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>> i'm about to, sir. did you guys have any plans? is the whole "john king usa" staff going out? >> unfortunately on my tab. i think so. hope you come back tomorrow. we'll have the latest on the terror investigation. new plans to boycott arizona because of its new plans for immigration. campbell brown next. hi there, everybody. major new developments today in the times square bomb plot. the suspect, faisal shahzad continues being questioned by the country's top intelligence experts at this hour. the trail already leading directly to pakistan. one pakistani official telling officials that shahzad met with the pakistan leader. are they targeting americans on our own soil. one of the most disturbing
aspects of this story is how close shahzad came to escaping. the tsa moved pretty quickly plugging some of the holes in the no fly list. i'll ask michael chernoff what else needs to be done. also tonight, the oil spill cleanup off the gulf coast. we have the latest pictures of that four story dome on the way out to the rig. but will it get there in time to make a difference. also the massive recall of children's tylenol. what you should do right now to protect your kids. we'll talk about that as well. let's go right to our cheat sheet for all of today's top stories, the mash-up. the gulf oil spill is one of the biggest stories in the country right now. network correspondents have been along the shoreline all day trying to get a good look at a giant funnel meant to cap the damaged rig. these are live pictures. take a look. >> this containment dome that you've been watching, the big white thing, four stories high,
70 tons, is making its way to that big leak. >> tomorrow, bp plans to send down the containment dome to cover one of the two remaining leaks. by monday, a pipe could carry oil from the dome to a vessel on the surface. this has never been tried before. at 5,000 feet under the sea. >> the fishermen believe this is chemical disperse ants. today, bp announced it's no longer going to use chemical dispersants under the sea. they're going to stop. >> it is endless. >> as bad as it looked, it was about to get worse. >> this is something we didn't expect to see. it's a sea turtle. >> we're going to keep watching the story and bring you new details coming up later in the hour. our top international story tonight comes from mahmoud ahmadinejad. he said pretty outrageous things over the years but take a listen to what he told george stephanopoulos today about the
whereabouts of osama bin laden. >> if you did know that osama bin laden was in tehran, would you show him hospitality? >> i heard that osama bin laden is in washington, d.c. washington, d.c. >> no, you didn't. >> yes, i did. he's there. >> you deny cats gorically he's in tehran today? >> rest assured that he's in washington. i think there's a high chance he's there. >> i don't agree, but thank you for your time, mr. president. >> ahmadinejad also insisted that iran will not back down on its nuclear program saying "we know how to defend ourselves." our top political story tonight, signs that sea party candidates may not be the voters' cup of tea. two hard fought primaries yesterday went to mainstream republican candidates. ohio's race yet to be decided. the republican establishment not
breathing a sigh of relief just yet. take a listen. >> three big states held primaries last night. those allegedly angry voters could have stormed the polls in droves and thrown out the bums. >> the key republican races, there were two in indiana. the incumbents won. the margin of victory was more narrow, but the tea party movement did not throw the bums out as you said. how much muscle are they going to have come november. it seems more successful at forcing retirements than getting voters to the ballot box. >> a big name announcing his retirement tonight. david obey, chairman of the house appropriations committee, leaving after 41 years in the house of representatives. >> and a sign of just how tough things are for incumbents, the chairman of the national senatorial committee, said today, "thank goodness i'm not running this time." the story people buzzing
about comes out of the heading out of the mouths of babes. elizabeth hasselbeck took some advice from her 5-year-old daughter and apologized about erin andrews who is competing on "dancing with the stars." >> i'm sitting there with grace, my 5-year-old. she said mommy, why do you look so sad. i said, well, grace, today, mommy hurt someone's feelings. even though i must focus on the detestable criminal who's behind bars who has made her life a living hell and is in jail, i ended up hurting her. i mean, in some way, if i'm him, i could have waited 12 weeks and seen this a little bit less without the prison time. >> thankfully, she's five, she said why don't you just call erin and tell her you're sorry.
>> you'll recall andrews was the victim of a peeping tom. he is now serving a 30 month sentence. that brings us to the punch line. it's from jimmy kimmel. he had fun with laura bush. >> the bush twins showed up too. jenna bush provided maybe the most candid moment of the interview when she talked about what kind of music her mother listened to. >> if you came to our ranch, if my parents turn on music, old country usually or some of my mom is a secret rastafarian, bob marle marley. >> my kind of place. >> that is the mash-up tonight. next, what we are learning about tonight's big news. a terror suspect, faisal shahzad's alleged taliban connection. cnn has been talking to
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shahzad nearly slipped through the cracks and escaped to the middle east. first senior homelands security correspondent jeanne meserve brings us up to speed on the investigation. i understand you've -- >> a photograph from dawn news shows he went through immigration in july 2009. according to an official, on july 7th, he was driven to peshawar and on to waziristan where he is believed to meet with one or more taliban leaders. mohammed rehan, the militant group has strong ties to the taliban and child. rehan was taken into custody on tuesday. officials say at this point, there is nothing definitive
connects shahzad to any extremist group. >> we are investigating those, but as to where that investigation takes us, it's still too early to make that judgment. >> reporter: a federal law enforcement official says there's no indication that shahzad had any associates here in the united states. he appears to have prepared and placed the bomb in times square on his own. one component, m 88 fire works were purchased from the phantom fireworks store in northeastern pennsylvania. he spent about $100 eight weeks ago. >> nothing that we sell that would make any kind of impact. the only thing remotely connected would be a fuse, but our fuse, the safety fuse burns so slowly that it would not be very effective. so honestly, i think this fellow was barking up the wrong tree when he thought these fire crackers would do something. >> reporter: just how close were
authorities to losing him? according to an administration official, shahzad was added to the no fly list 12:30 monday afternoon. nine minutes later a message went out to air carriers advising them there was a special add to the list, but shahzad's name was not caught by emirates airlines at 6:30 when he made his reservation while driving to the airport or at 7:35 when he showed up at the counter and bought his ticket with cash because the airline had not yet updated its no fly list. to close that loophole, the tsa is now requiring that airlines update no fly lists within two hours of getting a special notification from tsa. jeanne meserve is with us now live. you received new information about a possible motive for shahzad. give us your sense of what you're hearing? >> this is something that will sound familiar to everyone. i just talked to someone who's familiar with this investigation who says that shahzad felt that
islam was under attack and that was his motivation, campbell. >> you are also learning, i know, there was a specific reason that the tsa didn't call the airlines to alert them about shahzad. what was it? >> well, an administration official tells me that this is something they've done in the past, that in addition to putting out an alert saying we have an addition to the no fly list, they have picked up the phone and said be on the lookout for this person. the tsa did not notify all airlines at the request of the fbi for investigative reasons. i did reach out to the fbi for a response. richard cole co says we do not comment on specific investigations or techniques. one can surmise this was tightly held information. they did not want this name leaking out so they were being quite careful about who they distributed it to. in the end there was another trap in the system that did catch this individual. >> all right, jeanne meserve for
us tonight. thanks very much. >> just a short time ago, i spoke with former homelands security secretary, michael chernoff and asked him about whether these new no fly rules would have stopped him from getting on the airplane. take a listen? >> the problem in this case is that the no fly list is still operated by the airlines and not by tsa. there's a program called secure flight which relaunched a few years ago, although it was delayed by the airlines, that will, when it is fully implemented, eliminate this problem, because it will no longer be up to the airlines to deny boarding but it will be up to tsa. i should point out, campbell, there was a backup here which did work, which is customs and border protection's ability to look at the manifest before the plane leaves. it's that backup that's a very important part of the entire system. >> it was a crucial part in this case, certainly. >> right. >> we also learned today that a
high value interrogation group is handling the interrogation. what does that mean, exactly? what additional powers or skills does that group have? >> well, i think the purpose of this is to make sure that when decisions are made about how to interrogate somebody, what to what kind of techniques to use, frankly, whether somebody should be mirandized or not, you're getting input from people who are skilled representing all the agencies that have relevant information to bear. that means the intelligence community as well as the law enforcement community. that avoids the problem where the law enforcement people do their own thing without considering the possible impact on intelligence gathering. that's a good thing. >> so give me your take, based on what we know, and we don't know that much, but we do know some about how he's been interrogated so far. how do you think it's being handled? >> we don't know much of.
i can tell you generally, here's what you want to be able to do. you want to be able to question the person and then check what they are telling you against other information you're getting. if there are discrepancies, you go back and you challenge the person. the issue here isn't is somebody talking, it's whether they're giving you the whole story or whether they're concealing certain facts. that's why you can't treat interrogation as a fast thing. it's got to be something that takes place over a period of time so you can do the cross-checking that is a critical element in evaluating the truthfulness of what you're getting. >> let me go through some of the stuff that we have questions about. investigators right now looking into a theory that would link this attack to the pakistani taliban. if that were the case, this would be the first time that this group has struck against the united states. do you believe that they are behind this, given what we know? >> let me say, first of all, there's a tendency to treat these groups as if there's a
meaningful difference among them. in fact, they do work together and there's an awful lot of interrelationship between the taliban and al qaeda, for example. they've lived together in the frontier area, they've fought together. what is important, this is yet another example of a warner, someone with u.s. citizenship, going back to pakistan, getting some training, and then being launched against their home country. that is part of the new set of tactics that al qaeda has been working on for the last couple of years. >> how do you protect against that? >> this is very difficult, because they are distribute rel selecting people with no record, they have free access to the united states and they know how to work in the united states and presumably, they're minimizing communications. that means we've got to be looking for other kinds of intelligence indicators. some of that is the awareness of
the ordinary citizen, like in this case, who sees something anom lus and reports to the police. it's the ability of the police to react quickly. it's the presence of all kinds of additional tools that can be used in order to conduct surveillance or intercept communications. all of these are part of a total strategy that is designed to minimize the risk but also recognized that you cannot guarantee that some of these attacks will not work. >> let me go back to the point you made earlier about his possible connection to the taliban, because there's sort of conflicting reports about whether he was kind of a want to be who inflated his ties to the taliban or al qaeda or whether he was trained in a camp in waziristan by known extremists. the question is, does it, in the end matter either way? what is the significance of this, given that they can obviously both achieve a very similar result? >> i look at it this way.
i'd say there are three types of operatives we look at. one is the hard core, well trained operative that would be used in a major attack, the kind of thing which happened on 9/11 or which they tried to pull off with the airline plot in 2006. the next level is the person who's brought in, they're not necessarily given access to the core al qaeda, but they are given some basic training and trade craft and launched back to use their western passport. that is perhaps this case, the zazi case. the third category is the person who gets on the internet and gets radicalized, they go off and do what they can accomplish on their own. that was the ft. hood shooting. we're going to have to build a capability to anticipate each of these different kinds of operations in putting together our intelligence program. >> that was of course former homeland security secretary
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connection and a motive in the times square bomb plot, faisal shahzad is accused of bung willing his way to blow up part of new york city. as amateur it may have been, the case has exposed gaping holes in homeland security, more than eight years after 9/11. jack rice joining us right now, he's joining us along with fran townsend. welcome to both of you. we're learning more and more about this guy's pakistani connections today. he's sworn in as a u.s. citizen. he flies off to pakistan. he may have met with at least one taliban leader that they think at this point. should any of that laid out from what we know have raised red flags in your view? >> this is always easier looking back after an event. i think we ought to be fair about that, but i think this is a real opportunity. there are tens of thousands of citizens, foreigners who are naturalized u.s. citizens.
we have to see now, looking backwards, what kinds of things we should have been looking for. as you say, one of them that pops out at me, this is a man married with two small children, a mortgage and home. he leaves for months. there may be perfectly innocent reasons. he stays away, the house goes into foreclosure, should the length of that stay triggered our attention. all these things are things we have to go back and try to understand and put in context as we search for others who may be out there having taken advantage of the naturalization process. >> jack, what do you think? is our government up to this? are investigators up to this given what fran laid out here? >> i think about what michael chernoff said. what the secretary talked about were these different levels of operatives who may be out there. he does highlight a problem. you go after the hard liners. those are the guys who are the most dangerous, but it's the low hanging fruit sometimes that are the most difficult because they don't have connections that one
would expect either on the intelligence or on the criminal domestic or international side. you don't have that either. the problem is is that number of people can be so shockingly large. if we take it one step further, you think about what's going on in britain right now with first generation british citizens of pakistani descent who have had problems of their own, you start broadening this net so wide it's difficult to keep your eyes on all of those potential targets. >> chernoff said that terror groups are deliberately looking for people like this, with clean records, western passports and they're minimizing communication with them. that makes it incredibly hard. >> that's exactly right. what we've seen in the eight years is al qaeda has gone from their goal of strategic, multiple simultaneous, multiple casualty events to smaller.
you ask yourself why. they got people like adam gadahn, an anwar al awlaki, these guys can have a tremendous impact, and have less likely to get caught if they have clean scans, no reason to trigger the law enforcement system. it makes it much more difficult. what you do need, community policing. local police departments and involved citizens like we saw in the vendor is the sort of court of last resort who can catch them. >> jack, does it scare you, i guess, more or less that as jeanne meserve was explaining to us, that he didn't have any associates working with him inside the u.s.? >> both. it's better in the sense that this may not be a very large, very elaborate and california very extensive operation which could kill a lot of people. that's a positive. the negative for the very same
operation is it's very difficult. if you have a lone wolf who's absolutely clean, how do you track that guy? do you simply say, okay, it's anybody who's a naturalized citizen? how many of those do we have? do you narrow it down from there and how do you narrow this down? every time you make a mistake and go after people you shouldn't, you create more problems for yourself than you had before. that is also a part of this conversation. >> let me ask both of you what do you think about how much he appears to be talking and telling them? to what degree should we be skeptical? >> one of the things he is reported to have said was that he was working alone. initially, i think investigators were skeptical. they seem to be coming around to the fact he may be telling the truth. i think we should all be skeptical about his statements. he said he was trained in waziristan. we believe he had contacts in pakistan but no one has been able to corroborate that yet. i think when you approach it
skeptically and look for corroboration. >> if you're going to do an interrogation like this, you assume everything he said isn't true. you have to verify everything. that does take time. it really is about tieing this to some other independent source. the same time, it's important, when you're doing an interrogation like this, you're going to have the nypd involved. you have to bring in the intelligence community. there may be something relevant said by this man that may seem irrelevant to the nypd but may be very important to cia, dod or whatever alphabet soup you want to use. >> dave cone, the commissioner for nypd is a former cia officer and former leader of the intelligence division of the cia so he understands this very well. >> thanks to both of you. appreciate it. coming up, a massive containment dome is right now at
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authorities are pinning their hopes tonight on a giant 100 ton steel box now headed to stop the oil, to try to stop the oil that is spewing into the gulf of mexico. bp says that even if successful, the contraption is at best a short term solution to this massive disaster. brooke baldwin has been watching the recovery effort unfold from mississippi. brooke, we know the dome is on its way. i believe that's a live picture we're looking at. give us a sense of when it's supposed to get there and explain what it's to do. >> sure. well, at least some good news, campbell. we have confirmed that this dome that you're looking at is officially out at open sea. it left the port earlier today. it's supposed to take in the neighborhood of 12 to 13 hours just to reach the leak location and then once it does that, the process of sealing this thing on top of the well head will take
another two days. we're hearing earliest saturday when they start containing the leak. >> that's about what you said containing it. talk to us about the cleanup efforts that are under way. how it's going? >> in terms of cleanup efforts. we have just learned from bp that they're stopping or at least temporarily stopping the use of those dispersants to break up the oil. we need to assess the effectiveness and the impact of that. we're hearing that they're giving the burning another go. they haven't been able to burn it because the weather has been windy and the water has been rough. >> brooke, i know you're not seeing any oil where you are, but there is enormous concern for wildlife in the area. explain that as well? >> absolutely. huge concern. we're hearing somewhere like 400
different species of wildlife. a lot of that is about 15 miles south of us at the massive barrier islands where it's the heart of the marshland. the turtles, birds, dolphins. i took this amazing aerial tour and was able to sea dolphins and their babies. one of the huge concerns is this is the most populace area of dolphins off the coast of mississippi and louisiana. the national wildlife foundation found two oily birds including one brown pelican which was just off the endangered species list. another concern, the you lauger head turtle, they found one gasping for air. just because the water looks clear, that's not necessarily the case way out there. >> absolutely. brooke baldwin, thanks very much. many experts believe this oil spill could end up being as devastating as the exxon valdez disaster.
we want to find out how communities are coping today, 21 years later, so we sent dan simon to alaska, which was one of the hardest hit areas. he's on special assignment. we're going to bring you his report tomorrow night. coming up, death, destruction and crippling debt in greece. athens is on fire. vie lentz protesters torching the city over the deep spending cuts. the country is broke and the fiscal economy is dragging down the world economy. it can happen anytime,
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displaced thousands of people. tennessee got a break today but rivers remain dangerously high. tomorrow, anderson cooper reports live from nashville including a tour of a national treasure ravaged by flood waters. some of country music's biggest stars, tim mcgraw and faith hill. >> members of the phoenix suns plan to wear jerseys called los suns. it shows the opposition to the new law in arizona. speaking at a cinco de mayo celebration, president obama criticized the arizona law. he says he wants congress to work on comprehensive immigration reform this year. and finally, the holly woops walk of fame. julia louis dreyfus.
got a star on the hollywood walk of fame. but her name was misspelled. a long time cnn copy editor noticed this error and he alerted the folks at the hollywood walk of fame. they've corrected it and she's going to get the wrongly chiselled nameplate as a souvenir. >> maybe she'll call him. tom foreman for us tonight. coming up, we're going to talk about the potential danger that may be lurking in your medicine cabinet. a massive recall of the most commonly used medications for kids. tylenol, motrin, benadryl, how serious is this? we'll tell you after the break.
if you went through your medicine cabinet at home tonight, there's a good chance that a lot of you would be looking at bottles of children's tylenol, motrin and benadryl. the government telling people to stop using the products immediately and slammed conditions at the johnson and johnson factory where the drugs are made. kate bolduan looked into what caused the massive recall. >> reporter: days after a voluntary recall of overthe counter medications, a scathing report from the food and drug d by regulators as serious. page 1, raw material used to major children's tylenol drug products had "known contamination with gram negative organisms" bacteria. page 4, no corrective action was
initiated despite 46 consumer complaints regarding foreign materials, black or dark specs found in medicine." >> dr. wolf is a critic of the industry. this isn't an isolated incident. this is the fourth recall in the past seven months. >> this is a company that sells billions of dollars of products. it's inexcusable that such a company would be so sloppy. >> the mcneil plant is shut down. federal officials continue to warn parents to stop using the drugs immediately of the not so easy says dr. jennifer shoe. >> many of my patients have gone through their medicine cabinets and checked the lot numbers, expiration dates to see if their medicines fall under the recall. a recall of this size is affecting every parent that i
know. >> in a statement, mcneil apologized to consumers, saying the quality issues that the fda has observed are unacceptable to us and not indicative of how mcneil consumer health care intends to operate. >> who is dropping the ball? >> the primary dropper of the ball are the companies. second secondarily, the fda was a little slow to get to this. >> right now the fda isn't saying what type of bacteria is involved in this contamination and mcneil has he declined to tell us how many packages we're talking about, essentially how big is this recall. >> and we have just learned that a congressional committee has opened an investigation into the drug recall. you can expect hearings on that in the coming weeks. "larry king live" coming up in just a few minutes whachlt do you have. >> we've got breaking news about the times square terror case and the suspect's possible
motivation. pretty good guess. rudy guiliani and john mccain are here to talk about terrorism, what they think about the federal government's response and who deserves credit for nabbing the alleged would be bomber. they'll tell us and a former leader in an islamic extremist group has fascinating things to say about how people are recruited and radicalized. you won't want to miss this next on "larry king live." >> we'll see you in just a few minutes. coming up next, the debate dividing the country, the new battle about reading miranda rights to a terror suspect. here to duke it out, mary matalin and roland martin.
time now for mary matalin and roll land martin to square off on some of the hot topics. guys, what do you got? >> campbell, thanks a bunch. everybody continues to talk about the car bomber from the times square in new york. the politicians are weighing in. here's republican senator lindsay graham of south carolina in a senate hearing today. >> what i want to know more about this guy is not how he committed the crime but what led him to commit the crime and miranda warnings are counterproductive in my view. >> i don't understand why politicians who are not in law enforcement are weighing in on miranda rights when you haven't even ascertained if it was
terrorism yet? >> you don't think from everything you've read after these days that a pakistani, who even the press is reporting said he got training in terrorist camps in pakistan? >> they are criticizing the miranda rights the moment he was arrested. you don't know all of that when you stop someone, when you arrest someone. he's an american citizen, so how do you say he's an american citizen so we're going to assume it's terrorism. the moment he was arrested, we didn't know. >> the conflict between civil liberties and personal security always comes into play at a time of conflict. in our history, great presidents from abraham lincoln to fdr have suspended civil liberties. they shouldn't be mutually exclusive. today's citizens choose personal security over civil liberties.
when you mirandize somebody, you shut them down and you potentially let other terrorist activities go forward. now, moving on because it goes to the same point, this week, the governor of arizona who signed into the law that we discussed so rapidly last week received in her office an envelope of white powdery substance. i don't know how much coverage there was on this incident of real terrorism or real law or whatever you want to call this, this is dangerous stuff. i'm not talking about the histrionics of the liberals, but this is what i think is fueling the fury of the electorate out there. events like spitting on a congressman or the calling -- using the n word, those events didn't happen. >> whoa. you're saying it didn't happen. there is no proof it didn't happen. you can't say it didn't happen. that's not true.
>> the congress persons involved said it didn't happen. they said it didn't happen. >> no, they didn't. they didn't say that. look, this whole notion of the white powder stuff, we have seen nut cases do this when health care came up. we saw them do it when it came to the iraq war. we have people out there who want to square folks with this nonsense. it happens with crazies, whether they're on the left or right. it is ridiculous. i'm not going to sit there and act as if it's one side. there are nutty people who love to do this. >> no, no. >> they're not? >> you missed my point. in a typical male fashion, you completely missed my point. >> now it's a male thing. >> on your side of the aisle -- yes, because men don't listen. >> no, if it's not, we brush it away. >> you call it nonsense. i'm going to criticize being a
liberal. i wasn't saying it only happened on one side. i said when it happens on the right side, these people are racist and they're not nazis. when it happens on the other side, it just disappears. nobody talks about it. that's my point. >> i have no idea what the heck you're talking about. it has nothing to do with a man or female. there are crazy people out there. i'm not on one side. i'm not on the side of crazies. liberal or conservatives. >> we agree. >> 32 african-american who are republicans running. the fact that it is a story that black people are running as republicans shows to me republicans is a black problem. it's an actual story. i think the real issue is not that they're running. can they win? >> that they're running on conservative principles in this year when people are so anti the liberal principles as personified and glorified by
president obama, of course they are. i love they are running on their credentials and not the color of their skin. >> if you run, you're running on a platform. in previous years, we saw 25 republicans running before they didn't win. we've had other years, the year of the black republican, it didn't turn out. we'll see what happens. i don't think there's a story they're running. the story is going to be if they actually win. >> all right. campbell, back to you. >> mary and roland. thanks guys. "larry king live" starts in just a few moments. mourning yeardley love, irloi you're looking at a vigil for yeardley love. we're learning more about her death. dad, it more than doubles your risk of a heart attack or stroke. you'd better read about plavix. if you have p.a.d., plavix can help protect you
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students at the university of virginia are mourning a 22-year-old lacrosse player, yeardley love who police say was brutally murdered by george huguely. investigators retrieved her computer and huguely admitted to slamming her head against the wall and leaving her in a pool of blood. >> reporter: this campus nestled in the blue ridge mountains, we're learning about what happened in this student apartment early monday morning
before an urge enlts call went out to police. a roommate found 22-year-old senior women's lacrosse player yeardley love unresponsive in her room. >> patrol officers arrived on the scene. it was quickly apparent to them that this young lady was the victim of something far worse. there were obvious physical injuries to her body. >> reporter: according to police documents, there was a pool of blood on her pillow. love had a large bruise on the right side of her face which appears to have been caused by blunt force trauma. love's right eye had been swollen shut and there were bruises to her chin." authorities have charged george huguely with first degree murder in her death. a police affidavit says huguely admitted to having fought with love in the early morning hours monday and told investigators he shook love and her head repeatedly hit the wall. >> we are confident that ms. love's death was not intended
but an accident with a tragic outcome. >> reporter: his parents, step father and lawyers were at the charlottesville courthouse. ironically in 2006, the suspects's father, george huguely senior spoke to the washington post about conversations he had with his son about rape charges against duke lacrosse players that were dropped. five of the lacrosse players graduated that year. george huguely senior told his son, you have to remember and can't let yourself be in a situation where something like this could happen. at uva, grief counselors are helping students, staff and faculty cope. >> it's sad. we're shocked. >> it feels safe a lot of the time, but when something like this happens, it leaves you reeling. >> reporter: according to police papers, huguely told investigators he took love's computer frohe