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happy life lived in imperfect service to a country made of ideals whose continued success is the hope of the world. and i wish all of you great adventures, good company and lives as lucky as mine. >> senator john mccain, the admiral son who chose captivity and torture rather than violate a principle of honor, the self-styled straight talking maverick. >> the truth is sometimes a hard pill to swallow. republican nominee for president, a man who did he have his opponents. >> he's an arab. no, ma'am, no ma'am, he's a decent family man. >> and demonstrate grace in loss. >> senator obama has achieved a great thing. join me in offering our next
president our good will and earnest effort. >> above all, a flawed but principled lifelong public servant. >> i tried to deserve the privilege as best i can and i've been repaid a thousand times over with adventures and good company and with the satisfaction of serving something more important than myself. and i'm so greatful. >> his iconic american journey has reached its end. >> the state of our union is in morning. john sidney mccain the third, his remarkable life coming to an end at 81 years old after being diagnosed with brain cancer last year, facing such adversities was his trademark, torture at the hands of the north vietnam ease for more than five years or grinding political kpanz or
early morning thumb's down that turned its own party on its head. his daughter meghan mccain at the senator's side when he died recently wrote, all i am is thanks to him. the task of my lifetime is to live up to his example and expectations and his love. not only the tributes and kind words from political allies but former adversardversaries, comi years to the day that his friend edward kennedy died from the same disease. about a year ago, facing the grim diagnose, i asked the senator how he wanted to be remembered. >> how do you want the american people to remember you? >> he served his country and not always right. made a lot of mistakes, made a lot of errors, but served his
country and i hope we can add honorably. >> i think that we can say honorably. >> joining us now to reflect on the life and legacy of senator mccain, his fellow republican and now senior senator from arizona jeff flake. thanks so much for joining us in this horrible weekend. you've had a close relationship with your former arizona senator. did you get a chance to say good-bye to him? >> i did, i was privileges to be there the day before he passed, to be there with family and i was so glad that i was able to be there. >> did you get to say anything or was he not in a condition to receive visitors? >> you know, the entire family was gathered around. the door was open. oak creek just dribbling by. it's an incredible wonderful scene to see the family and to see him and to express my appreciation to them and to him.
so i was just privileged to be there. >> i want to show you this headline from the "washington post" editorial board, titles their tribute to the senator, john mccain, the ir replaceable american and write mr. mccain on numerous occasions rose above party politics to pursue what he saw as national interest and ak accomplished a great deal. the country has lost an irreplaceable asset. what do you think the loss of senator mccain will mean for the senate and for the u.s.? >>. >> well, his voice was important to -- has been for years but never more important than the past year. and that's one thing i expressed to the family, the gratitude of all of us, that they took such great care of john and made sure he was able to speak in these last few months when it was so important. it's tough to have a voice like that silenced. but this voice for civility, to
put you know, the country above your party, these are things that he taught for years and never more important than the last year. >> his life, his entire life was devoted to serving the united states, including enduring more than five years of confinement and torture in a north vietnamese prisoner of war camp suffered injured he felt for the rest of his life. and here's what he said to the american red cross in 1999. war is wretched beyond description and only a food or fraud could sentimentalize its cruel reality. reality. how did you see his experience in vietnam in how it shaped his character and way he lived his life? >> well, he said many times that he grew to appreciate his country when he was serving time in another country. and he didn't fully appreciate
what he had until he served as a prisoner of war. i do think that that left an indelible mark. he could have come home and retired right after that. and have served the country so honorably, but we were fortunate to have another 30 or so years where he told us and taught us to put the country above yourself, to serve a cause greater than yourself. and that i think came from his experience in vietnam and came from what he saw, with the tragedies of war but he was a lover of freedom and wanted to spread that. and was an advocate to the end of strong american leadership. and never apologizing for america and its values, that's something that he leaves with
us. >> he was often unpredictable. let's show the moment from last summer where senator mccain entered the senate chamber late at night and cast the deciding vote to kill a bill to repeal and replace obamacare. that's a plan you voted the other way on. you talked to him on the senate floor right before that vote. what was that conversation like? >> well, yes, i did. and he -- john mccain is quintessentially arizonan, a maverick, independent. i didn't vote the same way he did that i admired him for doing what he did. and it was -- it was john through and through. he -- as i spoke to the senate at that time talked about how we needed to come together and not do things in just a partisan way. that was his biggest issue with that approach that we were taking, that it wasn't a bipartisan approach. he recognized that he was a huge institutionalist and loved the senate because the senate forces individuals and parties to come together and he wasn't seeing that. and we haven't been that kind of
institution for a while. i understood certainly why he voted the way he did. i admired him for it. >> you've been outspoken about the direction of the republican party and in your view the failures of president trump. how much did senator mccain play any sort of role or influence you in any way in the position you've taken? >> well, i've admired john mccain my entire life. i hadn't known washington or politics without him. he's left an indelible mark and putting -- putting the good of the country above your own self-interest, i think that that was his mantra and whether it's his approach to the current administration or his approach in general, i think that that's something i've certainly learned from him and we can all learn in these days. seeing the good in your opponents, that's -- the fact that george w. bush will be speaking at his funeral or he
was asked to, a person that defeated him. also barack obama, that says all that we need to know about john mccain. that his opponents love, adds mir and respect him. that's something that we can all strive for. >> notably absent from the funeral of course will be president trump. who will not be invited per senator mccain's wishes. president trump den grated mccain and his war heroism. do you think there's something about the character of senator mccain that will be all the more missed because of the man who's in the white house right now? >> well, we have certainly needed john mccain's voice over the past year and despite the circumstances we've had it. and i just -- i think that we could do with this kind of approach to politics and do well to remember john mccain and his legacy as we go forward. i know that that's what he would
like. one of my last long conversations with john for over an hour was in february of this year as we sat out on the deck and we recommend nised about the old arizona politicians that we knew and admired so much, people like like udaul, a democrat and local figure here as well, but he expressed optimism at that time that leaders would rise to the floor in future, who would put the good of the country above themselves and so i think that we ought to take that forward. >> i want to play for you a clip from senator mccain talking about you on the senate floor after you announced you would not run for re-election. let's take a listen. >> one of the great privileges of my life has been to have the opportunity to know you and serve with you. when the flake service to this country and this senate is reviewed, it will be of one of honor, of brilliance and patriotism and love of country. and i thank you and god bless you and your family.
>> what's it like to hear those words today? >> it's tough. i'm going to miss him. >> yeah. >> i've admired him like i said, my entire life, and it's tough to imagine a senate without him and politics without john mccain but we need to go on. >> senator jeff flake, thanks so much for coming in what i know is a difficult morning for you. we appreciate you sharing your thoughts and memories of the senator. >> thank you. >> coming up, more than 30 years in the u.s. senate, john mccain known as someone willing to go against his party even at the highest personal or political cost. republican senator susan collins served with mccain for 21 years and will reflect on her friend next.
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we've been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle. that's an approach that's been employed by both sides, mandating legislation from the top down without any support from the other side with all of the parliamentary maneuvers that requires, we're getting nothing done, my friends. we're getting nothing done. >> that was senator john mccain in a fiery speech on the senate floor last year. a dramatic return to his colleagues after the iconic thumb's down vote to stop the repeal of obamacare. he spent time criticizing the process republicans used and called on colleagues to change tone and behavior of the senate. there are only two other republicans who broke with the party and joined the no vote, one susan collins from maine joins us right now. senator, thanks so much for joining us on this horrible,
horrible morning. you spent more than two decades in the senate with senator mccain and willing to buck your party and work across the aisle as he tried to do. what will the senate be like without him? >> we will really be missing such an important voice for national unity. john mccain felt very strongly about virtually every issue that he tackled. but it was never based in partisanship. he didn't try to score partisan points as he worked on issues. he would work with anyone who wanted to accomplish the goal that he shared. >> you senator mur could you ski and mccain voted no last summer on that plan to repeal and replace obama care before he did the famous thumb's down, i think he talked to you and murkowski. what did you talk about? >> he did, lisa and i crossed the senate floor to where john was sitting and we knew that he
was struggling with the issue. and we sat down and started talking with him. and all of a sudden he pointed to the two of us and said, you two are right. and that's when i knew that he was going to vote no. and at that point i felt a tap on my shoulder and it was vice president pence who had been sent to lobby john and make a last ditch appeal. so i stepped aside so that they could have their conversation. but once john mccain made up his mind about something, there was no shaking him. and i knew that he would be there on the final vote. and again, it was an example of his determination to do what he thought was right. and that is a quality that marked his entire life. >> if senator mccain were here right now, i could almost hear his voice. he would be the first to point
out that he's a very flawed man, that he made a lot of mistakes, that he had a lot of characteristics he wanted to work on. one of them was -- he could lose his temper. were you ever on the receiving end of that temper? >> i think virtually anyone who worked closely with john, occasionally saw him lose his temper. he did with me on one particular issue that was before the armed services committee, when we were both sharing on it. but the wonderful thing about john is it would pass. and eventually he would apologize. he would come up and grufly on the senate floor say i realize i kind of overdid it there. but you always knew when he did
get angry about something, that it was because he sincerely believed that you were wrong on an issue. he was trying to straighten you out. so he did try to straighten me out, not successfully, on that particular issue. but over the years, we had a wonderful relationship. and he was a real mentor to me. i think this is the part of john mccain that a lot of people don't know about, that he took younger senators under his wing and in my case, he taught me so much about national security, foreign policy, even when we didn't always agree. he took me four times with him to iraq and afghanistan. i'll never forget the first trip to iraq. it was the very early stages of the war. we did a spiral landing at bagram air base. i was absolutely terrified. and he was just chatting and reached over and said to me, don't worry, susan, i remember
this so clearly now, i've been through so much. i'm going to die at home in my own bed. and i couldn't help but think of that yesterday that at least he was at his beloved sedona and with his family. >> said he couldn't be killed in a plane, he had been through five plane crashes, including being shot down by north vietnamese. the senator will be missed here in the united states but he was an international figure. he had taken the role recently of reassuring american allies amid the turbulence of the trump administration ally country such as canada and germany expressed condolences including this line from the german embassy. the hearts go out to family and friends of john mccain to the people in arizona and america whom he served add mirably. we remember him as a champion of the trans atlantic alliance and
friend of germany. that's a statement, a champion of the trans atlantic alliance, when president trump is not seen as such a champion. do you think the global order is less secure without john mccain in the world? >> he certainly led the way in his no bars comments where he made very clear that he disagreed with the direction of this administration, that he was such a strong supporter of nato, of our allies. every single year he went to conferences in munich and nova scotia to reaffirm america's commitments to our allies. and i think that was extremely important. he continued to do that. even from arizona when he was ill. and he inspired others of us also to speak out.
and that was important. his voice will be missed but his legacy in that area certainly lives on. >> what do you think is his legacy? what is the most important part of his legacy? what should people take away from the life he led? >> what the american people should know was that john mccain was a true patriot. a man who loved his country, who would do anything to advance his country, a man who believed in national unity, who put his country about himself and lived a life of self-sacrifice and who is an inspiration not only to those of us who serve now, but to future generations as well. >> and as somebody who was a friend of his, what are you going to miss most on a personal level, beyond what he represented, beyond bipartisanship and national service?
what will you miss about your friend? >> i'm going to miss the fact he was so much fun. he has had a great sense of humor. and i traveled extensively with him and saw that firsthand. i went to his ranch in sedona several years ago. i went to antarctica with him. his capacity to learn and his insatiable curiosity were extraordinary. so i'll miss that as well. frankly, i'll miss how much fun he was. and how much i learned from him. and he leaves a big hole in my heart and my condolences go out to cindy. i talked to her just about ten days ago. and i knew the end was coming. but he's irreplaceable. >> indeed. senator susan collins of maine. thanks for sharing your memories
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>> no, ma'am. no, ma'am. he's a decent family man citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about. he's not. thank you. >> joining me now is a close friend and senior adviser throughout the 2008 campaign for senator mccain, steve dupree. we just heard that now iconic moment when senator mccain pushed back against the conspiracy theories and stood up for the man he was running against. you were there with senator mccain for that exchange. tell us about it. >> it was one of the best moments of the campaign and it was a typical example of who john was. he and senator obama had sharp disagreements on policy and it was a tough campaign and they were punching and counterpunching. but john had a sense of honor and decent sigh about what campaigns should be about and he wasn't about to let that kind of
attack go unanswered. even if it was on his opponent. and i can tell you during the campaign there are a number of times when consultants and advisers suggested that john should do ads criticizing president -- then senator obama about his relationship with reverend wright and john mccain flat out refused. he said he didn't want to see ads like that, that people are talking about that his job was to win but if he couldn't win reaching out to the better angels of our nature, he would rather lose. and he did take great job in that campaign and there were folks who would want to exploit those issues. >> you had a long friendship, spanned back decades, thousands of places across the country from your days on his campaign. you've been visiting with him monthly during this time that he's been fighting cancer. tell us about what this last year has been like. >> you know, john faced his prognosis the same way he
did everything else in life, matter of fact, straightforward, incredible sense of humor and every time we visited reminding us that your time on this earth is finite, nobody gets out of here alive as he said to me. and that you should make every day count. he loved the year he had. of had some wonderful times with his family, got to see a lot of friends, did really important work right up until the very end just so john mccain. >> that moment from 2008 when the woman told senator mccain she didn't trust obama, he was an arab and he said, no, no, he's a decent family man, we just disagree. i have to say it feels like a different era watching that -- watching that clip during today's political climate, given the fact that so many people, including the president, the current president traffic in conspiracy theories and smears and lies.
what was different about senator mccain than what you see today in washington? >> john mccain really wanted to be president and i think he would have been a terrific president but didn't want it so badly that he would do things that would undermine or give people pause about their faith in the goodness of this country. and its leaders and i think we all would do well to try to harken back to that example going forward.
no doubt many of those differences remain. i urge all americans who supported me, to join me in not just congratulating him, but offering our next president our good will and earnest effort to find ways to come together. >> what was it like for him to lose on a personal level? because he obviously publicly handled it with such grace but that's not easy for people. there are -- there are folks who have come close to winning the presidency who we still see years later are struggling with it psych lodge logically, i'm not diminishing it or demeaning it, it can't be an easy thing to lose like that. what was it like for him? >> that was another remarkable attribute of john. you know, he used to tell the joke which he did repeatedly in his senate campaigns afterwards that he accepted the loss very
well and he slept like a baby. sleep two hours, wake up and cry, sleep two hours. it was one of the standard joke lines. >> i've heard that one. >> but the fact is he didn't. after that night and i was privileged to be there and give him a hug before he went out on the stage to give that speech and after he left it, the next morning he and his family were at their cabin and he spent a few days taking calls from friends. licking his wounds and then he bounced right back up and went to work in the senate. and i think frankly had even more effectiveness and statue because of that example. when we talk about it, he never wanted to look back. it was a time for change and folks were tired of eight years of republican administration and then senator obama represented a sort of look forward that he said an older gray with gray hair couldn't capture. he had no regrets and he didn't spend time in remorse about it. he just jumped up -- that was john. he was restless and went onto the next challenge and did important and great work.
so he accepted defeats in life more graciously and gracefully than almost anybody i've seen in public life. >> accepted defeat more graciously than i've seen some people accept victory. steve dupree, thank you so much for your time today. we appreciate and deepest condolences in the loss of your friend. >> thanks, jake. >> i spent 20 years on planes and trains and automobiles reporting on john mccain from the straight talk express to one of the last interviews. we'll look back at covering an american original next. david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. that's it? everybody two seconds! "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance..." through the tuition assistance program,
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public service, covering john mccain was a lot like john mccain himself. it was complicated and a lot of work and full of contradictions bell but it was fun and ultimately full of meaning. >> how are you? >> the very last time i interviewed senator mccain he was blunt. >> but, jake, every life has to end one way or another. >> it was the kind of straight talk that characterized the arizona senator's career. i first met him aboard the straight talk express in 1999. >> look at that. >> five times. >> he was an underdog republican presidential candidate. a bona fide war hero and sitting u.s. senator. when i was just a young campaign reporter, but i got to spend a lot of time with him. and i learned a lot about his contempt for the phoniness of politics and about how to handle adversity and about the importance of honoring veterans. >> thank you. i salute you.
>> i got to ride on the straight talk express when he ran in 2008. >> do you have the fire in the belly to win this? >> mccain described the politician reporter relationship as adversarial and as i learned, that's not a bad thing. what matters is how it's conducted. >> by all means, let us argue, our differences are not petty, they often involve cherished beliefs and represent our best judgment about what is right for our country and humanity. >> he fought fiercely knowing the disagreements did not necessarily mean disrespect. >> it was good fight. and we should be very proud. >> he also knew losses even of presidential proportion, were no reason for remorse. >> i won't spend a moment of the future regretting what might have been. this campaign was and will remain the great honor of my life. >> serving with honor, something the third generation naval officer knew quite well. >> i never lived a day in good times or bad that i didn't thank
god for the privilege of serving the united states of america. >> his time in service included being shot down over vietnam and held as a prisoner of war for five and a half years. >> he was tortured. >> i was on a flight over the city of hanoi. >> he was offered early released but refused so those longer held men could return home before him. years later he was still gracious and he often joked he was invincible. >> i survived many near death experiences and so i think that i'm really the most fortunate person that i've ever known or heard of. >> in 2000 i remember a turbulent plane ride -- about lent -- >> people were scared, i was scared, you were standing in the aisle holding a glass of vodka, i think and saying, they can't kill me in a plane. >> mccain seemed happy with the life he led because it was a life of service.
>> there's nothing more nobeling than serving a cause greater than one self. >> in tough times he liked to share a favorite quote. >> reminded of the words of chairman mou it's always darkest before it's totally black but -- anyway -- >> in his final days, senator john mccain seems as alight with passion and purpose as ever, spurred fellow senators to remember their mission to the public. >> we're getting nothing done, my friends, we're getting nothing done. >> two decades after i wrote my first story on the maverick, john mccain, my final question for him in an interview was the most difficult to ask. and oddly it was perhaps the easiest for him to answer. >> how do you want the american people to remember you? >> he served his country and not always right. made a lot of mistakes, made a lot of errors but served his country and i hope we could add honorably.
>> and i think we can add honorably. my panel is with me now. bill, let me start with you. it's such quintessential john mccain you ask him how do you want to be remembered and his first sentence is something nice and next three sentences are acknowledging his flaws. there just aren't a lot of politicians like that. >> there was a genuine humility with john that went with the pride and he accomplished and huge loyalty to the country obviously. we were joking about this earlier, that wonderful clip, he loved to say that it's always darkest before it turns pitch black. and he used to describe this to chairman and did he really say that? isn't that -- it's like english presumably language joke. the phrase of which makes the joke is it's always darkest before dawn, maybe they have that in chinese, i don't know. john said, i don't know, someone once -- it's funnier when you
describe it as chairman bow. >> and it was -- you captured this in your documentary and in the previous hour, when you were doing inside politics, he had such a sense of humor. >> yeah. >> and you put it so well, he took the issues seriously but didn't take himself seriously. >> absolutely. that is not easy to do, particularly in this town of egos and he was the fist to admit he had as big an ego as the next guy, probably bigger. what was bigger than that was his love of country and the desire -- deep seated desire that run through his veins and family's blood line for generations to make this country really what it should be. and that is something that we all saw and learned from him about. but i'm glad we're laughing because that is exactly what john mccain would have wanted us
to do. he was such a funny guy and made us all laugh. i walked into the green room and called him a little jerk because i thought that was an appropriate thing to do because that was what john mccain told -- called reporters. >> for people who don't know you before your era working for the obama white house, you were "time" magazine bureau chief and you and i were among a group of reporters that went to vietnam with him for the 25th anniversary fall of saigon. when you think of covering mccain, what do you remember? >> i remember his self-deprication. i covered him in the late 90s fighting tobacco companies and pushing campaign finance reform and those were issues where he was taking on his own party often and he was fearless about it but fatalistic about failing all the time. the first time i went with him on a campaign trip in the 2000 campaign it was a commercial flight to new hampshire, john mccain and me and john weaver and he ignored me the whole time and read the paper. i don't think he's going to get very far. >> always had good judgment. >> i thought this guy can't go
anywhere. and then of course that campaign was so exciting because it was so boot strapped and unlikely and he really -- he would have won i think had -- he crushed george w. bush in the 2000 and new hampshire primary. the south carolina primary was ten days later, if it had been three or four days late are he might have ended up with the nomination. >> amanda, for a younger generation of conservatives, what does mccain mean and -- i can't help but think part of the reason why there's such reverence for him today because of who's in the white house right now because they are polar opposites. >> i came to washington in 2005 and spent the majority of my career before i came to cnn working as a reporter in the senate and then as a staffer in the senate. you could not be in those buildings and not feel john mccain's presence. he was the guy when the tourists came and walked through the halls, every crammed their neck to see him. you felt him every time he
entered the room. i'm thrilled that senate minority leader chuck schumer proposed renaming the russell building the john mccain building. i hope every person who served in those buildings feels his heroic presence for years and years to come. >> it's really actually quite brilliant to do this. you get rid of dick russell's memory of giant of the senate but horrific white supremacist who blocked civil rights legislation, a democrat. you get to erase him from the democratic archives and it's a nice bipartisan moment. >> mccain would appreciate that. he was a clever tack tigs in the senate as well as being strong moral spokesman. you mentioned going to the senate -- one of the most moving e-mails and last night got a younger person who said bill, you may not remember this but you recommended me so salter for a job, mark salter, his long time chief of staff and author for a job with mccain and held that job for several years.
it was the greatest honor of my life and thank you for doing it. it wasn't the thanks to me but the fact this has gone on to other things and had a long career in washington. a longer one ahead of him but the years he spent working for mccain were special to him and that says a lot, i think. >> you mention the fact that people need to know and the fact there's a big difference to say the least between john mccain and the men currently in the white house and one of the biggest is his unwavering sense of history. one of the things i keep thinking about was after 9/11, and the senate was debating the use of force resolution. he was running around, you know, like he did like sort of as fast as he possibly could with a piece of paper. i asked, it was whatever draft it was they were working on in a bipartisan basis and i said, are you going to vote for that? he goes, yeah the golf of tonken resolution, got us into the
vietnam war without authorizizing force officially and this is exactly what's going to happen. and whatever draft it was at the time completely sunk because john mccain brought that sense of history that he lived to this current -- to that current debate. >> you talked about some of the fights he waged and one of them was the fight against torture and the bush years. one -- it's a debate that the president trump has renewed, the idea that torture should not be something that the americans do and he spoke with authority because of course he had been tortured. >> it's an extraordinary thing because it's a popular position shockingly in some ways to demonstrate how tough you are on our enemies to be willing to do anything against them and yet john mccain understood from personal experience not only
that torture was horrific and it often resulted in those being tortured making stuff up just to stop the torture that it wasn't actually a useful tool but it was un-american. even if it was effective, and he stood by that when it caused him a lot of grief. i remember you and i with him in vietnam in the spring of 2000, he recently lost his quest for the presidency and any time you try -- going to the hanoi hilton or monument where he was being shot down was celebrated by the north vietnamese, he didn't want to talk about hisself and only sacrifice and he would joke about it instead of acknowledging how gruesome it must have been. >> when he was asked about president trump then candidate trump denigrating his war service, saying i prefer people who weren't captured. he did not want an apology for himself. he would say i don't care, i could take it but candidate
trump should apologize to all of the other pows because they deserve better than that. >> i think there's a lot of talk -- was john mccain a conservative in his presidential election or not as the conservative movement has changed dramatically. we have to remember his military service shaped his world view and approach to conservative valleys and came a sense of duty, honor and service and code of conduct. that i think everyone would do well to reflect upon today. >> senator graham of course was one of his pro to jays in the senate and i want to take a listen to senator graham sharing an emotion at moment with his best friend earlier this year. >> he is loyal to his friends. he loves his country. and if he has to stand up to his party for his country, so be it. he would die for this country. i love him to death. [ applause ] >> you were the one that asked the question, dana and you know,
senator graham is not the only one that feels that way about john mccain in the senate. there are a lot of people. we're going to talk to a few, a couple other senators, one a democrat in the next hour. >> and right, that was a town hall that we did at cnn a couple of months, maybe three months into the trump presidency and point was to talk about how the republican party deals with president trump. but that moment, you're exactly right, really does show the depths of friendships that john mccain had. i think it's even fair to say they were love affairs that he had. and the men -- he was the manliest man yet unafraid to talk about how much he adored his friends. >> thanks one and all. two special tributes to john mccain tonight. the john mccain for whom the bell tolls at 9:00 p.m. eastern and dana bash is taking a special look at the life and legacy as well as john mccain, moments that made the man at 11:00 p.m. eastern time. younger lawmakers from both sides of the aisle called him a
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self-interest as he did unduring unthinkable torture refusing to accept early discharge. putting cause above politics and that's why every living u.s. president is paying tribute today. president trump seemingly setting aside differences offering deepest sympathies, hearts and prayers are with you, former president obama who defeated mccain in 2008 said in a statement, john mccain and i were members of kifrnt generations and completely different backgrounds and competed at the highest level of politics but we shared for all of our differences a fid eliminate to smern higher, the ideas of which generations of americans and immigrants alike have fought and marched and sacrificed. george w. bush who defeated mccain in 2000 in the republican primary wrote, he was a man of deep conviction and a patriot of the highest order. joining us no to remember senator mccain is his colleague
amy klobuchar. traveled all over the world including a return trip to vietnam. thanks for joining us on this difficult morning for his friends and family. you had the opportunity -- >> thanks, jake. >> to see him just a few weeks ago. tell us about that. >> what it was like. >> my husband and i saw cindy and john and he was pretty fragile but he was still his ee rasible stuff, yelling things when things came up on the tv, telling me his views on things. but there was this moment, i had brought a few of his books with me and i don't know what i thought were going to talk them through, he pointed to a sentence from one of his books and itself, nothing in life is more liberating than fight for a cause