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burns on the ground for us in berlin. chris, i'm curious if you have had a chance to speak to anybody there and to see what is the level of relief that he has been caught. >> reporter: miguel, we have not. this has just broken. german authorities are in contact with italian authorities. obviously they had to be to provide the information needed. the fingerprints found on the truck here inside and outside that truck showing that anis amri was the guy who crashed that truck into the christmas market. yes, there is contact there. as far as relief, it probably we will be a lot of relief here. it is still a nation on edge because you still have this network that anis amri worked with and will that stir things further? who knows?
we saw based in brussels and we saw after one suspect was taken in custody and there was another attack. we have to watch out. they are very much on alert. this support network from abu allah. a hate preacher. had been helping them and connecting them with isis. this is something that remains. there are hundreds of people like anis amri in germany tracked by german authorities. miguel. >> that's what so many of the german people and german press are asking this morning about the gaps as you point out between the guy. the american authorities had been alerted about this guy. he managed to get away for a couple days. the question now, chris, will be piecing together who he talked to and where did he get money and where did he get the car. how did he get to italy. was he in contact with anybody else. >> reporter: yes, because those
connections could lead them to other people who may be plotting. we saw the other attack. we don't know if it is linked, but we saw the plot at the largest shopping mall in europe in oberhausen. two were arrested. late 20s or early 30s. kosovo refugees. a lot of refugees in 1999. a lot of young people living here who many have been able to protletized. others have to watch out for. they have to try to prevent this radicalization from continuing because we will see more attacks. >> chris burns, hang on. we want to go to ben wedeman in italy for us by phone. ben, the details of this. was he actually in the train station or was he transited by
car when he was stopped? >> reporter: he was stopped. he was on foot outside the train station. we don't know how he got there or where he intended to go. he was stopped at 3:00 in the morning by a police patrol which is not unusual late at night in italian cities. they asked him for his documents. when he reached into his backpack, apparently according to police, he pulled out a ..22-caliber pistol and opened wounding one of the police officers. one officer managed to fire back killing the suspect. yes, it is not clear at this point according to the italian police what he was doing there. it's not clear whether the police were working on a tip or just very good luck as far as law enforcement. >> we don't know how he got
there. we know it is not a surprise he would go to italy. it is a country he is familiar with. he spent time in prison there. he spent several years in prison, ben, for starting a fire some years ago at a refugee center. this is someone originally from tunisia, but by all accounts, this guy had become a hardened criminal. >> reporter: and according to what the reports we're getting before he left tunisia, he did have problems with drugs and alcohol and these problems continued in italy. he lit on fire and set a fire in a refugee center at the italian island where many refugees first arrived. he spent four years in italian prison. that is probably where he came into contact with the
radicalization. the prisons, whether it is in the middle east or europe, they are becoming schools for people who like anis amri who go in as petty criminals and come out as radicalized potential terrorists. that seems to be what happened, perhaps, with him when he spent time in italian prison. >> ben, stepping back from this a bit. we have foiled plot attack in germany. a foiled plot in australia right now. what is the sense in rome and across cities in italy as we move into the christmas season? are they on alert for amri, clearly, but for other attacks as well? >> reporter: certainly. there has been an increased police and armed police if
cities going back to the attack in the beginning of january of last year. certainly when you go to most areas where people congregate, you will see there are soldiers, there are police and plain-clothe police. italian authorities are very much on alert for potential attacks. you speak to many italians. they are ill at ease that nothing has happened yet so far in this country. they worry it is only a matter of time before similar attacks happen here. italian intelligence is quite efficient when it comes to monitoring and watching suspects. i've read the transcripts of some of the documents where they monitor suspects. they really do follow them quite
closely. we may have a case here of intelligence service to fight that because people are concerned there could be similar attacks. >> ben, here are the questions we are trying to chase down here. how he got to italy. whether police had information specifically in italy to be looking for him near milan. those are all questions we are trying to get answers. chris burns is listening to the italian news conference. there is the live picture of the press conference happening right now talking about the details. we know from our reporting that the german officials and italian officials are in contact here about this suspect and identifying the suspect. i want to bring in josh rogin. he is a contributor who covers international events. he is in the washington, d.c. bureau. he is a columnist for the
washington post. there is a lot still to be written about how safe you'euros are and where we go from here with who else may have been involved in anis amri. >> reporter: that is right, christi christine. i think this is the end of the first chapter of the saga. the manhunt completed, but the real questioning of what this means for europe and the fight against terrorism is just beginning. let's review what happened over the last few days. a real failure in homeland security and questions about the initial phases of the investigation. questions about why this individual wasn't more closely surveilled and how closely germany and europe will deal with the issue of vetting of refugees and the pouring of people from syria and other parts of the middle east into their countries and the
political fallout that opponents of leaders of the governments will surely propagate in the days and weeks and months ahead. so we can take one moment to appreciate the fact that there's some level of justice for the victims and the perpetrator has been dealt with. really the problem is just far from solved. >> more immediately, josh, the concern that you have a foiled plot in australia, five arrested. the ringleader was egyptian born. everybody else in the plot was australian born. you have another plot just busted up in germany at the same time this guy was arrested alone. which is a good sign he was just a one-off and working alone. western capitals and western cities being targeted this christmas seems to be a theme
all of a sudden. >> yeah. not just all of a sudden. it is getting worse and worse. it is the new normal. it is a situation here to stay. it is worth looking at governments have dealt with the threat. on the one hand, you have countries in europe far along in what we call countering radicalization. they have a proactive approach because they have been dealing with this for a long time. you look at countries in europe are dealing with the problem of refugees and the potential for radicalization and violence by people coming into their countries from abroad. on a greater scope and scale, people in australia and more people than governments in the united states. it was a failure by the german authorities, but every country will redouble their efforts to coordinate by sharing intelligence and creating databases to keep track of these guys better and communicate this
information to make sure there are as few holes in the security net as possible. there is no 100% defense. the intelligence and homeland security and counter radicalization are really far behind in countries. no more chance to wait. we have to fix this now. >> josh, let's say what the foreign minuistry is saying now. he said the suspect is without a doubt -- the suspect they shot dead near milan -- without a doubt he is the berlin truck killer. they are working with german officials to make sure they have -- we don't know is whether they knew to look for him or not. you talk about there never will be 100% certainty. i think so much of the german press is talking about the gaps. even the united states was alerted about this guy. he had been in their grips and it was a paper work error and
they could not deport him. at some point, this is dangerous for incumbent leadership, doesn't it? >> absolutely. sometimes it is better to be lucky than good. that's going to happen. you know, no way to look at what happened without calling this a huge intelligence failure on part of the german authorities and partners around the world. everybody knows what needs to be done. everybody knows what are the obstacles. despite we keep encountering the failures. this goes back to paris and brussels attacks last year. this is not the first time that we had a beat on one of these guys and they slip through the net due to bureaucratic incompetence. everybody knows it has to be fixed. the question is when will it be fixed? that will take some international leadership here. because this is not a problem that can be solved by any one
country or any one set of borders. you have all of the stovepipe systems at various levels of efficiency and reliability. it is just not working. we have to build in more resilience and coordination and increase intelligence. you cannot surveil everybody who is a threat. it is not feasible. we have to be smarter and more collaborative in the way we approach the issue. >> josh, hang on. marco, the italian opiniministe saying without a doubt, the berlin attacker, anis amri, is now dead. josh, can you walk us through what you know about how they caught him and that particular place. >> reporter: they caught him outside the giovani train
station. a suburb of milan at 3:00 in the morning. police stopped a man. this is not unusual late at night in the italian cities. they asked him for his documents. he reached into his backpack and pulled out a a.22-caliber pisto and hit a police officer in the shoulder. one was shot and killed and shot to death. anis amri. the italian police found on the body of anis amri what appeared to be a train ticket that came to milan via france. it is important he bought a train ticket in europe and if you are crossing borders or not, you don't actually have to produce any form of identification. it is like buying a bus ticket.
get on the train and get a ticket and off you go. there are no controls at the borders. it is not surprising that he managed to get all the way from berlin to milan undetected. he ran into this patrol outside the train station and this has happened. the italian authorities obviously are positioned with the press conference just ended with applause from the journalists there. >> ben, can you repeat that? how was he able to get a ticket from germany to italy? >> reporter: well, this is what the italian press is reporting. they found a train ticket on his body that indicated he came to italy via france.
it is easy enough to buy a train ticket. within europe, you don't have to produce identification. that's one way he got here. that is what we are seeing in the italian press. >> it must come as relief that he appears to have been travel ago lo ing alone. appears he is not working with anyone? >> reporter: yes. you have to ask why did he return to italy? keep in mind, he spent several years in italian prison. six separate prisons. it was probably there that he became radicalized. we understand he did have a criminal record. as a result of being in prison, he probably came in contact with people who essentially brainwashed him into becoming not only just a criminal, but a
terrorist and extremist as well. the question is if he was coming back to italy, who was he coming back to see. >> ben, that is one of the big questions for policymakers when they talk about this trend. this zero to hero or loser to lion trend. where these guys go in to prison as petty criminals and come out jihadists. the romantic jihadi narrative that catches root like cancer in these guys' brains. instead of watching people 24/7 when they are on a list, is there an effort under way to prevent this radicalization? >> reporter: that's a good question. the problem is when you have extremists -- people who have committed crimes, you put them in prison. you put them in prison with other people of similar fate.
how do you change the culture within prison? it's a very good question. the current focus is not so much on prison culture. the current focus is on preventing attacks and intelligence on potential terrorists. as i said before, i have seen the documents put out by the italian prosecutors not for publication. the italian s follow the suspecs in ways that is surprising. these documents have detailed transcripts and show phone conversations and show you where these people went and who they met and where they slept. they keep a close eye on potential suspects. what goes on in prison and how prisoners interact with one another, that's another different can of worms. >> clearly this is a problem in
europe and this dead suspect doesn't end those questions. >> we have a big bust ben in australia. five individuals arrested. one egyptian born and one australia. another foiled attempt in germany aside from amri. ben, what is the sense in rome and cities across italy? >> reporter: italians are feeling uneasy. the fact that nothing has happened here so far. attack in france and now attack in germany. italy has been spared so far. we ask officials why this is. there are a variety of theories. one senior intelligence official told us italy is like a bridge
into europe for people coming from africa and the middle east. it would be a mistake for extremists to blow up the bridge. it would make it much more difficult for them to enter. another theory there is an agreement with the may habetwee isis. they allow to travel through italy and they have been told not to do anything. there is another theory that italian services who fought in the '70s and '80s. dealing with middle east terrorism and palestinian and israeli conflict for years and despite at times the impression of other outside the italians are actually quite competent and experienced and very good at countering terrorism. there is a variety of thetheori.
the italians are thankful until now they have been spared the kind of attacks that have happened elsewhere. >> ben wedeman, we will let you go to get more reporting. we have heard from the italian foreign ministry without any doubt this suspect in that berlin christmas market truck attack that killed 12 people and injured so many others, he is dead. he has been shot dead in the suburb of milan, it allaly. we will take a quick break.
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market attack, is dead. the italian minister announcing a short time ago he was -- >> without any doubt, this is the suspect. >> without any doubt. he was caught in a train station outside of milan at 3:00 in the morning. a check by police. a typical check they do for documents of an individual. rather than pulling out his documents. pulled out a.22-caliber pistmip. shot an officer who was not killed. the officer's colleagues returned fire and killing anis amri dead in milan. >> let's bring in josh rogin in washington, d.c. here's what we know about this individual. he is dead now. italian officials confirming he is dead. they have been in contact with the german officials. we don't know if they were aware he was in the country or not. italian media reporting he had a
train ticket from france to milan in his pocket when he was searched. we know this is a guy who was under special surveillance by german authorities. in six prisons in italy. he had a troubled time in europe. he was not authorized to be in europe at all. german authorities tried to deport him, but did not have the right paper work. it sounds like a lot of gaps here that show real concerning problems for authorities getting hands on guys like this. >> good morning, christine. that is right. you have two problems here. one is that each of these countries in europe has been too slow to really get up to speed with intelligence cooperation and homeland security systems and other processes that allow them to communicate basic information they collected. they have a lot of a haystack
and it is hard to find a needle in a haystack. this is one problem. in the end, you cannot surveil every suspect. you cannot keep track every person who has been through the system. i think the debate is in europe and here in the united states, how do you leverage relationships with communities in all of these countries to help you not only keep track, but be a trip-wire first warning system when people like this start to do things that indicate they may prepare for an attack that somebody says something. you have a technology problem and government problem and you have a problem with the relationships between governments and leaders in countries. europe, united states, you name it, and the communities these people live in. some countries are doing better than others. in britain, they have a program to try to get them to cooperate
on this shared effort to keep the country safe. here in the united states, we are in the earlier stage of that. we have not had that debate. it is definitely coming. i know for a fact it is being had in the trump transition team now. there's a lot of work to be done. >> all of this happening as another plot attack was foiled in australia and another plot attack foiled in germany. lots to consider as we move into the christmas holiday. we are back in a few minutes with all the latest on this breaking news. the rest of the world... fades away. so i got you something... that stands out as beautifully... as you do. le vian at jared. jared works directly with le vian designers to bring you more exclusive pieces... than any other jewelry store in the world. like the le vian ombre bracelet... featuring le vian chocolate diamonds. the one gift as unique as she is.
market attack if bettn berlin i. he was shot by police outside milan. he was asked for identity papers at 3:00 a.m. local time. he not pull out papers. he pulled out a.22-caliber and shot an officer in the shoulder and a fellow officer shot and killed him. the italian minister stayaid th is the suspect in the berlin attack. let's bring in chris burns for the latest in berlin. this manhunt has been extraordinary over the past few days. not a surprise that he would make his way to italy. this is a place where he spent time in prison. he was found in milan. apparently alone, chris. >> reporter: that's what we know so far. he was apparently alone. anis amri. according to the italian agency
he took a train from france and took it to milan to the central station and took another train outside suburb outside milan. that's where the police accosted him. where was he trying to go? obviously he was trying to find a place to hide. he spent years in italy.contact. it is believed in italy in prison over four years, that is where it is believed he was radicalize. >> chris, it is interesting they are reporting he had a ticket from france to the train station in milan on him. he went from germany, possibly to france or maybe had some other connection to evade capture. then went on to italy. he clearly seemed to have some plan. do you know the level of discussion between the german authorities and french
authorities and italian authorities and how lock step they were in the aftermath of the attack? >> reporter: miguel, very much in contact. interpol and europol. it is very intense. keep in mind, too, that between italy and germany and france, they are within the group of countries where they have open internal borders. they are not checking everybody going through the border. this is like going between states in the u.s. they are not checking passports or identification. it is easy for a guy like anis amri to slip from germany into france and france to italy as apparently he did. miguel. >> the question now, chris, is how extensive is the network? was this a case of terrorism officials talk of the loser to lion trend. where a guy is just a loser. goes in to prison and latches on
to the jihadi romantic narrative and on this brainwashed mission. how much help did he have in that? that is what we are trying to find out now. >> reporter: yes. cnn got a hold of nearly 350 pages of german intelligence papers that show he was implanted in a group led by abu allah. a hate preacher now in custody. that organization worked effectively in germany to recruit people and train them and hiking them for ten miles with backpacks. that is the training and influence that anis amri had in preparing for this attack. we heard he had said he wanted to be a suicide attacker. this was a guy and how many other anis amris could there be
out there? >> the guy turned 24 years old yesterday and now dead today. now questions from authorities about how you prevent one of these guys from wreaking havoc. >> and another foiled attack in germany. i want to bring in ben wedeman for us in rome. he knows the train administration astation and area of italy. ben, walk us through about how the italians brought this man down. >> reporter: it happened around 3:00 in the morning local time. nine hours ago. when italian police patrol routinely looking for people and asking for identification. he was outside the train station on the outside of the city of milan. when they asked this individual for his i.d., he reached into
his backpack and pulled out a.22-caliber piston and shouted akbar allah. and shot at the police officer. one was hit in the shoulder and a police officer returned fire killing him. he spent time in italian prisons mostly in the southern part of the country. it was probably during the years in prison he came to individuals who led to his radicalization. >> ben, we're looking at pictures now it appears of the train station outside of milan. it appears that anis amri never got into the station. it appears that they challenged him outside the station. >> or he had been in the station and walking some place else. >> or running from authorities. it doesn't look like a large
european train station as one might suspect. what sort of place would this be? at 3:00 a.m. in the suburbs in milan, wouldn't he stick out like a sore thumb? >> reporter: this is the working class neighborhood on the margin of milan. not a big station. what we understand from the italian press agency, he came via france by train and went to the central train station in milan and then he went to this train station. the giovani train station. he clearly was going somewhere specific. he wasn't just going to milan to the central train station. yes, he would stand out a bit like a sore thumb at 3:00 in the morning in december which is not a time there is a lot of people
out. certainly that immediately would raise suspicion of the police. according to the italian news agency, they described him as acting strangely which is one of the reasons why the police stopped him. >> ben wedeman, you will continue to report for us. don't go far away. we are watching a news conference out of germany right now. german officials are speaking to the press. let's listen in to this and see what they are saying about the coordination with italian authorities. >> translator: that they had and please understand i can't give you this information. i, of course, can't say more than mr. platten. i cannot confirm the death of anis amri. that is what italian authorities
have done. the events took place there and the information is there. i would like to thank the italian authorities. right from the beginning, we had a close trusting exchange of information and also with the foreign offices and german ones in rome and milano. i can confirm we have close exchange of information with italy, but official declaration is still to come from italy. mr. platten is the same officer. >> you are listening to the german press conference. the berlin suspect was shot dead by police near a train station near milan.
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the german officials said they have not received official confirmation from the italian authorities, they thanked them for their work. the italian minister being forthright. without any doubt, the christmas attacker in berlin is dead. >> let's go to rome now and barbie is there with us. this happened ten hours ago. under wraps. they tried to confirm they had their man, barbie. >> reporter: that is right. they say they have confirmed by digital fingerprints of the dead person this is an actual match. what they are looking at and this is why they kept it quiet. was surveillance tape. did he talk to someone in the station? he had a train ticket from france to milan. they are looking at surveillance
tape to determine if he met anyone there until they know if there were other people involved. i think the fact he was traveling alone on a public train and a big city. milan is a big city. that would undermine the idea of a hidden terrorist network he is involved with and he wasn't protected. he was out in the open. the police did not stop him because they thought he was the killer, they stopped him because he was acting suspicious at 3:00 a.m. he reached in his jacket and pulled out a gun and shot an officer who will survive. they exchanged fire and he was shot. the police want to know why he was coming to mil an. italy was a play he spent any substantial amount of time. he came in through the island of
lampados in 2011. at the height of the exodus of the arab spring. he is not part of the refugee wave from syria. he escaped the arab spring problems in tunisia in 2011. all of that has slowed down. we don't have a lot of refugees from tunisia. he wasn't repat rated. he was well known to the authorities here and well known to the authorities in germany. what they want to know is who he would meet in milan. if he had a safe house he was traveling and why he was alone. >> barbie, i want to point out to viewers, the pictures you are looking at on the right side is the train station outside of milan. the point which he was shot deadly italian police. you see italian authorities going through that scene in fine
detail to get every scrap of evidence. barbie, they want to know what he was doing there. his travels from berlin to milan were not direct. he could have gotten there faster if he went drisirect. he went to france and turin and the smaller station outside of milan. that must raise a lot of concerns about what he was doing in that particular neighborhood. >> reporter: absolutely. i think the authorities are really going to be focused on who he might have been meeting. they have all sorts of people on have a watch lists here in italy all of the time. especially in north of the country. this is not a unique situation which they had terror suspect arrests over the course of the last couple years by the dozens in this part of italy. whether or not he was affiliated with the groups is unknown.
he spent a lot of time in italy. he spent a lot of time. he was said to be radicalized in a prison in polermo. they are looking at others in the area right now. there are a lot more questions than answers. the only certainty is he is dead. whether or not he is confirmed to be the man driving the truck, we know he was. whether or not there was any win el one else involved, that is still unknown. >> one last point i would like to ask you, barbie, before we let you go, this is a guy who was not in europe legally. the whole system of borderless travel. this is exactly what governments are looking at and are concerned about. if somebody is on the radar, he was not legally in that country. he could not be deported because
of a paper work gap. basically europe is all one big backyard. >> reporter: it sure is. that is a question that politicians are struggling with. do they institute border control? the last thing they want to do is close the borders that they opened during itthe unificationf the european union. people come into italy especially because italy is the ground zero of the refugee and migrant crisis. the question is whether or not there should be some hepa fol help afforded to italy. 1,000 people come in over the summer and fall. 100 people came in overnight last night. this is the height of winter. there is no way to keep tabs on every single person that comes into the country. italy cannot do it alone. italy has long asked for help.
it is one big backyard. people move freely. that is what people like about the unified europe. that will be one of the big questions that people raise. those are questions that come up in elections. questions that come up. italy will face an election next year. these are issues. rightly so. >> barbie for us in rome. keep working the story. we will come back to you again. we are going to take a short break and come back with more. this is your daughter. and she just got this. ooh boy.
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post. let's start with ben. ben, set the stage for us here. what happened? >> reporter: about 3:00 in the morning, italian police patrol stopped a man outside the giovani train station in the suburbs of milan. a working class neighborhood. there they asked him for his identification. something not unusual at 3:00 in the mortganing in the italian c. he reached in the backpack and rather than pulling out an identification card, he pulled out a.22-caliber pistol and shot a police officer in the shoulder. italian media said he took cover behind a car and continued to sho shoot. another officer returned fire and killed him. police found on his body ticket stub that would indicate he traveled from france to germany. he went through turin.
went to the main train station in milan and then went to the train station in the suburbs. the question is why did he go to that particular train station outside of milan and who is he going to meet? >> ben wedeman in rome, thank you. >> we want to bring in josh rogin. in washington, d.c. josh, in the last couple days or hours, you have a plot foiled in germany and another plot possibly unrelated and a plot foiled in australia. concern about that one. seven arrested. two released. of the five, one egyptian born and the other four australian born. all self radicalized. it is christmas. clearly there is concern about attacks on the christmas season essentially. what is your sense of clearly good news that this individual has been taken down, but the concern across europe and across capitals and cities around the
world about christmas coming up. >> reporter: i think the alert level could not be higher. at least now there is a realization that whatever systems and processes we have need to be shored up. they need to be tightened. no more time to wait. there is also a big political story here. these are existential crisis for the governments. the overall big take away should be will the western countries continue to be a beacon of hope for thousands fleeing the war and persecution despite it may leave western society vulnerable for people with darker motives? >> or will the societies move to the right and try to protect the populous? >> exactly. >> that is a question that this country will be wrestling with which the e which the europeans will be wrestling within the days ahead. recapping the news. anis amri, the attacker in the berlin christmas market attack,
is dead. italian authorities announcing he was shot and killed by italian police at a train administration o station outside of milan. thank you to our audience here in the u.s. and around the world. >> "new day" picks up the story now. this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." this friday, december 23rd. 6:00 in the east. we begin with breaking news. search for the berlin christmas market attack suspect comes to an end near milan. police in italy say officers killed anis amri in a shootout. >> investigators say amri pulled a gun when police stopped him at a checkpoint and opened fire. we have every angle of the breaking news covered for you. starting with chris burns live from berlin. chris, what have you learned? >> reporter: good morning,
alisyn. this is what we know so far. anis amri had taken a train from france to milan to the main train station. he took another train to a suburban that is where the police checked with him for identification. instead of pulling out his documents, he pulled out a.22-caliber pistol and started firing. police shot back and killed him, but not before one officer was injured in the shoulder in the gun fight. that's where it stands right now. german and italian authorities very much in contact. at the same time, that does not mean the pressure is off over here in germany. there could be other anis amris. he was part of a network. german authorities are very much watching for that right now. back to you. >> i'll take it. ben, stay with us. always joining us is cnn terrorism analyst and editor in
chief paul cruickshank. does this come as a surprise he made it this far and how it ended? >> it is not a surprise. this individual was supported by network which would have smuggled him out of the country given him some he had spent a number of years in germany before moving to germany. presumably had a number of contact there who could help him, as well. does not seem to be an intelligence-led shootout. they just got lucky, it seems that routine patrol last night that he decided instead of handing his identity papers over to go off in a blaze of glory by attacking italian police. fortunately, the italian police were able to return fire and to take him out. this removes the threat from