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this nonsinkhole makes me want to sink my teeth into a stack of flap jacks. not a stack of cars. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. thanks for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" starts now. donald trump says this is a strange election. tonight a new chapter from stabbings to starbucks, why the fourth republican debate could change the entire race. plus, new demands from the mizzou students who forced the resignation of the university's president. but how far are schools willing to go as racial tensions rise? and if the u.s. is confident a bomb took down the russian flight, are u.s. flights at risk, too? cnn goes into a bomb factor to show how easy it is to spark an explosion.
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i'm pamela brown in for john and kate. thank you for being here with us today. right now the 2016 republican candidates for president are getting ready to answer questions and defend themselves against possible attacks. tonight's debate in milwaukee will be the fourth time the candidates have gone head to head but only eight will be taking part this time. it's also the first debate since ben carson began to clash with the media about his past. and the first debate since marco rubio's rise. the trump and bush campaigns have been targeting the senator since his last strong performance. going into tonight's debate rubio and ted cruz are tied for third place behind trump and carson. let's talk more about the showdown with cnn's sunelin in milwaukee. what can we expect tonight? >> reporter: i think the spotlight will be focused on ben
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carson. he's been under the microscope this week about all these questions of his past. his response has been to go after the media aggressively, forcefully. it will be interesting to see if he brings that same sense of argument up on the debate stage tonight. the same goes for marco rubio. he, too, has been under scrutiny in the past few weeks over his past, specifically over his messy financial statements. and it certainly will make him a big target tonight by other candidates for this issue, also because he's doing better in the polls. they'll all likely go after him. i would say no one has more to prove than jeb bush in the time since the last debate he has hired a media trainer, someone who will help him. the goal is to make him more aggressive, more boisterous up there on stage. bush said his goal tonight is to be himself and to speak his mind. it will be interesting to see how he changes things up. also look out for donald trump. in the past when the debates have been focused on the issues, things of substance, he's faded
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into the background a lot. this debate will be focused on economic policy, so it will be interesting if trump with his business background he'll be able to step up and have a little more substance behind that style. >> so, the discussion will likely be different. the form format of tonight's debate different than the previous three. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: from the start the dynamics will be different. there will be eight candidates instead of ten. mike huckabee and chris christie were downgraded to the undercard that will happen before the main debate. this provides chris christie a big moment. he did well in the last debate. now being with the other three lower tiered candidates, it gives him a potential to stand out. that will be interesting to watch. the moderators have changed up a little about the format. the candidates now will have 60 seconds to respond to any attacks made against them, that's double, so this could set up potentially a more fiery
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debate than the last one. >> thank you so much. the bush versus rubio showdown could bring the most drama tonight. the mentor versus the mentee. the bush super pac is ready to spend $20 million to stop rubio and damage his reputation. but rubio's team seems to be ready for them. listen to this new ad campaign from his campaign. >> i'm a huge marco fan. he's probably the most articulate conservative on the scene today. has the fortitude to be a good president. so proud of his high voltage energy. i'm so proud of his enthusiasm. i'm so proud of his elagainst. >> i'm a huge marco fan. >> i'm marco rubio and i approve this message. >> let's talk more about brett o'donnell, a republican strategist and debate coach. also with us, douglas holtz, a republican strategist, worked in the george w. bush white house and advised john mccain's 2008 presidential campaign. douglas, to you first. how does bush attack rubio after
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he heaps so much praise on him the past several years, as we just saw in that ad? >> this is the first debate where everyone has something to gain by attacking marco rubio. he has proven to be a very good debater. he comes in with a game plan and executes it. bush has not done very well. i think this is one of the key match-ups tonight. i also think it's worth taking a look at ted cruz, who is also a very good debater. has come in and been very successful. his super pac is also running ads against rubio. how marco gets through the attacks tonight is one of the key themes of the debate. >> ard koing to "the new york times" article attacking rubio is a key part of the bush campaign right now. i'm curious to you, brett, even if the bush campaign comes up with an effective argument against rubio, what does bush need to do to adequately deliver that message? this is something we've seen he has struggled with in the past. >> he has. he's lost both exchanges so far
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in major debates. once to trump and once to marco in the last debate. for him to be effective, he has to litigate the attack. he has to not just prosecute the attack on the front end, he has to be able to answer what marco says back to him. last debate marco rubio had a very effective response to george -- or to jeb, and he could not counter that back. he didn't have a second line in response to marco's return. >> we heard the report that his coach is -- debate coach trying to teach him how to be more aggressive. perhaps we'll see that play out tonight. "the new york times" report says some bush donors are warning him not to attack a guy he mentored for years. so, what do you think? although this point does bush have a choice? could an attack on rubio damage them both? >> i think he has to differentiate himself not just
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from rubio but the others and that involves a certain amount of attack but the bigger objective for bush is to take a debate that's supposed to be about the issues and project his mastery of the issues in an effective fashion. he came into this race as the person who was supposed to be the master of policy detail. he has a website full of policy plans. but he's never delivered those in a compelling fashion on the public stage. this is the night where he has to be able to do more than just be another person attacking people. donald trump attacks people. that's not enough. he's got to be able to speak to the policy. >> and let's turn to donald trump -- >> i agree -- >> go ahead. >> what i was going to add is i disagree a little with doug. i think it's a big mistake for jeb to be attacking marco. they're very similar candidates. i know he has to differentiate himself eventually, but right now he really needs to be going after the front-runner in the race, which is donald trump and ben carson. those are the guys at the top of the pack. i don't think he gets as much
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attacking marco as he thinks he does. i do agree with doug that he has to get his policies out there. he has to have a message in the debate that rises above every other candidate. so far, that has not been the case. >> and let's talk about the man leading the pack, donald trump, as you mentioned. he actually weighed in on ben carson's clash with the media over his past. let's listen to what trump said last night on the campaign trail. >> you stab somebody and the newspapers say you didn't do it. and you say, yes, i did. i did it. no you didn't. yes, i did. i stabbed him and it hit the belt. and they said you didn't do it. if they said i didn't do it, i'd be so happy. this is the only election in history where you're better off if you stab somebody.
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what are we coming to? >> there we go. we heard donald trump sort of ratcheting up his attacks against ben carson. i think it's safe to assume we'll see some of that play out tonight. as a debate coach, what does carson need to do? will the media be a target tonight? will anyone talk about hillary clinton? >> i think carson's had a very effective response to these charges. i think he needs to stick with that even in the face of attacks from donald trump. he needs to pare those off, he needs to say this is not a fabrication on his part and go after the media. make the media your foil just as ted cruz did in the last debate. it was very effective for him. it's been very effective for carson over the past few days to say, i've been getting it worse than anyone. this is a media attack on me. and play the victim rather than getting into a back and forth with donald trump. i think it's a big mistake for
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donald trump to really be going after carson on this. because there are a lot of carson thesympathizers be who a donald trump sympathizers and i think he may be turning them off. >> i see you shaking your head. thank you so much for coming on. we have to move along. but we appreciate you all sharing your perspective. tonight although 11:00 p.m. eastern, a special post-debate wrap-up. join anderson cooper for a look at the issues that dominated the discussion and see who came out ahead right here on cnn. and this just into cnn about the democratic race for president. monmouth university poll in the early voting state of south carolina shows hillary clinton maintaining a huge lead over bernie sanders. she's got nearly 70% of the vote there to sanders 21%. clinton doing especially well with african-american voters. three out of four saying she would do a good job addressing their concerns. only 40% say the same about sanders.
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a new curriculum and a new staff, those are just some of the new demands by the university of missouri students after their president resigned. but how far can schools go? we'll debate. plus, we're now learning why police officers say they chased a father and son before killing the 6-year-old little boy. what they claim the father did right outside of a bar. and as the u.s. gets more confident a bomb took down that russian passenger jet, cnn goes inside a bomb factory to show just how vulnerable american flights may be. >> that is how many feet per second? the future belongs to the fast.
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all lies on the university of missouri this morning after a student-led revolt chancellor and president stepping down. the announcements brought cheers on campus, as we see right here. today the football team, which had refused to play until the president resigned is set to resume practice. students and faculty who were taking part in the protests are now heading back to their classings. and graduate student john butler at the center of the revolt has ended his hunger strike. >> it was everybody who chose to stand up in this time who made this possible. this is not jonathan butler. this was the mizzou community for one of the first times i've ever seen stand together united. >> but it is not mission accomplished yet for these students. so what changes must come next? let's bring in cnn legal analyst paul cowen and laura coates, a
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civil rights attorney. what is your reaction to this student revolt? it certainly shows the power of protest, but how far can these students go with their demands? >> what it showed is the power of the purse. while many people applauding the football program for being the impetus of the president resigning. it was a cost analysis of not only the millions of dollars brought in by the university football program and also under title xi when they have to be proce proactive. to that end the students can go far in their demands to ensure that any investigation by the civil rights division demonstrates the university has complied with their title 6 obligations. >> it seemed like the, quote/unquote, game-changer once the football team stepped up and protested this. do you think this was all about
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the money more than anything? >> i would have to agree with laura on this. if you look at the statistics, black students, african-american students, are about 8% of the student population at the university of missouri. so, they're not a majority. they're not even a large minority at the university. but they wheeled enormous influence because of the sports programs, and as laura explained, title 6. if you look at the way colleges are handling rape cases now, they have special procedures in place, all of that has to do with the federal government threatening to withdraw funding unless they act. the spectre of federal involvement really causes these campuses to move. >> laura, what about these new demands, new curriculum, new staff, things like that. they've already ousted the chancellor and the president, but they're not ending their fight here. >> no, they're not. in fact, their list is eight demands long. part of what they're asking for is retention of diverse students. they're asking for diverse
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faculty members. they're asking for more funding allocated to programs that actually help marginalize students who feel their experiences have been trivialized by the administration. there's one particular aspect of their demands that has a lot of people having a visceral reaction. that is for the president of the university, not only to step down, but to acknowledge what they call the white privilege. and because of that demand, people are really turning a side eye and being a little adverse to their actual demands when, in fact, their radicalism had to have a radical perspective. however, what they're really asking for, the remaining seven, are really worthwhile and valid points that title 6 already requires. >> but we're seeing this play out, these grievances play out at other universities. missouri, yale, ithica college. where do you strike that balance between free speech and protecting students' feelings? >> you know, i think the
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administrators have to start acting like grownups and evaluate on a merit basis the demands and not just collapse because there's been a demonstration. and i think they should do that at the university of missouri and other universities. in the '60s when they faced this, they gave into everything. eliminated core curriculums, radically changed universities. i'm not so sure it was a good idea. >> there's a first amendment right to speak your mind and say things even if they're unpopular viewpoints. the supreme court has said the university is the ideal setting to have this sort of universe of conflicting and competing ideas. however, at its core, your rights stop where mine begin. my right to attend a university that receives federal funding from taxpayers, i have the right to have an inclusive environment and not to be traumatized through racial discrimination. have you the right to speak what you want. but when they're in conflict, title 6 wins. >> paul callan, laura coates, interesting to hear your
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perspective. up next, a judge ambushed in her own driveway. shot as she was driving home and now someone's in custody. hear about his connection to this judge. plus, donald trump has made it his biggest issue and now a judge ruling against president obama's efforts to keep millions of illegal immigrants from being deported. the details just ahead.
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police in houston are questioning a man in connection with the shooting of a judge in austin, texas. judge julie kocurek was shot and wounded in the driveway of her home friday night. the man being questioned in police custody was arrested on an unrelated fugitive warrant but officials say he is connected to that judge. local media is reporting that it could have been a planned ambush. a garbage can was left in front
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of her security gate, forcing her to get out of her car and move it when she was shot. no criminal charges have been filed yet in the shooting. new details this morning about the police chase that ended with a 6-year-old boy dead. and two city marshals charged with his murder. a source telling cnn the city marshals began pursuing the boy's father after witnessing an argument between the father, chris few, and his girlfriend. marshals aallege it was a, quote, domestic abuse incident. mark valencia joins us from marksville, louisiana, with more. >> reporter: good morning, pamela. it was that domestic dispute that led marshals to pursue chris few. ultimately ending at a dead end with deputies firing at least 18 rounds into the car from two different guns. chris few was injured critically. he's still in the hospital recovering. it was his little boy, 6-year-old jeremy mardis hit
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five times in the head and chest and killed as a result of the shooting. today marks one week since that shooting happened and there is still no answer as to why deputies used lethal force. this is a small community, about 5,000 people, tight-knit where people have reputations, people seemingly tied to each other. people are they'rizing why they believe officers used lethal force. people are tied here, close together. the district attorney has re kused himself from this case because the assistant district attorney is the father of one of these deputies now charged with murder. a gag order has been put in place. that motion filed yesterday. we don't expect to get much more information about those -- from those attached to this case. meanwhile, overnight, pamela, those deputies have been transferred about 40 miles away to alexandria, louisiana, where local officials here say they will better be able to deal with them and segregate them from the general population. everybody here still very much heartbroken by this little boy's death. >> absolutely. really across the nation. anyone paying attention to this story, heartbroken.
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thank you so much. happening right now, the obama administration is scrambling to get its immigration plan back on track. the question, though, is it too late? a federal appeals court has ruled that president obama overreached his authority in trying to shield up to 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation. cnn legal analyst paul callan is back with us and we're also joined by cnn supreme court reporter arian. we're just getting news in from the department of justice that it plans to appeal the ruling from the circuit court saying the department disagrees with the fifth circuit's adverse ruling and intends to seek further review from the supreme court. the big question is, first of all, what is the significance of the circuit court ruling and do you think the supreme court will take this up? >> well, as you said, and as you know, this it definitely going to the supreme court. you remember it all started back in november. the president announced these programs with great fanfare.
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it came to a screeching halt in november when one federal district court blocked it from going forward. he ruled narrowly but the effect blocked it nationwide. at the time the obama administration went and said, look, let these programs go into effect pending appeal. the appeals court said, no way. it heard arguments last july. and then only issued its opinion last night. and it was a broader opinion than the district court. it said that the administration didn't have the legal authority to go through with this. so now, as you said, it's going to go to the supreme court. the big issue will be the timing because supporters of the president want the court to hear it this term. in order to do so, they have to get their legal briefs in very quickly. probably by the mid-winter in order for it to be heard this term. it's likely that if that happens, the supreme court will take it up. supporters of the law think the court will rule in their favor -- supporters of the president think the court will
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rule in their favor, giving the president broad authority in this area. they look to precedent and they say that's why they're going to win. >> what do you think, paul? >> it's a fascinating cause because it involves two categories of immigrants. one are the parents of children who are american citizens. the parent is here illegally, is undocumented but the children maybe were born in the united states. there are about 4.3 million of them. the second category consists of children who came into the united states many, many years ago, grew up here, and they should be allowed to remain. here's how president obama went around the congress on this and around the law on this. he said, i'm the chief prosecutor. i'm in charge of the department of justice. he's really issuing an executive order to his prosecutors not to prosecute in these cases, to defer action in these cases of these categories for an extensive period of time. the courts are saying, well, you know, you're trying to evade the
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law by using discretion as a prosecutor. it's an interesting theory they used. and i'll be fascinated to see what the supreme court does. they'll probably, i think, kick it over so it doesn't get involved with the presidential election, but, you know, anything could happen here. >> i was going to say, because as we've seen, it's a hot-button issue in the presidential election. it was interesting how the judge that disagreed in the circuit court with this decision was really upset about how long it took them to reach this decision. why was that? >> immigration groups said, look, we know this appeals court doesn't like these programs. they tip their hat to it, so they should have gotten an opinion out much sooner than they did so it could get in front of the court and be heard this term. that dissenting judge last night called the majority out on it and said they shouldn't have taken so long to release the opinion. >> she did not hold back. thank you so much. really interesting to see how this will play out. a kitchen clock timer, a wristwatch, even a phone can be used to set off an explosion.
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up next, how just a half pound of dynamite could easily cripple a passenger plane. we'll be right back. and a 9-year-old lured to an alley and gunned down, plus a teenager who tried to escape the violence in chicago killed while walking back from a barber shop. children caught in the gunfire, just ahead. ♪
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security lines at american airports. what kind of bomb could have been used and what kind of damage could even a small bomb do? we went to the experts to find out. >> reporter: that explosion a half pound of dynamite, a conventional explosive mainly used in industrial settings. it packs a massive wallop. the explosion moving about 19,000 feet per second. it could easily cripple a passenger aircraft. seems too simple. >> yeah, it is. well, when the bad guys make the improvised ones, it's the same process. you can see how fast it could be done. >> reporter: c-4, more powerful than dynamite. that is how many feet per second? >> 30,000. >> reporter: that's just over a half pound of c-4, a plastic explosive, also conventional, tough to go out and buy in the united states, but in some countries, a similar explosive
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can be bought on the black market. in the case of metrojet 9268 u.s. officials believe an unsophisticated device using conventional explosive may have brought down the airbus 321. that it was possibly placed in the luggage compartment a short time before takeoff. all of these products in this size is big enough to create a very big blast. >> correct. >> reporter: trip wire's owner worked for the government as an explosives technician and now makes and designs explosives for commercial use and trains law enforcement in detecting and disabling bombs. bombs can be made from items purchased in hardware or farm stores, and in the right hands -- that sounds like a rifle shot -- could also bring down a plane. that was a half pound of potassium chlorate with icing
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sugar, like you use to bake a cake. that's amonium nitrate and powder. basically fertilizer and aluminum. >> 90% of the stuff you don't need a license to buy. i can go in the half a half an hour away and come home with 90% of this. >> reporter: almost all of this? >> almost all of this. hands the bomb itself, easy - enough to make. setting them off, another matter. >> all i'm going to do is i'm going to place it right inside the cap well. >> reporter: a blasting cap like this one, a smaller explosion used to set off a larger one necessary. the blasting cap itself needs a tiny electrical charge. we used a wire to detonator for these demonstrations, only 1.5 volts of electricity needed to set off such large blasts. but anything from a kitchen clock timer to a wristwatch to a phone could be used to send a signal, setting off a tiny charge that could lead to so much destruction.
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miguel marquez, cnn, gettysburg, pennsylvania. >> pretty disturbing there. let's dig into this further with anthony may, a former explosives expert for the atf. anthony, first question, what will investigators be look for to determine if this was a bomb? >> good morning, pam. what they'll be looking for is a telltale signs of an explosion. that's yet to be determined. this is all speculation but it's important to speculate because if this was a terrorist event, a bombing, then -- and it was successful, then there are others waiting. going through the wreckage, looking at all the components, the damage it's caused those are signs that will yield to what type of device may have been used. >> officials i've been speaking with about this say it's all about the forensic evidence. they have strong suspicions but until they get the wreckage and the results, then they're not ready to reach conclusions. but what if there is no bomb residue or specific blast pattern in the wreckage. does that rule out a bomb being
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on the plane? >> not necessarily. let's take a look at this scenario in its entirety. this device or function or event, whatever you wish to call it, occurred 24 minutes into this flight. now, the -- inspire magazine, a propaganda magazine produced by al qaeda, their 13th issue which came out in 2014 targeted aircraft. and it recommended that commercial aircraft be taken down while in flight, at altitude. this event occurred 24 minutes into flight. if this was a conventional timer, let's say a -- they had 59 minutes to work with, had there been a ground delay, this whole event would have been completely different. there may have been survivors or no casualties whatsoever if this event had occurred on the ground. of course, with technology as it is, cell phones have been used. the printer cartridges used.
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the cell phone timer boards to potentially initiate those devices. i worked an investigation back in the late '90s where a serial bomber out in fremont, california, used a timex watch that had a year capability. he basically planted his bomb a year out and had it set to go on anniversary. >> what about barometric pressure because we know the plane was at 30,000 feet. >> that's another possibility and probably a strong possibility. it reached 31,000 feet. if i were to build a device, i would want some certainty into it. and outside of command control of the device, a barometric pressure switch would be more likely used versus a timer because there's so many variables. a timer, it's problematic.
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>> there's still two questions. one, the certainty if it was a bomb and, two, who could have been behind this. was it isis? was it aqap? something right out of t theplacebook. if explosive residue was found, could that help narrow the field into the likely culprit here? >> well, it might lend an investigative lead, which is what this whole thing is about. is to develop those investigative leads early. let's face it, an investigation like this, it's going to take months before a definitive answer is determined. unfortunately, we don't have the luxury to wait that amount of time. like i said, if this was a terrorist attack, then there are probably other devices out there waiting to do the same thing. but identifying the type of explosives, it could lead you to that. for example, in 2005 i was assigned to the combined
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explosive exploitation cell in baghdad, iraq. our task there was to determine what type of devices was being used by insurgents against coalition forces. what we found most in those cases were military explosives that they can balanceized from saddam hussein's stockpile or even his rocket fuel. >> i would think the more makeshift the bomb, perhaps the easier it is to determine the materials and there would be more residue. thank you so much. anthony may, i really appreciate it. >> thank you. a 9-year-old child gunned down in an alley. new details about his death as his family lays him to rest. plus, caught on tape. a dramatic police chase as a suspect in a stolen vehicle slams her car into a police officer's cruiser. more of this video just ahead. ♪
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an eruption of violence in chicago has claimed the lives of two children. 14-year-old jaqante miles had rekrecently gone back to his ho after his family had moved to escape the violence. tie shawn lee was lured into the alleyway and shot and killed in cold blood. at this hour, mourners are gathered to pay respects to the little boy taken before his time. ryan young is right outside of the church where the funeral services are being held. ryan? >> pamela, you are talking about the e details to this, and you
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know it hits people right in their hearts. the funeral service is supposed to start at 11:00, but when you look at the program and understand how young this young man was and look at the fact that sponge bob is on the front and going inside, and all of the pictures of the young man's life, he should be here, and the 9-year-old lured into the alley, and shot and killed. they believe it is gang-related that somebody tried to get inside of the alley, and do ton thinkable to kill him and of course, an hour ago we saw the casket arrive here and the mayor of chicago has arrived in the last half hour, and the family here, but when you say this out loud ta he fact that a 9-year-o was targeted, so many people in the community are shocked by it. look there is violence here, and 2,000 shootings have happened here and close to 400 murders, and people in the city, i hate to say it are used to the violence, but one thing they can't understand is the requested y that a 9-year-old a a 9-year-old would be targeted in an alley. >> you can't get numb to that.
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and the murder of this 9-year-old of tyshawn and ja qonte walking home, and are people saying anything about the possibility of a tie to the two murders? >> well, they have not said that yet, but they have talked about $50,000-plus reward in this case. we know that people are starting to calling in tips, and that is something where they had person of interest come in to talk to the police. they say they are closer to maybe making an arrest in the case, but the idea that there is somebody out there in the community a harboring information that gang members killed a 9-year-old, and in this commu community, even though there is a gang members and gang war going on there was a code, but that code seem ts to have disappeared and now obviously children are targeted. we know that to a aspiring model was killed recently, and the 14-year-old boy was shot after his family moved back to chicago a few days ago and the idea that the funeral is going to start with people collapsing outside
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of the steps, and then the aingr from the community. in fact, anger towards the activists is where are they right now? and where are the people upset about the violence? who going to be marching in the streets for the young people who are killed? of course, we have talked to people in the community of ideas of how it is tearing apart their neighborhoods. >> this caught everybody off guard. it is a a surprise, man. coming home from school in broad daylight and you assassinate a child and you mean to tell me that no one saw that. nobody saw that? somebody had to see that. >> and pamela, that is the big conversation, and you know, we teal with the police all of the time, yound know that they need the tips from the community to be able to close this case that hopefully somebody in the community will stop the code of silence and start to give those tips and lead them to someone they can pull in. of course, with this being gang violence, what police are saying, they want to make sure they can stop it before it
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spills out into the streets again, but it is too late for a 9-year-old. >> and so often the witnesses sometimes they don't speak, because they are worried about retaliation, but they have to find the suspect, ryan. have we learned anything more what that has been like? are they any closer to finding, you know, making arrests? >> and you know, behind the scenes, we have even seen and right now i can't show you all of the officers here, but every block around the church there are police officers, and they are still passing out fliers and let me show you one here they are passing out around the community. the reward at the bottom is not the current reward, but the fliers they are passing out in the community, and people are tryin trying, and they are make an effort here, but as the superintendent has said over and over, it is going to take a community effort unlike anybody has seen before, because the idea is that violence happens here all of of the time, and we have had weekends with the numbers of shootings in 60s and 40 people shot, and so you want to make sure that people are not
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getting numb to this and turning in the tips and giving them information to stop something. >> ryan young, thank you so much. and coming up, dramatic video of a high speed car chase and the shocking moment that the suspect rams her car into the police officer's cruiser. ♪ just look at those two. happy. in love. and saving so much money on their car insurance by switching to geico...
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i want you to see the dramatic footage of this police crash in oklahoma. an officer was receiving information that a car had been stolen and then all of the sudden the driver comes right to him. >> stop! stop! [ sirens ] >> cnn's michaela pereira has more. >> reporter: caught on tape,
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dramatic video of a high-speed chase near an elementary school in tulsa, oklahoma. body cam footage capturing the moments before a woman who stole a vehicle ran her car into a patrol officer monday afternoon. it shows the officer laying down tire spikes, but the suv is not showing any signs of slowing down, but accelerating near the officer at nearly 40 miles per hour. >> stop, stop! >> this officer had less than three seconds to make a decision what to do. >> reporter: and the officer sh shows stacy buncey popping out there the sunroof and e yelling obscenities at the police. >> do not move your hands. >> reporter: after several demands, she was tasered.
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meanwhile, the officer walked a away from the incident with minor cuts and bruises. >> it was pretty wild. it is amazing that he didn't get injured, severely. >> unbelievable. well, that suspect is now charged with assault and battery with a deadly weapon an dui and several charges. thank you so much for joining us at this hour. "legal view with ashleigh banfield" starts right now. banfield" starts right now. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield and welcome the "legal view." we are getting word now on what started the police chase that led to the shooting death of a 6-year-old boy in louisiana. little jeremy mardis had autism, and jeremy could not speak, and he was defenseless as he sat in the front seat of his father's truck and shot by police five

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