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farms of oklahoma to the beaches of miami. this will start on sunday july 19th at 10:00 p.m. eastern and pacific. our special coverage continues now with brooke baldwin. brianna, thank you. i'm brooke baldwin and thank you for being we many on this friday afternoon. you're watching cnn. let's dive right in. dr. fauci said he hasn't been briefed -- hasn't briefed president trump on the covid-19 pandemic in nearly two months. and the top infectious disease expert said the last time he saw the president was june 2nd. and since then, look at what has happened. the number of new cases per day breaking records day after day. in records have been set in two of the last three days ending with more than 63,000 cases on thursday. we are also seeing several states setting new records every day for hospitalizations and deaths. so when president trump throws
out this number, you have to wonder where it comes from. >> we show cases 99% of which is totally harmless. >> so guess who else wonders where that number comes from. dr. fauci. this is what he said today and i quote, i'm trying to figure out where the president got that number. what i think happened is that someone told him that the general mortality is about 1%. and he interpreted therefore that 99% is not a problem when that is obviously not the case, end quote. so just so we're on the same page here, so the president of the united states is not understanding the numbers. this, while he is in florida right now, an epicenter of the spiking number of cases. so what is the president talking about there? drug trafficking, joe biden and his random claim that nobody but him remembers that abraham lincoln was a republican. oh, when he arrived in south florida, an area why masks are
mandatory, the president did not have one. you see there the local officials who greeted him with faces covered. and as we all watch this and watch states struggling with hospitals filled to capacity this world from the world health organization an oofl saying in our current situation it is unlikely we could eradicate or eliminate this virus. let's begin in florida. one of the most troubling epicenter in the country. today the state reported more than 11,000 new infections and 93 deaths. that is just shy of the single-day record in cases reported late last week. and an increase of more than 1200% since the may 4th reopening. rosa flores is live outside of jackson memorial hospital in miami. let's start with the positivity rate. what is the latest on that today? >> reporter: well, miami-dade countries just released it, brooke and it is down slightly but there is no good news here.
it is down to 28% from 33.5%. but here is the thing, the goal for the county is not to exceed 10%. well they've been over 18% for the past 14 days. like i said, there is no good news here. and the hospitals are getting tested, the infrastructure is getting tested. miami-dade countries also just released the hospitalization numbers of covid-19 patients and according to miami-dade county the number of covid-19 patients has increased in the past 14 days by 74%, icu's by 88% and ventilators by 123%. now, i want you to take a look at your screen and take a look at this curve. and then listen to governor ron desantis describing the curve here in florida. >> when you have a curve which florida has, you look at northeast and they went boom and
florida and texas we're much flatter. it means it goes on longer. >> reporter: and, brooke, we could show that curve just one more time. the governor there describing it as flatter. not so flat. exactly right. >> not so flat. rosa flores, thank you so much for being there and for reporting on all of this day in and day out out of florida. let me bring in celine grounder, when you hear rosa and the update on what is happening in florida, not such a flat curve, when dr. fauci calls out florida for reopening too quickly, just short of a statewide shutdown, what can be done to stop the surge. >> honestly, brook, i don't think there is much more than a shut down. the testing, contact tracing, isolation, work best when you have suppressed community transmission to a more controllable level but this is completely out of control. you have widespread community
transmission and i don't see any other way right now. >> you have a governor, let's be frank, that is in denial of the curve. >> that is right. and i think now we're starting to see an increase in deaths subsequent to the increase in infections and this is going to hit florida with an aging population really hard. >> we'll be talking to a disney world employee in a couple of minutes. do you think disney should be reopening tomorrow? >> i find that really concerning that they are planning to do that. you're going to have people not just from florida, but from all over the country. this is a little bit like the spring break beach scenes we saw this year where the kind of mixing you have of people from everywhere then taking that back with them, the coronavirus back with them could be very dangerous not just for florida but for other parts of the country. >> let me play you something just off other topic. dr. fauci said this this morning at an aids conference. listen to this.
>> importantly, and this is evolved over the months, because it was not clear early on, and has changed the way we think about transmission and control, in that about 40% to 45% of individuals infected are asymptomatic. >> doctor, i want to ask you the 40% to 45% of individuals infected, not showing symptoms. how then do you screen people by temperature before coming into work or into schools should they reopen in the fall? how do you do that? >> i mean, it is not really possible. you'll end up missing about half of the people by using those temperature screens and symptom screens and that is assuming people don't self-medicate with ibuprofen on tylenol and honest about reporting symptoms so i think you miss a huge number of people who are potentially infectious with that kind of approach. >> are you surprised by that, 40
to 45 people reporting but not showing symptoms. i know it is still wild west when it comes to coronavirus, still a lot of people not showing symptoms. >> that is sort of the ballpark. we were thinking between 30% and 50%. and that is smack in the middle. i think we're honing in on what that range is. but i think this is one reason scaling up testing is really important. because that is going to be more sensitive and accurate than the symptom screening alone. >> there are deaths rising in ten states. including in states we've been talking about like florida, like texas, but also in mississippi, in places like nevada. what hot spots are you watching really closely? >> well, i think in addition to what is happening in those really hard hit states and one thing i'm concerned about for every state in the long run is what does this mean for parts of the country in the northeast that were hit hard before, that have instituted many of the public health measures we've been talking about, the testing, contact tracing, isolation, it is only a matter of time until
somebody with coronavirus travels to those places if they haven't already and reintroduces the virus into the community. so then the question is those measures that we've put in place, are those enough to protect us? because that is really going to be predictive for what will happen in the rest of the country, too. >> so you're saying let's use new york city as an example, it was an the epicenter months ago and now talking about ho hospitalizations at 0% and it could create the issue all over. is that what you're saying. >> right. that is exactly what i'm saying. so are the public health measures we've put in place enough to protect us from another big spike or not and that remains to be seen. we're not sure yet. >> what about the health system. you have worried about health systems being overwhelmed across the country and not only now by fall into winter, is that also because it will be a bit of a
doub double-whammy with the new season. >> the rest of the country make be on the first wave but regardless you'll see an overlapping of coronavirus and flu and it is going to be impossible to distinguish who is who, especially when people first come into the hospital. so you have to treat everybody as if they've covid and that is all of the personal protective equipment, how we put them in different rooms, the staffing, all of that. before, when we had this really big spike in new york city, we could bring in traveling nurses from texas, some of whom are still there even though texas is being hit hard. but if the entire country is dealing with those kind of numbers all at once, we'll have shortages of everything, the ppe, the people, the ventilators, everything. >> and last quick question on flu versus coronavirus because having had coronavirus and the flu, in the beginning, i was lucky i didn't end up in the hospital with real issues with my lungs. but it was nasty. and i could understand at first you may be confused. is it the flu or coronavirus and if somebody is admitted to the
hospital and you put a flu patient who is a coronavirus in with flu patients then you have an issue. >> yeah, that is right. so that is why we basically have to put each of the patients in their own room. at least in the beginning. until we could sort out who has coronavirus, who has the flu and who has both. so that is a really big logistical nightmare. >> dr. saline grounder, i'll leave it. thank you for all of your answers. there are so many questions. i appreciate it. we've talked about florida deteriorating, not stopping disney world from reopening. how do workers think about is that. and soccer season returning at disney after nine players tested positive and i'll talk to a player. and president trump is looking at pardoning his long time friend and convicted criminal roger stone. we have those details ahead.
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as cases surge in florida, disney world is welcoming back visitors. two of the theme parks will reopen tomorrow amid the coronavirus pandemic ravaging much of the state. and while disney is reopening in phases and implementing several new health and safety measures which include show cancellations and no selfies with mickey or mini, visiting is one of the highest risk activities you could do right now. so let's go straight there. joining me, an el paso of animal kingdom, jessica wella. thank you for joining mess. >> no, thank you. it is amazing. >> listen, we know the story in
florida. cases are surging, you've been back for the last couple of weeks and tomorrow you officially go back on the job. do you feel safe, first question? >> um, honestly, i do. there is a lot of procedures that disney has added and honestly i feel safer going to disney than i do going to the grocery store. >> that is interesting. and as we talk, i want to show some pictures to your point of what it looks like now in animal kingdom. and check this out. we could see flexy glass installed to help separate people waiting. there are signs like this one all over the park. even disney masks being sold. talk us through how your job has changed just to keep you safe and all of the guests. >> so, a lot has changed honestly. so the guests, as you know, the guests at all times should be wearing masks. unless they are sitting down eating or drinking, and the same
applies for the cast members. so even if a guest doesn't see me, i'm still wearing my mask. we have extensive cleaning procedures. it's a lot of procedures. i, you know -- >> how do you know that. you see them with your own two eyes, you know how thorough this is? >> i work in the attractions areas. so the vehicles are tip top shape, we have chemicals that we wipe down all of the seats. yes, i know some areas, they've added plexiglass on to the physical vehicles to add that extra barrier as well as having a mask. they have the relaxing stations where guests are able to sit
down and socially distance and have their mask removed, that way it helps with the heat and everything like that. if they want to have a little nibble and eat, they're more than welcome to. >> let me jump in and ask you, you're giving great examples. so for people who love disney, want to go no matter what, other than not getting the selfie with mickey, what do you think is the biggest change that you just want to brace people for. >> the biggest change is honestly just knowing that you have to wear a mask at all times, honestly. the lines are going to be a lot shorter. in the sense of there is not as many guests, physically going into the park, so just the masks. just getting used to wearing a mask all of the time is the biggest change. >> now, i hear you from disney world. mask not optional. jessica, thank you so much.
enjoy. stay healthy. good to have you on. coming up next, i'll talk to a major league soccer player who is at disney for the big restarting tournament. two teams have dropped out due to positive covid cases. does he feel safe? let's ask him. and president's handling of the pandemic the lowest approval rating to date. we have those details ahead. under one account. i was able to lower my monthly payments and feel like i'm well on my way to becoming debt free. and i have sofi to thank for that.
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major league sock ser back on the pitch with a tournament in orlando. all of the team were supposed to be there but two withdrawal because of players testing positive. a goalie from d.c. united, earl, welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> i know you were supposed to be playing today. you're game was moved to sunday because the team you were playing delayed their arrival to orlando because of covid. just how are you handling all of the challenges, all of the uncertainty. >> there is a lot of uncertainty and i think that comes with the territory of a global pandemic.
but as a team, we've discussed there is going to be hiccups in the road and be able to roll with the punches and when time comes to play we'll be ready. >> i appreciate the confidence. this is one mighty hiccup. how is the league doing on this? do you feel safe? >> yeah, it's pretty unprecedented times. so i think the league is doing their best to put in protocols and protect our health. and for me there is a always a little bit of fear involved, being a global pandemic things are difficult but i do feel safe and i'm prepared to play. >> right on. and i want to ask you about the fight for social justice and i see part of your shirt. what does it say? >> it said black and proud. i'll sit up. >> i see it. here you are. you're on the front lines as a founding member of black players for change. you and the players made quite a statement before the opening game of this mls tournament.
talk about why you did it and what is the message you want to send? >> yeah, so i think it is wosht for us to use our vehicle through soccer to make a statement in support of the black lives matter movement and the point of it for us was to continue to fight for social justice and racial equality and to be able to use our platform in the manner we did with organizing over 170 black players in a short period of time and organizing our group as a whole and creating our organization, it was cool to see that come to fruition. >> we saw the coach of montreal henri, from france, here he is, taking a knee for 8:46 at the start of his game yesterday. what did you think of that? >> that was really powerful for me. so obviously he's from france and he has had experiences here in america since he came over as
a players and now as a coach and he's got tone share some of the things with our organization as well. and i think he's been exposed to the black experience in america and for him to understand what it is that we go through and to participate in the -- some type of protest and acknowledgment which a powerful statement with someone from a global reach. >> earl edwards jr., thank you for using your voice and platform. good to have you on. >> thank you. more americans than ever before say they do not approve of the president's response to the pandemic. and while he won't talk to dr. fauci, he said he is looking at a pardon for his long-term time friend roger stone. let's talk about that with michael smerconish, next. ♪
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roger stone is a convicted kraim asking a federal judge not to send him to prison what he called a hail mary appeal. stone said the coronavirus poses a threat to him and the chance he has at avoiding jail is a pardon. half a dozen people close to the president expect him to do precisely that. pardon stone. the question is when. this morning on his way to florida the president said he is thinking on it. >> i'll be looking at it. i think roger stone was very unfairly treated as were many people and in the meantime comey and all of these guys are walking around, including biden and obama because we caught them
spying on my campaign. who would have believed that one. >> cnn's michael smerconish is with me now. it is a minute since i've got to have you on so it is great to see you. >> you too. >> thank you. and as far as roger stone is concerned, do you anticipate the president will pardon him and if so, how do you think this plays politically. >> i think it is a function of when, not if. i don't know if it is today or tomorrow. maybe it is november 4, the day after the election. maybe it is january 19, the day before the inauguration. i never bought into the idea that they were on the outs. remember, this relationship has been an up and down relationship and through it all i've interviewed roger even when he claimed they were on the outs. i never bought into it. i thought it was a shtick. this is a 40 year relationship between the two. and if the president's numbers were stronger than they are right now, it would already have
happened. >> okay. we'll see what he ends up doing. i want to ask you about the new poll numbers. they show overwhelming disapproval of the president's handling of both the coronavirus pandemic and the racial crisis in this country. but this is how "the washington post" frames the president's mindset. this is according to people talking to him in recent days. quote, the president has cast himself in the starring role of the blameless victim of a deadly pandemic of a stalled economy, of deep-seated racial unrest all of which happened to him rather than the country. happened to him rather than the country, just repeating that. is it possible to sell the whole blameless victim bit to a country deciding whether or not to re-elect you? >> to his fans, he's resolute. to others he's stubborn. he's on the wrong side of both of the issues. continuing to refer to black lives matter as a hate group and his refusal even to wear a mask. the pandemic, not because joe biden wants it to be, but it is
helping joe biden. it is helping joe biden because the president, i think is his own worst enemy in dealing thus far with the crises and it gives biden reason not to be out in the public constantly and with a microphone on him. so joe biden thus far doesn't offer what hillary clinton offered the president, which was someone that the president could pillar, at least not successfully. so the president needs to change his approach. >> the president continues to critique joe biden. and he's already doing it down in florida. routinely questioning his fitness for office and last night on this interview on fox news trump talks about his own. here is the clip. >> i actually took one when i very recently, when i was -- the radical left was saying is he all there, is he all there and i proved i was all there because i aced it. i aced the test. i took it at walter reed medical
center. in front of doctors and they were very surprised. they said that is an unbelievable thing. rarely does anybody do what you just did. >> aced it. do we have an idea what aced it means, michael? >> he's laying a predicate. he's laying a predicate so if there is a gaf by the former vice president he could continue to question joe biden's fitness and competency. it is a risky proposition for this reason. there will be three debates in the fall. that bar will be lowered. every time the president questions joe biden's fitness, such that if biden escapes from those debates without having made a mistake, people having heard all of the charges about his fitness will say, well, geez, he did pretty well, didn't he. >> how fascinating will the debates be. i could see you with your yellow notepad and lists that you make. i remember it all from four
years ago. we'll talk again then. here is my last question. this is all about you. you are kind of a big deal to be having this documentary premiering tomorrow night on the 30-year career in talk radio and television so let me play a clip. >> i am so fortunate. my political, my media work, any interests, they've given my a rich life. i met ronald reagan as an 18-year-old. i once had a 7 hour dinner with fidel castro at his house. i got to take former pakistani president to vote with me at my suburban philadelphia polling place. i confirmed those with led zeppelin with a demand that they unite. it didn't go so well. and work for and befriended pennsylvania's longest serving senator arlen specter.
i drank champagne from the stanley cup. and i have a photo by named arson nelson changes. >> that is the coolest career. i know the film is called things i wish i knew before i started talking. fiddestel castro for seven hours at his house. we'll have to have a conversation about that. but is there anything in your career that you could point to and look back and say that explains our current moment in our politics? >> no doubt about it. i'm going to reminisce tomorrow night and thank you for referencing it. but there is a serious message. and the serious message is about the negative impact that a polarized media has had on our political discourse. the 30 years i've been doing what i've been doing is the exact same time period in which the nation has been driven into a partisan ditch and divide. and i don't see correlation, i see causation between the tone in the media and what goes on in
washington and state capitals so i hope you'll have a couple of laughs and reminisce with me but stick around for the serious message at the end. >> we will and thank you. congratulations, michael. join him tomorrow night as cnn presents "things i wish i knew before i started talking" at 10:00 eastern here on cnn. calls to boycott latin food giant goya gaining steam after the ceo praised president trump while at white house and that ceo is not apologizing. that's next. ...or this.... ...or even this... ...we've seen and covered it. so, get a quote today. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
a big backlash a came to boycott goya foods after the ceo praised the president. >> we're all truly blessed at the same time to have a leader like president trump who is a builder and that is what my grandfather did. he came to this country to build, to grow, to prosper. and so we have an incredible builder and we pray, we pray for our leadership, our president, and we pray for our country that we will continue to prosper and to grow. >> well, as a result of that moment, today #goya away is trending on twitter. democrats getting in on the campaign. julian castro, america should think twice before buying their products and this from alexandria ocasio-cortez, it is the sound of me googling how to make your own adobo. and ana navarro, you are never once to mince words and you say he is acting as a prop for a guy who puts brown children in cages. tell me more. >> that is right. first of all, i think groya is great story but this strikes at a wound. this is pouring salt in the wound of a latino community that is his consumer base. that is most of his customers. and it is a most latinos, not all, here in miami, not all, but most latinos feel that we have been harassed, discriminated, made a target of division, made a target of demonization by this administration. brown children have been put in cages. the deaths of puerto ricans have been denied. he threw paper towels at them. he called mexicans criminals and rapist and said people from el salvador were coming from s
holes. so it is one things after the other. so when you're consumer base is that latino community, that the majority feel accosted and harassed and discriminated by trump and you go and call this and say god bless this guy and bless us for having this builder. builder of what? of a wall? now the same token, i will tell you, i believe in freedom of expression. i believe in political freedom. i think mr. unanu has all of the right in the world to his political preference and his political expression. >> let me jump in. hold that thought. because i want to get that in. that is what he said because he's not backing down, this is what he said this morning on fox news. >> it is suppression of speech. you're allowed to talk good or to praise one president but you're not allowed, whether i kaz called to be part of the commission, to aid in economic
and educational prosperity, and you make a positive comment, all of a sudden that is not acceptable. you were called by the president of the united states and you're going to say, no, i'm sorry, i'm busy, no thank you. and i didn't say that to the obamas or president trump. >> he said he was invited by mrs. obama to come to the obama white house and making the point, you heard him it is president trump now. does he have a point? >> not all latinos are the same and not all presidents are the same. i think he could have said that about george w. bush or george herbert walker bush or barack obama or bill clinton, i don't remember them calling migrants coming from the western hemisphere calling them invaders or remember the demonization of migrants the same way. so it is not apples-to-apples. it is not tomato to tomato. these are very different things. one thing, in the same -- people say he has a right to his
opinion. and i believe that. i strongly believe that. but if you believe he's got a right to his opinion and to politically express himself, you have to believe that his consumers have the same exact right. so do not expect a community that feels attacked by donald trump constantly and that is your loyal consumer base not to react and feel hurt when they see you praising that person. actions have consequences. he's free to take those actions. those actions have consequences. and he's just got to accept them. one thing i want to say, i've seen in social distancimedia th away goya products. there is a lot of food uncertain ty and kids out ever school not getting the meal. if you don't want to use products, you have every right but please donate them to a food
bank, donate them to a church or donate them to a homeless shelter. >> give it to someone who is in need. yeah. >> and listen, there is a ton of alternative brands, okay. goya might be the biggest fish in the pond, but it is not the only fish in the pond. and so if anybody wants -- we are all free to do with our frijoles as we wish. >> ana navarro, thank you. the latest development in the ongoing backlash against the video app tik tok, amazon has instructed all employees to immediately delete the app from their phones citing security risks according to a person familiar with the matter. this follows claims from the trump administration that the app could undermine national security and earlier this week the white house said it is considering banning the app entirely. cnn tech reporter brian fung is with me now. and brian, what is tik tok saying? >> reporter: well, tik tok is
claiming to be confused. it is saying that it doesn't understand the reasons why amazon is making its decision but it is asking for a dialogue with the company to and of course the big fear here that many have identified is the possibility that tiktok's data could end up in the hands of the chinese government. tiktok is of course owned by bikedance, which is a chinese company. though tiktok says it stores the data in u.s. servers based in the united states. but a number of critics are worried that that data could somehow be transferred to beijing based on the national security laws that china has over companies like bikedance. the type of data that's at stake here. your unique device identifiers, all of that information could potentially be a risk to security if it falls into the wrong hands.
for example, if it reveals the locations of troops or information about the behavior of intelligence officials, and all of that could -- has led the u.s. army and navy to ban tiktok from the military. and some policymakers like senator josh holly have recommended that the u.s. ban tiktok from people entirely. it's a much more complicated situation than tiktok's critics make it sound. of course, a lot of the same information that tiktok collects is also collected by a u.s. company such as facebook, google, and twitter. and of course that information would also be potentially threatening to national security if chinese hackers weren't able to get access to that as well. and cybersecurity experts say this really just ultimately shows how the u.s. lacks comprehensive national privacy and data protections for all americans. brooke? >> it does. we've talked so much about that.
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this just in. an estimated 8,000 inmates in california are being released early because of the coronavirus pandemic. they could be released by the end of august. the california department of corrections and rehabilitation already reduced the prison population by 10,000 as a way to reduce transmission within its facilities. so for more on the pandemic, let's check in with my colleagues across the country. >> reporter: i'm evan mcmorris-santoro in arizona. restaurants like these in scottsdale are open again today but under strict new rules. a 50% cap on indoor dining. the governor says the new rule is enough to help bend the curve of the pandemic here. but public health officials worry it's not enough. >> reporter: the governor in
california is facing mounting pressure after outbreaks in the state prison system. at san quentin state prison, that has become a major hotspot. seven prisoners have died from coronavirus. san quentin so far has released 500 detainees early. but the family says the prison needs to do more to contain the outbreak. >> reporter: high school football is as important to the state of texas as any state in the country. but there are even more concerns that football won't be played there at all this fall after the dallas school superintendent told msnbc he has serious doubts about playing a contact sport with coronavirus cases on the rise. one had 37,000 fans. they pushed back on his comments telling local media that at this time football will go on. just yesterday new mexico announced that it has already
postponed its fall contact sports. we'll see if texas is forced to follow suit. >> thanks to all of you. and thank you so much for being with me on this friday. have a wonderful weekend. stay right here. "the lead" starts right now. and welcome to "the lead" on this friday. i'm pamela brown in today for jake tapper. president trump right now is visiting the epicenter of coronavirus in the united states. florida. the presidential visit is not at all related to the pandemic as florida continues to set all the wrong records with new cases skyrocketing. more than 1,200% since may 4th when the state began re-opening. despite this, president trump and the nation's top infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci, has not spoken in more than a month. even as fauci is warning the u.s. is in the middle of a, quote, very serious problem. and we have just learned that it's now new york state sending help to