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and it may be hard. more broadly and would disagree that any of those three people cause a financial crisis. there were villagers of oversight -- failures of oversight, but that is one thing compared to pernicious actions of those who did those things. there is a bipartisan is trickling back to the clinton administration of not regulating derivatives that led to the current crisis. no one is exempt from time. but if i regionalist i think you're three would not be at the top of the list. host: our guest is in writing fellow, a contributing writing to campus progress. his work has been published by the new republic and other papers. he was also the editor in chief of georgetown washington's weekly newspaper. what took you in this direction? guest: i am in clause the. i like to know what is going on
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and i like to write about it. host: are democrats ready to fight for consumer protection? this piece of his will be on our website. thank you for viewing this morning. now to the house of representatives today. agriculture, will develop and fda, and related agencies. . a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's room, washington, d.c., july 9, 2009. i hereby appoint the honorable ed pastor to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, nancy pelosi, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: the prayer will be offered by our guest chaplain, mount erie baptist church, bridgeport, connecticut. the chaplain: let us pray. good morning, god, our creator, provider and sustainer. it is to you our refuge,
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strength, the one god who is known by many names. to you, god, we give thanks to this day, a day in which we have another chance to manifest your divine essence upon the earth. you have given us another opportunity to demonstrate your love for us in how we treat one another. and so on today i lift the members and staff of this the united states house of representatives. i pray your wisdom and guidance will consume them so that they will understand the individuals, families and, yes, even the nations that will be impacted by their decisions today. so teach them and teach all of us to do justice, to love kindness ando walk humbly with our god. in the name of jesus i pray. amen. the speaker pro tempore: the
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chair has examined the journal of the last day's proceedings and announces to the house his approval thereof. pursuant to clause 1 of rule 1 the journal stands approved. the pledge of allegiance will be led by the gentleman from texas, congressman sam johnson. mr. johnson: will you join me in the pledge? i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from connecticut, congressman himes, is recognized for one minute. mr. himes: thank you, mr. speaker. it's an honor for me to introduce today to the congress of the united states pastor anthony bennett of the mount aery baptist church in bridgeport, connecticut. ess he' accompanied by his -- he's accompanied by his wife and young and energetic son. the mount aery baptist church draws its name from the
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biblical name where noah's arc is believed to have been brought to rest. mount aery is a beacon, a refuge, a house of good works in a very troubled city. one of the poorest in connecticut. in fact, one of the poorest in the nation. but under pastor bennett's leadership, the mount aery church has sponsored ministries for teenagers, for children, for those at risk of dependency or recovering from dependency. he's fostered ministries in a very troubled location. one of the moving things i've experienced was when the church raised up recent high school graduates of the city of bridgeport at a time and in a place where half of the city's high school students do not graduate from high school. pastor bennett is a leader, a minister and a pastor, and i can't help but thinking this morning if all of us drove to match his example we would be a
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better country indeed. thank you very much, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will entertain up to 10 further requests for one-minute speeches on each side of the aisle. for what purpose does the gentlelady from california rise? >> to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mrs. capps: i rise to voice my support of a strong public option for our health care reform bill. it's simply too precious. and that's why we need to pass a meaningful bill, one that actually achieves the goal of providing everyone with affordable access to quality care. if private competition alone could have achieved this, it would have already. i'm supporting comprehensive health reform for patients. for each one of us who has a loved one who has needed care but was denied by their insurance company and couldn't afford the out-of-pocket expenses. let's give those companies a reason to provide us with better, more affordable
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coverage and give patients greater choice in who will be their insurer. i urge my colleagues to support me in a public option in our health reform legislation, and i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? mr. johnson: i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: so ordered. mr. johnson: thank you, mr. chairman. you know, health care reform is a disaster. the cost of the democrat health care bill is $1.5 trillion, and we still don't know how they intend to pay for it. that's on top of the fact that the democrats have spent nearly $1 trillion on the stimulus to create jobs that we have yet to see. plus $400 billion on a so-called emergency spending bill. they dold out billions to the auto industry, billions to wall street and a whooping $182 billion to a.i.g. and that's on top of the $700
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billion housing rescue. and now they want a $1.5 trillion health care plan. the problem with our health care system isn't we don't spend enough, it's that we spend it inefficiently. we can and we must do better for our children and our grandchildren. america, let's stop the red ink now. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentlelady from hawaii rise? ms. hirono: i ask permission to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: so ordered. ms. hirono: over 45 million people in america have no health insurance and over eight million of these are children. millions more don't have enough health insurance. that's dramatic but abstract. let me make it more real and tell you about two of these people i met in hawaii last week. one woman told me that she's self-employed and pays all her taxes. she works hard, but for her entire life she has taken care of herself because she can't
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afford health care. for years she self-treated a busted knee. it finally got to the point that she had to see a doctor but she couldn't afford it. she did something that nobody should ever have to do. she used a friend's insurance card to get the care she needed. another man bravely told me that he is homeless. he doesn't fit the stereotype. he has a college degree and works two jobs. one of his jobs provides him with health insurance but he cannot afford the 20% co-pay. he needs that money to pay food for his wife and children and to buy gasoline to drive his car to work. these people aren't asking for handout. they're asking for a little bit of help. it's time we provided it. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? mr. poe: request permission to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: so ordered. mr. poe: mr. speaker, the most toxic atmosphere today is the political climate. at the e.p.a. scientists are
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not allowed to disagree with the rabid dogma about climate change. recently, allen carlin, a 35-year scientist at the e.p.a., issued a report that challenged the theory of global warming. he pointed out the problems with the science that drew the conclusions. he pointed to evidence that the earth is actually cooling. the e.p.a. suppressed the report. his boss warned him that he better not talk about the report or disagree with the e.p.a.'s green agenda. the suppressionist speech and information undermines the very foundation of self-governance. yet, there is a systematic suppression of information that contradicts of what has become a green religion at the e.p.a. thousands of scientists have challenged the claims of global warming. science is supposed to be about the uncorrupted search for the truth and the facts. the e.p.a.'s actions are reminiscent of those who said the earth was flat and
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persecuted the hair ticket that said that it was round. and that's just the way it is the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from nevada rise? ms. titus: to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. ms. titus: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today to welcome the new ambassador from greece to washington. the ambassador has a long and distinguished diplomatic career, having represented greece at the u.n., nato and the e.u., among other posts. no doubt he will be an excellent partner as we move to strengthen greek-american relations on issues like sipe russ and the patriarch. those are examples -- cyprus and the patriarch. those are just a few examples. we mest focus on the geopolitics of the regions and also the economy. i congratulate greece on the recent opening of the spectacular museum. i was honored to represent president obama and the united states at its inauguration. built of stone from the region and bathed in natural light, it
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houses some of the world's greatest an particular wits. accordingly, it cries out for the return of the marbles from the british museum. i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back her time. for what purpose does the gentleman from louisiana rise? mr. fleming: i ask unanimous consent to speak to the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. fleming: thank you, mr. speaker. gradually the details of the democrat health plan are leaking out to the american people. call it whatever you like, this proposal is nothing more than a government-run health care plan if it has a government-run option. interestingly, it exempts members of congress from having to join a government-run health care system. as a physician for many years, i'm amazed at the number of congressmen who have enjoyed high quality, personalized health care in this country but
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are now willing to force postoffice style medicine on our people. in response to this, i have offered a resolution that will give members of congress an opportunity to finally be accountable for the decisions we make and how they affect the lives of ordinary americans. most americans feel that congressmen who vote for legislation creating a government-run health care plan should lead by example and enroll themselves in the same public plan. i agree with them. as a result, i have introduced house resolution 615 with a number of co-sponsors that simply says if you vote for a government-run health care option you agree to choose government-run health care for yourself and your family. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. fleming: i ask members from both parties to vote for this. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from new york rise? mr. hall: i ask permission to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered.
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mr. hall: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today to talk about how clean energy technology is creating jobs in my district and why we need to send it to follow our lead and pass the american clean energy security bill to create even more jobs in the hudson valley and throughout the country. mercury solar in my district started three years ago with five employees and now employs 60 people, expecting to have 80 by year's end. and another solar cell mfer will be employing 150 people by next year. business is growing in leaps and bounds because of the market created by new york's renewable energy requirements, because of federal tax exemptions we passed here in congress and because of the economic stimulus package. but more needs to be done and that is why we need the maxman-markey bill, the energy and jobs bill to be passed by the senate. it's time to invest in our future, for america to reclaim first place in the field of energy technology and to create the middle-class jobs of the 21st century. i urge the senate to quickly pass the waxman-markey energy
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and jobs bill and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from indiana rise? mr. pence: i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. pence: thank you, mr. speaker. at the close of last year it was obvious america was sliding into a serious recession, and to this very day the american people are struggling in this difficult economy. while in february this democratic congress passed a $1 trillion stimulus bill and the results are starting to come in. 1.96 million jobs lost since the stimulus bill was signed. unemployment was 12.4 million, it's 14.7 million today. the unemployment rate was 7.5%. it's 9.5% today, the highest in 26 years. and remarkably, the president last week said that the recovery bill had, quote, done its job, closed quote. done its job? look, the american people are starting to get wise to the
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democrat plan here. they understand the democrat agenda is nothing more than more government, more debt, more spending and a national energy tax and a government takeover of health care. the republican plan, fiscal discipline for washington, d.c., and tax relief for working families, small businesses and family farms. the american people are hurting. they deserve a real plan for a real recovery, not more spending, more taxes, more debt and more unemployment. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from colorado rise? >> to address the house for one minute, revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. polis: yesterday, they voted to expand e-verify. the american people don't want to see political posturing, they want to see real, meaningful immigration reform. building a bigger wall at the
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u.s.-mexico border is going to spend millions of taxpayer dollars and will not stop illegal immigration. reforming our broken immigration system will. forcing contractors to implement a costly verification program is not going to stop illegal immigration. instead, it would force cap--- cash-strapped small businesses to decide when losing government contracts or paying for a flawed system. it's not that we shouldn't talk about border security or pliment verification. we must. these are conversations we should have as part of larger immigration reform. instead of trying to act tough, members of congress should be tough and fix our broken system. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? >> i ask permission to revise and extend -- to address the house for one minute, revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered.
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>> every six, 12, or 18 months for the last few years, doctors who participate in medicare faced steep cuts, threatening to -- making it hard to keep their doors open. instead of working to fix the problem, congress issues a short-term fix. doctors need a stable and reasonable predictor of the reimbursement rates and our current sustainable growth rate formula is flawed and outdated. for several year, i've enter intro deuced legislation to address this problem. we need a permanent fix. our doctors are forced to live under the ax of yearly cutters in privilege of seeing our nation's seniors. reforms to the system are important. i urge constituents to go to the website healthcaucus.org, weigh in on the issue and stay abreast of the health care debates.
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the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from virginia rise? >> to address the house for one minute, revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection so ordered. >> the leadership of the norlte party claims this discriminates against coal, knew leer and hydroelectric rick power this act will make historic investments in coal technology. that's the reason coal-dependent companies as well as the united mine workers endorse the bill. the american clean energy and security act will strengthen nuclear energy by deducting nuclear from the baseline of standards. that's why america's first and second largest nuclear energy producers endorse the bill. the american clean energy and security act will create strong incentives for new hydroelectric generation when
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new turbines are placed in existing dams, that's why two utilities with substantial investments in hydroelectric endorse the bill. these companies that rely on coal, nuclear and hide roe would not support the bill -- and hydro would not support the bill. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman rise? >> i to the address the house for one minute and revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, ordered. >> my colleagues on the other side of the aisle want to see a government option for any health plan. the key question is would this many be subsidized with taxpayer money? if not, it would be a nonprofit insurance business which anyone could create now. if taxpayer money would subsidize, it will only crowd out other choices. a public option will not save money. it will compete and underline private plans and i'm afraid many companies will end up
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dumping employees onto the public plan. it's merely a back door to government-owned health care which will result in rationed care and bureaucrats in charge of your health care choices. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from pennsylvania rise? >> to address the house for one minute and revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, ordered. ms. call demp -- mrs. dahlkemper: as i travel throughout my district, what i hear is we need to reform our health care system. any meaningful reform must begin by taking control over the skyrocketing cost of health care. as a clinical dietitian for 25 years, i know this can only be achieved with serious commitment to healthy living and combating obesity in america. a recent study found that one of over five american 4-year-olds is obese. one out of every five
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4-year-olds in america is obese. why is this a problem? the c.d.c. estimated recently that the the total cost of obesity is $117 billion. mr. speaker, as a nation, if we are serious about reforming our health care system we need to get serious about combating obesity. i urge my colleagues to join me in ensuring healthy living, wellness, and prevention are major components of the final health care bill. the success of our reform depends on it. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from virginia rise? >> mr. speaker i request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. >> mr. speaker, i come here today to ask that you include all our voices in crafting responsible health care reform legislation. this issue is too large and impacts too many people write a bill from only one side of the aisle. more than in my home state of virginia, 1.1 million people
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are uninsured and health premiums grow 10% annualalism at ohm home i worked to form a group of advocates, doctors and others in the health care reform debate. these folks have great ideas that deserve an opportunity to be heard. they are clear cut ideas on which both sides can agree. we must let americans who like their health care coverage keep it and give all americans the freedom to choose the health plan that best meets their needs. we must also focus on prevention, disease management and wellness programs as well as the development of new treatments and cures for life-threatening diseases. we must also allow the federal government to partner with states to improve programs that guarantee access to affordable coverages for those with pre-existing conditions. finally we must improve patients access to health care. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from new york rise?
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>> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. >> i hosted a town hall meeting in my district in syracuse, new york. it was well attended with 4 lurks constituents in attendance. everyone was interested. i think there may have been 400 different opinions in the room of the ones most passionate were the ones on both sides of it, the extreme sides of it. there was the crowd that wanted a government-run, single payer health care system and wouldn't settle much else and there were a number who were convinced that the government should have no role at all whatsoever. i think most people are somewhere in the middle. i would like to share one story from my town hall. at the end of the evening, a man named dough west came down to show me his monthly insurance bill and how it went from about $350 about six years ago to more than $800 today. doug is rae tired engineer from
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a local company and unless there are dramatic changes, he'll not be able to afford the rising cost forever. doug and his family are examples of the constituents i will be focused on in my advocacy for affordable health care. >> for what purpose does the gentleman from florida rise? >> i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> as both house and senate democrats attempt to pass a multitrillion government-run health care bill, there are some fact that was come out we can all see. these three facts are known about the house democrat legislation. first, the bill will force 114 million americans out of their current health care coverage into a new government-controlled health care plan. second, the bipartisan congressional budget office states the bill will cost the american taxpayers $1.5 trillion. third, 29 million americans
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will still remain uninsured if this disastrous piece of legislation becomes law but 83% of americans like the insurance they now have. yes we must reform the system to include those without insurance but we must not throw out what is working. the american people need real reforms, not government-run medicine. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back his time. for what purpose does the gentlelady from washington rise? >> to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mrs. mcmorris rodgers: as a mother of a young 2-year-old, like millions of moms in america, health care is important to me. i want to know i have the freedom to go to whatever doctor i choose and have the medical treatment that's best for my son cole. we are facing a serious health care crisis and must do everything we can to fix it. everywhere i went i heard about the lack of doctors and nurses, the high cost of health insurance and the limited seaks
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to quality health care, especially in rural areas. i also heard fears that the government may take over our health care. parents who worried their child wornt be able to see the pediatrician of their choice or seniors who worry the doctor they trusted for decades may drop his or her coverage because the government doesn't pay them enough to keep practicing. during this debate, let us not forget that doctors are the true experts. we can reform our system and coverage the uninsured without the federal government setting up shop as a health insurance company and a health care gate keeper. without sacrificing that important doctor-patient relationship. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from yearbling rise? >> to address he house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> bob short died yesterday, most people n't know the name bob short. if you go back several decades and think back to the first
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series of the peanuts, that was bob short he developed an illness several months ago and we lost a great american a man who had great impact on the a lot of people who loved charlie schultz and the peanuts comic strips. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentlelady from washington. mrs. mcmorris rodgers: i move that the house do now adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the motion son the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the noes have it. mrs. mcmorris rodgers: i ask for the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: the yeas and nays are requested. those faring the yeas and nays will rise. a sufficient number having risen, the yeas and nays are ordered.
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and expanding coverage to all for a long time. so, in any complicated process with thoughts of different congressional body is looking at this, and of course with the administration's leadership, we felt it was important to say directly for hospitals were willing to do. we believe firmly that everyone, every stickler group, frankly every individual, will have to understand the need for change. we wanted to step up and show that willingness. host: let me give up the
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telephone numbers for you to join in this discussion about health care reform debate. specifically, the role the hospitals are playing to advance the discussion. the speaker is committed to move this along here in july. much discussion on capitol hill here in washington. regular watchers, you can also send us a message by twitter or in the e-mail and we will put those into the competition. would you explain to your member organizations are? guest: yes, the american hospital association represents the 5000 hospitals and health- care systems here in the country. host: there is an off-lead story here. this court on health care bills the luster of new packs, allies hour on effort as obama woos
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industry. there are lots of opinions about the different ways forward. they write that the obama administration hopes to boost its reform efforts with financial concessions from the hospital and pharmaceutical industries, but is instead confronting deep dissension on several fronts within democratic ranks in possible defections among key constituencies. henry waxman said yesterday that the white house in committee and others are not bound by the agreements. the white house was involved, but we were not. what do you think? guest: this is one of many steps along this complicated path of health care reform. certainly, we are in discussions with the house committees of jurisdiction as well as with the senate and administration. this is an enormously complex issue which touches every group imaginable.
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everyone in congress has an opinion about health care. what we are discussing is not whether or not we need reform, but what the best ways ford are. we have tried to lay out things that aref immediate concern, but not the only concern of hospitals. host: with you further explain this? this gets into theweeds about individual positions, but it the debate is interesting. the administration had expected a good news of yesterday from vice-president biden's event, but several state coalitions with for a value coalition -- the group argues for a different approach and says of the proposal was hotly discussed by leaders during a 5:00 p.m. conference call on tuesday. this new coalition plans to go public with its objections.
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guest: first of all, a correction to the article. the american hospital association members are hospitals and multi-hospital systems and other health care provider organizations. we have a terrific relationship with the 52 state level associations. 52 including the district and pr. those in our regional offices. they are independent organizations with whom we have a very outstanding working relationship. always in dialogue, always a lot of give-and-take. as i think everyone can imagine in the program as complicated as medicare and as a place of differently in different regions because of its different features, there are always lots of different takes on it. that is why we welcome that kind of dialogue among the states. we help facilitate it. we were part of the call on tuesday.
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whether it was hotly debated would be someone's opinion. we think it is a coshocton of way to air out these complex issues. host: thus began with a call from virginia watching us on the democrats' line. caller: good morning. i am the first time caller. there are two issues i have. let me preface that by saying that i am 53 and was born with their rare lung problem from a genetic problem. i have worked since i was 10 years old and the respiratory therapist for 23 years. many people in my field are scared to death of health-care reform. rightfully so. if we get into a national system we are worried about our incomes, our own benefits. i have had insurance for over 20 years because i work in the medical field. before that many times i was in
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hospital myself many years ago as a young person without insurance. i hated it. so, i do understand people need coverage. my problem is in the last five years as a traveling therapist i have seen many people who are illegals just using the emergency room like a dtor's office, and even poor people. even though i feel for them, where we going to cover people who should not even be in the united states? i know that that sounds cold, but again i have been on both sides of this fence. in fact i have only one lung. but i have been a hard-working united states citizen. i do not want to give health care way to just anybody. gues thank you very much, sir. let me be clear, the projections are that 95% of residence will be covered.
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the question of people who are here illegally has not be addressed and not part of that 95%. that gets us into other issues as to how that affects hospitals. you have noted the fact that people in need of care, whether covered or not, whether here legally or non do turn to ameri's emergency rooms. that poses a significant challenge. it takes us back to sum payment issues i will not get into them. that is an unresolved issue in this debate at this time. host: here is a question from a viewer -- where does the hospital lose most of their money? guest: hospitals are paid by different sources. to do this on a high level, about 60% on average, maybe 55% -- in some cases as high as 80% in some hospitals -- 60% on
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national average comes from governmental sources, medicare and medicaid, basically. to date they pay hospitals less than $1 for the cost of care. the national average is about 89¢ for medicaid, 91 for medicare. that is according to our statistics. in some states medicaid drops way below that, so does medicare. the shortfall immediately sets up the hospital to be behind on the financial equation. that is what leads to the cost shift over to the private sector which we would love seat ameliorate it. we know that the private sector cannot continue to sustain those added costs. -- which we would love to see the of private-sector ameliorate it. the just cannot produce the margin of profit -- burn
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centers, or emergency rooms which are so difficult to maintain. then you have to do the internal subsidy of a more profitable service to carry some of these better not. host: hear the from page of "usa today" gave a big coverage ever report from medicare. that will fill your at the hospitals, debt and readmission rate is found lacking. -- it is a failure, a double failure at the hospitals. the majority operate the equivalent of revolving doors for their patience. -- patients. what does this report mean? guest: we are part of that effort. something called the hospital quality alliance, one of the
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founding organizations. as were the centers calledcms. we work closely together. we have virtually all hospitals in the country publicly reporting data. today's release refreshes some of that data already out there. it adds new data also. if you good to the website you can access it. it is publicly available. -- if you go to the website. we look at heart failure, heart attack, and ammonia, the original three diagnoses with which we began several years ago. -- andpneumonia. last year we added mortality data. within 30 days of that. this year we are adding readmissions data from those same three diagnoses so that
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patients and hospitals have that information. so that hospitals can see if they're performing better, worse than, or as expected. this is an important public information tool and an important performance improvement to. we're getting a very well- grounded look at these three frequent diagnoses. host: this is grove city on the republican line. caller: good morning, thanks for seize them. it is nice to see the host/anchors back on. the guest had said they are taking less from the government if they get more injured. i do not see how you are making a sacrifice. rightfully so you're taking less, but getting more injured
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people to use your services. the other thing i would like to explain -- it seems like the problem with hospitals and their billing system is you have so many bills that come in for just one type of service. you have professional bills, facility bills, and then you have your other bills. there are a lot of people billing. maybe you could do consolidated billing. if the speaker could be honest about how hospitals are funded and how much the government actually does subsidize for those who do not have health care guest: insurance thank you, sir. i am happy to enter all 3 and quickly. first of all, what hospitals do as part of yesterday's agreement, on the largest portion of these cuts -- the cuts to the annual medicare and medicaid of eight factors is that those cuts kick in next year. this is part of the final
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legislation. the cuts kick in next year. those dollars can be used to help fund the coverage that will then come back in the form of those new dollars i referenced in that you picked up on. but they will not come back for several years. it will take time for the regulatory process to make its way through, to go through different elements. the projection is that the coverage will not start to come until 2013. not in 2010. hospitals are very definitely helping to fund it that extended care rich. yes, more coverage comes back, but in very broad terms, if everything works as planned, hospitals will still have a significant level of uncompensated care. this new arrangement may cover about half of that.
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to the number of bills -- think of the number of bills as a good example, it is an unfortunate circumstance -- but a good example, of the number of separate entities and health care equation. each handles its own billing. we want to get to a much more integrated and connected system, not only from the point of view of better care connection and coordination, but also some of this administrative connection that i know is the paperwork burden and a maze. we're very grateful that the medicaid program takes care of so many of the nation's citizens who are in the lower economic strata. there is no question that without the medicaid program hospitals would be an even more financial distress as those individuals probably would not be able to pay their bills.
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on the other hand, and you operate any financial enterprise and you get paid less than the cost of providing that care, it makes for a very difficult financial balancing. that is the reason for the cost shift over to the private- sector, people with commercial insurance provided by their employer, purchase directly from an insurer buy you out of pocket -- that also is subsidizing the care of those who cannot afford to pay the whole bill. in the case of medicare, it is not targeted to an income level. it is targeted to people 65 and over. that also under pays hospitals on their cost. the american hospital association continues to advocate for more preventing from these government sources to decrease that cost shift to the private sector. host: the next question comes from a viewer in carlsbad caverns, california.
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caller: i am wondering if it is possible for the country to prevent and respond to the overcharging and expensive health care when the media takes so much advertising from some of his member organizations. the hospital's vice a much advertising in newspapers and influence. you will never see a medical malpractice trial covered in the newspaper. you hear about them. your is your about the trials from the standpoint that there were overleaf litigious. in fact, harvard studies have proven that most injured in hospitals never even discovered it. it is only about one from 70 people who gets to the point of seven. -- to the point suing.
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there is more money made. they do not lay on the extra surgery's for free. there is an incentive to our people. furthermore, when you see the media talk about extra tests -- they portrayed these unnecessary tests as if they are free. they're not. this is a money-making operation and the hospital. guest: let me address a couple of the point. first, on your point about advertising. yes, hospitals to advertise and do it for a couple of reasons. certainly to inform the public as to what services are available and how to access them. they also advertised for educational purposes, for public service purposes. whether or not the media sources with whom they placed their advertisements are swayed i think it's frankly a media hospital, not a -- a media
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question, not a hospital one. but hospitals use all kinds of avenues to get their message out. suddenly, about liability reform, the american hospital association believes firmly we do need reforms. both in the tort system as well as on an administrative basis. the threat of legal action is very real. the issue of defensive medicine is outhere and the public. it does drive additional utilization. we would like to see decker to. -- we like to see that address. we would like to seek administrative system where the patient and hospital can sort through with the issue is if there is the need for some sort of adjustment for payment.
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have it done without all the expense of the legal system. on the other hand, if the parties cannot agree, then there is the legal system to settle it. but we think a lot of this can be dealt with up from between the hospital and patient and family. we are definitely in favor of that reform. it was not part of this agreement is today, but also needs to be addressed. on the issue of complications, your right. the system does pay off on a fee-for-service basis. we have advocated moving that to a fixed payment system. part of our agreement announced yesterday is to experiment with those new systems. some are called bundling, paying a bundle to the hospital, and may beat in post-acute
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physicians, to bundle them so that there is a fixed amount. it would give the incentive to do it and do right. whatever the most effective treatment would be, it and the least costly one. but no one has done the rigid to the prime caller's point on separate bills -- no one has done that on an integrated system. some closed systems like the one in which it sound do take a fixed amount of money, but most communities are not organized that way. we like this pilot program so we can learn how to get there. host: when you listen to the debate on capitol hill there is much discussion about changing the emphasis to preventive care. rudest the leave hospitals? -- where does that leave hospitals?
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guest: if you only get paid for treating people, then the incentive is to tree. you would until there is a condition that needs to be treated. we want to see a change in the incentive so that there really is, maybe a bad term -- a business case for prevention. right now for most parties and help your system the incentives are to do things. what we want to do are the right things to prevent care in the first place, but have to figure out how to have the hospital still there and ready for those issues that are not prevention and lifestyle or ended. they might be trauma oriented. the nose? we have to figure out how to make that work. -- who knows? to go to our own framework if people want to look at the
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arkansas, mr. snyder, kindly resume the chair. the chair: the house is in the committee of the whole house on the state of the union for futh consideration of h.r. 2997, which the clerk will report by title. the clerk: a bill making appropriations for agricultural, rural development, food and drug administration and related agencies programs for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2010 and for other purposes.
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the chair: when the committee of the whole house rose on july 8, 2009 a request for a recorded vote for amendment number 7 printed in house report 111-191 had been postponed and the bill had been read through page 74, line 22. pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18 prork seedings will now resume on those amendments printed in house report 111-191 on which further proceed wrgs postponed in the following order. number one printed in part a by ms. delauro of connecticut, number two, number three printed in part b by mr. broun of georgia, number two printed in part b of mrs. blackburn of tennessee, number two printed in part c by mr. campbell of texas, number nine printed in part d by mr. flake of arizona, number four printed in part d by mr. flake of arizona, number
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12 printed in part d by mr. flake of arizona, number 7 printed in part b by mr. kingston of dwea. the chair will reduce to two minutes the time for any -- >> mr. speaker. parliamentary inquiry. the chair: the house will come to order. >> mr. speaker. the chair: the house will come to order. the gentleman will state his parliamentary inquiry. >> it's my understanding that the first amendment that will be considered is the delauro amendment which is a manager's amendment which incorporates a number of provisions, a number of provisions in fact that do legislate on an appropriations measure. is it not correct, mr. speaker,
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that within the rule, and the rule was h.r. -- was it 609? the rule? providing for consideration of this measure before the house, that all points were waived against any objection to legislating on an appropriations matter so in fact, mr. speaker, is it not correct that we are legislating on an appropriations measure with some of the provisions contained in this first amendment to be voteden on by the house, and in fact, that a provision of the rule does waive any point of order against that action? the chair: the first amendment, you are correct, the first amendment that we're -- we will
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be voting on is the manager's amendment by ms. delauro of connecticut. it was made in order, the chair does not interpret the content -- mr. mica: but it does in fact contain measures that are new and -- the chair: the gentleman is not stating a parliamentary inquiry. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number one. mr. mica: point of order. i believe this does -- the chair: the house will come to order. mr. mica: point of order. this does legislate on an appropriations measure, which i was denied the opportunity to do, but in fact they're doing it in this first amendment. the chair: the point of order is not timely. mr. mica: i appeal the decision of the chair. you guys are going to have this
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happen to you one of these days and we should have a little and we should have a little fairness in the house. the chair: the gentleman is not entitled to be recognized at this point for a point of order. mr. mica: i cannot hear you, the house is not in order. the chair: the gentleman has not been recognized -- >> the house is not in order. the chair: the house will come to order. the house will come to order. the gentleman is not entitled for recognition at this point to make a point of order. that is not subject -- that decision is not stouget an appeal. mr. mica: thank you, mr. speaker.
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the chair: the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number one offered by the gentlelady from connecticut, ms. delauro, chon the ayes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: part a, amendment number one, printed in house report 111-191, offered by ms. delauro of connecticut. the speaker pro tempore: a recorded vote has been requested. those in favor of a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 266, the nays are 161, the amendment is adopt the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number two offered by the gentleman from texas, mr. brady, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: part b, amendment number two, printed in house report 111-191, offered by mr. brady of texas. the chair: a recorded vote is requested. those in fare of a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen, a recorded vote is
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ordered. those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. members will record their votes by electronic device. s that two minute, i repeat, a two minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: the yeas are 344, the nays are 67, the amendment is agreed. to the unfinished business is the request for a railroaded vote on amendment number four offered by the gentlelady from west virginia, mrs. capito
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orange which further proceed wrgs postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voys vote. the clerk: amendment number four printed in house report 111-191, offered by mrs. capito of west virginia. the chair: a recorded vote is requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a record vote is ordered. those in favor of the amendment will vote aye, those opposed build vote no. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute, a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: the yeas are 423, the nays are three, the amendment is agrow goed to. the unfinished intizz the amendment offered by mr. broun chorning further proceed wrgs postponed and owhich the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number three, printed in house report 111-191, offered by mr. broun of georgia. the chair: a recorded vote is requested. those favoring a recorded vote will rise and be counted. . . those in fare of the amendment will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. members will record their votes by electronic device. once again that two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned
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the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 25, the nays are 299, the amendment is not agreed. to the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on the amendment baferede mrs. blackburn on which further proceedings were postponed, on which the noes ve pre-intrailed voice vote. the clerk: part b, amendment number one, offered by mrs. blackburn of tnessee. the chair: a recorded vote is requested. those favoring a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen a recorded vote is ordered. a those inose in favor of the amendment will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned
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the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 184 -- the chair:on on this vote the yeas are 195, the nays are 204. the amendment is not agreed to. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from texas, mr. hensarling, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment.
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the clerk: part e, amendment number 6 printed in house report 111-191 offered by mr. hensarling of texas. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of a request of a recorded vote will rise and be counted. those in favor say aye of the amendment will vote ll vote aye. those opposed will vote no. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute, a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: on this vote the yeas are 122, the nays are 307. the amendment is not agreed to. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number 2 printed in part c of house report 111-191, offered by the gentleman from california, mr. campbell, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: part c, amendment number 2 printed in house report 111-191 offered by mr. campbell of california. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request of a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded voorded vote ordered. those in favor will vote aye. those opposed will vote no. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is
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the chair: on this vote the yeas are 111, the nays are 320. the amendment is not adopted. the unfinished business is a request for a recorded vote of amendment number 9 offered by the gentleman from arizona, mr. flake, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: part d, amendment number 9 printed in house report 111-191 offered by mr. flake of arizona. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned
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the chair: on this vote the yeas are 115, the nays are 319. the amendment is not adopted. the unfinished business is a request for a recorded vote on amendment number 4 printed in pambings d of house report 111-191 offered by the
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gentleman from arizona, mr. flake, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the no, sir prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: part d, amendment number 4 printed in house report 111-191 offered by mr. flake of arizona. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute vote, a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: on this vote the yeas are 103, the nays are 328. the amendment is not agreed to. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number 12 printed in
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part d of house report 111-191 offered by the gentleman from arizona, mr. flake, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: part d, amendment number 12 printed in house report 111-191. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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vote, the yeas are 97, the nays are 333, the amendment is not agreed to. the unfinished vote is on the amendment offered by mr. kingston on which further proceed wrgs postponed. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: part b, house reported 111-1991, offered by mr. kingston of georgia. the chair: those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the
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the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 140, the nays are 292, the amendment is not agree tosmed the clerk will read. the clerk: this act may be cited as the agricultural, rural, and food and drug administration related appropriations act of 20 10. >> mr. speaker. the chair: the committee rises. >> mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: mr.
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chairman. the chair: the committee of the whole house on the state of the union had under consideration h.r. 2997. the speaker pro tempore: the chairman of the committee of the whole house on the state of the union reports the committee has had under consideration the bill h.r. 2997 and pursuant to house resolution 609 reports the bill back to the house with sundry amendments adopted in the committee of the whole. under the rule, the previous question is ordered. for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia rise? mr. westmoreland: parliamentary inquiry. the speaker pro tempore: gentleman will state his inquiry. mr. westmoreland: the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. the house will suspend until we have order in the house. members are asked to take a seat or take their conversations off the house
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floor. the house will continue to suspend until we have order in the house. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia. mr. westmoreland: is it true that under this rule we cannot get separate societies in the house on each amendment adopted in the committee of the whole? the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the rule, the chair will put the amendments en grosse. mr. westmoreland: so it is -- so is it true we will not get separate votes on the amendments passed in the committee of the whole? the speaker pro tempore: the chair will put the question in
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gross, pursuant to the rule. mr. westmoreland: i'm assume that's a no answer. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on adoption of the amendments. they will be put en grosse. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. the question -- the question is adopted. the question is on engrossment and third reading of the bill. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. third reading. the clerk: a bill making appropriations foring a cull curl, rural development, food and drug administration and related agencies programs for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2010 and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia rise? >> i have a motion to recommit at the desk. the speaker pro tempore: is the gentleman opposed to the bill? >> i am in its current form.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman qualifies. the clerk will report. the clerk: mr. kingston of georgia move to recommit with the following amendment, insert the following new section, regular order on -- >> the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the house will come to order. for what purpose does the gentlewoman from connecticut rise? ms. derather roe: i reserve a point of order on the gentleman's motion. the speaker pro tempore: the point of order is reserved. the clerk will read. the clerk: one, on october 6 -- ms. delauro: i make a point of order on the gentleman's motion, it's not germane. the speaker pro tempore: first the motion must be read. the clerk will read. the clerk: one, on october 6, 2000, the gentleman from wisconsin, mr. obey, made the following statement regarding the appropriations process, we have gotten so far from the
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regular order that i fear that if this continue the house will not have the capacity to return to the precedents and procedures of the house that has given true meaning to the term representative democksthism reason we have stuck to the regular order as long as we have in this institution is to protect the rights of every member to participate and when we lose those right we lose the right to be called the greatest deliberative body left in the world. two, on that same day, the gentleman from wisconsin, mr. obey, went on to saying i believe that this is incredible centralization of decision making in the hands of the staff and the house leadership offices, meaning that for most members, representing their districts in this body is a diminishing every day in terms of their ability to have a say in what goes on around here. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will suspend. the house will suspend until we have order in the house. some members indicate they're having difficulty hearing the clerk read.
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clerk will read. the clerk: three, on july 8, 2009, the house doopt rule governing consideration of this bill making appropriations for agricultural, rural development, and related agencies programs for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2010 that deafuated from the regular order by making in order no more than 13 amendments and by specifically prevents 39 members from offering amendments they had publicly indicated a desire to have debated. four, the following members were denied the right to participate in deliberations on this bill by having one or more of their amendments denied the right to be debated. the gentlewoman from illinois, ms. bean. the gentlewoman from tennessee, mrs. blackburn. the gentleman from texas, mr. brady. the gentleman from georgia, mr. broun. the gentleman from north
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carolina, mr. butterfield. the gentleman from california, mr. campbell. the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. carney. the gentleman from louisiana, mr. cassidy. the gentleman from utah, mr. chaffetz. the gentleman from texas, mr. conaway. the gentleman from connecticut, mr. courtney. the gentleman from oregon, mr. defawse. the gentleman from arizona, mr. flake. the gentleman from -- mr. beginning ree. the gentleman from texas, mr. hall. the gentleman from texas, mr. hensarling. the gentleman from new york, mr. high dinsfesm get from jaye, mr. beginningston. the gentleman from ohio, mr. kucinich. the gentleman from oregon, mr. lee. the gentlewoman from wyoming, mrs. lummis. the gentleman from florida, mr. mack. the gentleman from florida, mr. mccall. the gentleman from florida mr. murphy.
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the zpwrelt georgia, mr. price. the gentleman from florida, mr. putnam. the gentlewoman from florida, ms. shea port e. the gentleman from florida, mr. stearns. the gentleman from michigan, mr. stupak. the gentleman from kansas, mr. tiahrt. the gentleman from new york, mr. tonko. the gentleman from new york, mr. weiner. the gentleman from vermont, mr. welch. and the gentleman from virginia, mr. whitman. five, as each of these members represents approximately 650,000 americans, approximately 25 million denied their right to be represented because the restrictive rules supported by the rule from the gentleman from wisconsin pleasure obey, failed to follow the precedents and procedures of the house. mr. obey was correct that a true representative democracy is impossible when 25,350,000 americans have their representative of congress shut out of the legislative process.
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seven, as a result of their restrictive rule implemented by the democratic majority, the house was not allowed to vote or debate issues such as an amendment that would reduce spend big 1.7%, saving taxpayers $2.9 million. an amendment to prohibit an eligible individual from receiving food stamps, an amendment to end taxpayer subsidies for procedures. an amendment to prevent federal employees from being paid to do union activities in their official work hours. an amendment to permit agencies to purchase alternative fuels, an amendment to reduce the bill and the deficit by $4,800 ,00000.
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an amendment to prohibit taxpayer funded housing to illegal aliens, an amendment to support dairy farmers in the northeast, an amendment to support farmers hit by a natural disaster, an amendment to proiblet funds being spent on projects named after sitting members of congress, an amendment to ensure that the federal government works with state agencies on food safety issues. an amendment to protect whistleblower employees for retaliation for provide congress or the public with information, and an amendment to terminate taxpayer subsidies for oil producers. eight, the gentleman from wisconsin, mr. obey, was correct that the house loses the right to be called the greatest deliberative body left in the world if it refuses to even debate, let alone vote, on these issues. b, policy. it is the policy of the u.s. house of representatives that this bill should be reopened for amendment under the regular order procedures advocated by the gentleman from wisconsin,
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mr. obey, on october 6, 2000. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from connecticut rise? ms. delauro: i make a point of order against the motion to recommit because it is in violation of clause 2, rule 21 legislating. i ask for a ruling from the chair. the speaker pro tempore: does any member wish to be heard on the point of order? for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia rise? mr. kingston: i wish to be heard on the point of order and make the point that the gentlewoman has -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman may proceed. mr. kingston: i thank the gentleman and my colleague from connecticut for the opportunity to speak on this and i want to talk to the members of the house on why this amendment or why this motion to recommit is important to all of us. we are on the verge of passing or voting on a $123.8 billion bill which represents a 14% increase over last year's spending level in the backdrop
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of a nation that has an $11 trillion national debt. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman needs to confine his remarks to the point of order. the gentleman may proceed. mr. kingston: mr. speaker, this administration has spent nearly $2 trillion in deficit spending. now, what this motion to recommit does is says that we were not allowed to vote on 90 different amendments offered by democrats and republicans representing nearly 650,000 people each. these amendments, had we had the opportunity to vote on them, would have improved the bill. one of them, for example, was a 1% savings that -- the speaker pro tempore: the
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gentleman needs to confine his remarks to the point of order. the gentleman may continue. mr. kingston: mr. speaker, the motion does not change existing law. therefore the gentlewoman's point of order is invalid. the speaker pro tempore: the chair is prepared it to rule. for what purpose does the gentleman from florida rise? >> mr. speaker, i wanted to speak to the point. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized on the point of order. >> yes, mr. speaker, in order to properly address the point of order, i think it is important that we look at the house resolution, 609, which was adopted by the rules committee to set the order and the consideration of the legislation that's before the house today that also excluded a large number of amendments that were crafted, mr. speaker, to the
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objection, the same objection that's being raised here that in fact, that those amendments were legislating on an appropriations bill, which in fact is out of order because of the way this was crafted. now, the gentleman from georgia has in fact offered a motion that does contain some provisions that would change the law but only the appropriations which this -- which this part of the bill deals with and this point has been raised against the motion to recommit. so in fact what i was denied was the opportunity, mr. speaker, to offer one of the amendments and i believe the reading clerk, i couldn't hear, but i believe the reading clerk mentioned my name
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among those who were denied an amendment that would legislate -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman neeleds to confine his remarks to the point of order -- needs to confine his remark to the point of order. mr. mica: the point of order is that the rules committee crafted a rule and we adopted previous amendments, one by the gentlelady who is now objecting, that do -- that did in fact legislation on an appropriations matter. no different than what the gentleman from georgia is now attempting to do. the precedence of the house, mr. young, i talked to him earlier, he said he's been here 39 years and he's never seen appropriations handled in this manner. an unfair manner. again, i think that the point is that the gentleman from georgia is proceeding in good faith, in fact, in the order that has been presented by -- the speaker pro tempore: the
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chair will hear an argument on whether the proposed amendment violates clause 2 of rule 1, otherwise the chair is prepared to rule. the motion to recommit offered by the gentleman from georgia proposes an amendment addressing a policy regarding special orders of business for consideration of appropriation bills. that is not a matter of appropriation or limitation thereof. rather, it is wholly legislative in character. as such, it violates clause 2 of rule 21, the point of order is sustained, the motion is not in order. mr. mica: mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: if you were the gentleman from georgia rise? -- for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia rise? shall the decision of the chair stand as the judgment of the house? for what purpose does the gentlewoman from connecticut rise? ms. delauro: mr. speaker, i move to lay the appeal on the table. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to table. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. mr. kingston: mr. speaker.
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the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia rise? mr. kingston: on that i ask for a recorded vote. the speaker pro tempore: a recorded vote is requested. those favoring a recorded vote will rise. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the speaker pro tempore: on this vote, the yeas are 246, the nays are 179, the motion is adopted. without objection, a motion to reconsider is laid on the table. >> mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia rise? mr. kingston: i have a motion
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at the desk. the speaker pro tempore: the house will come to order. the house will suspend until all members take a seat or take their conversations off the house floor. the house will continue to suspend until all members take a seat or take their conversaons off the house floor. is the gentleman opposed to the will? mr. kingston: i am in its current form. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman qualifies. the clerk will report the motion. the clerk: mr. kingston of georgia moves to recommit the bill to the committee on appropriations with
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instructions -- the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will suspend. mr. kingston: i ask unanimous consent that the clerk dispense with the reading. the speaker pro tempore: is there objection? objection is heard. the clerk will read. the clerk: back to the house forthwithwith the following amendment. page 3, line 19, after the dollar amount insert reduce by $30 million. page line, after four, after the dollar amendment insert, reduce by $50 million. page five, line five, after the dollar amount instert reducely $50 million. page five line 11, insert $40 million. page 46, line 18 theambing dollar amount, insert, increased by $20 million. page 55, line 15, after the dollar amount insert, reduced by $20 million. page 68, line 21, strike $1,180
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million and insert $1,240 billion. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia is recognized for five minutes. mr. kingston: i yield to the gentleman from california. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. >> article one of section 8 of the united states institution says the congress shall have the power to provide for the general welfare of the united states. congress has the basic ability to provide water to its citizens. to say it bluntly -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman will suspend until we have order in the house. >> mr. speaker, -- mr. nunes: it's been 651 days since i warned this government of the imposed drought in california,
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the government-imposed drought. since then, the democrat leadership in this clint has sat back and watched the vibrant economy of the san joaquin valley detier yore ate to a level nearing that of a third world cubtry. despite this economic catastrophe, the democrat leadership in this country has remained silent. thankfully, around midnight on tuesday, mr. speaker, my friend from california, mr. calvert, offered an amendment during the energy and water appropriations markup, which restored the flow of water to communities. a 30-minute debate followed this. which included absolutely outrageous and outright threatful statements. one of my colleagues on the committee opined that california's water is critical to salmon and other endangered species like the killer whale. mr. speaker, i ask my colleagues, killer whales,
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orkas, live up here north of washington. mr. speaker, what do killer whales have to do with land-locked farmers way down here. how's this possible? then my colleague went on to say that the culprit is not the endangered species act but climate change, unquote. mr. speaker, what does climate change have to do with 40,000 people without jobs? i find it ironic that my colleague in 2003 didn't have the same concern when he supported the energy and water bill which overturned the endangered species act on the silvery mineau. in fact, 31 of my colleagues, democrat colleagues on the appropriations committee, supported the exact same bill in 2003.
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what a change for my democratic colleagues. the silvery minnow here and the delta smelt here are both three inch bait fish. another declared that the calvert amendment was a, quote, wish amendment. wish is certainly the right word to use. my constituents wish that the democrats in this body would do their job. the same member went on to threaten members of the committee that if they supported the calvert amendment they would lose their earmarks. it's amazing what happens around this place when the clock strikes midnight and they think no one is watching what people will say. my message to you is we are watching. i put the entire hearing up on youtube for everyone in the world to see, the pathetic
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excuses that were made in that committee that night. my colleagues have complained that california farmers are pushing fishermen out of work but the truth is the federal government put the salmon fishermen out of work. in fact, the federal government paid $100 million for the salmon fishermen not to fish. it doesn't take $100 million to solve the crisis in california, madam speaker, mr. speaker. it doesn't even take a penny. just turn on the pumps and restore the flow of water is all we're asking. it's ufrlt but the democrat majority has made it quite clear they're going to ignore their constitutional duty to provide for the general welfare of its citizens. the other night my good friend from idaho, mr. simpson, said during the debate, and i quote, the endangered species act wasn't written by god, it was written by man. if we can't make exceptions to it when necessary, what kind of representatives are we? unquote.
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the gentleman from idaho is correct. my constituents don't want your welfare, they want the democrat leadership in this body to do their job. mr. kingston: the gentleman from california is correct. the people from california want water, not welfare, and i withdraw the amendment. the speaker pro tempore: the motion is withdrawn. the question is on passage of the bill. under clause 10 of the rof the the yeas and nays are ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the speaker pro tempore: on
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this vote -- the speaker pro tempore: on this vote, the yeas are 266, the nays are 160, and the bill is passed. without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. for what purpose does the
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gentleman from florida rise? >> mr. speaker, reluctantly but on behalf of my potato farmers who were not addressed by -- the speaker pro tempore: does the gentleman have a motion? mr. mica: i do. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman must state a motion. mr. mica: i move that the house do now adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise?
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>> mr. speaker, by direction of the committee on rules, i call up house resolution 617 and ask for its immediate consideration. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the resolution. the clerk: house calendar number 86, house resolution 617. resolved that at any time after the adoption of this resolution, the speaker may, pursuant to clause 2b of rule 18, declare the house resolved into the committee of the whole house on the state of the union for consideration of the big h.r. 3081, making appropriations for the department of state, foreign operations, and related programs for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2010 and for other purposes. the first reading of the bill shall be dispensed with. all points of order against consideration of the bill are waived, except those arising under clause 9 or 10 of rule 21. general debate shall be confined to the bill and shall not exceed one hour equally divided and controlled by the chairman an ranking member of
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the committee of appropriations. after debate, the bill shall be considered for amendment under the five minute rule. points of order against the bill for failure to comply with clause 2 of rule 21 are waived. notwithstanding clause 11 of rule 18 except as provided under section 2, no amendment shall be in order except, one, the amendment printed in part a of the committee on rules accompanying this resolution, and two, the amendment printed in part b of the committee on rules. each such amendment may be offered only by a member designated in the report, shall be considered as read and shall be debated for five minutes equally controlled by a proponent and opponent and shall not be divided in the house or the committee of the whole. all points of order against such amounts -- amendments are waived except those arising under clause 9 or 10 of rule 21 and except that an amendment
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printed in part b of the committee on rules may be made at the appropriate point in the reading. at the conclusion they have debate the committee shall rise and report the bill back to the house along with such amendments adopt. the question of the amendments adopted shall be put to the house en grosse. without intervening motion except one motion to recommit with or without instructions. section two, after consideration of the bill for amendment, the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on appropriations or their designees each may offer one pro forma amendment to the bill for the purpose of debate which shall be controlled by think proponent. section 3. e chair may entertain a motion that the committee rise only if offered by the chair of the committee on appropriations or his designee.
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the chair may not entertain a motion to strike out enacting wordser of the bill as described in clause 9 of rule 18. section 4. during consideration of h.r. 3081, the chair may reduce to two minutes the minimum time for electronic voting under clause 6 of rule 18 and clauses 9 -- clauses 8 and 9 of rule 20. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for one hour. mr. cardoza: for purposes of debate only, i yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from florida, mr. diaz-balart. all time is for debate only. ski unanimous consent that all members have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks on house resolution 617. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. cardoza: i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. cardoza: house resolution 617 provides for consideration of h.r. 3081, the department of state, foreign operations and
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related programs appropriations bill for the fiscal year 2010 under a structured rule. the rule provides for one hour of general debate, equally divide and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the committee on appropriations. the rule waives all points of order against the bill and its consideration except for those arising under clause 9 or clause 10 of rule 21. the rule also waives points of order against provisions in the bill for failure to comply with clause 2 of rule 21. 24e bill makes in order the amendment printed in part a of the committee report and amendments printed in part b of the committee report accompanying this resolution. each amendment is debatable for 10 minutes. finally, the rule also provides one motion to recommit with or without instructions. mr. speaker, the legislation that we will consider today, h.r. 3081, funds the department of state, foreign ops, and related programs for fiscal
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year 2010. this bipartisan bill reflects four key priorities. it protects our national security and combats terrorism, it provides critical resources to meet global health and development challenges, it ensures adequate oversight and accountability of our foreign stearns and most importantly, reforms and rebuilds america's diplomatic and development capacity. in total, the bill provides 48.8 delsh $48.8 billion for fiscal year 2010. this is a $3.2 billion less than the president's request, and $1.2 billion below the fiscal year 2009 enacted level, including supplemental fund a reasonable level of funding in these unprecedented fiscal times. to protect national security and combat terrorism, the state foreign operations bill provides $2.2 billion to
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israel, provides $2.7 billion in assistance for afghanistan, and $1.5 billion for pakistan. and it provides $1.8 billion total in economic and security assistance for egypt and jordan two of our key allies in the middle east. it also requires a report on the status and progress of diplomatic efforts to prevent iran from ichoiring nuclear weapons and continues a reporting requirement on bilateral and mullateral sanctions against iran. further, it prevents the export-import bank from providing financing to any energy producers or refiners that -- refiners that contribute to iran's refined petroleum resources. it also continues to take aim on the war on drugs by setting aside $319 million for mexico and central america for
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countermarkets and law enforcement programs. it also includes $520 million for colombia to fight markets and criminal gangs and to promote alternatives to drug production. the state foreign ops bill makes great strides in increasing global health by providing funding increases for international h.i.v. aids treatment and provepks, tuberculosis and malaria prevention, safe water and hygiene and child and maternal health programs. these global health investments are critical, not just in saving lives oversea bus in protecting the lives of countless americans from disease. the state foreign operations bill also ensures that the united states continues to meet our moral and humanitarian obligations abrd. the bill provides funding for countries facing long-term countries facing long-term development challenges,

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