. i brto get us moving.tein i'm new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength. i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals.
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having faith that a vote you cast for security will mean just that. as the turkish people try to come to terms with the worst terror attack in their history. last month, this capital was rocked by suicide bombers. at a preelection rally for
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democracy and peace. more than 120 people were can killed, and many hundreds more were injured. this memorial still stands outside ankara's central train station where the bombs went off. the government blamed isis while many people blame the government for not properly securing the march. the country and all those affected are still struggling to come to terms with the horrors of that day when they were just trying to send a clear message with their rally before it was so violently disrupted. >> i hope that it will be heard. because this struggle for peace, for democracy will never end. it's been continuing for hundreds of years, thousands of years in all countries. and, yeah. it will be heard. i hope so. >> and she, too, will be watching the prime minister's pledge to usher in a new turkey after these latest elections.
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and that's it for our program tonight. remember, you can always see all our interviews online at and follow me on facebook and twitter. thank you for watching and good-bye from trrk. turkey. ♪ these hands were made to work so i can't waste time with stripped or rusted fasteners. that's why i love the craftsman extreme grip line. screwdrivers with diamond- coated tips deliver 4 times more grip than standard ones... and sockets that fit snug on rounded bolts for 14 times more gripping power to keep me moving. craftsman hand tools are protected by a lifetime full warranty. this holiday put craftsman at the top of your wish list. ♪ plan well and enjoy life... ♪ or, as we say at unitedhealthcare insurance company, go long. how you plan is up to you. take healthcare. make sure you're covered for more than what just medicare pays...
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