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brand new developments in the case of a missing 5-year-old north carolina girl. police in fayetteville, north carolina, say a man has admitted to kidnapping shaniya davis but they still don't know where she is. shaniya was spotted with mario mcneal just an hour before she disappeared back on tuesday. she was seen with him in a hotel about 40 miles away from her home. police used surveillance video from the hotel to confirm identities and now with mcneal's arrest kidnapping charges have been dropped against the man police arrested wednesday. police are still looking for shaniya. her father says he just wants his little girl back home safe.
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>> i just ask that they let her go and bring her home safe. we miss her and love her very much. if you're listening to daddy, i miss you so much, honey. i'm waiting for you. i'm not going give up. you don't give up either, honey. >> authorities could learn more when mcneal makes his first court appearance sometime this afternoon. we'll stay on top of that. five alleged september 11th plotters are headed to the u.s. to be tried in a civilian court. within the past hour attorney general eric holder announced the justice department will seek the death penalty against self-confessed 9/11 mastermind khalid shaikh mohammed and four other guantanamo bay detainees. the civilian trials are not expected to be easy. the justice department is revealing mohammad and others were water boarded and that will pose a legal problem for prosecutors. the trials are part of president obama's plan to eventually close that u.s. prison camp in cuba. he spoke about the decision today during his trip to tokyo.
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i'm absolutely convinced that khalid shaikh mohammed will be subject to the most exact in demands of justice. the american people insist on it and my administration will insist on it. >> the man will go on trial in the southern district of new york just blocks from the world trade center tower. nearly 3,000 people were killed in the attacks in new york and washington. the actual transfer isn't expected to happen for many weeks. what do you think about this? what do you think about trying these suspects in civilian court in new york? do you think it's the right thing to do? do you prefer they face military justice back in guantanamo bay. e-mail us at cnn.com/hln. call us at 877-tell-hln.
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you can text us at hlntv. standard text rates apply. there's also a discussion going on on my facebook page. search richelle carey hln to dive in. we'll share your responses with you in just a bit. the alleged ft. hood gunman may be permanently paralyzed from the waist down. he was shot four times during that shooting spree last week. he's in intensive care in san antonio. his civilian lawyer talked with him for an hour yesterday. he's paralyzed. at least from the waist down. and my understanding is that there's no immediate likelihood that that's going to change. >> hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. 43 people were wounded. hasan could face more charges including the death of one of the soldier's unborn children. an evangelist has been
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convicted of taking underage girls across state lines for text. alamo was the leader of a christian ministry. richard heene entered a guilty plea in connection with last month's balloon boy hoax. he and his wife were in a colorado court today where he answered to a felony charge. his wife pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of misleading authorities. prosecutors agreed to the sentence of probation with a possibility of up to 90 days in jail for richard heene and 60
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days in jail for his wife. millions watched that across the country. captivated by the claim their son floated away in that balloon but he was at home the whole time. a nasa satellite uncovered water on a crater in the moon. it opens a new chapter about what we know about the earth's newest neighbor. nasa fired two spacecraft into the crater to measure the vapor and dust from impacts. scientists analyzed a huge amount of data from crashes and found several signs of water in the plume. how much and where it lies need to do more research on that. flames light up the night sky. the fight to save this multimillion dollar mansion from burning to the ground.
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some people don't buy fresh produce because they say it's too expensivexpensive. in certain neighborhoods fresh produce isn't even an option. in one neighborhood a woman is on a mission to change that in today's health minute. >> ladonna is on a mission. she led an effort to start urban farm sites because no matter how hard she tried, she couldn't find fresh produce in the neighborhood. >> if you wanted to, you could buy illegal drugs. you can get access to a variety of illegal drugs but if you wanted to find an organic tomato in this community, if you didn't want to come to our urban farm site, you wouldn't buy one. >> reporter: with few grocery stores nearby, most do shopping at convenience stores like this one full of chips, sugary drinks and candy. and according to a new study from the journal of pediatrics shopping at these convenience stores is part of what makes our
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kids fat. on average kids are eating 356 empty calories at every stop. ladonna is adding store owner to her list of professions. >> our project tries to bring healthy lifestyles to the hip-hop generation. >> reporter: in the hopes to change the tide in the ever growing storm of obesity. for today's health minute, i'm dr. sanjay gupta. earlier we told you the alleged mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks is going to be tried in civilian court. it's going to happen in new york city. this is a good idea? that's what we've been asking you today. we want your view on this. a lot of comments already posted on richelle carey hln in facebook. here are some of them. ryan wrote this. ryan is not feeling it.
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let's get to some phone calls. we'll start in chicago. i understand that you are okay with this. >> caller: no, i'm not. i'm actually okay with new york because i think we should not have different tier level in our justice system. it's like rolling back the clock when we had two tier system for two different people back then. >> let me put the question to you again. you're okay with the trial being
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in new york. are you okay with it being a civilian court or would you prefer a military court? can we go down that path? >> caller: i would prefer civilian court because the suspected terrorists should be tried in the u.s. there should be nothing in between otherwise we set up two tier level of justice system and that is not acceptable. >> okay. thank you very much. he is all right with the civilian court even in new york. all right. another phone call from john in washington state. john, where do you stand on this? >> caller: i say yes. i love the idea. i think it's poetic justice. they did the crime in new york. yes. give these people the chance to -- like the president said, to exact justice on these here individuals. >> do you have any concerns at all? i understand your position. in arriving at that position do you have concerns that the other
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side does be it safety or the fact they don't think someone accused of these type of crimes deserves a trial like you or i might. >> caller: this is the united states. we was afraid one time and 9/11 happened. there's no reason -- yes, there is reasons out there for concern but this is the united states. the world is looking at us for examples. we got troops overseas giving their lives. just like the president said. give us the opportunity to exact our justice on these people. >> john, thank you for your phone call. i appreciate it. got an e-mail from kathy in michigan. this is what they said.
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that's a good discussion back and forth there. heidi says -- great discussion going on. we want to continue to talk about this. what do you think about the 9/11 suspects being tried in new york specifically in civilian courts? do you think this is the right path or not the right thing to do? e-mail us at cnn.com/hln. you can also pick up the phone and call and chat like we did there.
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you can text us at hlntv. the fbi says a mom came up with a desperate solution to money problems.
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check this out. a mansion up in flames outside of phoenix. the fire broke out this morning and at one point the roof collapsed. a local affiliate is reporting the home was about 8,000 square feet. listed on the market for nearly $4 million. firefighters say the home is a total loss. no one was hurt. no word on what started that fire. what's left of tropical storm ida is still a problem with heavy rain along the mid-atlantic. take a look at some of the streets up and down the east coast. schools are closed. more than 100,000 people lost power in virginia and north carolina. five deaths are also blamed on the storm. here's one reporter saw in
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virginia. >> reporter: i'm here at bush. you can see where the water is well over my waist. >> coastal flood warnings are posted from new jersey southward to the outer banks of north carolina. flood advisories are also up along the potomac in washington, d.c. and up the delaware river to philadelphia. a billboard along a san diego highway is offending people with a simple but very loaded message. don't believe in god, you are not alone. it was put up by a group called san diego coalition of reason. >> if you don't believe in god, we're letting you know you're not alone. there are other people in this area like them. >> i'm offended by it. that is attacking somebody's belief. >> i always believed in god and i don't like it. >> some people may respond negatively to the question but
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that's not the point. we're not here to offend anybody. >> i'm excited that people are actually opening up the question of is god real? is there a god? everyone has to make a personal decision about if they're going to believe in god. i think the very fact that you're posing the question causes an expectation, causes an interest. >> a similar billboard in cincinnati is reportedly being moved to a different spot because of alleged threats. just two days after it was put up. police say they arrested a bank robber wanted by the fbi. look at the suspect. a develop mother of five kids. authorities believe roxanne hit at least four banks. neighbors say they're shocked. >> she's got a little girl who will be missing her mom. it's going to be really sad if she's not around for the next 10 to 15 years. >> financial crisis. that's all i can say.
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it pushes people to the most extreme. >> her luck apparently ran out after she allegedly robbed a chase bank last week. police say they busted her and the getaway vehicle, a red minivan, with evidence inside that linked her to the robbery. surrounded by tight security, the man suspected of killing at least 11 women appeared in an ohio courtroom today but not for any of their deaths. anthony sowell was formally charged for allegedly sexually assaulting a woman back in september. that led police to his home where the remains of 11 people were found. sowell pleaded not guilty. a judge set his bond at a million dollars adding to $5 million bond set last week. five men from one family remain in jail in missouri. all are suspected of participating in child sex abuse for years. this group is a 77-year-old father and his four adult sons. they appeared in court yesterday as charges against them were read.
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they include rape, bestiality, and forcing a child into a fake marriage. this all happened reportedly between 1988 and 1995. word of the alleged crimes left neighbors horrified. >> we've lived in this neighborhood for years. he's been a neighbor for years. and who would ever suspect that? it's amazing. >> the mohlers are held on cash bonds ranging from $30,000 to $75,000. they have another court hearing on tuesday. authorities continue to search an area where the family once lived for additional evidence and meanwhile a sixth suspect, an associate of the mohlers, was arrested yesterday on suspicion of child rape. the man accused of kidnapping an 11-year-old girl and holding her captive for 18 years has apologized from his jail house cell. phillip garrido wrote to a california tv station saying he wanted to apologize to every human being for what has taken
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place. it's a quote there. garrido and his wife are accused of holding jaycee dugard in a compound behind their home in california. they pleaded not guilty. police also say garrido fathered dugard's two daughters. did you know clark howard serves in the georgia state guard? this weekend you'll see him serving the troops. clark and robin immediate of hln's "morning express" teamed up to help the soldiers, save more, spend less and avoid getting ripped off. catch the special presentation at 6:00 a.m., noon and 4:00 p.m. eastern on saturday and sunday right here on hln. a 13-year-old minnesota boy suspected of shooting two of his neighbor's horses as they grazed in pasture. shots were heard monday morning and the owners found the horses bleeding. >> she has a shot here in her rear end and then obviously she's got the one shot in her face. here in her shoulder and it
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looks like she was grazed here. >> the boy was seen running away after that shooting. he turned out to be a neighbor's son. the boy's dad says he thought the autistic teen was responsible enough to hold a .22 caliber rifle in the field but now he's taken away the gun. y8
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new developments in the case of a missing 5-year-old north carolina girl. police in fayetteville say a man has admitted to kidnapping shaniya davis but they still don't know where she is. she was spotted with mario mcneal just an hour after she disappeared on tuesday. she was seen with him in a hotel about 40 miles away from her home. police used surveillance video from the hotel to confirm the identities and now with mcneal's arrest kidnapping charges were dropped against the man police arrested wednesday. police are still looking for shaniya. her father says he just wants his little girl back home safe. >> i just ask that they let her
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go and bring her home safe. with we all miss her and love her very much. if you're listening to daddy, i miss you so much, honey. i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up and you don't give up either, honey. >> authorities could learn more when mcneal makes his first court appearance sometime this afternoon. cops arrest the man caught on surveillance video at a hotel with shaniya. where is the 5-year-old girl? nancy grace has the late breaking developments at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln. september 11th plotters headed to u.s. soil to be tried in a civilian court. attorney general eric holder announced today the justice department will seek the death penalty against khalid shaikh mohammed and also four other guantanamo bay detainees. the civilian trials will not be easy. the just department has revealed that mohammad and others were waterboarded and that will
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likely pose a legal problem for prosecutors. this is part of president obama's plan to shut down the u.s. prison camp in cuba. he spoke about the decision today during his visit to tokyo. >> i am absolutely convinced that khalid shaikh mohammed will be subject to the most exacting demands of justice. the american people insist on it. my administration will insist on it. >> when the men go on trial in the southern district court of new york, they'll be just blocks from where the world trade center towers fell. nearly 3,000 people were killed in those attacks on new york and washington. the actual transfer of the prisoners to new york may not happen for several weeks. formal charges have not been filed against most of them. what do you think about this? about trying the 9/11 suspects in civilian court in new york? do you think it's the right
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thing to do? would you prefer they face military justice back at guantanamo bay before this place is chose closed? you can e-mail us or call us at 877-tell-hln or if you prefer text us at hlntv. standard text rates apply. the alleged ft. hood fgunma may be permanently hospitalized from the waist down. the civilian lawyer talked with them for an hour yesterday. >> he's paralyzed. at least from the waist down. my understanding is there's no immediate likelihood that that's going to change. >> hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. 43 people were wounded. investigators say hasan could face more charges including the death of one soldier's unborn
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child. tone alamo sentenced to 175 years in prison. accused of taking young girls across state lines for sex some as child brides. he was on trial in arkansas. alamo has been in federal custody since he was caught in a raid on his compound last year. as expected, richard heene entered a guilty plea today in connection with last month's balloon boy hoax. he and his wife were in a colorado court today where he answered to a felony charge. >> as to the attempt to influence a public servant, count one, the only count that's been filed here, how do you plead? >> guilty. >> okay. >> his wife pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of false reporting to authorities. the heene's attorney says prosecutors have agreed to a sentence of probation with the possibility of up to 90 days in jail for richard heene and 60
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days in jail for his wife. millions of people across the country were fixated, captivated by that. the couple claimed their son was floating away in that balloon but the child was home the entire time. former alaska governor sarah palin's new book "going rogue" hits store shelves on tuesday. it's already a bestseller. for months there's been speculation about what will and won't be in this book. it's 413 pages. and now to help sort through all of this is paul steinhauser, our sister network cnn deputy political director. great to have you in person. we appreciate it. we know a bit about certain e excerpts in the book. tell us about it. >> it seems the associated press did get a book and what it tells us from what they're reporting is that tension between sarah palin and her closest advisers and john mccain's campaign officials is something we knew about but now we hear it from sarah palin's mouth that she
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definitely didn't see eye to eye with them on many things. what does sarah palin say about this? she said this. the associated press and a number of subsequent media outlets are erroneously reporting the contents of the book. >> she may have a point you need to read the whole thing and get context. i agree with that. we have excerpts from the oprah interview. >> we have some snippets. let's take a listen. >> let's talk about the interview with katie couric. >> must we? okay. okay. >> you talk about it in the book. i assume everything in the book is fair game. >> it is. >> you do say that it wasn't your best interview.
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>> here again -- >> did you think that was a defining moment for you, that book? >> i did not. neither did the campaign. that is why segment two and three and four and five were scheduled. the campaign said right on. good. you're showing independence. this is what america needs to see. that's a good interview. i'm thinking if you thought that was a good interview, i don't know what a bad interview was. i knew it wasn't a good interview. >> more bad blood between her and the mccain campaign officials. >> with answers like that, what is this? a book tour? to make money? to stay in the public eye? >> it's everything. she wants to get her message out. you write a book. get back in the spotlight, write a book. go on oprah and do a book tour. is there politics involved? does she want to run for the top spot next time around? we don't know. i tell you, a lot of people that run for president write books. >> that's actually true. that leads to my next question.
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i put on my facebook page you were going to be here. someone posed this question about sarah palin. we're on the hot seat. be ready about this. why do you keep giving her attention? she's not even in office anymore and is not doing anything but tooting her own horn. i think you kind of touched on that that the onus is on us that we give her attention. >> we give her a lot of attention. one reason why is because there's a decent part of this population fascinated with this woman. people love her or hate her and conservatives that follow her and respect her. she's a public figure in many ways. >> i hope that satisfies allison's question. thank you for the question. she's not the only person in the republican party. she's not the only conservative out there. who else should we pay attention to? >> let's talk about other people who may want to run for the republican nomination. there are others that are busy. you remember mike huckabee? he has a holiday book. he'll be in south carolina.
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very important early political state. and mitt romney is in the sacred land of the ronald reagan ranch. to conservatives that's a big deal. giving a speech to a conservative group. it's the preseason right now in any battle for 2012 nomination but they're busy. >> they're not on "oprah." >> that's the key. >> all right. deputy political director paul steinhauser. good to have you here. appreciate it. you got to have faith or do you? drivers in cincinnati and san diego are seeing signs that not necessarily are the heaven sent kind. why billboards are making some people very angry.
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mumt m multiple and significant threats forced a group to pull down a billboard. if you don't believe in god, you're not alone. the leered of coalition of reason proves that bigotry against people that don't believe in god is very real in america. a similar billboard put up by the same group along highway in san diego getting a lot of debate. one pastor thinks it's a good thing because it opens conversations about god but overall reaction is mixed. >> if you don't believe in god, we're letting them know they're not alone. there are other people in this area like them. >> i'm offended by it. that's attacking someone's belief. >> i always believed in god. i really don't like that. >> some people may respond negatively to the question. but that's not the point. we're not here to offend anybody. >> i'm excited that people are actually opening up the question
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of is god real? is there a god? everyone has to make a personal decision about if they're going to believe in god. i think the very fact that you're posing the question causes an expectation, causes an interest. >> the coalition of reason put billboards in 14 different cities. on thanksgiving night we'll announce your choice for the cnn hero of the year. until then friends of the top 10 extraordinary individuals will be honored. today jewel introduces jorge. a school bus driver who every day rain or shine feeds scores of needy people. >> i'm jewel. two years ago i had the honor of serving on the blue ribbon panel that helped select the top ten cnn heroes of 2007. as part of project clean water,
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i'm thrilled to help cnn introduce one of this year's top ten honorees. now more than ever the world needs heros. >> i live on the street. >> when you're hungry, you're hungry. four years ago i see those guys desperate needing to eat. my name is jorge. every night i bring food to the hungry in queens, new york. i'm a school bus driver. when i come back around 5:15, my second job start. prepare the meal. pack it up. it's the family project seven days a week. i go to the same corner every night around 9:30. they're waiting for me. i help anyone that needs to eat, just line up.
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the best part is when you see the smile. i want them to eat every night. for me it's easy. compare with them, i'm rich. tired but good. >> go to cnn.com/heroes to vote for the hero that inspires you the most and the top ten will be honored at an all-star tribute hosted by anderson cooper in hollywood on thanksgiving night. flames lit up the night sky. the fight to save this multimillion dollar mansion from burning to the ground.
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this is a huge mansion in flames outside of phoenix. the fire broke out this morning. at one point the roof did
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collapse. a local affiliate is reporting this house is about 8,000 square feet. it was listed on the market for nearly $4 million. the firefighters say the home is a loss. nobody was hurt. no word on what started that fire. a lot of soaked i-reporters along the mid-atlantic coast. the area was slammed by what's left of tropical storm ida and also -- the water was at the doorstep. it was four feet deep yesterday. a lot of cars are also under water. things aren't better in norfolk. one of the i-reporters there say streets have been turned into rivers and the historic district
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flooding is worse than ever been seen. >> this is insane. i have never seen it this bad. all of these storms where this absolutely is just abandoned. this is freaky. people on canoes going by. it's crazy. >> appreciate all of our i-reporters. surrounded by tight security, the man suspected of killing at least 11 women appeared in an ohio courtroom today. not for any of their deaths. anthony sowell was formally charged for allegedly sexually assaulting a woman back in september. that led police to his home where remains of 11 people were found. sowell pleaded not guilty. a judge set his bond at $1 million adding to $5 million bond set last week. in today's "fit nation" dr. sanjay gupta looks at the link between obesity and cancer. >> i can tell you we have known
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for some time there's an association between cancer and obesity or excess body weight. it's been hard to pinpoint how much of an impact is there? that's been the focus of some research for some time by the american institute for cancer research trying to find the link, trying to quantify the link as well. let's get right down to it. they think every year there's over 100,000 cases of cancer directly linked to obesity and being overweight. let me be more clear on that. when you reduce all of the other potential factors like smoking, like age, like gender, it seems that it comes down to simply carrying too much body weight that increases your likelihood of cancer. they even specified how much increase there was between obesity and specific cancers. take a
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and also, there's this idea that when you have obesity, you sort of have this oxidative stress going through your body, a rusting process that can cause dna mutations. that's the bad news. good news is, doing 40 or 50 minutes on a treadmill or stationary bike every day can dramatically reduce your risk of cancer. so, we always say stay fit. here's yet another reason. back to you. a mother of five kids reportedly was having money
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problems. the fbi says she came up with a desperate solution, robbing banks. )%)%)%)%)%)%)%)%)%)%)%)%)ñ
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a north carolina man admits to kidnapping 5-year-old shaniya taifs. why is she still missing? and no military tribunals for the most notorious 9/11 suspects. they're going to trial just blocks from the world trade center site. your views on that. plus, faking cancer in order to get breast implants. outrageous allegations against a texas woman. why a local newspaper said she hatched this scheme in the first place. thank you so much for being with us. i want to say a happy friday to you. i hope that the day has been good to you so far. let's talk about one of the stories that have been making news today.
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evangelist tony alamo has been sentenced to 175 years in prison. remember, he was convicted for taking young girls across state lines for sex and taking some of them as child brides? he was on trial in texarkana, arkansas. he has been in federal custody since he was caught after a raid on his come pound last year. he was the leader of tony alamo christian ministries ban the, 175 years in prison is what he has been sentenced to. meanwhile, a man in north carolina has admitted to kidnapping a 5-year-old girl. but we still do not know where shania davis is. she was spotted with this man an hour after she 'tis appeared on tuesday. shaniya was seen 40 miles from home with him. police used this surveillance video from the hotel to confirm their identities. with his arrest, kidnapping charges have been dropped against the man police had arrested on wednesday but please take a good look at shaniya.
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the father just wants his little girl back home safe. >> i just ask that she comes home safe. we all miss her and love her very much. if you're listening to taddy, i miss you so much, honey, and i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up and you don't give up either. >> authorities could learn more when mac neil makes his first court appearance this afternoon. the breaking news tonight, nancy grace having the late breaking developments in the sex for shanuya davis at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. on hln. meanwhile, five alleged 9/11 plotters are headed to civilian court. the attorney general eric holder announced today the justice department will seek the tet penalty against the confirmed mastermind khalid shaikh mohammed and four other detainees. the civilian trials are not expected to be easy. in fact, the justice department has revealed they were
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waterboarded so that will likely pose legal problems for prosecutors. the trials are part of president obama's plan to close the u.s. prison camp in cuba. earlier i asked international law and criminal he was the attorney jeffrey about tricky legal issues ahead in this case. >> if this is a civilian trial, how to you find a jury? >> if i'm a defense counsel, the first thing i'll ask for is a change in venue. how can you get a fair trial in new york a couple miles away from the world trade center? however, it has happened before. it is difficult to get a change in venue. and obviously, jurors will have heard about what happened but they have to be impartial and fair. >> can you get a fair jury anywhere in the united states at this point, really? >> well, realistically that's how the system works and you'll have to try the case in the united states. it is unclear whether you can get that fair trial, but it has happened before. they will try to get an impartial jury and a judge will make sure the jury will be
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impartial. >> when the men go on trial in the southern district court of new york, they'll be blocks from where the world trade center towers fell. nearly 3,000 people died in the attacks on new york and washington, and the actual transfer of the prisoners may not happen for several weeks. we want to pose this question to you. do you think trying the suspects in civilian court in new york is the right thing to do? or would you have preferred they face military justice back at guantanamo bay? e-mail us at cnn.com/hln. or give us a call. you can text us or to go my facebook page. the alleged ft. hood gunman may be permanently paralyzed from the waist town. major nidal malik hasan was shot four times. he is in intensive care at the medical center in san antonio now. and his civilian lawyer talked with him for about an hour
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yesterday. >> he is is not ambulatory. my understanding is that there is no likelihood that will change. >> hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. 43 people were wounded and army investigators say hasan could face more charges of the death of one of the soldiers' unborn child. richard heene had a guilty plea today. answered to a felony charge in court. >> as to the attempt to influence a public servant, count one, the only count that has been filed here, how do you plead? >> guilty. >> his wife pleaded built they to one misdemeanor count of false reporting to authorities. the heene's attorneys say prosecutors have agreed to a sentence of probation with the possibility of up to 90 days in
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jail for richard. up to 60 days in jail for his wife. but millions of you across the country, weren't we just captivated by the claim their son was taken away in the balloon? the boy was at home the whole time. surrounded by tight security, the man suspected of killing at least 11 women appeared in an ohio courtroom but not for any of their deaths. this is anthony sowell. he was arrested for allegedly will attacking a woman. will he pleaded not guilty. a judge sentenced bond at $1 million adding to the $5 million bond set last week. sarah palin's book hasn't even hit the shelves and it is already raising objections. is she as some say, just making stuff up?
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all right, science buffs. a nasa satellite has uncovered water in a shadowy crater on the
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moon. scientists say the discovery opens a new chapter in what we know about the earth's nearest neighbor. last month, nasa fired two spacecrafts into the crater to measure the vapor and dust. scientists have analyzed a huge amount of information and found several signs of water in the plume. how much, where it lies exactly, well, that's why we need more research. some say if there is water, this could have been life at some point. president obama is in tokyo making his first trip to japan as president. concerns about the economy obviously at the top of his week-long visit to asia. on the first leg of his trip here he called the u.s. and japan equal partners and says the u.s. plays an important role in the region. the president heads to singapore later in the trim to meet about 20 asian leaders at a summit. former alaska governor sarah palin is not sugar coating her feelings about those who ran senator john mccain's campaign. according to the associated press, her new book includes details about the rumored tensions between the two camps.
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the ap says she appears upset about being charged $50,000 to pay for the cost of vetting her as mccain's running mate. the general counsel for mccain's campaign refutes that claim saying she was never asked to pay the legal bill. she released a statement on her facebook page about the ap reporting on what is contained in that book. she says as is expected, the ap and a number. subsequent media outlets are erroneously reporting the contents of the book. she goes on to say, deem your powder dry, read the book and enjoy it. palin will appear on oprah the day before her memoir "going rogue" hits stores. are you tired of earning less than 1% on a cd or a money market account? there has to be a better way to make the most of your cash. some people might say. felicia taylor is in the newsroom in new york. people are saving more but then what? >> right. that's exactly the problem.
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thank goodness people are saving more. what do you do with maybe say, $1,000? a round number that you might have set aside. money magazine has some creative ideas on how to spend or invest it. the first suggestion is to buy a no load stock bond. these three have a minimum investment of only $1,000. that's unusual because most minimums are closer to $2,500. let's look at the five-year returns. close to 6%, which is pretty good. meridian is 4.3. and select america is only two. that's not bad considering the stou itself was off 33% last year. also another idea, spend a few hours with a fee only financial planner. they typically charge about $150 to $250 an hour. if you're not sure where to find one, garrett planning network.com is a great place to start. this is also a great time, people wouldn't have thought of this, to upgrade your appliances. there are plenty of highly rated ones that cost less than $1,000. the epa says replacing old models with energy star appliances can actually save you
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$75 a year on average. and there might be some rebates that will be rolling out in the next few months and they could be worth as much as $250 on some appliances. >> okay. you mentioned the $1,000. we've all heard you have to spend money to make money. sole let's just stick with that figure. how can a thousand dollars help your career? >> this is more about self-improvement. this is about investing in yourself and maybe even distinguishing yourself in the workplace and that eventually is worth a lot. if you spend about $450 on a class, you mute learn a foreign language or maybe enroll in an improv class that might hem with public speaking. if you spend another $300, you can buy two hours with an exec you have the coach. that will help you define your career goals. the rest can go to networking. maybe you take someone you admire out to lunch which is a lovely thing to do or maybe invest a little in your work wardrobe. experts say that "you should dress for the job you want, not just the job you have." for more ideas on how to spend
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$1,000 even if you've got it, $10,000. check out cnn money.com. >> giving me the thumb up to go spend money on clothes. my husband is going to love you. thank you so much, felicia. dolly parton is one of the most successful country artists of all time and she is such a hoot, isn't she? she has had 25 number one hits. 45 tom ten country albums. reportedly will sold 100 million records worldwide. tonight joy behar talks to her. and one of the tommics is her popularity among the gay community. >> a very big gay following. why do you think that is? what do they like about you so much? >> i think it is because they know that i'm different, too. and that it took me a long time to be accepted. and i think that they just kind of relate to that. and plus a lot of my gay guy friends, you know, they love to dress up or they're very sensitive and creative and i think they relate to that side of me as well.
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i think they just appreciate the fact that i just love everybody for who they are. we're not supposed to try to change people. we should allow people to be who they are and love them as they are. >> so that, would you say you are pro gay marriage? i'm just curious. your background would say otherwise. >> i know that's true. i always say why can't they get married? they should suffer like the rest of us do. >> i think she's a hoot. catch the full interview on the "joy behar show" at 9:00 bm right here on hln. a woman in california has made it her full-time job to give thanks to the troops. the uncredible story of operation gratitude in this report on breakthrough women. >> reporter: carolyn is a one-woman uso. she's on a mission to bring smiles to the men and women serving our country. >> a volunteer nonprofit organization that sends care
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packages to service members overseas. >> reporter: she was inspired by a service person she met in 2003. >> he had no one in his life. i thought to myself, i need to let him and every service member know people at home care about them. >> reporter: she started sending care packages out of her home. >> within a few weeks, my house is literally covered. with items that people donated. >> reporter: she recruited volunteers and now holds package drives in an armory outside l.a. which even draws celebrities. >> you find that a whole lot of people would love to help. >> reporter: in six years, she has shipped close to 500,000 packages. >> absolutely unbelievable, what one woman can do. it is infectious. >> reporter: she even traveled to iraq to hand dlufr the 300,000th one. >> it was time for me to get back to my country. this is my way of doing it.
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we told you the alleged master mind of the 9/11 attacks will be tried in civilian court blocks away from ground zero in new york. so a lot of you have been chiming in on whether you had this is a good idea. we want to hear more from you on this. richelle carey, i know you've had a lot of good discussions. >> very good asking you. people are bringing up thing, maybe the other side didn't think of. we'll to go florida first. she has been holding patiently from florida. we've been asking the question, what do you think about the 9/11 suspects being held, a couple areas. specifically civilian court and specifically obviously in new york as well. so i understand you don't like this idea. >> caller: i totally don't like this idea. it it is an outrage that
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president obama is extending known terrorists the rights of american citizens in the interim, endangering our citizens here. the citizens of new york who have already sacrificed enough and have seen enough of foreign entities trying to kill them. and we are going to extend the ruts of american citizens to them. we're going to spend the money. we're going to take months of evidence to be presented while we're a sitting target for anybody who wants to make a name for themselves. >> let me stop you real quick so we can get to other people. i understand your point. so you have safety concerns and you don't think they deserve the same kind of trial we would have. is the option, would you have preferred for some sort of tribunal to have occurred in
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guantanamo bay? >> caller: absolutely. >> caller: i don't buy it is more than they deserve. i'm not convinced by anyway what so have that we've gotten the truth. i've heard far too many time that for bounty, people sold enmu and people that we had a feud into this awful system. number one. number two -- >> to this awful system being what? what awful system? >> caller: the system, the extraordinary rendition where people were taken to some 200 because. >> indiana. rendition is a separate topic. you're saying you're not even convinced that khalid shaikh mohammed and the other alleged c co-conspirators are the right people. >> i'm not suggesting khaled himself. the one thing i know is that dead men tell no tale.
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the concept that the administration is even suggesting the death penalty is preposterous. as long as he stay in bring, try at this point in time, not military. >> all right. michael, we'll have to go. i appreciate your comment. got a lot of comments as well on my faus book page. we want to try to get as many of though as we can. let go. jackill says this. he said straight to death. not straight to the point. so tell us what you think about
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trying the suspects in a civilian court. do you prefer some other option? e-mail us or call us. people saying, how do you find a fair jury, too? s .
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we have some new developments we want to share with you in the case of a missing if girl. police in fayetteville, investigators still tone know where she is. that's the thing. shaniya was spotted with this man just an hour after she disappeared on tuesday. she was actually seen with him in a hotel 40 miles away from her home. this is the surveillance have you haddo police used from the hotel to confirm their identities. with mcneill's arrest, kidnapping charges have been dropped against the man police
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had arrested on wednesday. again, the big thing is that police are still looking for this little girl. shaniya's father says he wants his little girl back home safe. >> i just ask that they bring her home safe. we all miss her and love her very much. if you're listening to daddy, i miss you so much, honey, and i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up. you don't give up either, honey. >> authorities could learn more of when mcneill makes his first court appearance this afternoon. five alleged september 11 plotters are headed to u.s. soil to be tried in a civilian court. the attorney general eric holder says they will seek the death penalty against self-confessed mastermind khalid shaikh mohammed and four other detainees. the civilian trials aren't expected to be easy. the justice department has reveal they were waterboarded which will likely pose legal problems for prosecutors. the trials are part of president
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obama's plan to eventually close the u.s. prison camp in cuba. he spoke about the decision today during his visit to tokyo. i am absolutely convinced that khalid shaikh mohammed will be subject to the most exacting demands of justice. the american people insist on it. >> earlier i asked international law and criminal defense attorney about tricky legal issues ahead in this case. if this is a civilian trial, how do you find a jury? >> right. if i'm a defense counsel, the first thing i will ask for is a change in venue. you'll say how can you get a fair trial in new york a couple. miles away from the world trade center? however, it has happened before. it is adult to get a change in venue. and obviously, jurors will have
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heard about what happened but they have to be impartial and fair. >> can you get a fair jury anywhere in the united states at this point? really? >> well, realistically that's how the system works. you're going to have to try the case in the united states. it is unclear whether you can get that fair trial but it has happened before. they will try to get an impartial jury and a judge will make sure that the jury will be impartial. >> when the men go on trial in the southern district of new york, they will be just blocks from where the world trade center fell. the actual transfer of the prisoners from new york, that is not expected to happen for several week. formal charges haven't been filed against most of them. so do you think trying them in new york is the right thing to do or would you have preferred they face military juts at guantanamo bay? e-mail us at cnn.com/hln or give us a call.
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you can text us at hlntv or to go my facebook page. alleged ft. hood gunman may be permanently paralyzed from the waist down. he was shot four times during the shooting spree last week. he is in intensive care at brook army medical center in san antonio. his civilian lawyer talked with him for about an hour yesterday. >> he is not ambulatory. he is paralyzed at least from the waist down. my understanding is that there is no immediate likelihood that will change. >> hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. 43 people were wounded and army investigators say hasan could face more charges, including the death of one soldier's unborn child. we now know hasan had e-mail contact with a radical imam. he wrote web postings about suicide bombings six months ago and delivered a presentation in 2007 about muslim soldiers with
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religious conflicts. so after all that, why did no one raise a red flag? anderson cooper posed that very question to a former jag attorney last night. >> within the last 10, 20 years, the army has vigorously pursued equal opportunity complaints. it is not just based on religion. it can be based on sex, rape, ethnicity, much to its credit. if you're an officer and you're moving up the ranks of the chain of the command in the military, the quickest way of sabotaging your career could be to subject yourself to an equal opportunity complaint. so let's say hypothetically that you're in mid thole upper level officer. you're sitting in that briefing room at walter reid while major hasan is giving that power point presentation and making these outlandish remarks. you have to question yourself, do i want to come forward with this and risk my own career, even assuming that the higher ups do investigate it. what if that investigate leads
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nowhere and says, hey, he was out there and expressing his own first amendment rights to free speech and rights to religion. well, if you're left holding the bag and then you're allowing yourself to be followed with this reputation, sort of being bigoted or showing religious intolerance, that will be absolutely at the time rimtal to your army career. >> amid talks some agencies failed to koord and track him, robert muler is investigating if the bureau should have handled it differently. as expected, richard heene entered a guilty plea today in connection with last month's balloon boy hoax. he and his wife appeared in a larimer county court where he answered to a felony charge. >> as to the attempt to influence a public servant, count one, the only count that's been filed here, how do you plead? >> guilty. >> his wife pled guilty to one misdemeanor count of false reporting to authorities. the heenes' attorneys say they
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have the possibility of up to 90 days in jail for richard. up to 60 days in jail for his wife. million of you watched with us across the country, captivated by the couple's claim that their son had floated away in this balloon. of course, he was at home the whole time. faking cancer in order to get breast implants? outrageous allegations, i know, against a texas woman. why a local newspaper said she hatched this scheme in the first place.
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about 200 members of the air national guard are back home. the 115th fighter wing returned to wisconsin yesterday. obviously to such a warm
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welcome. >> kind of hard to explain, really. >> is there something -- >> i would say living pretty much the normal life. kind of like a groundhog day over there. you do the same thing and just good to be back in the normal life. >> i think our country needs to give them a debt of gratitude. our thanks and appreciation. they have such a willingness to do whatever is asked. >> the 115th spent the last two months in iraq and they had already been deployed to iraq and afghanistan three times before. so thank you so much for your service. glad that you're home. listen to this one. faking cancer to get breast implants. sarah talbert of cnn affiliate explains the outrageous allegations against one texas woman. >> reporter: the 24-year-old had a biopsy on one of her breasts performed back in february. that came back neglect you have the for cancer. the sheriff's department says just a few months later, she had shaved her head bald, telling
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people she had been diagnosed with breast cancer. a benefit was even held at the ice house in her honor. the sheriff's department says at least $10,000 was raised, if not more. i'm told once she got the money, she went to a waco plastic surgeon wanting a breast augmentation. the doctor became suspicious when he looked through her medical records, to find out she did not have breast cancer or cancer at all. he took her down payment of just over $3500 and with the help of his attorney, contacted the sheriff's department who i'm told had staff members who even attended the been put the and donated money. >> they believed that the story was true. that this person was affected by cancer. that was going to have to have her breast removed and wanted to help get her back on track, open the it aing to help cover the cost of not only the surgery that it would require, be required, but also, to help pay for bills and things of that
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thought while she was off work. >> reporter: she was brought in for questioning and upon further investigation, confessed to officials, she did not have cancer and was not receiving chemotherapy. she told police she and her husband were having marital problems and she thought a breast augmentation would help mend their marriage. >> again, our thanks to the cnn affiliate this. she has been arrested and charged with theft by deception. we always want to thank our i-reporters for everything you do. especially those of you who are soaked along the mid-atlantic coast. the area as you know was slammed by remnants of tropical storm ida, couples with a major nor'easter. so the problem is flooding today. look at these incredible images sent in to us by erich krueck. he and his girlfriend got creative, they escaped their flooded home by a kayak. he said the water at their tour step was four feet deep. he said a lot of cars are also
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underwater. thank you so much to you and your girlfriend. i'm glad you're safe. things aren't any better in norfolk. an i-reporter says streets have been turned into rivers in the historic district. as you can see here, he says the flooding is the worst he's ever seen. >> this is insane. i've never seen it this bad. all the storms we've had, just this absolutely abandoned. this is freaky. people going by. >> something to see. when you have pictures of video breaking news, cool stories from your part of the world, to go cnn.com and click on i-report. you'll find complete instructions on how to submit your stories to cnn. thank you so much for doing so. you're probably going what is that? novelist stephen king stopped by hln to talk to robin meade.
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he offered her a sneak peek of his new book, under the dome. >> under the dome it's called. it is set in maine, a tiny town. this bubble come down and boom, people are locked inside. this becomes a problem, how so on so many different levels? >> well, it becomes a problem because nobody can get in. nobody can get out. so the food supplies that are there are the food supplies. there's no electricity because when the dome comes down, it cuts all the lines. the government cuts the phones. they do have some internet and they have some tv. one of the things that i had fun with, there are a lot of news peel in this. because an event like that would pull everybody off all their beats. so i had a chance to put in all my cnn people. >> you can catch the interview monday morning on hln. former alaska governor sarah palin isn't sugar coating her feelings about those who ran senator john mccain's campaign. according to the associated press, her new book includes
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details about the rumored tensions between the two camps. the ap says she appears upset about being charged $50,000 to pay for the cost of vetting her, as mg's running mate. the general counsel for mccain's campaign refutes that claim. saying palin was never asked to pay the legal bill. palin release ad statement on her facebook page about the ap reporting on what is contained in the book. palin by the way will appear on oprah monday. the day before palin's memoir going rogue hits stores. a mother of five kids reportedly was having some money problems. the fbi says she came up with one desperate solution.
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the centers for disease control and prevention has sickened 22 million americans since april and killed 540 children and there is still not enough vaccine available to everyone who wants it. last night, cnn's campbell brown
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took on the assistant attorney general about the delay in getting the shots to the people who need it most. >> the president did declare this a national emergency, so shouldn't the buck stop with you? shouldn't you guys have come up with a better distribution plan? >> i think that stauts and cities are in the best position to reach their populations and i think everyone is working very hard each day to try to do better. we hate the fact that some people are looking for vaccine and can't find it. people are waiting in lines. a good thing is people who haven't been able to get vaccinated who have tried to tell us that they are planning to continue looking. nine out of ten people say they're not giving up. they will continue to seek vaccine and each day more vaccine is getting out there. >> i hear you but i guess, you know, what happens when we have a really deadly pandemic? are we going to be having this same conversation? or are you guys trying to learn something from this so we can do it better next time? >> i am totally committed to learning from our experiences. and we know that in the long run, investing in new
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technologies and ways to more reliably produce large amounts of vaccine quickly will help. one of the biggest challenges here was we had a virus emerge in april. and never go away. and we were trying to prevent it with vaccine that takes at least six to nine months to make. so while we have vaccine, it is not as much as we would like. >> the 42 million doses of the vaccine are now available. a few million less than the cdc had predicted last week. surrounded by tight security, the man suspected of killing at least 11 women appeared in an ohio courtroom today. but not for any of their deaths. anthony sowell was charged for allegedly assaulting a woman back in september, and that led police to his home where the remains of 11 people were found. he pleaded not guilty. a judge set his bond at $1 million. that adds to the $5 million bond set last week. police say they've arrested a bank robber wanted by the fbi. take a look at the suspect here. she's a california mother of
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five kids. authorities believe she hit at least four banks and neighbors say they're just shocked. >> she has a little girl who has been missing her mom. it is going to be not around fo0 or 15 years. >> her luck ran out after they nab ad chase bank and they busted her in the getaway vehicle with evidence inside that linked her to the robbery. he stepped down from his ministry three year ago after his sex scandal. last night he hosted a prayer meeting at his house in colorado. >> because of the nature of the problem years ago, i think that some people just want to come because they've been following what i've been doing the last year.
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and i think it's going to be a time of prayer and worship. a student's haircut got him suspended from school. dustin was sent immediately to the principal's office when he showed up with a cincinnati bengals sign in his hair. he'll be can kept in in-school suspension until his hair grows out. administrators say they've given him warnings about his hair in the past. the boy says he's done nothing wrong. >> it's just a haircut. it ain't drugly related. it ain't got no guns. ain't got no cuss words or stuff like that. why they worried about it. >> his parents say it's unfair and they're proud of him. reporters go to great lengths or depths to put stories
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in context. take the severe flooding in the mid atlantic yesterday. you can see kurt williams putting it into perspective. a what a trooper, kurt. nice job. we have more intense flood pictures for you, too. stay close.
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no. the 9/11 suspects are going on trial just blocks for the trade site. a north carolina man admits to kidnapping 5-year-old shaniya davis. why is the little girl still missing? >> will the infamous balloon boy's mom and dad see jail time? hln news and views. i'm richelle carey. thank you for your time as always. big time story of the daf.
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eric holder announced the justice department will seek the death penalty against the self-confessed master mind khalid mohammed and four other detainees. mohammed was apparently waterboarded. this is part of the plan to eventually close down the u.s. prison camp in guantanamo bay, cuba. the american justice system can work even in this difficult case. >> i expect that we will try them together. i expect it through a really searching complete process that we can come up with a jury that ensure the defendants will get a fair trial in new york. >> they'll be just blocks away from where the world trade center towers fell.
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the actual transfer of the prisoners to new york may not happen for several weeks. formal charges have not been filed against most of them. the alleged gunman may be paralyzed from the waist down. he's been in intense i care in san antonio. his civilian lawyer talked with him yesterday for about an hour. >> he's paralyzed. at least from the waist down. and my understanding is that there's no immediate likelihood that's going to change. >> often a charge of 13 counts of premade dated murder. army investigators say he could face more charges including the death of one soldier's unborn child. brand new developments in the case of a missing 5-year-old girl in north carolina. police in fayetteville says a
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man has admitted to kidnapping shaniya davis, but they still don't know where she is. she was spotted just an hour after she disappeared on tuesday. she was seen with him in a hotel 40 miles for her home. police used surveillance video from the hotel to confirm their identities. kidnapping charges have been dropped against the man police arrested on wednesday. >> i won't be able to go into detail about the search. i can tell you we're receiving new leads all the time again since the footage was aired last night we receive ad lot of phone call. every single phone call has to be followed up on. we continue to follow up on all leads and tips that we have. >> the police are still again looking for shaniya. they could learn more some time this afternoon. tonight nancy grace will have all the late breaking
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developments in the search for this 5-year-old tonight at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern time here on hln. the man accused of kidnapping an 11-year-old girl and holding her captive for 18 years has apologized. from his jailhouse cell phillip garrido said he wanted to apologize to every human being for what has taken place. garrido and his wife are accused of holding jaycee dugard in a compound behind her home in california. police say garrido fathered dugard's two daughters. as expected richard and mayumi heene entered guilty pleas today in connection with the balloon boy hoax. they were in a courtroom in colorado earlier today where richard heene answered to a felon charge. >> as to the attempt to influence a public ser vent, count one, the only count that's been filed here, how do you plead? >> guilty.
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>> now mayumi heene is charged with a in additimisdemeanor cou. still no possibility of up to 90 days in jail for richard heene and up to 60 dies in jail for his wife. he told h judge he understood he might have to pay restitution for the hoax. the price tag for the balloon pursuit is at least $62,000. accused 911 conspirators will get a fair trial in new york. we'll have your views.
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today we've been asking your your views on the attorney general's decision to bring five guantanamo bay detainees to new york to try them at civilian court for their alleged roles in
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the 9/11 attacks. eric holder says thinks they can be in a new york prison. >> those responsible for the attacks of september 11th will finally face justice. they will be brought to new york to answer for their alleged crimes in a courthouse just blocks away from where the twin towers once stood. i am confident in the ability of the courts to provide a fair trial, just as they have over 200 years. >> is a civilian trial in new york a good idea? bill and gail voiced their comments on our views cam. let's listen to them. >> the best thing that we can do is have a very public an open trial for their crimes. this is the appropriate way to deal with it.
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not through some secret tribunal some place where we never get to hear why these things happened and to understand what really motivated this to happen. >> i think america should show how strong and uniteded we are to bring them back to this the scene of the crime and give them the justice they deserve. one comment from kimmy. she does not agree with bill or gail. shs what kimmy says. they should be tried in guantanamo and not be allowed to set foot on american soil. she thinks it's disrespectful to the families of those who were murdered in new york and all the 9/11 victims. feed them to the sharks, i say. pamela says this is a war crime and should be charged as such. civilian courts are too soft. charles has been holding from
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florida. charles, you do have particular concer concerns about civilian court, don't you in. >> caller: i don't like bringing them back into new york because of the possible threat to our -- from terrorists in the court system. trying to blow that um. does it sound logical to bring them to a civilian court? no, these people don't play by our rules. in a civilian court, you know, you can have a judge that could let them go because maybe they were somehow done some wrong. waterboarding or whatever. you could have a smart lawyer to get them off. i don't think any of them should get off. >> charles, basically you think there's too many uncontrollable variables there. thank you for the phone call. one more caller quickly. rose is holding from south carolina. rose, you think it is a good
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option to bring them to new york for a civilian trial. >> absolutely. bring them over here. we're ready for them. in the meantime while they're waiting they need to be put in the island. >> so people have concerns about housing someone that is a high risk inmate. you think it's fine? >>. >> caller: absolutely. put them there. general population would love them. >> rose i think you're thinking something else you're just not saying out loud. what do you think about bringing the suspects to new york to try them in civilian court? other people think this is exactly the way to go. e-mail us at cnn.com/hln. president obama is in tokyo right now making his first trip to japan as president. concerns about the committee are on top of the week long visit to asia. on the first leg of his trip he
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called the u.s. and japan equal partners and says the u.s. plays an important role in the region. now he heads to singapore later in the trip to meet some 20 asian leaders at a summit. the republican national committee will no longer offer employees an insurance plan that covers elective abortion. yesterday the organization told the provider to drop the coverage. it's been included in the rnc's plan since 1991. the rnc chairman said he didn't know that until a story was published on politico.com. a mother of five kids reportedly was having money problems. the fbi said she came up with a desperate solution. robbing banks.
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surrounded by tight security. the man suspected of killing at least 11 women appeared in a ohio courtroom today. not for any of their deaths. anthony sowell was charged with
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sexually assaulting a woman back in september. that's what led police to his home where the remains of 11 people were found. sowell pleaded not guilty. the judge set his bond at a million dollars adding to the $5 million set last week. five men from one family sitting in jail in missouri. all suspected of participating in child sex abuse for years. this group has a 77-year-old father and four adult sons. they appeared in court yesterday as the charges against them were read. unthinkable charges. they include rape, bestiality, and forcing a child into a fake marriage. this abuse reportedly happened between 1988 and 1995. word of the alleged crimes has left neighbors horrified. >> we've lived in this neighborhood for years. he's been a neighbor for years. and who would ever suspect that? you know, it's just amazing. >> they are being held on cash bonds that range from $30,000 to
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$75,000. they have another court hearing on tuesday. authorities continue to search an area where the family once lived looking for additional evidence. a sixth suspect, an associate the family was arrested yesterday on suspicion of child rape. i'm jane velez-mitchell. here's my issue. a story so evil it defies comprehension. five grown males all from the very same family have been charged with sexually abusing, raping and sodomizing six children from their own families. forcing children to engage in bestiality and mock weddings. look at these men. they're accused of doing the most unthinkable things to children. their own flesh and blood. but perhaps the most disturbing part of this entire case, three of these men were ministers in the community of christ church. how is that for a toxic secret? how does this happen?
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this church not only needs a full blown investigation, but they need to do some soul searching to uncover how someone inside their community could allegedly something so evil right under their nose. i'm jane velez-mitchell. that's my issue. >> find out what else jane has on her mind. watch issues every night at 7:00 eastern time here on hln. tony alamo has been sentence ed 175 years in prison. he was convicted of taking children across state lines for sex and taking child brides. he's been in federal custody since he was caught after a raid on his compound last year. he was the leader of the tony alamo christian ministry. the man convicted in the 2008 beating death of an arkansas tv news anchor mr. spend the rest of his life in prison. jurors deliberated for three hours before deciding the
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punishment for curtis lavelle vance. anne pressly was the victim. >> nothing that's been done here will every bring ann back. we'll never see her smile. we'll never hear her laugh. we'll never know the joy of her presence with us until we see her again in heaven. vance's mother told the jury she abused him as a child including a beating that may have caused brain damage. police arrested a bank robber wanted by the fbi. look at the suspect. she's a california mother of five kids. authorities believe roxanne pennock hit at least four banks. her neighbors are shocked. >> her little girl is going to be missing her mom. it's going to be really sad if she's not around for 10 or 15
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years. >> financial crisis pushes people to the most extreme. >> she allegedly robbed a chase bank last week. police busted her in the getaway vehicle. a red mini van. a man in north eastern san diego calls this a hate crime by post-it notes. his family is jewish. he woke up to find his daughter's car covered with post-its. some said jesus loves you, pig, oink. his neighborhood has seen his share of religious intolerance. including property damage and a series of break-ins at a high school last year. the man doesn't know why they were targeted. police refuse to write a note dismissing this as a kid's prank. small business owners are having a tough time in the economy. clark howard has some tips on
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where to turn for some help. >> through this recession we've been in it seems that everybody has been there to help people in big businesses try to get through. what about if you're a small business or entrepreneur? who is there for you? it feels like you've been left alone to try to survive tough economic times. however, there is help out there. what about assembling your own kitchen cabinet? people you gather together who you trust who maybe have a business background or are just very experienceexperienced. there are a number of more formal groups. for example score. they have chapters all over america. there's new groups to help people who are just women business owners try to survive the tough times.
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get your kitchen cabinet together to make a difference. i'm clark howard. for more ways i try to make a difference with your wallet go to cnn.com/clark howard. >> did you know that he serves in the georgia state guard? this weekend you'll see him serving the troops. clark and robin meade of money express team up to help soldiers and you save more, spend less, and avoid getting ripped off. a muslim soldier serving in afghanistan gives his take on the the shooting at ft. hood.
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the justice department will seek the death penalty against khalid mohammed and four other detainees. the civilian trials will likely not be easy. the justice department has revealed he and others were waterboarded. . the trial has been a part of president obama's plan to close the prison camp in cuba. he spoke about the decision today during his visit to toek y
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ya. >> i'm absolutely convinced that khalid mohammed will be subject to the most exacting dmapds of justic justice. >> when the men go on trial in the southern district court of snooi they'll be just blocks from where the world trade centers fell. nearly 3,000 were killed in the attacks on new york and washington. and it looks like the obama administration will not meet own headlines to close the detention center. the president initially planned to have that shut down by january 22nd. well, attorney general holder explained why that probably won't happen.
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>> one of the things that i think is most problematic in the guard is trying to relocate good people who are going to be approved for transfer. finding places where they can be safely placed both for the nation that will host them and for american citizens. i'm not sure we're going to be complete the process by january 2nd, thoer we are in the process of trying to do exactly that. >> what do you think about trying the 9/11 suspects in civilian court in new york? do you think this is the right thing to do? some people say you don't think it's safe. or you can comment on my facebook page. richelle carey, hln. we'll be sharing your views ahead. as expected, richard and mayumi heene entered guilty pleas in connection with last
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month's balloon boy hoax. they appeared in a larimer county, colorado, court today where richard heene answered to a felon charge. >> as to the attempt to influence a public servant, count one, the only count filed here, how do you plea? >> guilty. >> okay. >> mayumi heene is charged with one misdemeanor count of false reporting. they say prosecutors have agreed to a sentence of probation with the possibility of up to 90 days in jail for richard heene and 60 days in jail for his wife. he said he understood he may have to pay restitution for the hoax. how much money? apparently the price tag for that is $62,000. sarah palin's new book is already a best selling "going rogue." it hasn't even hit the shelves. that's going to happen tuesday. deputy political director is
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here to talk about what's in it. i love the title "going rogue" it's a great title. what do we know about what is in the book? we know it doesn't hit the shelves until tuesday. somebody has their hands on it. there was bad blood between sarah palin and her closest advisers and the mccain campaign officials. on sarah palin's facebook page she said the associated press is reporting the contents of the book. keep your powder dry, read the book and enjoy it. hold on. wait until next week when the book comes out and read it. >> read the book. read the book. >> is this about her future
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political aspiration? . that's what you do when you write a book. does she want to use this as a spring board i think it's too early to really get a sense of whether she's going all the way for the big job in 2012. >> people earlier had questions for them. they put them on facebook page. this is one man's concern. how does she, being sarah palin, feel about her grandchild's dad, posing nude. can it affect her chances for the presidency? i don't know that we know how we feel about levi and the magazine i'm not talking about anymore. in general, does this affect people's perception of her as a presidential candidate? >> it may in some aspects. put her in a favorable light. she's dealing with a difficult family situation. some people may agree with the
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way she's handling it. you want to talk about where you're going to take the country, your ideas, your message, the issues. those are two names that got far last time. today he's in south carolina. interesting state in the primary process. mitt romney is out. speaking to a young conservative group tonight. it's the preseason of the next race for the white house. these people are keeping busy. >> i like the way you put that.
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the fourth shooting suspect said to be paralyzed. how serious his injuries are and what his attorney says about the chances he'll walk again.
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the alleged ft. hood gunman may be permanently paralyzed from the waist down. major nidal hasan was shot four times last week. the civilian lawyer talked with him yesterday for about an hour. >> he's not -- he's paralyzed. at least from the waist down. my understanding is there's no immediate likelihood that that's
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going to change. >> hasan is charged with three counts of premeditated murder. he could face more charges including the death of one soldier's unborn child. well, on thanksgiving night we'll be announcing your choice for the cnn hero of the year. until then friends of the top ten extraordinary individuals who will be honored are telling us more about this. today jewel enters jorge munez. >> this is cnn heros. >> hi, i'm jewel. two years ago i had the honor of serving on the blue ribbon panel that helps select the top cnn heros of 2007. as founder of project clean water which works to include quality of life for millions of people to help find clean water. i'm thrilled to help introduce a top ten honoree. now more than ever the world
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needs heros. >> there's no money to eat. >> i live on the street. >> when you're hungry, you're hungry. that's it. four years ago i see those guys standing out like they're desperate. they need to eat. my name is jorge munoz. every night i bring food to the hungry in queens, new york. i'm born in colombia. i'm a school bus driver. when i come back around 5:15 my second job starts. prepare the meals, pack them up. seven days a week. i'll help anyone who needs to eat.
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>> pretty impressive. go to cnn.com/heros and vote for the hero that inspires you the most. the top ten will all be honored by an all-star group. north carolina police say someone admits to taking this 5-year-old girl. so where is shaniya?
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police in fayetteville says a man has admitted to kidnapping shaniya davis. investigators still don't know where she is. shaniya was seen with this man just an hour after she disappeared on tuesday. she was seen with him in a hotel about 40 miles the from her
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home. police used surveillance video from the hotel to confirm their identities. kidnapping charges have been dropped against the man police arrested wednesday. police are still looking for shaniya. her father says he wants his little girl back home safe. >> i just ask they let her go and bring her home safe. we all miss her and love her very much. if you're listening to daddy, i miss you so much, honey. and i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up, and you don't give up either, honey. >> authorities could learn more when mcneil makes his first court appearance in afternoon. the man suspected of killing at least 11 women appear inside a ohio courtroom today. not for anies. he was formally charged in
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allegedly sexually assaulting a woman back in september. that's what led police to his home where the remains of 11 people were found. sowell pleaded not guilty. a judge set his bond at a million dollars adding to the $5 million bond set last week. evangelist tony alamo has been sentenced to 175 years in prison. he was convicted for taking young girls across state lines for sex and taking some of them as child brides. he was on trial in texarkana, arkansas. he had been in federal custody after a raid on his compound last year. pretty good chance you're tired of earning less than 1% on a cd or money market account. there's got to be a better way to make the most of your cash. felicia taylor, people are saving more. that's good. i know they want a reward for that. i know i do. >> i know. and half of 1% isn't so great when you look at a cd.
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let's look. if you have $1,000 set aside. money magazine has creative ideas on how to spend or invest it and get a better rate of return. first, buy a no load stock fund. these three have a minimum investment of only $1,000. that's unusual because usually the min numb is $2,500. let's look at the five-year returns. not bad. the large cap is almost 6%. considering the dow tanked 33% last year, not bad. spend a few hours with a see only financial planner. they typically charge $150 to $250 an hour. if you're not sure where to find one, this is a good place to start. most people wouldn't have thought of this. it's also a great time to upgrade your appliances. there are plenty of highly rated ones that cost less than $1,000. replacing old models with the
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energy star appliances can actually save about $75 a year on average. and there might be hefty rebates rolling out in the next few months. they could be worth as much as 250 on some appliances. >> hearing about the rebates. keeping an eye on those for sur sure. >> so this is about self-improvement. if you spend about $450 on a class, maybe learning a foreign language or taking an improve class that might help you with public speaking, it could pay off down the road. another $300 can buy you two hours with an executive coach. that could help develop career goals for you may not have thought off. the rest can go to networking. maybe take someone you admire out to lunch dinner. or your invest a little bit in
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your work wardrobe. experts say dress for the job you want, not necessarily the job you have. for more ways on how to appropriately spend $1,000. not something i would come up with. >> thank you, have a great weekend. money expert clark hao wards serves in the georgia state guard. this weem you'll see him serving our troops in operation clark smart. he's teaming up with morning express's robin meade to help soldiers and you save more, spend less, and avoid getting ripped off. this is a soldier who wanted to invest in something other than the military version of a 401(k). >> i'm over here with staff sergeant isaac rios. thank you for your service. he heard you talk. he wants to know about other good investments. like what? >> any other investment that you
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recommend, just to get a little bit more money. >> if you have more money. >> let's say you already have it. >> and you want to add more money. >> what are other investments you know investments. >> i got it. all right. i've got $5,000 for me right now? >> yeah. >> okay. good. because you you can do -- >> everybody's head swivelled. where? let me see? >> who has 5,000? you can do up you to 5,000 each calendar year in an account called a roth. roth is my favorite savings vehicle because you put in this money, this up to 5 grand, if you're married you can do 5 an 5. an you don't have to do 5. that's just a ceiling. but you put money into this and listen to this, you never get taxed on that money. everything you earn on it tax-free. when you spend it, you spend it
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tax-free. you can take money you've got in savings, whatever it is, and put it into a roth account, and the tax-free advantage over time is gigantic. now, when are you you allowed to spend the money? when would you guess i'm going to let you spend the money? >> that was my next question. when can i spend it and when are the penalties? >> 59 1/2. how old are you now? >> 33. >> you would put the money in the roth. you've got to leave it in there for 26 years, but then everything that you have is your money to spend dollar for dollar, government is out of your life on taxing it. >> all right. you can watch operation clark smart this weekend at 6:00 a.m., noon and 4:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln. disney's profits are up. so are abercrombie & fitch's. jcpenney is doing even better. all that has boosted investor confidence. the dow is up 69 points at
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10,265. we'll keep you posted. you've heard of knock-off bags. how about knock-off animals? why folks are flocking to see these fake zebras.
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no military try bunal for the five suspects of september 11th. we'll tell you where they're going on trial. it has a lot of people outraged. we're wondering if you're one of them. your views on this story coming up. also, a north carolina man admits to kidnapping 5-year-old shaniya davis, but investigators, are they any closer to finding this little girl? plus, renowned author and the master of words stephen king opens to up robin meade with a sneak peek at his new book. i hope that this friday is treating you well. welcome to hln news and views. five alleged september 11th
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plotters are heading to u.s. soil. they'll be tried in a civil court. attorney general eric holder announced the justice department will seek the death penalty against 9/11 mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed and four others. the trials are not expected to be easy. they were with all waterboard rea ready, which will likely cause problems for prosecutors. holder says the american justice system can work even in this difficult case. >> i expect that we will try them together and i expect that through a really searching, complete voir dire process that we can come up with a jury that will ensure that the defendants will get a fair trial in new york. >> the men go on trial in the southern district court of new york. they will be just blocks from where the world trade center fell. nearly 3,000 people were killed in the attacks on new york and
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washington. and the actual transfer of the prisoners to new york may not happen for several weeks. we'll hear your views about these terror suspects in civilian courts in just a short while. meanwhile, it looks like the obama administration won't meet its deadline to close the detention center at guantanamo bay. president obama planned on it being closed by january 27th. eric holder explained today why that most likely won't happen. >> i think's going to be difficult to close the facility by january the 22nd. one of the things that i think is most problematic in that regard is trying to relocate the people who are going to be approved for transfer, finding places where they can be safely placed both for the nation that will host them and for the american citizens. i'm not sure we're going to be able to complete that process by january the 22nd, though we are constantly in the process of
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trying to do exactly that. >> holer says trying the five 9/11 terror suspects in new york is a key step toward closing guantanamo. other news for you, the alleged ft. hood gunman may be permanently paralyzed from the waist down. major any you tall hasan was shot four times during the shooting spree last week. he's hospitalized in intensive care at brook army medical center in san antonio. his civilian lawyer caulk talked with him for about an hour yesterday. >> he's not a.m. ambulatory. he's paralyzed. at least from the waist down. and my understanding is that there's no immediate likelihood that that's going to change. >> hasan is charged with 13 counts of murder. 43 people were wounded. army investigator rz say hasan could face more charges including the death of one soldier's unborn child. we do have brand new developments in the case of a missing 5-year-old north carolina girl. we want to share it with you.
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police in north carolina say a man has admitted to kidnapping shaniya davis, but the thing is, we still don't know where she is. shania was spotted with this man, mario andretti o'neal after hour after she disappeared in a hotel about 40 miles from her home. police used this surveillance video from the hotel to confirm their identities. with mcneal's arrest, kidnapping charges have been dropped against the man police had arrested wednesday. police had still looking, as i said, for that little girl. please take a good look at her picture. her father says he just wants his little girl back home safe. >> i just ask that they let her go and bring her home safe. we all miss her and love her very much. if you're listening to daddy, i miss you so much, honey, and i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up, and you don't give up either, honey. >> authorities could learn more when with mcneil makes had his first court appearance.
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>> tonight nancy grace has the latest developments in the search for the 5-year-old, tonight at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern. surrounded by tight security, that is the man suspected of killing at least 11 women. he appeared in an ohio courtroom today, but not for any of their deaths. anthony sowell was actually arraigned for allegedly sexually assaulting a woman back in september. that led police to his home where the remains of 11 people were found. sowell pleaded not guilty. a judge set his bond as $1 million, adding to the $5 million bond set last week. >> pf as expected, richard and mayumi heene entered guilty pleas in connection with last month's balloon boy hoax. they appeared in a colorado court earlier today where he answered to a felony charge. >> to the attempt to influence a public servant, count one, the only count that's been filed here, how do you plead? >> guilty. >> mayumi heene is charged with one misdemeanor count of false
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reporting to authorities. the heenes' authorities say probation has agreed to probation with a possibility of up to 90 days in jail for richard, 60 days in jail for his wife. richard heene toll the judge he understood he might have to pay restitution for this hoax. the price tag for the balloon pursuit, by the way? at least $62,000. multiple and significant threats prompted an atheist group to pull down a billboard in cincinnati. it read, "don't believe in god? you're not alone." the cincinnati inquirer quotes the leader of the coalition of reason as saying, "it proves our point, that bigotry against people who don't believe in a god it still very real in america." a similar billboard put up by the same group along a san diego highway is creating a lot of debate. one passer thinks it's actually a good thing because it opens conversations about god. but overall reaction is mixed. >> if you don't believe in god,
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we're letting them know they're not alone, that there's other people in this area like them. >> i am offended by it because that is a tacking somebody's belief. >> i've always believed in god, and i really don't like it. >> some people may respond negatively to the question, but that's not the point. we're not here to offend anybody. >> i'm excited that people are actually opening up the question of, is god real? everybody has to make a personal decision about if they're going to believe in god. i think the very fact that you're posing the question causes an expectation, causes an interest. >> the coalition of reason has put these billboards up in 14 different cities. the attorney general says accused 9/11 conspirators will get a fair trial in new york and justice will be served. do you agree with that? we'll have your views in just a moment.
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we've been talking about the alleged mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks and the fact that he and four others are going do be tried in civilian court. just blocks away from ground zero in new york. is this a good idea is the question we've been asking you today. richelle carey is here to tell us what some of you are saying. i've gotten a lot on my facebook, and i've got to tell you they're really kind of all over the spectrum because it's such an emotional issue. >> absolutely. there are people who support it, people who don't, people who don't want any kind of trial at all. it's been an interesting discussion all day. marie has been holding, calling us from new york state. marie, i understand that you don't like the idea of a civilian trial happening on u.s. soil, do you? >> caller: yes, that's exactly right. i believe new yorkers are being positioned under a dome of
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derangement syndrome and that they're not thinking about the ones that are still left behind that are coping with panic attacks and these events are going to trigger panic and anxiety on a conscious and unconscious level with regard to the survivors of all of this. i feel that it's an atrocity. >> so are you saying that because the trial would happen in new york? are you saying that because of a trial, peer jod? >> caller: i don't believe it should happen on u.s. soil. new york is going bankrupt as it is. why should we be subjected to psychiatric terrorism, on conscious and unconscious levels, and giving these people the satisfaction of spitting in our faces on our own soil. >> thank you. andy has been holing from north carolina. andy, i understand that you think the opposite from marie. you may have some concerns, but in general you're okay with the idea of a civilian trial. yes? >> caller: i actually believe
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that marie is totally wrong on this. i think that khalid sheikh mohammed committed an offense that was absolutely directed straight at the american people and he should be convicted by the american people. i think that what he did was an act of terror, but it was an act of terror directed specifically at the city of new york and that is absolutely where he should be tried, judged, and convicted. and i believe he will be convicted and sentenced to the maximum penalty of the law, which he deserves. and there is no other alternative. what are we going to do, send him back to his own country and let them deal with it? i think this is an american matter and it is something that should absolutely be handled by the american justice system. i think eric holder and the aclu are absolutely on target. >> thank you, andy. incredibly passionate people with about this, as you can understand why they would be.
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here are comments from my facebook page. ryan says, they don't deserve a jury of their peers because they're not u.s. citizens. i think a military court would be the correct place. let's not forget that they don't have the same rights as us on our soil nor should they. those are just some of the comments that we've been getting today on this. you can tell the passion in both callers' voices. >> isn't that the truth? there's a gentleman michael on my facebook page that says, is it a correct decision but a tough one for americans to swallow. due process is one of the cornerstone principles of our republic and must be honored in the most heinous of circumstances. >> this is where when it's tested. >> exactly. because it's so emotional for so many of us. thank you so much. happy friday, by the way. >> you, too. evangelist tony olamo was
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sentenced to 125 years in prison, convicted of taking young girls across state lines for sex and take some of them as child brides. he has been in federal custody since he was caught after a raid on his compound last year. he was the leader of tony olamo christian ministries. flames light up the night sky as a home with millions of dollars kbo s goes up the smoke. the fight to save this mansion from burning to the ground.
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look at this. that is a mansion in flames in scottsdale, arizona, just outside phoenix. the fire broke out this morning apparently and a person inside was able to get out thankfully. a local affiliate is reporting the home was some 8,000 square feet, listed on the market for nearly $4 million. firefighters say it's a total loss. no one was hurt, and there's no word on what started the fire. boy, some incredible pictures
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there. the minnesota father who gave a gun to his 13-year-old autistic son said he thought the boy was responsible enough to ha handle it, but the boy is accused of shooting two horses. they were grazing in a nearby past pasture when shots were fired. the owners found the horses bleeding from wounds. both are expected to survive, though. >> she has a shot here on her rear-end and then obviously she's got the one shot in her face. here in her shoulder and then it looks like she was grazed here. >> a boy was seen running away after that shooting. police are investigating but no charges have been filed. the father says he's now taken away the gun. police say they have arrested a bank robber wanted by the fbi. but get this. look at the suspect here. she's a california mother of five kids. roxanne reportedly hit at least four banks and neighbors say
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they're just shocked. >> she's got a little girl who is going to be missing her mom. it's going to be really sad if she's not around for the next 10, 15 years. >> financial crises, you know. that's all i can say. pushes people to the end, you know, to the most extreme. >> police say pennock's luck ran out after she allegedly robbed a chase bank. they busted her in the getaway car. the owner of a dog rescued from mikal vick's dogfighting crew, wants michael vick to come see the dog. his owner says the dog is still showing the mental scars and wants vick to see the impact of his crimes. >> i'd like to invite you, mr. vick, to come and see one with of your dogs. it would be a step in the right direction in proving his sincerity. i would hope to see in his eyes
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a true understanding of what he's done. >> the owner isn't the first to invite vick to meet one of his former fighting dogs. he declined a similar request when he played in the oakland area. i don't know if you realize today is friday the 13th. wasn't a jinx on the stock market. want to get the details at our business news desk in new york. >> yes, stocks finished the week higher despite a pair of weak economic reports. the u.s. trade deficit widened more than expected in september to $36.5 billion. that's an 18% increase from august. and the university of michigan's consumer sentiment index came in weaker than expected. but traders shrugged off those reports, helped by an upbeat profit report from walt disney, beating expectations posting an 18% jump in quarterly profit. disney shares rose almost 5%, the best gainer among the
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stocks. the dow rose 73 points to 10,270, the nasdaq gained and the broader s&p up a half of one%. aviation giant boeing announced another delay in the production of its 787 dreamliner. boeing said it has fixed the initial problem that prevented the plane from its maiden voyage, but in fixing that, engineers found a new one, metal bolts in the wings of a test plane caused minor cracking around the area. boeing's new plane is now more than two years behind schedule, costing the company hundreds of millions of dollars. ouch. have a great weekend. thank you. a student's haircut got his suspended from high school. he was sent immediately to the principal's office when he showed up with a cincinnati bengals design in his hair. the eighth grader was given an in-school suspension which means he'll do work in isolation until his hair grows back.
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administration says they've given him warnings in the past, but the boy says he's done nothing wrong. >> it's just a haircut. it ain't drug related. it ain't got no guns. i ain't got no cuss words. stuff like that. so why they worried about it? >> the parents say it's unfair and they're actually proud of him. look at this. the zebras that aren't really zebras at all, they're actually donkeys, painted to look like them. all right, maybe not a bad job. this is at the happy land zoo in gaza. why go through all the trouble? because of all the turmoil in that part of the world, it would with cost about $40,000 to get a real zebra into gaza. obviously it's worth it for those kids. they're loving life, loving the donkeys painted like zeeb raz. at least they know what they look like. we can see it almost every night, but there are still a lot of questions about the moon.
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what scientists have found that sheds new light on our nearest neighbor.
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police say a north carolina man has confessed to kidnapping a 5-year-old girl. but here's the thing. investigators still don't know where shaniya davis is. she was spotted with mario an dorellty mcneil just an hour after she disappeared, in a hotel 40 miles from her home. police used that surveillance video you just saw from the hotel to confirm their identities xs. this is mcneil who turned himself in today and is charged with kidnapping. his attorney says mcneil will plead not guilty. kidnapping charges have been dropped against clarence co, the
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man police originally arrested. the father of the little girl just wants his little girl back safe. >> i just ask that they let her go, bring her home safe. we all miss her and love her very much. if you're listening to daddy, i miss you so much, honey, and i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up, and you don't give up either, honey. >> mcneil's attorney says he has no idea if his client had a relationship with the girl or her mother. he also didn't comment on the little girl's whereabouts. nancy grace has the latebreaking developments in the search for shaniya davis. tonight at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern. five alleged september 11th plotters are headed to u.s. soil to be tried in a civilian court. attorney general eric holder announced today the justice department will seek the death penalty against self-confessed september 11th mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed and four other detainees. the civilian trials aren't expected to be easy.
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the justice department has revealed that mohammed and others were waterboarded so that will likely pose legal problems for prosecutors. the trials are partd of president obama's plan to eventually close the prison camp in cuba. he spoke about the decision today during his visit to tokyo. >> i'm absolutely convinced that khalid sheikh mohammed will be subject to the most exacting demands of justice. the american people will insist on it. my administration will insist on it. >> now, earlier i asked international law and criminal defense attorney jeffrey about the tricky legal issues ahead in this case now. if this is a civilian trial, how do you find a jury? >> right. if i'm a defense counsel, i will ask for a change of venue because you'll say, how do you get a fair trial in new york, a
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couple of miles away from the world trade center? however, it's happened before. it's difficult to get a change in venue, and obviously jurors will have heard about what happened. but they have to be impartial and fair. >> but can you get a fair jury anywhere in the united states at this point, jeffrey, really? >> realistically, that's how the system work and you'll have to try the case in the united states. it's unclear whether you can get that fair trial, but it's happened before. they will try to get an impartial jury and a judge will make sure that the jury will be impartial. >> you heard jeffrey mention it there, when the men go on trial in the southern district of new york, they will be just blocks from where the world trade center towerses fell. nearly 3,000 people were killed in the attacks on new york and washington. the actual transfer of the prisoners to new york may not happen for several weeks. formal charges vntd been filed against most of them. the alleged ft. hood gunman may be permanently paralyzed from the waist down. major nidal hasan was shot four
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times during the shooting spree last week. he's in intensive care in san antonio p. his civilian lawyer talked with him for about an hour yesterday. >> he's not ambulatory. he's paralyzed, at least from the waist down. and my understanding is that there's no immediate likelihood that that's going to change. >> hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. 43 people were wounded and army investigators say hasan could face more charges, including the death of one soldier's unborn child. as expected, richard and mayumi heene entered guilty pleas today in connection with last month's balloon boy hoax. they appeared in a larimer county court earlier today where he answered to a felony charge. >> as to the attempt to influence a public servant, count one, how do you plead? >> guilty. >> mayumi heene is charged of a
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misdemeanor. their attorney say prosecutors have agreed to a sentence of probation with the possibility of up to 90 days in jail for richard, up to 60 days in jail for his wife. richard heene also told a judge he understood he might have to pay restitution for the hoax. the price tag for the balloon pursuit, by the way? about $62,000. surrounded by tight security, this man, suspected of killing 11 women, appeared in an ohio courtroom today. not for any of their deaths, however. an than sowell was formally charged with allegedly sexually assaulting a woman in september. that led police to his home, where the remains of 11 people were found. sowell pleaded not guilty. a judge set his bond at $1 million adding to the $5 million bond set last week. former alaska governor sarah palin isn't sugar-coating her feelings about those who ran senator john mccain's campaign. according to the associated press, palin's new book includes details about the rumored tensions between the two camps.
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now, the ap says palin appears upset about being charged $50,000 to pay for the cost of vetting her as mccain's running mate. but the general counsel for mccain's campaign refutes the claim saying palin wasn't asked to pay that bill. palin released a statement on her facebook page. she says, as is expected, the ap and a number of media outlets are erroneously krort reporting the contents of the book. she goes on to say, keep your powder dry. read the book and enjoy it. palin will appear on the oprah winfrey show on monday, the day before her memoir "going rogue" hits stores. let me ask you, are you alone in believing that you're alone? a group in california says no. the new push to make atheists feel they belong.
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is this a good idea? richelle carey has been monitoring what you're saying about this. >> a very emotional topic, we all know. but there's been a really good discussion about this with the phone calls, the e-mails, facebook comments. got an e-mail i want to share with you from texas. this is from mary. mary says none of the 9/11 conspirators should ever step foot on american soil. to bring them to new york city for trial in a civilian court is a slap in the face to the 9/11 families an a mockery to the rest of america. there are other people who share this point of view. michael in florida e-mailed
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this, i am in favor of trying all the terror suspects in civilian courts. they will have a fair trial and hopefully after a conviction they will receive a just punishment. of course, we heard from attorney general eric hole e who said the exact thing. we have gale's comment. >> so i think that america should show how strong that we are and how united we are to bring them back to the scene of the crime and give them the justice that they deserve. >> shea doesn't think that. she says, i honestly do not think that they will get a real trial anywhere. shea says, their lawyers in a civil court will scream that their confession was coerced. other people have the sameme sentiment. keith wrote this, yes in new
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york it is where the 9/11 event happened so that is where they should be tried. and if it is not enough to convict, i have another case in d.c. and pennsylvania. so that is a sample of what people are saying today about this very understandably emotional topic. >> i had somebody write on my page, i do not think it's a good idea for the master miebd mind to be on trial in new york. i think it's dangerous. i think there's a fear amongst some people of bringing them to the united states, just in general, for safety purposes i guess. >> we have heard that. of course, other people will say there are other people that are equally as dangerous that have been housed here and it's been perfectly safe. >> the other big thing, is how do you find an impartial jury. >> right. >> good to see you, richelle. happy friday. well, dolly parton, speaking of happy, one with of the most successful country artists of all time and just a hoot, people. she's had 25 number one hits, 41 top ten country albums, reportedly sold 100 million
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records worldwide. well, tonight joy behar talks to the legendary entertainer. 1 of the topics is parton's popularity among the gay community. >> you have a very big gay following, dolly. why do you think that is? what do they like about you so much? >> well, i think it's because they know that i'm different, too, and that it took me a long time to be accepted. and i think that they just kind of relate to that. plus a lot of my gay guy friends, you know, they love to dress up or they're very sensitive and very creative. i think they relate to that side of me as well. but i think they just appreciate the fact that i just love everybody for who they are. we're not supposed to try to change people. we should allow people to be who they are and love them as they are. >> so, then, would you say that you you are pro-gay marriage? i'm just curious because your background would say otherwise. >> oh, i know that's true. i always say, hur sure, why can't they get married?
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they should kusuffer like the rt of us do. >> catch the full interview at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln. a billboard along a san diego highway is offending some people with a simple but very loaded message. it says, don't believe in god? you're not alone. now, this was put up by a group called the san diego coalition of reason. a similar billboard? cincinnati is reportedly being moved to a different spot because of alleged threats just two days after it was put up. hey, our money expert clark howard actually serves in the georgia state guard in case you didn't know. this weekend you'll see him serving our troops in operation clark smart. he's teaming up with our morning express' robin meade. here's the advice he gave a soldier that wanted to invest in something other than the thrift savings plan, the military's version of a 4 o wu01(k). >> i'm way over here with staff
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sergeant isaac. he heard you talk about tsp, and he wants to know about some other good investments. like what? >> just any other investment that you recommend to just get a little bit more money. >> if you have more money -- >> let's say you already have the it sp. >> do you want to stash more money? >> what other investments you know of. >> i got it. all right. you got $5,000 for me right now? >> yeah. >> okay. good. because you can do -- >> everybody's head swivelled. who? where? let me see. >> who has the 5,000? you can do up to 5,000 each calendar year in an account called a roth. roth is my favorite savings vehicle because you put in this money, this up to five grand, if you're married you can do five and five. you don't have to do five. that's just a ceiling. but you do money into this, and listen to this, you you never get taxed on that money.
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everything you earn on it, tax-free. when you spend it, you spend it tax-free. you can take money you've gotten in savings, whatever it is, and put it into a roth account, and the tax-free advantage over time is gigantic. now, when are you allowed to spend the money? when would you you guess i'm going to let you spend the money? >> that was my next question. when can i spend it and what are the penalties? >> 59 1/2. how old are you now? >> 33. >> so you would put this money in a roth. you've got to leave it in there for 26 years, but then everything that you have is your you money to spend dollar for dollar. government's out of your life on taxing it. >> you can watch operation clark smart this weekend at 6:00 a.m., noon, and 4:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln.
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novelist stephen king stopped by hln to talk to our own robin mooe. turns out he's a big fan. he offered her a sneak peek at his new book "under the dome". >> "under the dome" it's called. so it's set in maine, a tiny town, chester mill. this bubble comes down and, boom, people are locked inside. this becomes a problem how so on so many different levels? >> well, it becomes a problem because nobody can get in, nobody can get out, and so the food supplies that are there are the food supplies. there's no electricity because when the dome comes down it cuts all the lines. the government cuts the phones. they do have some internet and they have some tv. one of the things that i had fun with is there are a lot of newspeople in this because an event like this would pull everybody off all their beats. an so i had a chance to put in all my cnn people. >> catch robin's interview with stephen king monday morning here on hln.
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"prime news" just minutes away. mike galanos has a preview of some real disturbing stories coming up. >> shaniya davis is one of them. a 5-year-old girl reported missing on tuesday. we thought we had our guy, clarence co. mom's boyfriend allegedly. turns out he's not the guy pu but another arrest has been made. guy fessed up to taking her. that' great, but no shania, no sign of her. we'll pick it up from there, find out where is this cute little 5-year-old girl? we'll take your calls on that. this one, let me just say this. a mother of five bank robber, her getaway is the red minivan? desperate times, huh? >> obviously. >> you're wondering, how could somebody be driven to this? this is a nice area in southern california. and this lady knocked over, what, four banks is what we're led to believe? >> four or five before she was caught, i think. >> regardless, hdoes a 37-year-old mother come to this point? we'll take your calls on that.
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the most disturbing story of the day is this one. a family accused of sex crimes against their own children, their own family members? it's a father and his four sons. there's been a sixth arrest in that. we'll get you updated. "prime news" at the top of the hour. >> that is stomach turning. i don't know if you've seen this one yet. think about it, faking breast cancer in order to get breast implants. sarah talbert explains this outrageous allegation against one texas woman. >> reporter: this 24-year-old had a biopsy on one of her breasts performed in february. that came back negative for cancer. but the sheriff's department says just a few months later she had shaved her head bald telling people she had been diagnosed with breast cancer. a benefit was held at the hog creek ice house in her honor. the sheriff's department said at least $10,000 was raised, if not more. i'm told once she got the money she went to a waco plastic surgeon wanting a blest breast
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augmentation. the doctor became suspicious when he looked through her medical records to find out she did not have breast cancer or cancer at all. he took her down payment of just over $3500 and with the help of his attorney contacted the sheriff's department who i'm told had staff members who even attended the benefit and donated money. >> because they believed that the story was true, that this person was affected by cancer, was going to have to have her breasts removed and wanted to help get her back on track by donating to help cover the cost of not only the surgery it was going to require but also to help pay for bills and things of that nature while she was off work. >> she was brought in for questioning and upon further investigation confessed to officials she did not have cancer and was not receiving chemotherapy. she told police she and her husband were having marital problems and she thought a breast augmentation would help
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mend their marriage. >> it is baffling. again, our thanks to kx can xv. this woman has been arrested and charged with theft the by deception. reporters sometimes go to great lengths or depths to put stories in context. we'll show you one in just a moment.
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just in new arrests in the kidnapping of 5-year-old shaniya davis. cops say a convicted felon admits to taking the little girl from her home and now getting new video from a hotel and cops say that's him carrying little shaniya into a hotel room. he's behind bars but no sign of little shaniya. it's been three days. is she still alive? not your typical bank rop ber here a suburban middle-class mom, mother of five accused of knocking over four banks. you see gun in tow there and the getaway car, the family minivan. call in and help us out with this one. the number, 1-877-tell-hln.
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e-mail us cnn.com/primenews or text us at hln tv. start your message with the word "prime," your chance to be heard. welcome. this is "prime news." right to it, a new twist in the frantic search for little shaniya davis who vanished from her home. someone was arrested yesterday but that guy is out of jail, charges dropped but an ex-con's behind bars. there he is. mario mcneale, who admits kidnapping the little girl. there is shocking new surveillance footage police say that's him carrying shaniya into a hotel room. he's in jail but she's still missing. listen to her father. he's not giving up trying to comfort his little girl thinking she's still out there. >> i just ask that they let her go and bring her home safe. we all miss her and love her
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very much. if you're listening to daddy, i miss you so much, honey and i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up. you don't give up either, honey. >> how could this new hotel video help find little shaniya after three days? we're taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining me now michelle segona, covering this story extensively for us and steve rogers from the nutley new jersey police department. michelle, starting with you. obviously, a confusing turn here as we get a new arrest mario mcneale, but no sign of shaniya, hul? >> no sign of her. as you remember a couple days ago investigators took into custody a guy by the name of clarence coe and actually charged him with first degree kidnapping but released him today and then they arrested a man by the name of mario mcneale as you just mentioned now he is charged with shaniya's kidnapping first degree kidnapping charges held on
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$100,000 bail, the man that you see in those surveillance photos carrying shaniya around a hotel. that hotel is about 45 minutes away from where she was initially reported missing throughout the sleepy hollow community. what we do know from investigators is that i can confirm right now that they were only at that hotel for about an hour around 6:11:00 a.m. just this past tuesday morning. and what investigators have found was that the tip came in wednesday just two days ago so when they went out to the location, they a hard time getting into the surveillance video because there's different codes to crack and to get into different kinds of footage. once they were able to get into the codes and figure out the time code where they needed to scan to, get that particular video, identify this guy, put out that information and then arrest him today, we do have the arrest unfortunately shaniya is still missing. >> okay. so, you said 6:11:00 a.m. is when they check into the hotel. that doesn't jive well really with mom's time line, does it,
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michelle? because mom said she puts her little girl down at 5:30. >> right. >> he would have had to have been right there at that time and taken her right at 5:30 for them to be at a hotel 41 minutes later. right? >> i mean, it is literally, i mean, if you are driving in the car driving and this, of course, is, according to directions, i have not driven that route yet off of the internet it's about 44 to 46 minutes. so, it would be a very close time line. >> okay. steve, let's hit on that when we talk about what could have happened here and mom's timeline is not jiving with that, as michelle's saying. that's a 45-minute drive. she says she puts little shaniya on a coach at 5:306789 no way she can make it there. so, mom, you got to drill on her the questioning, right, steve. >> exactly. she's going to be the target of the police insofar as the rest of this investigation is concerned. mike, may i add this, the police are going to have to see if
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there is any relationship between coe mcneill and the mom. what had happened prior to this, why was this child targeted? mom may have the key to this and, you know, in a lot of cases you've reported mom usually has the key. she will be the target of the investigation at this point. >> michelle, what do we know about that, does mcneill know the family? >> that's what investigators are trying to figure out, his relationship between mcneill clarence coe and also the mother. what i can tell you about shaniya's mother, when investigators told me is that her other brother is in foster care at this time and they have been questioning her extensively and, also, all the other family members. >> okay. all right. let's take a quick break and we'll have more as we drig down deeper on mom's story and what does she know.eck this out, a m wealthy suburbs of san diego accused of robbing banks? cops say she's a mother of five. there she is pointing the gun at the tellers.
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these are desperate financial times but robbing a bank, getaway car, the family minivan?
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extremely hopeful this evening that shaniya is alive. she seems to be very well taken care of, according to the footage in the surveillance that we've been able to view. >> we hope and pray she's right continuing our coverage an arrest, a second arrest, first guy arrested clarence coe released now convicted felon mario mcneill arrested confessed allegedly he took little shaniya and is behind bars. where's the little girl. let me read this facebook comment. she didn't look scared in the video like she knew this man.
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michelle segona is with us. let's get back to that. any more from authorities on those two points, how shaniya looks in the video number one and number one, mcneill's connection to anybody here? >> if you take a look at those photos as you mentioned, mike, she looks relaxed like waiting for the elevator to come, in his arms. it's not like she's fighting him or anything of that nature. again, these are only a few stills that were released to us so we don't know if there's other things on the tape that investigators got. i can tell you that, once investigators found this bit of tape that they also started combing the outside cameras to see what vehicles left the building, where exactly shaniya was placed in the car and where exactly they could have possibly taken off to and that's probably how they linked themselves to be able to come up with this next arrest. >> okay. steve, i think there's a question many people have why confess if you're not going to turn over the little girl, as well. what's going on here? >> well, yeah, that's kind of
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unusual, mike. but i'll tell you this, the key piece of evidence or the key clue in this may have come right from that girl on that video and what that caller did was hit something that law enforcement is looking at, the demeanor of the child. i'm wondering myself who was in the elevator if they get footage as to that that might give us something to really look at as this investigation continues. >> michelle, let's backtrack here michelle and some of the past elements we've been dealing with, we had a neighbor, andrea moore, who thought she heard at 3:00 in the morning someone possibly being beaten, that little shaniya's blanket was found about 3:00 in the morning. the morning she went missing, about 3:00 a.m. how is that figuring into these new revelations? >> well, i just spoke with investigators again within the hour and i went over those same exact questions and what they said is that they have talked to that neighbor, not once, not twice but multiple times. and that they're trying to
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figure out her story to see if that fits into their time line to see what exactly happened if the neighbor did, in fact hear something and if that does play a significant role in this number one. number two, the blanket that was found is reportedly shaniya's but investigators aren't saying for sure if it is hers or not. and then apparently there has been reports that there were feces found on that blanket and all kinds of other things what i can tell you, you have 98 trailers within this community. they will collect all different kinds of evidence from blankets to bottles to clothing to everything. so, if one person saw that blanket taken in or whatever the case may be it could be just another portion they are looking into at this time. >> mike, one quick thing. >> yeah. >> the police may have given him something for that confession if they gave him something. don't be surprised if a new piece of evidence or clue pops up within the next 24-48 hours. >> if it leads to finding her
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alive and well. thanks again, guys. >> have a good weekend. >> horrendous, one of the most brutal sex crimes we've talked about a total of six men behind bars accused of forcing children, brothers and sisters to have sex with relatives. one victim says they were told to write down their bad memories and bury them in glass jars on the family's farm. they are searching for those jars and also searching for bodies. >> i'm jule two. years ago i had the honor of serving on the blue ribbon panel that helped select the top ten cnn heroes of 2007. as founder of project clean water -- i'm thrilled to help cnn introduce one of this year's top ten honorees now more than of the world needs heroes. >> there's nothing to heat. >> it's hard to find a job. >> i live on the street. >> when you're hungry, you're
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hungry, that's it. four he's ago i see those guys standing out there, they're desperate. they need to eat. every night, i bring food to the hundr hungry in queens, new york. i'm born in colombia but a citizen right now. i'm a school bus driver. i come back around 5:15 my second job starts. prepare the meal. like a family project seven days a week. i go to corners every night around 10:30, they are waiting for me. [ speaking foreign language ] i help anyone who needs to eat, just line up. the best part is when you see their smile. i want them to eat every night. for me, it's easy. compare with them, i'm rich.
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welcome back. i have to warn but this next story one of the worst child sex abuse cases we've had on "prime news." yesterday we told you about it, the arrest of a father and four sons from missouri now cops have arrested another man a family friend. that makes a total of six men arrested all accused of dispickable crimes involving children and sex. a 26-year-old woman recently came forward claims years ago she and her siblings were forced to have sex with their relatives, forced into fake
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marriages and it's worse cops digging up the family farm looking for bodies and also for buried glass jars in these glass jars may contain notes from the kids their buried secrets of pain and abuse. >> the children were told at a very young age that if they had bad things happen to them or bad memories to write them down and to put them in a jar and to bury them and those bad memories will go away. obviously, they didn't. >> joining me to talk about this from our sister network cnn thelma gutierrez. what can you tell us, the latest on the search for the bodies, possibly or body and, also, these glass jars? >> reporter: mike, the sheriff's department has said that they are looking for those jars that you had described with very is heart-breaking notes that detail years of abuse at the hands of male relatives in this family, alleged abuse.
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now, they have not found the jars, at least as of today, they have not found any jars with any notes. however, they were talking about the terrain on this farm. they believe that these jars -- in an area that's very steep, in an area where, perhaps, you know, would you have had floods this kind of thing in the area and that perhaps the jars have now moved to another spot so -- [ inaudible ] things they had told us one of the reasons why perhaps they have not found those jars. the sheriff's department in lexington, missouri has said they were going to hold a news conference the next few minutes to announce a big break in this case. mike? >> any idea what that could be or are they tight-lipped at this point? >> reporter: very tight lipped. no telling what that might be but everybody here is all shocked they all want to know what is going on, of course we're talking about a man and two sons, lay ministers in their church and one of the sons, who
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was a paramedic in a nearby community. so lots of people very interested in this case. >> okay. let's bring in bill grady reporter kmbz who reported on this yesterday. bill, anything to add about that a possible big break in the case? with us? >> reporter: i am. >> bill, are you with us? >> reporter: i am, sir. >> did a great job for us yesterday. anything to add? we hear this could be a possibly break in this case. what can you tell us? >> reporter: a couple things. first of all, as you know, a sixth suspect was arrested last night. we got a little more information on him this gentleman's name is larry kidd, he is somebody who had a problem with drugs and substance abuse and has a prison record but apparently for the last seven years has been an alcohol and drug abuse counselor and was living at a halfway house that shut down about a month ago, continued living there. we talked to his landlord and
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ostensibly employer in this recovery process. he says that larry kidd had cleaned up his act, he would trust him with his own children and he believes they may have the wrong guy. now, larry kidd who has not been charged as yet, may only have 24 hours to charge him. so if the charges are going to come forward, they probably would have to come forward in the next few hours or so. of course, in lafayette county, the search continues as we understand it a news conference is going to be happening here in the next little while with some new evidence that's going to be brought to the fore, perhaps some things that were found on the property. >> okay. bill, what can you tell us about possible other victims outside the family? i'm sure authorities are looking at that. are we hearing anything about that? >> reporter: we do talk with somebody with the highway patrol last night that said there are additional victims and he did not want to get into specifics but told me there at least two more victims that have come forward and he said that the tips hot line in kansas city has been providing an enormous amount of information.
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they believe that there are many more is the way our source put it, many more victims out there that they are trying, doing everything they can to encourage to come forward. i might just also add the community of christ church where three of the mohlers were lay ministers met with us this afternoon and said we want to encourage anybody to report anything we want to reiterate all of our policies and will do anything we can to try to get ahead of this but they are no longer involved in any active role in the search whatsoever. >> what about that church? we talked about it off and on. can you tell us anything about the church? >> reporter: certainly the community of christ church was known as the reorganized church ever latter dave saints until about 2001, 2002, they became the community of christ church and it was a break-off of the traditional mormons at its genesis. so they are about 250,000 -- >> okay. bill we have to take a quick break. more coming up. stay with us. @@@@@@@@@@
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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. phillip garrido, accused of kidnapping jaycee dugard when she was 11, keeping her captive two decades, allegedly fathering two children with her. remember this claim, when he was arrested his jailhouse interview, listen to this. >> you're going to find the most powerful story coming from the witness, from the victim. you wait -- you just -- if you take this a step at a time, you're going to fall over backwards and in the end you're going to find the most powerful heartwarming story. >> give me a break.
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now more statements from a letter he sent from his cell to a tv station. we'll unveil that in a bit. how about this, desperate times for families trying to make ends meet a mom from a well-to-do area in southern california turning into an accused bank robber. check this out, photos we've shown you. a more of five, donning the hoodie and bran dishing the gun, not much of a disguise, no mask. she's a mom, mir reed, a couple of step kids in the mix even drives the red minivan but some neighbors say the family has really had their share of money troubles. >> we were pretty stunned when we saw the police outside. it's very unfortunate but very sad. you've got to be desperate to rob a bank. >> well put on that front. we'll take your calls and thoughts 1-877-tell-hln. joining us we welcome back stacey kaiser our psychotherapist and also antonio
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castlon reporter. more details out there, when did this bank robbing spree allegedly begin? >> supposedly back on september 29th at the san diego national bank in poway. fbi agents are investigating that believe she may have robbed that bank and october 13th a u.s. bank in the poway area was robbed and two other banks were robbed recently a couple weeks ago. >> so four banks in all. was she violent, did anybody get hurt in all this? how do the robberies go down? >> police say she wasn't violent at all would, go in, sometimes with a gun and she would put a demand note and give it to the teller and leave with cash and she didn't harm anybody. >> do we know -- let me ask you this, first off. she's married. there's a husband in the picture. what's he saying, did he know anything? >> we went to his house yesterday. he opened the door, we shook his
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hand and he just closed it. he didn't have anything to say. he hasn't said anything about the allegations against his wife. >> wow. i'm sure he's speechless at this point. do we know anything about the family situation that would lead to this? we're led to believe they had financial troubles. anything more on that, antonio? >> a lot of her friends say she was going through some financial troubles, records show she filed for bankruptcy at one time. all we know, she's a coktco cashier and just a soccer mom. she loves her children very much, hard working woman, just going through some tough financial times. >> let's bring in our sky co therapist, stacey, a lot of folks doling with tough financial times right now, what would drive a mother of five to do? >> it's definitely way more than being involved in tough financial times or we'd see mothers rob banks every day. what is going on here is s a combination of things. first of all i do think she's probably reached a proint of desperation but there also has to be an inability to think about long-term consequences.
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this is a mother, if her kids were a priority, she would be thinking about that before walking into a bank with a gun. and then the last piece of this is this is a woman who really ultimately was not thinking about anything but herself and the money. >> how did that happen? you've laid it out there. stay on that for just a minute. five kids, when do the -- when does reason and realizing there's a consequence to follow just leave your mind and you go and do something like this? >> i mean, i think ultimately, you have to have sort of that chip missing, that moral obligation, that sense of responsibility is missing in this woman or she would not have been capable of doing this. >> i want to read a facebook comments. some people think it is what they need to do at the time they are doing it but don't think of the example they are setting for their own children. look what she is cheating them to do, lie, cheat and steal, the biggest tragedy of all.
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stacey, how does this husband, i guess they will need professional help the mom accused of being a bank robber. >> no doubt. the fact she walked in with a gun and the kids will know that will create more trouble for those children. you want to surround them with really good rationale family and friends and then get them some kind of counseling because their mother is likely going to go to jail for a while. >> let's bring in eric richman our attorney. will the criminal justice system have any sympathy on a mother of five how this all went down and came about? >> yeah, i think that there is a tremendous sympathy appeal and if you listen to the story for the first time, your reaction and you are a hypothetical juror, your reaction is going to be really more sadness than anger. so, if you think about that hypothetical jury and that hypothetical juror, i think that's got to be taken into account by any prosecutor before going forward with these charges. and as her defense lawyer, i would try and really emphasize
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that sympathy that she's going to get from any juror. >> let's bring back in antonio castelan reporting on this for us. what are people saying, are they outraged this could happen and the effects on the kids or is it sadness like eric is suggesting? >> a lot of the neighbors were shocked and sad. they can't believe that she could do something like this. there were some neighbors that say they can understand why she may have done it because she loved -- she loves her kids very much and times are really tough. so, there's a lot of sadness and disbelief about these allegations. >> okay. you mentioned them. let's listen to again neighbors talking about this antonio you nailed it. they're shocked. let's listen. well, we'll get that in just a second there. it is. >> very sad. you've got to be desperate to rob a bank. >> there you have it.
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desperation, stacey, again you're believing it's a lot more than that. as we cut through this, do you think we'll see more of this, stacey, hopefully not. >> i hope not but i have to tell you what makes it go just beyond desperation this woman robbed four banks not some distraught woman that walked into one bank and sort of lost her mind that day. this is somebody who began to perpetuate that habit and had she not been caught, i don't know how many banks she would have robbed. >> we'll take your calls, thoughts on this, mother of five turning into an alleged bank robber. call in to 1-877-tell-hln. what about her criminal history does, she have a criminal past?
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she's got a little girl who has been missing her mom. it's going to be really sad if she's not around for the next 10, 15 years. >> financial crises, you know, that's all i can say. pushes people to the edge, you know, to the most extreme. >> extreme, indeed, talking about those are neighbors shocked as a mother of five turns into an accused bank robber. those are the photos there. not even wearing a mask a hoodie and a gun then the getaway vehicle the family minivan. wow. we're taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln is the phone number. we have our experts standing by. back to stacey kaiser our psychotherapist. i think you brought up a good point there not just one,
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because, you know, in a sense of desperation, oh, not that i'm absolving this but trying to get into her mind here she would rob one bank. what happens all of a sudden it becomes two, three and four bank robberies here? >> well, i do think that there is a bit of a rush that comes out of it but i think that she had some success and beginning to think she got away with it. not only did she rob these banks but she went in with just a hoodie and no face mask, quite cavalier to think you could walk in, take money and, you know, not git recognized. >> back to antonio castelan, reporter covering this. what more do we know about this lady, any kind of criminal past, any behavior we would think, oh, might have led to this? >> reporter: we've checked her out and she shows no criminal record whatsoever. many of her friends say she's been a good woman. she's never been in trouble at all. >> there you go. let me read a facebook comment. there are options, smaller
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house, nor cable, one car, people don't want to give that up. and then they want to blame the economy for robbing a bank. it's really no excuse in this case. and to a point, yeah, there's no excuse for going to this level but tell us about what's going on in this area, antonio. let's face it, a lot of folks, they can't just downsize the house and make a few moves and everything is financially okay, again, right? this area has been pretty hard hit with the foreclosures and economy, right? >> yes there, have been some tough times here in san diego, especially in the poway area. we've seen a dramatic rise in foreclosures everywhere you look in that area there are "for sale" signs banks closing up on houses so, you know, the neighbors there say that she was going through these financial troubles. >> back to our attorney eric richman. by the way, again, we're not suggesting that we're trying to give her any kind of excuse, robbing a bank is a serious offense but again talking about what's the justice system going
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to do with this, what tactors do you look at, eric, talking about kids being in the picture tour a and this being a pretty good lady up to this point. >> certainly a primary factor for myself and what you said before the different between an excuse really and explanation. we're trying to explain her behavior at this point. any other factors what really goes against her, here's she's using -- an armed robbery using a gun and i think a guest before said this isn't a violent act. well, it's very violent to bring a gun to threaten people with it and highly reckless. so, i think it's going to be hard to get sympathy but going back to one of your comments earlier that, you know, desperation it's easy to objectively look and say she shouldn't have been desperate but the truth of the matter is subjectively when people feel desperate they may act completely irrationally and will go further to explain what she's done. i think, you xheshgs the fact she didn't wear any kind of mask
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cuts to the fact she was really desperate and had this myopic view of these acts, they would have no repercussions and i think the evidence we've seen so far she would probably, you know, plead guilty. >> real quick, stacey, do you agree with that? >> i agree with a little bit of it. i do think that these are desperate times and we're going to see people doing great things. the piece that really gets stuck for me, the fact she did four of these. >> yeah. okay. stacey, antonio, eric, we appreciate it. coming up what would you say if your son or daughter said, we're going to get a degree in hip-hop. you would probably wonder, uh, what they'd do with that. well a minnesota school has some answers. but first this. want to let you know about an interesting new study by the american institute for cancer research. it highlights the impact of obesity and cancer and doctor sanjay gupta chief medical correspondent for our sister network cnn explains that. >> i can tell you we've known for some time there is an association between cancer and obesity or excess body weight
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but we haven't known it's been hard to pinpoint exactly how much of an impact is there. that's been the focus of some research for some time now by the american institute for cancer research trying to find the link, trying to sort of quantify the link, as well. right down to it, they think every year there's over 100,000 cases of cancer that are directly linked to obesity and being overweight. let me be more clear on that. when reduce all the other potential factors like smoking, like age, like gender, it seems it comes down to simply carrying too much body weight that increases your likelihood of cancer. >> he also a researchers only studied seven cancers and possible other cancers have the same association. all right. stay us with. more "prime news" coming up.
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someone told you they were getting a degree in hip-hop, what would you think? is it a legitimate degree. the mcnally college of music in minnesota thinks so and offering the country's first college-level diploma program. >> we can study its impact on society, on people's lives. where does this music come from? when it's angry, what are people trying to say? >> joining me now dr. james peterson professor from bucknell university and the self-proclaimed hip-hop a scholar who better to talk about this, all right dr. peterson. is this a legitimate diploma? >> of course it's legitimate. i took a look at it online to see what courses they're offering a couple different tracks, it is is absolutely legitimate in a couple of different ways. on the one hand there are courses of study in terms of learning the production of the music and creation of the music, just like creating or producing any other form of music but also
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have courses that investigate the industry, the business side of it and the kind of courses that i teach actually investigate the more literary and cultural aspects of it so a wide range of approaches to this kind of curriculum. >> i know you researched making this happen at other schools. what were your concerns when you started to broach the idea of a hip-hop degree, a hip-hop diploma because i know you know people are going to think what are you talking about? >> sure. the main resistance is related to people's perceptions of the hip-hop culture in general. what people see in the mainstream a lot of violence and misogyny and consumerism on mtv and b.e.t. and sometimes equate that with the culture when literally that is the tip of the iceberg. beneath the surface is cultural energy, and potential. the biggest thing we have to contend with is the public perception of mainstream hip-hop taking it out of contention for academic consideration. >> what kind of student would be offered in this?
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>> all students are interested in this. let me tell when you i teach the hip-hop course at bucknell university or other universities, these are the first to fill up, the most diverse classes and students are absolutely engaged purely on the academic minnesota, they're actually allowing artists and kids interested in becoming artists within a hip-hop culture to perfect their craft. so there's multiple ways of getting hip-hop culture into the curriculum. i'm very happy to see programs like this happening around the country. >> okay. so what can someone do with this diploma, this degree, once they have it? what do you do with it? >> sure. can i also say that people often ask what do you do with an english degree, or what -- >> fair enough, fair enough. >> what you can do with this minnesota program is you can create music. i know that's sort of a pipe dream to be an artist, but there are young people who are out there committed to that as a dream. it allows them to use different aspects of technology, how to actually make songs, how to produce songs. you know, the production within
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hip-hop culture has been cratized. you still have to learn how to do that. you need to learn the craft. when you come out of this program you'll be able to do some of those things. again, i applaud it. i think it's a grit idea. >> thank you for your insight on this, because you are the hip-hop scholar. who else were we going to call. james peterson, thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> check out "essence" magazine. coming up, there he is, phillip garrido, the man accused of kidnapping and raping jaycee dugard for 18 years. after he was put in jail and arrested, he gave an account, a rambling of how this is going to end up being a heart-warming story. now we have more. this man writing a letter to a tv station. his ramblings coming up. we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.
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just in, new arrests in the kidnapping of 5-year-old shaniya davis. a convicted felon admitted he took the little girl from her home. cops say that's him carrying her into a hotel room. he's behind bars. but there's no sign of little shaniya. it's been three days. is she still alive? not your typical bank robber here. it's a suburban middle-class mom, a mother of five accused of knocking over four banks. the gun in tow, and the minivan involved. call in, 1-877-tell-hln. e-mail us at cnn.com/primenews.
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or text us at hlntv, just start your message with the word prime. it's your chance to be heard. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. a new twist in the frantic search for little shaniya davis. someone was arrested yesterday, but now that guy's out of jail. charges dropped. but an ex-con's behind bars. there he is, mario mcneil. mcneem admits kidnapping the little girl. and there is shocking new surveillance footage. police say that's mcneil carrying little shaniya into a hotel room. so he's in jail, but shaniya is still missing. listen to her father, he's not giving up. trying to comfort his little girl, thinking she's still out there. >> i just ask that they let her go and bring her home safe. we all miss her and love her very much. if you're listening to daddy, i
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miss you so much, honey, and i'm waiting for you. i'm not going to give up, and you don't give up either, honey. >> how could this new hotel video help find little shaniya after three days? we're taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining me now, michelle sigona, who has been covering this story extensively for us. also with us, steve rogers, with the mcnutley new jersey police department. michelle, obviously a confusing turn here as we get a new arrest. mario mcneil, but no sign of shaniya, huh? >> no sign of shaniya. as you remember a couple of days ago, investigators took into custody a guy by the name of clarence coe. they actually charged him with kidnapping but released him today. then they arrested a man by the name of mario mcneil, as you just mentioned and now he is charged with shaniya's kidnapping. he's held on $100,000 bail. and he is the man that you see
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in the surveillance photos, carrying shaniya around the hotel. that hotel is about 45 minutes away from where she was initially reported missing throughout the sleepy hollow community. and what we do know from investigators is, is that i can confirm right now that they were only at that hotel for about an hour. around 6:11 a.m. just this past tuesday morning. and what investigators have found was that the tip came in on wednesday, just two days ago, so when they went out to the location, they had a hard time getting into the surveillance video, because there's different codes to crack. and to be able to get into different kinds of footage. once they were a able to get into the different codes and where to scan to, get that particular video, identify this guy, put out that information, and then arrest him today, we do have the arrest. unfortunately, shaniya is still missing. >> so you said 6:11 a.m. is when they checked into the hotel. that doesn't jive well really with mom's time line, does it?
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because mom said she puts her little girl down at 5:30. i mean, he would have had to have been right there at that time and taken her right at 5:30. for them to be at a hotel 41 minutes later, right? >> it is literally, i mean, if you are driving in the car driving, and this, of course, is according to directions, i have not driven that route yet off of the internet, it's about 44 to 46 minutes. so it would be a very close time line. >> steve, let's hit on that when we talk about what could have happened here. and mom's time line is not jiving with that, as michelle's saying, that's a 45-minute drive. she says she puts little shaniya on a couch at 5:30. no way she can make it there. so mom, you've got to drill on her, the questioning, right, steve? >> exactly. she's going to be the target of the police insofar as the rest of this investigation is concerned. mike, may i add this, the police are going to have to see if
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there's any relationship between coe, mcneil and the mom. mom may have the key to this. in a lot of cases you've reported, mom has the key. she will be the target of the investigation at this point. >> michelle, what do we know about that? does mcneil know the family? >> that's what investigators are trying to find out his relationship between mcneil, claerns coe and also the mother. what i can tell you about shaniya's mother, her other brother is in foster care at this time. and they have been questioning her extensively, and also all the other family members. >> okay. let's take a quick break. we'll have more on this, as we drill down deeper on mom's story, and what does she know. we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. and check this out, a mom from the wealthy suburbs of san diego, accused of robbing banks? cops say she's a mother of five. there she is, pointing the gun at the tellers. these are desperate financial times. but robbing a bank?
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getaway car, the family minivan?
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>> we're extremely hopeful this evening that shaniya is alive. she seems to be very well taken care of according to the footage that we've been able to view. >> continuing our conversation. there's been a second arrest. first guy arrested, clarence coe, he's been released. convicted felon mario mcneill he's been arrested, allegedly confessed he took little shaniya. tina writes, she didn't look scared in the video. it's like she knew this man.
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michelle sigona is with us, investigative joirnlist. anything more from authorities on those two points? how shaniya looks in the video, number one? and number two, mcneill's connection to anybody here? >> if you take a look at those photos, just as you mentioned, mike, she looks relaxed, like she's waiting for the elevator to come. it's not like she's fighting him or anything of that nature. these are only a few stills that were released to us. so we don't know if there's other things on the tape that investigators got. i can tell you that once investigators found this bit of tape, that they also started combing the outside cameras to see what kind of vehicles left the building, to see exactly where shaniya was placed in the car and where they could have taken off to. that's probably how they linked themselves to be able to come up with this next arrest. >> okay. steve, i think there's a question many people have, why confess if you're not going to turn over the little girl as well? what's going on here? >> well, yeah, that's kind of
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unusual, mike. but i'll tell you this, the key piece of evidence, or the key clue in this may come right from that girl in that video. what that caller did is hit something that law enforcement is looking at, the demeanor of the child. i'm wondering myself, who was in the elevator? if they could get footage as to who was in the elevator, that might give us something really to look at as this investigation continues. >> michelle, let's back track here. some of the past elements we've been dealing with, we had a neighbor, andrea moore, who thought she heard at 3:00 in the morning someone possibly being beaten. that little shaniya's blanket was found about 3:00 in the morning, the morning she went missing, about 3:00 a.m. how is that figuring into the new revelations? >> i just spoke with investigators again within the hour, and i went over those same exact questions. and what they said is that they have talked to that neighbor, not once, not twice, but multiple times. and that they're trying to figure out her story to see if
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that fits into their time line. to see what exactly happened, if the neighbor did in fact hear something, and if that does play a significant role in this, number one. number two, the blanket that was found is reportly shaniya's. but investigators aren't saying for sure if it is hers or not. and apparently there has been reports that there were feces found on that blanket and all kinds of other things. what i can tell you in these types of investigations, when investigators go out, you have 98 trailers within this community, they're going to collect all different kinds of evidence from blankets to bottles to clothing to everything. so if one person saw that blanket taken in, or whatever the case may be, it could just be another portion that they are looking into at this time. >> mike, one quick thing, the police may have given him something for that confession. if he gave them something. so don't be surprised if a new piece of evidence or clue pops up within the next 24 to 48 hours. >> we can hope, especially if it leads to finding shaniya alive
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and well. this one is horrendous. one of the most brutal sex crimes we've talked about. total of six men behind bars accused of forcing children, brothers and sisters, to have sex with relatives. one victim says they were told to write down their bad memories and bury them in glass jars in the family's farm. they're searching for those jars. and they're also searching for bodies. two years ago i had the honor of serving on the blue ribbon panel that helped select the top ten heroes of 2007. as founder of project clean water helping provide clean water throughout the world, i'm thrilled to present one of the heroes. >> i live on the street. >> when you're hungry, you're hungry, that's it. four years ago i see those guys
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standing out there like they're desperate. they need to eat. my name is jorge munos. every night i bring food to the hungry in new york. i'm born in colombia. i'm a school bus driver. at 5:15, i start. prepare the meal, pack them up, like the family, seven days a week. i go to the same corners every night. they're waiting for me. i help anyone who needs to eat, just line up. the best part is when you see their smile. it's easy. compare with them.
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welcome back. i have to warn you about this next story. one of the worst child sex abuse cases we've had on "prime news." yesterday we told you about it, the arrest of a father and four sons from missouri. a family friend also arrested. a total of six men arrested. all accused of despicable crimes involving children and sex. a 26-year-old woman recently came forward claiming she and her siblings were forced to have
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sex with their relatives, forced into fake marriages. it's worse, cops now digging up the family farm looking for bodies. they're also looking for buried glass jars, and in these jars may contain notes from the kids. their buried secrets of pain and abuse. >> the children were told at a very young age that if they had bad things happen to them, or bad memories, to write them down and to put them in a jar and to bury them and those bad memories would go away. obviously they didn't. >> all right. joining me now to talk about this, from our sister network cnn, thelma gutierrez. thelma, what can you tell us on the latest on the search of the bodies possibly, or body? and also these glass jars? >> reporter: mike, the sheriff's department has said that they are looking for those jars that you had described, with very heartbreaking notes that detail years of abuse at the hands of male relatives in this family.
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alleged abuse. now, they have not found the jars. at least as of today they have not found any jars with any notes. however, they were talking about the terrain on this farm. they believe that these jars were buried in an area that's very steep. in an area where perhaps, you know, you've had floods, this kind of thing in the area, and that perhaps the jars have now moved to another spot. that was one of the things they had told us, one of the reasons why perhaps they have not found those jars. the sheriff's department in lexington, missouri, have said that they were going to hold a news conference the next few minutes to announce the big break in this case. mike? >> okay. any idea when that could be? are they pretty tight-lipped at this point? >> reporter: very tight-lipped, mike. no telling what that might be. but of course, everybody here is very shocked. they all want to know what is going on. of course, we're talking about a man and two sons who were
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ministers in their church, and one son who was a paramedic in the nearby community. lots of people very interested in this case. >> let's bring in bill grady, reporter kmbz, the reporter for us on this yesterday. bill, anything to add to that, about a possible big break in the case? is bill with us? >> i am. >> bill, you with us? >> i am, sir. >> hey, bill. thanks again, bill from kmbz reporting. we're hearing there can be a possible break in this case. what can you tell us? >> first of all, there was, as you know, a sixth suspect arrested last night. we got a little more information on this. it's larry kidd, and he is a man who had problems with drugs and substance abuse and has a prison record. but apparently for the last seven years, has been an alcohol and drug abuse counselor, and was living in a halfway house that shut down about a month ago, continued living there. we talked to his landlord and
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ostensibly employer in this recovery process. he said he would trust him with his own children. and he believes they may have the wrong guy. now, larry kidd has not been charged as yet. they only have 24 hours to charge him. so if the charges are going to come forward, they probably would have to come forward in the next few hours or so. of course, down in lafayette county, the search continues, and as we understand it, a news conference is going to be happening in the next little while with new evidence that's going to be brought to the fore, perhaps some things found on the property. >> bill, what can you tell us about possible other victims outside the family? i'm sure authorities are looking at that. are we hearing anything about that? >> we did talk to somebody with the highway patrol last night that said that there are additional victims. he did not want to get into specifics. but he told me there are at least two more victims that have come forward. and he said that the tips hotline in kansas city is
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providing an enormous amount of information. they believe that there are many more, is the way our source put it, many more victims out there, that they are trying -- doing everything they can to encourage to come forward. i might just also add that the community of christ church where three of the men were lay ministers met with us this afternoon and said, we want to encourage anybody to report anything. we want to reiterate all of our policies and we'll do anything we can to try to get ahead of this. the but they're no longer involved in any active role in the church whatsoever. >> what about that church? we talked about it off and on. can you tell us anything about the church? >> certainly. the community of christ church actually was known as the reorganized church of latter-day saints. until about 2001, 2002, they became the community of christ church, and it was a breakoff of the traditional mormons where it had its genesis. so there are about 250,000 -- >> we've got to take a quick break. y8
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