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of two hasn't told her side of the affair, not in public yet, but she reportedly met petraeus in 2006 at a public event at harvard when petraeus was a four-star general in charge of the war in iraq. the affair didn't begin until late 2011, at least that is what petraeus' former spokesman is saying and he says he talked to petraeus since the scandal broke on friday. >> he is concerned that people understand that this one happened after he had retired from the army. the affair started approximately two months after he was in the cia, and ended about four months ago. >> the affair was uncovered by the fbi. that's right, the fbi, which sometime during the summer investigated harassing e-mails sent to this woman, petraeus family friend jill kelly. that probe determined that the e-mails, which included an admonition to, quote, back off, came from paula broadwell.
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while combing through broadwell's e-mails they came upon david petraeus. let's stop it here and bring in suzanne -- suzanne kelly in washington, our intelligence correspondent. suzanne, a lot of ground to cover here. we have this video that has surfaced of paula broadwell, last month, speaking at the university of denver and she's speaking here as david petraeus' biographer about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. let's take a listen. >> i don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the cia an annex had taken a couple prisoner and they think the attack on the consulate was an attempt to get the prisoners back. that's still being vetted. >> where did she hear that? did it come from david petraeus and do we know if her claim was true, the cia was holding captives inside a consular annex in benghazi? >> right, ted. this raises serious issues. she clearly said in the video
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the information she was sharing on libya and the cia holding prisoners there hadn't been vetted. so that means she is sharing something with -- that she heard with a public audience. that's concerning because they have to ask, what is your source? is the source of all of her information david petraeus? given her extraordinary access to the former director of the cia, it would have been a reasonable assumption. but, again, her access to him was not in any way in an official capacity. though she did tell me she was working with the general on writing a second book. a senior intelligence official says the claims are categorically not true, nobody was ever held at the annex before, during or after the attacks. but with something like this, ted, the damage is really done just by the nature of her putting information out there. >> what more do we know about his relationship with her, with paula broadwell? >> well, as we heard a little bit earlier, the general has been reaching out to friends over the weekend, and even today, telling them that the relationship began a couple of months after he started as
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director of the cia, but it lasted up until four months ago. we also know that the two were seen together about a month ago. what we don't know is if there was any conversation about the possibility of this coming out or one warning the other that this news might be coming out, but we do know they were seen here in washington at a dinner about a month ago. >> what about jill kelly? what do we know about her? >> well, a government source who is familiar with the investigation confirms to cnn that the fbi probe that led to david petraeus' resignation was launched after jill kelly contacted the fbi about that e-mail she said she received. she viewed it as threatening, she said, and it turned out to be from paula bradwell, but the source said the e-mail was jealous in tone but didn't know much about the content or if there was more than one e-mail. kelly has been known to be on the washington social circuit as well. according to this government source, who had actually met her
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at a washington party. >> suzanne kelly talking to a lot of folks in washington and we'll hear from -- more from you, i'm sure, as the story continues to unfold. the head of the cia was conducting an illicit affair. is that in itself a matter of national security? some members of congress apparently think it is. and they're asking why the intelligent committees weren't informed about the matter before they were. cnn's dana bash is live for us on capitol hill. dana, first off what is the reaction from people you have spoken to up on the hill. what are people saying today, a few days now after the shock has worn off? >> the shock has worn off, because as dianne feinstein, the senate intelligence chairwoman put it earlier today, as the layers of the onion are peeled off over and more, you see more information perplexing to those who know and revered david petraeus the way they did, particularly those who worked
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with him on capitol hill. the answer to the question about whether minority members of congress, particularly the four heads of the intelligence committees, the senate and house, should have been told, they say absolutely, positively. dianne feinstein was on msnbc earlier with andrea mitchell who said it is actually very atypical for them not to be briefed and somebody had to make the affirmative decision not to do that. the other thing she said she is really not happy about is never mind them, but the president of the united states should have been involved. we understand that he didn't know until the day before petraeus actually tendered his resignation. that was the day after the election. and the reason why they're so upset about it is because they didn't give the higher ups this information until they concluded that it wasn't a security breach or security risk. what about all the months where there were potential security risks or breaches while the director of the cia was going around the world with the most highly classified information and conversations that he was having about critical, critical
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hot spots. >> petraeus was supposed to have testified at a hearing this week on the hill, talking about benghazi. he will be replaced by the interim cia director. is there, and we heard a little bit about this, a little rumb rumbli rumblings, hais there a chance that he may be subpoenaed and david petraeus may be in the seat later this week? >> the hearing that is scheduled this week, likely not. mike morrell, the acting cia director, folks on capitol hill think he has been briefed, he's been very engaged in what the cia did and didn't know with regard to benghazi and he's going to testify. however, there is a lot of anger, frankly, at general petraeus, specifically, again, going back to dianne feinstein. she said she heard he did a trip report on a recent trip to benghazi and that he hasn't filed it yet and she wants to know what was in the trip report and she even did throw out the s
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word, subpoena, to say she might be willing to subpoena that information on the floor of the senate. the other thing she said in other sources i'm talking to on the house side said as well is that even though he might not be there this week, because, you know, they respect him as a human being and going through a lot right now, they certainly intend to call him probably in a closed session to get what he knew and didn't know on his thoughts on what happened in benghazi. >> paula broadwoman well was on show when she was promoting the book she wrote about david petraeus. let's listen to what she says about her access to david petraeus when she was talking to brooke earlier this year. >> how did you manage that? how did you get this access? >> well, this project started as my dissertation, about three years ago, and i was working with general petraeus virtually doing interviews via e-mail and occasionally running with him and interviewing and when he was selected by the president to replace general mcchrystal in
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the summer of 2010 i decided the time was right to turn it into a book. so i got a visa and went to afghanistan, actually went on a few trips and embedded both with the troopers in the field and also at headquarters. >> dana, are members of congress concerned about the level of access that she was granted? >> in a word, yes. part of the concern is that she kind of wore two hats. she was somebody who was a military officer, and so she, we believe, had some sort of security clurns once upon a time. but the other hat she wore was as a journalist because she was david petraeus' biographer. but talking to people, i do not know her, but talking to people who did know her, knew her pretty well, it was an open secret how close she was to david petraeus and she could get information to him and from him pretty quickly if people who knew her could get to her and
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get to him. >> all right. dana bash, as you said, the layers of the onion still being pulled back. thank you, dana. now this. >> one clip is especially disturbing. what appeared to be rebel fighters curse as they fire. the man, unarmed, is gunned down. >> up next, a chilling cnn report as the syrian government kills its own people. the rebels are now accused of war crimes as well. and there is video. plus, two weeks later, thousands still without power across the northeast. and now new concerns that insurance companies could take advantage of sandy victims because of a loophole. which house is yours? the one with the silverado out front. so, what do you do? well, ahhh... nice! [ clown horn ] was his name ♪ [ shouting ] [ child crying ] ♪ i...ahh. [ male announcer ] the chevy silverado. the most dependable, longest-lasting
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last time austin spoke to his family was august 13th, when he was about to leave syria for lebanon. >> we had no idea who was holding austin and that is the primary reason that we have come to lebanon is to try to find out where austin is, and establish contact with him and bring him safely home. >> everyone we have spoken to and we have spoken to everyone we can has said the same thing, that they are unsure where he is, they don't know who he's with, where he is, we're hoping for answers and we're here appealing to the people in the region to have compassion on our family. to whom ever has our son right now, we ask you to treat him well, keep him safe, and return him to us as soon as possible.
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>> the tics say the syrian government told them it has no idea where their 31-year-old son is, but the couple was encouraged by an october youtube video showing him captive, but alive. focusing on the battle in syria, the sides are now better defined. this is the leader of the newly formed national coalition forces of the syrian revolution. the group was established in qatar, sunday, as a way to unite the scattered forces. its first objective and main objective, to push out president bashar al assad, putting on a record what's been playing out on streets for more than a year. this youtube video which cnn cannot confirm allegedly shows anti-government forces shooting at regime choppers. the opposition group says assad's crackdown led to 35,000 deaths since march of 2011 and
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many thousands more wounded including these victims reportedly hit in the syrian town, a syrian town near turkey. but as the opposition decries the government for brutal attacks, some of its own are accused of very similar acts. cnn's arwa damon has the story for us. first, a warning, this report shows graphic video of atrocities allegedly committed by both syrian government and rebel fighters. some viewers may consider it disturbing. >> reporter: this is video from homs shot earlier this year. rebel fighters crawl through holes they smashed in walls and find an entire family killed by regime forces, they say. a woman's body lies on the floor. in the room next to it, bodies crowded into a corner. the slaughtered child's face, a mask of fear. more dead are in the bathroom. a small voice whimpers from another room, a child comes into view, crawling over a body.
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he's the only survivor. the assad regime has always maintained it is simply targeting foreign-backed terrorists, seeking to overthrow the government. but there are a horrifying stream of daily videos, none of which can be independently confirmed by cnn, alleging to show atrocities carried out by regime forces, that the opposition claims show no mercy. not even to those already dead. here what appeared to be assad fighters dragging a man's body up into a truck. and in this video, corporations are used for target practice, images like these the norm in syria. and now, a growing number of videos alleging to show similar war crimes carried out by rebel fighters. this video is said to have been shot in the town of hadden in
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idlib province. one clip is especially disturbing. rebel fighters appear to be cursing as they fire. the man unarmed is gunned down. in the next clip, a detainee is walked past the body. this is said to be from the town of sarakan. the man on the ground, allegedly assad fighters, cry out. their pleas met with a volley of gunfire. the head of the free syrian judicial council blames the actions on the ruthless tactics of the government. these are isolated incidents, carried out by individual revolutionaries. the regime tactics are what created this radicalism. he tells us from his base in turkey. a person who has had their entire home destroyed with their family inside, that had their entire family killed will naturally become radicalized. while the council has set up
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makeshift courts in some rebel controlled parts of the country, he admits they can't control or monitor every single person. still, he says, this is not a reflection of the revolution. our revolution is about justice, equality, and rule of law. things that are sadly too often among the many casualties of war, especially one as brutal as syria's. arwa damon, cnn, beirut. just ahead, the small loophole that could save homeowners tens of thousands of dollars following superstorm sandy. plus, a stern warning issued for insurance companies weeks after the devastating storm. so what do you think? basic.
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finally, a bit of good news coming out of the northeast. new jersey governor chris kr christie says gas russiationing
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his state will end tomorrow. but some have been living in the cold and the dark for two weeks, more than 160,000 people across ten states are still without power. congressman peter king, who represents part of long island, calls the recovery unacceptable. >> they have failed miserably. they're not doing the job, they're not communicating with the people. i'm hoping that they set up a federal infrastructure led by the army corps of engineers which will have a comprehensive plan which lipa would be required to follow. this is a disgrace. we're two weeks into the storm. and still over 100,000 people without power and with no real estimate as to when they're going to get it back, getting misleading information, getting distorted information. >> cnn's victor blackwell joins me from the rockaways neighborhood of queens, new york, a neighborhood still in the dark. victor, how are people coping? >> reporter: they're doing the best they can. the people in this building over here, this is building three of
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the ocean village community. 14 floors. no water, no phone service, no electricity, no heat. there is gas. some people are opening their stoves to let the heat out to heat their apartments that way or boiling water on the stove to get some steam generated in the apartment. we spoke with several people about the conditions inside. they say the hallways are dark because, of course, there is no light. there are some people who leave the garbage in front of the door because they don't feel safe or unable to walk to the incinerator. and, again, it is 14 flights from the top to the bottom. and there are other buildings in this community that are even taller. now, right over my shoulder here, there is a generator in the parking lot. there are other generators in the parking lot but they have not been connected. we met with a member of the management team and when i say met, i met him, he met me, there wasn't much discussion, here is what he said. >> can you tell me why the power hasn't been restored at this building? is that something you control?
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you're in management with the company? >> yes. >> okay. and what is your name? >> michael crush. >> tell me, people have been here for two weeks -- >> i cannot comment, sir. i apologize. it has to be run through the rest of our public outreach organizations. >> but you understand that the frustration that they look around, everyone else has power. >> could you excise me for a moment, please? >> what are the generators for, if they're not on? >> he told us he would give us a call back. well, we received a call, but it was from a public relations firm connected to the company. we're still waiting for a response to why the generators have not been connected and why this -- most of this community, just across the street, got power back early this morning, and ocean village has not received power. we know that from lipa tens of thousands of people still without power, 28,000 of them here in the rockaway peninsula, still waiting for answers, but, again, going into the third week, no phone service, no
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electricity, no heat, and for some, no running water. ted? >> and a huge pile of debris, the debris field, if you will, is just -- look at the pictures. it is unimaginable. you see the birds on top there, bottom line, victor, for the folks in the building behind you, how -- have they been told when they should expect power? is there someone going to come and plug in the generators? >> reporter: no. i mean, it's interesting because we have gone to the people who would have those answers, the management of this building and said when will it happen? you saw the exchange. residents are getting less than that about when the lights will be put back on. and it is very us have freigfru. the garbage for some people is just sitting in the hall. 15 days. >> amazing. all right. victor blackwell, thank you.
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sandy broke records across the mid-atlantic region, higher surges, most feet of flooding and a new one, the most aid needed ever for the state of new york. the new york times reports that governor andrew cuomo plans to ask the federal government for $30 billion in disaster aid. and while sandy's aftermath looks and feels like a hurricane hit, the storm system was actually considered a, quote, post tropical cyclone when it made landfall. and important difference that new york senator charles schumer says he'll make sure the insurance companies remember. why? because sandy was not a hurricane, people who filed insurance claims will be on the hook for much lower deductibles. cnn's maribel aver is here to explain. how does it work? why is it so important that the national weather service calls sandy something other than a hurricane? i guess hurricane is the word you do not want the storm to be labeled if you are a victim. >> that's right, ted.
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let's walk through this. it can get really confusing. for wind damage, from a regular storm, homeowners have to pay deductible of anywhere between $1,000 and $3,000. if the storm is categorized as a hurricane, that number goes up to 1% to 5% of the home's value. that's a huge difference in a lot of cases. senator schumer says that would put home owners on the hook for $15,000 to $27,000 more. superstorm sandy made landfall with speeds of 50 miles per hour, below the speed of a classified hurricane. >> was there a specific event that triggered him to do so or just doing this out of an abundance of caution? >> senator schumer said yesterday he's heard reports of insurance companies trying to change the designation by pressuring the noaa or challenging the designation in court. schumer said he's going to make sure that doesn't happen. he said, quote, the state and
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federal government both classified this storm as a post tropical cyclone, not a hurricane, and insurance companies shouldn't try to alter reality to save money on the backs of homeowners. and, ted, other politicians including governors of new york, new jersey, connecticut, have said they'll make sure nobody has to pay hurricane deductibles for this storm, but the president of the insurance information institute told cnn money the insurance industry isn't trying to charge it and individual insurers like allstate and liberty mutual say their customers will not, i say not have to pay the hurricane deductible. ted? >> good news for them. maribel aver, thank you. if you want to help storm victims in the northeast, logon to you'll find all kinds of information on how to contribute to the relief effort. up next, more than a woman behind the former cia director, holly petraeus, she has stood by her husband for 37 years. and she is a leader in her own right. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news
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we're learning nor about the affair that brought down cia director david petraeus. a friend tells cnn petraeus is taking it hard, and he sees his decision to have an affair with paula broadwell as a failure. i want to talk now more about holly petraeus, his wife, who until now has been seen by many as the woman behind the man. our pentagon correspondent barbara starr spent some time with holly petraeus. barbara, first off, what kind of a woman is holly petraeus? >> well, as a correspondent covering military affairs, i have run into mrs. petraeus professionally. she is a formidable woman, and quite an expert in her own right, ted. she works in the area of consumer finance protection for military families. she worked for a long time for the better business bureau. now works inside the federal government and her area is
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predatory lending, financial practices, financial health for young military families. this is something i've talked to her about. this is something she is an expert in. she a few weeks ago gave a briefing here in the pentagon to the press corps. she may not be known much outside of washington, but inside the circle of military families, very, very highly respected. >> yeah, i read today she was one of those generals' wives that was accessible and part of the regular folks living day to day. today we heard that david petraeus wants to fix his marriage. has there been any word on how she is reacting to that news? will she stand by her husband? do we know? >> well, we don't. i mean, let's be clear, this is a deeply personal, painful and private matter for mrs. petraeus. she does not live her personal life in the public eye, very professional publicly. and simply is not one of those people in washington who lives her life out there.
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i can only imagine how painful this is for her. she grew up in a military family. if you want to talk about army royalty, it's holly petraeus, not dave petraeus. her father was a superintendent at west point. the record of military service in her family goes all the way back to the revolutionary war. so this is a woman who understands military life and has seen so many families go through this. i can only imagine how painful it must be for her. i talked to a friend of the family a little while ago. he says she's holding up as well as can be expected, his words, of the friend and she is right now focused on her family. we don't really know what that means. >> difficult time, really, for everybody involved. barbara starr, thank you. after years of leaving it on the back burner, lawmakers including republicans are now pushing for immigration reform. we're not just talking about small changes, but possibly sweeping reforms that could
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well, it's been less than a week since he won a second term and president obama's schedule is filling up. here is what is on his agenda for the week ahead. he'll be out of sight today and tomorrow, but wednesday he holds his first formal news conference since the election. thursday he heads to the northeast to check on recovery efforts from hurricane sandy. and friday he sits down with congressional leaders from both parties to begin talks on the looming fiscal cliff. and on saturday, he will leave for a four-day trip to southeast asia. as the dust settles on the election, there is a renewed effort under way to bridge the political gaps over immigration. republican senator lindsey graham and democratic senator charles schumer say they plan to restart immigration reform talks in hopes of getting a deal through congress. their plan will focus on forming border security, secure citizenship documents, fairer, legal immigration and a path to
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citizenship for immigrants already in the united states. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is with us from d.c. jessica, is the obama administration saying anything about the graham and schumer plan as it starts to formulate here? >> hey, ted. they haven't commented on the plan so far this week, but graham and schumer are re-engaging on a proposal that those two senators first outlined in march of 2010, and the white house supported that r proposal then. that proposal has four specific components, not just tightening the bord, but the key component is a biometrics social security card so only those here legally can be hired. that is sort of can considered the key linchpin that could get a lot of republicans on board. also a path to legalization, a process for admitting temporary workers. it sort of is considered a framework for a comprehensive plan that the white house said they very much would like to get done for the president in the second term.
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>> what about the timing? why now? why is this being brought up after the election? there is exit polling that showed that majority of americans want something done on this. what is pushing this right now? >> well, a couple of things, first of all, the president made it clear that if he were to win, he said this during the election, immigration reform would be among his top priorities in a second term. he said, quite plainly, he believes republicans would come around to that because his words i'm going to look at it would -- a big reason, the president's words, i would win a second term is because the republican nominee would have so alienated the fastest growing demographic gro group. the president won more than 70% of the latino vote. and so i think the democrats see an opening to build on momentum, and lindsey graham is perhaps seeing an opening to take advantage of what republicans see as failing in the election
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and maybe a chance to get right with this issue. >> what is it going to take to get it through congress? this could be tough. >> i don't know. is the saying that's the $60,000 question or inflation, the $100 million question, i don't know. because of the politics of the election, there are a lot of people who think it could get through right now. i use the phrase get right on it. on the other hand there are people in local races who think that they'll get primary for taking a position on this in support of it and maybe just can't vote for it and we just -- we won't know the politic of it until it starts to actually play out, ted. >> jessica yellin, from washington, thank you, jessica. a massive explosion kills two people and damages dozens of homes in indianapolis. today, homeowners return to see what's left. we'll hear from the survivor coming up next. i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't work on runny noses. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have an antihistamine. really? [ male announcer ] really.
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buy now. save later. folks are returning home today to an indianapolis neighborhood in ruins. it was a deadly blast heard miles away, an explosion flattening one home and damaging as many as 80 others. >> most people text me from far away. it is not just that they heard it, they felt it. it is a concussion. >> yeah, we thought maybe a truck had run into our house. and then i thought earthquake. then i thought -- then i came downstair and saw the glass shattered and thought did someone shoot at our window and went outside and you can already see the fire.
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>> two people died in the explosion. while authorities haven't officially released their identities, a candlelight vigil has been held for a teacher who lived in one of the homes. next hour i'll speak live with a local fire chief about the mystery source of this explosion. parts of the so-called floating city are truly under water today. heavy rainfall has caused severe flooding in venice, italy. it affected nearly three-quarters of the city and has forced hundreds to evacuate. flooding in venice is common around this time of year, this one is historically bad. the high water mark hit five feet in the city, a number that was only reached six times between now and the 1800s. lance armstrong is further distancing himself from the cancer support group that he created. the livestrong foundation says armstrong has resigned from its board of directors. he had already stepped down as chairman, the foundation says armstrong made the decision voluntarily to spare the group
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what it called, quote, negative effects of the controversy that has engulfed his legacy. lance armstrong was stripped of his tour de france titles last month after he refused to challenge a report he orchestrated a sophisticated doping program throughout his career. armstrong denies he ever cheated, and seems to remain defiant. over the weekend, he tweeted this photo of himself lounging on his sofa, beneath his seven tour de france jerseys. growing tension between syria and israel, after days of cross border fire, now israel's president sits down with cnn for an exclusive interview about the back and forth and how his country will respond. you will hear what he had to say coming up next. questions?
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israel is warning syria,
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keep the conflict internal. israeli defense forces fired into syria after a syrian mortar shell hit near a military post in the northern israeli city of golan heights. this is the first time israel has fired on syria since 1973. senior international correspondent sara sidner is in jerusalem. sara, i know you sat down for an exclusive interview with shimon peres. what did he say about syria? >> reporter: let's talk about that, because what is happening in the golan heights has gone on for the past couple of weeks. there have been several incidents, five now, where either a tank has come into the demilitarized zone from syria, but those tanks pointed back at syria, mortars falling, bullets coming in, several sets of mortars that have fallen. the latest two incidents saw israel responding with fire. israel responded by firing on sunday into syria, saying it is
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a warning shot, and complaining to the u.n. about the mortars falling on the golan heights. they responded again today with another strike in syria after a mortar fell near a military outpost. but, what we're hearing from the government and from the leaders of this country is that they do believe that the war in syria is simply spilling over and that israel has not been targeted. i asked president shimon peres what he thought about what looks like more and more parts of the war in syria coming over into israel and what israel would do if it escalated further. >> what will israel do if this war becomes part of the problem in israel? starts to spill over more and more and affect the people? >> i don't think they'll much understand their own limitations. but if it happens, we shall defend ourselves. that's all i can say.
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i don't want to exaggerate and make great -- and bellicose intents. no, we're not interested. we understand that syria has enough of their own, and doesn't give us any pleasure. but if they're in danger, we shall defend ourselves. that's what they can say in a certain manner. i don't want to fire declarations because i don't like fire unnecessarily anyway. >> reporter: so you can hear there a diplomatic answer talking about the fact that they believe this is not israel being targeted by syria, but simply the war spilling over into the golan heights and the demilitarized zone f it keeps happening, israel will continue to respond and that may mean more fire coming into israel and syria. >> let's talk about the other
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possible threat, potentially much more dangerous one that is iran. did perez talk about if he was prepared to attack iran on his own, depending en what happens with their nuclear ambitions without involvement from the u.s.? >> reporter: it is interesting because what was said today is different from what we have been hearing, which is much more, much more hawkish. what mr. peres said today was that he believed more sanctions were needed, more pressures other than strikes are needed on iran at this point. he believed that the sanctions and what the pressure that has been put on by the united states and the rest of the world is actually taking effect there in iran and that more of that needs to happen. he did not say anything about escalating tensions from israel. he did not say anything about a strike, but only that he believed that more sanctions were needed and that is the way to go, where as we were hearing a lot more hawkish speak from the prime minister early in the days before the election.
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now we have heard very little about iran coming out of israel, but peres did talk about the fact that sanctions are taking effect and sanctions are having an effect on iran. he thinks more of that is needed. but did not really respond in a strong way to the idea of israel striking iran on its own. there have been a lot of arguments here as to whether or not israel can do that successfully without the help of the united states, ted. >> all right, sara sidner with an exclusive interview with shimon peres, thank you. more fallout at the bbc after a botched child sex scandal record. there is a call for a radical overhaul of the, quote, broken network. details from london when we return. ed... ed... those are good things. upstairs, they will see fantasy. not fantasy... logistics. ups came in, analyzed our supply chain, inventory systems... ups? ups. not fantasy? who would have thought? i did.
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general. his resignation comes after a botched report on a child sex abuse scandal. just the latest scandal for the bbc accused of covering up the alleged sex crimes of its own tv personality, jimmy savile. today, two more heads at the bbc are caught up in the same controversy. cnn's dan rivers has the story. >> reporter: it is a scandal that has claimed the top man at the bbc. >> i have decided that the honorable thing to do is to step down from the post of director general. >> reporter: but the bbc remains under the spotlight, the world's media camped out on its doorstep, including bbc news crews reporting on their own employer. as more casualties of the child abuse scandal are announced, among the broadcaster's senior management. the head of news, helen bohdan and her deputy steve mitchell are both stepping aside. a man who used to be a marketing guru for pepsi is now
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temporarily taking over at the top. >> today i've announced that we are establishing one very simple line of command in news, that's the first task for me as a new acting director general coming in, so i can deliver the journalism that is trusted. >> tonight, this program apologizes, a key allegation in a report about child abuse was wrong. >> reporter: the scandal that caused such consternation here boiled down to this. a failure to broadcast allegations of child abuse about a bbc personality jimmy savile, followed by the rushing on air of an inaccurate report. the politicians are demanding answers about who actually made those decisions. >> we need to find out who was consulted, who had the authority to take that decision, and on what grounds they possibly thought this program should be broadcast. >> will she agree that the next victim of this crisis must not be the independence of the bbc? the only organization that can
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restore the public's trust in the bbc is the bbc itself. >> but amid all the hand wringing and resignations here at the bbc, there are plenty who feel the victims of the child abuse should not be forgotten. >> we need to do more to ensure that if a child is in difficulty, that that child's voice is heard. and that attention is paid to them because sometimes we have tended to think the victim -- we haven't listened to what the victim is telling us. >> reform for the way child abuse victims are cared for and reform at the bbc for the way those stories are reported. dan rivers, cnn, london. top of the hour. i'm ted rowlands in for brooke baldwin. we start with thewoman who called the fbi and triggered the investigation that led to the downfall of david petraeus. jill kelly is the woman on the left. on the left -- on the right, on the left is holly petraeus, the
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wife of david petraeus. the kellies and the petraeuses are described as family friends. and we have just received this video, this is jill kelly leaving her family's home in tampa, florida, earlier this afternoon. let's turn to suzanne kelly, our cnn intelligence correspondent. suzanne, jill kelly went to the fbi sometime late last summer saying, she had gotten some harassing e-mails, how did those e-mails lead to the sexual affair that undid david petraeus? >> a government source who is familiar with the investigation confirms to cnn the fbi probe that led to that resignation of the director on friday was announced after jill kelly contacted them about e-mail she said she received and she thought was threatening. and it turned out to be from paula broadwell. the source says the e-mail was jealous in tone but did not know more about the content of it or if there was more than one e-mail. the source said kelly went to the fbi in tampa where she lives
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and despite living in tampa, capitol hill has been known to be on the washington social circuit. according to this government source who had actually met her at a washington party, ted. >> now, is there any suggestion that the relationship between david petraeus and jill kelly, like the relationship between petraeus and broadwell, was at all sexual in nature? >> there is no evidence that surfaced about that so far. we do know that general petraeus has been talking with friends, a lot of friends over the weekend, and even as recently as today who offered support to him and he's been forth coming with them about the details of the relationship with paula broadwell, it began two months after he took over as director of the cia, ended about four months ago and the two were seen together in washington as recently as a month ago. he's insisting to friends there was only one affair and one woman. >> so we should be clear that the woman that we saw leaving her house in her yellow dress, jill kelly, there is no evidence that she had anything but a pla tonic -- a friendship
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relationship with david petraeus. let me ask you this, what do investigators really need to know before they can say with 100% certainty that the affair between broadwell and the head of the cia didn't compromise national security? >> you can be sure that the e-mail exchanges, telephone exchanges and texts that may have gone back and forth between the two of them would have been scrutinized by fbi special agents. they're looking at information that was passed back and forth, was any of it classified, any of it inappropriate, did it go beyond there? those are thing they look at. law enforcement sources are telling us that they don't believe that there was a national security risk involved in this and they were more looking at a criminal nature of the initial e-mails that were sent, was there a crime committed there? now national security, while it is a very, very pertinent and important question doesn't appear to be at center of this. >> suzanne kelly all over it as this story continues to unfold. thank you. a lot of us are asking who exactly is david petraeus in the
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span of three days he's gone from national hero to yet another national cautionary tale. joining us now from washington, howard kurtz, host of cnn's "reliable sources" and "newsweek's" washington bureau chief. your column today suggests that david petraeus had a lot to do with constructing his own image, which was quite good. he devoted a lot of time talking and courting journalists. correct? >> that is exactly right. this is a guy who when he was a four star general and even as a junior officer was portrayed as practically being able to walk on water. he was on magazine covers, he was touted as a potential presidential candidate, and that was no accident. he gave a lot of access to selected journalists, not the kind of access that perhaps paula broadwell got, but nonetheless journalists travelled with him in war zones and called them to talk off the record or on background to keep those relationships strong. >> has the media given him a pass because people like him? and he had a stellar record? if this was a guy that had some
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controversy in his past or maybe wasn't real courteous to people and had a bad reputation, people would have been all over him, but the tone seems to be more of a, oh, that's too bad, than a, i can't believe he did this. >> that's right. not entirely giving him a pass, of course, but the tone undoubtedly very sympathetic instead of, think of the typical public figure or politician that gets into trouble in some sort of sex scandal, we're all over those people, dumb, moronic, couldn't keep his zipper zipped, but in the petraeus situation, the whole underlying tone has been much more, what a tragedy, a great man who made a mistake, we saw this when he became cia director and there wasn't, you would think, with given the situation in benghazi, the fatal attack there and questions swirling about the role of the cia, there weren't a lot of stories about petraeus, why isn't' dressing t ihe addressin questions and now the journalists maybe are exhibiting the natural human tendency to be
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a little bit more courteous and sympathetic to somebody they know, trust and perhaps admire. >> in an irony of ironies, among the people that he courted, of course, was paula broadwell, granted her unusual access when he was running the war in afghanistan and she, in turn, produced an extremely positive book about petraeus. she defended the book right here on this program last february. let's take a listen. >> not a spokesperson for him, and if, you know, showing the role model to other people in the world or other readers is a repugnant thing, i'm sorry. i think the values he upholds and instills in thinks organizations are valuable and worth pointing out. >> so in a sense, you say that petraeus campaigned to build his own images, eventually what brought him down? >> i guess you could say that. paula broadwell has given all of us a lot of video with the television tour she undertook on behalf of her book, "all in" and jon stewart asked her, so is the
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controversy of whether apetraeu is awesome or extremely awesome. maybe petraeus trusted her, his biographer, his admirer, just a little too much. >> i'm sure you'll have more on this, on "reliable sources" next weekend. howard kurtz, thank you. >> thank you. up next, the parents of an american last seen in syria are overseas begging for help. you'll hear from them. and the one piece of information that does give them some hope. plus, a tragedy every neighbor fears, a mystery explosion rocking a neighborhood and destroying homes. i'll speak live with the indianapolis fire chief about what may have caused this. ♪... ♪...
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the parents of a missing american journalist last seen in syria are in the middle east to
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try to find their son. deborah and mark tice travelled to beirut, lebanon, but they are still no closer to knowing what has happened to their son austin. last time austin tice spoke with his family was august 13th when he was about to leave syria for lebanon. >> we had no idea who was holding austin and that is the primary reason that we have come to lebanon is to try to find out where austin is, and establish contact with him and bring him safely home. >> everyone we have spoken to and we have spoken to everyone we can has said the same thing, that they are unsure where he is, they don't know who -- who he's with, where he is. we're hoping for answers and we're here appealing to the people in the region to have compassion on our family. to whom ever has our son right
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now, we ask you to treat him well, keep him safe, and return him to us as soon as possible. >> the tics say the syrian government has told them it has no idea where their 31-year-old son is, but the couple was encouraged by an october youtube video showing him a captive but alive. focusing on the bat until syria, the sides are now better defined. this is the leader of the newly formed national coalition forces of the syrian revolution, the group was established in qatar on sunday as a way to unite the scattered forces. its first and main objective, to push out president bashar al assad. putting on the record what has been playing out in the streets for more than a year. this youtube video which cnn cannot confirm allegedly shows anti-government forces shooting at regime chopper. the opposition groups say
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assad's crackdown has led to 35,000 deaths since march of 2011 and many thousands more wounded included. these victims reportedly hit in a syrian town near turkey. i want to bring in cnn executive director -- editor ted lister who spent several months in the region. how does this new alliance change the game in syria? >> it has been a lot of interesting developments in the spate of a couple of weeks. it the syrian national counsel, which is who we have been talking to for the last 18 months, really passed its sell by date. >> let's take a listen. >> we made it clear that the snc can no longer be viewed as the visible leader of the opposition. they can be part of a larger opposition, but that opposition must include people from inside syria and others who have a
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legitimate voice that needs to be heard. >> so that made this meeting in doha that has just finished really important simply because all sorts of people were coming to this meeting. went on fof five days. eventually the syrian national council says okay we'll become part of this bigger group. that group has street credibility. led by a moderate cleric, who suffered at the hands of the regime. the number two say businessman imprisoned by the regime, has prostate cancer but is fighting on. so they have real credibility. add to that, changes on the ground. the free syrian army has begun to reorganize itself into five different fronts. it has begun to push senior officers out of turkey and back into syria. the most importantly, it has begun to make it much more difficult for the regime from the south to supply the north. lots of fighting around places like marat al numan where they have a big military base under siege for three weeks.
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it is almost impossible for the regime to use this main road to reply aleppo. they have cut off the rebels. the road that links idlib with the coast. there is a lot of stuff going on the ground that is beginning to allow the rebels to carve out an area influence. >> how much -- you talk about the bringing together of all the different rebel folks, but there is a lot of chaos within those groups. how much of that is a concern that you do have people that are sympathetic to al qaeda or jihadists? >> there are a lot of jihadists. there is probably a thousand, 1500 foreign fighters in syria now. there is groups that are influential insofar as they'll carry out suicide bombings in aleppo and damascus. there are other jihadist groups in there. they are not by any stretch of the imagination the majority of the fighters. and free syrian army is very suspicious of them. but some of the chaos continues, the violence continues, there is no political solution, they will
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thrive on this vacuum and that's a big concern to the west, which is what you're seeing, this new sense of urgency. >> will this new coalition put the rebels in a better position to accomplish their goal of overthrowing assad and bringing some stability to syria? what does the world community think of that? >> i think it shows no signs of going away anytime soon. they still have massive arsenal at their disposal. they have only perhaps used 20% of it, up until now. you also have this monstrous humanitarian crisis, 2.5 million people inside syria needing help by early next year. 400,000 refugees in turkey, jordan already. >> can the world watch this then play out, slowly, like it is or -- >> i think if we get involved, it will be productive. we need to encourage the right people to take over the opposition politically and militarily. we need to get them to coordinate better. we need them to organize, targeting better and that's what you're beginning to see now as they go after the military bases and try to take those out.
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>> and this is a -- the first step you believe in real change in terms of organization with the rebel forces? >> the declarations are there. it is the action on the ground that will follow, that will determine whether this is really going to make a massive difference, but it reminds you of winston churchill when the allied forces defeated the access powers in north africa in november of 1942. said this isn't the end. it is not even the beginning of the end, but it might just be the end of the beginning and that i think is how we have to look at this. >> tim lister, thank you. back here in the u.s., two homes obliterated, doors and windows found blocks away. an indiana neighborhood is rocked by a deadly explosion. but the cause is a mystery. up next, we'll speak live with the fire chief in indianapolis about what may have been the source of this. 894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries.
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a devastating blast out of nowhere, two people are dead, and indiana neighborhood is in ruins. the explosion and fireball flattened two homes and damaged 80 others. but what caused this deadly explosion is still a mystery. want to bring in brian sanford, the chief of the indianapolis fire department. there were no reports of gas odors before this blast, but gas
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mains in the neighborhood are being inspected. is gas likely the cause here? >> well, ted, it is really too early for us to tell at this point. it is an ongoing investigation. our fire investigators from the indianapolis fire department and the indianapolis metropolitan police department working together to figure out just exactly what did happen and it is an ongoing investigation. we are working with citizens gas investigators also. they are actively participating in the investigation. so although we're unable to determine just yet what happened, we hope to have an answer here in the next few days. >> you say just yet. you seem to be on to something. what are the possibilities? it just seems so crazy that 80 homes could be affected by an explosion just out of nowhere. >> well, it was obviously a large explosion, as you say, it
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affected 80 homes. 30 of them to the point where they're uninhabitable at this point. we're expecting as many as ten of those homes to have to be totally demolished. so very large explosion, the teams have been able to rule out any kind of high explosive, certainly we're, again, working with citizens gas. there is, you know, some possibility that gas could be involved. but that is too early to know that for sure. and even if it is gas that is involved, what may have caused it to pocket or what may have caused an ignition source. all of that has yet to be determined if, in fact, it goes that direction. >> i now the indianapolis star reported the homeowner where the explosion took place, thinks it is a faulty furnace. is that something you're investigating? >> the investigators are looking at everything. obviously with the amount of devastation that was there, with
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the seven injuries and the unfortunate two fatalities, we're taking this very seriously. and they are going to hand dig out the whole area and they're going to get to the bottom of what happened. and don't want to speculate on what the final outcome would be at this point. >> i know you're the callout to your guys was that there was a house fire, but, boy, people on the ground there are in shock. take a listen to what some of them had said. >> most people texted me from far away. it's not just that they heard it, they actually felt it. it is a concussion. >> yeah, and we thought maybe a truck had run into our house, and then i thought earthquake. then i thought -- then came downstairs and saw the glass all shattered and thought did someone shoot at our window? and we went outside and you could already see the fire. >> amazing. all right, well, chief brian sanford, with the indianapolis fire department, we appreciate your time here. and let us know when you do
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figure out what happened there in that indianapolis neighborhood. thanks, chief. well, he's the man stepping up as general david petraeus' replacement. do you recognize him? well, unless you're a or a cia insider, you probably don't. so who is now leading the cia? a look at michael morell, his experience and the role he'll play in the benghazi hearings. that's coming up. ♪
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general, mike morell is the complete opposite of that. he's a company man through and through. he started with the central intelligence agency more than 30 years ago as an economic analyst, sort of has risen through the ranks over the years. in fact, he was with former president george w. bush on the day that the world trade centers were hit by the al qaeda planes on september 11th. in fact, he was in the elementary school when president bush got the news and when president bush asked him who do you think is responsible, without even seeing much intelligence, he reportedly guessed initially al qaeda. so this is someone who has been involved in the fight against terrorism over the past decade or so, he is said to have the utmost confidence of president obama, several u.s. officials telling cnn that the president thinks very, very highly of him. the one thing that may work against him in terms of getting the job full time is that
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traditionally cia directors do not come from within the agency, they come from outside. >> so morell, not david petraeus, will be at the hearings this week on libya. will the senate intelligence committee receive a statement from thpetraeus or any other information from him concerning the attack on benghazi or do they need it? does he know everything that petraeus knows? >> from what we're told, everything that david petraeus knows about benghazi michael morell also knows. that there will be no dropoff in the questions that can be asked of mike morell, that could not have been asked of david petraeus. whether david petraeus will be asked at some point to contribute something to these findings we know petraeus did travel to libya very recently, met with folks there on the ground, whether he'll be asked to include some of those notes or simply mike morell will be presenting those as part of his briefing, not sure yet. but everything we have heard from sources says mike morell is
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completely in the know about benghazi. >> all right, chris lawrence, live for us from the pentagon. chris, thank you. the nation is set to plunge over the fiscal cliff in less than two months. and the whole world is watching. but the big question right now is will washington do something to stop it? we'll talk to one of the leading voices on the nation's debt, former senator alan simpson. the co-chair of president obama's debt commission, but, first -- >> on the heels of veterans day, we're putting veterans in focus this week, including a colonel who is the first double amputee to command an army post. he embodies the sacrifices and triumphs of our veterans. meet colonel gregory goetzen. >> may 7th, 2007, my vehicle was struck by a roadside bomb in
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we're going to be hearing more and more about the so-called fiscal cliff in the days ahead. congress has until january 1st to reach a deal and avoid $7 trillion in tax hikes, hikes and spending cuts that would kick in over the next decade. former republican senator alan simpson of wyoming knows a lot about our nation's debt troubles. he's the simpson in the simpson/bowles debt reduction program we hear so much about. good to see you, sir. 50 days --
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>> thank you very much, you bet. >> 50 days until the deadline. are you confident that this congress will avoid the fiscal cliff at all costs or would they allow us to go over the cliff? >> i'm not confident at all because right now you have the leaders of both parties saying some revenue -- something rather settle that maybe wouldn't be bad for their party if it went over the cliff. think they have their own definition of what would be good and the republicans say that and the democrats say that. that's absurd to me, but they're actually talking that way. and as erskine bowles says, that's like betting your country. how can you be stupid enough to think that going over the fiscal cliff and the chaos of the fact that there is 7.2 trillion bucks worth of money flowing around in a big pot and selection date of december 31st and go too far and
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you throw it under -- you do too little, the bush tax cuts, go ahead, $3.8 trillion in ten years. got to raise the payroll tax. where is the aarp when they allowed that special blood stream of social security money to get cut? >> so there is no -- there is no doubt, no doubt in your mind that this cliff indeed is a cliff. it is a steep cliff. not one of these manufactured nonsense dead lines that lawmakers avoid and then they at the last hour come up with something and congratulate themselves at a news conference and move on or kick the can down the road a bit. this is the real deal? >> this is the real deal because it doesn't have anything do with democrats or republicans or the president. it has to do with the people that have loaned us 16 trillion bucks. every day we borrow 3.6 billion
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bucks. the reason they put this package together, so it would blow up, is to take $600 billion from security and $600 billion from nonsecurity because they knew when they put that package together, no one would be stupid enough to let that happen. well, don't bet the ranch on that one. they could do it and they will do it. they will do it if it gives their party advantage. they forgotten they're americans first. americans first, not republicans or democrats. and the president has to get off his can and lead, lead. >> there seems to be some movement post election. i want to play something for you, conservative writer bill kristol said yesterday, maybe the gop should consider taxing the wealthy. take a listen. >> i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below -- make it a million. really, republican party will fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted democratic and live in hollywood? >> what do you think? did the election make a
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difference here? did it take losing this election to get conservatives to maybe talk about this at least? >> well, everybody ought to be talking about everything. but let's get serious about taxing the rich. let's do better. let's confiscate everything that anybody who makes a million bucks a year confiscate everything they own, every swimming pool, every yacht, every overseas place, every airplane. that will run the country for nine months. who is kidding who? you can't cut spending your way out of the hole. you have to use a blend. anyone telling you differently is a fake. >> you've launched a new group, erskine -- with erskine bowles call the campaign to fix the debt. are you trying to revive in some sort of sense simpson/bowles? >> well, we're like lazarus, right? i don't have that kind of hair, but i think he had hair. nevertheless, of course.
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we have about 300,000 signatures. fix the we have ceos of principle corporations in america saying you can't let this happen. let me tell you, it is called putting heat on congress people. and the heat is coming and the heat now -- don't forget, they only have 15 days of session to solve this. they don't have to pass a bill, don't have to get into -- if they would just get together, so somebody could see on a sheet of paper, put it on the back of a matchbook that 34 democrats and 38 republicans and 150 demmes in the house and 160 republicans voted for a plan that would deal with everything and put a trigger on it so they had to move, and that will get the markets off your butt and you can get your country rolling again, just by doing a plan. >> senator alan simpson -- >> but bipartisan. >> absolutely. senator, thank you. appreciate it. we'll be talking to you over the
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next few weeks as this deadline gets closer and closer. alan simpson, thank you. >> you bet. we'll be off the witness protection program by then. >> appreciate it. well, it's been almost a week since voters in colorado and washington passed measures to legalize the recreational use of pot. and it looks like prosecutors in washington are already taking action, scores of people facing marijuana possession charges could get off scott free. we'll explain and talk about what's next coming up. jen's car wasn't handling well.
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well, just days after washington state voters legalized marijuana use, two of its counties are taking the vote to the next level, dropping more than 100 criminal cases. old misdemeanors for possessing
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less than an ounce of pot, the country -- the counties are pierce and king. >> there seems to be no point to me to continue to try to prosecute people, put them in jail, get criminal records on people, for conduct which is going to be legal in a couple of weeks. i think it is pretty clear what the people of the state of washington intended by this vote, which is for simple possession, adults, under an ounce, should not be a crime. and that's an easy directive for me to follow. >> criminal defense attorney joey jackson is on the case, joins us from new york. joey, is this a little premature, an initiative just passed last week, the federal law still stands that marijuana is illegal. >> well, how are you doing, ted. good to see you. and happy veterans day, go veterans of america, you do a great job. it comes down to a question of discretion. it is a discretional question at the federal level and at state level. why? because we all know, you and i both know, for more than 40 years, right, the federal
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government has said, no, to marijuana. they said it is illegal. so therefore because of our supremacy clause, right, which is article six, section two, of the constitution, the feds, it is illegal there and the feds have supremacy over the states. so if it is illegal at the federal level, whatever state does, it is illegal there as well. there is always the question of discretion. the people have spoken and in these respective states and i think the federal government may, in fact, respect that right and therefore say because the people have spoken at the state level, we're not going to do anything and now, of course, ted, we see at the state level, it is only a couple of weeks until it becomes legal anyway, let's leave it alone, drop the cases, not further prosecute. >> don't local law enforcement have to uphold the law, no matter state or legal? right now it is illegal. both state and federally. let's say a state prosecutor finds someone evading federal taxes but doesn't have to let the federal authorities know about that either. where does this end?
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you would think that just -- >> why come out and say it, maybe in the back room there the guys stop working the cases, but taking it on a leap there, coming out in public and making a statement. >> it is a great point who knows what they're doing in the back rooms, right? look, the reality is -- but the reality is this, we both know that prosecutors are political entities and prosecutors respect the will of the people. they're elected officials. if their populous made a decision and that is that there are other things much more important than focusing on this, you would are to think the prosecutors as we see here, ted, will respect the people and say we're going to use our discretion, not to prosecute. it is a lot like people speed all the time. but police can only catch one or two at a time. it is selective enforcement. the government has made a decision locally because of these initiatives in colorado and in washington state where they have said we're going to legalize the recreational use and as a result of that, we're not going to go forward and
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prosecute these people, and those cases that are pending, you know what, let's just dismiss them. >> let's take a quick listen to more from the prosecutor and see what he had to say. >> all told we had 175 cases that were in some stage of prosecution. either referred by police for filing or had been filed. those are the cases that today we are deciding to not move forward on. >> the bottom line, we should make people realize this is possession under an ounce, a misdemeanor, not talking about dealers, trafficking, and all that. >> and 21 and over, right. >> 21 and over. what if the ballot is overturned as the prosecutor obligated to go back and try to bring these people to justice? >> you know what, i think it always is in the prosecutor's discretion to do what they think is appropriate to the people. and therefore if they made that decision, ted, at the local level that we're not going to do this, and they have, of course, calculated everything and said, we're going to dismiss it, i think they're comfortable with
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the notion that this is how we're going to stand on this issue and regardless of legally whether or not it is overturned, whether the feds decide to swoop in and say, supremacy clause, it is illegal federally, controlled substance act, 1970, i think you're still going to see these people say, you know what, the prosecutors were letting it go, and those people who were arrested for it, they i think that's what we're going to see here. >> joey jackson on the case, thank you as always. >> good to see you, ted. shocking allegations of sexual abuse on "sesame street." >> the man who's given voice to elmo takes a leave of absence. the accusations, details and denials about an alleged relationship with a teenaged boy. that is coming up next. daughtey wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference.
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the voice behind the award-winning and beloved "sesame street" character elmo, a puppeteer named kevin clash has taken a leave of absence from the show denying accusations he had an inappropriate relationship with a teenage boy. nischelle turner joins me with more.
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what's going on here? what's he being accused of? >> reporter: he's being accused of having a relationship with a 16-year-old. the alleged victim is now 23 years old. clash, however, insists that the accusers was not under age at the time of the relationship. sesame street workshop first heard from the accuser about this back in june. they conducted their own investigation. and they said, quote, we took the allegation very seriously and took immediate action. we met with the accuser twice and had repeated communications with him. we met with kevin who denied the accusation. we also conducted a thorough investigation and found the allegation of underage conduct to be unsubstantiated. now, during their investigation, the sesame street workshop did find that clash used company e-mail for a personal relationship and determine that had he, quote,er excised poor judgment and violated company policy regarding internet usage.
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and for that, he was disciplined. >> has clash made any public comments about this? >> he actually has. he's not denigh that there was a relationship. but he is vehemently denigh there was any wrongdoing. here's what he told us, quote, i am a gay man. i have never been ashamed of this or tried to hide it but felt it was a personal and prift private matter. i had a relationship with the accuser. it was between two consenting adults and i am deeply saddened that he is trying to characterize it as something other than what it was. i am taking a break to deal with this false and defamatory allegation. there's still a lot of facts to sort out here. >> thank you, nischelle turner. lots still going on there. appreciate it. meanwhile, across the atlantic, a sex scandal unfolds in the uk.
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is december seventh. call now. scandal claims more victims at the bbc in a shocking twist of events. this man, the head of the bbc quits as director-general after a report wrongly alleged a conservative politician was involved in child abuse. this just a couple of weeks after the bbc had to apologize for failing to air sex abuse allegation about its own tv personality, jimmy savile. and today, two heads of bbc's news department also stepped aside. and today is also the first day on the job for the new head of "the new york times," mark thompson, formerly of the bbc. he continues to face questions over his handling of the savile allegations. lance


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