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owners of local strip clubs for the women and the next day, one of these prostitutes refused to leave the hotel room saying she was owed another $170. cnn learned she then did go to police and that's what triggered the investigation. the pentagon says as many as ten members of the military possibly played a part in this misconstruct as well. joining me live is former secret service agent dan bongino. i also understand your brother is in the service, not being investigated as part of this scandal. can you confirm that? >> yeah, we've been very open and honest that we had personal relationships with a number of people, not just family but friends involved in the investigation. i can't really comment any further unfortunately, fwu i would be happy to talk about an
umbrella view of this situation. >> let me begin with, how long has this been going on? i'm talking prostitutes specifically. this can't just be the first time. this has to be perhaps the first time they got caught. >> i've been to 27 countries. i was the lead advance in three foreign countries for the president of the united states. and i can tell you, i have never heard of an incident like this happening on the trip. listen, i don't know what happened in the past and people didn't get caught for. you can never prove the counterfactu counterfactual. i don't know that. but i've never seen it, never heard of it on trips i've been on. 27 country, roughly 200 advance team members in each country. i have never heard of this before. it's an embarrassment, it's a sdis grace. i've been clear about that from the start. i'm froud of the agency. there are a lot of good men and women who work there. and unfortunately this small group of people have really
tarnished us for a while. and i hope america can forgive the agency. >> when did you leave the secret service, was it a year ago? >> may will be a year, yeah. >> so just about a year ago. so you're pretty fresh off the secret service and the tour with them. >> did you know any of the guys involved? >> yeah. i know really everyone involved from the investigators to the folks being investigated to the folks who were in country providing information about what happened. yeah. these are personal relationships. some are neighbors to this day. and that's what makes this just really emotionally devastating situation for me personally and professionally. >> without giving it too much legs, mao are they handling this? are they devastated? are they embarrassed? are they married? >> i don't know if they're all married, but yeah, devastated, hue mill yated.
they stand next to the president of the united states with a loaded firearm and say i go before he does. you're not going to get to him. they disregard political party, ideology. these are men and women who are real patriots. and it's unfortunate that this small group of guys that really tarnished the agency. and i think for a while now, this is unfortunately what's going to be associated with our secret service name. you know, there's a lot of people upset about this. retired and active. >> it's interesting you use the word tarnish. they're called the secret service, right? nothing about them is supposed to get out. now you have this splashed all over the papers. how can this incredibly elite group of men and women, how do they move forward? what needs to change? >> there's no opportunity for them to take a breather here. the secret service keeps them safe and secure. there's no opportunity to say let's have a board meeting here. they're planning trips right now
for the president of the united states. america needs to keep that in mind. no one is asking for their sympathy for that. and the second part of your question, i think you're going to see an enhanced training requirement potentially. they were very clear when i was there as to what the rules were, but maybe you'll see it made a little more robust at this point. maybe some new revised procedures. that's the best i can guess. >> when we hear about the news now that they're losing their security clearance. what does that really mean? and how would that affect their careers from here on out? >> you wouldn't be an agent without top clearance. it's pretty standard at this point, you're lose your clearance during the course of an investigation as the events unfold. the service is confident their investigation is complete and thorough, some will get it back, some won't. some will get their jobs back and some won't. so that's pret standard. >> and if they don't, what does a secret service agent, this is
what they do, what do you do next? >> that's a good question. you're traveling around the world with the president of the united states as a proud, no mill profession, not that there's not other professions out there that should be equally proud. but there's not a close second, i don't think, for the excitement and the thrill of being a secret service agent. i don't know what. co-s next for them and that's unfortunate. >> thanks for coming on. >> you're very welcome. >> house republicans want to cut billions of dollars in food stamps. who exactly in terms of numbers this could impact. and why my next guest calls this suggestion appalling.
ten-year cuts totals $134 billion. and lot of these republicans are saying the food stamp program has gotten way too big and there are folks who are getting food stamps who could probably do without them. a lot of other folks are saying the cuts would affect a lot of kids in our country. let's go to washington and talk to the executive director of the congressional hunger office here. and ed, ten-year cuts totalling $134 billion? give me some numbers. who exactly would this affect? how many? >> this would affect several million low income s.n.a.p. house holds. you're talking about a proposal as part of the ryan budget that would cut $129 billion over a ten-year period by block grants this particular program.
return it to the district of the states. tomorrow they're going to cut an additional $33 billion. they indicated that there will be no harm involved. these are technical cuts. if you hear that expression from congress, no one will be harmed. that's your first notice that you should be running for cover. >> when you mentioned millions of people might be affected, i assume we're talking millions of childrens. as we talk million you have record numbers of people who are in the food stamp program. the program began spiking during the great recession. then you from 2007 to today, we have seep the food stamp roles go from 27 million to 47 million. at the same time, though, the dollar cost to the federal government has more than doubled. doubled. so you have $33 billion in '07 when things really started
getting tough to $76 billion this year. how much of this is due to fraud? you have people renting out their food cards, getting these food stamps but buying food for someone else. >> my information is it is less than 1%. it's related to fraud. these are people committing fraud who are actual criminals. 99% of the program benefits go to basically, 51% go to children themselves. about 7% go to the elderly. and a significant percentage go to disabled people. these are some of the poorest people on the planet. a family of four, you know, meeting the poverty line of $23,000 really doesn't have a whole lot of money to spare. but you're talking about a population that's primarily made
up of children, elderly and disabled. you mentioned 2007. that makes sen. because, you know, that was before the recession. food stamps follow unemployment. when unemployment rises, food stamps rises. >> let's pick up with 2007, i want to show the graphics again. it shows food stamp rolls doubling since 2007. republican budget cutters say look, more people are relying on government hand yachts and the food stamp handout has responded way beyond what it intended to do. that's why they're calling on these cuts. what do you say to that? >> i think the program is performing as it should. it's the only program we have
you have people who need nutrition assistance. 1 in 5 members indicate they are struggling with hunger. >> i think a lot of these republicans would agree with you. they want to continue to help folk ps but they also say perhaps there's a little bit of fraud. we'll check that ag site and in the meantime, we'll see where this goes, if anywhere. thank you. the alleged mistress has football chicks talking. one woman says is this hurts all women in sports. my next guest disagrees. back in 70 seconds.
we want to bring in a law professor in florida and senior director to have advocacy. at the women's sports foundation. nan nancy, you read the article, i read the krt pl . -- article. do you think this 25-year-old jessica durrel totally hurt women trying to get careers in football now? >> well, she's working in a mad men world where this is a 98% male world. so in an environment like that, anything that one woman does or doesn't do reflects off the larger group. now, the issue i have with what
she said is she's really focused on the woman rather than thinking about -- there is no way that this woman, that jessica would have gotten this job had it not been for her lover. this is what quid pro quo harassment is all about. i gave you a job in exchange you agree to sleep with me. >> i'm glad you made that point. i would be loving to talk to her, but she said thanks but no thanks. she is angry at this young woman. i want eed to ask you, do you think this blame is misdirected on this young woman? shouldn't it be on petrino? he was the one in charge. >> sure. attorney-client, physicians, employer-employee. the standard rule is there are no romantic or sexual relationships between those in authority and those who are not. and so, you know, we do that in
order to protect the person. you don't have to sleep with the boss in order to get ahead. 25 years ago, women really did have to put up with a lot. >> so who is to blame here? >> that's why we have these standard norms here. i would say the person really responsible is bobby. he's the one who made it so that he got her a job that he would other wise not have. and of course, bystanders get hurt. hey, i didn't get a job as a result of that. so quid pro quo harassment doesn't just hurt the person who's actually having to be the position of giving up romance and b sex, but it hurts everyone around them. they're making sure that club coaches are not involved in romantic relationships with their athletes. it really hurts the team dynamic
when the coach is giving special attention over the one athlete they're having a romantic relationship with. >> she talks a little bit about her dres stankowski dard. let me just quote here. >> she says is watch what you wear. in washington, anything dressier than jeans was not okay as it was seen as a distraction in the office. i soon learned my best bet was to always wear pants and flats. it sounded like she was having to change what she was wearing because of the guys in the office. how do you feel about what she said and shouldn't it be the other way around? >> she has to be hyper
concerned. again, she's in a mad men world of 98% men. you've got about 50% of men who coach women but less than 2% of women can get into the coaching world and get into the football world for coaching men. she has to be hyper concerned about what it is that she does. as those barriers break down, it will be much less of an issue. right now, the numbers the way they are, rather than blaming another woman who let's face it, jessica durrel would probably not have gotten this job if she was not sleeping with bobby petrino. rather than blaming her, to blame -- she's working in a very macho sexist call chur. that doesn't really value having women in it. otherwise, you would see a lot more women in it. >> it is an all male sport. we'll see if the barriers are broken in this kind of sport. >> there are lots of all women
sports that have a lot of women working around it. >> there you go. can it be equal? i don't know. we'll see. nancy -- >> there's no reason why not. >> there you go. thank you so much. i'll tweet out this article from si. my twitter handle @brookebcnn. is it ever okay to handcuff a 6-year-old? a 6-year-old? you're going to hear why police did exactly that after this incident at a school. plus a coup sues their landlord because they say their house is haunted. do they have a case? do sellers have an obligation to tell you whether a home is haunted. sunny hostin has the answer. she's next.
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report. the ro report goes on to say johnson began tearing items off the walls, tossing furniture around. police say they handcuffed the 6-year-old girl both for her safety and the safety of others at the school, .but her parents believe another intervention show been done first. sunny hostin is on the case. this is one thing we immediately started talking about in our morning meeting. this day and age, our teachers and principals so afraid to intervene, to grab a child, they actually had to call police when this happened. >> it's pretty remarkable. >> i called my mother who happens to be director of a nursery school, a principle. and she says this is just not the norm. there are things that can be done prior to calling the police. in all her years of being a director and a principal, she
says she's never had this problem. she says there is a hold that you can do to try to calm a child down. she says also you can call the parent. there are a lot of steps that can be taken prior to police interventi intervention. this is actually considered very extreme in our educational system. we now know the 6-year-old will not be charged. is she facing in i kind of punishment, do we know? >> she's apparently been suspended from the school until august. until august. and we're talking about a kindergartener. that's a pretty significant thing. a significant punishment. it just seems to me, brooke, what the patients are calling for, a change in police procedure . the police chief
initially said that is their procedure regardless of age of the person that they always put handcuffs on someone who is in their place koor. the real question is should she ever have been placed in the police car. they're calling for a change in procedure because handcuffing a 6-year-old is just, in my law enforcement experience just remarkable. >> sounds a tad extreme. a tad. let's get to this one. this is a hauntedous. a new jersey couple is suing a landlo landlord, saying paranormal activity is inner that home. do they actually have a case? >> that's right. you know, i don't think they have a case. there are renters who sue their landlord all the time, each and every day. and sometimes they're successful for when they shoot for constructive eviction. meaning it's just uninhabitable.
they have rodents, no heat, no hot water. i just don't think that ghosts actually would suffice in terms of winning a constructive eviction lawsuit. i think what's so interesting, brooke, in response to this lawsuit, the landlord who happens to be an orthodontist has countersued them and said, in fact, what spooked them was not any sort of the ghost but, in fact, what spooked them was the cost of the rent which was $1,500. >> high school classmates hatching a plan to blow up subways in no. also not too long ago, president obama said he couldn't do anything about gas prices. yet today, he announces a plan that targets the market. so why the change. that's next.
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>> classmate is set to testify against classmate. also today, president obama pushes stiffer penalties for traders caught manipulating the price of oil. some amazing pictures from space we want to share with you. time to play "reporter roulette." >> what are we knowing, what are we finding out about this would-be bomber on the stand? >> this is the mastermind of the
new york city subway plot that was smoezed to take place on september 11, 2009. this is the man who's already admitted that he was the one that dreamed up this plot. luckily the fbi found out about this literally days before the attack was supposed to happen. and brooke, the importance of this case is this is the biggest, closest deal, plot, that al qaeda had since the anniversary of 9/11 where they came closest to carrying out an attack on u.s. soil since 9/11. azazi has been on the stand for a little over an hour. ewe're still waiting for him to get into the details of that day. he's had some chilling things to say, for example, about what he thought about 9/11. he said, my view is the people
behind it is america himself. >> as we're looking to get lessons on the stand what does he get for his testimony? >> certainly he is cooperating and acknowledges he's been cooperating with the government. he hasn't been sentenced yet. it's likely he might be able to shave some stay off. ket get to stay in a prison, get to do his time more or less in some place other than the super max prison, which is maximum security with very tiegts restrictions that's located in colorado. we should say as well the third defendant says he dependent do it but he tried to drop out of the plot and he claims is not a terrorist. brooke? >> thank you, susan. next, let's go to the white house, the chief correspondent there, jessica yellin.
tell me about the president's message. what was his plan to crack down on the oil speculators? >> hi, brooke. that's right. the president saying part of the high price of oil is attributable to folks who are trading in oil that are driving up prices and he wants congress to pass new laws that would increase some of the penalties on these guys. put more cops on the beat to watch them and put more data in place so they can see how these folks are manipulate iing oil prices and costing us more at the pump. >> we can't afford speculators who artificially prop up the market and drive prices higher, only to flip oil for a quick profit. we can't afford a situation where some speculators can reap millions while millions of american families get the short end of the stick. that's not the way the market
should work. >> i can already tell you, this is likely not going anywhere in congress. speaker boehner told our dei are e walsh he wonders where the agencies are. if this is alreadying place bhie aren't they cracking down on it. they haven't brought any charges against any individual or firm in that have time, brooke. >> so then may i ask, what is the point here? >> well it's tax day. people are frustrated with the high price of gas and wall street is a very, very easy target and one that makes the president draw an easy contrast with none other than mitt romney who the campaign likes to draw contrast with. he likes to say the president is on the side of the middle class. in the past, the president has said the price of high gas is because of middle east earn unrest and in the future it will
be china and brazil. it's very hard for a president to fix the high price of gas. got to find someone to blame. i guess today it's speculation. independent analysts by the way, say this isn't a bad idea, it's just not the fix. >> the president himself said not too long ago, there is no silver bullet. >> he said that again today basically. >> there we go. thank you. an amazing pictures from space. i'm not talking about the space shuttle discovery. i was totally up this morning watching all of that. like the space geek that i am. we have unbelievable shots. i bought an $89 cannon camera with 12.5 megapixels. think about what the government can do with a little more money with $89 and the pictures they can take. take a look at some of this stuff. time lapse of this explosion coming out of the sun.
that's a kroen ycoronal mass ej a cme. and all just exploded off to the left. that is not the direction of the earth. when it explodes off to the right, then we have to be concerned because some of that can approach the earth. it is kind of heading towards that thing that's headed towards mars. that lunar, that rover. but it will be okay. >> these are nice innocuous picture, but maybe not. saturn pictures? >> it's been out there forever taking amazing pictures and now it's only 46 miles from the moon. so here we go, this is what cassini looks like. been out there for years and years. there's the spacecraft right there, taking a number -- not just photographs, but images of
different things and different colors. seeing different temperatures even on the moon there. this is one of the things we didn't know this is this brilliant, but there are geysers or plumes coming out. there is liquid water below the surface out there around saturn temperature. >> seth is in the studio. there are 60 moons around saturn. chad myers, thank you. that's your reporter roulette. speaking of space, it has been more times than any other american space shuttle, but today, a fascinating moment as discovery takes its final ride onboard, piggy backing on this boeing 747. ♪
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the space shuttle discovery completes its farewell flight today. as it does so, so many of you are looking up and down the east coast, all the way from kennedy space center up to washington. john zarrella from discovery space center. >> just about four hours and 10 minutes to the second, landing at dulles airport outside of washington after flying around the washington area for at least 45 minutes. making two or three low passes
over dulles before settling down on the runway. discovery flew 39 shuttle missions. it flew more than 148 million miles in all those missions. it was clearly the most iconic of all the space shuttle vehicles. in fact, it flew both of nasa's return to flight missions after the challenger and colombia accidents. it had quite a history. i spoke to one of the pilots and he teared up. he said i thought i had this in the past behind me but he teared up. that's the way many, many feel here. that this is really a tough
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joining me now is a financial planner and carmen ulrich joins us. join in georgia wrote in, he wants to start a college savings plan for his grandson and wants to know where his options are. >> i would add my son to that list so we can set up two each. you've got a lot of choices. first of all, the simple one is you can certainly set it up as an ugma or utma, gift to minors
type of account. the down side of that is the child then has access to it at either 18 or 21. >> whether they go to clenl or not? >> precisely right. but the interesting thing about that is the first set of interest dividends and capital gains will be tax free, close to $1,000, so you can have each and every year have the money grow on a tax-free basis, which could be attractive but you don't have control. the other fantastic choice is a 529 college savings plan. each state has the plans. the beauty of them is the money grows tax deferred and if it's used for college, there's no tax on the growth. and some states give you an extra tax incentive to participate. >> and your question comes from beverly in california. we're going through a short sale. how can we prevent our credit score from imploding? >> oh, my dear. that may not be preventible. however, it will be noted that this is a settled debt.
so there will be a difference. you'll be able to show lenders in the future, this is not something you walked away from. you didn't foreclose on the house. ou ghot the debt settled. that's important to understand. when it comes to buying a new home or getting a new loan, you're about five years more likely -- two years to get a new home if you short sale, probably five to seven maybe if you walk away. it looks better on your credit report, your credit score will need to recover, but the sooner you do it, the vooner it will recover. >> great advice, guys. thank you. send an e-mail anytime to the cnn help desk at cnn.com.
danger. she is 23-year-old private kelly bordeaux. she was last seen saturday and she is stationed at fort bragg, north carolina. private bordeaux is blond, 5 feet tall last seen wearing a pink top and black short, and now we go to wolf blitzer who has taken a bit of a field trip. wolf, secretaries panetta and clinton live in your town. why did you have to go to brussels? >> they invite mead to come over. i'm going to be speaking with both the secretary of state and the secretary of defense. we'll have a joint interview tomorrow at nato headquarters right outside of brussels. i'm in brussels right now. i just got off the plane literally, secretary panetta's plane. we flew in from andrews air force base early this morning and just got here ready to do this show. there's a big nato defense ministerial and foreign ministerial joint meeting tomorrow to deal with the future of afghanistan which is the subject, obviously, close to my heart and close to the viewers'
hearts. more than ten years the u.s. troops have been stuck in afghanistan. u.s. spending is hard to believe, $2 billion a week, more than $100 billion a year to maintain about 90,000 u.s. troops in afghanistan. a lot of them are supposed to stay through the end of 2014. major decisions are going to be made tomorrow here at the nato summit. also in chicago, there's a big summit coming up in may. so we're all over that and i'm looking forward to having a joint interview with leon panetta and hillary clinton, lots of questions not just about afghanistan, syria, iran and north korea and lots of tough talk about. in the meantime we have a lot of news coming up in "the situation room" today. it's always good to get outside of washington a little bit, but brussels, belgium, ooh really outside of washington, but it's good to be here. >> lovely to see you there. it's a beautiful city. i've been there. we'll see you at the top of the hour from belgium. tonight, president obama
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the roof of his station wagon. newt gingrich made an attack ad out of this story, but the romneys have largely avoided discussing the topic until this interview with abc news where romney says the dog won't be riding on the roof again and we get unnecessary details on the story. roll it. >> would you do it again? >> certainly not with the attention it's received. >> you said it was the most wounding thing in the campaign trail. >> it was crazy. >> the dog loved it. >> but the dog got sick, right? >> once. we travel all of the time and he ate the turkey on the counter. he had the runs. >> and now we know. let's move on. the first lady, she showed off her prom dress and brianna keilar. she is our resident nascar junkie. first, i love this back and north with ellen and the first
lady and mrs. keilar would not have let you out of that house with that slit. >> reporter: i'm not so sure. this is a dress that michelle obama wore to her prom as an 18-year-old, and i don't know about you, brooke, but it's a natural fear of all women that their high school dance pictures will be widely distributed, but that is exactly what ellen degeneres did to the first lady when she had her on her show. this was a segment that was taped while the first lady was in florida with military families. here it is. >> i want to show you my prom picture first. thank you. thank you. thank you. >> excellent picture. love the dress. >> thank you very much. >> love the dress. >> thank you very much. that was a table cloth at one point. now i heard you have a good one, too, so i thought i would share yours.
>> that split was a little high. i don't know if i'd like my kids go out with a split that high. >> no -- >> let's not show this to malia and sasha. >> reporter: and brooke, i suppose when i was buying dresses that's why my mom said sit down in it, honey, and see how it look, right? >> i was just thinking i could hear my mom say can you dance in that? i don't think so. that's not going on you. let's talk nascar. this is in your wheel house. i know you were e-mailing me early this morning about that. nascar is hosting nascar sprint cup champion tony stewart. what's the plan? >> reporter: so this is an event honoring last year's champion tony stewart. we call him smoke. we nascar fans because of his sometimes hot temper and we went out to the south lawn, brooke, just to get a look at the setup there for this event. it's not just tony stewart. it's a number of other top
nascar drivers and like in other sports a lot of them do a lot of charity work. so president obama will be there honoring tony stewart and all of the community involvement that nascar executives and drivers do, and i have to tell you, in a town where democrats and republicans do not agree on a whole lot it appears nascar is one of the things that they do because tony stewart went up to the hill and hung out with speaker john boehner for a little bit and we got a picture from his office. there you go. >> very nice. >> reporter: everyone loves nascar. some people do, but democrats and republicans here in washington, do. >> ten seconds. will you get to say hey to the smoke? >> reporter: i hope so. i think it will work out with my live shot schedule. i always miss things normally, but i think i'm going to make it this time. >> good to see you. good to have you on. >> good to see you. >> that is it for me. i'm brooke bolduan. now we go to the special "situation room" with wolf blitzer live from brussels, belgium tonight.
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