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nonviolent activist and was a spokesperson for justice in america. he will be deeply missed. perfect words to leave you on. john lewis, dead at the age of 80. congressman john lewis a giant in the history in the civil rights movement has died at the age of 80. >> he always believed in the power of love and not hate in his legacy would grow, and grow and grow. >> he didn't care about himself. he didn't care about politics or fame or fortune. he cared about making a difference. so he lived a purpose-driven life. >> we must never ever give up. we must be brave and courageous.
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good morning. i'm victor blackwell. you're watching "new day." it's saturday, july 18th. >> i'm abby philip. he was an icon, a hero, a paramount fighter and figure of civil rights. this morning the nation, really the world, is celebrating the life and mourning the loss of congressman john lewis. >> and at time when this nation is at a moment of reckoning, his life is a lesson for us all. he was the last survivor of the back civil rights activists, the big six, lead by reverend martin luther king jr. he died last night after a six month battle with pancreatic cancer. even during that battle he remained a lion crying out for racial justice even in his final weeks. >> there are so many tributes coming in. we'll start with one from former president barack obama who wrote
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"not many of us get to live to see our legacy play out in such a meaningful, remarkable way. john lewis did. thanks to him, we have our marching orders." here is martin savidge. >> reporter: throughout his life, john lewis stood for people's rights. born on an alabama cotton farm into a segregated america. he lived to see an african-american elected president, he would be a major part of making it happen. >> tonight we dwath -- gather here in this magnificent stadium in denver because we still have a dream. we still have a dream. >> reporter: lewis, growing up, was angered by the unfairness of the jim crow south. eventually lewis would become one of the most prominent leaders. as a student he organized sit ins at lunch counters.
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♪ >> reporter: in the early '60s, he was a freedom rider. challenging segregation and interstate bus terminals across the south. he embodied nonviolence. he frequently suffered beatings by angry mobs. lewis, 23 years old at the time, was the youngest at the 1963 march on washington. >> we want to be free now. >> reporter: then two years later, lead a march for voting rights in selma. ♪ on the edmund pettis bridge, they were beaten. lewis suffering a fractured skull. it would be forever remembered as bloody sunday. it galvanize support for the voting acts signed into law by president lyndon johnson. lewis never lost his young activist spirit.
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taking it from protest to politics. standing up for what he believed right, lewis was arrested more than 40 times by police, according to his congressional office. >> we're going to win this race. >> reporter: he was elected to city council in atlanta and congress in washington representing georgia's fifth district. fighting against poverty and for health care while working to help younger generations by improving education. he reached out to young people in other ways. after writing a series of graphic novels about the civil rights movement. winning him a national book award. in a life of so many moments and proud achievements, it was the achievement of another in 2008 that perhaps meant the most. the election of president barack obama. >> we have never been just a collection of individuals or a collection of red states and blue states. we are and always will be the
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united states of america. >> the dream lewis was too impossible to consider decades before, even as he thought to forge its foundation. >> this is an unbelievable period in our history. martin luther king jr. will be forever pleased to see what is happening in america. this is a long way from the march on washington. it's a great distance from marching across the bridge in selma in 1965 for the right to vote. >> reporter: in 2011 after more than 50 years at the front lines of civil rights, lewis received the nation's highest civilian honor, the presidential medal of freedom, placed around his neck by barack obama. lew lewis wasn't content to making history. consider the impetus for the national museum for african-american history and culture. he never stopped stirring up good trouble, as he liked to call, boycotting the inaugurations of george w. bush after the contested 2000
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election and vocally opposing donald trump in 2007 signing suspicions of russian election meddling. at a protest against president trump's immigration policy, the congressman, then an elder statesman riled up the crowds with words he lived by as an activist, as a lawmaker, as a leader. >> we must never ever give up. we must be brave, bold, and courageous. >> and this morning the tributes are pouring in. we have cnn congressional reporter lauren fox with us this morning. lauren, the conscience of the congress has now died. what are his colleagues on capitol hill saying this morning? >> well, you're right, abby. these tributes are pouring in. not just from his academic colleagu colleague -- democratic colleagues but across the aisle. mitch mcconnell and kevin
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mccarthy put out a statement. the tributes, one of them coming from nancy pelosi, read a lot like this. from pelosi, quote "john lewis was a titan of the civil rights movement. whose goodness, faith, and bravery transformed our nation. may his memory be an inspiration that moves us all to, in the face of injustice, to make good trouble and go forward." while he was on capitol hill, he took that activist spirit he had and inspired and mentored lawmakers coming up through the ranks. in 2016, if you remember, when republicans controlled the house of representatives, democrats were fighting day after day to try to put gun legislation on
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the floor. john lewis was one of the members who lead a sit in on the house floor that went for hours and hours and that was the kind of practice that he really inspired members to take on themselves. and, you know, as we saw in that package, you know, he fought year after year to try to get a national museum of african-american history. he fought. he introduced that bill every single year. it would get blocked. finally in 2003, it passed. it was signed into law. at the speech where he talked about his fight to open that museum, he said, quote, "giving up on dreams is not an option for me." >> fought until the end. lauren, thank you so much. reverend rafael warknock of the eastbound kneeser baptist
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church was with john lewis. >> this from former president bill clinton. he said john lewis gave all he had to redeem america's unmet promise of equality and justice for all, and to create a place for us to build a more perfect union together. we're joined by april ryan. good morning. thank you for being here. i know you have known john lewis for so many years.
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can you tell us what do you remember most about him? what should the world remember most about him? >> what should the world remember most? that he was one of the kindest, gentlest spirits who wanted equality for all. while i was listening to you, i was thinking back over the years, i remember one of the first times that i met him early on, and in my time at the white house over these 23 years. early in my position as white house correspondent, and he had a reporter gathering, black reporters came to his home on capitol hill and i remembered just how he welcomed us and talked about various issues from civil riots to the issues of today and i remember all the art work in his home. he had beautiful art work from the caribbean of just wonderful art work in his home. then i think about who he was. the spirit of john lewis.
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the fighter. this nonviolent fighter john lewis. i think about him being a young man and how he attracted the attention of dr. martin luther king jr. he told me about these moments when i sat with him in his office on capitol hill. when he gave the information for my book and regaled me about the time when dr. king came to his home in alabama, hundred acre farm, his mother and father sharecroppers, he wanted to be the first black student at university. dr. king said we can get you there but the problem is, once we get you there, your home will be bombed and your family will lose your land. he said that was a tremendous price to pay. now mind you, before that, he and his brother and sisters were
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trying to fight finish the right to go to the local library. he took that fight to get a library card and go to the local library to fight to try to get to troy state. so he pulled back off that and then i think think about him going into the civil rights movement. he did it against his mother's -- he went on to march with dr. king. his mother did not want him marching because she understood the gravity. it could be fatal. it could be deadly for him and others but the reason why he kept going with dr. king is because of his mother's faith. en spite of her quest not for him to go and he said he saw his mother, you know, ironing sometimes saying the words "i've never seen the --" he said that faith she had would keep him on the journey for equality for all
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in civil rights. >> april, there are few members of congress who, regardless of ideology, regardless of party, that everyone is happy to associate themselves with. >> yeah. >> that will call him a mentor. that will call him a friend. not just my friend across the a aisle, but they want to be close john lewis. tell me why. >> he was a man that stood for change. he was a man of integrity. it's one thing to do something but it's another thing to believe in your spirit and for that spirit to overflow people. so i'll never forget when they had sit in. remember the sit in over gun control. everyone wanted to be with congressman john lewis who did so many sit ins. who was jailed over 40 times. i remember elizabeth warren coming and sitting down with him and i said, you know, this is great for a few hours but this
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man sat in and went to jail many times. he crossed that racist edmund pettis bridge over 50 years ago. he and others brought the attention of the world because white people joined in. he was that man that spirit, that peaceful spirit that made people say i've got to stand with him. and you saw so many people, democrats and republicans, listening and standing with him. and i also, going back to the bridge, i think about 50 years ago him walking and then on the 50th anniversary walking across the bridge again. there was a call to rename the bridge after john r. lewis. at the time he backed off. most recently, from the reports i heard from joe madison, he said he talked to john lewis
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recently and is going to let everyone decide that. now there's a call to rename the bridge named after the grand wizard of the kkk -- >> i imagine there will be a lot of passion behind that after his death. april ryan, thank you so much for spending a few minutes with us. >> thank you. in a moment, we'll speak with ambassador andrew young about congressman lewis' life. stay with us for that. one of the most remarkable parts of his legacy is bravely surviving that beating, as we heard from april there crossing the edmond pettis bridge in selma, alabama. >> it was a moment that marked his life. and cnn dana bash crossed the bridge with john lewis back in 2018. >> reporter: you marched across
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this bridge in a peaceful protest. and you were met with a billy club on your skull. do you have memory of that moment you were beaten almost to death? >> i remember so well the moment i was beaten. i was left to die. i thought i saw die. i thought it was the last march. 53 years later, i don't know why i made it back across this bridge, but apparently a group of individuals literally took me across the bridge back to the church where we left from. but i remember back at the church and someone asked me to say something to the audience and i said something like i don't understand it. our president johnson can send
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tell us what you're thinking and feeling this morning. >> caller: well, i'm feeling happy. i was just sitting here thinking there's a song that we used to sing in ♪ in the gray get up morning fairly well ♪ i think it's a great getting up morning for john lewis. john started his trek for freedom as a little boy and wrote to martin luther king when he was about 14. he was from alabama. martin sent him a bus ticket to come up and he got started and so he was probably about 15 when that happened. he has remained steadily on the case for justice and freedom and
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peace and nonviolence since the '50s. and i said that probably nobody has spent 80 years more deeply involved throughout those 80 years than john lewis. >> ambassador -- >> caller: yes. >> go ahead. >> caller: he was his mentor and ct passed just the day before and ct vivian was 96 but they were together since the nashville sit in movement in 1960, and ct vivian started his nonviolent struggle in 1947.
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so we really have a tremendous celebration of dedicated lives. totally dedicated to making america, as dr. king said, live out the full meaning of creed. >> one of the things that over the years being in washington you know that being around john lewis in washington was one of the highest things that people could do on both sides of the aisle. republicans and democrats. they all wanted to be associated with him. i think a lot of people felt that it was, you know, an honor to have someone who was a part of this movement still in congress. still holding their feet to the fire. he really did hold their feet to the fire. even up until the final days having a sit in on capitol hill over immigration. you know, tell us about the man you knew -- does it surprise you
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at all that john lewis continued to push his colleagues on the hill even into the final years of his life. he never really sat back and let people just sort of reminisce on, you know, nostalgia. >> caller: well, nobody would let him. because he brought so much to the political arena that there must be 3/4 of the districts where a black minority, a minority of good will usually can make the difference between winning and losing. so every member of congress always wanted to have john come to their district. because he campaigned for everybody for over 34 years, everybody was indebited to him.
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he didn't convince you by his arguments. he convinced you by his life. he believed what we talk about and he lived it every day of his life. he didn't have a violent streak in his body. he was always forgiving and loving and understanding. i had never made you feel guilty. he made you feel responsible. when you feel responsible and you feel like you're loved and he's concerned about you, then you want to kind of do what he wants you to do. so many bills passed for the african-american museum there in washington was one of the things he got through congress.
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there were many things. nobody knows the power of the congress. it all happens so quietly and it's always deeply personal. he was a master at that. >> mr. ambassador, you're a former mayor of atlanta. cnn center hits in congressman lewis' district. we've talk about what he meant to congress and to the rest of the world. what did he mean to this city of atlanta? >> caller: well, john lewis was -- grew up, really, spent his adulthood in the city of atlanta as our congressman for the last 34 years. he was very close to -- in the early days of cnn and tom
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johnson and i think one of the reasons why ted turner's interest in the united nations was there was an atmosphere around atlanta with jimmy carter and i was at the united nations and john was here on the city council. we have a street when you come to atlanta on highway 85. there's a sign that says "john lewis freedom parkway." and it -- you can't come through atlanta without knowing that john lewis has been active there. but i don't know that he has any enemies. to be around this long and not make any enemies is an
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achievement. >> you mentioned freedom parkway. there's a mural along auburn avenue that, hopefully, we can get video for people to see. people who don't live here in the city of atlanta. ambassador andrew young, thank you so much for taking a few minutes this morning after being up with don last night to talk about your late friend, congressman john lewis. >> caller: thank you very much. >> thank you. we'll be right back. a lot of healthy foods are very acidic and they're actually pulling out the minerals from the enamel. i like to recommend pronamel to my patients. pronamel will help push the minerals back into the enamel, to keep the enamel strong. i know it works. and i hear nothing but great things from my patients that have switched to it.
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we're gaining new insights what president trump can be thinking as the coronavirus pandemic sweeps the country. nearly 140,000 americans have died but the white house and the president continue to make decisions that run counter to the advice from medical experts. >> so mary trump spoke to chris cuomo last night. she's the president's niece. she said the president is not anti-science but the science is not convenient so he ignores it. >> those things work for the narrative he needs to spin so it would require him to admit in one way or another that he's made a mistake.
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a huge mistake, that's cost many, many tens of thousands of lives. he can't do that. so all he's got left is creating division. and that's a place in which he's very, very comfortable. >> mary trump is a psychologist. she also talked about her uncle's childhood and said the early years they're affecting his ability to govern in a crisis and she said this is not going to get any better. >> was he known as the smart one? >> no. he hasn't changed much, and i think, you know, if -- if we only knew him now, and extrapolated backwards, it would be pretty obvious. donald is a psychologically deeply damaged man based on his upbringing and the situation with his parents. he is not going to get better, and he is without question going to get worse.
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>> what is your biggest concern? >> that he be allowed to continue unfettered throughout this extraordinary confluence of crises we're facing at the moment and that do not seem at all to be improving and, in fact, every day seem to be getting worse. it's very, very concerning and i truly hope that the american people see it that way and, you know, make the right choice when we're able to make that choice in november. >> yesterday the president responded to his niece's book. where else does he respond but twitter? he called her a mess and this a seldom seen niece who knows little about me. president accused her of breaking some unspecified law. he also attacked her for criticizing his parents. her grandparents. he said they could not stand
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her. okay. up next, supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg is vowing to continue to work even as she undergoes chemotherapy. the author "notorious rbg" is with us next.
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ruth baders begin burg said her cancer returned and she's been receiving chemotherapy since may. justice ginsburg said she's seeing positive results from treatment and is fully able to continue on the court despite her optimism, however medical experts warn the treatment is serious. >> everybody is different. so it's going to be hard to say and i always hesitate to put numbers. everyone asks what is the likelihood of survival here. average survival is around a year. it's not very good. >> we're joined by a coauthor of "notorious rbg." a senior correspondent for new york magazine. irin crabon. let's start here. i understand this is a a pancreatic cancer that returned. what do you know about her condition and the treatment? >> unfortunately we've been hearing it multiple times with
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justice ginsburg. she's had cancer in her colon. more recently in her lung. she's been hospitalized -- in the past year and a half. she was recently in the hospital for infection. so for an 87-year-old it's remarkable that despite all of these health challenges she's still with us and she's working on the court. i mean, in a way this remote work the court is doing remotely worked out for her. she hardly missed a day. but if you listened in on the court's proceedings you can hear her voice loud and clear. you can see her opinions on her dissent. the majorities of opinions in this term, as she said she'll continue to do the job. she's been sharp.
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>> yeah. this morning i'm sure there are a lot of really, really nervous democrats who want ruth bader ginsburg to be around for as long as possible. do you think there's any element where the justice is staying on the court as long as she can to wait out potentially a trump term? >> well, you know, justice ginsburg has made absolutely no secret of her opinion of president trump. she called him a faker, including in an interview to cnn. it's clear she wants to stay on t the court but she's deeply committed to the work she's been doing but also because she doesn't want donald trump to replace her. i think she chose not to retire, something a lot of democrats are tre freaking out about now wishing she would are retired during
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obama but justice ginsburg is stubborn and committed to this work. i think the stubbornness will bring her through. the democrats are panicked because they don't want to see president trump further remake the supreme court. the question is will it change the 2020 election in a way that didn't happen in 2016 when there was an open seat vacated by justi justice scalia. [ inaudible ] >> before we let you go quickly here, according to the statement, the chemotherapy started two months ago. ginsburg she announced chemotherapy in 2009 before she underwent the procedures. is it clear why this is being made public now after the chemotherapy? >> you know, what she said she was waiting to see what kind of
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results there would be. it's interesting the question of what supreme court justices tell us. we recently found out chief justice roberts suffered a head injury but not because -- but the "washington post" got tipped and confirmed the report. justice ginsburg has been remarkably transparent. she has disclosed her brushes -- so she decided -- in general, i think she's disclosed far more than other members of the court including the chief justice. >> recently himself also had a health scare. thank you so much for being with us. we will be right back.
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see the signs that said white men, colored men, white women, colored women. i asked my father and mother and grandparents and they said that's the way it is. don't get in the way. don't get in trouble. but in 1955, 15 years old, the words and leadership of dr. king inspired me to get in trouble. what i call good trouble. [ cheers and applause ] that was a clip from john lewis "good trouble" from cnn films that looks at the life and career of the civil rights activist and congressional leader who died last night at 80 years old. you know, victor, i often think about how lucky we were to have
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him among us. still with us. a towering living memory to that period of time. but what is interesting and important about john lewis is he never stopped pushing. he never let people just sit back and say, well, that was a good time. that was a time when there were so many brave people. he insisted that everybody take it on themselves right in this moment we're living in. >> yeah. i remember when i moved to atlanta, i lived in his district for the first four years. i met him at an event in early 2013. it was right after his late wife, lilian myles lewis, had died. people weren't sure if he was going to show up. he was the keynote speaker. when he came and he started kind of low and then got to the crescendo, there was not a dry eye there. people knew if he could come in this moment to say keep the faith, as he often did, there
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was work for everyone else in that room to do. john lewis now at the age 80 more throughout the next hour. "new day" starts now. giant in the history of the civil rights movement has died at the age of 80. >> we want to be free now. >> he always believed in the power of love and not hate and his legacy will grow and grow and grow. >> he didn't care about himself. he didn't care about politics. he didn't care about fame or fortune. he cared about making a defense. so he lived a purpose-driven life. >> we must never ever give up. we must be brave, bold, and

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