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the suspect in the ft. hood shooting can talk, but may never walk. major nidal hasan's lawyer tells us why. plus the president wants more answers on how hasan's links to a radical muslim group were handled. unspeakable acts of sex abuse on children. alleged performed by a 77-year-old father and his four sons. a sixth person how in custody as a search for bodies continues on a farm. then, a man is dying and he needs help. the priest who is guiding him is secretly his father. but now the mother says hey, forget the secret, the son needs money for treatment. all this hour on "morning
express." hoping you're having a very good friday. i'm richard lui. the army psychiatrist charged with murdering 13 people at ft. hood will probably never walk again. major nidal hasan's attorney says his client is paralyzed below the waist. you might remember a police officer shot him multiple times. yesterday president obama ordered a review of the handles of hasan's contact with a radical muslim cleric last year. the fbi says it was dismissed as innocent at the time. defense secretary robert gates warned against rushing to judgment. >> frankly, i deplore the leaks that have taken place, because people who are leaking are leaking what they know, which is one small piece of the puzzle. and what's more, they don't know whether or not what they're leaking might jeopardize a potential criminal investigation at trial. >> now those 13 counts of premeditated murder we mentioned earlier may have hasan eligible
for the death penalty if he is convicted. so the balloon boy's parents are due in court in about 30 minutes. they are expected to plead guilty and admit the whole thing, this thing, was a hoax. last month richard and mayumi heene said they thought their son was inside that balloon. the couple could face jail time now. and one former prosecutor explains why richard heene is facing felony, not misdemeanor, charges. >> they disrupted air traffic at denver international airport. there were national guard helicopters. the entire nation was riveted and terrified that this little boy was going to die. so i think this is really beyond the scope of one of these cases. it's really out of the box and warrants a far more serious punishment. >> richard heene turned himself in to sheriff's deputies yesterday. his wife is charged with a misdemeanor. again we are waiting for them to come to the court live and we will take you there to get those live pictures. we expect them to plead guilty. in about an hour the u.s.
attorney general is expected to announce the alleged 9/11 mastermind will be brought to new york for trial. just a short distance from ground zero. an obama administration official shade khalid shaikh mohammed, you see here, and four other gitmo detainees will be tried in civilian court instead of a military commission. >> i am absolutely convinced that khalid shaikh mohammed will be subject to the most exacting demands of justice. the american people will insist on it. my administration will insist on it. >> five other gitmo detainees are also expected to be transferred to be tried by military commissions. a sixth man was arrested in a disturbing child sex abuse case in missouri. the details still coming out about this horrific situation. a 77-year-old father, you see here, and his four sons, are already in custody, but did not
enter a plea yesterday. according to the court documents obtained by affiliate kshb, the alleged victims are adults, now, and came forward in august. also, the sheriff is continuing searching for possible bodies linked to this case. now you're thinking about buying a home or refinancing your current one, we have some good news for you. mortgage rates fell to rock bottom levels. jen westhoven joins us right now. every little tip affects that mortgage payment that we have each and every month and we have an adjustable. >> it can. it can be $100. $50. but every month that adds up to a lot over 30 years. so, mortgage rates back under 5%. again. so that is some good news in a bad economy. it motivates people. the benchmark 30 year fixed rate mortgage 4.91%. the low was in the spring. it was 4.78%. but we're not too far off that. and when we get under the 5% mark, a lot of people get off their doves, shall we say. they think, hey, i'm going to do
the work, get down there and figure it out. that could make a difference if i refinance. some people decide to move. >> these are historic lows, if we take a look at what some folks were paying 30 years ago. >> these are lows we haven't seen like thins there was a gi bill and people were coming back from the war. >> that's perspective. it appears a missing 5-year-old girl has been spot on hotel surveillance video but the man charged in her kidnapping is not the guy with her on the tape. plus they still don't know where shaniya davis is. she disappeared from her home in fayetteville, north carolina, tuesday. and her dad made a desperate plea for her safety. >> i just ask that they bring her home safe. you know, i miss her and love her very much. if you're listening to daddy, i miss you so much, honey, and i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up, and you don't give up either, honey. >> this is the man charged in this case. he's the mother's boyfriend. according to the manager of the
mobile home where shaniya lives. he says he's not guilty. detectives have identified the man we saw earlier on the tape, but they are not sure of a connection between him and shaniya's family. bob, that was a tough, tough spot of the father pleading for his daughter's return. i was asking you earlier, i looked at these numbers behind you and i said is this from one day? and you said, well not quite. >> not quite. >> a day and a half. >> totals? >> this is huge. remember this came ashore as a tropical storm a couple days ago across the gulf. now it's a hostal storm up above cape hatteras. been pumping in rain and wind. langley air force base in virginia, 10.38 inches of rain. and still comes down at times today. so you're not over with it yet. even newport news, about 8.66. surf city in north carolina side, 7.5 inches of rain. all records for the day, obviously and the rain continues. here's your low. you can see the clouds spiraling around this thing.
but you have high pressure to the north. that means the high pressure and the low pressure difference getting the winds right off the ocean again today and it's wreaking havoc right now across laguardia, newark you're looking at about 2 1/2 hour delays because of the gusty winds. the rain is also out there. but most of it is offshore. with just pockets of light showers rolling on through the jersey shore back in towards places like virginia. voesal flood warnings are definitely up and out from sandy hook past cape may into the delmar have peninsula and lower parts of virginia beach. that's ones apektd. the other aspect is the wind. look at some of these wind gusts. oceana, virginia, 75 mile per hour gusts. that's hurricane strength. today winds will be half as fast but you're still looking at beach erosion. let me show you this video coming out from the new jersey shore. this is wildwood, south of the atlantic city area. flooding. we have erosion. we have all this going on across the region. cape may county is under a state of emergency right now. look at the flooding right there. that is coastal flooding at its worst. >> what was this guy doing here?
>> he's not using his head. >> no, he's not. >> you've got to be careful with floodwaters like that. especially you're talking about almost a tidal surge. that's the wind getting pushed up with the ocean. unreal. >> you've got a witch's brew of a situation there. >> it's a mess. jersey shore gets hammered worse by nor'easters than hurricanes at times. >> of course tropical concerns. bob will be back in about five minutes. will sarah palin be going rogue at the dinner table this thanksgiving? stick around and hear oprah ask a tough question about levi johnston, the father of palin's grandchild. and tichkerring on the computer keeps a man out of jail.
>> you know, that's a great question. and -- it's lovely to think that he would ever even consider such a thing. because, of course, you want -- he is a part of the family. and you want to bring him into the fold and kind of under your wing. and he needs that, too, oprah. i think he needs to know that he is loved. and he has the most beautiful child. and this can all work out for good. it really can. we don't have to keep going down this road of controversy and drama all the time. we're not really into the drama. we don't really like that. we're more productive. we have other things to concentrate on and do. >> does that mean yes he is coming or no he's not? >> palin was anything but upbeat, though, when talking about her interview with katie couric during the 2008 presidential race. what she admits about that in about 30 minutes. soon, very soon your bank will no longer be allowed to automatically charge you overdraft fees. jen westhoven's been giving a
hallelujah in the back every once in awhile. >> yeah, because you're in the driver's seat now. if you want to keep paying those fees go right ahead. you just opt right in there. but for people like me, and a lot of other people out there who are saying hallelujah on facebook page it means the days are over of you paying a $35 fee, $35 for a $2 mistake. so that may never happen again. it won't start until july 1st. but the fed just announced that as a new rule. so it means, now it's not for things like checks. it means that a bank can't just automatically put you into their overdraft program where they are basically, they are hoping they're going to make some big money when you make a little mistake. so this only works for an overdraft on your debit card when you're at a store, for example. and i've had, you know, a few times, people make mistakes. human error it's called. where you buy something small and obviously you weren't sure about that. or, it could be at an atm. maybe you're in a different city and you can't see your balance because it's not your own bank's
atm. this will not apply to check. a lot of people are willing to pay overdraft fees when it comes to checks. it might be a little embarrassing in the store, they say oh, your card's been declined but you can use some other method of payment. >> starts in july? >> starts in july. you might have to take some action. you have to opt in. but sometimes they have these things where you opt in by not saying anything. so just be careful about that. >> i'm going to opt in, then. i'm going to get ready for july. >> now here's somebody writing on our facebook page. thank you, federal reserve, for looking out for us. banks are the biggest undercover robbers. you know, christine romans said that americans spend more on bank overdraft fees in a year than they do on vegetables. >> wow. >> all of us. >> business reporter from sister net work cnn. >> right. >> and just a quick one, iphone, verizon, fortune magazine's got two sources coming out from the manufacturing chain that say, yeah, maybe by this summer. that they're already building a phone that's verizon compatible. >> so, our own jen westhoven may hop on that bandwagon soon.
>> there's a lot of people who, verizon is one of the biggest cell phone networks in the country. >> choice is what it is. let's talk about a bank robbing mom. a minivan driving soccer mom has been charged with a string of bank robberies in southern california. jen westhoven, get the minivan, let's go. >> put the money in the minivan. >> agents arrested a 37-year-old mother of five after connecting her red minivan to the crimes. this is surveillance video of roxanne penick. local media report that the family was having some money problems. the fbi said she hit at least four banks. good imitation but tough times for her, obvious. a priest's affair with a woman was a closely guarded secret until the son they had together learned he only had weeks to live.
they're in court right now. the parents of the balloon boy are in colorado court. remember they claimed they were afraid their son was stuck in a runaway balloon last month. now, you can see the gentleman with the greasy hair, shall i describe, the shiny hair. that is richard heene we believe. mayumi heene i don't see in the picture. we assume that she might be right beside him. of course she's a little bit shorter. they're saying that this whole balloon thing was a hoax. richard heene expected to plead guilty to attempting to influence a public servant. that is a felony. his wife is expected to plead guilty to a misdemeanor. they both could face a couple of weeks in jail for this. and there is that famous silver balloon, again, and the video that was taken by the very family. and again, the suspects on the left hadn't side. a mother has exposed her secret, and by the way we're going to stick with that story for you, what's happening in the court and we'll come back. telling you now about a mother
that has exposed her secret affair with a priest because of their dying son. 22-year-old nathan halbach has terminal brain cancer. when he was a baby, his mother agreed to keep his father's identity private in exchange for child support from the priest's order. now, she went public, in this case, claiming the church would not help with her son's sky-high medical bills and the cost of an eventual funeral. since then the church said it will help. in september the priest apologized for breaking his vows, saying he's regretted this for a long time. you got to eat your words here mr. football coach. evidently, three of your players were arrested, and this after you claimed something before that happened. >> yeah. >> said something. >> it was kind of funny, richard. on wednesday, tennessee coach had just bragged about his program, having no off-the-field issues. well then on thursday, three of his recruits, including a couple prized ones, were arrested for
attempted armed robbery. freshman richardson, jackson and mike edwards. police say two of them approached a parked car. when they drove off police say they pulled the car over and found an air pellet gun in the car with these men in it. an attorney, though, says that they are innocent, or one of the men is innocent. the school is investigating. and the windy city is fuming today. the chicago bears taking on san francisco. little thursday night football. this was not ready for prime time. the bears traded everything but the kitchen sink for their quarterback jay cutler in the off-season. last night he threw a career high five interceptions. the bears had a chance very late. the end of the game, 7, 6, 5, 4, last play of the game, cutler intercepted. bears lose 10-6. >> you're saying a kitchen sink would have done better? >> his game is definitely down the game. james is saying i'm not worthy. the king announced out of respect for michael jordan he will stop wearing number 23 and switch to number 6 next year.
he said so after the cavs win over the heat with m.j. there courtside. james thinks, in fact, that nobody said wear number 23 in spite of the fact that he can dunk like that. 6 was his number in the olympics. another bizarre guinness world record. sorry, just had to let that sink in. britain's manjit singh set a record for pulling a double decker bus by his fair for almost 70 feet, and man, i don't know what conditioner that guy uses, but he's definitely in line for some endorsements. look at the guy. >> i know. i thought he had something bad to eat, actually. it was just like ooh! >> and with that. >> we better let you go. take the reins here. that was a hilarious story. thank you, sir. by the way, thank you, facebook. a man arrested for armed robbery is out of jail because of an unusual alibi here. he was updating his facebook status when the robbery happened in brooklyn.
rodney bradford was actually 13 miles away on a computer at his dad's apartment. bradford was picked out of his lineup but his lawyers used witnesses and the facebook time stamp to prove his innocence. bob, you were saying unfortunately for folks that are at the airport right now, they're stuck listening with -- to folks like us for the next 2 1/2 hours or so. >> i gave you the line, you blew it. >> next time, write it down for me. >> you're absolutely right. let me show you flight explorer. we have a lot of action going on across newark or laguardia. if you don't like listening to guys like me you're going to have to do it for an extra 2 1/2 hours. the rain come nothing new jersey. newark you have laguardia, jfk down below it. we have 2 1/2 hour delays currently at laguardia. newark, 2 1/2 hour delays. right now in philadelphia, 80 minute delay. boston, seattle, same thing. looking at this all day long, richard. more in just a bit. >> they're worried about listening to guys like me, not you.
in just 30 minutes the u.s. attorney general's is expected to announce that five 9/11 suspects will be brought to new york for trial, just a short distance from ground zero. an obama administration official says the alleged mastermind, khalid shaikh mohammed and four others will be tried in civilian court. police say new video of the missing girl shows her with a man at a hotel shortly after she disappeared from her home. police have identified him and charged another man in this case. they will not say how the two men are connected and they still don't know where 5-year-old shaniya davis is. those are some of the stories we're watching for you. right now we take you to some live pictures coming out of the
courtroom where the parents of balloon boy are in court in colorado. their hearing is about to get under way. you might remember in this story, they claimed they were afraid their son was stuck in a runaway balloon last month. i think if you look at the picture on the left-hand said you can see mayumi heene in the center. all the way to the background directly to her right is her husband richard heene. also leaning forward. this is a line shot so a lot of the heads are just in a hoe. on the right-hand side is video of the silver balloon itself which they are now saying is a whole hoax. richard heene is expected to plead guilty to attempting to influence a public servant. that is a felony. his wife is expected to plead guilty to a misdemeanor. they both could face a couple of weeks in jail for this. it hasn't started as of yet. but of course we're going to keep our eyes on that hearing right here on hln. president obama is in japan this morning to talk, among other things, about rebuilding afghanistan. prime minister yukio hatoyama said japan would agree to provide civil assistance but
would probably no longer allow u.s. military aircraft to refuel. earlier a u.s. air force base in alaska mr. obama told troops he would carefully weigh sending more forces to afghanistan. >> i will never hesitate to use force to protect the american people or our vital interests. but i also -- i also make you this promise. i will not risk your lives unless it is necessary to america's vital interests. >> mr. obama's trip will take him from japan to singapore, china and south korea over eight days. the man accused of kidnapping an 11-year-old girl and holding her captive for 18 years has apologized. phillip garrido wrote to a california tv station saying he wanted to apologize to every human being for what has taken place. garrido and his wife are accused of holding jaycee dugard in a compound behind their california home. they pleaded not guilty. and new this morning, the top lawyer at the white house has resigned in the first shake-up on the president's
senior staff. democratic sources tell cnn that greg craig has or was pushed out because of a dispute over closing the prison at guantanamo bay, cuba. craig was the driving force behind the president's controversial promise to close gitmo by january of next year. the white house now says it cannot make the deadline because it does not know where to put 200 terrorism suspects held there. now to an ohio mom that's accused of taking her kids shoplifting. police say surveillance tape shows the woman and her two children stealing clothes. but when security guard confronts them, a fight breaks out. police say two more adults got out of the getaway vehicle to join the melee. the adults were arrested. the 8-year-old boy and 10-year-old girl are in protective custody but had to see all of that. bob van dillen joins us right now. friday and we're hoping that you got some good news for us. but i don't think everybody's going to have good weather. >> no. the northeast right now, i
showed you all the delays. newark, laguardia, philadelphia, all about two hours to 2 1/2 hours at this point. what about the rest of the country? a couple of areas of low pressure. both of them are in canada but they're dropping cold fronts back in towards the plains. drives in towards denver area, as well. the snow out there for around denver. we have the rain for you, getting into northern minnesota. and it's heavy at times right now. not quite in towards mip. should fall apart before it reaches you. but that line stretches back over to the west and gets into higher elevations and it condenses out as snow. we're going to see snow, heavy at times, mainly downi-70 between utah and colorado. it's going to be heavy at times today. 6 to 12 inches of snow overnight tonight. the blue shaded counties are winter weather advisoradvisorie. here's that grand junction radar. it's really been filling up over the last couple of hours. everything you see here is falling as snow. so it's heavy at times. western colorado, highest elevations are going to get that in utah, too.
pacific northwest, it's all rain for the valleys. it's all snow for the higher elevations. the cascades, in towards the olympics. watch for a lot of snow to pile up here over the next couple of hours. three to six inches above 4,000 to 5,000 feet. maybe even a little bit lower than that. more details in a bit. that is your forecast. richard, have a good weekend. >> you, too, man. a teenageary show of support for his favorite football team is causing a bit of a buzz. his school gave him an ultimatum about his bengals haircut. you might be surprised what his folks think. plus bernie madoff's personal possessions are hitting the auction block. and this isn't anything like your neighborhood yard sale.
balloon boy. you remember that story that we were following for you. very intensely, this silver balloon, and they're going to admit, we expect, both the father and the mother, richard and mayumi, that they are guilty. so we're going to be listening in to that. stay with us here on hln all afternoon as we find out exactly what they will be saying here for you. an eighth grader got himself suspended for showing his team spirit. quite a haircut. >> yeah, kudos to his barber, richard. >> very well skilled. >> unfortunately for justin reader, he says he was went right to the principal's office for showing up with a bengals helmet design on his head. he was told shave it or get a suspension. now, he's standing by his team but administrators say they have given dustin warnings about his hair before. dustin says he's done nothing wrong. >> it's just a haircut. it ain't drugly related. it ain't got no guns. it ain't got no cuss words. and stuff like that. so why are they worried about
it? >> now, dustin's parents say the school is being unfair, and they are proud of him. but, richard, he is in an in-school suspension. so it's not like he's staying home. he's still there learning. he just has to be away from the other kids. >> straight, blunt talk from dustin. >> thanks rafer. the head of an ethics program at harvard university is defending the decision to invite eliot spitzer to lecture there. the former new york governor resigned after court documents showed he was client nine for a high-priced call girl. the harvard professor said spitzer was, quote, the most important living prosecutor on a wide range of corruption. he was really feared on wall street, richard. >> he was. >> you talk about the time, very surprising he was known for that hard hand, if you will. >> he was one of the few people who would, you know, who would say anything at times when washington was like, hey, back off. back off. anyway. >> so let's head to an auction, why don't we, you and i. bernie madoff's items. i don't know if we can afford
any of them, though. >> i think you probably can. >> cannot. >> no, i think stomp of them aren't going to go for too much. but the point is, it really is all for a good cause. >> pay back all those folks. >> that's right. it's all going to go for the victims. here's what you could afford, the boogie board. >> okay, there you go. >> boogie boards from their beach homes. i think i saw estimates they would be about $80. some of this stuff, we're talking about jewels, these are some earrings that likely belonged to ruth madoff, his wife. designer handbags. fur coats. post-it notes. that's one of the things. here you're looking at this is a mets team jacket that was emblazoned, obviously, with the madoff name. i don't think anybody would be wearing that to the stadium lately. you'd get a drink poured over your head. >> yeah. >> still could be a collector's item. and you know, it really does go to a good cause. that's one of his rolexes. is that the plural of rolex? >> rolexi? >> that's a really interesting story. this is called the prisoner's watch, i believe.
it's just ironic that it turned out he's a prisoner. but the prisoner watches were made for prisoners of war. they were made with steel and not gold so that the camp guys wouldn't take it away from them. the guards. >> interesting. >> little back story there. all the money, he has 17 rolexes. all the money will go to madoff's victims. auction organizers say they hope it will raise about half a million dollars. >> we're talking about billions of dollars he bilked from people? >> billions. billions. it's just a little bit they can get back. thanksgiving, what are you doing, are you cooking? >> i can't cook worth nothing. >> come on. >> i'm going to go crash somebody's house. >> you should know. i don't cook everything. i don't cook everything. but i do cook thanksgiving. i love it. so this is a story for everybody out there if you're going to cook or you got to pay for it. you want to pay attention. it will cost a little bit less this year. for ten people, about $43 according to the american farm bureau. they went out to grocery stores across america. turkey, a little bit cheaper this year. the big reason is because milk is cheaper. but, pumpkin pie, a little more expensive.
if you make it from a can, and from a frozen pie crust. so just don't and you won't have to pay more. >> i'm working thanksgiving, and they always give us a great meal right here at hln. >> oh, really? >> they do. you get to ease nice, get nice and fat for when you're on air. works out really well. >> come over to my house when you're done. >> all right, thanks a lot, jen. we have another clip for you from sarah palin's interview with oprah. palin talks about everything from the presidential campaign to her relationship with levi johnston. she also got surprisingly candid about her interview with katie couric. that famous interview during the 2008 race. remember a lot of people thought it really hurt her image. and here is what she said. >> let's talk about the interview with katie couric. >> ha, ha, must we? >> yes. >> okay, okay. >> you talk about it in the book. so i assume everything is fair game. you do say that it wasn't your best interview. >> but, here again -- >> do you think that was a
seminole, defining moment for you, that interview? >> i did not. neither did the campaign. that is why segment two and three and four and maybe five were scheduled. the campaign said, right on, good, you're showing your independence, this is what america gets to see. and i'm thinking, if you thought that was a good interview. i don't know what a bad interview was. because i knew it wasn't a good interview. >> the entire interview with oprah airs on monday. that's the day before palin's memoir "going rogue" hits the stories. >> i absolutely agree. >> okay, you know, at the top of the hour, the u.s. attorney general is expected to announce that the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks is to be tried in new york, just a short distance from ground zero. that is our afternoon "your views" question and we talk about "your views" questions with richelle carey. she's going to analyze that for us. >> i am. something i think a lot of people are going to want to weigh in on, richard.
here's the topic, as you said, khalid shaikh mohammed and four other gitmo detainees will be tried in civilian court here in the u.s., instead of a military commission. president obama, he's in japan right now, made this comment about the upcoming trial. >> i am absolutely convinced that khalid shaikh mohammed will be subject to the most exacting demands of justice. the american people will insist on it. my administration will insist on it. >> also, five other gitmo detainees are expected to be transferred to be tried by military commissions. here's the question. do you agree with trying the suspects in new york in civilian court? do you think it's the right thing to do? maybe you'd prefer that they face military justice back at guantanamo bay. even though that's the goal is to close down guantanamo bay for
the obama administration. maybe you prefer a military commission instead of a civilian court. for these people charged in the 9/11 attacks. e-mail us at cnn.com/hln. call us at 1-877-tell-hln. you can also text at hlntv. standard text rates apply. or give me two seconds to post the question on my facebook page and dive into the discussion. >> you can talk live with richelle about that on-air. doctors say a little girl is doing well after a rare and complicated surgery. they gave her three new organs in one day.
anthony sowell, the man who owns the house where eleven bodies were found pleaded not guilty to charges that led to the investigation at his home. these charges are connected to an alleged attack on women, and police investigating that discovered the bodies. the video that you're seeing is from earlier this month. police have expanded their search now of his house to a nearby property.
they took away several evidence bags from there. universal pictures has reportedly agreed to a $20,000 settlement over its latest movie "the fourth kind." >> this film is a dramatization of events that occurred october 2000. everything in this movie is supported by archive footage. some of what you're about to see is extremely disturbing. >> the trailer claims that the movie is based on real events. an alaska lawyer says the studio posted fake online news articles to try to back that up but used the names of real publications. seven media outlets sued. universal had no comment on the reported settlement. the nfl reportedly stopped a guerrilla marketing campaign aimed at getting players to sell products during touchdown celebrations. here's rafer weigel with more on that story. >> you a fan of the captain morgan's rum? >> i am, actually. here and there. >> that's why we call you the captain. no, that's not why. but in this story, yahoo! sports
claims that the rummaker wanted players to do the captain morgan's pose after scoring a touchdown. the win scythe says the league learned of it after the eagles' brent celek did it on sunday. and even appeared to get some help from teammate jason avon. there it is. no it's the right leg. celek denies intentionally striking the pose. but yahoo! said -- nfl very strict about endorsements during these games. when michael vick and the eagles go through san diego on sunday, he has an invitation to see one of the dogs rescued from his dog fighting ring. this is iggy, who was found chained in the woods at vick's home. iggy is doing okay but he's very skittish. as can you see, this is how he reacted when the camera crew showed up. he's not comfortable around strangers. the dog's owner said vick really has turned his life around. he should visit the dog. vick declined a similar invitation when the eagles traveled to oakland last month. now it is time for our true champions this week. it is hines ward of the
pittsburgh steelers. recently, ward hosted some biracial kids from his native south korea. ward whose mother is korean and his dad is african-american, says growing up in south korea there, he was teased a great g. one kid said that the cultural taboo of being biracial there had him actually contemplating suicide. but by meeting ward and spending time with him, he's completely changed his outlook on life. and lastly, several guinness world record was recently broken. this group was trying to become the largest mixed bikini parade in australia. 235 people, 144 of which were men, wearing speedos, or what the australians call bujis descended on the sydney oprah house, but get, they didn't break the record, the record was 281, so they were 47 people short. they couldn't get 47 more people to put on a bikini.
>> and it is very hot down there right now. >> you would know. you're the man of mystery. did i see you in that video? >> i don't have a buji. no bujis for richard. >> and with that -- >> thank you, rafer. a man who said his 6-year-old son was stuck in a runaway balloon has pleaded guilty. we've been watching this courtroom for you this morning. richard heene has pleaded guilty. his wife, mayumi, also in this colorado court. his wife is expected to plead guilty to a misdemeanor. we'll be listening to that. stick with us here on hln. details, coming up. an arizona toddler is cover recov recovering from able organ transplant. the little girl was born without a small intestine, but on monday she got a new liver, pancreas, and small intestine in a rare seven-hour surgery. >> so thankful that medicine has come this forward to be able to provide people with options as far as being able to receive a
transplant, especially for small intestines. i never even knew that could happen. so i'm very, very thankful. >> doctors say the first year will be critical here, but she's doing well so far. good thing. the state department has a gnaw warning if you're traveling overseas. where, they say, there's an increased threat of an al qaeda attack.
right now on "showbiz tonight," carrie prejean blows her stack on live tv. >> larry, you're being inappropriate. >> tonight, the must-see video of the controversial former beauty queen threatening to walk out on "larry king live". >> you're being inappropriate. >> larry: okay, i -- >> okay? >> the explosive fallout. was carrie totally out of line? and does she look absolutely ridiculous?
a "showbiz tonight" exclusive. donald trump's fired up response today to carrie's tantrum after she dissed him big-time. and what he's telling us about carrie's big dis. donald trump one on one today with our brooke anderson in the exclusive headline-making interview you will see only on "showbiz tonight." and country takes on kanye. ♪ mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be kanye ♪ >> tonight, taylor swift's new revenge on kanye west. tv's most provocative entertainment news show starts right now. hello. i'm a.j. hammer broadcasting tonight and every night from new york city. >> hello, everyone. i'm brooke anderson coming to you from hollywood. and tonight, the beauty blows her stack. >> this was unbelievable. there was remarkable fallout
today from carrie prejean's incredible, and i think, downright embarrassing tantrum, live on cnn's "larry king live," threatening to walk off the show. >> larry: did you hear the question, carrie? >> excuse me? >> larry: did you hear the question? >> no, i can't hear you. >> i didn't hear the question and i can't hear you, but i'm answering your question. wait, there's more. so much more that you will hardly believe what we're about to show you. it made for big news breaking today. carrie prejean just got slammed today for her hissy fit on "larry king live," after the conservative family values beauty queen was asked about the solo sex tape that she now admits to making, claiming she sent it to her boyfriend when she was just 17 years old. hold on just a second. today, that boyfriend is reportedly claiming that carrie is lying, that she was actually 20 years old when she made the tape and he accuses her of trying to get him to lie about that. and in a "showbiz tonight" exclusive today, donald trump
went one on one with us, responding to carrie's claim that he humiliated beauty pageant contestants and telling us exclusively what he thinks of carrie big meltdown on live tv. joining me tonight, whitney casey, author of "the man plan." and tonight in hollywood, carlo diaz, a correspondent for "extra." carrie prejean's brand-new interview with larry king was just astounding. i was sitting will watching it live as it happens and was thinking, holy moly, i can't believe this is going on. larry asked carrie a simple question, why she settled her breach of contract lawsuit with the miss california usa legislation. larry asked the question, watch what happens. >> larry: so what you're saying is, in mediation, it was discussed why you were mediating? >> larry, it's completely confidential. and you're being inappropriate. >> larry: okay -- >> okay?
>> larry: "inappropriate king live" continues. >> yes. >> larry: detroit, hello. >> caller: hi. i'm calling from detroit. i'm a gay man and i love pageants. i'm sure that you, carrie, have got great gay friends that helped you possibly win. what would you give them as advice if they wanted to get married? >> larry: did you hear the question, carrie? did you hear the question? is she leaving because i asked what motivated the settlement? >> excuse me? >> larry: did you hear the question? >> no, i can't hear you. >> larry: you took the mike off. if you put the mike on, we can hear you. >> yeah. i think that you are being extremely inappropriate right now and i'm about to leave your show. >> yeah, i'm going to call that a temper tantrum, but you know what i love, she's smiling the whole time because she's a beauty queen, after all. carlos, was carrie just out of
line? are you with me on that? >> i felt like i was watching the tv show "v," where the part she says, larry, don't ask me any questions that will paint me in a negative light. and just like in "v," the true monster comes out. it's very funny. she's all about freedom of speech, that's her big thing. real close of freedom to speech there, carrie, is freedom of the press. and you can go on all the shows you want and have your own agenda and say what you can and can't ask. no, you don't do that to larry king. larry asks you what he wants to ask you. you've been around for how long? you can't control larry king and i think she came off looking pathetic. >> and if you really listen to what larry was asking, he wasn't asking her to breach whatever confidentiality agreement agreed. remember, it was just yesterday carrie, i think, just made a fool out of herself on "the view." today, the ladies of "the view" had field day what happened on "larry." >> that phone call was on gay and i want to trap you. if a question came through, i
love you and sarah palin more than life itself, she would have taken the call. >> she had no idea who was on that call before the caller started talking to her. >> but she's also got to be fair. she's also got to be fair. and we had her on the show. we asked legitimate questions and maybe they were not the most comfortable, but she was a little bitchy, i have to say. and we didn't start out like this. >> whitney, is whoopi right, carrie's tantrum, it really showed her true colors, is what she went on to say there. >> i'm sorry, a.j., that was a really inappropriate question you just asked me, excuse me, i'm going to have to -- no! seriously, though, this was some great television. i was entranced by it. what i will say, i thought, too, a.j., it was interesting that she couldn't hear, but she could hear. she like every blond has esp-n. but besides all that tom foolery, i thought it was really
interesting, and you saw elisabeth hasselbeck do it, i don't know what it is about the right, but it's this finger-pointing thing. she almost said, you're inappropriate with the finger-pointi finger-pointing. it made me think about sarah palin. and now i go online and read, they're pals, prejean and palin are pals. it's all about being inappropriate. >> whitney, don't pailinize her. donald trump happened to be watching the show last night. and today on "showbiz tonight," in an exclusive interview, he did not hold back one bit on what he thinks of little miss ex-california. this is a woman who bashed donald trump in her new book. brooke anderson, come back in here, because you got that exclusive today. >> that's right, a.j. i asked trump what he thought of carrie prejean's outrageous temper tantrum. watch this. >> i actually was watching -- i'm a big fan of larry king and i was watching this. and i was very surprised to see
it, because she was talking about how inappropriate he was. inappropriate is more of a sexual term, as far as i'm concerned. i mean, inappropriate, he asked a very, very easy question and i was surprised that she just didn't say, hey, listen, i can't answer that question. instead, she wants to walk off the stage. it was very surprising. it was really very strange to watch that. it was too bad. i felt badly for her, actually. >> he felt badly for her. i was a little bit surprised he said that. carlos, i thought that he'd be a lot harsher, didn't you? >> yeah. and you're thinking the same way i was thinking when i talked to him the other day, he's being very diplomatic, but he's a genius in that way. and i'll tell you why. because if he starts bashing the girls that go out for the miss usa pageant, no one will want to go out for the pageant. and he's a smart man and he owns the pageant and he wants to keep generating money. so he is being very diplomatic in this case. but i think, at one point, he's got to go all rosy o'donteie o'n
her at some time. >> he is a smart business man and is being very careful with his words. and coming up, yul see the rest of my "showbiz tonight" exclusive with druonald trump. a.j., i've got his outrageous reaction to her sex tape as well. >> i want to hear that. and the sex tame controverpe co brooke, got even hotter today. new shocking revelations as carrie prejean's ex-boyfriend speaks out for the first time. this was the guy who was reportedly at the receiving end of carrie's sex tape. he actually was, so she says. carrie claims she was 17 when she sent the sex tape to him. but he tells tmz she'si lying about how old she was. >> how old was she? >> she was 19 when i was out there. the videos poured in all the way in to just shy of -- gosh, i mean she had to be into 21 --
being 21 years old. yeah, i got a call from carrie, basically screaming at me, asking me why -- why did i do this? and then she, basically, at that point, said, will you tell them i was 17? >> how did you respond when she said "will you say i was 17"? >> i said, hell, no, i won't. >> whitney, if what her claims are true and carrie really was 21, will anyone have any reason to believe anything she ever says again? >> no, that just started with being miss california. i'm sorry. but i'm saying this. like, this guy, let me just defend -- he's kind of a louse. he is a bit of a louse to come out and bring all of this out. it is entertaining for all of us, yes, and great for her book sales, as we talked about yesterday, but it's kind of a jerky thing for him to do. and really, why is he doing it? we kind of have to ask that. >> no, that's a good point. >> those saucy pictures of her from their tryst in san diego, they're incredibly funny with
her reece's cup and stuff like that, you've got to see that, but, come on, why is he doing this? i want to know that. >> definitely a question we're asking. whitney casey, carlos diaz, thank you so much. and for the record, we did reach out to carrie prejean and have not heard back from her as of showtime. >> today i spoke with donald trump and he is really fired up over this. it is my "showbiz tonight" exclusive. the first reaction from the donald today about carrie's larry king tantrum. and you've got to hear what he's telling me about carrie's big dis of him. more big news about levi johnston today. no, he's not posing nude for anyone else, but he's got an amazing personal connection to jon gosselin. levi and jon? my head is spinning. also, your very first look at oprah's interview with levi's good buddy, sarah palin. >> one final question about levi. will he be invited to thanksgiving dinner?
welcome back to "showbiz tonight." i'm brooke anderson in hollywood with a.j. hammer in new york. hey, did you see this? tonight, the controversy over the brand-new movie "2012." now, the movie would have you believe that the world is coming to a spectacular end in 2012. now, "showbiz tonight" can tell you, have no fear, the end is not near. but because so many people have been talking about the thing, even nasa decided to look into it. here's cnn's jeanne moos for "showbiz tonight." >> reporter: save the date, could be the last one you save. >> december 21st, 2012. >> december 2012. >> 2012. >> yeah, but 2012.
>> december 21st, 2012. >> dude, are you high again? >> reporter: oh, we're going to be high, blown sky-high. bye-bye sistine chapel, bye-bye u.s. capitol, bye-bye white house, about to be squished by an aircraft carrier. the doomsday movie "2012" is coming out, but don't stop paying your mortgage, because nasa assures us nothing bad will happen. >> there is no threat to earth in 2012. >> reporter: seriously, folks, there's been so much chatter about this -- >> this mayan calendar predicts the end of time -- >> reporter: that nasa is reassuring people on its website. >> all the talk about a doomsday is a big hoax. >> when they tell you not to panic, that's when you run. >> reporter: nasa is having to tell people that another planet isn't going to smash into ours. >> nibiru does not exist. where to start with this idiocy. >> many web pages created by
nerds that actually believe this bull [ bleep ]. >> reporter: and mockery is rampant. >> gone, gone, gone. still here, but just a lot bigger. >> reporter: but there are true believers. >> get yourself as far away from the ocean as you can. get out your voice stress analyzers and find out if i'm telling you the truth. >> reporter: analyze this. >> holy -- >> reporter: talk of the end of the world was just the beginning of a flood of questions. real scientists like the ones who answer questions at askanastronomer are getting questions like this. >> there was a boy who wrote in and said that he was too young to die, but had heard about 2012 and was scared. >> look at me. do i look scared? >> reporter: let's see, december 21st, 2012, that gives us about -- 1,130-some days left to live. >> look to jesus. >> reporter: but if you look to nasa -- >> don't worry about 2012 and enjoy 2013 when it comes.
>> in 2012, i'm voting for sarah palin, because the world is ending anyway. yeah! >> that was cnn's jeanne moos for "showbiz tonight." and if you want to check out hollywood's interpretations of the end of the world, "2012" hits theaters tomorrow. >> brooke, you know when we'll know when the end of the world is near? >> when's that? >> when donald trump keeps quiet when someone attacks him. >> brooke, i can tell you, our "showbiz on call" operators are getting a huge amount of calls today about carrie nearly walking off the set of cnn's larry ki"larry king live". >> that's right, susan in new york thinks carrie was so out of line. >> caller: she couldn't even keep her mike on, because she kept telling him he was big
inappropriate as he asked questions and you're supposed to walk out of the interview. aren't you supposed to stand up for what you believe, not run the other direction? it seems to me carrie does a lot running the other direction. >> we also heard from jim calling into "showbiz on call" in california. and when it comes to trump versus carrie, he's on team carrie. >> caller: why shouldn't carrie take on donald trump? why shouldn't she? just because he's got a lot of money? yes, she might be clobbered, but stand up to him and let the chips fall where they may. go, carrie. >> remember, you too can call us at "showbiz on call". >> the "showbiz on call" phone lines are always open. the number, 1-888-sbt-buzz. >> so, brooke, i for one am really looking forward to your on one-on-one with donald trump. brooke has got donald's fired up response today to carrie's tv tantrum. you won't want to miss what donald tells us about carrie
bash at him. you'll see it only here on "showbiz tonight." plus, takes on kanye. ♪ mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be kanye ♪ >> yeah, tonight, taylor swift's country music friends give kanye a good old-fashioned butt whooping. and boy does he deserve it. also making big news today, the stripper's surprising message for fergie. wait until you hear this. it's the stripper who claims she had a wild night of sex with her husband, josh duhamel, is telling fergie now. this is "showbiz tonight" on hln. it's time now for the "showbiz news ticker," more stories from the "showbiz tonight" newsroom making news right now.
now on "showbiz tonight," a "showbiz tonight" exclusive. donald trump's fiery response after carrie prejean lashed out at him. we are one on one with the donald in the headline-making interview you'll see only on "showbiz tonight." levi johnston and jon gosselin? tonight, "showbiz tonight" has levi's startling revelations about his personal connection to jon. also, levi's nemesis, sarah palin, sits down with oprah. >> one final question about levi. will he be invited to thanksgiving dinner? >> yep, oprah went there. and just wait until you hear how palin answered that one.
we just got our hands on this sneak peek today. plus, more stories breaking from the "showbiz news ticker," tv's most provocative entertainment news show continues right now! welcome back to "showbiz tonight." it is 30 minutes past the hour. i'm a.j. hammer, broadcasting tonight and every night from new york city. >> and i'm brooke anderson, coming to you from hollywood. and tonight, a "showbiz tonight" exclusive, donald trump strikes back against meltdown beauty queen carrie prejean, and it made for big news breaking today. wait until you hear my explosive exclusive interview with trump today, getting his very first reaction to prejean's over-the-top tantrum on cnn's "larry king live." you are not going to believe what the donald has to say about that. i also asked trump if he plans on suing prejean for her claims
about how he runs his pageant, accusing trump in her new book about singling out some of the beauty queens and humiliating them. and i just had to ask trump today if he would ever consider making carrie prejean a contestant on his hit tv show, "celebrity apprentice." this is the headline-making interview you'll see only on "showbiz tonight," beginning with donald trump's very first reaction to carrie prejean's meltdown on "larry king live." i want to start first with carrie prejean's meltdown on "larry king live." i don't know if you caught the show, but at one point, larry was asking carrie why she settled her lawsuit against the pageant. she told larry he was being inappropriate. at one point, she even took off her mike. >> i'm not asking you what the settlement was. i'm asking you, why did you agree to settle? >> it's a confidential agreement and i am not allowed to talk about that. so -- >> larry: so the agreement discusses the motive behind why each party agreed? >> larry, you're being inappropriate.
you really are. so -- >> larry: what? i'm asking a question. >> i'm not going to talk about anything that was discussed in mediation. it was completely confidential and it's a confidential settlement. >> larry: so in mediation it was discussed why you were mediating? >> larry, it's completely confidential and you're being inappropriate. >> what's your reaction to that? >> i actually was watching. i'm a big fan of larry king and i was watching this. and i was very surprised to see it, because she was talking about how inappropriate he was. inappropriate is more of a sexual term, as far as i'm concerned. inappropriate? he asked a very, very easy question. >> yeah. >> and i was surprised that she just didn't say, hey, listen, i can't answer that question. instead, she wants to walk off the stage. it was very surprising. it was really very strange to watch it. it was too bad. i felt badly for her, actually. >> it was all very, very odd. and donald, there are startling claims that former miss california usa, of course, carrie prejean, is making about
how you run your beauty pageants. here's what she told cnn's larry king. >> you know, we were on stage and there were some women on the right and some women on the left. and there were some women who were devastated. they felt that they didn't -- that donald trump didn't like them, that, you know, he didn't look at them enough. am i portraying him as a horrible person? no. and donald trump is such a small part of my book and people would like for me to get distracted by that and i'm not going to let that happen. >> in her book, donald, she says, and i quote, it became clear that the point of the whole exercise was for him to divide the room between girls he personally found attractive and those he did not. is that true? >> it is all very simple. first of all, it is not factual. but it's all very simple. i happen to have very good taste when it comes to beauty, and i do pick people. however, with all of that being said, i shake hands with the girl, i'm nice to them, i'm nice to everybody.
and what i have in my mind, only i know about. and i have a yellow pad, although i have a great memory, i have a yellow pad, i write certain things down, but nobody sees that other than me. now, during the course of saying hello to people, i'll jokingly say, who should win? and the girls will blurt out names, et cetera, et cetera, but that's all fun. the girls love meeting me, i loved meeting them. and i don't know what carrie's talking about. >> so she just misinterpreted the situation? >> well, sadly, because, you know, i have a good heart and i'm nice to people. and the pageants have become so successful, not because i'm a bad person. and i'm really nice to people. in fact, i'll go a step further. the ones that i know can't win, i'm nicer to them. >> right. i actually go out of my way. i don't say i feel sorry for, but i actually go out of my way to be nicer to the girls that i know can't win. >> make them feel comfortable. well, you are a very, very friendly guy. and i want to ask you about this
now, donald. because larry also asked carrie about the comments you made about her regarding the sex tape. you told "extra" she's trying to act like a nun. maybe she should release the tape and people would see whether or not she is a nun. here's what carrie told cnn's larry king. >> i have so much respect for him. i think that he was thrown into the middle of this and i really respect him as a businessman. and i know that at the end of the day, he has to listen to the people who he hired and who work for him, but i really wish he would have done a little bit more of an investigation on what really went on. >> donald, does that just make you angry, because she's intimating here that you listen to what people tell you and you don't have your facts straight. and also, 89 p% of viewers say that carrie in over her head here. what do you say to all that? >> maybe she is in over her head. and i have very good agents that have taken this pageant to new
levels of success and popularity. and all this publicity enures to the benefit of the pageant. as far as the sex tape, i guess carrie was the one that told people about the sex tape. she openly admits there's a sex tape. maybe she should reveal the sex tape to see whether or not it's horrendous or whatever. >> do you plan to sue carrie for what she's saying about you? >> no, because she's been very nice to me, actually. she was very nice to me in the book. i've always felt warm towards carrie. i think she's a nice person. i don't know who's leading her down this path, but it's unfortunate. but, no, i don't plan to sue carrie. i think she really has been very respectful of me. the only thing i didn't like is what she said when i lined the girls up. i think carrie really needs a little bit of guidance. >> well, you know a good opportunity when you see it, donald, as far as getting attention, publicity. do you think you would ever consider carrie as a contestant on "the celebrity apprentice"? after all, people would watch for the fireworks? >> well, we have such great people we're shooting right now
and the people we have are just incredible. so i don't know. that will be for next season. we'll have to see where is carrie next season. >> a.j., i got to say, donald really surprised me, because he was very forgiving of carrie. and you know, i just think she's out of her mind for going after donald trump like this. it's so unwise, because this is a man who stood by her, who defended her. >> yeah, with his arm around her at that press conference we all remember. brooke, it really takes some nerve. i'm thinking if carrie ever even had any credibility, she's completely lost it by now. and now that donald has told us exactly what he thinks about carrie's claims about him, i want to know who won this verbal smackdown. it's the hot debate tonight. in new york, whitney casey, a pop culture expert and author of "the man plan." and in hollywood, carlos diaz, a correspondent for "extra." carlos, were you surprised by anything donald told us today? i thought some of the things were a little shocking as far as
how forgiving he was. >> he's being very classy throughout this. and the thing he said in the interview which was most telling was, we'll have to wait and see where carrie is this time next year. we could all not know who carrie prejean is next year and i think donald's been around for so long, he's like, why am i going to waste my time on a lightweight. >> whitney, what about you? >>ic it's entertaining, the bunny rabbit is always thinking that the anaconda is entertaining her. the bunny rabbit here being carrie prejean and the anaconda being the nice and congenial donald trump. it is a smackdown he's won, done. >> i'll tell you what also shocked me today. the results that came in for our "showbiz tonight" question of the day, all about carrie's credibility. carlos, whitney, do not move. we're getting ready to reveal that in just a moment. it's finally done. oprah's big interview with sarah palin. and today, "showbiz tonight" got a first look. >> one final question about levi. will he be invited to thanksgiving dinner?
>> wait until you hear how sarah palin answered that one. this is huge news. and this was some more levi johnston news today that i had a hard time believing when i heard it. get this, levi reveals his startling personal connection to jon gosselin. plus, kanye gets his butt kicked. ♪ mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be kanye ♪ >> kanye gets taken down by some of the biggest names in country music as they stand up for taylor swift on her amazing historic night. go, taylor! and now the "showbiz news ticker," more stories from the "showbiz tonight" newsroom making news right now.
>> larry: what's your comment about donald trump's involvement in all this? >> oh, my gosh, he -- i have so much respect for him. i think that he was thrown into the middle of this and i really respect him as a businessman. and i know that at the end of the day, he has to listen to the people who he hired and who work for him. but i really wish he would have
done a little bit more of an investigation on what really went on. >> that's carrie prejean on cnn's "larry king live," saying donald trump should do his homework. just moments ago, you heard my exclusive "showbiz tonight" interview with the donald, reacting to carrie prejean. he says prejean is headed down the wrong path. so who won this smackdown between the beauty and the donald? welcome back to "showbiz tonight." i'm brooke anderson in hollywood with a.j. hammer in new york. tonight, the beauty versus the donald. i've got the absolutely unbelievable results of the "showbiz tonight" poll just coming in late today. so what do you think? was carrie prejean simply out of her mind for attacking the donald? and in another big breaking smackdown, taylor swift versus kanye west. "showbiz tonight" was right there in nashville when taylor made history, becoming the youngest entertainer of the year ever at the country music association awards last night. but the buzz was all about the guy who wasn't there, kanye
west. you have got to see the bashing kanye got. and also making big news today, levi johnston revealing his very personal connection to, of all people, jon gosselin. joining me tonight in new york, whitney casey, author of this book, "the man plan." also tonight in hollywood, carlos diaz, a correspondent for "extra." all right, whitney can , carlos saw my exclusive interview with donald trump today talking about carrie prejean. and i can tell you we just got the late-breaking results of the "showbiz tonight" poll. take a look at this. we asked, carrie prejean versus donald trump, is the former beauty queen in over her head? look at it. a stunning 91% said carrie is way in over her head. only 9% said she's not. you heard the donald tell me that prejean is getting some bad guidance. carlos, did our poll get that right? prejean will regret the day that she picked a fight with the
donald? >> definitely. in fact, you know, i thought larry king last night was extremely gracious and extremely classy when she was calling him inappropriate over and over again. i can guarantee you, carrie, that the donald, he'd fight a little tougher than that. and that's the thing, that she has to realize. she can't go at the donald like she went at larry and expect the same kind of class that larry gave last night. the donald will take the gloves off. >> larry was very patient and really took the high road in that interview. and speaking of the donald, he says he was particularly upset and disappointed after carrie claimed that he divided up pageant contestants by their looks. whitney, seems like carrie tried to lock horns with the donald. did she fail miserably? >> yes. you died the contestants, left, right, and then the one in the middle, guess what, she gets the crown. i mean, i don't understand what the controversy is here. it's a beauty pageant. and furthermore, i thought it
was horrible that she said he needed to do his homework. because if he actually did do his homework on her, he would have found those saucy pictures and that sex tape. so, come on, maybe it's a good thing, ignorance is bliss, girl, go with the blonde. >> i want to bring you back in here, a.j. donald says he's not going to sue carrie for the claims she made. do you think carrie maybe just watched my interview with donald and is wiping the sweat off her brow, because you know that the donald does not like sore losers. >> i don't know. maybe -- and carlos, maybe you're with me on this, maybe they're on the phone right now saying, this is going pretty well, isn't it? no. you don't want to get sued by donald trump. i think she's got to be relieved. let me tell you, no sore losers at the country music association awards last night. taylor swift did great. she swept up all the big awards, including entertainer of the year, and of course, "showbiz tonight" was right there with taylor. of course, kanye west was not there, but was very much on
people's minds, because it seemed like everyone, including taylor, was taking swipes at him for the way that he dissed her at the mtv video music awards. watch what happened. this is great. ♪ mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be kanye ♪ ♪ let them pick guitars and drive them old trucks ♪ ♪ because cowboys have manners, they don't interrupt ♪ >> and i want to thank every single person in this room tonight for not running up on the stage during this speech. thank you. >> all right. you go! taylor told "showbiz tonight" backstage, a wave of emotion kale over her when she won the entertainer of the year award. carlos, this really is a no-brainer. taylor has clearly put kanye west in his place by now. >> i think everyone rallied around taylor swift last night and really kind of brought her in. it was kind of uncomfortable, because kanye just lost his mom, and so to say, "mamas, don't let
your babies grow up to be kanye," was just kind of like, for a second, but the rest was really great. and hopefully kanye sees this for what it was, which was one big joke. >> and even though taylor swift is one of the sweetest people on the planet, i have to think that taylor did love seeing kanye get kicked around in her house last night. >> it was great. it was great for many reasons. because of the phraseology that's now come out that you've been kanye'd, well, now i'm going back to the 2004 election with john kerry. i'm saying now kanye has been taylor swift-voted away. bam! let's move on to another story making some big news today, levi johnston. and for once, he's not slamming sarah palin. instead, he's defending jon gosselin and is feeling apparently connection. one train wreck to another. levi said he's met jon gosselin. here's what he told people.com. "he's a good guy.
he's kind of in the same situation i am right now. he's a good dad and gets a lot of bad press. he's getting the same bad image as i am and it ain't true. i can relate to that." carlos, quickly, is levi the last guy jon gosselin needs relating to him in public right now? the last guy jon gosselin needs relating to him in public? >> i can just see jon gosselin, somebody told jon gosselin somebody is defending him. really, who? levi johnston. oh, great, that's awesome. by the way, levi johnston, today was the first day of his play girl photo shoot. >> what good timing all around. whitney casey, carlos diaz, thanks, guys. tonight oprah's big interview with sarah palin. today we get our hands on the very first look of what went down. wait until you hear what oprah asked pallin about levi johnton and how she answered. it is really good stuff. this is "showbiz tonight" on hln. >> it is time for the show buys news ticker. these are more stories from the newsroom that are making news right now.
no military tribunals for the most notorious 9/11 suspects. they're going on trial, just blocks from the world trade center site. we're going to hear how you feel about that. plus, guilty of a spectacular hoax. but will the infamous balloon boy's mom and dad see jail time? and sarah palin's book hasn't even hit the shelves and is already raising objections. is she just making stuff up as some are alleging? >> happy friday to you. even though it's the 13th, we're going to have a good day. thank you for keeping me company here. let's talk about our top story.
five alleged september 11th plotters heading to u.s. soil to be tried in a civilian court. within the past hour attorney general eric holder announced the justice department will seek the death penalty against mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed. they were waterboarded and that will likely pose legal problems for prosecutors. the president spoke about his decision to close guantanamo bay today during his visit to tokyo. >> i'm absolutely convinced that khalid sheikh mohammed will be subject to the most exacting demands of justice. the american people insist on it
and my administration will insist on it. >> and when the men go to trial in the southern district court of new york, they're going to be just blocks from where the world trade centers fell. nearly 3 thousand people died in those attacks. the actual transfer of the prisoners to new york is not expected to happen for several weeks, but formal charges haven't been filed against most of them yet. so with all of that said, we want your view on this. do you think trying the suspects in civilian court in new york is the right thing to do or would you have preferred they face military justice back at dpa guantanamo bay? >> e-mail us, call us or text us at hlntv or log on to facebook and tell me what you think. well, the alleged ft. hood gunman may be permanently paralyzed from the waist down. major nidal hasan was shot four times during the shooting spree last week. he's hospitalized in intensive care at brooke army medical
center in san antonio. his civilian lawyer talked with him for about an hour yesterday. >> he's not ambulatory. he's paralyzed. at least from the waist down. and my understanding is that there's no immediate likelihood that that's going to change. >> hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. 43 people were wounded. army investigators say hasan could face more charges, including the death of one soldier's unborn child. as expected, richard henne entered a guilty plea in connection with last month's balloon boy hoax. he and his wife appeared in a larimer county, colorado, court where he answered to the felony charge. >> as to the attempt to influence a public servant, count 1, the only count that's been filed here, how do you plead? >> guilty. >> his wife is charged with one misdemeanor count of false reporting to authorities. the hennes' attorneys said
prosecutors agreed to a sentence of probation with a possibility of up to 90 days in jail for richard, up to 60 days in jail for his wife. millions of people across the country were captivated by the couple's claims that their son had floated away in this balloon. the boy was at home the whole time. you might wonder what is next for the hennes? will they go to jail? what about the kids? >> sharon liko joins us on the phone from colorado. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> so they entered guilty pleas today. how long before they're sentenced? >> oh, probably about six weeks. they have to do a presentence investigation so they'll go and meet with the probation department and talk about what they did and they'll look at their background and then probation makes a recommendation to the judge, assuming there's no surprises, then they'll probably get jail. but actually henne might get the jail on the condition of
probation which probably wouldn't be a bad thing except they ought to add the price of the jail time to his tab along with the $2 million that he cost colorado in his little excursion. >> it's funny you bring that up because i have to think a lot of people are thinking these people should pay. there was an awful lot of manpower that was asserted to try to get this balloon back to the ground safely thinking that there was a little boy in it. what about restitution? >> well, that should be a condition, it always is. how you pay back $2 million, i don't know. but it would be nice if this guy likes to be rich and famous and he's going to go out and sell his book, that the state has the first rights on the book and that the state gets paid back and what's left over is his. >> let's look at this again. we've got a class 3 misdemeanor for her and a felony count for him. really, what is the probability of jail time if the prosecutor is only pushing for probation? >> it's -- there's a possibility because of what he did.
i mean it's so outrageous that with both of these offenses, jail is a possibility. jail for her, prison for him. so it's something that's definitely plausible. they go to jail a certain amount of time and then they do their probation. so they pay their debt in a couple of manners. but i think that kind of a sentence actually is good. it lets people know that maybe, just maybe they don't want to go to jail. maybe they like it on the outside better than on the inside. >> who wouldn't. okay, sharon liko, thank you for your expertise in this matter. we appreciate it. a missing 5-year-old girl was spotted with a man just an hour after she disappeared tuesday, so let's get you updated here because police in fayetteville, north carolina, say shaniya davis was seen with this man in a hotel about 40 miles away from her home. police used surveillance video from the hotel, here it is, to confirm her idea. the man seen with her they were
is this man, mario andretti mcneil. the very next day police arrested a different man in the case. police will not say if there's a connection between the two men, but as you can imagine, shaniya's father just wants his little girl back home. >> i just ask that they let her go and bring her home safe. if you're listening to daddy, i miss you so much, honey. i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up and you don't give up either, honey. >> clarence coe, this man, police arrested on kidnapping charges, he was in court yesterday of the judge asked him if he knew why he was there. he said no, but added he wasn't guilty. breaking news tonight, though, cops are desperately looking for that man caught on surveillance video at a hotel with shaniya. nancy grace has the late-breaking developments tonight at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln. surrounded by tight security, the man suspected of
killing at least 11 women appeared in an ohio courtroom today. not for any of these deaths, though. anthony sowell was arraigned for allegedly sexually assaulting a woman back in september that led police to his home, of course, where the remains of 11 people were found. sowell pleaded not guilty. a judge set his bond at a million dollars adding to the $5 million set last week. reporters sometimes go to great lengths or depths to put stories in context. take the severe flooding in the mid-atlantic yesterday. look at how reporter kurt williams of cnn affiliate wtkr put it into perspective. my goodness, what a trooper he is. more intense flooding pictures for you in a moment.
is this a good idea? that's what we want to hear from you. richelle carey is here to tell us what some of you are saying. it's hard to separate the emotion from the logistics of this question. >> we were both having that same concern when we put this topic on our facebook pages. there were a lot of people that were saying they didn't want any type of trial but we really wanted to talk about the pros and cons of this and where you stand on this. let's get one of our e-mails right now from mary. she says none of the 9/11 conspirators should ever set foot on american soil. to bring them to nyc for trial in civil court is a slap in the face to all the families and a mockery to the rest of americans. now, we've got herb wait on the phone calling from michigan. herb does not agree. herb, explain your position. >> caller: yeah, i believe that they should be tried here in america because, you know, we try everybody else here who does heinous crimes in america.
we tried timothy mcveigh and he bombed the place out there in oklahoma. and i just believe that america shouldn't be fearful of people like that. >> and speaking of the fearful, let me follow up with that. some people that are opposed to this say that their concern is the safety of people around them. they feel like if you bring accused terrorists here, it will bring out other terrorists. what do you think about that? >> well, my thing is this, you know, what's going on right now. we're in war with them right now. i mean they're out there anyway, you know what i'm saying. and if they wanted to do something, they would do it, regardless of if they're in guantanamo or right here in the united states. if they want to do something, they're going to do it anyway. >> herb, thank you for your phone call. got a lot of comments already on this topic on my facebook page. we read your comments. my producer is reading your comments right now. here's some that we have for you. dan wrote this, sure, why not? meaning trying them in new york city. he says having them looking
into -- have them looking into the eyes of the people they were potentially trying to kill, i think it is as good a place as any to do it. nina says, no, leave they are where they are. if you bring them to the united states, do you honestly think they will not do another attack on us just to set them free? so she has some safety concerns other people were talking about on the page as well. chris writes this: i look at this differently. as long as these terrorists are locked up, who cares if it's gitmo or new york? i say it's a good thing to have them close so we can keep an eye on them. so keep talking about this. do you think trying the suspects in civilian court in new york is the right thing to do? these 9/11 suspects. or would you have preferred they face military justice back at guantanamo bay or maybe you're okay with bringing them here, just not in a civilian court, maybe a military tribunal of some sort. e-mail us at cnn.com/hln or call us at 1-877-tell hln or text us
at hlntv. here's somebody from my facebook page who writes it's the correct decision but it's going to be a tough one for a lot of americans to swallow. due process is one of the cornerstone principles of our republic and one that must be honored to even the most heinous of circumstances. so some real reasoned thinking coming out of this as well it seems. thank you so much, as always we appreciate it. great discussion. we hope that you'll join in on it as well. the former governor of alaska says there is room at the table if levi johnston wants to come over for thanksgiving dinner. what else does sarah palin have to say?
arkansas. the leader of tony alamo christian ministries has been in federal custody since he was caught on a raid on his compound last year. the remnants of tropical storm ida are still a problem. heavy rain is along the mid-atlantic here. look at what some of the streets look like up and down the east coast. schools are closed. more than 100,000 people lost power in virginia and north carolina and five deaths are blamed on the storms. here's what one reporter saw in virginia. >> reporter: hey, guys, i'm out here at bush and olney. and you can see where the water is well over my waist. >> coastal flood warnings are posted from new jersey southward to the outer banks of north carolina. flood advisories are also up along the potomac in washington, d.c. and up the delaware river to philadelphia. well, levi johnston's manager says his much-hyped play girl shoot was, quote, fantastic, though he wouldn't go into any details. the manager said the shoot did
include a hockey stick. johnston is the father of former alaska governor sarah palin's grandchild. now, if you were palin, let me ask you, would you invite johnston to thanksgiving dinner with the family? well, that's what oprah asked palin in an interview that airs on monday. here's a sneak peek. >> so, one final question about le levi. will he be invited to thanksgiving dinner? >> you know, that's a great question and it's lovely to think that he would ever even consider such a thing because of course you want -- he is a part of the family and you want to bring him in the fold and kind of under your wing, and he needs that too, oprah. i think he needs to know that he is loved and he has the most beautiful child. and this can all work out for good, it really can. we don't have to keep going down this road of controversy and drama all the time. we're not really into the drama. we don't really like that. we're more productive, we have other things to concentrate and do. >> does that mean yes, he is coming or, no, he's not.
>> palin was anything but upbeat when talking about her interview with katie couric during the 2008 presidential race. hear that in the next half hour. we'll have that for you. palin also isn't sugar coating her feelings about those who ran senator john mccain's campaign. her new book includes details about the rumored tensions between the two camps. palin appears upset about being charged $50,000 to pay for the cost of getting her as mccain's running mate. the general counsel refutes that, saying palin was never asked to pay the legal bill. pal enjust released a statement on her facebook page and says, quote, as is expected, the ap and a number of subsequent media outlets are erroneously reporting the contents of the book. she says keep your powder dry, read the book and enjoy it. obviously small business owners among so many others are having a really hard time with this economy. clark howard has tips on where
you can turn for help. >> through this recession, we've been in, it seems that everybody has been there to help people and big businesses try to get through. but what about you, if you're a small businessperson, an entrepreneur. who's there for you? it feels like you've been left to your own devices to try to survive tough economic times. however, there is help out there. what about you assembling your own kitchen cabinet? that's an informal group of people that gather together who are people that you trust that maybe have a business background or just are very experienced. there are a number of more formal groups out there, like in the past i've talked about score, which has chapters all over america. you can look more at score.org. there's even new groups designed just to help people who are women business owners try to survive these tough times. so if you feel all alone out in the world, get your kitchen cabinet together to make the
difference. i'm clark howard. for more ways i try to make a difference with your wallet, go to cnn.com/clarkhoward. did you know that clark howard serves in the georgia state guard? well, this weekend you'll see him serving the troops. clark and robin meade teamed up to help soldiers and you sai more, spend less and avoid getting ripped off. catch this special presentation at 6:00 a.m., noon and 4:00 p.m. eastern saturday and sunday right here on hln. new details coming to us in the search for shaniya davis. another person has just been arrested in connection with her disappearance. we'll have the details for you. plus a mother of five kids reportedly was having money problems. well, the fbi says she came up with a desperate solution.
thank you for your company. we have brand new developments we want to share with you in the case of a missing 5-year-old north carolina girl who is still missing, but listen to this. police in fayetteville, north carolina, say a man has admitted to kidnapping shaniya davis. we believe that's the man right there. investigators still don't know where she is, though. now, she was spotted with this man, mario andretti mcneil just an hour after she disappeared on tuesday, seen with him in a hotel about 40 miles away from her. this is the surveillance video police used from the hotel to confirm their identities. with mcneil's arrest, kidnapping charges have been dropped against the man police arrested on wednesday, clarence coe, but
police are still looking for that little girl. so please take a moment, look at your screen there. shaniya's father says he just wants his little girl back home safe. >> i just ask that they let her go and bring her home safe. we all miss her and love her very much. if you're listening to daddy, i miss you so much, honey, and i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up and you don't give up either, honey. >> authorities could learn more when mcneil makes his first court appearance this afternoon. this breaking news tonight as cops desperately look for that little girl. now that they have the man caught on surveillance video in custody, nancy grace has the late-breaking developments in the search for the 5-year-old tonight at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln. five alleged september 11th plotters heading to u.s. soil to be tried in a civilian court. now, within the past hour, attorney general eric holder announced the justice department will seek the death penalty
against self-confessed september 11th mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed and four other gaib detainees. the just department revealed they were waterboarded which will likely pose legal problems for prosecutors. the president's plan is to eventually close the prison camp in cuba. holder says it's important that the process is transparent. >> with regard to the openness of the trials, i think we get a sense of that from other significant terrorist trials that have occurred where they were largely open. portions of them likely will be closed so that classified information, sources and methods are not revealed. but i would expect that these trials will be open to the public, open to the world, and open to the survivors and victims of these heinous acts. >> when the men go on trial in the southern district court of new york, they'll be just blocks from where the world trade
center towers fell. nearly 3,000 people were killed in the attacks. the actual transfer of the prisoners to new york may not happen for several weeks. formal charges haven't been filed against most of them. so an attorney that practices in the area of international law and defense and has previously worked with the guantanamo detainees, so he joins us to talk about the tricky issues ahead in the september 11th suspect trials. jeffrey, thank you for being with us. let's talk about this. no charges have been filed yet. what does that mean for this trial? >> well, the charges will be filed. what you'll have are indictments for first degree murder, for terrorist charges and really this is a transparent effort as opposed to a military tribunal. there were open trials before in 1993 for the sheikh trial, the world trade center bombing, and those were successful for the government and they're trying it again. >> one question that i have that
really stands out to me is if this is a civilian trial, how do you find a jury? >> right. if i'm a defense counsel, the first thing i will ask for is a change in venue because you'll say how can you get a fair trial in new york a couple of miles away from the world trade center. however, it's happened before. it's difficult to get a change in venue. and obviously jurors will have heard about what happened, but they have to be impartial and fair. >> yeah, but can you get a fair jury anywhere in the united states at this point really? >> realistically that's how the system works and you're going to have to try the case in the united states. it's unclear whether you can get that fair trial, but it's happened before. they will try to get an impartial jury and a judge will make sure that the jury will be impartial. >> you know, there are reports that the alleged mastermind, khalid sheikh mohammed confessed but it might have been coerced because a justice department report states that he was waterboarded almost 200 times at one point. what problem might that pose?
>> the defense counsel will move to exclude the evidence of the waterboarding. presumably the government has other evidence that they can introduce in case that evidence is suppressed, but that will be a big battle at trial and that may in fact imply what judge -- what the exjudge holder, attorney general holder was saying about some portions of the case being sealed and others not, others open. >> so how transparent do you think this trial could be? and what might they face? >> well, it will be very transparent, what these five people will face is the death penalty. if convicted, they will be held in a supermax prison in the united states and then face the death penalty. >> okay. thank you so much for giving us your perspective and your expertise in this area. we really appreciate you walking us through it. so let me pose the question to you now that you've heard this back and forth. do you think trying the suspects in civilian court in new york is
the right thing to do or would you have preferred they face military justice back at guantanamo bay? e-mail us at cnn.com/hln or call us at 1-877-tell hln or text us at hlntv or just go to my facebook page. i'd love to hear from you. the alleged ft. hood gunman may be permanently paralyzed from the waist down. he was shot four times during the shooting spree last week. he's hospitalized in intensive care at brooke army medical center in san antonio. his civilian lawyer talked with him for about an hour yesterday. >> he's not ambulatory. he's paralyzed, at least from the waist down. and my understanding is that there's no immediate likelihood that that's going to change. >> hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. 43 people were wounded. army investigators say hasan could face more charges,
including the death of one soldier's unborn child. as expected, richard heene entered a guilty plea today in connection with last month's balloon boy hoax. he and his wife appeared in a larimer county, colorado, court where he answered to a felony charge. >> as to the attempt to influence a public servant, count 1, the only count that's been filed here, how do you plead? >> guilty. >> his wife pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of false reporting to authorities. the heenes' attorneys say they have agreed to a sentence of probation with a possibility of up to 90 days in jail for richard, up to 60 days in jail for his wife. millions of people, though, i'm sure you were probably one of them, captivated by the couple's claim that their son had floated away in this balloon. the boy was at home the whole time. evangelist tony alamo has just been sentenced to 175 years in prison. he was convicted for taking
young girls for sex across state lines and taking some of them as child brides. he was on trial in tax aur cexa arkansas. he has been in custody after being caught in a raid on his compound last year. nothing says superfan like a haircut dedicated to your team, but one eighth grader was suspended for sporting his bengals spirit.
that led police to his home, where the remains of 11 people were found. sowell pleaded not guilty and a judge set his bond at $1 million. that adds to the $5 million bond set last week. oh, we want to thank our ireporters because i know a lot of you are soaked along the mid-atlantic coast. the area was slammed by remnants of tropical storm ida as well as the fact that it was coupled by a major nor'easter. the problem today is flooding, and a lot of it here. look at these incredible images sent in by eric kruck in ports mouth, virginia. they got creative and escaped their flooded home using a kayak. the water at the doorstep was about four feet deep yesterday and says a lot of cars are also underwater. thank you, eric, and your girl friend, hope you're safe. things aren't any better in norfolk. our reporter george banillo says streets have been turned into
rivers and the flooding is the worst he's ever seen. >> reporter: this is insane. i've never seen it this bad. all the storms we've had where it's just absolutely abandoned. this is freaky. people in canoes going by. it's crazy. >> that is crazy. if you been acted by the flooding along the mid-atlantic coast and would like to share your pictures or video, go to i report.com, click on the upload now link. there are complete instructions there. we want to give you a gentle reminor, please be careful and do not put yourself in risk of any kind whatsoever. your safety is first and foremost to us. an ohio mom is accused of teaching her children how to shoplift. you have to see the fight that broke out when security guards tried to stop them.
anchor in little rock and her mother whispered "it's okay" when the verdict was read. there really aren't any winners tonight. nothing that's been done here will ever bring anne back. we'll never see her smile, we'll never hear her laugh, we'll never know the joy of her presence with us until we see her again in heaven. >> vance's mother told the jury she abused him as a child, including a beating that may have caused brain damage. well, five men from one family are still in a missouri jail, all suspected of participating in child sex abuse for years. the group, a 77-year-old father and his four adult sons, appeared in court yesterday as the charges against them were read. they include rape, beastiality and forcing a child into a marriage. the abuse happened between 1988 and 1995. word of the alleged horrors has
left neighbors horrified. >> we've lived in this neighborhood for years and he's been a neighbor for years and who would ever suspect that, you know. it's amazing. >> they are being held on cash bonds that range from $30,000 to $75,000. they have another court hearing on tuesday. authorities continue to such a rural area for additional evidence. a sixth suspect, an associate was arrested yesterday on suspicion of child rape. five grown males, all from the very same family, have been charged with sexually abusing, raping and sodomizing at least six children from their own family. even forcing kids to engage in mock weddings and beastiality allegedly. take a look at these men. they have accused of doing the most unthinkable things to children, their own flesh and blood. but perhaps the most disturbing
part of this entire case, three of these men were lay ministers in the community of christ church. how is that for a toxic secret? how does this happen? this church not only needs a full-blown investigation, but they need to do some soul searching to uncover how someone inside their community could allegedly do something so evil right under their nose. i'm jane velez-mitchell and that's my issue. . >> and tonight on issues, celebrity addiction scandals. a special look at some of the most notorious cases of stars with addiction. that's tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln. the man accused of kidnapping an 11-year-old girl and holding her captive for 18 years has apologized from his jailhouse cell. philip garrido wrote to a california tv station saying he wanted to apologize to, quote, every human being for what's taken place, unquote. garrido and his wife are accused of holding jaycee dugard in a compound behind their california home. they have pleaded not guilty.
police also say garrido fathered dugard's two daughters. an ohio mom is accused of taking her kids shoplifting. police say surveillance tape shows the woman and her two children stealing clothes. take a look yourself here. when a security guard confronts them, though, a fight breaks out. police say two more adults got out of the getaway vehicle to join the melee. the adults were arrested. the 8-year-old boy and 10-year-old girl are now in protective custody. a student's hair cut got him suspended from school. take a look at this. dustin reeder said he was sent immediately to the principal's office when he showed up with a cincinnati bengals helmet design in his hair. the eighth grader was given an in-school suspension, meaning he'll be kept in isolation until his hair grows out so he can do his school work. administrators say they have given reeder warnings about his hair in the past but the boy says he's done nothing wrong. >> it's just a haircut. it ain't drug-related, it ain't got no guns, i ain't got no cuss
words and stuff like that, so why are they worried about it? >> readers parents say it's unfair and they're proud of him. new leaks about the possibility of the iphone coming to the verizon network. right now it only operates on the at&t network. well, the leaks are from sources in the supply chain, apparently. that's new. the latest one, fortune magazine reports millions of verizon users could get an iphone next summer based on reports that apple is building a phone that could work on the verizon network. at&t's exclusive right to carry that iphone reportedly runs out soon. oh, our money expert, clark howard, the one and only, did you know that he serves in the georgia national guard or state guard, i should say? this weekend, you're going to see him serving our troops in operation clark smart. he's teaming up with our morning express's robin meade to help soldiers and you, of course, save more, spend less and avoid getting ripped off.
here's the advice he gave a soldier that wanted to invest in something other than the thrift savings plan, the military's version basically of a 401(k). >> i'm way over here with staff sergeant isaac heard you talk . he wants to know about some other good investments for what? >> any other investment that you recommend to just get a little bit more money. >> if you have more money than -- >> let's say you already have the tsp. >> you want to stash more? you have $5,000 for me right now? >> yeah. >> okay. good. because you can do -- >> everybody's head swivel. let me see. >> who has $5,000. you can do up to $5,000 each calendar year in an account called a roth. roth is my favorite savings vehicle because you put in this
money, this up to 5 grand and if you're married you can do five and five. you don't have to do five. that's just the ceiling. you put money into this and listen to this, you never get taxed on that money. everything you earn on it tax free. when you spend it, you spend it tax free. you can take money you have in savings, whatever it is, put it into a roth account and the tax free advantage over time is gigantic. now, when are you allowed to spend the money? when would you guess i'll let you spend the money? >> that was my next question. >> how old are you now? >> 33. >> so you would put this money into a roth and you got to leave it in there for 26 years but then everything that you have is your money to spend dollar for dollar government is out of your life on taxing it.