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go right after that temporary restraining order as soon as possible. >> you can disobey the orlando of the washington judge and then we have a real crisis. >> government is reinstating visas and is, quote, back in business as usual. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. welcome to saturday, so grateful for your company as always, i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. welcome to our viewers in the u.s. and around the world. this morning, the white house is on the defense. after a federal judge puts a nationwide stop to president trump's travel ban. it's a temporary order. >> but the state department is battling that ruling. the attorney general there says, quote, no one is above the law, not even the president, listen. >> judge robart's decision effective immediately, effective now, puts a halt to president
trump's unconstitutional and ununlawful executive order. i want to repeat that. it puts a stop to it immediately, nationwide. >> one airline told us last night the government was in the process of reinstating those visas. we do not know the status of that effort at the moment. still, major airlines now say they are boarding travelers who were previously caught in that ban. >> also today, anti-trump protests are expected in major cities for what will be the third straight weekend. thousands are expected to march in new york and washington. cities in florida as well. london and paris we're watching, too. we have a team of reporters, getting reaction from around the world. our legal experts, they're standing by as well torsion break down what this ruling means and what comes first. let's go to washington first. cnn's ryan nobles is there with reaction. ryan, what are you hearing?
>> well, victor, we believe this is just the beginning of a lengthy and bitter legal battle that the white house will take to the very end. make no mistake, the ruling from the washington judge will have a swift and immediate impact on the status of trump's immigration order. the travel ban from seven muslim majority countries. effectively, a visa could be reissued as soon as possible. now, there were some 60,000 visas that were revoked last weekend. and we don't know yet what the status of those visas for people traveling from those countries but this all stems from a temporary restraining order put in force nationwide that effectively put an end to that tla travel ban. last week, we saw chaos in the airports around the world that travelers were told they could not come into the united states. and some were going to be send
back to their home country. the attorney general who argued this case, bob ferguson said, yes, there could be more chaos because of this, but it's thought his fault it's the white house. >> because this happened at 4:00, with recent confusion, i'll tell where you there's been confusion. the president's executive order. that's what caused confusion, i'm sorry, there's no way to put it, it's keystone cops, it really is. that's not just me speaking, it's republican members of congress. that's what's caused confusion. i don't worry about the confusion. there's nothing about the judge's order. the federal government will be expected to abide by it, and they will. >> meanwhile, the white house has vowed to take legal action as soon as possible. this is what sean spicer said had to say last night, at the earliest possible time, it is the department of justice intends to file an emergency stay of this order which we believe is lawful and appropriate. the president's order is
intended to protect the homeland and he has the constitutional authority and responsibilities to protect the american people. so even though this emergency restraining order was put in place, there's still a lot of legal uncertainty, as to the future of this executive order. that's why those who could travel from the united states to these countries of which they originally are from, are being told in many cases just to stay here in the united states, because this legal battle still has to play out. the department of justice has yet to formally time that appeal and ask for that emergency stay. that could come at anytime. we're keeping a close eye on that, we'll have an update on it when we get that information, victor. >> ryan nobles in washington, thank you. >> we'll go to the jfk airport. what's happening there this morning, rachel? >> reporter: well, christi,
there's a lot of uncertainty how this will impact travelers here at jfk and around the world. cdc had a call last night at 9:00 p.m. with the airlines. according to one airport executive it said that it will be business back to use prior to this executive order. that motivated american airlines to take down their travel ban from their website. also several airlines putting out statements saying they will in fact allow people to board with valid visas. air france putting out a statement saying air france takes note of the decision of the american courts to suspend the presidential deck degree. seven countries, libya, somalia, sudan, s syria and iraq. consequently, from today, air france will accept passengers
from the country concerned on its flights to the u.s. now advocacy groups are proceeding with caution. some advocacy groups encouraging people to take advantage of this moment of uncertainty. in fact, we spoke to a lawyer here on the grounds who said they were working with two clients to try and get them flights. to take advantage of this moment. but other advocacy groups saying that they don't want to get people's hopes up, and they're just going to see how this all plays out. now, we know that the executive order impacted 60,000 people whose visas were revoked from them. we know now that the department is working with the department of homeland security to see how this stay will impact travelers and those visa. and as you pointed out, last week, we saw a massive protest here at jfk, and across the country. we'll see how today plays out, christi, victor. >> we know there are definitely protests planned in major cities
across the country. new york includes. rachel crane, thank you. >> let's bing in david cevallos and jessica stern. david, with specific elements of the president's executive order, but what judge robart ordered is quite broad? >> it certainly is. and the judge even more interestingly uses a 5th circuit case which involved the previous administration, for the proposition that immigration law should be enforced not just in his district but in a uniform manner throughout the country. and the court uses its inherent power in little district court in the state of washington to strike down the policy nationwide. but meanwhile, back east in the first circuit, the administration might decide to say that, hey, we're going to
follow this district court in another part of the country, and this is going to continue. we're going to keep getting this patchwork, as different courts decide this issue. it's something that will have to be resolved, first by the circuit court. and ultimately, very likely by the supreme court. >> so, jessica, last hour, when you were with us, you told us despite the pending appeal from the government, despite the uncertainty, you would advise people in these seven countries to get on to planes now and try to come to the u.s. why? >> yes, i would. these are people who have proven to the department of state that they are entering the u.s. for the purpose of their visa. so, it's the burden of the person who is applying for the visa, to prove, after a lot of difficult questioning and having to make sure that nothing is said that indicates any other intention than the reason for their visa, for people who are coming on a student visa, that they're only coming for that purpose. or people who are coming for the purposes of joining their
spouse. or to get married in the next few months, even, these are people who have plans, jobs, schools they're going to attend. and they need to get here because they were granted that visa and have the right to enter. >> and we need to be careful, jessica, i caught myself having this conversation and using two terms that often come with a stigma that is unfair. refugees and might rants. but as you point out, these are students, these are tourists who come to be with their significant others, we should be careful about how we discuss the people coming into from the seven countries. >> that's right. it's not only the refugees prohibited from entering with donald trump's order, it's everyone who has something other than a permanent resident status who is prohibited from coming in from the seven countries. and it affects a large number of people that are coming in for a lot of different reasons. and the refugee vetting process is very, very difficult. there are clients of mine who
have been waiting two years just for -- just the wife and child of someone from a country that's not even suspected of terrorism. and it's taken two years to join the family. so, this is not an easy vetting process for either the refugee applicants or visa entrants. >> your expectation of a time line here, do you expect we'll hear or see the appeal filed. we know it's filed electronically, they could do it at any time sometime today or tomorrow? >> things are moving very quickly. it went from an oral order related to us by world of mouth to having a statement by the white house that they will appeal. so the 9th circuit, they ask appeal to the 9th circuit, theoretically, they could hear it over the weekend. we could have action on this in the next few days. the ball is firmly in the court of the government. by the government, i mean the
white house and department of justice. >> are there any protections, jess cake, for people who essentially does what they did last weekend. they get on a plane, they have valid visas. midflight, there is potentially a stay of judge robart's temporary restraining order, and by the time they get on the ground, they're banned again. what protections, if any, are there for those people? >> well, if you are detained by the government and your freedom is restricted, you have the ability to file a habeas corpus petition challenging your constitution violations. the right to have a court be involved in the process, to make sure you are really properly being protected. and that your rights aren't being violated unlawfully. ultimately, there are protections in place if you have the ability to enter the united states. and you have a right and approved entrance into the united states.
but it's going to be tough because the government's going to need to allow lawyers to have access to people who are detained. and that was an issue throughout this week as well. but we're hoping that border protection will follow the order and will allow visa entrance into the united states without an issue. >> danny cevallos and jessica stern, thank you both. the rush this week, the disappointment, even the disgust over president trump's travel ban echoes across the nation. but this morning, around the globe, several protests overnight expected to continue throughout the day. we'll talk about that. and later cleveland clinic doctors and medical students protest the president's travel ban, calling on the clinic to cancel a fund-raiser at trump's resort in florida. ...we turn feelings... ...into jewelry. jewelry that tells her she's the best thing that's ever happened to you. in a way... ...that goes beyond words. it could be a piece jewelry designers created
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challenge a public judge in seattle to drop president trump's immigration order. >> now, following the judge's order, airlines will begin reinstating visas that were cancelled when the order took effect last weekend. with the government ruling, airlines will allow them to fly. air france say they will allow those flying from the seven countries. those coming to the u.s. with valid visas will also about allowed to travel. the white house is expected to call in the department of justice to file an emergency stay of that order, that could happen at any moment. and a senior former director for the center on global policy. haroon, if you could sit down with president trump, what would you say to him? >> if i could sit down with president trump -- i think i could sit down with steve bannon, probably that's not the question -- i would say if he actually wants to keep america
safe, he needs to keep a few things in mind. the first is what you telegraph as the president is what the rest of the world hears including our enemies. being afraid of engaging with the world and blanket bans did not convey strength of confidence. secondly, if you actually want to defeat terrorism at our borders, you need to build alliances with people. slapping people in the face as the iraqi described in the travel ban is not helpful. you can't tell people we want you to help fight with its but you're not good enough to enter our country. third, don't forget the way you win is through divide and conquer. the saber rattling with iran and the hostility with mexico creating more opportunities for friction around the world when you're focused on a singular fight isn't really helpful. those are the three things i'd say to him if i had the chance. >> what would you say to people in iran, iraq, labio libya, try
get to the jus would you advise them to get on a plane, that they're allowed to come in in at least this window of opportunity right now? >> of course, i can't issue legal advice. i don't have that specialization or training. what i would say to people around the world, that, yes, while he is the president of the united states there are a lot of people in this country who disagree with what he's doing. of course, we're talking about, it the restriction on the travel ban from the state of washington and the state of minnesota, that case -- that represents really the best of democracy. that's the whole point of a democracy and checks and balances when the executive goes too far, there's a method through protests, other forms of engagement to push back to find a policy that's more acceptable and more moral. >> let me put it this way, if you were in another country right now, and you saw this
window of opportunity to get there, would you take it? >> it's a great question. and i'll say since a lot of the people affected by this travel ban are people who have built their lives here, absolutely, yes, i would take it. if this is your home, if you have family here, a spouse, kids, parents, if you have a career, education here, you should not be cut off from that part of your life which is so much of your life. so, i would. >> so how do you think you can bring people on both sides to bring people together? how do you think unity is possible? >> that's a great question at this moment, it's challenging. my personal feeling is that donald trump represents a fundamental threat to democracy. as such, it has to be protest, engagement with politics, pushing back wherever we can, taking a stand on whatever he targets. whether lgbt communities whether people of minorities, people of
color, whether that's woman. but at the same time reach out to the people who voted for donald trump and explain to them that his policies are actually bad for them. if he alienates iraq and iran and makes it harder to have allies in war against terrorism who is going to bear that burden? who is going to be fighting those wars? whose going to be risking their lives? it's not going to be him. it's not going to be the billionaires who he's stacking his cabinet with. it's everyday americans. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> let's bring in jack kingston, a former presidential adviser. good morning. >> good morning. >> when we spoke last week, you believe there's enough of a national security risk to support the president's executive order banning people coming in from these seven countries, do you believe this morning, are you comfortable with people now coming in from these seven countries is that were listed or highlighted by
this executive order? >> well, let me make sure we do clarify that the seven nations that were identified were identified by the obama administration as ones not having thorough vetting process and thorough documentation in their own countries. and they're also countries that are known to have terrorist training camps. so the reason the obama administration designated these seven nations is not arbitrary. now, should we have -- >> let me add, as you finish this answer, for the specific reason of the visa waiver program they were highlighted. >> yeah, now, let me say in terms of something like a global interest or professional travelers, for people who are in the military, for families that are infirmed, something like a precheck, i think that certainly is nothing. as you know, the orderal allowed the department of homeland security to do those waivers but they were not quick enough and they were not clear enough with that. 60,000 people having these
visas, i think homeland security has a role in sorting those out. as you know, however, this case in the state of washington, and in minnesota, was -- that decision was one judge, whereas, the contrary decision in massachusetts was made by a collection of judges, an appe appellate court. owe if you're the supreme court, you may say the one in massachusetts really has a higher value because more than one judge made the decision. but i don't know that. and i would say that what the white house is going to do right now is appeal in the 9th circuits the washington and minnesota case. so they're going to play that one out, as i understand it. i do think, again, the department of homeland security should weigh in there and say let us clarify who gets waivers and who doesn't. moving forward beyond the 60,000 people, you still have the question about vetting the other people. so, i think that's where i think, the future of this
discussion needs t s ts to go. >> that conversation could have commenced in part because of the rebuttal we're hearing from the executive order. let me ask you about this, though, okay. there was a statement that came out from the white house, sean spicer released this, initially calling this an outrageous order. and then omitted the word "outrageous." what do you glean something that doesn't happen very often taking a word out of a statement from the white house? >> there was obviously a statement from the white house said in using that word, whoever said get it out got it out. you know, i do think a lot of this could be helped if we had his cabinet nominees picked. we didn't have a secretary of state last week. we don't have an attorney general right now. when barack obama was in his first week in office, they had 12 cabinet nominees sworn in. donald trump has had four because of democrat delays. i think it's in everybody's interest to go ahead and get the president's team in place.
when the left talks about let's get along, why not start with letting the president of the united states have his team on board. >> okay. but what about the nominees? the president has, according to "the washington post" reporting, has submitted fewer than 6% of those top-level executive positions. we're talking about 6% of the 700 leaders of these departments. only the secretary of energy, only the secretary of labor, only the secretary of interior. only the secretary of agriculture. and there are more than a dozen top positions there. so while republicans call for democrats to confirm the nominees, where are the other 94% of the president's nominee. >> well, the reason is you want to start with the boss and then the executives get their own deputies. you have to start with the president. anytime they answer a question, then the democrats ask for more
information. then they claim there's more information needed to make the decision. this is partisanship. why not put the same team in place for trump that republicans did for obama. it's only fair. i think then going forward, you can eliminate some of this confusion and you did have a better discussion and better process up front. >> well, the democrats will say they have serious questions about some of these nominees. but they've made their case. and we'll continue to have that conversation. jack kingston, former congressman from georgia. thank you. >> thank you. president trump's executive order not necessarily getting, i should say, getting a ringing engagement endorsement from the country. we'll have a look at his approval ratings, as it relates to the travel ban. after a just a few weeks in office. does your child need help with digestive balance?
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we're taking a live look at london right now. a lot of people in what looks to be a dreary day for an anti-trump immigration ban rally. that's what's under way right now. these protests are planning to march down downing street, the federal government preparing to reinstate visas, as we speak. that's the news this morning. so, again, these protests, not just in london, but in paris, also some here in the united states. we know miami, new york, are going to see some protests today as well. but what has happened overnight, is that with the ruling it's put a temporary halt on the
president's immigration ban. >> yeah. we are expecting to see demonstrations as expected in paris, sydney, jakarta, indonesia there. as well as protests coming up and down the east coast today. we've got 1:00 in washington and miami, philadelphia as well. then at 2:00, the lgbt solidarity rally and at west palm beach, 6:00 p.m. and iraq taking it personally. ben wedeman in iraq. ben on the latest news that the travel ban has opened up the way to get to the u.s. do you see it there? >> reporter: no, there's no activity, christine, in fact, most people only heard about the news when they woke up, it was probably too late to get on a flight. there are, of course, no direct flights from iraq to the united states anyway.
thousands ever people did take to the streets of baghdad however, but it was for the annual baghdad marathon. now, some of the people we did speak to about this latest twist that this week-long saga regarding the travel ban. most people said they don't understand what's going on in the united states. they find the policy to do to use some of these adjectives, confusing, ambiguous. unclear. it's just not clear what the situation would be, even if you were to get on an airplane and fly in the direction of united states. one man says, what happens, i'll arrive there, they'll throw me in jail or put me back on a plane back to iraq. so people are waiting. keep in mind, it's difficult to get an american visa. it takes quite a long time. you have to pay money. and then an air ticket is quite expensive. i think at the moment, people are just sitting, waiting, hoping that there's some sort of clarity.
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>> any moment now, we could get the justice department's response to a federal judge's ruling that blocks president trump's travel ban. >> that judge temporarily filed the order that keeps people predominantly coming from seven countries into the us. initially, the white house called the decision outrageous. but later, dialed back the language, omitting that word. saying the doj would file an emergency stay at the earliest time possible. now, u.s. customs and border protection is working to reinstate previously cancelled travel visas. and ordered airlines beginning admitting people trying to come into the u.s. from those countries to allow them to board those flight. >> let's bring in cnn corporate errol louis. errol, we'll start with you, how do you think the add straight will argue the validity of the
ban? >> well, the validity of the ban, the response is going to be worth paying attention to it. because for the injunction that's sought, you have to so irreairable harm. and a likelihood on the merit. if they're going to argue it the other way, the government has to come back and say we've got likelihood to succeed. we've got problems as far as irrepairable harm and protecting the interests. up to now, what we've heard so far, christine is them sort of saying this was a campaign promise and we're going to go ahead and do it. they've made vague claims to enhancing public safety. they're going to have to be a lot more specific. and that's what i'll be looking for with the doj response. >> kimberly, we've been seeing response from london. a lot of people walking down downing street to oppose the travel ban here. and we need to keep in mind, this isn't just a ban on refugees and migrants.
this involves anyone who has a permit residence status, business travelers, tourists. what do you make of the reaction we're seeing around the world, to this one executive order? >> well, the fact of the matter is, though, the white house keeps stressing that this is not a muslim ban. that is how it's being perceived. and even once this gets sorted out in the coming weeks, it's going to leave lasting bitterness. i've been speaking to iraqi translators who worked with the u.s. military. they talked about feeling like they've been called a traitor by being banned for this period of time. even though that situation was essentially resolve and now they're exempted from the travel ban. so the fallout from this internationally, could complicate, the white house's goals in terms of moving forward with some foreign plans. because a lot of european diplomats i'm speaking to are also saying that their populations are looking at the
u.s. right now and see the u.s.' reputation much diminished by this. >> sara, when we put that into perspective that the president has to have with other european leaders how do you think that will affect any future business? >> well, look, clearly there is backlash. the uncertainty for people who have citizenship. people on route to the united states when trump signed it, none of that should have happened. and there were a dozen contingencies that the administration clearly didn't think through. and now president trump has to clean up a policy that should have been an easy win for them. because even with the rollout of this thing being sloppy as it was, keep in mind that about half of americans still support it. so it is tempting for democrats now to fall into the same trap of mercilessly criticizing the
policy. but they risk making the same mistakes hillary clinton did, by criticizing it but not offering up solutions. because it is still supported by about half of americans. >> i think it's 47% agree with the travel ban. 53% oppose it. sarah, what is the white house going to do, i'm go to ask you the same question i asked errol, how do they argue the validity of this, and in termless of a time line, how soon are we going to hear from the white house? >> well, certainly, it's within their interests to put this as quick as possible to the unrest. and in seattle, they're going to moved forward. speaking likely on a district court on the eastern side and have that order maybe supersede the one in seattle. >> errol, let's look at the cnn/orc approval poll that came out this week. the president's been in office
essentially two weekses his approval rating, 44% approve. 53% disapprove. that's the lowest rating of any president in recent history. there you have it, president obama, it was 76% at that point. george w. bush at 58%. bill clinton at 59% at this point. what do you make of how that number will affect what he does moving forward? >> well, it's interesting, christi, the number is in part as bad for the president as it is because he hasn't wanted to move it in any other direction. i can't point to a single gesture in the last two weeks in which he decided he was going to try to make peace with some of the people who were skeptical or even hostile to him and his agenda. in fact, they've gone in the opposite direction. so, my sense is he's going to try and figure out how to govern even without popularity on his side. they will make it much, much
more difficult when it gets into negotiations with congress. there are some people who do sort of worry about their popularity numbers. you know, we can start with the 23 odd republican members of the house of representatives whose districts were won by hillary clinton and did not have trump support on one level. he's going to have to figure out what he wants to do and who if anybody he wants to bring to his side. >> and kimberly, this was a man who was a businessman, used to protecting his brand. politics doesn't fall into that category. >> i think he's going to get the message from capitol hill from republican lawmakers that we see in the past coming of days. they're hearing from their constituents who are not happy about how this is handled. the message is going to be, if you work to work with other
initiatives, you can't have a messy rollout like this. you've got to get professional. you've got to clean up your act. >> always appreciate having you with us in the conversation. thank you. more on the breaking news in just a moment. but first excitement growing for tomorrow's super bowl. andy scholes is in houston. we'll talk to him in just a moment. and my life is basketball.west, but that doesn't stop my afib from leaving me at a higher risk of stroke. that'd be devastating. i took warfarin for over 15 years. until i learned more
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nearly a thousand medical students and doctors have signed an open letter urging the cleveland clinic to cancel a fundraiser at the president's mar a largo resort. there are more than 1400. the letter also denounces the president's travel ban and reaffirms commitment to diversity. many of the signers of this document are medical student at case western reserve which is a university that partners with
the clinic. let's talk now with m.d. candidate at case western, the school of medicine there, vanessa van doran. good morning. >> good morning. >> this in part relates to a doctor, resident there at cleveland clinic, 26 years old. she was in the country with an h-1rks-b foreign workers visa, from sudan but went to saudi arabia for vacation but could not get back. after the breaking news overnight and today, what's your reaction to now this decision that effectively would allow her to come back into the u.s.? >> so i mean, that's great. we're very excited about that of course. it seems a little unclear what's next with that, if there will be any changes. but the bigger issue, even if the ban is reversed and she's able to come back, the focus of our letter was more on the cleveland clinic being affiliated with someone who would institute such a ban in
the first place. >> led me read a portion of the letter. you're willingness to hold your fundraiser at a trump resort is uncon nabl prioritization of profit over people. it is impossible for the cleveland clinic to reconcile supporting its employees and patients while simultaneously financially and publicly aiding an individual who directly harms them. that's just a couple of lines here. you also have some other demands. explain those. >> so the main demand is just for them to relocate the fundraiser. not to cancel it but to put it -- have it something that's a little bit more morally in line with the goals of the hospital. and the other demand -- i'm sorry? >> go ahead. >> and the other demands are just more about taking a stronger stance on being more active and confirming their support for their residents and employees and for just being openly opposed to this ban and the impact it's having on their patientses and their doctors. >> we reached out to the clinic
and they tell us that they've had it hat this location in palm beach before and i wonder from your perspective is hosting the event at the trump property a de facto endorsement of the policy? >> i mean, to me, i think it is. the bigger point is that if the cleveland clinic is raising money for research and for patients, that's great. if they're raising it at trump's fancy resort, having trump size fundraiser, what they're doing is the public is going to perceive that as them becoming sort of like a trump style hospital, one that's only providing care, focusing their care on white, christian, heterosexual people because trump has made it clear those are the people that he values. that definitely doesn't represent the people that i work with at the cleveland clinic. i'm sure that's not the type of hospital the cleveland clinic aspires to me. for us, they have a choice. they can be this trump style hospital or take a moral stand, actually put action behind their
words, tick stick to their mission statement of being a hospital that provides world class care for everyone and hold this fundraiser somewhere else. and that's really the question, that's what we will be asking dr. cosgrove when we contact him this weekend. >> let's talk to dr. cosgrove because hez the ceo of the cleveland clinic. their first meeting was yesterday, the president says he plans to meet with them frequently, economic cabinet. you're a member to mr. cosgrove, would you call on dr. cosgrove as the -- i guess the people who used uber who called on their c ceo to pull out. do you think he should remain a member? >> i do not think he should remain a member of the group. i understand the idea that maybe he can influence policy and try to guide things in a better direction. uber ceo pulling out, the reason he pulled out is because trump is not listening to the people on that cabinet. if you can't influence from within like that you need to
pull out and take a strong moral stance saying we are not affiliate with someone who acts like this. >> some argue the reason the uber ceo pulled out is because some of his customers were pulling out of use that app. vanessa van doran, thank you. i got to read this statement from the cleveland clinic. they gave us this. a first and foremost, we are fully committed to the safe return of our xwlou ewho was denied entry into the united states. we are incredibly proud of our highly diverse workforce and patient population, a core part of our cultured history. please know the sole purpose of our event in florida is to raise funds for important research to advance cardiovascular medicine that improves patient care. the events has been held there for years, well before the election. so that is from cleveland clinic. we've got a lot more to tell you about this morning. the next hour of "your new day" starts after a quick break.