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vote for uma and any of your top ten heroes right now on cnnheroes.com. >> that's it for us tonight, thank you for watching. my name is mike rogers. i had access to classified information gathered. people who risk everything for the united states and our families. you don't know their faces or their names. you don't know the real stories from the people more live the fears and the pressure until now. there is accumulation of access. >> i think it is betrayal that gets me like how dare you.
almost every nation in the world are spies. most nations in the world spies against the united states. where he the number one target. there are at least 70, give or take 10 nations spying on the u.s. if you were to believe there are probably access of 100,000 foreign agents working in this country, that's not paranoia, it is a good guess. my name is chris simmons, i was in career intelligence officer. the defense agency is a pentagon apparatus figuring on the national security structure of every nation in the world. the way we became engage with
this case of a woman who led part of the fbi investigation took the initiative to set up the meeting. the fbi explained that we heard you and your team are the best there are on human intelligence and we are part of a spy case that involved huma, can you help us? >> i was concerned of the damage and could have inflicted and continue to inflict. i called scott carmichael. he was ahead of our investigation guy. >> i love being a spy hunter, i love the chase. nothing makes me happier for somebody to say well, scott, we got this tidbit of information, can you help us out. unknown subject investigations and those investigations where you have good reasons to believe
that espionage is occurring, you have no idea who's doing it. >> fbi is trying to identify the spies in the area. they had no idea who this person was or where this person worked. well, that's the problem. what they were talking about is a possibility that there is a cuban-asian with access to classified information. cuban does not opposed an incredible dangerous threat. the intelligence take is shared by cuba with other countries. we share information with iran and china and russia and even venezuela and north korea. what makes korea important is the world's biggest intelligence trafficker. i say that in the context of the sale barter or u.s. secrets is
one of central's engines of cuban economy. whether it is economic or military secrets, every country has interests in the united states and cuba, their ability to steal secrets, they out performed every nation in the world. [ applause ] cuban lives so good for several reasons. at the start of the cold war, the russians and all the wars sw the cubans as usual partners that'll not draw attention like they would. the russians and the polls and every service in the world trains the cubans. cuba exploited the perception that they are not a threat because it lows our espionage because it gets for clients. cuban agents can do it easily than russia or china.
building a case is like putting the puzzle together. the challenges, you don't know what the puzzle looks like and you don't know how many pieces there are. the fbi's case they have three distinct pieces of the puzzle as they share their puzzle pieces, turns out i had the fourth puzzle piece. that one piece of information fits perfectly into what they just shared and when we put it together, i told them that the fbi is looking in the wrong place because as i was doing the three things i have just shared and the fourth piece of the puzzle, there are 40 or 50 people that can do what your unsub can do and all likelihood is working in the defense of
sb intelligence agency more narrowly that a spy is in our building. >> what was the information that the fbi had and what did it show you? >> the information that our colleagues shared with us remains classified to this day. it would reveal some of our metho metho methods that the cubans are not aware of. some of the methods in the systems that dia employs collect information about other country's activities are so sophisticated. that's why espionage is so dangerous. if you tell other countries, hey, the united states is able to do this, they'll then guard that against us. and of course, that degrades our ability to collect the information that our war fighters need in the event they go to war with some country. that's the problem. for most of the years that i
worked for dia, i was a senior investigators. anybody engaged in espionage in the agency on my watch, that was in the front to me. i hate that. i think it is betrayal that gets me. how dare you? >> one investigative lead that the fbi had was the spying question had traveled to the guantánamo-cuba. i know people travel to get home, required permission to do so and they submit the request by message and it is searchable by keyword. it took me moments for me to submit my query. the system produced a hit files of a list of messages of about a hundred of them that matches the parameters. i hit my function keys quickly
just to see if i can recognize the names. the 20th one -- [ chuckles ] it was very emotional. the moment i saw her name, i knew. can i give it to you straight? that airline credit card you have... it could be better. it's time to shake things up. with the capital one venture card, you get double miles on everything you buy, not just airline purchases. seriously, think of all the things you buy. great...is this why you asked me to coffee? well yeah... but also to catch-up. what's in your wallet?
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the second i saw her name, i said oh [ bleep ]. i knew that ana was the queen of cuba. we probably had more time investing and the study of political affairs regarding cuba than anybody else, security plans was top secret with access to special intelligence. this stuff is so extraordinary sensitive that only handful of people would be given access to it. someone in this position could cause exceptionally grave dangerous. she can do that in a moment which means a greater possibility that our war fighters who are our boys and
girls will die. that's why this is not the game. at that moment, i realized i am the guy who knew she was a major spy, ana montes. this was not the first time i saw ana montes' name. i developed a gut feeling that there was something wrong and suspicious about this woman. when i saw her name again, i knew she was the spy they were looking for. >> four years early april 1996, one of our employees, reggie brown, came to me expressing concerns about ana. he says her accents caused me great concerns.
>> okay. ladies and gentlemen, i had just been briefed about the national security adviser on the shooting down today, two american civilian airplanes by cuban military aircraft. >> 1996, cuban military shot down two aircrafts operated by brothers to the rescue. piloted by a total of three american citizens were shot down on international aerospace. did you have relatives? >> that was a murder of three american citizens. the united states government scrambled to figure out what has happened and how we may respond. one of the first people called an expert to advise them was ana montes.
when the pentagon calls you in, you must stay in place until you are discuss mimissed. if you are there for months, you stay there until our senior leaders no longer has a need for your expertise. brown called the pentagon shortly after 10:00 p.m. that night just to ask ana a question but she left. reg thought that her actions leaving the pentagon early was suspicious. first thing i did was take a look at her own record, everybody has a personal file and a security file, i reviewed our files on ana montes and what i found was a model em employee.
she's been working at dia and she never -- she rose to the rank modestly. she was the kind of employers that supervisor holdup for others to emulate. the assumption that ana to be a spy did not make sense. i decided to interview her, she gave me great answers and when i started asking her about going home, did anybody see you. >> her demeanor changed. one minute, we are joking and laughing the same time and one moment she was scared to death that i knew something she did. i had no idea what it was. i walked away with the situation with a gut feeling that she was hiding something from me that
was important to her and that gut feeling played a major role for you four years later. in september of 2000s when her name popped up in that screen, i contacted the fbi, i met with them and i said look, i got an employee who is your suspect. the fbi had yet additional data that they were employing to major suspects. new information which i had not previously possessed. i referred to it as a template. she did not match up with that te template. they had a lot of confidence and v validity. they use it as a trump card on me. from the time i left the meeting until the time i took the elevator downstairs and i found
myself on the curb i knew that ana was at work three miles south, i can picture that woman is at our building and pulling that crap and placing or entire future at our own risk, she was going to get the hell out of there. i needed the fbi to make it happen. we are going to persuade the fbi that ana montes was the spy we were looking for. i realized that i had to attack the trump card. or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services
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the next morning on saturday, october 14, 2000s. i got up and could not sleep so well. i was so upset about the trump card. what i knew about ana did not match up of the new information at all. i knew she was the agent they were looking for. it was her. i never doubted my intuition. the next day i spent most o f the day examining the trump card and i discovered something.
i discovered a pattern that i recognized in an eighth grade statistics math class. my instructor told us if you see this pattern, you need to understand that the fixes in, somebody is manipulating the data in order to get the outcome that you are looking at. and i saw a pattern which i knew could never occur in iran world. it had to be the cubans. the fbi was using the trump card that was being manipulated. they did not know it. and so at that moment, i realized that i had cracked the trump card. i wrote up an 8-day memo and the next morning, i faxed the memo to the fbi, about an hour later, steve mccoy called me and the first thing he said was scott, i think we gotten off from the
wrong foot. i think we'll be working together for a while. i was relieved. the only way we are going to be successful is to work together and it was that moment that i knew we are going to be okay. one of the things the fbi did was assigned a lab. the first time i heard the name ana montes in 2000s. i knew the fbi gotten a name and suspect who may have matched on sub cases. i talked to steve mccoy and i said hey, i hear you are working with this neat case and you have a name. i would love to work with you on this. he said yeah, sure, i appreciate your help. from there, we worked the entire case together with scott. it is important to keep in mind that the fbi has to prove these
cases. we are the lead agency for the united states. the burrow is going to be the organization that brings charges against someone for espionage, there is a lot of pressure on us to get it right. knowing someone is guilty of espionage is fundamentally different than proving of someone's guilty of espionage. lets validate scott's claims that she and agent of a foreign power and the fact of who we are looking for and then lets try to catch her in the act of committing espionage. national security letters are hugely important tools for the fbi. national security letter is a letter that's issued by the fbi that compels financial institutions and credit institutions and telephones and companies to relinquish critical information, once montes is identified as a suspect, we
investigate on a full investigation on her. we had sensitive intelligence that toll d us the unknown subjt purchased a specific brand of computer in 1996 from a store in alexander, no further information. through national security letters, i identified ana's line of credit and from that, we knew that ana had made a purchase to co comp usa. in april 2001, we served a national security letter at comp usa and asked them to identify a specific purchase made here october 1996. they keep records for about five years. this was april of 2001. the record were almost destroyed. so we pulled out boxes and about 20 minutes there to, the system
manager from comp usa says "is this what you are looking for" it was the purchase that ana made for her name for the computer that we can prove that the cubans tested her to purchase back in 1996. the sales receipt for this purchase proved that she was in fact the spy. so, from april 2001, i had no doubt she was a cuban spy. the question is, is she currently spying and could we catch her in the act of espionage? s you bought ery day earned you miles to get to the places you really want to go. with the united mileageplus explorer card, you'll get a free checked bag, 2 united club passes... priority boarding... and 30,000 bonus miles. everything you need for an unforgettable vacation.
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surveillance and resource on her. >> we had a lot to do, the fbi put in cameras and microphones and all that sort of thing. >> we started to identify her pattern of behavior and what was her routine. watching her, she would leave her home on sunday and go to the metro and get on and go several stops and get off and walk and go some where else and wait for 90 seconds. thing that is a normal person does not. fr so you know something is off foot. when her shoes became untied, she stopped and unttied it. was she really tieing her shoes or signaling someone. she's got a pattern now and she's leaving work a particular
time and she's following a route. here is the route. she's going to the drugstores but she does not come out with a bag. what does she do in the store? >> turns out she was using the pay phones. not too long ago, we had pay phones everywhere. when you have a cell phone, and you have a home phone and when you have phones at your office, the fact that you go a couple blocks off your normal route to and from home to use a pay phone, that's suspicious. >> we want the legal paper work. she was calling a pager in new york city. those particular numbers, we knew associated with cuban espionage. and our suspicion were that she was punching in codes, three or four digits.
we knew she was communicating with a pager and sending signals that told us she was still active. we saw her making all these pay phone calls. the timing of which ambassadcou transported and before montes was identifying as a suspect, we knew the cubans were communicating by a high frequency would not have picked up using a short rage. the cubans would send a message on a tuesday and repeat it again on thursday and saturday. we knew that communicating to the cubans of the high frequency messages requiring encryption and decryption disks.
they were encrypted messages that no one else could read unless you have the matching software that the cubans gave to their agents. in order to catch her in the act, we knew we had to get her in her home. she live inside a 30 tenant ownership building so a huge challenge for us to get in her apartment without getting detected. our surveillance of her taught us that she had a boyfriend. her boyfriend lives out of town in florida. her traveling to visit her boyfriend, memorial day weekend, 2001, gave us an opportunity to get in her apartment to do a physical search. so when we went into her apartment, i was absolutely nervous. it was hot. there was no air-conditioning and although it was a small,
two-bedroom apartment. the last thing touyou want to ds someone coming home too early or someone watering the plants when you did not plan on them doing that. >> we started searching her apartment and first thing we found was the sony short wave radio in its box and out in the open and underneath an opened window. then we found the toshiba laptop computer. so our computer experts made a copy of the computer, the hard drive so that we can forensically analyze it and see what was on it. so ana montes, as she received and sent reports out and tried to delete that was on her computer. in the deleted space of her
computer. we found almost 11 pages of single space texts in english and spanish. in that text, we found national defense information that montes gave to the cubans that was classified. >> that was a hugely successful search. we can find the disk that the cubans given her. we would be able to read her encrypted messages and hopefully, know what the messages were between her and the cubans. the holidays should bring joy. so why are you still putting up with complicated cash back cards? some cards limit where you earn bonus cash back to places they choose... then they change those places every few months. quicksilver keeps it simple. with quicksilver you always earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere.
>> the fbi speculated that she was keeping this data on her purse. we could not find it because maybe she was carrying it all the time. the objection was to get that purse and search it without ana or something unusual occurred. we came up with a plan to separate her from the purse. >> we had inside access to ana's daily life. what occurred to us is that we could create a fake meeting that she would have to attend. >> we gave her a major speaking assignment where she will be visible to everybody, psychologically, it would not look good for her to have a purse sitting on top of her materials. we scheduled that briefing for 9:00 in the morning because we want to make sure that ana had time to settle in at work to put her purse in a drawer so she was just securing it.
she did. >> all the attendees were at the meeting and prepared to do an hour or an hour and a half discussions of important issues. once the door is closed the fbi technical team under a guy of being a maintenance crew went into her cubical doing routine maintenance on the facilities and had access to her purse. so while she was at the meeting, we had a short period of time to go through her purse. looking for r tthe disk. >> it was a typical woman's purse, cosmetics and wallets and a lot of purse type stuff in there. we looked and searched and could not find the disk there. so we could not find exactly what we were looking for. we did find something.
inside ana's purse, the fbi found a sheet of matrix which was materials that ana employed when she communicated with the cubans via pagers. that was what we were looking for to determine what the message was between her and cuban intelligence. once we had her brevity code, it is a matter of going to a phone and punching in the exact same code and we match it against the messages that would be sent in the future and know what she was telling new york. she did not perceive herself in danger and it was setting up future meeting to meet with her spy handler which every second week. if we can get a meeting with her spy handler, we'll get her convicted and put her in prison. she had the potential to be
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>> we just crossed the threshold. the united states of america was going to formulate some sort of response that would require assistance of report of defense agency. >> the after math of 9/11, dia, assembles a task force operations in afghanistan. >> ana montes was among those who were chosen. >> ana was going to be briefed on the war plan for operation and during freedom. the effort to remove the taliban from afghanistan. if ana montes gained access about our work plans, she could give it to the cubans who in turn would be happy to trade that information or share that information with other advers y adversari adversaries, possibly including the taliban. >> in that event, all the plans we executed during operation and freedom would have been known to
the enemy. >> i knew that our investigation with ana was coming to an end. we really wanted to catch her in the act of committing espionage with her handler who was handling and receiving the classified information. we knew that it was just too much risks and damage to keep her at dia. it was time to arrest montes conspiracy for espionage. it's your tv, take it with you. with directv and at&t, stream live tv anywhere, data-free. join directv today starting at $35/month. no extra monthly fees.
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>> we really wanted to catch her in the act of committing espionage with her handler who was handling and receiving the classified information. but we knew that it was just too much risk and potential damage to keep her at dia at such a sensitive time when we were launching a war. it was time to arrest montes for conspiracy to commit espionage. >> the fbi decided they'd like to effect the arrest over in our building. we decided to bring her down into the offices of the inspector general.
>> so, we were going to arrest her at work, but we still wanted to try and get her to make some incriminating statements. if we could get her to say things about her espionage in an interview before she's arrested, that would be a good thing for the prosecution. >> we started our interview. talked to her about this scenario that wasn't true, that there was a defector that came out from the cuban intelligence service and he talked about a penetration of the u.s. government. and quickly into this pretext, ana had this interesting physiological reaction. there was a rash that immediately broke out. they were on the side of her neck facing me. i could only see them. i had to kind of control myself and not go, look at that. she has this rash breaking out. so, she got them under control, and she was very focused and very firm. getting through this story, montes wised up to it and asked
if she was under investigation. and at that point in time, we told her she was under arrest for conspiracy to commit espionage, handcuffed her, and her life changed from that moment on. >> pete came out of the conference room with ana. she was in handcuffs, and i saw them walking down the corridor, if you will, towards me. she was almost standing in front of me, and she never looked at me. i doubt that she had any real idea as to what role i might have played in her capture. >> we're pleased to announce this morning that 45-year-old ana belen montes plead guilty, charged with espionage. it is a result between miss montes and the united states that will require her to fully cooperate with law enforcement
by providing information relating to all criminal and/or intelligence activities of which she has knowledge. >> as part of the plea agreement, she got 25 years for espionage. and in exchange for that, she agreed to be fully debriefed by the fbi and the rest of the intelligence community. she was debriefed for about seven months, exhaustively, probably three times a week, five or six hours a day. >> during ana's debriefing, they took her from the earliest days in 1985, when she started, all the way up to the day of arrest. >> what did you learn? >> she betrayed us in el salvador, compromised all of our military operations in central america throughout five years of the secret war during the 1980s. >> and to think, here was a woman that would literally sit across the table from special
forces teams going down range and pretend to be their friend, and then as soon as the meeting is over, contact her cuban handlers and say, you have another special forces team going on to el salvador. they'll be at this location on these dates. good luck. happy hunting. i'm convinced she willfully and intentionally took every action she could to kill americans in combat. it should make us all enraged. >> people from the intelligence community, every individual that she met from the u.s. government, if they were going to cuban covertly, she identified who they were and what their true mission was versus what their stated mission was. >> a lot of the information she shared will remain classified to the american public. isn't that ironic that information that you cannot read was read in beijing, moscow, teheran, cuba. there is no way, even in six months of daily, all-day interrogations, you're not going
to get everything that a career spy did in 16 years. we will never fully know the damage that she did to the united states. during the time we were debriefing her, we learned a lot about her motivation for being a cuban spy. >> so, in 1984, 1985, montes was working on her masters degree in international relations at johns hopkins university, and her mutual friend saw her in class, knew her opinions, and knew that she was diametrically opposed to u.s. foreign policy and what we were doing in that time period which was 1984, 1985. ana felt that the united states did not have a right to impose their will on other countries, especially in central and south america, and really disagreed with u.s. foreign policy at the time.
her friend sensed that she had this passion that the cubans would be interested in. she was introduced to the cubans via a diplomat, their undercover. he recognized she had a visceral empathy for the cuban plight for the cuban cause. and that's folks who they really reach out to and ultimately trust to be their agents. >> ana's cubicle was devoid of anything personal. it was all devoted to business. but ana's cubicle wall posted next to her computer monitor was a piece of paper, that was lined and written in script, the king hath note of all they attempt, by interceptions which they dream not of. >> fidel castro is aware of all of their plans by some secret means they can't even imagine. this was an inspirational quote she posted to her wall so that
every time she saw it, she could see it and motivate herself as a spy. you know, people commit espionage are a place in our collected security at risk. our boys and girls in uniform who are fighting battles for us are going to die because somebody stabbed them in the back. that's what espionage is, death. and that's why guys like me work so hard to find these people. i have told people that hunting for spies is like trying to find a ghost in the fog. and you've got to believe, first of all, that they're there. and then you have to have enough drive to keep looking.
as a former fbi agent and chairman of the house intelligence committee, i had oversight of all 16 of our nation's intelligence agencies. my name is mike rogers. i had access to classified information gathered by our operatives. people who risked everything for the united states and our families. you don't know their faces or their names. you don't know the real stories from the people who lived the fear and the pressure, until now.
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