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show @theleadcnn. that's it for the lead. i'm jake tapper. i turn you over to now, not wolf blitzer, but brianna keilar, who is filling in for wolf blitzer. she is right next door in "the situation room." thanks for wuching. >> happening now, breaking news. extreme vetting. donald trump talks terror in a closely watched scripted speech. and calls for extreme vetting of foreigners who want to come to the u.s. while saying hillary clinton lacks the mental and physical stamina. did trump make a false claim about the san bernardino terror attack? vice president issuees a searing take. biden calling trump totally unqualified and his campaign dangero dangerous. can he help clinton win over white voters? cnn learned fbi will give con tres new details of e-mails.
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and they will be handed over to a conservative watch dog group. is clinton's e-mail kman about to heat up again? >> and record-high water sweeps across parts of louisiana, threatening people and pets. the i'm brianna keilar, you're in "the situation room." >> this is cnn breaking news. the breaking news this hour, donald trump is saying that democratic rival hillary clinton lacks what he calls the mental and physical stamina to take on isis. trump gave a speech on his plan for fighting radical islam terror a short time ago and it
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included a call for what he described as quote extreme vetting of foreigners entering the u.s. clinton and vice president joe biden gave a rebuttal where both have family roots. saying trump is not qualified have the u.s. codes. and one of trump's strongest demographics, members of congress are expected to get new details of hillary clinton's fbi interview at any time now and cnn has learned that the agency is handing over notes from her meeting with investigators looking into her use of a private e-mail server while she was secretary of state. at the same time the state department has agreed to give a conservative watch dog group clinton's official e-mails recover id by the fbi. we are covering all of that and more this hour with guest including republican congressman mike pompeiio. our correspondent and expert
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analysts are also standing by for us. we have cnn's jessica snyder live for us at trump tower in new york. jessica, you heard this. trump gave a closely-watched speech on terror and he stuck to the script for at least most of it. >> yeah, brianna, donald trump went on the take. and in it he focused on and also stamp out isis. and he slammed the obama administration for what he says president obama allowed ice toys take shape. >> and just as we have defeat defeated -- >> staying on teleprompter and message outlining three-pronged plan to destroy isis. >> as i become president, the world of nation built will be brought to a very swift and decisive end. >> trump promising to work with
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any country to fight terrorism and backing down from his previous man to back away from nato. >> sense my comments have changed their policy, and now have a new division focused on terror threats. very good. very very good. it is also common ground with russia in the fight against isis. wouldn't that be a good thing? >> the second prong taking immigration screening to the extreme. >> in the cold war, we had an ideological screening test. the time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today. i call it extreme vetting. any hostile attitudes towards our country or its principles who who believe sharia law
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should ssuplant american law. those who have bigotry and hatred will not be admited. >> third, tramp plans to fight isis ideal logically. >> anyone who cannot condemn the hatred, oppression and violence of radical islam lacks the claire it to serve as our president. >> trump usedity speech to attack the policies of the obama administration and fitness of his opponent hillary clinton. >> she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on isis and all of the many as v adversaries we face. >> this is on the week of largely self-inflicted damage. trump's comments including president obama and hillary clinton being the founders of isis, that second amendment support offers could do something if clinton wins and that he could only lose the election if someone cheated, all leading the conservative wall
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street journal editorial award to call for trump to shape up or ship out. writing, if they can't get mr. trum top change his act by labor day the gop will have no choice but to write off the nominee as hopeless. as for mr. trump, he needs to stop blaming everyone else and decide if he wants to behave like someone who want to be president or turn the nomination over to mike pence. >> and donald trump has repeatedly claimed he is not being treated fairly by the media. in fact he made that claim a ser centerpiece of his campaign the last few days. now time for him to get back on message. >> thank you for that report. now we will talk about the clinton campaign. pamela brown has the latest on this. pamela, hillary clinton is campaigning with joe biden, vice president. he had some pretty biting words about donald trump. >> yeah, he certainly did, brianna. this is his first appearance on the campaign trail and he slammed donald trump saying his
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shame has no limits and that he would be harmful to america's national security because he cannot be trusted. >> this man is totally thoroughly unqualified to be president of the united states of america. >> vice president joe biden hitting the trail with hillary clinton for the first time today and hitting her opponent, donald trump. >> there's a guy that follows me right back here, has the nuclear codes. so god forbid anything happened to the president and i had to make a decision, the codes are are with the -- he is not qualified. to know the code. >> biden hammering trump's praise for saddam hussein. >> a man who repeatedly backed terror attacks against israel because he was suppsosedly the reason he admires him, he was a killer of terrorists. that's why he likes saddam. would he have loved stalin. >> the vice president arguing
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even president obama and hillary clinton as founder of isis put american lives in danger. >> ladies and gentlemen, does he have any idea the adverse consequences these outlandish comments have on our allies, friend and physical safety of our troops? trump is already making our country less safe. >> it's no coincidence the vice president and hillary clinton joined forces in scranton, pennsylvania today. >> good to be home. >> biden's hometown and birthplace of clinton's father. >> we've both had a lot of memories of scranton and -- >> lake by noah! >> that right. swinging democrat for president since 1988 with obama winning here in 2008 and 2012. but that hasn't stopped trump from promising would he win the state unless the democrats cheated. >> only by we can lose, in my opinion, is if cheating goes on.
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>> hold leading in pennsylvania polls, trump needs working class white voters on his side in big numbers if he is going to beat clinton a group she has been struggling with throughout this campaign and in an effort to win them over she hammered trump today on his tax plan. >> i know some of you may have friends up here in northeastern pennsylvania who are thinking about voting for trump. [ crowd booing ] >> i know. i know. friend should not let friends vote for trump. this as the e-mail investigation in the private e-mail server continues to cast a shadow over her campaign. cnn learned the fbi is expected to release notes from her interview with the bureau to congress very soon. a move that will no doubt bring the controversy surrounding her e-mail use center stage once again. >> and it's unusual for the fbi to release notes in the case of the voluntary interview and no charges filed such as this and
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certainly a sensitivity about politically charged material during an election year but james comey said he want to be as transparent as possible about the case and handing over the needs is one way of achieving that. brieian? >> pam brown, thank you so much for that. we want more now on all of this with republican congressman mike pompeiio of can gres. he is a member of the intelligence committee and supporter of donald trump. congressman, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us. and i do want to ask you -- >> great to be with you. >> great to have you. we heard donald trump, you heard him, he was talking about this ideological screening for immigrant that he called extreme vetting. is this something that -- i guess explain this to us and tell us how this is fitting with american values. >> well, i thought mr. trump let out a case today that along with republican congress that will push back against the threat of radical islamic terrorism. we have watched eight years where isis has grown and al
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qaeda is not on the run and our borders have allowed folks to come into the country that we don't have a good handle on whether or not they are going to cause trouble when they get here. they will become terrorists. so he laid out a case for a strong foreign policy that will for the first time in eight years reverse the terror growth that has taken place all around the world. and with respect to the vetting process, he describes we've had for a long time, a law that requires folks to uphold the constitution. it is a cool and simple principle p will to ask for that and demand it is enforced is a straight forward proposition and it makes sense given the threat of islamic radical terrorism we find all around the world today. >> this is different. this is a test as someone imgrates into the country. you agree with this test? >> i don't think what he said today is any different than what we have done throughout history in the united states of america. both parties have understood --
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>> can i stop you real quick -- >> let me answer kwet the question -- >> but his whole point is that he is doing something different. he is doing something more. isn't that whole point, that he is trying to do something more? >> right. what a republican congress does with a president that is not hillary clinton is enforce the existing laws. we will make sure we know who is coming in and out of our country consistent with the requirements that are already in place today. this president has chosen not to do that. . and he has put our country at risk as a result of that. >> he said today those who do not believe in our constitution or support bigotry and hatred will not be admitted for immigration into the country. how does he -- how does he do that -- he is proposing something new here. how does dough that? is that something that you sign on to? sfrs. >> i think what he is proposing is something old. something our country has done as a matter of tradition and
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when my family came to our country they made a commitment. they were going to come here and understand that this a unique exceptional nation and ensure that folks that come here have that same view and come here to work and be part of the american dream. i think mr. trump has been very clear along with the republican congress i think that's what we will do. >> i do want to ask you about something he said about the iraq war. he repeated this claim where he said he was opposed to the iraq war. but when we go back and look at this, he didn't come out as against the iraq war until august of 2004. prior to na in 2003, he was for the iraq war and it was august 2004. right before the election where george w. bush was re-elected but where the iraq war was extremely unpopular. how can he argue he is stronger on foreign policy by basing this argument on this false claim? >> i don't think there is any
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question about what trump suggested today. secretary clinton did a russian reset and they took a fifth of the ukraine. the obama administration allowed central command to fake intelligence about radical islamic terrorism. those are the things i heard trump talk about and things that republican congress will fix. we are going to keep america safe. this administration refused to acknowledge this threat from isis, al qaeda and is pretending we are successful when we're not. a republican administration and republican congress will fix that. >> you are reluctant and seem to have become a trump support offers. you endorsed him in may. i'm sensing, as i ask the questions, and i'm not quite getting a straight answer as we fact check things that donald trump said and you seem to have a discomfort about some of the things sid. when i say, this is not true, can you speak to that. >> brianna you want to debate
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these things from history. what we will do is fix eight years of the -- >> he is presenting them of -- he is presenting them as fact. >> brianna, if you will let me finish. >> please. >> i'm an reluctant supporter. i sat on the benghazi committee. i watched hillary clinton lie to the american people about the deaths of four members and how an aircraft did not rescue those in harm's way. i want to ensure hillary clinton never sets foot inside the white house. it would be a disaster for national security and i hope people in november will agree with me. she allowed national security information to be on her private server. this is unacceptable behavior from someone who is seeking to be the commander-in-chief. this is not a close call for me. >> wall street journal published a very scathing opinion piece. sorry, yes. and it reads in part if they can't get mr. trump to change his act by labor day, referring
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to the republican party, the fw op will have no choice to focus on salvaging the senate house and other ballot down races. mr. trump needs to stop blaming everyone else and decide if he wants it behave like someone who wants to be president or turn the nomination over to mike pence. what do you say to this? we hear donald trump often rail against the quote unquote liberal media ease puts it. this is a conservative editorial board. . rupert murdoch-owned paper. does trump need to listen to this warning? >> i would often use different language than mr. trump used. but when i look at policies, this is not a difficult position. we have watched eight years of foreign policy, allowing chinese to expand in the south china sea. watched iran now demand $400 million in cash to release our hostages.
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this is a clear case of one person being a far better commander-in-chief and who will help make america safe. i read the wall street journal piece. i'm convinced that donald trump will be our nominee and in november the choice is very clear between these two candidates. if national security matters to voters, this is an ooes call. >> congressman, i have many more questions ahead for you. i want a quick break. we'll be right back with republican congressman mike pompeiio after a break. experience ♪ore confidence regardless of the conditions. get great offers at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. get up to $5,000 customer cash on select 2016 models. ends september 5th. see your lexus dealer. enepeople want power.hallenge. and power plants account for more than a third of energy-related carbon emissions.
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news. donald trump speaking in ohio a short time ago and detailed his plan it fight radical islamic terrorism. trump also slammed hillary clinton as lacking mental and physical stamina to take on isis. we are back now with republican congressman mike pompeiio of kansas who is a supporter of donald trump's. i want to play something for you what donald trump said on friday. here is what he said. >> the only way they can beat it, in my opinion, and i mean this 100%, if in certain sections of the state they cheat. okay? so i hope you people can sort of not just vote on the 8th. go around and look and watch other polling places and make sure that it's a hundred percent fine. because without voter identification, which is shocking, shocking, that you don't have it. many states it gets approve end some states they don't get approved.
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>> so this is in pennsylvania where he said this. of course a battle ground state where hillary clinton is doing a little better than he is right now. and when you look on-line he is also soliciting on his campaign website trump election observers he called them. you can volunteer to be one. do you agree with donald trump that there could very well be widespread voter fraud in november? >> is we always have to watch that. democrats and republicans alike. we will have observers in our party in polling offices across kansas to make sure things are run properly. i think voter id is a reasonable proposition and he spoke to that as well. i think is important that american elections are viewed as free, fair, thorough, transparent. i think he was speaking to that and also speaking to the notion i agree with which it is hard for me to imagine the good people of pennsylvania voting
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for secretary clinton given the damage she has done to the economy, destruction of the coal industry in pennsylvania. i think too it is very likely that mr. trump and our senator in that state ought to be able to win that election as well. i think that's what he was speaking to. >> you're doing the same thing, this voter observer program? >> brianna, i think every candidate from both political parties, state parties sometimes do it, sometimes candidates run them. they put folks in there observing. it is quite natural. proper. the other party will be there too. this is not unusual. you say it as if you're surprised a bit. this is ordinary. >> because he is alleging voter fraud and when he is talking about people showing up, i think some people are making it cognitive leap as voter -- >> i hope neither party ever intimidates either side from going to a voting poll and
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executing their right to vote. that is far different from having someone in a polling place, making sure polling is fair. we observe elections around the world. and others come here to watch ours. this is not something new or unusual. somehow the media grabbed not to this and talk like this is different or unusual. this is ordinary course. >> because he is saying he believes that there could very well be voter fraud in pennsylvania. is there evidence of that? >> i'm from kansas. i'm not familiar with the voter fraud history in pennsylvania. but i think every american want their vote counted. each way that vote is one man one vote an deepest traditions of america. i think that's what mr. trump was speaking to and i can't imagine anyone watching your show today would disagree with that. >> are youware of voter fraud?
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kansas? >> i worry about voter fraud everywhere across america. we've got to make sure -- >> do you have evidence? you have a reason to expect that will happen? >> we have certainly had problems in parts of kansas before. some of them have been small and some presented greater risk but no risk is tolerable when you go into an election. every individual vote count. we had an election a week ago tuesday where we had races decided by 10 or 12 or 50 votes. it is important the votes are counted properly and raaccurate and timely as well. so it is consistent with what voters intended. >> congressman mike pompeo from kansas. thank you for taking time with us. >> thank you for the time. coming up, closer time of the politician of donald trump's anti-isis plan. will it help him get past the stumbles of the past few weeks and raise new doubts about hillary clinton?
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you're following breaking news. donald trump revealing specifics about plans to fight isis and terrorism and this includes new ideology tests for immigrant. when a calls extreme vetting. just before that speech, vice president joe biden campaigning pour hillary clinton accusing donald trump of putting the lives of u.s. troops in danger by claiming president obama founded isis. here to discuss the political fall out we have cnn senior political reporter knee ya ma lea malik
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nia-malika henderson. david, i want your reaction to this speech. today donald trump calling for extreme vetting. a lot of emphasis we put on that. extreme vetting of foreigners who want to come into the u.s. he said would he only allow entry to quote those who support our can values. what do you make of all this? >> well, it is extremely hard to say what extreme vetting is because there were few details about it in the speech. that is true about the whole speech. it was heavy on attacks about president obama and hillary clinton with tough language but not many details about what he would actually do. you get the sense that the real purpose of this speech was not to keep terrorists from harming americans but to keep donald trump have harming himself politically as he has been doing the last two weeks. i think most republicans ever relieved he got through it,
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stuck to the script. however thin the script was. >> we also heard donald trump go after hillary clinton. this stuck out po people when he said she lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on isis. what is he getting at there? >> i think it is clear. for instance saying she's not all there. if you look in the conservative blog sphere there are conspiracy theorys about hillary clinton's health. and they are trickling down. last week a woman who was a trump supporter talked about hillary clinton's health saying she was unfit medically -- >> so rewind, 2012 she suffers concussion, suffers a blood clot in her skull. she has the glasses on adjusting for her eyesight problems with the concussion. so they are harkening back to that? >> they are harkening back to that. her doctor released a statement in july 2015 giving her a clean bill of health but again this is
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part of donald trump he seems to traffic in conspiracy theory. that's what he is getting at saying she is medically unfit to be a president and again there's no proof of that. that's just him saying that. >> is that a winning argument? do republicans think that is a winning argument or an argument donald trump should be making? >> i don't think they think it is the winning argument. they believe the winning argument to make against an unpopular candidate, which hillary clinton is, is the argument on policy, is the argument republicans believe that she would be a third term of president obama. and to just tick off the issues upon which they disagree with her. i think attacking her on her stamina, attacking her on hour health is, as nia point out, the -- >> like a tangent? >> the same tangent, brianna, is
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this sort of question about saying hillary clinton could only win if she is cheating, for example, in the state of pennsylvania. that's another tangent. republicans like the wall street journal editorial page want to go after her on policy. they don't want to go after her on all this other stuff. they want trump to do more of what he did today. even if they disagree with him on policy areas, a lot of them find stuff to agree with on some speech and want to continue to go after her on that. >> i want to ask you david about the wall street journal. obviously a conservative editorial board. and they called yesterday on the republican party telling them look, give up on donald trump if he doesn't quote change his act by labor day. and the journal said that trump needs to quote stop blaming everyone else and decide if he wants it behave like someone who want to be president or turn the nomination over to mike pence. you have donald trump who likes to go after the media.
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not like the wall street journal hasn't taken a few shots at him for sure. but this is a conservative board. >> no doubt about it. and look, i think there is a lot of concern among republicans i know and republicanes who you all speak to about what has happened to donald trump. he has not been able to make transition from the primary campaign to general election campaign. he thinks that he is still talking to that same cohort of voters who nominated him. that is not large enough to make him president of the united states. he gets in his own way. keeping him and others from getting on to stories that might be helpful in the race against hillary clinton. right now they see this as downward spiral. if he doesn't show some marked improvement, they know they are headed for a potential calamity in the fall. >> and the republicans i talk to
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are already finding ways to distance themselves from donald trump without distancing themselves from the republican party. they are partsing how they can run as republicans without running as donald trump republicans. the wall street journal editorial page says give him until labor day. i think a lot of candidates are saying, you know -- >> they are not -- >> in the meantime he isn't able to consolidate republican party support in the way that hillary clinton has consolidated on democratic support. that's one of the reasons he is trailing in these polls because voters not only people like susan collins and those 50 national security law folks who say they wouldn't support donald trump, actual voters too are having real second thoughts. republican voters about the -- >> and a lot of those voters are suburban republicans, college-educated republicans,
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women. a you look at is you burn an district, and there are a buchblg bunch of polls released that have trump with huge deficits that are hard for their candidate to make up. this is the reason republicans are so anxious about donald trump right now.make up. this is the reason republicans are so anxious about donald trump right now. >> david, thank you so much. nia, gloria, thank you. our national counterterrorism experts will weigh in on donald trump's isis proposals. could they work? you both have a perfect driving record. until one of you clips a food truck. then your rates go through the roof. perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. and if you do have an accident, our claims centers are available to assist you twenty-four seven.
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you are following breaking news out in. donald trump getting more specific about how he would fight isis. he called for an international conference on combatting terrorism. he said the u.s. would not support regime change or nation building. and he called for in his words extreme vetting of immigrants. with us now are cnn national security analyst peter bergen. former cia official and counterterrorism analyst phillip mudd and retired general mark hurtling. i want it ask you about this first, phil. so often we talk about the politics of this. we will talk about the policy, which is a welcome discussion i think. when donald trump is talking about his plan and you listen to it today, how is his plan different than what the obama administration is already doing? >> i think there is one substantial difference. whether you like secretary clinton or mr. trump, one of the thing by should say he is put out thing very clear today. one on syria.
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that is talking about working with russia. what are the russians going to say? they have a client in the middle. that client is assad. i think they would say let's let our client say in power so we can concentrate power and firepower on isis. alternative would be, let's try to oust assad and allow instability to continue which isis benefits from. neither are a great solution but i think trump said i'm with putin which is with assad. >> and that makes it privately to russia about dealing with syria and does that give -- i guess does that sort of hugh with perhaps what donald trump is suggesting? and how would this work? what would this look like? >> i agree complete wli phil. but russia's interest is the maintenance of assad.
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they haven't shown much interest in going after isis. so i that i policy proposal that doesn't have a lot of meat to it. we also have this immigration test. are we talking about french citizens? france has a been terrorism problem. and there was no meat for that too. and then he talks about military tribunals in the future. which i think has proven to not be very successful. u.n. courts have a hundred percent conviction rate and these guys away for life in prison. when it came to the substance, there wasn't much there. >> you wanted to hear if he is talking about a vetting process, who is he identifying? what countries is he saying okay look, this is where we are concerned about your country and about influence of islam radicalism there. >> right. are we talking about doing this for -- he didn't say.
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wa i was waiting for something more specific for one of his ideales. >> he talked about this being something that happened during the cold war. have you heard a suggestion like this before? >> never. and i didn't understand it when he said it in his speech either. it is interesting, i don't know what an ideological screening is. does that mean everyone agrees with his thoughts? and i think the diversity of our country is what is so critical to making us great. there are different ideas that combine to form the best ideas. when you talk about ideological screening it seems to me he is talking about everyone must believe exactly the way i believe and that is counter to who we are as a nation. old union, i have many becomes one. and it just didn't make a lot of sense to me. >> general, thank you so much. we really appreciate you being with us to talk about this, peter, phil, thank you so much.
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we're following breaking news. we have some new video of the flooding in parts of louisiana that are just drenched by almost two feet of rain. these floods are being blamed for at least five deaths so far, but over the weekend, the coast guard and other first responders rescued at least 20,000 people. this included a woman and her dog from a car that had just sunk into the flood waters.
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cnn meteorologist jennifer gray is in baton rouge covering this story. do you think, jennifer, that the flood waters could go down tonight? >> yeah, the flood waters are slowly starting to recede, but i'm talking slowly. you can look behind me and you can see some water marks on places, on people's houses, on the fences. it's only gone down about three to six inches during the afternoon. if you can imagine, some of these areas behind these homes, the water is ten to 12 feet deep. so it's going to take quite a while. a lot of the rivers have crested in this area, but the bad news is it could stay at that level for several days. so it could be the end of the week before people are able to get back in their homes, so folks are going to be forced to stay in shelters longer than they actually would like to. unfortunately. we do have a drone that is flying high above this area and it will give you a better idea of just how inundated it is with water. the water started to recede
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incredibly quickly by yesterday afternoon. residents here say it rose about two feet in less than 24 hours, so residents were just taking what they could carry to get out and save their lives, and they have no idea what they'll be returning to. it's incredibly sad. this is an area that was completely inundated with a historic flood, about six months ago, if you remember back in march, we had record flooding. and now just barely six months later, we have another record flood and some historic rescues took place over the weekend. >> you have something? >> yeah. >> get out. give me a knife, give me a knife. watch out. breaking a window.
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oh, my god. >> we're coming. we're coming. we're breaking the window. >> i need help. >> oh, my god. >> get my dog. get my dog. get my dog. i'll go down. >> here. here. >> she's gone. >> no, she better not be. >> i got you.
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>> i'm sorry. >> images like that will just make your heart stop. we saw images like that all over the city. more than 20,000 rescues. it doesn't even count just the residents and good samaritans that were helping out their neighbors. you can see from the drone water is everywhere, brianna. so it is going to take quite a while for this to recede and a lot of cleanup ahead for folks in south louisiana. >> big kudos to those rescuers. how calm they were in such a scary situation. very commendable. thank you, jennifer. really appreciate it. we do have some more breaking news that we'll be following next. donald trump warns of a grave terror threat facing the u.s. he lays out his controversial plan to fight it. this is the summer.
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happening now, breaki ining news. getting extreme. donald trump promises tougher tests for immigrants to enter the country, as he blames hillary clinton and president obama for the rise of isis. torching trump. vice president biden teams up with clinton on the campaign trail to deliver a blistering argument that the republican nominee is unfit for the presidency and a danger to america's security. shifting battlegrounds. new polls show trump losing ground in two clinton and crucial swing states. does he still have a path to get to those 270 electoral votes that are needed to win the white house? and under investigation. ukrainian officials say trump's campaign chairman is the subject
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of a probe into alleged influence pedaling. we're getting new information about paul manafort, his ties to a putin ally and millions of dollars listed in a secret ledger. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. wolf blitzer is off. i'm brianna keilar. you're in "the situation room." >> this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news tonight, donald trump is promising to subject m immigrants to new tests that he calls extreme vetting as part of his plan to fight radical islamic terrorism. trump says only people who "share our values" should be allowed in the country. in his speech on national security, trump blamed the rise of isis on decisions made by president obama and hillary clinton when she was secretary of state. and vice president joe biden says trump's dangerous communities are putting america's security at risk right now and it would only get worse
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if he's elected president. biden campaigned with hillary clinton for the first time in this campaign, appearing in the battleground state of pennsylvania. and also tonight, new developments in the clinton e-mail controversy. the state department has agreed to give a conservative watchdog group all official e-mails recovered from clinton's private servers. this as the fbi is expected to provide members of congress with notes from its interview with clinton. another investigation is unfolding. this one involving trump campaign chairman paul manafort. ukrainian authorities say they're trying to determine if manafort received millions in illegal payments from the country's former pro-russian ruling party. manafort calls the allegation unfounded. senior trump campaign adviser jack kingston is standing by, along with our correspondents and analysts, who have full coverage of the day's top stories. first i want to get to sara murray, she is in ohio with more on trump's speech on terrorism.
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sara? >> reporter: brianna, today donald trump is not reiterating his claim that president obama and hillary clinton were the co-founders of isis, but he was here in ohio laying out his philosophy f philosophy for how to combat the terror group, he did not hold back highlighting what he views as hillary clinton's foreign policy failures. donald trump is battling to take control of his own campaign message, by laying out his vision to defeat isis. >> we cannot let this evil continue. >> reporter: trump looking to rebound from a rocky stretch and bringing up doubts about hillary clinton's foreign policy chops. >> with one episode of bad judgment after another, hillary clinton's policies launched isis on to the world stage. things turned out really to be not so hot for our world and our
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country. >> reporter: even questioning whether she's physically fit to be commander in chief. >> she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on isis and all of the many adversaries we face. >> reporter: the billionaire businessman calling on the u.s. to abandon its attempts at nation building, and saying it's time to focus on fighting isis on all fronts. the gop nominee framing it as an ideological war, hearkening back to the days of george w. bush as he called on the u.s. to team up with any ally willing to help battle isis. >> we cannot always choose our friends, but we can never fail to recognize our enemies. >> trump also fleshing out his controversial plan to block immigrants from countries that he claims breed terrorism. proposing a test to determine whether immigrants hold extremist views that don't mesh with american ideals. >> i call it extreme, extreme vetting. our country has enough problems.
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we don't need more. and these are problems like we've never had before. in addition to screening out all members of the sympathizers of terrorist groups, we must also screen out any who have hostile attitudes toward our country our its principles, or who believe that shari'a law should supplant american law. >> reporter: trump's policy focused address, the latest to derail the candidate who refuses this message. calling on him to stop blaming everyone else. turn his campaign around by labor day. and prove he can behave like someone who wants to be president. or turn the nomination over to mike pence. that call for extreme vetting is already catching some criticism from some outside groups. the council on american islamic relations today and said an
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ideological test violates american values. they said donald trump himself would not be allowed in this country if we tested for "basic american values of tolerance." brianna? >> sara murray for us in youngstown, ohio. thank you. we want to talk now about the democrats. and vice president joe biden. he had a new warning today that donald trump cannot be trusted with nuclear codes or with anything involving america's security. cnn senior washington correspondent joe johns is live for us in pennsylvania. he has more on biden's campaign appearance with hillary clinton. he really went after donald trump today, joe. >> reporter: that's for sure. vice president joe biden back here in his hometown of scranton, pennsylvania. of course, this is his first campaign appearance with hillary clinton on the trail. in what can only be called a blistering attack on donald trump, calling him, among other things, totally unqualified to
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be president. joe biden on the trail for the first time with democratic presidential nominee hillary clinton. channelling his blue collar roots in his hometown of scranton, pennsylvania. >> hillary understands the hopes and aspirations of the people in scranton and every scranton in the united states of america. >> reporter: hammering away at donald trump. >> this guy doesn't care about the middle class. and i don't even blame him in a sense because he doesn't understand it. he doesn't have a clue. he really -- i mean, he really doesn't. >> saying trump is the most unprepared president ever. >> i've worked with eight presidents of the united states. aye served with hundreds of senators, dozens of secretaries of state and secretaries of defense of both parties and i can say without hesitation, my word as a biden, no major party nominee in the history of of the
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united states of america -- now, don't cheer. just listen. has known less or been less prepared to deal with our national security than donald trump. >> reporter: and repeating a line of attack clinton's campaign had focused on for weeks, trump cannot be trusted with the nuclear codes. >> he is not qualified to know the codes. he can't be trusted. >> in a raw moment, the vice president even hitting trump for comments the republican made about dictators, like former iraq leader saddam hussein, suggesting the republican would even admire the former russian ruler responsible for murdering millions. >> he would have loved stalin. >> reporter: biden joined clinton in an appeal to white working class voters of pennsylvania, a demographic clinton has been struggling with. >> i always remember i am the granddaughter of a factory worker and the daughter of a small business owner, and i am
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so proud of it. >> reporter: trump is struggling in the latest polls in pennsylvania, trailing by nine points. he continues to tell voters he's worried the election could be rigged against him. >> the only way we can lose, in my opinion, i really mean this, is if cheating goes on. >> reporter: not a mention of the fbi notes that could be turned over to congressional investigators today. the clinton campaign preferring to stay on offense and going with things that work. they made it clear earlier today that they wanted to stay on foreign policy, putting out a web ad. once again, questioning whether donald trump should be entrusted with the nuclear codes. brianna? >> really trying to shift the focus away from her e-mail issues. joe johns in scranton. thank you so much. joining me now is a senior adviser to the trump campaign. he's also a former u.s. congressman from georgia. we have jack kingston with us. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you.
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>> he's talking about extreme vetting. ideological vetting. make sure that people who are coming into the country share our values, as he put it in a quote. how does that work? >> well, what he was talking about is countries that we know have inadequate vetting, that we want to have more scrutiny. now, the department of homeland security, which he brought into the loop, would be in charge of this. but it's just saying that if we know that you are an exporter of terrorism, then we want to be very careful about who comes into the country. and keep in mind, he pointed out that hillary's plan calls for 640,000 new refugees. he paralleled that to what happened in germany. i don't think anybody would say that the angela merkel experiment in germany has been a good one. and so what he's talking about is let's just be careful who comes to our country. nothing radical about it. but what he does know is what's going on right now under obama and hillary clinton has not been working. >> but they're already vetting
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right now. >> a lot of this we're hearing from the clinton campaign. >> no, we looked into it. the dhs is already vetting. >> no, there's a lot that's already going on now. but i think a new sheriff in town, new emphasis, one of the things he said is everybody in my administration will know keeping america safe is a top priority to win the war on terrorism. so i think while they may be doing it now, he wants to have more energy, more emphasis on it. >> i guess we want to know what it is beyond emphasis. we have frequently -- you know, the trump campaign -- we're focused too much on politics, not on policy. i mean, we're trying to focus on that. i guess more than just saying i'm going to emphasize that, there has to be something else that he's going to do other than just say hey, do better, dhs. so what is that? >> well, i think number one, you have to remember, take it to the beginning. donald trump was against the war in iraq. hillary clinton was for it. >> i'm not just -- congressman,
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i have to stop you there. he said that today, except we fact checked him. he was for it in 2003, and he wasn't against it until august 2004, which as you know, a few months before the election. so many people were against it. >> as a private citizen, he would not have the information that hillary clinton had. and hillary clinton had all kinds of information. as a u.s. senator. >> you just said he was against it, and he wasn't against it. >> he had said consistently publicly he was against it. >> he had not -- congressman, he had not. in august of 2004, it was the first time he said that. >> on this show -- >> he said it in 2003. in 2003, he said publicly on radio, i'm for it. >> well, let me just say, i don't believe it was a statement of position. on this show, they have shown repeatedly interviews of 2007 where he said he was against the war in iraq. but, let's, you know, fast forward. if you think where we are now,
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the fall of syria, the destabilization in libya, iraq, afghanistan, unfinished business, isis now that's created under hillary clinton's watch has already killed 25,000 people since 2013. and they're in 18 countries. if we are saying that's the status quo and hillary clinton keeps coming out with plan after plan and barack obama has all kinds of meetings on this, nothing has happened. brianna, what it's like is that ice skating rink in new york city. new york was doing their best to renovate the ice skating rink, but they needed new leadership. and they got donald trump in there, he got it done. i'm not saying an ice skating rink is similar to foreign policy. but leadership is. and what i saw today is donald trump showing international leadership, showing ownership, and showing commitment. and that's a lot different than barack obama going around the globe apologizing for the united states of america. >> but you're saying he was consistent in saying he was against iraq, which is not true.
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and you're citing 2007. i mean, with all due respect, and i say this -- i don't mean to be facetious, but who wasn't against it? that was a time where really, a lot of public opinion had turned on iraq. you even had republicans who were coming out against it. >> well, let's say this. he was a private citizen. >> but he's not being accurate -- and i hear what you're saying. but he is touting his position, which means that it needs to stand up to scrutiny. and it doesn't. >> you know, i'm sure there are a lot of different interviews with a guy like donald trump along the way. it still doesn't detract from the fact that he was a private citizen. hillary clinton and barack obama have owned our war against terrorism since 2008, or 2009 when they were both sworn in. and what we have now is a destabilized middle east. you look at the failures in libya. look at yemen.
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look at syria. look at iraq. look at afghanistan. this is all hillary clinton's design. and when she talks about a plan, we are already seeing the hillary clinton plan. what donald trump is talking about is reinvigorating our allies, getting people working together, cracking down on cyber security, and i think being very careful about who comes to the united states of america is a good thing. and something the american people want. >> all right, stay with me. because we have much more ahead. former congressman kingston from georgia. we'll be back after a quick break. ♪ ♪ only those who dare drive the world forward. introducing the first-ever cadillac ct6.
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ukrainian authorities about their investigation into donald trump's campaign chairman paul manafort. cnn senior investigative correspondent drew griffin has been digging on this. this involves manafort's ties to an ally of vladimir putin and also what is being called by officials there a black ledger. it's a secret cash ledger. >> that's right. the black ledger investigation. this entire story comes from ukraine's anti-corruption bureau, which is specifically investigating the excesses and corruption of the former and now hated government of ukraine. paul manafort was a campaign adviser for the party that ran that former government. and that is why his name is being wrapped up in all of this. they're getting the information from 841 pages, all handwritten documents, which seemed to be a record of party expenditures. so far, the actual documents with manafort's actual name on it have not been released. but we do have these to show you.
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this is what they look like. this is what the black ledgerer i is. reasons for expenses like phone bills, seminars, car insurance. what you don't see yet is manafort's name. but we are told by the spokesperson for this ukraine agency, a government agency now, that in fact, in the hundreds of pages, there are 22 mentions of paul manafort's name linked with corresponding payments of $12.7 million designated payments. there's no proof so far that any payments were actually made to paul manafort, and they're being quite clear on that, because they have actual places where people have signed for this cash. but next to paul manafort's name, there is no signature. >> okay, so we don't know if he was paid. there is no signature, you point that out. but would it be illegal if he were to have been paid this cash? >> manafort worked for the political party in ukraine. it's no secret.
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and that is not illegal. so unless it's proven this money is illicit money or that it involves some kind of under-the-table payments in cash, i don't think we can draw the conclusions yet. the anti-corruption bureau is not drawing any conclusions yet either. they're only saying that manafort is part of this investigation because his name is on this ledger. manafort himself is calling this entire report silly. here's his statement. it says the simplest answer is the truth. i'm a campaign professional. it is well-known that i do work in the united states and have done work on overseas campaigns as well. i have never received a single off-the-books cash payment, as falsely reported by "the new york times." nor have i ever done work for the governments of ukraine or russia. he goes on to say the suggestion that i accepted cash payments is unfounded, silly, and nonsensical. cnn has asked for the specific documents that would show cash payment s paid to manafort. we haven't received them yet.
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the spokesperson does confirm paul manafort, trump's campaign adviser, part of this investigation into potentially illegal payments in ukraine. >> all right, drew griffin, thank you so much for that report. i want to go back now to a senior adviser to the trump campaign, former georgia congressman jack kingston. you heard drew's report there. and i think the key thing i'm sure from your perspective is there's no proof that he received this cash. and paul manafort is certainly denying that. but aside from that, this was his main client. viktor yanukovych, the president who was ousted by an uprising in ukraine. and someone who was backed by russia, who was backed by vladimir putin. does that concern you that this is sort of coming to light, especially as donald trump deals with the sort of allegations that he admires in vladimir putin, this this is unseemly? >> let's say this. in a campaign, there's all kinds of things that are swirling around. it's sort of become a food fight, if you will. he has said he never worked for
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ukraine or the russian government. >> but he worked for the party. that's like someone saying i didn't work for the u.s. government, but i worked for the republican party. >> let's talk about things that we know far more of, and that is the clinton foundation cash. and by the way, who was it that had the infamous press conference resetting our relationship with russia? and who was it who really lost crimea? it was hillary clinton as secretary of state. she was the one who started playing footsies with the russians again. when they were down, their economy was down because of oil prices. ran to their aid. so if hillary clinton wants to bring up russia and try to wrap putin around donald trump, bring it on. because we're glad to talk about it. because it was the obama-clinton administration who resurrected russia and putin. >> congressman, donald trump has been encouraging his supporters. he actually spoke to them in pennsylvania, and he said, you should be on the lookout for voter fraud on election day. i want you to listen to what he said on friday.
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>> the only way they can beat it, in my opinion, and i mean this 100%, if in certain sections of the state they cheat, okay? so i hope you people can sort of not just vote on the 8th. go around and look and watch other polling places. and make sure that it's 100% fine. because without voter identification, which is shocking, shocking that you don't have it. many states it gets approved and some states they don't get approved. >> voter observation, and he's recruiting volunteers to do this. it sort of feels almost like a corps of observers that he's trying to recruit. some people say this is not too far. or this gets a little too close to the idea of voter intimidation, which is illegal. >> that is absurd. i have been on the ballot for
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over 30 years. on the state level and on the federal level. i always wanted people to be poll watchers, because you never know. particularly in precincts where they don't have voter i.d. it's always good to have somebody keep an eye on it. and you would not believe the stories that come back. and they're not necessarily ones about fraud. they're ones about voting machines that are turned off until 10:00 in the day. are people not showing up? are people -- all kinds of confusion. showing up at the wrong precinct and having fights about this is where i'm supposed to vote. >> but why has someone with a perspective doing that and not perhaps called for a third party? >> well, that's what america's all about. you know, democrat poll watchers, republican poll watchers, and i promise you, this is all about integrity for the system. in fact, i think if there's one thing that hillary clinton and donald trump should agree on is let's have integrity at the polls. and let's have observers there. i mean, i don't see any big deal about it. and again, i've run for the state house. and back in the 1980s, i used to do this.
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and so did my democratic opponents. it gave us both a comfort level. because you do hear all kinds of stories. some of the problems are totally non-partisan and just innocent. but other times, you just want to make sure you have an eye on things. >> he is talking about cheating in pennsylvania. we're still quite a ways out now, a little less than three months from the election. does he have a reason to believe there's going to be voter fraud? i mean, some people are looking at this and they're saying it's almost like someone who's building a reason for why he might lose in case he does. why does he think that there's going to be voter fraud? >> well, there was a report in 2012 about voting irregularities in pennsylvania, and they weren't really bad ones, but there was about voting confusion. and it was a nonpartisan government report, if you will, 2012. so i think what he's saying to our people is look, let's all plan to go to the polls. let's keep an eye on them. make sure nothing happens during the day. >> congressman, thank you so much. really appreciate you for being here. just ahead, donald trump
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stumbles in the battleground state map shifts. we will get an update on his fight to get to 270 electoral votes. does he still have a path to win the white house? plus, deadly flooding. dramatic rescues. these birds eye pictures. we will take you live to louisiana for the latest on this disaster that is still unfolding right now. well, it was nice to see everyone.
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we have been hearing something new from donald trump. he's opening the door to the possibility that he may lose the election. his remarks coming as his poll numbers slide in crucial battleground states. cnn chief national correspondent john king is at the magic wall, and john, you have been looking at all of the polls. where is the fight right now? >> if you look at our traditional battleground states, donald trump is in a ditch. a ditch so deep, even many republicans are wondering if he can get out of it in the 85 days between now and election day. in florida, the real clear politics average, clinton plus-3. that's being favorable to trump. the more recent polls had clinton up more. we're averaging polls the last month or so here, clinton plus-3 in florida. clinton plus-4 in north carolina. plus-8 in new hampshire. plus-10 in virginia. plus-11 in colorado. these are six states we usually watch closely right up to election day. if hillary clinton is leading in all of these states right now, donald trump has a problem. he says he has a plan b, but
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right now, he better focus on battleground states. >> he has talked about turning blue states red this cycle. what are the polls telling you about that? >> when you look at this, 85 days to go. this is bleak for donald trump in the traditional battleground states. he says he will make michigan red. well, right now, plus-6 for hillary clinton. he says he'll turn pennsylvania and its 20 electoral votes. right now, plus-9 clinton. we're using the more recent polls to show a bigger clinton lead in both of these states. she's up 9. and he even says he'll win his home state of new york. one poll out says it's a 25-point lead for hillary clinton. if you average them out, it's a 17-point lead. again, it's 85 days. here's where we rank it now in terms of the toss-ups. i won't waste too much time here. but if those polls held and she won michigan, she won ohio, she won pennsylvania, she won new hampshire, she won virginia, she
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won north carolina, and she won florida, then she beats donald trump by even more than president obama beat michelle obama. 85 days to go. if you're donald trump right now, you're looking at those polls, you're in a very deep ditch. >> that would give her many electoral votes to spare. john king, i want to talk more about this with you and i also want to talk about this with gloria borger, and cnn political director david chalian. you look at this pathway, which seems to be narrowing, to say the least. talk about how after the convention, and yes, it was earlier than usual, how hard it is to be at this point, to be down like this, and to come back. >> look, it's very hard to turn the battleship around. i remember during the primaries, we were saying, you know, it's the math. it's the math. it's the math. well, it is the math. and if you look at the states
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that john was talking about, you also look at reliably republican states, like arizona. like georgia. if they're moving to the toss-up column, then to john's point, he's got to flip a lot of these blue states. michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. and they have voted for democratic presidential candidates for more than two decades. so he's going to have to perform a little magic here, which maybe he can do. but it's going to be magic. >> i think the biggest takeaway, looking at john and all those numbers, is that every one of the states that he went through, the numbers were blue, not red. everything was advantage clinton. so show me the state right now that donald trump needs to win to put together 270 where he is leading right now. this is what the problem is. there's nothing -- it was astonishing watching john go through that. because nothing on the board was in his favor. everything from traditional battleground to nontraditional places, he's got to upend where
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it is right now. >> and the thought was some of these states that maybe wouldn't be in play for a republican that is more, you know, mitt romney-ish, john mccain-ish. donald trump might be able to put those in play. >> right. trump's campaign is banking on this idea of being nontraditional. it's like he's holding the inside straight and betting big on things going differently than they have for the past several elections. but as gloria said, it's the math. and now that he's got states like colorado, arizona, utah, even potentially as states that he has to defend, even if clinton doesn't win those states, the fact that he has to spend time on them is problematic. >> i think some of the numbers that are most troubling, the suburban republican women that donald trump is having some trouble with. that should be in his corner. and have trended away from him. and we have to see whether we can get those women back. >> you want understand the depth of the ditch. donald trump has defied logic,
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gravity, and history before. so don't count him out. but hillary clinton can play defense now. they understand what these polls say. so they can block him. they can invest more in ohio. invest more in florida and pennsylvania. keep the double-digit electoral college states away from trump. to gloria's point, if you look at the education cutoffs. hillary clinton is now at least even with donald trump on the question of who would best handle the economy. so all of the underlying dynamics are bending her way right now, too. he has to grab a battleship, as you said, and spin it. he has to do it quickly. >> how does he do that, when you look at a campaign, normally a campaign would be investing resources, they would have a ground game. he's relying on the rnc for that. he's not in the ad game. she had a huge olympics ad buy nationally. what does he need to do to change this, and where should he be focusing? >> again, there are a lot of complaints from republicans, get on television. and trump says -- >> and not in a way that's like
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get on television with saying something. get on television with an ad about hillary clinton. >> start making your case. in his view -- and again, he did win the primaries without doing much television. so donald trump's view is you people are all wrong. this is how you ran the last campaign. you're the same people who worked for mccain and romney. so trump's view is he can do this differently. there are a lot of republicans that acknowledge a general election is very different than a volatile civil war republican primary, if you will but that's one of the questions. get on television. number two is be consistent as a candidate talking about the economy, changing washington, and then crooked hillary. republicans are fine with the crooked hillary refrain. they want it to come after changing washington and creating jobs. >> david, he seems to be in a way saying things that tell us he has thought about the fact that he might lose. i mean, that's very -- the thing i think as political reporters, we watch candidates who can be down -- i mean, they can be down 17 points, i've seen them down so much in a race, and they'll say we're taking it to the end. and you know they know. so a lot of times, a candidate
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doesn't break. they say they're going to win even when they know they're not going to. he has actually said, he's talked about the possibility that he could lose. what does that tell us? >> at a big level, he's been so invested. especially throughout the primaries in his own rise, that he's having a hard time letting go of the idea that this is tightening up, that he could lose. and when you're explaining a race, or handicapping your own race, i think it's a signal that you're not doing well. i was just going to add, you know, part of trump's problem, i think, is that he's never run for office before. you learn how to run for president when you run for senator or governor. the idea that he could have just done all of this, starting from scratch, it's tough. >> but he's trying to motivate his base. if you say oh, we might lose, that means to your voters, we better get out there. the same way if he says, you know what? hillary clinton might be cheating in pennsylvania, that's another way to get your voters out there. and i think he's being honest
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about it. i think he looks at the polls. but it is a motivating thing, because this is going to be about getting out his voters and nothing so motivates your voters and your ardent supporters when they think you might lose it. >> let's talk about that. the idea of cheating. donald trump talked about this in pennsylvania, and he said if we lose, it's going to be because people are kecheating. what is he down, nine in pennsylvania? >> that's according to the average. more recently, she has even a bigger lead. >> it's even bigger. that is significant. so he is there. but he's saying it will be cheating that will cost him pennsylvania. what does that tell you? >> do you think if his average was plus-9 instead of minus 9 that he would be saying the same thing? probably not. listen, he is clearly laying some groundwork here of an argument to be made if needed later on down the road. no doubt about that. but the problem with that is that if he calls into question the legitimacy of the election
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at all, he's calling into question his own ability to perform in that election. because it's not just illegitimate on one side. if the election is illegitimate, it's illegitimate. so he has to be very careful about walking that line. the other point is the math, again, to go back to the math, it just doesn't add up. if you want to add up every voter fraud case ever in the state of pennsylvania, it's not going to equal the number of votes he needs if he's 12 points behind hillary clinton in this state. >> all right, i want to change the subject a little bit, talk about hillary clinton. she had a big day today, campaigning with the vice president joe biden, and he offered a lot of praise for her. but he seemed most passionate going after donald trump. he said that no major party nominee "has known less or been less prepared." how effective was he? how effective can he be for hillary clinton? >> i think he was effective, especially for just getting out there on the stump. as many people have said, trump is making it so easy for people like vice president biden, people like secretary clinton, people like all her other
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surrogates, to go after him and make this about him, because he keeps making this about himself instead of going on the attack against clinton's vulnerabilities. >> i want to talk about bill clinton, another one of hillary clinton's attack dogs or surrogates. he is proving to perhaps cause some issues on the campaign trail. here's what he said in response to a question about hillary clinton's e-mail issues. >> wait a minute. that's not true. the fbi director said, when he testified before congress, he had to amend his previous day's statement, that she had never received any e-mails marked classified. they saw two little notes with a c on it. this is the biggest load of bull i've ever heard. that were about telephone calls that she needed to make. and the state department typically puts a little c on it to discourage people from discussing it in public in the event the secretary of state, whoever it is, doesn't make a telephone call.
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does that sound threatening to national security to you? >> okay, so he sounds defensive. that's not good. but he's also trying to be an explainer. so how is this working for hillary clinton? >> look, this remains the biggest flashing red light for her campaign. a, the questions about will we learn more about her e-mails, about the notes being turned over. are there more e-mails to come. is there something in the dnc hacking. so there are questions about the specifics of the e-mails. and then there's the broader question that she has her one big question, is honesty and trustworthiness. so it's best for the clinton campaign to talk about this as little as possible, number one. but it would be easier if she would say, i heard director comey. he said some pretty damning things about me. maybe i don't agree with all of it, but this is a bigger problem than i thought it was in the beginning and i'm really sorry and it will never happen again. if she could do that, there will be less questions, but she can't bring herself to do that, so here we are. >> we've certainly seen her
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struggle on this, haven't we, gloria? >> yeah. i don't think bill clinton should be talking about it. but i honestly believe that he has explained things better than i've heard anybody else explain it. he's sort of tried to make it sound innocent in his own way. you know, they put a c next to it. that's because they don't want anyone to talk about it. and at least he was trying to explain it. and i think that explaining has been a problem. >> i think you're right, gloria. the only problem i have with it, from a campaigning perspective, is that it's like he's trying to lawyer this, instead of just trying to level with the average voter who is coming at this as a common sense issue. >> yeah, that's been a struggle. all right, john, gloria, davids, i should say. stay with me. we have much more ahead after a quick break. this is how you apply
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right now, we are getting breaking news out of the pentagon. cnns barbara starr is there for us. there's an announcement about terror detainees at guantanamo
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bay. >> the largest transfer of detainees out of guantanamo. three men from afghanistan, 12 from yemen, 15 in all that are being transferred to the unitd d arab emirate s in the persian gulf. these men had been under review for some time. some of them had approval reviewed some time ago. they found a country willing to take them. it is not about the men themselves, though they stand alleged of various crimes. it is about what happens with guantanamo. the obama administration committed to trying to get as many out as possible. it is down to 61 men at guantanamo bay. the height of it during the bush presidency, over 600 or so. the obama administration wanting to shut it down. donald trump, not related to
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this, but he, if elected would keep guantanamo open. he's talking abtd sending american citizens accused of terrorism to guantanamo bay. no reason the president's plan to shut it down is going to move through congress anytime soon. but, president obama, by bringing the overall numbers down to 61 and maybe down further before he leaves office leaves a dilemma for the next president and congress. do you spend the money to keep a handful there for an indeterminate amount of time or bring them to the united states? >> thank you. just ahead, more on donald trump's plans. could the controversial ideas like extreme vetting of immigrants be carried out? we are following breaking news in louisiana where new rain could add to the damage and misery caused by the historic flooding. your insurance company raises your rates.
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we are following breaking news in louisiana where thousands of homes are under water amid extensive flooding caused by two feet of rain. at least five people are dead. the coast guard rescued 20,000 people over the weekend. meteorologist jennifer gray is in baton rouge for us. is there any relief in sight? >> reporter: a little bit. yes and no. we are starting to see the water recede little by little. we have been here all day long. you can see the water mark behind me on the fence where the water was earlier this afternoon. it's dropped four to six inches, depending on where you are. it has a long way to go.
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we are talking ant feet here, not inches, feet. there are some areas that are 12 feet deep. there's water up to chest high inside people's homes. the street behind me is one of those residents saying the water came up so quickly, they had to gather what they could carry and leave. that's how fast the water rose. two feet in less than 24 hours. we have drone footage we got earlier. keep in mind, this is an area that six months ago had an historic flood and now we are talking about it again. this exact neighborhood wasn't flooded, but in general, this portion of the state, within six months to have two historic floods is unprecedented. this is called a 1 in 1,000 year flood. this is devastating for the area. i will tell you, brianna, i'm from louisiana. i know the pulse of this state. you are seeing it with the
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people in this air yachlt they are coming together. neighbors have been helping heech other. 20,000 people were rescued, can you imagine that? it doesn't count the good samaritans around here. there's a tent set up where we are standing and they are cooking food for more than 200 people. it really does warm your heart when you see people coming together in a time of need like we see too many times, unfortunately, with disasters like this. people really are helping each other out. they have a long way to go. it's going to be many days before the water recreted. people have a long road ahead. it is good to hear the stories out of this tough time. thank you so much. finally, i am happy to tell you, we want to talk about the very important assignment wolf blitzer is working on now. he is getting to know his first grandchild. ruben daniel schneider was born on friday, weighing in at 7
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pounds, 5 ounces. his daughter is home from the hospital with baby ruben. they are feeling great and they are thrilled. wolf, if you are watching all of us in the "situation room," cnn couldn't be happier for you and your family and the newest edition to the wolf pack. thank you for watching, erin burnett outfront starts now. >> next, donald trump's, you planned to destroy isis called for a vetting. is this a new version? trump's campaign chief under investigation tonight. did he receive millions of dollars in illegal cash payments? trump says the only way he will lose is if hillary clinton cheats. where is the proof? we go outfront. good evening, i'm erin burnett.

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