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>> oh, and the little girl patting her mom's back. as we wait for more of these reunions, the trump administration now says it needs more time to reunite these families as the deadline looms. more on that in a second. fir first, we continue on top of the hour. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. let's get right into this massive effort to save those 12 boys trapped inside a thailand cave. this effort just got more urgent and increasingly dire. the monsoon season is here. you know that. the threat of heavy rainfall this weekend, though, hangs over these rescue efforts, and the air inside the cave, this is quite a concern after a former
thai navy seal who volunteered to help has died. his oxygen ran out while he was navigating those underwater tunnels. the governor there says the air in the cave where the boys are is still safe and that they can run around and play. rescue teams have also drilled more than 100 holes in the cave looking for an opening, but thus far, to no avail. asia correspondent jonl than miller is there on the scene, and jonathan, can you talk to us a little bit more about the holes and of the 118 potential. i mean, what -- are they just trying anything? >> i think they are, brook. yeah. look, the situation is so desperate that -- and the getting out of the caves through these dangerous semi-submerged and often completely submerged tunnels, so incredibly dangerous for these 12-year-old boys. the death of that navy seal is really focused minds here and had difficult and how dangerous that is. any alternative means of escape from that chamber is being looked at very seriously.
so far they've only managed to get down -- not far enough. it's about halfway down towards the chamber in which the boys are trapped. the items will flood, but they'll still got that option of looking for sinkholes until the rain starts. >> which is quickly in terms of the rain starting. i mean, is that days? can you give a quick timeline on that, jonathan?
they are scattered showers all the time. there's been a bit of rain here today. the really heavy rain, while we thought it was going to be later this weekend, may hit early next week. that would be ideal. >> that would be. jonathan miller, thank you so much for being there for us. let's talk more about this. butch behind rick is with us. seasoned rescue diver. butch, let's just start with -- thank you so much for coming on. i want to start with you on these 100 holes that rescuers have drilled trying to find a root to save these boys, but they say there's only 18 potential. your take on that? >> it's an incredible chance that they hit something that worked, it would be great. as you pointed out already, they're still looking at their main option as bringing them out through the water, possibly under water. >> and given the fact that a
former thai navy seal died, his oxygen ran out. i understand is can lap, right, when you are navigating these sorts of caves and tunnels. how do you feel about these boys, some of whom can't swim, attempting this. >> oshlgly we said that the option you mentally had to accept the fact that none of them could swim. we would be looking at a total group of nonswimmers. one of the difficulties for the divers other than the actual trained cave divers, they're not wearing redundant breathing system. they're going in with a single scuba tank with compressed air, and they're not able to have a secondary alternate air source. when an emergency system occurs, they don't have a backup plan for the rescuers, including the navy seals. >> if they do attempt this with the boys under water to get out of the caves, and some places
are quite dark, are the boys attached to these seals? how do they navigate the waters along side these rescuers? >> boys would actually be, as i have pointed out once before, kind of like in a pouch of a mother kangaroo. basically they would be encapsulateed in a full face mask or some sort of a mask that allows them to breathe. certainly some protective equipment, clothing, wet suits. we don't want them cutting get. our boys would basically be trained, talked to, taught, trained how to deal with the concept. they're going to be just still, and the rescuers are going to basically carry them out like the mother of a kangaroo. >> wow. bruce behind rick, thank you so much. we'll talk more as we get more
>> senator elizabeth warren. senator killibrand, and the mayor of new york city, bill de blasio, have already called for isis abolition. a leading candidate for governor of new york. actually even appallingly called this agency a terrorist organization. the american people have a right to their opinions, but these spurus attacks on ice by our political leaders must stop. he didn't answer that question. a tale of two economies now. u.s. jobs booming. businesses adding more than 213,000 jobs in june. a sign of a strong healthy
economy. this positive jobs report comes as president trump officially launches a massive trade war with china after months of escalating tensions. china, i mean, calling it the biggest trade war, their quote, in history, striking back with retaliatory tariffs. cnn -- joins uz live from the floor of that new york stock exchange to talk to us about the impact. who is most impacted here. >> well, first of all, a trade war is bad for business. period. both sides are being impacted. for one, the u.s. could be impacted. a real impact from these retaliatory tariffs from china because they're on these high value american exports. if demand drops, that means that's going to affect the american company that's here in the u.s.
for china tariffs placed on their goods, they're on these high-tech industries that china is trying to excel in, likes err aerospace, robotics, manufacturing, and cars. each side is getting dinged in this trade war. if you look at what's happening here on wall street, investors are really just shrugging it off because they saw this coming. it's a feeling of who is going to blink first. >> allison, thank you. meantime, president trump spends the week in bedminster, new jersey, back in washington d.c.
more negative headlines coming out of the protection agency. lease go to sarah westwood, and, sarah, talk to me about this report. it's coming out of politico on this study that they're saying the e.p.a. buried its a cancer study. it's a study they say they have purposely blocked from the public. tell me more. >> that's right, brook. the e.p.a. may be free of its most controversial leader, but it's not free from controversy today. current and former echl p.a. officials tell politico that the agency is suppressing a report about the dangers of inhaling formal formaldahyde vapor. it's coming at the end of the obama administration, and it links formaldahyde to illnesses like leukemia, and the officials say this report is being kept from the public as part of an ongoing effort to undermine the scientific research that the e.p.a. performs. now, an e.p.a. spokesperson denied that the reports released as being delayed intentionally. telling cnn in a statement
assessments of this type are often the result of needs for particular rulemaking and undergoing extensive intra-agency and inter-agency process. outgoing epa head scott pruitt testified before congress all it is way back in january that this study was nearing completion, and months later lawmakers were asking the e.p.a. when they were going to get to see a copy of this key study, and obviously, brook, this is coming at a very chaotic time for the e.p.a. already with pruett's resignation yesterday and uncertainty about his acting replacement, andrew wheeler. brook. flow testers are expected in london, and now the british deposit is saying that trump will largely try to avoid london altogether. the u.s. ambassador to the u.k. is actually saying that's not the case. can you tell me what the plan
is. there have been mass protests against trump taking place in london. president trump will visit oxfordshire, the birthplace of winston churchill for a black high dinner. he will visit buckinghamshire to theresa may's country estate. for the highly anticipated photo op with queen elizabeth ii he will be at windsor castle. flun of those will take place in london, but they are downplaying the fact saying that president trump is not trying to avoid confronting that's protests. brook. >> sarah westwood, thank you. president trump meantime takes a not so vailed swipe against not just one, but two republican icons slamming george h.w. bush and senator john mccain, and in the same event praising vladimir putin. also hear from the mother who
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election. >> be prepared. president putin ichb is kgb and this and that. putin is fine. he is fine. we're all fine. with me now cnn global affairs analyst max boot. max, let's take -- let's take his argument at face value. he wants to make inroads with russia, right? fine. but if you are taking a page from his deal-making mantra, toughness being one of the top rules, where is the toughness and why isn't it there? >> it's hard to find, brook. in fact, you know, if you look at his negotiating strategy with north korea which has been a total failure so far. he has been praising kim jong un to the skies in terms that are
kplooulgs completely unbecoming for an american president, much as he is now praising putin, and we have nothing but empty promises from north korea. we're not going to get anything substantial from russia. i don't think these are negotiating strategies per se. i think this is just evidence of trump's -- the fact that he likes these dictators. he feels an afint for people like putin and kim jong un who are tough and strong and as he puts it. >> well, on your empty promises note, i mean, going into this meeting with putin, there have to be concerns about what trump might promise putin. what do you think are the biggest talking points? what should maybe one be worried about? >> well, there's a lot to be worried about given that in the run-up to the summit with putin trump has been trashing our allies. even just that the montana rally on thursday he was saying where sh mucks were paying for nato. he is launching against our trade partners, and so the question is what, if anything, is he going to give away to vladimir putin. something he greatly add myers. my concern is in a there is talk
of some kind of deal whereby the u.s. would russia the illegal russia an exation of crima, and in return putin made some kind of promises about how they will back off the israeli border in syria with promise that is i think are very unlikely to be kept. >> military exercises. >> joint military exercises, and so you don't really know what trump is going to come out with after having a private audience with putin. >> right. if one will ever know, right, if it's just the two of them. attacking john mccain and bush 41. in case people missed it, roll it. >> even though we got a little surprise vote that evening, you all remember that evening.
somebody came in with a thumbs down after campaigning for years that he was going to repeal and replace. thousand points of light. i never quite got that one. what the hell is that? has anyone ever figured that one out? it was put out by a republican, wasn't it? >> bush 41 nearly 30 years ago. >> we can find mean and reward by serving higher purpose than ours. a shining purpose. the illumination of 1,000 points of light. >> so, max, the president is attacking not only two american icons, but two republican icons. >> this is disgusting, brook, and not just two republican icons, but two american war heroes, both of whom are in very poor health at the moment. this is just a sign of how deplorable donald trump truly is. the fact that he spent this
rally praising vicious dictators like putin and his negotiations with kim jong un, mocking elizabeth warren in racist terms, mocking maxine waters, i would say, in racist terms, attacking the free press, attacking his own justice department, attacking these american war heroes. the only thing that's more disgusting in all of this is the fact that all these people in the audience were applauding and the fact that 90% of -- they were laughing. they thought it was a hoot. they thought it was wonderful. the fact that 90% of republicans approved of this presidency, of this kind of behavior, that's why i'm not a republican anymore after a lifetime in the gop. i just -- i can't take it. it's -- to me it's just rep rehencible. we've got you today. you, max boot, pronounce that you are leaving the republican party. you are rooting for democrats to take over. explain more of that to me.
>> well, the point that i made in the article is that donald trump is not a conservative president. he is a white nationalist president, and he has transformed the republican party into his image. i mean, he is somebody who refers to latino immigrants as animals who are breeding and infesting. he says that african countries are -- he praises white supremacists as being very fine people. this is not the republican party i joined in the 1980s under ronald reagan. it stands for everything that i find terrible and deplorable, and so i can't support that party, and, therefore, i can't support republicans who back donald trump as almost all of them do, and that's why i'm rooting for a democratic victory in november. >> wow. you know, i was talking about your article yesterday. i had two republicans on, two anti-trump republicans on who talked about how emotional -- you know, one's political party is. it's emotional, it's permanent for them. >> of course. >> they couldn't quite go as far as you did as saying, all right, i'm rooting for the democrats as a life-long republican. i'm curious to you, how many of
your fellow conservatives have agreed with you, and how many have said that you are nuts? it's a pretty clear equation. either you are voting for democrats or you are de facto supporting donald trump. that is the choice in november. you cannot tell me that there are republicans who will hold donald trump to account because we have seen in the last year and a half that that is just not the case. that republicans are too scared of him or too supportive of him. in any case, they are not going to act as a check and balance on drt donald trump, which is what this country desperately needs, and that's why, you know, you don't have to agree with democrats on every position they take. i certainly don't. i think it's imperative for the health of our democracy that the opposition party take control of congress to act as a check on donald trump's attempts to undermine our democracy and divide our country.
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pruett's duties. he is a former coal lobbyist with close ties to the industry. unlike pruett is not a d.c. outsider. he worked on the senate environment and public works committee, and we know -- he knows the ins and outs of how washington works. he was also top aide to oklahoma senator jim inhoff, a vocal denier of climate change. when he was asked during his confirm's hearing back in november, this is what he said. "i believe man has an impact on the climate, but what is not completely understood is what that impact is. one mother made some news this week when she flat out confronted scott pruett at a restaurant. here is the moment have you to see. >> this is my son. he loves animals. he wants clear air. he wants clean water. we need somebody at the e.a.a.
that does protect our environment. somebody that believes in climate change. >> with pe now the woman you saw on the video, mom and teacher, kristen. guess you got what you wanted. scott pruett is out. that was the first goal. but, unfortunately, his policies are still in place. scott pruett, according to donald trump was doing an outstanding job. of course, what scott pruett was doing was detrimental to america and to american citizens, to our children, to the next generation. now trump has appointed andy wheeler, who is going to do the exact same thing. take apart our regulations. you know, exciting moment to see that scott pruett has resigned. i think that certainly shows that there is power in the people. there are so many people who have been working to get scott pruett out of office from the very beginning, and i was only one very, very, very small part
of putting the heat on there at the end. we have to keep it up. >> let me read for you. i don't know if you read his letter, but i read his whole resignation later earlier, and halfway through he says this. this is a letter to the president. i count it as a blessing to be serving you in any capacity. however, the unrelenting attacks on me personally, my family are unprecedented and have taken a sizable toll on all of us. your reaction to that? >> the unrelenting toll that his policies and his regulation roll-backs are taking on the american people is what we're all tired of. if you didn't want to be attacked, you shouldn't be attacking our environment. i mean, that resignation letter, i won't dwell on that for too long because scott pruett is gone, but that was the most snifelling disturbing letter, just to show that somebody that was in office had that mindset of being loyal to the president. only as opposed to serving the
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>> interview state mike pompeo is in north korea trying to nail down tangible signs that kim jong un is committed to denuclearization. he is expected to meet with the north korean leader before leaving tomorrow. zo breelts bring in the former specialist for north korean policy. this is secretary pompeo's third trip to north korea in so many
months. the fact that they haven't yet nailed down this meeting with kim jong un this would be a poor sign if pompeo doesn't get to meet with kim jong un. that would be the most negative sign i can think of quite honestly, brooke. there's been glashl speed with which things have been done since the singapore meeting almost a month ago. nothing that the north koreans promised that they would do immediately including returning the remains of american soldiers. it has not happened. if he doesn't get to any of them, it's very bad news.
on this rip roaring glashl speed on die nuclearization, joe, we know that by having the singapore summit, the trump has always elevated kim on the world stage, and that kim has this win with the seizing of the unilateral military exercises on the peninsula, does kim have all the leverage now? >> he has met now, what, she jing ping three times. trump, south korean president, twice. he is no longer the kind of character tour that we used to see him as. now he is seen as a regional leader. meanwhile, everything that has been promised by president trump, well, it hasn't happened, and it just shows you how hard this is.
we cannot approach it just because you have one meeting. things are resolved. no. we are in the states wrosh two years away from the next presidential lens e election. we know kim, he is in for life. he has to know that there will be a new u.s. president either in two years or six years, and i'm just wondering what do you think kim is thinking. should he just run out the clock? >> does kim yong you know trust trump? right now all signs are, well, show me. did will be more show me, show me, and then the clock will have run out. i mean, this really begs the question, are we okay with north korea having nuclear weapons? that really is the issue at the
end, brook. >> most immediately we'll wait to see that meeting. if it doesn't happen, that's a big signal to your point. joseph, always a pleasure. thank you so much, sur. >> coming up next, he spent 30 years in prison. every for a murder he didn't commit. now he has been set free. he joins me now live next.
>> he was convicted based upon testimony from a 15-year-old girl who said at the time that johnson was at the scene of the murder in 1988. she was oh so wrong. johnson's first wish upon being released -- >> i think i'm going to get me a home cooked meal. >> with me now the newly friedman himself, jerome johnson, also with us sean. she's the executive director of the mid-atlantic innocence project. welcome to both of you. my goodness, jerome, i know everyone asks you about food, but let's get right to the heart of this. what does freedom feel like? >> it feels wonderful. it's a long time coming. you p, praying for this day to happen, and it finally happened. >> who have you seen? what have you done? what have you eaten? >> well i had a chance to eat
corn bread. you know, some home cooked meal, you know, basically. got a chance to go see the fourth of july. >> the fireworks. did you see fireworks. when was the la time you saw fire woks? >> it's been a long time ago. it seems like a very long time that sooif seen him. i guess always when he was a young -- i was a young man. i iced to go down to see them all the time. talk about freedom in this country and freedom for you as a man. sean, to you in the innocence project. i mean, you know, i was reading about this story and how years ago the shooter confessed. he wasn't even at the scene of the crime. how were you able to help exonerate him? >> well, jerome was very lucky that his -- by the time he got to his eighth lawyer, nancy forester, he had someone who took his innocence claim really seriously. he was also lucky that the
current baltimore city state's attorney is so committed to writing wrongful convictions, and they reached out to finish the investigation that jerome himself had started from prison. we really did build on what jerome himself started. still back on hearing you say his eighth lawyer. it takes persistence and jerome, back over to you. you know, 30 years later the justice system finally worked in your favor, but have you stopped to think about the other innocent people who are sitting in prisons across this country and if so, what is your message to them? >> well, my message to them is it that, you know, if you really truly are innocent, keep fighting for your freedom. as long as you keep on fighting, eventually the truth will come out. don't ever give up. >> what is next for you? >>. >> well, i'm just going to enjoy
life, and, you know, see what happens. when i was inside i became a certified fitness trainer. that was something i loved to do. i'm sure i will probably be pursuing that. >> best of luck to you, jerome johnson, and sean arburst, thank you so much, and >> thank you so much for having us. >> you got it. now let's highlight this week's cnn hero. in the state of texas, more than 40 pisto 40% of kids who go to jail once will be back in 12 months. a chef wanted to do something about this and had an a-ha moment when he meat excited young man who just discovered his love for cooking. >> i remember consciously thinking that the system's rigged. based on choices that were made for him, not by him. the color of his skin. the part of town that he was
born into. the schools that he had access to. and i just thought it's not fair. he deserves every chance that i had. and i thought if you're not willing to do something yourself then you're being a hypocrite so put up or shut up and that was it for me. >> see how chad is putting up. go to cnn.com and nominate someone you think should be our next cnn hero. coming up, hello, love. remember the osborns? sharon osborn joins me next to talk about our all-new cnn series, "the 2000s." (vo) i was born during the winter of '77. i first met james in 5th grade. we got married after college. and had twin boys. but then one night, a truck didn't stop.
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it was the era of flip phones and blackberries, rise of reality tv, the start of the global war on terror and the election of first black president. this sunday, cnn takes you back to the first decade of the 21st century with the premier of the original series "the 2000s." this week explores some of the most popular tv shows and trends of the decades. so joining us now, sharon osbourne who with her rock star husband and two children were featured and now host of "the talk" on cbs. it is a pleasure. i look back at my 2000s fondly and i watched your show. talk to me about how it was so groundbreaking. because this was the first big, you know, whole family reality
show. won a prime time emmy. where did the idea even come from? >> it really came from a show that mtv had called "cribs." my husband and kids were on that show and it was really popular episode and people requesting it and mtv came to us and said, what else can we do with you and your kids? i'm like, well, just come in and film. we see what we get. that's how it started and initially they were only meant to be there three weeks and stayed three years. >> oh my gosh. because you always think of the end of "cribs." it is get out but it's the osbournes opening the door to the cameras and crews. it was such a hit. can you talk to me about the toll it took on your family? >> it was -- you know, i have to say it was an amazing experience. we had so much fun together.
it was, you know, the best job i'd ever had. staying home. and being filmed. i mean, you know, nothing gets better than that. but it was -- it was great because it's always great to be the first and my husband who was the celebrity, not me, not my kids. and it was great to be for him to be the first celebrity that actually let cameras into their home. and let the world see what you live like. >> do you have a favorite memory? >> all of it was just amazing. it was just an amazing ride. and it was amazing that it ended. we couldn't have kept it up any longer. you know? my husband's schedule is the fact that, you know, it was impossible and also, my kids had had enough of it. and when they said, we don't want to do it anymore, it is like, okay. that's it. it is over. >> fair. because there had been this talk of maybe a reboot of "the
osbournes." ozzy and jack are doing a show for the history channel. will we see ever see all of you ever under a roof doing something like that again? >> i don't know but i think they got pretty close to it on this episode of the show with jack and ozzie because kelly's in a lot of the episodes but not me. who knows in the future? you never say never. i learned that a long time ago. you never say never but, you know, i think the mystique has gone out of it now. it's done. >> is there anything, just last question. is there anything from the 2000s -- we mentioned flip phones and blackberries or all the tv shows and that time, do you have a favorite thing that you would like to bring back? >> no. because i like to keep moving on and i'm just really inquisitive for the future. okay. what's going to be in the
future? i don't want anything to come back. i'm glad they invented spanx in the 2000s. >> amen to that. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> do not miss the new cnn original series "2000s" this sunday night at 9:00. erica hill in the hot seat. "the lead" starts now. brooke, thank you. running out of time and possibly running out of air. "the lead" starts right now. the rescue effort in thailand turns deadly as a dozen boys and soccer coach are trapped in a submerged cage. if a former navy s.e.a.l. couldn't make it, how do the rescue teams get the kids out? and the white house remains silent. thousands of kids separated from their sparparents. how many exactly?