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jeanne moos, cnn, new york. next hour of "cnn newsroom" starts now. good morning. i'm carol costello. thanks for joining me. house republicans challenge their own party leaders taking action that some say undermines donald trump's pledge to drain the swamp. gop lawmakers meeting behind closed doors. they vote to gut the ethsices office and put it under the control of the very members it's supposed to police. full approval is expected on this first day of the new congress. phil mattingly live on capitol hill to tell us more. hi, phil. >> hey, carol. to get some context and background. this independent entity was created in 2008 in a wake of congressional scandals. the entire point was to operate outside of the reach of lawmakers and provide recommendations after their investigations. that looks like it's about to
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change. obviously, gop lawmakers behind closed doors voting to put that independent entity again under the thumb of lawmakers. now democrats, obviously, have fired back quickly, but republicans defending it. take a listen to one of each. >> i haven't seen it running amok and i don't know -- i certainly know it's bad optics for this to be the ffrts thing for this congress to do. this was a democratic provision put in by nancy pelosi after there was corruption on both sides of the aisle. i think the american public is not -- the rating of congress is very low. this will certainly make it lower. >> my shoep what you'll see is more transparency. you'll see individuals with the opportunity to know who is accusing them, and that we will see matters resolved in a more timely manner. >> obviously, marsha blackburn voteod that proposal, was in that closed door hearing. what you are hearing from sources in that meeting in the
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room is basically lawmakers were complaining this independent entity was overzealous and going after lawmakers based on anonymous tips that is some lawmakers thought were politically motivated. it was kind of the exact description of what we heard from one of president-elect donald trump's close advisers. the same president-elect who talked about draining the swamp over and over and over. this seems to fly in the face of that. this is what kellyanne conway had to say. >> gutting it doesn't mean there won't be a mechanism. i don't want them to be given the impression there's no way for complaints to be reviewed. there's also been an overzealousness in the process over the years. we don't want people wrongly accused and mired in months if not years of ethical complaint review. >> there are republicans who are defending the move on a number of different levels. a lot like what you heard kellyanne conway say there. there is still the house ethics committee. they've always been in position
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to investigate charges. but the biggest issue now is they want to make sure that there are no such thing as overzealous investigations. that there is due process in place. complaints that the oce was not necessarily living up to those standards before this point. that said, democrats, this is an issue that's more or less put on a tee. many trying to cover up their wounds in the wake of the election. they're already having a call to talk about their responsiveness. they believe this san issue they can win on. expect them to attack immediately. >> just to be clear, this other committee that supposedly is going to investigate ethics violations, that can't -- they can't investigate anonymous tips. >> they can't investigate -- >> if you are bringing a complaint against a powerful lawmaker, you'd probably want to be anonymous. so how is that making things tougher ethically within the halls of congress? >> look, it's not. and i think anybody who would say otherwise is not necessarily being truthful for you.
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what republicans are saying in their defense right now is they are trying to find a balance. a balance they thought became skewed with this independent entity. it's worth noting the republicans who stood up in the closed door meeting and defended this proposal are republicans who at one point or another had been under investigation. obviously, they had a reason to do this at this point. when you look through the amendment text line by line by line, it's difficult to make the argument this is in any way going to increase kind of tougher ethical requirements on capitol hill. republicans, though, are going to have to defend that going forward. >> just by the way, you know, the ethics commission as it stands now did have some successes, right? representatives william jefferson, bob mai, duke cunningham. they were all investigated and convicted of bribery charges and all of them served jailtime. so it's not like it's done nothing, right? >> look, i think that's an important point to note. there have been complaints. it's worth noting there have
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been complaints on both sides of the aisle this committee was operating without respect to due process. this is a committee and independent staff and an independent operation that got results. it did what it was put in place to do back in 2008. and it was put in place for a very good reason in the wake of a very difficult time on capitol hill with a number of different scandals. this committee on several levels has worked. this committee will now no longer take the form that it did. >> phil mattingly reporting from capitol hill. this controversy swirls around the gutting of the ethics commission and what it means. another trump tweet that has nothing to do with ethics but general motors. general motors is sending mexican made models of chevy cruze to u.s. car dealers tax-free across borders. make in usa or pay big border tax. christina alesci is following this. >> this is another example of
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trump going after a company for essentially manufacturing outside of the united states and selling products back in. what he's talking about is a specific model. it's a smaller car, carol, and just to put this into context, chevy responded today in a very carefully worded statement, being careful not to offend the president but also to clarify the facts around this. there is a model of the car that is manufactured here in the united states in ohio and then another model, the hatchback version of the cruze is manufactured in mexico f. they came out with a statement saying they build one for gloeshl manoble markets with a small number sold in the u.s. this is part of a theme we keep seeing over and over again, and it's sort of a game at this point. trump attacks these companies on twitter. the companies respond by
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clarifying with facts and then unveiling or seeming to make some kind of concession to donald trump. and it becomes this big show. we had it with carrier's decision to keep jobs here in the u.s. boeing saying that it would make sure that its planes were affordable for the u.s. military. lockheed martin also commitment from the ceo saying that it would reduce the price of the f-35 fighter jets. like all of this seems to be a carefully orchestrated attempt by donald trump to show that he is making an impact. but it's almost a distraction from the real issues that face the american economy and american companies. how do we deal with these bigger companies of keeping the cost of goods low while also keeping jobs here in the u.s.? and ultimately, on a large scale, donald trump is going to have to face those issues, not on a one-off basis but on a
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policy basis. and that's what people are waiting for. >> so let's talk about this. i want you to stick around and be part of the panel. also joining me, patricia murphy for the daily beast and bob kusak, editor in chief of the hill. so i've been looking. donald trump has a partial tweet. and it seems to have to do with this ethics within the congress, that congress has just gutted. and he's written only half of it. and this is what it says. with all that congress has to work on, do they really have to make the weakening of the independent ethics watchdog as unfair as it -- and then it ends. i'm not sure what to make of that, bob. you want to take that? >> it's certainly not praising opening day of the republican congress. and i think this is very interesting because members on both sides of the aisle had been critical of this ethics watchdog. why? because they've been investigated. this ethics office was supposes to keep things confidential but
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occasionally things would get out. we got our hands on some documents on a bipartisan investigation of members of both sides of the aisle. later dismissed but it was embarrassing for those members. but this was something that then speaker pelosi put into place when she -- she is the initial one who said drain the swamp. it's interesting this half tweet is being critical of the republican congress. that could be a trend. >> i have the whole tweet now. he just tweeted out the second part. put up the whole thing. with all -- this is from the beginning. with all congress has to work on, do they really have to make the weakening of the independent ethics watchdog as unfair as it may be. their number one act and priority. focus on tax reforges health care and so many other things of far greater importance. patricia, take it away. >> donald trump here is probably channeling the inner thoughts of the republican leadership, of
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most americans, and he's also very quickly putting some distance between himself and the republican congress and saying if you do something i don't agree with, you'll know about it. so it's america. and to donald trump's point, this is literally the first action that the republican majority in the 115th congress has taken. it was done without debate. it was done without announcement. they can argue that this is a way to strengthen congressional ethics on the hill. it is not. so for this to be the very first thing that they do before congress is even in session, i think is a terrible move optically when there are ethical problems and charges that come up later. we'll all look back to this move and remind them they did this. i'm with donald trump on this one. i think that if republicans in congress are going to get a lot of blowback for this, even though there have been complaints about this office doing it in the dead of night with no debate is not the smart way to go about it. >> the tweet i thought was a
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total deflection to get the controversies away from this but then donald trump came through with a tweet. >> it's something that congress is not popular now, hasn't been for a long, long time. hasn't been popular really since after 9/11. donald trump's popularity is higher than that of the congress. but they'll have to work together on a number of those policy fronts. and any time that the party is divided and certainly they are divided on this. and without a doubt, i agree the optics here are not very good. especially on day one of the new congress. >> so going back to this gm tweet, patricia, you know, i guess go back to the carrier deal. when we're really not sure what exactly happened there, carrier in the end saved 800 jobs. but they got a lot of big tax breaks from the state of indiana. they moved to automate a lot of their plants. it's unclear how donald trump's
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interference in this helped, hurt? >> and there's been really no specific action taken by gm other than to clarify where these cars are built. when donald trump fires off tweets like this, it's clear he's channeling the voters in ohio who put him into office. however, it doesn't take into account there are a number of foreign car dealers, foreign carmakers that manufacture their cars here in the united states. bmw has a gigantic plant in south carolina. if german automakers decided to do something similar, you can see how a trade war gets off to a start very quickly. in a trump administration that would hurt the people that donald trump is trying to help. >> well, is it possible that donald trump is trying to make congress pay attention to his tweets on general motors and jobs and to steer them in the direction he would like them to go? >> yeah, i think this is the power of the job and he'll have the power of the bully pulpit.
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as far as getting legislation through on increasing tariffs, that is not something in the republican orthodoxy. i don't think legislatively we'll be seeing changes. this is a way for him to go after specific companies. and corporations across this country have to be worried they'll be the next one targeted. does that fix the big issue? no, but individually, he can claim a victory, and has. and you'll see a lot of companies being targeted by trump in 2017. >> i have to leave it there. patricia murphy and bob kusak. trump twitter to send a stern message to north korea. is it doing good or vice versa? rodney and his new business.
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president-elect trump pushes back against a rogue nation and its latest nuclear threat against the united states. north korea says it will test a rocket strong enough to strike u.s. soil. trump also took a poke at china. jessica is live outside trump tower. >> good morning, carol. trump's latest twitter tirade coming after an announcement by north korea's leader kim jong-un that his military was on the brink of test its first intercontinental ballistic missile. donald trump responding via twitter to that. his first tweet coming over last night saying, north korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the u.s. it won't happen. then donald trump honing in on china on a second tweet saying china has been taking out massive amounts of money and wealth from the u.s. in totally one-sided trade but won't help with north korea. nice.
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these were donald trump's latest forrays into foreign policy after over the new year's holiday saying he knew more than a lot of people when it came to hone i hacking. honing in on the response that the russians were involved in hacking during the election. mike pence came here earlier this morning and indirectly addressed some of donald trump's talk about foreign policy. take a listen. >> it's 2017. we are just a few weeks away from a new administration taking office. and i think the world will see that with our president-elect taking office, that america will be standing tall in the world again, engaging the world again and standing firmly for america's interests. >> and donald trump also taking to twitter in just the past few minutes talking about the latest moves in congress. he tweeted this. with all that congress has to work on, do they really have to make the weakening of the independence ethics watchdog as
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unfair as it is, may be. their number one act and priority. focus on tax reform, health care and so many other things of far greater importance. of course, donald trump talking about the action that happened late night in congress. in fact, vp-elect mike pence will be headed to capitol hill tomorrow to meet with senate republicans for their first order of business which will be repealing and replacing obamacare, moving forward with their plans. and also this morning, donald trump making an announcement as to his nomination of robert leitheiser to trade policy. lighthizer did serve in the reagan administration. and for the past few decades, he's been working as a law partner heading up an international trade law practice. carol? >> all right. jessica schneider reporting live from trump tower. the fallout of trump's tweets
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continues when it comes to his accusation of not doing enough to stop north korea. i'm talking about china. mr. trump says china isn't doing enough. china said this morning, not so fast. >> translator: china's position has been clear and consistent. we insist on denuclearizing the peninsula, maintaining its peace and stability and resolving the issue through dialogue and consultations. >> translator: china has been making great efforts in main taking regional peace and proposing an effective resolution on the north korean issue. it's been obvious to all and widely recognized. >> let's bring in david. so donald trump's tweet certainly caught china's attention. is that a good thing? >> it is. i mean, this is again, very aggressive trump approach with china. clearly being more aggressive with china than russia and north
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korea will be an immediate test for him. can the chinese rein in north korea or not? we'll have to see as soon as he takes office. >> there's this theory out there that donald trump with his tweets is just trying to throw other nations off-balance so when he becomes president of the united states, it will be easier to deal with them because there will be an indimitation factor built in. >> that's the question here. this is not a game. we're talking about a nuclear weapon on a missile. even if it doesn't reach the united states, the u.s. has over 20,000 troops based in korea. seoul, the capital and largest city in korea is only 30 miles from north korean territory. 24 million people live in seoul. there's a belief that north korea has enough artillery they could kill tens of thousands of people within minutes. and the only option to sort of stop the north korean preparation is some preemptive u.s. military strike. china doesn't want that. south korea may not want that. so again, it's foreign policy by
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twitter. maybe the intimidation -- >> some americans may be thinking it's easy. just impose more sanctions on north korea. like starve the nation. what's he going to do? >> well, there is very tough sanctions. and north korea is being more aggressive. there were 20 ballistic missile tests by north korea in 2016. the sanctions aren't working. this all comes back to china. can we work with china to contain north korea? lighthizer, the new trade representative is a china trade hawk. what's our message to china? is it we'll have a trade war with you? we'll confront you via twitter or try to work with you on north korea? the chinese are very aggressive. they are on the rise and want to push us back. >> the other factor to consider is if north korea has nothing else to lose and you choke off everything, then why wouldn't kim jong-un, because a lot of people feel he's unbalanced, just blast off his nukes? >> it could be nukes.
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could be just conventional weapons. he could kill tens of thousands of koreans in the seoul area and the northern suburbs. so, yes, we can topple that regime. we can wipe them out militarily, but it would be a huge cost. so we'll see. again, to be fair to trump, maybe this toughness -- >> americans say it won't be for us. >> there are 20,000 american troops in korea. that's larger than the number in iraq or afghanistan. they've been there decades. the korean war killed 4 million people and tens of thousands of americans. this is not a game. this could kill many people and we're also talking about nuclear weapons. this could be the -- if he continues playing down russia and the hacking, north korea could be his biggest foreign policy challenges as soon as he becomes president. >> can you predict anything down the road? i always ask these questions knowing that no one can, but -- >> i think the chinese will push back. president xi is a nationalist himself. very similar to trump in his domestic appeal in china. so average chinese will not want
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to see him back down to the united states. chinable abla believes it's wor. if china is treated with disdain, president xi will want to push back on that. >> david, thanks for stopping by. u.s. intelligence officials say when it comes to those hacks that took place during the presidential election, digital fingerprints point straight to the russian government. at the same time, a top trump adviser says russia was probably behind the hacking but others could be involved, too. cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr is here to tell us more. >> good morning. that's really the problem, isn't it? nothing or very little in intelligence is 100% slam dunk. the president, the president-elect will have to decide as he gets the information from the intelligence community how he wants to assess it. how he wants to process it and what he wants to do about it. but there are indications the intelligence community believes
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that russia indeed and vladimir putin was behind the hacking in the election season. some of the things they are looking at, officials are telling us, are, in fact, those digital fingerprints. even able to track, perhaps, the key boards that were used with the alphabet in russia to engage in this hacking activity and those hacking tools are said to be so sophisticated, they mimic the kinds that the national security agency has. that's a part of the u.s. government engages in cyberactivity. not the common run of the mill activity the u.s. believes. and finally that the dispersal, the publication of the hacked information was so widespread and such a large volume that vladimir putin would have been the only person with the authority to authorize that kind of activity. these are some of the
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indicators. we expect to learn more. as you know, president obama has ordered an investigation into all of this to be completed before he leaves office. so what remains to be seen, perhaps, when that investigation is completed in the next several days, how much of it will be declassified? how much of it will be shared with the american public? >> barbara starr, thank you. we're heading back to capitol hill for more reaction on trump slamming congress -- sort of slamming congress -- for reining in that government watchdog. we'll be right back.
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good morning. i'm carol costello. congress back in session today and already taking hits from president-elect trump. slamming the house for his plan to gut the ethics watchdog group that's supposed to police them. trump tweeting, with all that congress has to work on, do they really have to make the weakening of the independent ethics watch, do as unfair as it may be, their number one act and priority? focus on tax reform, health care and so many other things of far greater importance. >> one of the interesting things as this was all playing out over the last 12 to 15 hours, when i talk to republican aideses they thought this is overblown. we'll get by this. the media is hyperventilating, except they would have a problem if the president-elect decided to weigh in on this. and, well, the president-elect decided to weigh in on this. and that makes this a bigger issue. the first vote that the new congress will take, the 115th congress, in the
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republican-controlled house, will be taking, the president-elect has split with them on that vote. at least appears to on twitter right now. that's a problem and also brings a lot more focus on this issue that's riling both sides of the aisle on capitol hill. speaker paul ryan just put out a statement, more or less, defending the move. this is important. last night speaker paul ryan, house leadership in general, said this was not a good idea. this was not the time to make these reforms. not the way to do it behind closed doors where people wouldn't be able to see the vote before it happened. paul ryan putting out a statement. i want to read a little to you. the off, this office that is losing its top line independence, is still expects to take in complaints and of wrongdoing from the public. it will still investigate them thoroughly and independent and the outside board will still decide whether or not evidence exists to warrant a full investigation by the house ethics committee. what the speaker is doing is defending the author of the
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amendment, bob goodlatte and say even though it will no longer be completely independent will still have many of the same mechanisms in place. that's true but as we've discussed, we talk to republicans and democrats, the issue is this. there's been a lot of concerns about this office, what this office was able to do with its independence. however, this office was a very important component of oversight on capitol hill. oversight that was brought into play in 2008 in the wake of a number of different house scandals. speaker paul ryan now defending it. speaker paul ryan splitting wih the president-elect who has decided he has a problem at least with them doing this now first on the agenda. >> phil mattingly reporting live from capitol hill. we're just about an hour and a half away from the start of the first congressional session of the new year. one of the first items on the agenda as well. dismantsling obama care. currently 6.4 million people signed up for coverage in the state of kentucky alone.
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i'm sorry, including 74,000 in the state of kentucky. maybe i read that wrong. there are currently 6.4 million people signed up for coverage, including 74,000 in the state of kentucky alone. joining me to talk about this is kathy, an enrollment worker who signed of hundreds of people for obamacare in kentucky. she works there. good morning. >> hello there. >> hello there. thank you for being with me. do you think republicans will repeal obamacare? >> well, i don't feel it's like a republican or democrat issue. we need affordable health care, but hopefully they won't. they'll have to replace it with other affordable health care. >> i know that you voted for obama twice because you have a pre-existing condition and you wanted guaranteed health coverage. this time around, you voted for mr. trump, even though he
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campaigned to repeal obamacare. it seems kind of contradictory. >> well, i'm kind of independent, but i don't like to bring up politics. i kind of stay away from that because i'm a kentuckian, but what i feel when i voted for obama, i did have a pre-existing -- i was searching to make sure i had health coverage because of my pre-existing. but i would pay low premiums, high deductibles. and then when it took place, everything was working pretty good -- >> everything was working good at first but, of course, some of the premiums are very high. some of the deductibles are extremely high. so there are definitely problems. and obamacare needs to be fixed. so do you think that lawmakers should fix obamacare or repeal
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it altogether? >> i think they should tweak it because we do have to have coverage. we'd be going backward instead of forward. right now people are knowing the reason we have health care is to prevent issues of health by trying to stay more healthy. and if they go and change it, it would be good in some aspects because we need more affordable, usable health insurance. and -- >> let me ask you this question since you've enrolled hundreds of people in the state of kentucky into obamacare. what would happen if congress repealed obamacare on day one? >> i feel that they would have to have a replacement because what would happen, if you didn't have health insurance, then it
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would be like a tumbling effect because people have to have medical assistance. we have to have treatments. and it would be a huge step backwards if you didn't have health care. and we need to be preventative and wouldn't have some of the problems we have. n education. we all need education on taking care of health care and taking care of ourselves. >> kellyanne conway said one of mr. trump's ideas is to, and i want to get this right. he wants to make it easier for americans to purchase health care across state lines. and he wants people to have health savings accounts instead of like being on obamacare. would that work for the people in the state of kentucky? >> currently, we only are offered, in our area, hmos. and that's why they're not
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usable because some area hospitals don't even accept some of the insurance that's being offered. and one of them is very, very low and very affordable, but the area hospital doesn't even accept it. that's an issue there. it's an hmo. en in the other one is a well known one but it's an hmo and it's a pathway, so some area offices aren't taking that. so people would have to leave from their doctors now, obtain another doctor, and that creates another expense of, you've got to go back for testing and see what's going on. >> so just bottom line, when all is said and done, what is your biggest fear as congress prepares to repeal obamacare. >> that they discontinue it
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altogether. that's my biggest fear because everyone deserves some sort of health care because we have to have -- like i always say, like a car. you have to keep yourself maintained. you can't drive a car unless you keep it maintained. >> especially with a pre-existing condition like diabetes, for instance. and just a final question, because i have read that you voted for mr. trump and when you heard him say that he was going to repeal obamacare, you didn't quite believe that's exactly what he meant. do you still feel that way? >> i don't feel he'll dismantle it. i feel he'll have to tweak it. right now he's talking about the veterans. they deserve very wonderful care. they served our country. and everybody needs a chance to have health care. >> do you believe he means what he says when he says he wants to
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repeal obamacare? >> i feel he's going to make changes. that's what i feel. he'll make changes to tweak it and everybody will be able to, in kentucky, obtain it. because when we switched to healthcare.gov it was very stressful because they didn't know where they were going. outreach workers, we kind of guide them in the system and get them through the process because in our area, some people don't even have computers. >> from state exchanges to the federal exchanges because the republican governor came into office in the state of kentucky. i know what you're talking about. thank you for being with me. still to come -- the suspected terrorist hunt continues in turkey. what police found at the scene that could lead to the killer, next. hurry in for the best deals of the season on ford,
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more arrests in turkey as they intensify their search. two more nationals have been detained at the turkish airport. they're being held in connection with sunday's terror attack. we're now seeing the face of the man police say opened fire inside a packed nightclub on new year's eve killing 39 people. we don't know his nam yet but police have his finger prints. sara sidner is live in istanbul with more. >> good morning, carol. they have his fingerprints and several images now of him, including a video that looks like he's taking a selfie of himself, which may lead to exactly who he is, if he posted that on social media. and that is where piece got it.
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we feel they are very close to figuring out who this person is and where he is. but now we know that 16 people have been arrested, including two foreign nationals that were arrested at the airport. video from a party inside the upscale reina nightclub the moment they entered 2017. just 75 minutes later, mayhem. flashes from a gun held by a man as he begins his killing spree. first outside shooting a police officer n security guard. then he opened fire inside. 39 people are killed. 69 injured. the victims from all over the world, including the united states. >> i've been shot in the leg, man. crazy people came in shooting everything. >> reporter: william jacob raak survived a night of terror. seven of the nine people he entered the club with left with bullet wounds. raak now heading home. >> for me, i wake up in the
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united states. i eat breakfast. you guys wake up and have to think of this. it's so sad. and i really wish everybody here the best. >> the worst was yet to come for the victims' families. 24 hours after the massacre, the funerals began. this one for fathi chatma, another security guard. his mother's moans pierce the silence. their son survived this attack. >> if he was not special, hundreds of people wouldn't have bothered to show up here, he says. this is just one of the families forced to say good-bye to their young loved ones after the reina nightclub attack. there was a film producer and a fashion designer from india.
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a beautiful 19-year-old israeli citizen with a full life awaiting her. and that israeli citizen had never left israel. her parents had asked her not to go but she insisted she wanted to be with her friends to enjoy 2017 together. carol? >> sara sidner reporting live. i'll be right back. y ma'am. no burning here. try alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief. same nose. same toughness. and since he's had moderate alzheimer's disease, the same never quit attitude. that's why i asked his doctor about once-a-day namzaric. (avo) namzaric is approved for moderate to severe alzheimer's disease in patients who are taking donepezil. it may improve cognition and overall function, and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. namzaric does not change the underlying disease progression. don't take if allergic to
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expect security for donald trump's inauguration to be extra tight. "the new york times" reporting that security officials are bracing for clashes between trump supporters and his critics. a scene we saw play out over and over on the campaign trail. sometimes emotion boiled over leading to violence and arrest. on the trail, mr. trump did not seem to mind. >> honestly, can i be honest with you, it adds to the flavor. it really does. makes it more exciting.
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i mean, isn't this better than listening to a long, boring speech? >> it's all documented in the book "unprecedented, the election that changed everything." the author is cnn's own thomas blake. hi. >> hello. >> why was that such a pivotal moment when trump said that during the campaign? >> this is back on march 11th, 2016. at this point, ted cruz still has a chance to catch up with trump. but going into chicago that night, trump had to cancel this rally because of these violent demonstrations. people such as cruz thought this would turn the tide away from trump. people look at this and say, oh, my goodness, there's this violence. trump's campaign rhetoric is out of control. this can't go on. and this was just one of many miscalculations other politicians made during that
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campaign. in fact, his campaign strategist later came to believe this riot helped trump. that voters in the republican primary saw what happened. they said, well, here these leftist thugs at it again. and that that brought more people to trump's side. in the crucial primaries four days later, trump did better than expected. >> so you're saying that violence at campaign rallies can be effective tools for politicians? >> we wouldn't have thought this in the united states of america before 2016, but it certainly -- there were so many surprises, as you know. and this was one of them. after march 15th, the primaries in illinois and missouri, they went to trump and cruz's people thought, well, we could have won those if not for this riot, but
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it seemed to turn the tide in trump's favor. >> you wrote a lot about emotion. it's difficult to determine whether it covers a large segment of the population over just a portion. how do you come to your decisions on how to write about which group of people who are exhibiting these emotions and whether they reflected all of the republican party or democratic party? >> it's a great question. having attended a lot of the trump rallies during the campaign, i did see some violence, some profanity, and i should point out that that reflects only a very small percentage of the people who supported trump. nevertheless, there was a feeling at those rallies that i did not pick up on at anyone else's rally. the certain highly charged
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energy. and it turned out trump was able to use that to win this election. >> certainly did. thomas lake, thanks so much. and for more information about the book "unprecedented" visit our website, cnn.com/book. i'll be right back. there's e aleve direct therapy. a high intensity tens device that uses technology once only in doctors' offices. for deep penetrating relief at the source. aleve direct therapy. won't replace the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan. no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. and if you have more than one liberty mutual policy, you qualify for a multi-policy discount, saving you money on your car and home coverage. call for a free quote today.
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formal charges expected today against three high-flying dakota pipeline protesters. they were arrested after dropping a banner that read divest during the vikings game. u.s.bank is supposedly a big investor in that project. a tornado kills four people in houston county when a tree crashes into their home. widespread damage across much of the state. storms also killed a man in florida who drowned inside his car. a surprising find inside the cargo hold of a united airlines. an employee popping out. turns out the backage handler was trapped before it left
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charlotte, north carolina. air traffic control scrambling to i.d. this person. >> we're going to work it as a security incident until we can, i guess, get some confirmation that he is who he is even though he's in a trade dress for a ramper in charlotte. the flight crew doesn't remember seeing him or anything like that. >> united is investigating. check this out. pint-sized superhero after a chest of drawers falls, trapping his little brother. that's just painful to watch. after the fall, the quick thinking twin springs into action and tries to push the dresser. he tries to push it off. he eventually moves it far enough off his brother for the little boy to escape unharmed. >> i usually hear everything. we didn't hear a cry. didn't hear a big thud. so we woke up, looked at the camera. what's going on? are they still sleeping and we saw it was all the way down and
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they were still playing. >> the boy's mom decided to release the video as a reminder to all parents to bolt the furniture to the wall. if you love watching college football, then i probably know what you were doing yesterday. four bowl games on the television and the grand daddy of them all, the rose bowl. it was amazing, depending on your perspective. hines ward joins us. >> good morning. yes, the rose bowl game lived up to all the hype between usc and penn state. the 103rd edition was an epic battle. usc down seven with 1:30 to go when sam badarnold ties the gam up. penn state trying a late game drive. but the interception on an ill advised pass by the penn state quarterback. that sets up usc kicker matt bormeister. he already missed two field
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goals earlier but this was good. usc trojans win in the highest scoring game in rose bowl history. gary kubiak is picking his health and family over football. he announced his decision at a press conference to step away from coaching. kubiak really got emotional when thanking his wife. >> i thank my buddy -- she kept me in one piece for a long time. she let me go do what i love to do. i'm coming home. that probably scares the hell out of you. i'm coming home, but i love you. >> i can tell you, coaching is a grind. long hours. a lot of stress. go relax, chill, enjoy retirement. >> he's only 55 years old so young enough to enjoy it and
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keep his health, and that's a good thing. he must have a lovely marriage. that makes me feel really good these days, doesn't it you, hines? >> no doubt about it. thank you for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "berman and bolduan" starts right now. this is cnn breaking news. >> i'm john berman. >> i'm kate bolduan. we're start with breaking news. a major announcement from ford motors. plans to create hundreds of jobs in the united states. the company says would have otherwise moved to mexico. ford saying, though, this was not a deal that they struck with president-elect donald trump. >> but today's announcement comes just hours after the president-elect threatened ford's competitor general motors on twitter. the president-elect said general motors is sending ining mexica model of chevy

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