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top of the hour, i'm poppy harlow and you're live in the cnn news room. we begin with politics and president-elect donald trump just wrapping up his final stop on his thank you tour with an hour-long speech and rally at mobile, alabama. he said this is where it all began, and saying you should never give up. ryan nobles was on the ground.
>> donald trump making adulthood on a campaign promise returning here to mobile alabama, the site of one of his first major campaign rallies. he brought out a crowd of some 30,000 people. on similar he told a similar sized crowd this is where it all began. >> thank you very much. this is where it all began, remember that? incredible rally we had and people came out and it was like this. packed, incredible, and people said something is going on there. that was the beginning, wasn't it? if you remember, even though you don't have to vote for me, maybe four years we'll take a look, right? i said i'm coming back to see you in alabama, right? >> now trump gave the crowd a history lesson detailing state by state his victory on election
night. what he didn't do was wade into some of the complex policy issues that awaits him. he didn't mention china, russia, despite the relationship with those countries becoming an issue. he focused on campaign promises, specifically how he plans to help the american economy. he went off script a bit criticizing michelle obama for an interview she recently gave to oprah winfrey where she suggested a sizable part of the country lacks hope because of a trump victory. >> michelle obama said yesterday there is no hope. but i assume she was talking about the past, not the future. because i'm telling you, we have tremendous hope. and we have tremendous promise and tremendous potential. we are going to be so successful
as a country again, we're going to be amazing. i actually think she made that statement not meaning it the way it came out. i met with president obama, and michelle obama in the white house, my wife was there, she could not have been nielgser. -- nicer. i believe she meant that in a different way than it came out. i believe there is tremendous hope and beyond hope such potential. >> now he goes to his estate in palm beach, florida, where he spends the holiday with his family. we could learn about more appointments to his administration in the coming weeks. brian, thank you very much, let's bring in season political analyst josh rogan.
good to see you. it sounded like a campaign speech. he has the bully pulpit, the world is listening, and most of the time was spent with attacks. a lot of attacks on the media. he did not mention russia. he did not mention china stealing a u.s. navy research drone. he mocked hillary clinton and her campaign buying fireworks, and then at the end and came and to say he promised jobs and those who were forgotten he would help again. >> he is still campaigning or at least relishing the end of the campaign. everyone talks about will he pivot to a more presidential stance and speak like a president would. he has not pivoted yet, and he is especially relishing these last few moments.
if you saw in the speech, he said maybe i'll just continue to do this, continue the rallies, continue the style. he doesn't see any reason to change. so there is a feeling here he might simply just redefine what it means to be presidential. for him that means a couple things that you pointed out. one, he takes everything personally. he lashed out at the new york times. at paul krudman in response to a tweet he send earlier. this is not a change, this is a continuation of exactly who donald trump is and who he will remain. >> do you read it as more about the messaging than about the policy, or not? i mean the con dex of this is that it comes on a day where he has tweeted, you know, about china stealing that u.s. research drone, navy drone,
saying they would return it, and he does it within 24 hours after president obama held that long press conference yesterday where he pointed his finger at vladimir putin saying hacking like this doesn't happen without the man at the top knowing. neither china nor russia was mentioned once. >> trump's spokesman says donald trump deserves credit for having china return the drone. i think if you look at the difference really between the long press conference that president obama gave just yesterday, and the long rally speech that donald trump gave just now, you see two different styles, one focusing on a president with a high iq. he is very cerebral, and donald trump who has a very high eq,
emotional intelligence. he knows what people want to hear, he knows what they get competed about. that is the biggest difference. it is going to be a president who speaks from off the cuff, from his heart, not with a great grasp of the facts, not with any policy specifics yet. and that is who donald trump is. so we should not expect anything different. hopefully when he is president, we will get policy details, but i think right now they just don't exist. >> you don't think he was just speaking to the crowd that was in front of him and the crowd was people that voted for him, some for economic opportunity. he promised a return to old america. you don't think he was just talking to the crowd he informs front of and addressing their primary concern, the economy and jobs? >> i have seen him give a lot of speeches over his thank you tour and dozens and hundreds of
speeches in the last year and a half, he is the same guy no mat who are he is speaking to. he is not tailoring his message other than this state or that state, thank you michigan or thank you pennsylvania. he is who he is. he is authentic, the facts are wrong, policy details don't exist, but in a way he is emotionally honest if not factual and specific. that's what people like about him. that is what he will continue to do. >> nice to have you on, josh rogan, thank so much. president obama vowing to retaliate for russian related hacking. this is what the president suggested yesterday without directly pointing the finger saying that vladimir putin must have known about it. >> not much happens in russia without vladimir putin.
this is pretty heirarchial operation. there is not a lot of debate and democratic deliberation particularly when it comes to policies directed at the united states. >> jill dougherty is joining us. let me get your reaction and thoughts and particularly what you're hearing out of moscow and how the russian media is responding. >> what president obama said about president putin is actually true. he is the number one guy in russia. and practically everything that happens is a reflection of his views or the way he looks at the world, and a lot of people, in fairness, a lot of russians support his ideas. but i was looking at the media
today, rub shssian media, and t was one thing that came up. you may have seen the tweet by donald trump in which he misspelled a word. he said he wanted to say unprecedented, he was talking about that drone that the chinese grabbed he wrote unpresidented. it became a big deal in the social media world, and the russian media picked it up. i was quite surprised about that. all of the coverage has been very complimentary, and to see even a little hint of some type of criticism, mocking, et cetera, is interesting and it reminded me of something in all of this, which is, you know, when you get into president putin, yes, he may think that donald trump is a better
candidate for him. a better president, because donald trump says nice things about him. but it ultimately, what they're trying to do, is weaken the influence of the united states. which is a way of helping rus a russia's influence around the world. i think we have to watch that they're not going to necessarily have a continuing love fest with donald trump. donald trump does something that will not go along with what president putin wants, or thinks, they could very well turn on him, too. so watch that space. >> to that point, it's a very interesting point you make, let's listen to what president obama said yesterday about how he does believe that russia can harm the united states. >> the russians can't change us, or significantly weaken us. they're a smaller, weaker
country. their economy doesn't produce anything that anyone wants to buy except oil and gas and arms. they don't innovate. but, they can impact us if we lose track of who we are. they can impact us if we abandon our values. >> what's your assessment of that given what we know about russia? >> i think it is very, very true. he said they don't have anything to sell but gas and oil and unfortunately that is true. and they don't really innovate, and that's why you have tens of thousands of russians out valle.
again, i think the game is by russia as a natural thing. they want to diminish america's influence and if they can do that by dividing americans, or just sitting back, i think they're just -- russian propaganda, can just sit back, put their feet up on the football, smoke a pcigar, and nt think of anything other than quoting what donald trump or critics or anyone else says right now. they're watching americans attack each other. >> do you think that vladimir putin gains if too much is made of the russian hacking? and it is incredibly serious, and it needs to be stopped, but my question to you, is, if putin believes he has been extraordinarily successful in facilitying an election, if that's the case, or in
undermining american democracy as we know it, is that beneficial to him? >> i think it is beneficial because in his view, it is a zero sum gain. the more the united states loses, the more russia gains. and around the world, you can make that argument that the more chaotic, the more dysfunctional american democracy looks, the more his ideas about a managed democracy, you know, a managed democracy, managed by the top, that gains traction around the globe. it looks like the americans can't even function. and so having a strong leader, remember that is a big idea in this election. obama's weak, putin is strong, and 37% of republicans think that, you know, give their approval to president putin. that is.
>> that sr. a poll that the president mentioned yesterday. it does not mean cnn's vetting standards for polls, but it was brought up by the president, thank you, we appreciate having you on the program. coming up next, aleppo syria. on the ground with a raw look at the daily life in war torn aleppo. later we take you to west virginia to see how donald trump won over voters in coal country.
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more than five years as the war rages on. thousands of children including women, thousands of civilians including women and children remain trapped in freezing testimonies there. they wait and pray they will with evacuated. forces on the brink of retaking aleppo. the united nations this week described the situation as a complete melt down. this is ways reminding us, a boy
pulled out of the rebel, and this one was a boy who died while they were fleeing the civil war. just two of thousands of children that were in a world shattered by war. before the cease fire, a worker facebook channel 4 news captured a glimpse of the hell that aleppo has become. some of these images are incredibly graphic. >> tender words for a child that kind find it's owner.
his brother, one month old, and his face is the only restful thing in this bedlam. but this is the sleep of the dead. he was suffocated in the ruins and he doesn't want to let go of his brother's body. aleppo is a place where the children are crying. role has reserves roles, and the boy now acts like the father he lost.
her rock knowing this place has no real answer. in another room, brother and sister are still waiting for news of their mother. on another hospital bed, blanketed with dust. exhausted beyond words by a life beyond description. >> next, where has the international community been and what else can be done to help these innocent victims of syria's civil war? coaching means making tough choices.
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and children have been killed. my guest joining me now wrote an opinion peace called "responsibility to protect: empty words after aleppo" you begin with "the duty to prevent genocide and mass atros cities lies first and fore most with the state. these are words from the united nations back in 2005 regarding the responsibility to protect, but instead you say the international community has talked, spread blame, and talked more. >> yay, i think if you look at what is happening to mothers and fathers on the ground in syria, and you have talked for months now about how this is really a crisis that the world watched in real team on youtube, monitors, commuters, and done almost
nothing. all in realtime with all of us watching, and the whole idea of the peace was the responsibility to protect is so much worse. but if you're suffering on the ground, that's all they are. >> here is what president said yesterday, gayle. he was asked about this in the press conference he gave yesterday afternoon. he was asked if he feels responsibility. >> i am president of the united states, i feel responsible. i ask myself every single day is there something that i could do that would save lives and make a difference and spare some child who doesn't deserve to suffer. >> he said in previous interviews that the war in syria launts him every day.
talking to people inside the obama white house who have said for years, 2013, 2014, 2015 that the cost of inaction was never really fully weighed. and that is from people that wanted to see more done early on. this administration feels it was elected very understandably to end wars, not start them. so there was a desire to stay out at almost all costs. >> you wonder about former president bill clinton talking about his biggest regret while in office. and the lack of intervention. and help in rwanda. you think about res slessons le from history, what's your tame? -- take? >> i think the lessons came from the iraq war. not getting involved unless you guarantee that getting involved will not have second and third
round effects that make things work. when you young activists, i was doing a lot of what's happening, and people were talking about how the international community for them is an idea that no longer exists. when you can watch bunker busters fall on moms and dads trying to protect their kids in eastern aleppo, it's hard to believe the international community is a real thing. >> president obama said a few months ago when he was asked about exactly this, what to do in syria, and he regrets what alternative action there could be, take a listen. >> the idea that under any circumstances we would be in a position to take over syria, and do in syria what we have done in iraq, and then maybe go to yemen and do the same thing there, and maybe go to libya and -- it would be endless.
>> talking about iraq and lessons learned. the assad regime. in some 30 days the crisis falls into the lap of putin. what is the number one thing you think it is that they should do to help those innocent victims and children we just saw. >> this has been the question all along. whether or not they should intervene and what happens if they don't, what's the cost of inaction, what's the price tag. and it is a very much emboldened russia and iran shaping facts on the ground. to create safe zones in syria.
right now even civilians getting in and out of aleppo, where do they go that will be safe? almost no place offers that safety. the question is will president-elect trump have enough pull to allow any kind of safe zone to exist and that is a very much open question. >> and you have called the war in syria, the war that has run out of adjectives, and it certainly has. >> for all of you watching, if you want to help, go to cnn.com/help. a lot of ways there to help. >> why would a town run by democrats vote overwhelmingly for donald trump. >> if he will try, just half, try to help us, that's more than we have had in eight years. >> we're taking you to coal country. a west virginia mining town
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one of the poorest parts of west virginia is pinning their hopes on donald trump. they were once a thriving community of families and coal miners. people there blame the collapse of the coal industry. so martin savage is telling us why they're betting on the president-elect. >> things are so bad, the sheriff has to plead with commissioners not to lay off half of their deputies. things are so bad, a 32-year-old, husband and father, has been laid off four times in one year. >> it's hard, i'm not going to lie. >> things are so bad, the local
walmart closed. the local food bank's biggest supplier. once home to million dollar coal fields, now they're last for almost everything in west virginia with one exception. deaths due to overdoses of prescription opioids. >> we're putting a lot of coal miners out of business. >> we're going to put the miners back to work. >> is it any wonder why 75% of the country voted for drumpgs? every elected official here is a democrat, including the sheriff. >> elected nine times as a democrat. and when you voted for president this time -- >> i voted for trump.
>> and county commissioners. >> i voted for trump. >> like his father and grandfather, adam rourke was thrilled on election night. >> facebook was going off. ding ding ding. 96% of us were coal miners. >> in a state whose residents like to point out that most jobs are linked to coal mining, folks already feel the change. >> since the election, the coal industry seems to have changed a little bit. >> rourke has been called back to work and other operations are opening back up. >> will it come back the way it used to be? >> at the moment, not 100% the way it used to be, but i think it will get back up close to it. we're hoping that
president-elect trump, when he is elected, he probably can't do anything, you know what, he can't, but if he will do half, just try to help us, that is more than we've had in eight years. >> no one is expecting a return to king coal, but in mcdowell county, thing are so bad they'll try anything. >> it was based not on party, but on -- >> hopes and dreams. >> martin savage, cnn, welch. today, full military honors for john glenn. a marine corps honor guard lead the procession. he died on december 8th and he
was 95 years old. among the speakers today, the vice president. >> john was one of the happiest people i ever knew. think about it. one of the happiest people i ever knew. he had an infectious smile. even when things looked like everything was crashing down, john would walk into my office or a caucus with a big smile on his face and i would wonder where in the hell has he been. the best description of him that i have ever heard, and i knew him for 40 years. he said john, came out of the heart of the country like you kids do. and he stole america's heart. he came out of the heart of the country, and he stole america's heart. >> john glenn, marine, colonel,
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the murder of 6-year-old jonbenet ramsey is one of the biggest unsolved cases. we have a special tonight at 8:00 p.m., and we have reports on new tests that will soon be done on key evidence in the case. >> stan garnett confirms with me that the next year, 2017, they will be doing brand new testing in the jonbenet ramsey case. it comes about because the
colorado bureau of investigation is opening up new lab with new techniques and equipment. forensic science is always developing so they will be using state of the art equipment with new techniques. he doesn't know if the testing will be on actual potential evidence in the case like her clothing or if they will rerun numbers and new programs with new equipment. he also said they're going to be looking at other cold cases to see if they can find justice for those victims. a world of caution. he says even if they find brand new dna on this evidence that i have not had before, they need it to corroborate other evidence they already have in the case. this is much more, he says, than just a dna case. he also says if anything significant comes from this testing, the public will definitely be apprised of the findings. >> the special report is at 8:00
p.m. eastern pacific and again on thursday. an american designer famous around the world tells me how she was underestimated. >> i think we all need to collectively say there needs to be more women in leadership roles and on boards. >> using her success to do more than improve her company's bottom line. "american opportunity" is next. you're live in the cnn news room.
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in this week's american opportunity, her name and brand are known around the world. designer tori burch runs a billion dollar power house. she struggles with the ♪ forbes reports that you are one of just 18 self-made female billionaires in the united states. on the path to that, did you hit any per verb ral grass ceilings? >> i think i hit many. a lot of times, i don't pay attention. when i first started the company, my parents said, buckle your seat belt and thicken your skin. i think that was great advice. >> why you have struggled with the word ambition, through your life? >> that was funny. i didn't know i struggled with it. when i first started the company, the first article written on me and what we were doing, and my friend called me
and she said, i love the article, but you got shy when he said, you're ambitious. and i said, yeah. it's funny. i did shrink away from that word. there's a negative connotation associated with ambitious women. >> that was back in 2004, a "new york times" profile on you. why was ambition negative? >> i don't think it was a thought process. it just seemed like it was a very negative term, addressing a woman. i knew that there was that out there. and i wanted to change that. desperately. >> i thoug i thought, wow, that's just nod idea. >> you told "new york magazine" there was, quote, a lot of eye rolling when i started my business. what does that mean? does that mean gender discrimination because you're a woman? does that mean a perception that, oh, i'm just going to start a little brand? what is that? what was the eye rolling? >> there were a few pats on my back. when i went to fund raise, i sate, i wanted to start a global international business so that i
could start a foundation. >> when you have been underestimated? >> oh, gosh. i'm sure many times, but i think in the beginning of the company, as i said, people thought it s was, quote, a vanity project. i didn't really know what that meant, but certainly, when you start a business, you work so hard, the hours are so long, that for someone to say that is a bit ironic. >> a study from 2014 shows that women led tech companies, specifically, get less than 5% of funding. less than 5%. why is this happening in 2016? why is funding so hard, seemingly, for female entree neu entrepreneurs to come by? >> it's a scary stay ttisticsta. it has to change. >> you called it a systemactic impendment. what needs to change? >> there need to be more women
in leadership roles. there needs to be more women on boards. that's something i'm working on here. we have to be able to give people an environment that makes it easy to have a family and also be in business. >> so, the way that, say, germany has tackled it as they have now instituted quotas. you have to have x amount of women on your board. are we at the point where this has to be government-mandated? >> i mean, i think that's hard to do, because you also want the best person for your board and you can't just look at gender. it has to be the best person at what you do. i think women have a very different perspective and it's a mess if you don't have women on your board. >> are women ceos treated differently? >> it's a shockingly low number, so, yes, they're treated differently, i'm sure. i try not to focus on that. there's definite lly sexism. that has to stop. >> let's talk about family leave. a lot of people in this country don't have that, and they rely on the government and the government doesn't provide it.
looks like that's going to change. >> it has to change. and certainly, we give three months here, as well. and that's wonderful that we can do that, but there has to be -- there has to be that in place. and that's something, or, else, how do you expect women to be moms and have a career? or if the father is the caretaker? we do it for men and women. >> let's dive into the foundation. when you started this company now, more than a decade ago, it was part and parcel of your vision, right? start a company, do well, be profitable, use that power and money to start a foundation. what's the goal of the work you're doing on that front? >> so, we started a foundation to empower women entrepreneurs in the united states. and i think at some point, we want to be global, but for now, there's so much to do here now. >> what is your dream for it? >> well, i think if we could be that source for women entrepreneurs, globally, eventually, and that's something that i would love to do, is be a global foundation. right now, the united states is a great starting point.
we have a lot to do here, but i think if we could be an inspiration for women to embrace ambition, to understand that they can get loans, to enter some of our education programs and really feel great about what they're doing and build their confidence, that would be what i would wish for. >> tory burch, thank you for that. coming up next, what happens when a trump supporter, who once sucker punched a protester, comes face to face with that man again? you might be surprised. the two gentlemen decided to hug it out. >> in our america, next. known for its perfect storm of tiny bubbles,
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this country, there are also moments of unity. and we want to make sure that you see those, as well. a donald trump supporter and the protester that he hit in the face, well, look. they are hugging it out. they met once again, this time, in a north carolina courtroom. john franklin mcgraw elbowed rakeem jones in the face at a trump rally, back in march. now, months later, franklin apologized in court. listen. >> we got caught up in a political mess today and you and me, we have to heal our country. >> trump protester rakeem jones opened up, also, about why he accepted that apology. >> i just felt good being able to shake his hand and being able to, you know, being able to actually face him. >> the two men agreed to work together to try to heal the nation. the trump supporter was sentenced to one year of
probation, but again, a hug at the end of all of it. thank you so much for joining us tonight. next on cnn, a cnn special report. "the murder of jonbenet." then, he was the star of the personal transformation moment, but james arthur ray pushed too far. "enlighten us," a cnn film tonight at 9:00. i'm poppy harlow in new york. i'll see you back here tomorrow night. have a good night. the following is a cnn special report. >> police. 755 15th street. >> what's going on there, ma'am? >> it is one of the greatest unsolved crimes in history. >> we have a kidnapping. there's a ransom note here. >> a little girl vanishes from home christmas night. >> it's just like you got hit in the stomach. where's my child? >> hours later, she's found strangled to death. >> i couldn't do anything but scream.