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the search for a missing north carolina girl take as grim turn. why police are now searching for shaniya davis' body and why the focus is now on her mother. in a prison about two hours from chicago become the next guantanamo bay? why a congressman is against that idea. and president obama says there's something he'd like everyone to see in china. he wants everything to have what he told a group of students in shanghai. i'm richelle carey. welcome to "hln's" "news and views" on this monday. the story we're following as we speak. a somber update on a 5-year-old girl missing nearly a week. investigators say right now they
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are searching for the body of shaniya davis along a central north carolina highway. the police say they've received reliable information she may have been dumped there. police have charged shaniya's 25-year-old mother with human trafficking and felony child abuse. new pictures a moment ago. the mother antoinette davis is due in court in two hours. shaniya lived with her father until last month. he was hesitant to let her stay with her mother but felt she deserved an opportunity to be a part of shaniya's life. >> of course i had some reserves. however she been trying. i know she been working for at least six months, and she had been trying to get her life back on track, and she said she had just recently got her own place. so i was wanting to give hear chance. she asked if she could be a mother, and i felt she was sincere in asking, and figured i'd give her a chance. >> police have also filed kidnapping charges against
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29-year-old mario mcneill, captured on surveillance camera last tuesday carrying shaniya into a hotel room 30 miles from her hope. cops say he admitted to taking her. his attorney says he will not plead guilty to the charge. so all the breaking news tonight. watch "nancy grace" for the late-breaking developments in the search for shaniya and 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln. a body was found in the chicago river this morning, and local media say it's identified at michael scott. the president of chicago's board of education. the president of the cook county supervisors issued a statement of condolence to scott's widow and children. his car and body found nearby and towed away. his family reported him missing yesterday. scott's career in public service spans about three decades. over the weekend the fbi used kbimt ground penetrating radar at the house in cleveland, where remains of 11 women were
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found using orange paint to mark several spots, that could indicate more digging at sewell's house and probably next door. the search expanded to about four houses down. one woman says her niece found something behind a boarded up house. >> they found bottles about this long. they come running in the house bringing up in the house what they're burying. come look what we found. >> police haven't said whether they found any human bones in fact behind that house. sowell's attorney has commented. could thompson, illinois be the new guantanamo bay? a government task force is visiting a nearly empty prison there, two hours west of chicago and could become the new home for suspected terrorists. our republican congressman circulating a letter of opposition addressed to
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president obama that says, "we should not invite al qaeda to make illinois its number one target." democratic senator dick durbin took issue pointing out dezzens of dangerous criminals are already held in illinois prisons. >> there are currently 35 people serving in the prisons of illinois convicted of terrorism. we also have people who are part of colombian drug gang, mexican drug cartel, the toughest, meanest dirtiest gangs in chicago are all in our prisons and all held safely. >> an obama administration official says security would be enhanced to exceed supermax standards. the decision to try five of the 9/11 suspects in civilian court in new york has created a heated debated in washington. we debate issed it friday in "your views." it's divided along party line. demming are backing the president's decision saying the
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trial will show ow effective tornado fair the u.s. judicial say. republicans say it's giving undeserved rights, to the alleged mastermind, behind 9/11. >> we shouldn't close guantanamo for these type of terrorists. we're dealing with people who committed acts of war against us. they shouldn't be tried in the criminal justice system but the military just it system. it's absolutely inexcusable we're not using the military justice system to try these people. that's why we have such a system. >> if somebody murders americans and they murder americans in america, they ought to be prosecuted in america and hopefully convicted in america. >> republicans say a civilian trial will also give the alleged terrorists the public platform they want. brand new details on the alleg allege ft. hood shotter. he's saying he did not pressure to hurt americans.
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the cleric could tell he was becoming uncomfortable in the u.s. military. the cleric told the "post" reporter hasan's killing spree is allowed under islam because it a form of jihad, and because the united states started the battle in muslim countries. has sn accused of shooting and killing 13 people at ft. hood. s he is still in the hospital. and president obama is in china. china financed massive sums of u.s. debt. part of the president's talks may include assurances those investments are safe. the president held a town hall meeting with college students in shanghai where he push for greater freedoming in china. >> we do not seek to impose any system of government on any other nation, but we also don't believe that the principles that we stand for are unique to our nation.
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these freedoms are expression and worship, are access to information and political participation, we believe, are universal rights and should be available to all people, including ethnic and religious minorities, whether they are in the united states, china or any nation. >> president obama will also visit china's great wall today. and the obama administration says people trying to politicize the president's vow to japan's emperor and every pris are way, way off base. president obama greeted the couple saturday during his visit to the em peer palace. mr. obama was observing appropriate protocol and his trip enhanced the status of the u.s. relative to japan. space shuttle atlantis atlantis should be on its way to the international space station hopefully this afternoon. live pictures as they're just about ready. nasa plans to launch from the kennedy space center at 2:258 eastern.
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100 shuttle clients get to see the launch up close to tweet about it. expected to reach about 120,000 twitter followers. pretty cool. firefighters are on the scene of a massive fire. a house in midwest 12i city, oklahoma. that is east of oklahoma city. lots and lots of smoke. firefighters say part of the roof has collapsed. no word on injuries. we'll bring you information on that as soon as we have it. you can tell the roof is gone there. a legal sbalgts heating up. the issue, photos that appear to show prisoners, americans, rather, abusing prisoners, detainees. should they be released or not? your views, next.
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defense secretary robert gates blocked the release of any new photos that appear to show americans abusing foreign
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detainees. the obama administration told the supreme court gates is groouz yousing his new powers provided by a law signed last month. the aclu soon to have the pictures released in lower court so far supported that. gates says the release of u.s. citizens and service member s i danger. >> i absolutly agree. >> a huge story. >> we are asking for your comments on this story. how do you feel about these pictures being released? should they be? should they not be? ron sent an e-mail from ohio. this is what ron wrote. the public has no reason or right to see the photos. it they are concerned about it, or so concerned, see the military, join for themself and see firsthand. it's too easy for people to criticize the military during the war than from the comfort of their living room. misty is holding calling from oregon. missy, i understand you disagree. >> caller: totally. we've been kept in the dark too
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long, what's going on over in iraq, and guantanamo bay, and i believe the pictures do need to be released. we need to see what's happening. >> are you afraid of any type of backlash? i understand your position, but do you see any merit to the other side? >> caller: no, i do not. >> okay. misty, thank you for your phone call. appreciate it. as always, all of our facebook pages always up and running. if you want to comment on that page search richelle carey hln and jump into the discussion. we pull a few comments for you. jeff posted this -- if there were any laws broken they can be addressed when the war is over. there is no value added to seeing them while our troops are still encountering the enemy. seems to be open to the pictures being released at later date. tina says the safety of the soldiers without weigh the necessary for society to see the photos. no benefit that could come from the release of these photos, but brad says this -- of course they would want to hide them. they can't have the public
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seeing what they have done wrong. so the pics, so everyone sees them. he is all for transparency, no matter what. another caller. let's get to alabama. cindy has been holding, and, cindy, you think that this could actually, if they release these pictures, be a detriment to any progress the united states has made. explain that? >> caller: i think that these people are over there fighting for our freedom and our right as americans, and i think the worst thing that we could do, i mean, people that have husbands, wives, sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, they're putting their life on the line every day for us, and for us to release these, that only -- i mean it seems to have called down somewhat over there now, and things are more in order than before we went over there and helped this country, and i think for us to release the pictures, there's no positive that could come from that, only
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negative that i see. that would make them want to lash out at us, the terrorists, even more. and i just don't see anything -- you don't tell everything you know. you don't -- you know, you don't show everything you know. some things -- >> i understand your point, cindy, i do. i see what you're saying. you they any type of progress we have made in relations in that part of the world, you think it could be harmed by showing pictures like this. cindy, thank you for your phone call. appreciate it very much, and do you think -- keep thinking. do you think this is important, that the public seek these alleged abuse pictures, or do you agree with secretary gates? and cindy, that the publication of the photos would really just be a danger to u.s. troops abroad? e-mail us at cnn.com/hln. call at 1-877-hln and text. we'll continue to talk about
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this. no, no, no. that's a direct quote from secretary of state hillary clinton. the rumor, that she is putting to rest.
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a new arrest in the case of a family in missouri accused of horrible sex crimes against children. 72-year-old daryl molar was brought into a courtroom charged with forceable rape against girls ages 5 through 9. he says he has no idea about the allegations. mohler's brothers and four sons back in missouri are are charged with crimes including bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old to have an abortion. secretary of defense hillary clinton, out of the running in the new york governor's jays she shot down claims she's planning a campaign.
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she says she's committed to her current job. former mayor rudy giuliani will decide soon if he will run for the governor's seat. and remember the mayor of milwaukee who confronted a man armed with a metal bar, helping a woman who was allegedly being menaced by the guy outside a state fair last summer? he is running for governor of wisconsin. democrat tom barrett pushed back making a decision until he recovered from the attack. >> less than three months ago i stood here with my family to thank the citizens of milwaukee and people from all over wisconsin for their heartfelt and genuine support after the aftermath and incident that took place outside state fair. at that point in time i was not thinking about running for governor. i was hurt. i had to heal and get my strength back. >> his hand and head were injured in that attack. he had ten pins in his hand. doctors removed the last two pins friday.
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the bernie madoff auction brought in more than $900,000 for the victims of his ponzi scheme. things like a mets jacket, right there with his name on the back, that thing sold for more than $14,000. 20 times more than expected. one buyer explained her fascination with madoff's stuff. >> it's like getting a plate of china from the "titanic," and bernie madoff may have been an even bigger ship wreck. >> ruth madoff's diamond earrings brought in $70,000. just about everything up for auction sold for far more than the auctioneers expected. general motors is still struggling. the carmaker reported a loss of $1.2 billion from july 10th, the day it came out of bankruptcy, to september 30th, the end of the third quarter. there is some good news, though. some. gm says it will start repaying government loans early. anticipating it will pay back $1
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billion next month, since the end of 2008, if you are counting, we as taxpayers forked over $50 billion to help gm out. and 2 looks like we're opening up our wallets more. it may about key sign the economy is recovering. retail sales rose more than expected in october. the government reported a 1.4% rise thanks in part to strong demand for cars. nearly half a percent more than most analysts expected. quite a turnaround. retail sales had fallen more than 2% the month before. home owners in financial trouble can still have their homes and credit but acting fast. that is the key. hln expert clark howard tells you how. >> i get a lot of questions from people wanting to know if they negotiate a deal with their mortgage lender, how's that going to affect their credit score and credit standing? well, the three major credit bureaus have put out a report
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that says that if you just negotiate a new payment plan with your lender, that the affect on your credit score is actually very small. almost meaningless. but what if you say, i give up, and you negotiate a short sale? the affect on your credit score -- getting up there. you lose over 100 points. let's say instead you just say i give up, here are the keys, and you allow yourself to be foreclosed on. the affect is actually just a little worse than doing a short sale. but if you really want to blow up your credit, you file for bankruptcy. because then, what it will do is drop your credit score -- you're not going to believe this -- over 300 points. it's better to stay and try to work something out. i'm clark howard. for more ways for you to be smart with your wallet go to cnn.com/clarkhoward. the ashes of a military veteran were stolen just before he was supposed to be buried, and then his family had a big
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decision to make. how they handled a shacking development.
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we begin way somber update on this child right here. 5 years old, shaniya davis missing nearly a week. investigators say they're now searching for her body along a central north carolina highway. the police say they received reliable information shaniya may have been dumped there. they've charged her 25-year-old mother with human trafficking and felony child abuse. antoinette davis is due in court in about two hours. she lived with her father until last month. he says he was hess dant to let her stay with her mother but felt she deserved another opportunity to be a part of shaniya's life. >> of course, i had some reserves.
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however, you know, she had been trying. i know she been working for at least six months, and she had been trying to get her life back on track, and she said she had just recently got her own place. so i was wanting to give her a chance. she had asked if she could be a mother, and i felt she was sincere in asking and figured i'd live hear chance. >> police also filed kidnapping charges against 29-year-old mario mcneill, captured on surveillance camera last tuesday carrying sha no ya into a hotel room about 30 miles from her home. cops say he admitted to taking her but his attorney says he will plead not guilty on the charge. all the breaking news tonight, watch "nancy grace," at 8:00 p.m. and 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln. a body was found in the sick river this morning, and local media say it's been identified as that of michael scott, the
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president of chicago's board of education. the county of the board of supervisors issued condolences to scott's wife and children. his family reported him missing yesterday. his career in public service spans three decades. can thompson, illinois be the new guantanamo bay? the town is about two hours west of chicago, and it could become the new home for suspected terrorists. a republican congressman is circulating a letter of opposition about this addressed to president obama that says, "we should not invite al qaeda to make illinois its number one target." but democratic senator dick durbin took issue with that pointing out dozens of dangerous criminals are already being held in illinois prisons. >> there are currently 35 people serving in the prisons of illinois convicted of terrorism. we also have people who are part of colombian drug gain gangs,
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mexican drug cartel, the test, meanest are all in our prisons and all held safely. >> an obama administration official says the security measures at the prison would be enhanced to exceed those of supermax prisons. the decision to try five suspects in a civilian court in new york created a heated debate in washington, and this argument is pretty much falling along party lines. democrats are backing the president's decision. they say the trial will show the world how effective and fair the judicial system here in the u.s., but republicans say it will give undeserved rights to people like the alleged mast per mind behind september 11th. >> we shouldn't close guantanamo for the purpose of these types of terrorists. basically we're dealing with people who committed acts of war against us. they shouldn't be tried in our criminal justice system. they should be tried in our mill tae justice system, and it's be a salutely inexcusable we're not using the mill 2er justice system to try these people. that's why we have such a
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system. >> if somebody murders americans and they murder americans in america, they ought to be prosecuted in america, and hopefully convicted in america. >> republicans say a civilian trial will also give the alleged terrorist a public platform they want. president obama is in beijing right now. part of his eight-day trip to asia. he met with china's president earlier this morning. in a spence president obama was economicing in with the u.s.' biggest banker. china financed massive sums of u.s. debt, and china's government may need assurances that its huge holdings of u.s. dollars in debt of safe. president obama also held a town hall meeting with college students in shanghai today where he pushed for greater freedoms in china. >> we do not seek to impose any system of government on any other nation, but we also don't believe that the principles that
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we stand for are unique to our nation. these freedoms are expression and worship, of access to information and political participation, we believe, are universal rights. they should be available to all people, including eth flick and religious minorities. whether they are in the united states, china or any nation. >> president obama will also visit china's great wall. and the obama administration says people trying to politicize the president's bow to japan's emperor and every pris are way, way offbase. he greeted them saturday during a visit to the palace. a senior official says the president was doing appropriate protocol and enhance the status of the u.s. relative to japan. the space shuttle "atlantas" should be on its way to the space station this afternoon. nasa plans to launch at 2:28 eastern time. and how about this?
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100 shuttle fanless get to see the launch up close so they can tweet about it. it may reach 150,000 twitter followers and, of course, we're following it for you. there are now new concerns about a cholesterol drug millions of americans are taking. researchers say sedia didn't shrink build up in walls but its competitor did. those two drug, usually added to other cholesterol medications. the study was paid for by the maker and et study was too small to be reliable. we have good news. health care reform could shave $80 billion of drug costs in the next decade. bad news, drug company, raising prices before the change takes effect. in fact, analysis show prices jumps at the sharpest rate in 10 years and add $10 billion to the nation's drug bill. many drug companies say it's the cost of doing business and research. critics argue they're trying to squeeze customers before the new
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legislation takes effects. one city shows priceses for whole sale name brand drugged soared almost 9% in the last year. when you think of religious services you probably picture a church, a synagogue, a mosque. some log on to their computer. hear what supporters and opponents are saying about virtual church.
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what makes former child stars turn to addiction? an appearance on "issues! with jane velez-mitchell joaden sweeten called it a vicious cycle.
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addicts get high to stop feeling, feel bad about getting high and keept using. danny bonaduce also on the show says he's come to terms in his addiction in his own way by falling off the wagon. >> what happens is this vicious sishgal goes on and on and people and they completely do things that lower their self-esteem. i got tired of doing things that lowered my steph esteem. i figured my place in life and stayed there and am quite comfortable. >> do you get drunk? >> yes. >> okay. but isn't that a problem? i mean, because with addicts we can't just have a couple of drinks. listen, if i could have a couple of drinks i would have a couple of drinks. what happened with me is that when i had the first drink i would develop a craving that completely overwhelmed my mind and my mind would align with my addiction and justify any behave ter took to get that alcohol. so i was not in control. i was a zombie and couldn't stop. then i'd have six drinks and could potentially knock on wood,
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thank god i didn't hurt anybody, or nice physically, but i was a ticking time bomb you know, a loaded gun, whatever cliche want to use. >> that was a perfect example. three drinks, i'm tall. at four drinks i can dance. at five drinks, i'm zac efron. when i wake up in the morning. >> you are not zac efron, dude. >> right. and when i wake up in the morning i'm a 50-year-old man with red air and flesh lish a shar-pei. why wouldn't i rish for the bottle of zac efron again? >> that's our jane. catch jane everybody night at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. no, he's not zac. do you think you can commune whip the higher power through your computer? listen, people of many faiths are now worshipping online. one of the most popular stories today on cnn.com. some christians believe true spiritual connection require rs you to use all your senses but pastors and participants say their experiences are just as
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real as it was happening at your neighborhood church. the paefter of livechurch.tv spoke to hln about it. >> we were blown away at how people could actually worship along and have genuine community and connecting a very spiritual and very real way with an online church. so it's a tool to help, instead of trying to get people to come to a church we feel we can take the church to them. >> virtual church mistakenly gives people the idea all their spiritual needs are being met. cnn.com article comes from staff right here at hln, and you can read more if you just go to the tech page. check it out. the burny madoff action brought in more than $900,000 for the victims of his ponzi scheme. what kind of stuff? well, that. that mets' jacket with his name on the back sold for $14.5 thousand. 20 times expected.
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and ruth madoff diamond earrings went for $70,000. >> it's like getting a plate of china from the "titanic" and bernie madoff may have been about even bigger ship wreck. >> just about everything up for aungz sold for more than auctioneers expected. secretary of defense hillary clinton out of the running in new york governor's race. this weekend she once again shot down claims she's actually planning a campaign. she says she's committed to her current job. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani will decide soon if he will be joining that race for, seat for governor. remember the milwaukee wear moo confronted a man armed with a metal bar? he was helping a woman who was being harassed by a guy outside the state fair last summer? well, he's now running for governor of wisconsin. democrat tom barrett put out of the decision until he recovered from the attack.
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>> less than three months ago i stood here with my family to thank the citizens of milwaukee and people from all over wisconsin for their heartfelt and genuine well wishes and support in the aftermath of the incident that took place outside state fair. at that point in time, i was not thinking about running for governor. i was hurt. i had to heal and get my strength back. >> well, his hand and head were injured. he has ten pins in his hand and doctors removed the last two pins friday. you think you know the news. prove it. challenge your friends, challenge yourself. test your knowledge. you can pick your favorite anchor, like robin meade of "hln's" "morning express" to lead you through this. play now. pretty fun. new details on alleged ft. hood shooter major hasan and his relationship to an american cleric. what the cleric told the "washington post." brand new
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alleged ft. hootd shooter.
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the "washington post" was told he did not order or pressure the u.s. army major hasan to hurt americans. he saw his discomfort with the u.s. military in e-mails exchanged. the cleric told the "post" reporter his killing spree is allowed under islam because it is a form of it jihad and because the united states started the battle in muslim countries. hasan is accused of shooting and killing 13 people at ft. hood and he is still in the hospital. defense secretary robert gates has blocked the release of any new photos that appear to show prerns abusing foreign detainees. the obama administration told the supreme court gates is using his new howers provided by a law signed last month. the aclu sued to vep release and lower courts supported that. this would put u.s. service members in danger, says gates. it's going to about huge story -- >> i absolutely agree. listen to the discussion we've been having today.
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is it important, do you think, for the public to see these alleged abuse photos? or perhaps you agree with secretary gates that releasing these photos, really the only purpose it will serve, put u.s. troops abroad in danger? keep thinking about this. let's talk about it. e-mail at cnn.com/hln. also call at 1-877-835-5456. good comments so far. over the weekend the fbi used equipment like ground penetrating radar at that house in cleveland where the remains of 11 women were found. they used orange paint to mark several spots, and that could indicate we'll see more digging this week at anthony sowell's house and also next door. now the search is expanded four houses down pap woman says her niece found something behind a boarded up house. >> they found bones about this long. they come uning in the house bringing up in the house what they burying.
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mama, look what we found. >> police haven't said if they found human bones in fact behind that house. anthony sowell's attorney hasn't commented about the charges his client is facing. sowell pleaded not guilty to charges he tried to rape a woman who got away, and that's the investigation that led police to all the bodies. a new arrest in the case of a missouri family accused of horrible sex crimes against children. 72-year-old daryl mohler brought into a courtroom saturday chaurged with forceable rape against girls ages 5 and 9. has he said, he had no idea about the allegations. his bail set at $40,000. mohler's brother and four sons back in missouri are charged with crimes including bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old re toiv have an abortion. mohler says he's grown apart from his relatives and has nothing to do with them.
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well, what's left of tropical storm ida moved up the east coast over the weekend after battering the mid-atlantic. one of our ei-reportersgreenwic connecticut. you can see the wave is so big it covers the entire side of the building. the. virginia coast one of the areas hit hard by i'd's remnants and a nor'easter. i-report there william burnstein took a drive along the coast. you can see what high surf has done to the sand bridge area. he says sand is piled up everywhere, all around homes on the beach. couldn't get very far. he had to turn around because roads were blocked. if you've got pictures, video of storm damage in your part of the world, safety first, other than that, we would like for you to share them with us. ireport.com. click on the upload now link. instructions how to get your fvgs to us. we appreciate it into doctors saved a run who are had a heart attack and collapsed steps after
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finishing a marathon and 67-year-old bill zoller had no pulse for 40 minutes. >> i didn't think he'd wake up if he did he'd be limited. at 45 minutes, it's an extremely long time. >> this event had happened during the race at mile nine or mile 20 or so where there was no medical kashg i would have died because they couldn't have got tonight me soon enough. >> 40 minutes, can you believe that? speaking of time, he ran within a minute of his best marathon time ever. looks like we're opening up our wallets more. that isn't just good news in a bad economy it may be a sign the economy's recovering. retail sales more than expected in october. government reported 1.4% rise.
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it's half a percent more than expected. stephen king is a big fan of robin meade, but when the two sat down to chat the author explained why another real-life newscaster is featured in his new novel. y8
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search for a missing north carolina girl takes a grim turn. why police are searching for her body and why the focus is on her mother. could a prids. two hours from chicago become the next guantanamo bay? why one republican congressman is against this idea. president obama says there's something he'd like to see everyone in china have. what they he told a group of students in shanghai. i'm so glad that you're kicking your weekday off with us, your whole week. i'm christi paul. welcome to hln "news and views." an update for you on the 5-year-old girl missing for a week. investigator says they're searching for shaniya davis'
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body along a north carolina highway. police received reliable information she may have been dumped there. however, they also say it is one of several credible tips that also include live sightings. please continue to keep your eyes open for this little girl. police have charged her 25-year-old mother with human trafficking and felony child abuse. antoinette davis due in court in a half hour. she lived with her father until last month. he was hesitant to let her stay with her mother but felt she deserved an opportunity to be part of shayniya's life. >> i had receives. i know she had been working for at least six months and she had been trying to get her life back on track. she said she had just recently got her own place. so i was wanting to give her a chance. she asked if she could be a mother. i fell that she was sincere in asking. and i figured give her a chance.
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>> police have filed kidnapping charges against 29-year-old mario mcneil captured on camera last tuesday. he admitted to taking her but his attorney says he will plead not guilty to that charge. breaking news tonight, watch "nancy grace" for late-breaking details for the search for shaniya 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern on hln. new arrest in the case of a missouri family accused of horrid sex crimes against children. 72-year-old daryl mohler brought into a central florida courtroom saturday and charged with two counts of forcible rape against girls ages 5 and 9. mohler has, quote new york idea about the allegations. his bail's set at $40,000. mohler's brother and four sons back in missouri are charged with crimes including bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old
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relative to have an abortion. mohler has grown apart from his relatives and has nothing to do with them. a body found in the chicago river and investigators believe it is this man, michael scott, president of chicago's board of education. an autopsy is under way. president of the cook county board issued condolences to scott's widow and children. scott's car found nearby and towed away. his family reported him missing yesterday. his career in public service spans three decades. the decision to try five of nine suspects in a court in new york created a heated debate in washington. the argument's clearly do divided among party lines. democrats backing up the president's decision. the trial will show the world how effective and fair the u.s. judicial system is but republicans say, it will give undeserved rights to people like khalid shaikh mohammed, the alleged mastermind behind 9/11. >> we shouldn't close guantanamo
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for the purposes of these terrorists. we're dealing with people who have committed acts of war against us. they shouldn't be tried in our criminal justice system. they should be tried in our military justice system. and it's absolutely inexcusable we're not using the military justice system to try these people. that's why we have such a system. >> if somebody murders americans and they murder americans in america, they ought to be prosecuted in america and hopefully convicted in america. >> republicans say a civilian trial will give the alleged terrorists the public platform that they want. president obama is in beijing, part of his eight-day trip to asia. he met with china's president hu jintao today. china's financed massive sums of u.s. debt and part of the talks may clue assurances investments are safe. the president held a town hall meeting with college students in shanghai where he push for greater freedoms in china. >> we do not seek to impose any
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system of government on any other nation. but we also don't believe that the principles that we stand for are unique to our nation. these freedoms of expression and worship of access to information and political participation, we believe, are universal rights. they should be available to all people, including ethnic and religious minorities, whether they are in the united states, china, or any nation. >> president obama will also visit china's great wall today. the obama administration says people trying to politicize the president's vow to japan's emperor and empress are quote, way, way, way off base. president obama greeted them yesterday. a senior administration official says the president was obamaing appropriate protocol and the trip did nothing but enhance the sbogs status of the u.s. relative to japan.
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>> the space shuttle "atlantis" should be on its way to the international space station later this afternoon. live picture for you as it sits on the platform they plan to launch 2:28 eastern. 100 shuttle fans get to see the launch up close to tweet about it. they're expected to reach 150,000 twitter followers. >> a big mess in seattle, washington. look at what a mudslide has done to this house. fortunately, no one was hurt, but the area's dealing with blustery, rainy days as the first of two storms rolled into the pacific northwest. winds gusted, knocked over trees, causing a few power outages as well. a second storm forecast tomorrow. so you can be on the lookout. a legal battle is heating up between the pentagon and the aclu. at issue, photos that appear to show americans abusing foreign detainees. here's the question. should the pictures be released? your views next.
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could tomson, illinois, be the new guantanamo bay? happening today a government tavgs force visiting a nearly empty prison there. the town two hours west of chicago, could become the new home for suspected terrorists. a republican congressman circulating a letter of opposition to president obama says, we should not invite al qaeda to make illinois its number one target, unquote. democratic senator durbin took issue with that, pointing out dozens of dangerous criminals are already held in illinois prisons. >> there are currently 35 people serve in prisons of illinois convicted of terrorive. we also have people part of colombian drug gangs, mexican drug cartels the toughest, meanest, dirtiest gangs in chicago, all in our prisons and all held safely. >> an obama administration official says security measures at the prison in tomson would be
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enhanced to exceed standards for super maximum standards. robert gates has blocked the release of any new photos that aper to show americans abusing foreign detainees. the obama administration told the supreme court, gates is using his new powers, provided by a law signed last month. aclu sued to have these photos released. gates says the release would put u.s. citizens and service members in danger. >> i absolutely agree -- >> the best thing. >> it's a huge story. >> we are putting the question to you so you can weigh in on this story. richelle carrey is here with highlights of what you're saying. do tell. what are people saying on your facebook page and what are they writing in to us? >> a slight edge to the side that thinks it is a bad idea to release these pictures and there's nothing to be gained from it but we're going to dive in and keep talking about it. maria has been calling -- holding from oregon. i understand that you think this
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is right hinge to do to release the pictures, rather, not to block it? >> caller: yes. just the fact that we have abuse of detainees and photographs, i think this nation should set a standard. we should have transparency and be clean in all that we do. >> do you have any concerns at all? i understand you're overriding impulse that is you want to release them, but do you have any concerns at all? >> caller: yes, i do. but we need to start somewhere with reforming the way that we incarcerate people. >> okay. maria, thank you for your phone call. let's get to north carolina. richard calling from north carolina. you disagree with maria. >> caller: i totally disooh degree. how do you fight uncivilized people civilized? >> uncivilized meaning terrorists?
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>> caller: yes. and all we did over there is scare them. if you look at supposedly torture for them is squaring them. and a little bit of humiliation, that's all it was. we are so civilized with self-destructing of our own ways. >> okay. >> caller: if you look at it, the pictures they're releasing, we are -- we are -- have our hands tied. we have one hand tied behind our back and that's the media, that's the -- tied behind our back. we have a knife in our hand, that's the congress giving us that. >> richard. >> caller: they have a gun. >> i understand what you're saying. you're saying, first you take exception with the knack we're even saying alleged abuse. but no one has seen these pictures that we're talking. thank you for your phone call. as always, we get lots of facebook comments. you want to jump into the discussion, richelle carey hln.
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black says troops would not be in danger if you lee release foeter to swez punish the guilty. if we are americans, we have right to know what the american government is doing in our name. julie says, why beat a dead horse? pics will inflame serious time, make obama's job more difficult and put troops in more harm's way. christie, a lot of comments that i've been getting line up with the last one that i shared with you. >> i actually have one from michelle on my facebook page. if she photos are released our troops are at more risk than they are now. it would give the enemy more fuel to hate. i'm against torture but think about the outcome from it's shown. i've had several, too, saying we're against torture, but the troop safety is utmost importance. >> it is an important topic. do you think that it is right
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that it should happen for the public to see alleged abuse pictures or agree with secretary gates releasing photos, publishing them, the only purpose it would serve is to endanger u.s. troop as broad? cnn.com/hln or call us, text the words views and your name and comment to hln tv. great discussion so far. >> thank you so much. a direct quote, no, no, no, that is a direct quote from secretary of state hillary clinton. the rumor she is putting it rest.
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over the weekend, the fbi used a equipment like ground-penetrating radar at the house in cleveland where the remains of 11 women were found, orange paint to mark off several spots there. and that could indicate that we're going to see more digging this week at anthony sowell's house as well as next door.
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but now that search has expanded about four houses down. one woman says her niece found something behind a boarded-up house. >> they found bones about this long. they come running in the house bringing it in the house with their barehands, talking about look what we found. >> police haven't said whether they found human bones behind the house but sowell's attorney hasn't commented about the murder charges sowell's facing. he pleaded not guilty to charges for allegedly trying to rape another woman who got away but that's the investigation that led police to the bodies there. different views on abortion are rattling the health care reform debate. a white house aide suggests president obama may not support a prigs in tovision in the hous that may ching restricts for abortions. >> president has said repeatedly and he said in his speech to congress that he done believe that this bill should change the status quo, as it relates to the
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issue of abortion. it shouldn't be a debate about abortion. and he's going to work with the senate and the house to try to ensure that at the end of the day the status quo is not changed. >> he refused to say whether president obama would veto a final health care bill that restricts abortion funding but house democrats were split on the controversial amendment. there are new concerns about a cholesterol drug, millions of americans are taking here. researches are say zetia didn't shrink buildups in artery walls but niacin did. the study was paid by niacin's make somewhere zetia's producer says the study was too small to be reliable. count secretary of state hillary clinton out of the running in new york's governor's race. this weekend she once again rejected claims she's planning a campaign. she's committed to her current job. former mayor giuliani says he'll
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decide soon if he will run for the governor's seat. general motors, it's still struggling. the carmaker reported a loss of $1.2 billion from the july 10th to september 30th. there is a bit of good news. gm will start repaying government loans early, anticipating it will pay back $1 billion next month. since the end of 2008 we, as taxpayers, forked over $50 billion to help gm out. looks as though we're opening up our wallets more. that isn't just good news in a bad economy. it may be a key sign the economy's recovering. retail sales rose more than expected in october. the government reports 1.4% rise. half a percentage more than most analysts expected in fact. quite a turnaround. retail sales had fallen 2% the month before. homeowners in financial
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trouble can still save their homes and their credit. acting fast is key here. hln money expert clark howard dells you how. >> i get a lot of questions from people wanting to know if they negotiate a deal with their mortgage lender, how's that going to affect their credit score and credit standing? three major credit bureaus put out a report that says if you just negotiate a new payment plan with your lender, that the affect on your credit score is actually very small. almost meaningless. what if you say i give up and negotiate a short sale? affect on your credit score, getting up there. you lose over 100 points let's say, instead you say, i give up, here are the keys, and allow yourself to be foreclosed on? the affect is actually just a little worse than doing a short sale. if you really want to blow up your credit, you file for bankruptcy because then whether what it will do is drop your
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credit score, you're not going to believe this, but over 300 pointers. bettor stay and try to work something out. i'm clark howard. for more ways to smart with your wallet go to cnn.com/clark howard. >> wow, 300 points. get more great consumer advice from the one and only clark howard saturday and sunday at noon and 4:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln news and views. clark's going to help you save more, spend less, avoid getting ripped off. a passenger plane hit a flock of birds right after take-off this weekend. the frontier airlines jet hit them at 4,000 feet above kansas city saturday. >> i heard this rumble, bang, you know, boom, boom, and saw kind of like a flash, and then you saw smoke and then, you know, we started decreasing in altitude. >> quite a jolt, wouldn't it? a spokeswoman says the birds hit
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both engines but one lost power. the plane did land safely. a bird strike forced another plane to land in the hudson river in january. when you think religious services you think of a church or sin ga nothing or mosque. id
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charges against mario mcneill. he was captured on surveillance camera carrying shaniya into a hole room. cops said he admitted to taking the girl but will plead not guilty to the charges. shaniya lived with her father until last month. he was hesitant to let her stay with her mother but felt she deserved an opportunity to be part of shaniya's life. >> of course, you know, i had some reserves, however, you know, she had been trying. i know she had been working for
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at least six months. she had been trying to get her life back on track and she said she had just recently got her own place. so i was wanting to give her a chance. she asked if she could be a mother. i felt that she was sincere in asking. i figured give her a chance. >> again, devastating news we're getting in. we're waiting for a press conference from north carolina scheduled to begin at any moment. as as that comes in to us we'll take you there live. the space shuttle awaits its lawn inch an hour. john zarrella at kennedy space center in florida for details on this mission. >> reporter: that's right. under an hour before the space shuttle "atlantis" scheduled to lif off from the kennedy space center 11-day mission, 6 astronauts going up. only six this time, first time since 2006 that they've only carried six astronauts.
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this is really a spare parts mission. there's only six flights left in the space shuttle program. this is last one this year. five next year. then that's the end of the shuttle program. between now and then, they've got to bring up all kinds of big spare parts and they're going to stack them literally on pallets, attached to outside of the international space station. so they're going to have three space walks on this mission, part of what they'll be doing during space walks, getting all of the pallets out there and all of that heavy equipment stored because they're there won't be a vehicle big enough to bring up large pieces after the shuttle is retired the end of next year. when they come back, though, there will be seven astronauts on board. nicole stot, up there 2 1/2 months returning on this mission. six up, seven coming down, christie. if all goes well here, it's cloudy here, little overcast, but it's low clouds and everything is green from that
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weather standpoint for the launch of the space shuttle "atlantis." >> i joke that you have the best view of launches but i understand that some tweeters are keeping you company this time around? >> reporter: yeah, that's exactly right. nasa, about a month ago, posted a -- what they're calling their tweet-up and invited the first 100 tweeters to sign up on a site that nasa put out there and that site sold out in literally two minutes. people from all over the world, mostly from the united states, but there are people from new zealand are here from great britain are here, someone here from morocco, and they're all right now and have been, they're tweeting and twittering and doing all in a ten that nasa has it set up in a tent. they are extremely excited to be here it'sen and very successful. we have had a chance to talk to them earlier today. they just can't wait. none have ever been this close
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to a space shuttle launch. it's a real treat for the twitters. and they their tent, they call that the twent. >> all of the new verbiage that's coming out of twitter. >> reporter: yeah. >> i'll tell ya. we should clarify, those people won this contest but had to pay their own way, right? >> reporter: yeah. absolutely. they had to pay their own way to come here. even the ones as far away as new zealand, they were happy to pony up the cost to have this opportunity, no question about it. >> always good to see you, my friend. >> reporter: my pleasure. well, president obama is in beijing, part of his eight-day trip to asia and met with hu jintao this morning. president obama was checking in with wu.s.' biggest banker. china's government may need assurances that its huge holdings of u.s. dollars in debt are safe. president obama held a town hall
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meeting with college students in shanghai where he pushed for greater freedoms in china. >> we do not seek to impose any system of government on any other nation, but we also don't believe that the principles that we stand for are unique to our nation. these freedoms of expression and worship of access to information and political participation, we believe, are universal rights. they should be available to all people, including ethnic and religious minorities, whether they are in the united states, china, or any nation. >> president obama will also visit china's great wall. the obama administration says people trying to politicize the president's bow to china's emperor are empress are quote, way, way, way off base. president obama greeted the couple and seent yor officinior
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president was observing proper pro-p pro-c protocol. a bood yo found in the chicago river they believe it's this man, michael scott. autopsy is under way right now but the president of the cook county board issued condolences to scott's widow and children. in fact, scott's car was found nearby and towed away. his family reported him missing yesterday. scott's career in public service spans three decades. dr. conrad murray, under investigation in michael jackson's death, will be in a las vegas court today but the hearing isn't directly related to the jackson case. murray will ask the judge to make minimal child payments for now because he can get work. he's fallen more than $14,000 behind in payments to a california woman and her son. murray's the focus of a homicide investigation by l.a. police. he reportedly told them he gave jackson a powerful anesthetic
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before the singer died. defense secretary robert gates has blocked the release of any new photos that aper to show americans abusing foreign detainees. the obama administration told the supreme court, gates is using his new power provided by a law signed last month. gates says the release would put u.s. citizens and service members in danger. >> i absolutely agree -- >> it's a huge story. >> so we want to throw the question at you here and get your opinion. is it important for the public to see these alleged abuse pictures or do you agree with secretary gates that the publication of the photos would endanger u.s. troops? e-mail us at cnn.com/hln or text the word views and your name and comment to hln tv or go to facebook christi paul hln. we'd love to hear from you.
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we have brand-new details on the alleged ft. hood shooter. a clering told t"the washington post" he did not pressure hasan to hurt americans. he saw hasan's growing discomfort with the u.s. military and e-mails they exchanged. the cleric told the post the killing spree is allowed under islam because it's a form of jihad and the u.s. started the battle in muslim countries. hasan's accused of killing and shooting 13 people in ft. hood. hasan is still hospitalized. federal officials visit an illinois prison that the government might buy to house guantanamo bay detainees. why some critics are speaking out about this plan.
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we are following sad news out of north carolina where police have found the body of missing 5-year-old shaniya davis. she disappeared last week. according to media reports and the associated press, her body was found near a north carolina road south of sanford. we are expecting a news conference this afternoon. we will bring that to you live when it happens. but here what happens we know. police have charged shaniya's 25-year-old mother with human trafficking and felony child abuse. antoinette davis is due in court this afternoon. police have filed kidnapping charges against 29-year-old mario mcneill, captured on camera last tuesday carrying shaniya into a hotel room 30 miles from her home. cops say he admitted to taking the girl. there he is. but his attorney says he will plead not guilty to the charge. again, awaiting a press conference and we'll bring that to you live when it happens. what makes former child stars turn to addiction?
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in an appearance on issues with jane develvelez mitchell, jodie sweetin called it a vicious cycle. they feel bad about getting high so they keep using. danny bonaduce has come to terms with addiction in his own way, by falling off the wagon. >> what happens is this vicious cycle goes on and on with people and they completely do 'do things that lower self-esteem. i got tired of doing things that lower made self-esteem so i figured my place in life and stayed there, and i'm quite comfortble. do you get drunk? >> yes. >> okay. isn't that a problem? i mean because with addicts we can't just have a couple of drinks. listen, if i could have a couple of drinks i would have a couple of drinks. what happened with me is that when i had the first drink, i would develop a craving that completely overwhelmed my mind. and my mind would align with my addiction and justify any behavior that it took to get
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that alcohol. so i was not in control. i was a zombie. i couldn't stop. so then i would have six drinks and i could potentially knock on wood, thank god i didn't hurt anybody or myself physically, but i was a ticking time bomb, you know, loaded gun, whatever cliche you want to use. >> that was a perfect example, though. three drinks i'm tall. at four drinks i can dance. at five drinks i'm zac efron. when i wake up in the morning -- >> you are not zac efron, dude. >> when i wake up in the morning i'm a 50-year-old man with red hair. why wouldn't i reach for the bottle of zac efron. >> classic line from jane. catch her at 7:00 p.m. eastern. you are not zac efron, dude. what's left of tropical storm ida? moved up the east coast over the weekend, battering the
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mid-atlantic. one i-report sent a photo of a wave hitting a seawall in greenwich, kth. you can see the wave so big, it covers part of the building. the virginia coast hit hard by ida's remnants and nor'easter as well. repeat i-report william burnstein took a drive along the coast. see what the high surf has done to the sand bridge area, that's where this is. burnstein says sand is piled up everywhere around homes on the beach. he couldn't get far, and he actually had to return because roads were blocked. if you have pictures, video of storm damage in your neck of the woods or stories you'd like to share, go to ireport.com, click on the upload now link. find instructions how to submit your stories. you think you know the news? prove it. challenge your friends, yourself, test your knowledge. pick your favorite anchor of morning egg press to lead you through it. play now at cnnchallenge.com. is the united states turning
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socialist? some people believe so. new militia groups are springing up like weeds in the springtime. but are they patriots or extremists?
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could tomson, illinois be the new guantanamo bay? a government task force is visiting a nearly empty prison there today. it could become the new home for suspected terrorists. a republican congressman circulating a letter of opposition addressed to president obama. we should not invite al qaeda to make illinois its number one target. a democratic senator, dick durbin, took issue with that, pointing out dozens of dangerous criminals are held in illinois prisons. >> there are currently 35 people serving in the prisons of illinois convicted of terrorism. we also have people who are part of colombian drug gangs, mexican drug cartels, the toughest, meanest gangs in chicago, all in our prisons and all held safely. >> obama administration official says the security measures that the prison in tomson would be enhanced to exceed supermax
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standards. the decision to try five of september 11th suspects in a court in new york created one heated debate in washington. probably where you are, too everyone's talking about it. the argument's divided along party leans. the democrats are backing the president's decision. they say the trial will show the world how effective and fair the system is. republicans say it will give undeserved rights to people like khalid shaikh mohammed, the alleged mastermind behind september 11th. >> when we shouldn't close guantanamo for the purposes of these type of terrorists, basically we're dealing here with people who have v. committed acts of war against us, they shouldn't be tried in our criminal justice system. they should be tried in the military justice system. it's unexcusable we're not using the u.s. system to try the people. that's why we have such a system. >> if somebody murders americans and they murder americans in america, they ought to be
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prosecuted in america and hopefully convicted in america. >> republicans say, civilian trial will also give the alleged terrorist the public platform they want. deep in the woods of michigan and across the country, there are men and women wearing camouflage, firing guns, and since the election of president obama numbers have surged apparently. there are 100 new militias across the country. what are they training for? many say they're afraid their right to buy and own guns may disappear. >> any time we get a democratic president in the office people become concerned, including myself and we resurgence out here. >> just the simple fact that we are out here and we are doing this will give somebody pause, will make them think twice. >> because you're ready to defend your rights. >> ultimately, yes. >> there really is this kind ofder bell fear mixed with feur about the idea that president obama is somehow leading a kind
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of socialistic, you know, takeover of america. >> the members of the michigan militia in that video insist they're not extremists. cnn contacted the fbi, the department of homeland security and the atf to ask about the story, but all three declined to comment, just so you know. the federal reserve is taking a good swipe at gift card fees, and restrictions. as we head into the holidays. it's proposing new rules to protect gift card users from unexpected costs for at least a year, and extending gift kardex perrations to at least five years. the feds' action is based on a allow congress passed in may. the new rules would go into effect next august, but before then, the fed is open to feedback from the public and industry groups, saying the new rules could be revised before they're put into place. and certainly we're talking about gift cards and just money in general. i know we're feeling the pinch. well, hln money expert clark howard wants to help you. log on to cnn.com/clark, submit your i report, and you could be selected to be profiled on our
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network, getting valuable advice from america's money coach. the bernie madoff auction brought in more than $900,000 for the victims of his ponzi scheme. that mets jacket with his name on it, the back, sold for $14,500, 20 times expected. rude madoff's earrings went for $70,000. one buyer explained her fascination with madoff's stuff. >> it's like getting a plate of china from the titanic and bernie madoff may have been an even bigger ship wreck. >> more news coming up in just a moment. 
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a heart breaking development from north carolina where police in fayetteville say they found the body of missing 5-year-old shania davis. we've got the latest on this breaking development. severe weather hits the northwest in a wall of mud
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crashing down a hillside in one area. and more ugly weather could be on the way. what forecasters are predicting for the next 24 hours. and the movie "2012" wins big, huge at the box office over the weekend. how i-reporters are reacting to the end of the world film. this is hln news and views, i'm richelle carey. let's get to breaking news right now, coming from fayetteville, north carolina, the news no one wanted to hear in the search of a 5-year-old girl missing for nearly a week. cnn has confirmed investigators have found shania davis's body. police in fayetteville have been searching all morning after getting a tip she had been dumped along a highway in south central north carolina. they're planning to hold a news conference in 30 minutes to give us more details. in the meantime, police have charged shaniya's 25-year-old mother with human trafficking and felony child abuse. antoinette davis is due in court
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about half an hour. shaniya lived with her father until last month, and he said he was hesitant to let her be with her mother, but said she deserved a chance to be part of her life. >> of course i had some reserves, but i know she had been trying and had been working for at least six months, and she had been trying to get her life back on track and she said she just recently got her own place. so i was wanting to give her a chance. she had asked if she could be a mother, and i felt that she was sincere in asking, and felt i could give her a chance. >> police in north carolina have also filed kidnapping charges in the case against 29-year-old mario mcneil, he was captured carrying shaniya into a hold room 30 miles from her home. police say he admitted to taking her, but his attorney says he will plead not guilty to the charge. we believe her body has been
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found, and there will be a press conference in half an hour. watch "nanny grace" for the late-breaking developments in shaniya's death. right here on hln. a new arrest in the case of the sex crimes against children. 72-year-old darryl moeller was brought into a courtroom saturday in charge of two counts of forcible rape against girls age 5 and 9. he says he has, quote, no idea about the allegations. his bail has been set at $40,000. moehler's brothers and four sons in missouri are accused with crimes that are unthinkable. bestiality, and forcing an 11-year-old to have an abortion. moeller says he has been apart from his relatives and has nothing to do with them. a body was found in a chicago river this morning and investigators believe it's that of michael scott, chicago's board of education. an autopsy is under way. the president of the cook county board issued condolences to
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scott's widow and children. his car was found nearby and towed away. his family reported him missing yesterday. his public service spans about three decades. intense winds up to 60 miles per hour ripped through parts of western washington state this morning. the blast part of a storm which triggered blackouts, downed trees and a mudslide, as you can see there. two cars were buried. also got a garage. the residents weren't hurt. the forecast calls for continued strong winds and a flood warning has been issued for parts of the river west of seattle. brand-new details on the alleged ft. hood shooter. the "washington post" has been told he did not order or pressure nidal hasan to murder americans. he said he could tell by his e-mail exchanges he was becoming uncomfortable in the military. and he also told reporters that
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hasan's killing spree is allow under islam, because it is jihad, and the united states started the battle. huh sad hasan is accused of killing 13 people. the decision to try suspects in a new york court has created a heated debate in washington, and the argument is clearly divided among party lines. democrats are backing up the president's decision, and say the trial will show the world how effective and share the u.s. judicial system is. but republicans say it will just give undeserved rights to people like khalid sheikh mohammed, the alleged mastermind behind 9/11. >> basically, we're dealing here with people who committed acts of war against us. they shouldn't be tried in our criminal justice system. they should be tried in our military justice system, and it's absolutely inexcusable we're not using the military justice system to try these people. that's why we have such a system. >> if somebody murders
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americans, and they murder americans in america, they ought to be prosecuted in america. and convicted in america. >> republicans say a civilian trial will also give the alleged terrorists the public platform they want. another debate. could thompson, illinois be the new guantanamo bay? this is two hours west of chicago, and it could become the new home for suspected terrorists. a republican congressman is circulating a letter of opposition addressed to president obama. it says, quote, we should not invite al qaeda to michael i will michael i will its target. it's pointed out dangerous criminals are already being held in prisons. >> there are currently 35 people serving in the prisons of illinois convicted of terrorism.
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we also have people part of column ban drug gangs, mexican drug cartels, the toughest, meanest, dirtiest gangs this chicago, all in our prisons and held safely. >> an obama official says the security measures would be enhanced to exceed those at super max prisons. a fallen marine documented his military life for his parents, and they didn't know about it until after his death. some of the footage was featured on nbced "today" show this morning. >> here's some more of the streets of fallujah. a bunch of little kids. i just gave them like 50 denars to some little kid because his house blew up, so i gave him some money. >> i get to come home in about four and a half months, which is something to look forward to. >> well, just two days after that video, billy spencer was hit by enemy fire, while trying to save his squad leader. he was just 19 when he joined the marines, and was killed within a year. members of billy's squadron
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actually delivered the videos to his parents. they talked about receiving the unexpected package and what they have seen during their "today" show appearance. >> i haven't watched them all. i haven't completely seen everything. i do a little bit at a time. >> it took me a long time, also, to finally watch them. crying is one of a father's greatest emotions, and i consider myself the proudest father in the world. i could not be prouder of billy. even before he went. >> wow. the series of home movies began with his departure to iraq. and billy and his fellow marines had a pact that if anything ever happened to one of them, the others would down load what was on their computer and give it to the family before the government erased it. president obama is in
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beijing right now as part of his eight-day trip to asia. he met with china's president, hu jintao earlier this morning. in a sense, the president was checking in with the u.s.'s biggest banker. china has financed massive sums of u.s. debt, and china's government may need assurance that its huge holdings of debt are safe. president obama also held a town hall meeting with college students in shanghai today, and pushed for greater freedoms in china. the president will also visit china's great wall today. and the obama administration says people trying to politicize the president's vows to japan's emperor and empress were, quote, way, way off base. during his visit to the empearl palace, a senior administration official says he was observing appropriate protocol and his trip did nothing but enhance the position and status of the u.s. relative to china. here is something we are keeping an eye on for you. look at that, live pictures of the space shuttle "atlantis"
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could be on its way to the space station in a few minutes. it's scheduled to launch 2:28 eastern. and about 100 shuttle fans will get a chance to see this up close so they can tweet about it. it's expected to reach about 150,000 twitter followers. good for them. many unclaimed bodies waiting to buried are piling up, and are counting more in michigan. hear hour one woman is helping people say goodbye to loved ones.
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looks like we're opening up our wallets more, and that is good news in a bad economy. it may be a key sign that the economy is recovering. retail sales actually rose more than expected in october. the government reported a 1.4% rise, thanks in part to strong demand for cars. nearly half a percent more than analysts are expecting, and it's quite a turn around, because retail sales have fallen more than 2% the month before.
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struggles have been well documented. soaring unemployment, massive foreclosures, even bodies piling up at the morgue. last month we told you how the county had run out of money for burying its unclaimed dead. that story prompted one cnn viewer to take action. cnn money.com's poppy harlow has our follow-up report. >> paul mcgraph passed away november 16th at the age of 61. >> may he rest in peace. >> reporter: six people buried in detroit. at a local funeral home, those who never knew them mourned them. >> no one is alone. you know, we feel like islands, but not one of us is. a loss of someone who died three years ago is everybody's loss. >> reporter: in a city of abandoned houses, abandoned factories and abandoned people, a record number of unclaimed
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bodies piled up at the wayne county morgue. >> this is our freezer. >> reporter: their next of kin unable or unwilling to pay for their burial. >> we're going to finish that in a moment, but we take you to north carolina now for the latest on finding shani shaniya davis's body. >> official release. i can tell everybody that a body was located of a small child a little while ago off of walker road. about 100 feet off of the road. at this time, a positive identification will be made by family. and as soon as we have that positive identification, we'll have more information. at 4:30 this afternoon, i'll be happy to hold a press conference back at the fayetteville police department. my hopes is by that time we'll have that positive identification and will be able to release some more information to you all. but again, we have located a body based on some information that we obtained. we can confirm that that body is
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the child, and it was located off of walker road. and that's all i have at this time. [ inaudible question ] >> no, not until it's identified positively by the family. >> how far off of walker road? >> about 100 feet. [ inaudible question ] >> what about charges? >> charges will be forthcoming, depending on how the investigation goes. >> where is the case right now? >> if the body is found in lee county, then, of course, they have jurisdiction. >> the body was found in a tip on the ground? >> i don't have that information yet. we have people working very aggressively out there right now. so, again, by 4:30, i'll have some additional information. >> are you saying the body was found in lee county? >> their jurisdiction. >> the child is still there, they would be in charge? >> right. >> so --
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>> i can't speak to any of that information right now. this is all i have right now. [ inaudible question question ] >> she was located by searchers. >> right now, everything is a blur. it's probably close to an hour ago. >> has family been notified. >> we're not searching right now. >> has family been identified besides the father, and what family? >> the family -- we just have to get a positive identification. i'll leave it at that right now. we've -- >> was this body badly beaten? >> i can't speak to that right now. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't know in this situation where that will take place. i have no other information right now. again, at 4:30, i'll be happy to entertain any questions and release any information i have. again, i'll do that a little bit more officially in a press release i'll send out as soon as i have some information. >> all right. we're expecting more information
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to come to us from north carolina, but this is what we know so far. it appears they're still waiting on confirmation for someone to take a look at this child's body. a family member. but we believe that the body of 5-year-old sha mia davis has been found off a road, in lee county, north carolina. she has been missing since last week when her mother said she put her down to sleep and an hour later she was gone. there is a body that has been found off of a search, information police got, and they did find a body who they believe to be shaniya , and her mother s facing charges of human trafficking and felony child abuse. we don't know what other charges may come as a result of this discovery today. but we'll keep you posted on this. a legal battle is heating up between the pentagon about
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americans abusing foreign detainees. should they be released?
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this student's day story turned out to be a big, huge winner at the box office. the disaster tale, "2012" opened with $225 million worldwide, and also the number-one movie the in the u.s. reviews mostly positive. the special effects outstanding and expects the movie to keep raking in big bucks. >> this is going to be a worldwide sensation, because it's going to appeal to just about everyone around the world, because, again, they're talking about the end of the world. this is based on the mayan
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calendar, 2012. so three years from now when we hit 2012, we'll see the same scenario as y2k. it will be amazing to see. this film is a great disaster film, probably one of the best ever done. i give it an a. >> okay. i-reporter barbara rademacher from rodgers, arkansas calls "2012" pretty good. she says it's obvious the science is iffy, and other parts of the plot are unrealistic. despite that, she liked the movie, but thinks the director should make it better with a few cuts. >> the only thing that i had a problem with in the whole two hours and forty minutes of that movie was that it was forty minutes too long. about two hours through the movie, my butt started hurting, and i started fidgeting, and i started wishing the movie would get over. >> if you want to share a movie
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review, head to i report.com, and think of us when you have breaking news or cool stories from your part of the world. just click on the upload now button, and the instructions are pretty easy. new concerns about a cholesterol drug millions of americans are using. researchers say zetia didn't shrink build ups in artery walls. the drug is usually added to other cholesterol medications. the study was paid for by its competitor's maker. your views just ahead. don't go anywhere.
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just a little monday commute. nasa-style. live pictures now, they just launched shuttle "atlantis," it's streaking into orbit. if you had to guess, you may guess right, i would have guessed wrong. it's going 200 miles an hour.
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unbelievable pictures there. everything went off without a hitch at about 2:28 eastern time. and you can see those rocket boosters that -- even us amateurs know what they are, starting to separate right on time, as planned. amazing pictures. we should never take things like this for granted. all right. look at that. in spite of low clouds, the weather cooperated in the end. you can see this all wept off without a hitch a few minutes ago. the shuttle blasted off in florida. listen. >> three, two, one, zero. and liftoff! space shuttle "atlantis" on a mission to build, resupply and -- >> nice. the six astronauts smiled and waved as they headed to the launch pad early early today. "atlantis," this mission is about big spare parts for the international space station. nasa wants to stock as much equipment as possible before the shuttle fleet is retired next year. this is an 1 1-day flight and
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will keep the astronauts in orbit through thanksgiving. back to the live pictures here, this is nasa's last shuttle flight of the year, and we wanted to show you quite a bit of that. enjoy that. wow. back to the breaking news story from fayetteville, north carolina. really sad news. no one wanted this to be the outcome in the search for a 5-year-old girl missing for nearly a week. investigators say they believe they have found the body of shaniya davis. >> a body was located of a small child a little while ago off of walker road. about 100 feet off of the road. at this time, a positive identification will be made by family. and as soon as we have that positive identification, we'll have more information. >> cops have been searching for shaniya all morning and say they got a tip saying she had been dumped along a highway in central north carolina. investigators have charged her
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25-year-old mother with human trafficking and felony child abuse. antonette davis is due in court at any moment now. shaniya had been living with her father until last month, and he said he was hesitant to let her stay with her mother, but he thought she deserved ab opportunity to be part of shaniya's life. >> of course, she had been trying, and i know that she had been working for at least six months, and she had been trying to get her life back on track, and she said she had just recently got her own place. so i was wanting to give her a chance. she asked if she could be a mother, and i felt that she was sincere in asking. and i figured, give her a chance. >> police in north carolina have also filed kidnapping charges in this case against 29-year-old mario mcneill captured last tuesday on surveillance video carrying her into a hotel room 30 miles from her home. police say he admitted to taking
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her, but his attorney says he will plead not guilty to the charge. so all of the breaking news tonight. watch nancy grace for the late-breaking developments on sha mia's death. and we expect another news conference in the next couple hours. a new arrest in the case of a missouri family accused of horrible sex crimes against children. 7 76-year-old darryl moehler is charged with two counts of forcible rape against two girls, 5 and 9. he says he has no idea about the allegations. his bail has been set at $40,000. moeller's brother and four sons in missouri are charged with crimes, including bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old relative to have an abortion. moehler says he has grown apart from his relatives and has nothing to do with them. a body was found in the chicago river this morning, and investigators believe it is that of michael scott, the president of chicago's board of education. an autopsy is being performed right now. the president of the cook county
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board issued condolences to scott's widow and children. scott's car was found nearby and towed away. his family reported him missing yesterday. scott's career in public service splans three decades. intense winds up to 60 miles per hour went through washington state, triggered blackouts, ripped down trees and caused a mudslide there. two cars were buried and took out the garage of people who lived there. the people were fine. they weren't hurt. the forecast calls for continued strong winds, and a flood warning has been issued for parts of the scomomish river. president obama is on an eight-day trip to china, he met with hu jintao early this morning. and in a sense, the president was checking in with u.s.'s biggest banker, as china has financed massive sums of u.s. debt, and they may need
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assurance that its holdings in u.s. dollars is safe. the president also had a meeting with college students in shanghai talking about greater freedoms in china. >> we do not seek to impose any system of government on any other nation. but we also don't believe that the principles that we stand for are unique to our nation. these freedoms of expression and worship, of access to information and political participation, we believe are universal rights. they should be available to all people. including ethnic and religious minorities. whether they are in the united states, china or any nation. >> the president will also visit china's great wall. the obama administration says people trying to poll it size the president's bow to japans was way off base. you can see him saturday during his visit to the imperial palace. a senior administration official
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says mr. obama was observing protocol and did nothing but enhance the position and the status of the u.s. relative to japan. from guantanamo to illinois, a government task force towards a prison which may house terrorism suspects in the land of lincoln, the state's politicians ramp up their arguments for and against this controversial plan.
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could thompson, illinois be the new guantanamo bay? is happening today, a government task force is visiting a nearly empty prison there. this town is about two miles west of chicago, and it could become the new home for suspected terrorists. a republican congressman is circulating a letter of opposition addressed to president obama. it reads, we should not
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invite al qaeda to michael i will its number-one target. dick durbin took issue with that, pointing out dozens of criminals are now being held in u.s. prisons. >> there are currently 35 people serving in the principsons of illinois convicted of terrorism. we also have people who are part of columbian drug gangs, mexican drug cartels, the toughest, meanest, dirtiest criminals in had chicago are all held in our prisons safely. >> an obama administration official says security would be enhanced to exceed those of super max prisons. defense secretary robert gates has blocked the release of any new photos that appear to show americans abusing foreign detainees. the obama administration told the supreme court, gates is using his new powers provided by a law signed last month. the aclu, soon to have them released, and is lower courts supported that. but gates says the release would
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put u.s. citizens and service members in danger. the decision to try five september 11th suspects in a civilian court in new york has created a heated debate in washington, and the argument is divided along party lines. democrats, who were backing up the president's decision say the trial will show the world how effective and fair the judicial system is, and the u.s. but republicans say it will give undeserved rights to people like khalid sheikh mohammed, the alleged mastermind behind september 11th. >> we shouldn't close guantanamo for the purposes of these terrorists. basically, we're dealing with people who committed acts of war against us, and shouldn't be tried in our criminal justice system. they should be tried in our military justice system, and it's absolutely inexcusable we're not using the military justice testimony to try these people. that's why we have such a system. >> if somebody murders americans and they murder americans in america, they ought to be prosecuted in america, and hopefully convicted in america.
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>> republicans say a civilian trial will also give the alleged terrorists a public platform they want. brand-new details on the alleged ft. hood shooter. an american cleric is telling the "post" he did not order nidal to hurt americans. he saw his discomfort in e-mail exchanges. he is also telling "the post" his killing spree is allowed because it's a form of jihad and the united states started the battle in muslim countries. hasan is accused of killing and shooting 13 people at ft. hood. he is in the hospital. a fallen marine documented his military life for his parents, and they didn't know about it until after his death. some of this gfootage was featured on nbc's "today" show this morning. >> this is the streets of fallujah. just some good kids, a bunch of little kids, i just gave 50
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denars to some little kid because his house blew up, so i gave him some money. >> i get to come home in four and a half months, which is something to look forward to. >> well, two days after that video, billy spencer was hit by enemy fire while trying to save his squad leader. he was just 19 when he joined the marines and was killed within a year. members of the his squadron actually delivered the videos to his parents, because they had talked about receiving the unexpected package and what they had seen during their "today" show appearance. >> i haven't watched them all. i haven't completely seen everything. i'm a little bit at a time. >> it took me a long time also to finally watch them. pride is one of a father's greatest emotions, and i consider myself the proudest father, in the world. i could not be prouder of billy,
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even before he went. >> a series of home movies began with his departure to iraq, and billy and his fellow marines had a pact, if anything ever happened to one of them, the others would down load what was on their computer and give it to the marine's family before the government erased it from the hard drive. different views on abortion are rattling the health care reform debate. a white house aide suggests president obama may not score the position in the house bill that would change the restrictions for federal funding for abortions. >> well, president has said repeatedly, and he said in his speech to congress that he doesn't believe that this bill should change the status quo as it relates to the issue of abortion. this shouldn't be a debate about abortion. and he's going to work with the senate and the house to try to ensure that at the end of the day, the status quo is not changed. >> he refused to say whether president obama would veto a
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final health care bill that restricts abortion funding. house democrats are split on the controversial amendment. when you think of religious services, you probably picture a church, a synagogue, a mosque of some sort, maybe a big choir? but some people say they are attending services by simply logging on to their computer. hear what supporters and opponents are saying about virtual church.
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over the weekend, the fbi used equipment like ground penetrating radar at that house in cleveland where the remains of 11 women were found. they used also orange paint to mark several spots, and that could indicate more digging this weekend at anthony sowell's house and also next door. now the search has expanded four houses down. a woman says a niece found something behind a boarded up house. >> they found bottles this long, and come running up to the house with their bare hands, look what we found. >> well, police haven't said whether they found any human bones behind that house. sowe sowell's attorney hasn't comment commented about the murder
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charges he is facing. he tried to rape a woman and she got away, and that's what led police to the bodies. a flock of birds hit a plane right after takeoff. it hit them about 4,000 feet above kansas city saturday. >> heard this rumble, bang, boom boom, and then kind of like a flash. and then you saw smoke. and then, you know, we started decreasing in altitude. >> an airport spokesperson says the birds hit both engines, but only one lost power. the plane did land safely. and you'll remember, it was a bird strike that forced a usairways plan to land in the hudson river in january. >> a guy in texas who wrecked his $1.7 million car says a bird distracted him. a lot of birds causing so many problems. he ended up crashing the vehicle in a salt marsh. then again, this thing is kind of hard to drive.
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he may not admit to that, but it is the fastest street-legal car you can buy, goes 250 miles an hour, and has 1,000 horsepower. the owner says he doesn't know if it can be salvaged. a bird distracted him. okay. the federal reserve is taking a look at gift card fees and restrictions and appropriating new rules for unexpected costs for at least a year, and expirations extending to at least five years. it's based on a law congress passed in may. the new rules will go into effect next august, and before then, the feedback from the public and industry groups saying the new rules could be revised before they're actually but in place. homeowners in financial trouble can still save their homes and their credit. acting fast, though, is the key. hln money expert clark howard tells you how. >> i get a lot of questions from people wanting to know if they negotiate a deal with their mortgage lender, how is that
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going to affect their credit score and credit standing? well, the three major credit bureaus put out a report that says that if it you just negotiate a new payment plan with your lender, that the effect on your credit score is actually very small, almost meaningless. but what if you say, i give up, and you negotiate a short sale? the effect on your credit score, getting up there. you lose over 100 points. let's say instead you just say, i give up, here are the keys, and you allow yourself to be foreclosed on. the effect is actually just a little worse than doing a short sale. but if you really want to blow up but if you really want to blow up your credit, you file for bankruptcy. because then it will drop your credit score over 300 points. it's better to stay and try to work something out. i'm clark howard. for more ways for you to be smart with your wallet go to
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cnn.com/clarkhoward. >> get more great consumer advice from clark howard every saturday and sunday at noon and 4:00 p.m. eastern time. he'll help you save more, spend less, and avoid getting ripped off. do you think you can commune with the higher power through your computer. people at many banks are now worshipping online. it's one of the most popular stories today at cnn.com. some christians believe true spiritual networks require you to use all your senses. the pastor of lifechurch.tv spoke about this. >> we were blown away how people could worship along and connect in a very spiritual and very real way with an online church.
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instead of trying to get people to come to a church we feel like we can take a church to them. >> critics say it gives people the idea of all of their spiritual needs are being met. the cnn.com article come from staff here at hln. read more on the tech page. very interesting story. would you sleep on the street for days on end all for a movie? what all these people are so anxious to see. @@@@@@@@
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such sad news from north carolina where police have found the body of shaniya davis. the 5-year-old's mother heads to court to face charges of child trafficking. federal officials working to
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close gitmo are working. what the locals think of the idea. also, liftoff for space shuttle "atlantis." what the astronauts are bringing to the international space station. thank you so much for sharing your company with us. i'm christi paul. we're all holding out hope here. the news is what no one wanted to hear in the search for the 5-year-old girl missing for a week. investigators believe they have found shaniya davis' body. >> her body was located of a small child a little while ago off of walker road. about 100 feet off the road. at this time a positive identification will be made by family. as soon as we have the positive identification we'll have more information. >> police have been searching for shaniya all morning after getting a tipped she was dumped along a central new york
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highway. investigators have charged shaniya's 25-year-old mother with human trafficking and felon child abuse. antoinette davis is scheduled to be in court right now, in fact. police in california have filed kidnapping charges in the case against mario mcneill. he was captured carrying shaniya into a hotel room 30 miles from her home. police say he admitted to taking the girl. his attorney says he'll plead not guilty to that charge. tune in to nancy grace for the latest in the case. "issues with jane velez-mitchell" will also be covering the story. both here for us on hln. federal officials are touring a western illinois prison right now. that prison may soon be used to house guantanamo bay detainees. all checking out the facility as we speak. some republican lawmakers say the plan is too risky. but some residents we talk to
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support moving detainees there because they say it would give the local economy a boost. >> got this big expensive building over there sitting there empty, or practically. they could put some people to work. that's what we need here. >> we need jobs in our area. very depressed. economically and emotionally. people are looking for jobs. >> gitmo is not being closed. it's being moved. the threats of gitmo, that hatred and animosity will also transfer to northwest, illinois, thereby making the entire country a magnet for terrorists. >> democratic u.s. senator dick durbin of illinois dismissing his comments as political strategy and fear mongering.
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the decision to try five of the 9/11 suspects in the civilian courtroom in new york has created a heated debate in washington and all over the place. the arguments clearly divided along party lines, at least in the nation's capitol. democrats are backing up the president's decision saying the trial will show the world how effective and fair the u.s. judicial system is. republicans say it will give rights to people like khalid muhammad. >> these people committed acts of war against us. they should be tried in our military justice system. it's absolutely inexcusable we're not using the military justice system to try the people. that's why we have such a system. >> if somebody murders americans and they murder americans in america. they ought to be prosecuted in america. and hopefully convicted in
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america. >> republicans say a civilian trial will give the alleged terrorists the public platform that they want. take a look at the scene a half hour ago as shuttle "atlantis" blasted off. it's loaded with parts for the international space station. look at that blue sky. nasa wants to stockpile as much equipment there as possible at the station before the shuttle fleets retire next year. the 11-day flight will keep the astronauts in orbit through thanksgiving. this is the last shuttle flight of the year. president obama is in beijing. he met with china's president hu jintao today. trade and economy issues were expected to dominate the talks. earlier president obama was in shanghai where he held a townhall style meeting with college students and said it's not predestine that had the u.s. and china be adversaries.
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he used the opportunity to address the issue of human rights. including how the freedom of speech and information can make a country and a leader stronger. >> in the united states information is free. and i have a lot of critics in the united states who can say all kinds of things about me. i actually think that makes our democracy stronger, and it makes me a better leader. it forces me to hear opinions that i don't want to hear. it forces me to examine what i'm doing on a day-to-basis to see am i really doing the very best that i could be doing for the people of the united states. >> president obama and president hu jintao will meet again tomorrow. a legal battle is heating up between the pentagon and aclu. photos that this appear to show americans abusing foreign detainees.
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a cleric told the "washington post" he did not order or pressure major nidal hasan to hurt americans. he said he could tell he was becoming uncomfortable in the u.s. military. hasan's killing spree is allowed underi under islam because it's a form of jihad. he's accused of shooting and killing 13 people at ft. hood. hasan is still hospitalized. defense secretary robert gates has blocked the release of any new photos that appear to show americans abusing foreign detainees. they say gates is using his new powers provided by a law signed last month. the aclu sued to have them released. but gates says the release would
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put u.s. citizens and service members in danger. so this is our "your views" question that day. richelle carey is highlights your comments. i've got some, too, richelle. they're all over the place. >> people keep coming. they really want to talk about this. we picked the right topic today. robert is an attorney calling us from florida. robert, i understand that you're not buying the argument that releasing these photos would put u.s. service members in danger. >> caller: not at all. as a matter of fact, they're already in danger. we've started two wars we had no business starting. we're still there after eight years. releasing the photos is not going to change anything one way or the other. i think the congress of the united states and the administration have done a disservice to the constitution of the united states by passing a law, which, by the way, is unconstitutional. it violates the protections that
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the aclu is trying to protect. >> did you think president obama was on the right track when he first said he was for transparency. >> caller: he was always on the right track. i think he's been given very bad advice. >> robert, thank you for kwoyou phone call. staci is calling from indiana. tell us your take on this. i understand you're a soldier. concern is releasing the picture puts peoples' lives in danger. but you say you don't think the public needs to know everything the military does to keep the country safe. >> caller: i'm a veteran. i've been home for eight months now. i'm not active soldier right now if you want to observe and pick at the military strategies i advise you to enlist in the military. transparency is an issue for
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certain policies. i.e., health care and tacks. transparency in the military equals disaster. i'm sorry. i'm just saying that if you have an experienced poker player, you don't see him showing his opponents all his cards. i don't feel like us in the u.s. military should neither. i understand the transparency issu issue. >> you think that we're better off not knowing about some things. it would be a benefit for the country. thank you. >> thank you for your phone call and your service. she is understandably passionate. she's been there. lots of comments on my facebook page as well. she said the abuse should not go
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unpunished but the pictures should not be released. today greg and clyde gave us their thoughts. >> as a member of the aclu i believe in the openness that should come forth with the revealing of the photos and the information out of all conflicts for the public to know. >> i don't think they should bother to release them. i think it would. >> we have to get a member of the aclu. who would have thought?
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>> i have a comment from chad who wrote to us. he says reality is some troops and administrators are there to just "shoot stuff" and be an authority figure. can you imagine what has been done that hasn't been caught on film. probably a question a lot of people ask themselves. >> interesting angle no one has brought up there. we're still talking about it. call us at 1-877-tell-hln. we've had attorneys call. we've had service members call. we found someone in the aclu. comments from all over the place.
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>> that's what it's all about. richelle, thank you. a well known figure in chicago. has been found dead. michael scott was the president of the city's board of education. where his body was found and what we know today.
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we have new video of michael jackson's personal physician. you see him there. dr. conrad murray. this is him heading into a las vegas court just a short while ago. the hearing wasn't directly related to the jackson a case. murray want adjudge to let him make minimum child support payments because he can't get work, apparently. the child's mother agreed to not force him to pay the $14,000 in back payments. murray is the focus of a homicide investigation by l.a. police. he reportedly told them he gave jackson a powerful drug before the singer died. we now know the body found in the chicago river this morning was michael scott, this man. he's the president of chicago's board of education. an autopsy and investigation
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under way right now. scott's death has been ruled a suicide. scott was found with a gunshot wound to the head. scott's car was found nearby and towed away. scott's rear in public service spans three decades. over the weekend the fbi used equipment such as ground penetrating radar at the house in cleveland where the remains of 11 women were found. they used orange paint to mark off several spots. that could indicate more digging at anthony sowell's house as well as next door. now the search has expanded about four houses down. one woman says her niece found something behind a boarded up house. >> they found bones about this long. they come running in the house, bringing them in the house with their bare hands, talking about look what we found. >> police haven't said if they found human bones behind the
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house. anthony sowell pleaded not guilty on friday for charges of allegedly trying to rape another woman who got away. that investigation led police to the bodies. a new arrest in the case of a missouri family accused of horrific sex crimes against children. 72-year-old mohler was brought into a courtroom on saturday and charged with two counts of forcible rape between kids ages 5 and 9. his bail is set at $40,000. his brother and four sons have been arrested in missouri. mohler says he's grown apparent from his relatives and has nothing to do with them. general motors reported a loss of 1.2 billion from july 10th, the day it came out of
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bankruptcy to september 30th. this is a bit of good news, however, because gm will start repaying government loans early, anticipating it will pay back $1 billion next month. since the end of 2008 we as fax payers have forked over $50 billion to help gm. it looks as though we're opening our wallets a little bit more. not just good news in a bad economy. it could certainly be a sign that the economy is recovering. retail sales rose more than expected in october. the government reports a 1.4% rise. nearly half a percent more than analysts had expected. homeowners in financial trouble can save their homes and their credit. acting fast is the key. hln money expert clark howard tells us how. >> i get a lot of questions from
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people wanting to know if they negotiate a deal with their mortgage lender, how is that going to affect their credit score and credit standing? well, the three major credit bureaus put out a report that says if you just negotiate a new payment plan with your lender that the effect on your credit score is actually very small. almost meaningless. what if you say i give up, and you negotiate a short sale? the effect on your credit score, getting up there. you lose over 100 points. let's say instead i give up, here are the keys and allow yourself to be foreclosed on. the effect is actually just a little worse than doing a short sale. if you really want to blow up your credit you file for bankruptcy. it will drop your credit score, you're not going to believe this, but over 300 points. it's better to stay and try to work something out. i'm clark howard. for more ways for you to be smart with your wall pet go to
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cnn.com/clarkhoward. >> get more great consumer advice from clark howard over saturday and sunday at noon and 4:00 p.m. eastern here on hln news and views. he helps you save more, spend less and avoid getting ripping off. a former child star with serious adults problems. danny bonaduce. we'll hear him explain why he keeps reaching for the bottle. y8
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a breaking story this afternoon from fayetteville, north carolina. the news no one wanted to hear in the search for a 5-year-old girl who has been missing for nearly a week. investigators believe they have nound little girl, shaniya
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davis' body. police were searching for her all morning after getting a tipped she was dumped along a central north carolina highway. investigators have charged shaniya's 25-year-old mother with human trafficking and felon child abuse. antoinette davis had a court hearing this afternoon. shaniya lived with her father until last month. he says he was hesitant to let her stay with her mother but felt she deserved an opportunity to be a part of shaniya's life. >> of course i had reserves. however, she had been trying. i know that she had been working for at least six months. she had been trying to get ore life back on track. she just recently got her own place. i was wanting to give her a chance. i felt she was sincere when asking to give her a chance. >> police in north carolina have filed kidnapping charges in the case against this man.
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29-year-old mario mcneill. he was captured on surveillance camera carrying shaniya into a hotel room. police say he admitted to taking the girl, but his attorney says he'll plead not guilty to the charge. a new arrest in the case of a missouri family accused of horrible sex crimes against children. 72-year-old darrel mohler was brought into a courtroom on saturday and charged with two counts of forcible rape against girls ages 5 and 9. mohler says he has no idea about the allegations. his bail was set at $40,000. mohler's brother and his four sons back in missouri are charges with crimes including bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old relative to have an abortion. mohler says he's grown apart from his relatives and has nothing to do with them. over the weekend the fbi used equipment like ground penetrating radar at the house in cleveland. they used orange paint to mark several spots off. that could indicate more digs
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this week at anthony sowell's house as well as next door. now the search has expanded four houses down as well. one woman says her niece found something behind a boarded up house. they found bones about this long. they come up in the house with their bare hands, talking about look what we found. >> police haven't said whether they found any human bones behind the house. anthony sowell's attorney has not commented about the murder charges his client faces. sowell pleaded not guilty on friday on charges of trying to rape another woman who got away. that's the investigation that led police to the bodies. federal officials are touring a western illinois prison right now. the facility may soon be used to house guantanamo bay detainees. officials from the department of justice, defense and homeland security. some republican lawmakers say the plan is too risky.
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some residents seemed supportive of the plan. they say it would give the local economy a boost. >> this is a small town. it's not like the terrorists want to do something to thompson. thomson is a great community, you know, farm town. i think it should help. >> i think of the positives with jobs and bringing more people into the community an using that facility to the fullest. it has been vacant and not used to its high potential. then again i think of the high security people. terrorists coming to the area. we have a new facility not too far away from here. i see both positive and negatives about that. >> democratic senator dick durbin of illinois is dismissing gop criticisms as political strategy and fear mongering.
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the decision to try five of the september 11 suspects at a civilian court in new york created a real heated debate in washington. and the arguments clearly divided among party lines. democrats are backing up the president's decision, saying the trial will show the world how effective and fair the u.s. judicial system is. republicans say it will give undeserved rights to people like khalid mouhammad. >> we're dealing here with beam who committed acts of war against us. they shouldn't be tried in the criminal justice system. they should be tried in the military justice system. it's absolutely inexcusable we're not using the system to try these people. that's why we have such a system. >> if somebody murders americans and they murder americans in america. they ought to be prosecuted in america and hopefully convicted in america. >> republicans say a civilian
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trial will also give the alleged terrorists the public platform that they want. brand new details on the alleged ft. hoot sheers. a cleric told the "washington post" he didn't order or pressure u.s. army major hasan to hurt americans. the cleric says he could tell from e-mails exchanged with hasan that he was becoming uncomfortable in the u.s. military. hasan's killing spree is allowed under islam because it's a form of jihad. he's accused of shooting and killing 13 people at ft. hood. he's still hospitalized, by the way. former governor sarah palin is busy promoting her new book. while people may be willing to pick up a copy, few are willing to make her commander in chief. deputy political analyst paul steinhauser has the numbers for us. they approve of her as an author. as president, maybe not so much.
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>> good way to put it. this is brand new poll from the cnn research. do you think sarah palin is qualified to be president? our poll suggests that only 28% say she's qualified. that's a troubling number if, if sarah palin does eventually decide to run for presidency. i. >> take a look at this, too, we compare it to other people. we ask other names if they're qualified to run for president. this is not a gender thing. you can see more than two out of three americans say hillary clinton, the secretary of state, is qualified to serve as president. more than the vice president himself with joe biden at 50%. mitt romney and huckabee, who people who may run against palin if she decide to run for the white house. >> let's get back to qualifications as an author. i know we've seen excerpts from
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"going rogue." >> we're going through the book. she's trying to set the record straight to tell her version of the story from last year's presidential campaign. she thinks she was treated badly or poorly by top mccain campaign officials and the media. they are pushing back about it. john mccain himself is taking the high road but a lot of officials are saying it's not true. so this ugly war of words we saw last year is definitely exploding again, christi. >> just when you think it's going to go away. no such luck. paul steinhauser, thank you so much. president obama says there's something he would like to see everyone in china have. what he told a group of students in shanghai today.
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today we have a positive constructive and comprehensive relationship that opens the door for partnership on the key global issues of our time. >> president obama is in china. his latest stop on an eight-day tour to asia. he said it's not predestined the u.s. and china be adversaries. he used the opportunity to address the issue of human rights which he says makes any nation stronger. >> we do not seek to impose any system of government on any other nation. but, we also don't believe that the principles we stand for our unique to our nation. these freedoms of expressions and worship of access to information and political
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participation, we believe are universal rights. >> today and tomorrow president obama's meeting with china's president hu jintao in beijing, trade and finance issues going to be the majority of the talk. and some saying the people trying to politicize this are way off base. president obama greeted the couple saturday during his visit to the imperial palace. a senior official says the president was observing appropriate protocol and his trip enhanced the position and status as a u.s. relative to japan. take a look at the scene at shuttle "atlantis" blasted off. there it goes. it's loaded with large spare parts for the space station. they want to stockpile as much as possible there before it's retired next year. it will include three space walks. this is the last shuttle flight
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of the year. defense secretary robert gates blocked the release of any new photos. the obama administration told the supreme court gates is using his new powers provided by a law signed last month. the aclu sued to have them released, those pictures. lower court supported that. but the release would put u.s. citizens and service members in danger. so we want your view on this. e-mail us at cnn.com/hln. text the word views and your name and comment to hlntv or go to our facebook pages. many unclaimed bod the is waiting to be buried are piling up in a county morgue in michigan. how one woman is helping people
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say good-bye to their loved ones.
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want to share this with you. court papers show the woman
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charged in the 2002 abduction of elizabeth smart will plead guilty tomorrow as part of a plea deal. the court papers, filed in salt lake city don't specify the terms of the agreement or which charge or charges wanda barzee will plead guilty to. smart was taken from her home at knife point in 2002 and found nine months later. also have some new video we want to share with you of michael jackson's personal physician dr. conrad murray. proceedings weren't directly related to the jackson case. murray want adjudge to let him make minimum child support payments because he can't get work. the child's mother agreed to not force him to pay $14,000 in back payments. he reportedly told them he gave
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jackson a powerful anesthetic before the singer died. we now know the body foun dead in the river this morning was michael scott. an autopsy and investigation are under way right now. the medical examiner's office tells the chicago tribune his death was rule ad suicide. he was found with a gunshot wound to the head. his car was found nearby and towed away. his family reported him missing yesterday. scott's rear in public service spans three decades. general motors is still struggling. the car maker reported a loss of $1.2 billion from july 10th to september 30th, the end of the third quarter. there is a bit of good news. gm will start repaying government loans early, anticipating that it will pay back $1 billion next month. since the end of 2008, we as taxpayers have forked out over $50 billion to help out gm.
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we're opening up our wallets a little more though. that may be key here. a key sign the economy is recovering. retail sales rose more than expected in october. the government reported a 1.4% rise thanks in part to strong demand for cars. nearly half a percent more than analysts expected. retail sales had fallen more than 2% the month before. even dead bodies at the morgue. last month we told you the county ran out of money for burying the unclaimed dead. now poppy harlow has a follow-up for us. >> paul c.l. mcgrath passed away at the age of 61. >> may he rest in peace.
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>> six people, buried in detroit. at a local funeral home. those who never knew them mourn them. >> no one is alone. we feel like islands but not one of is. a loss of someone three years ago is everybody's loss. >> in in a city of abandon houses, abandoned factories and abandoned people. a record number of unclaimed bodies pile up. next of kin unable or unwilling to pay for the burial. >> they were stacked up like my shoes in a closet. a former motown music executive was moved by our first story on the unclaimed dead in detroit. and decided to do something about it. her own family struggled to find the money to bury her father. >> a lot of things hit home for me. i immediately wanted to take
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action. >> reporter: and she did. she start ad nonprofit called may we rest in peace. she's raised thousands of dollars to bury these people. i thought, oh my god. we have to help restore some dignity to these families. >> for six families there is now dignity in death. their fathers, sisters, mothers and brothers laid to rest because of the kindness of strangers, making a difference in a town that could not on its own. the county had run out of funds to bury the unclaimed. >> my father buried, not cremated. so this is really something that's going to help me sleep at night, knowing that he received what he had actually asked for. >> wow. that makes me a little emotional right now. it's a good feeling. >> it's going to be something that we can always look back and think that somebody was there to help us when we needed it or,
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you know, help my father when he needed it. >> poppy harlow joins us from new york. those six families have closure. what about the rest of detroit's unclaimed dead? >> reporter: that's a great question. this is still a problem in the city. there are 52 of those unclaimed bodies still in the morgue. we'll see if the number goes up. some good news, though, along with this foundation is that the county, christi, now has their 2010 budget. they've got thousands of dollars to bury some of these bodies. i think to sum it up, as one of the people at that memorial service that you see right here said to me, he's a lifelong detroit resident. he says, you know what, they, meaning all of society, knows us, detroit, for our abandoned houses. we're not going to let them remember us for our abandoned people. it speaks volumes that one person can make a humge difference if they put your initiative into action. see the full story on
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cnnmoney.com. >> it's inspiring to see that kind of action. it's been a pretty good day on wall street. the dow shot up 150 points earlier today. right now it's up 122 points. analysts credit the signs of improvement in the retail sector as we sit at 10,393 right now. what story robin meade has been covering that stephen king thinks could be turned into a novel. 
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sad. just heartbreaking news from north carolina where police say they have found the body of shaniya davis. as the 5-year-old o's mother hes to court to face charges of
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child trafficking. federal authorities working to close gitmo are visiting a prison in illinois. the detainees could some day call it home. what the locals think of that idea. it's liftoff for the space shuttle "atlantis." what astronauts are bringing to the international space station. the latest from hln news and views on this monday. i'm richelle carey. let's get right into it. a couple breaking news stories. this just in to hln. court documents show the woman charged in the 2002 abduction of elizabeth smart will plead guilty tomorrow as part of a plea deal. the court papers which are filed in salt lake city don't specify the terms of the agreement or which charge or charges wanda barzee will be pleading guilty to. she and her estranged husband were indicted on federal kidnapping charges in 2008. you can see that video there of elizabeth smart. that was in 2003 she was taken from her home at knife point in 2002 and was found nine months later. a breaking story that we
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have been following from fayetteville, north carolina. the news no one wanted to hear. this is about the search for the 5-year-old who'd been missing for nearly a week. shaniya davis. investigators say they have found shaniya's body. >> the body was located of a small child a little while ago off of walker road. about 100 feet off of the road. at this time, a positive identification will be made by family. and as soon as we have that positive identification, we'll have more information. >> cops have been searching for her all morning. they got a tip that she had been dumped along a highway in central north carolina. investigators have charged shaniya's 25-year-old mother with human trafficking and felony child abuse. she had a court date this afternoon. shaniya actually had been living with her father until last month. he says that he was he was hesitant to let her stay with her mother but he felt on one
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hand she deserved an opportunity to be part of shaniya's life. >> of course, you know, i had some reserves. however, you know, she had been trying. and i know that she had been working for at least six months. and she had been trying to get her life back on track. and she said she had just recently got her own place. so i was wanting to give her a chance. she had asked if she could be a mother. and i felt that she was sincere in asking. and i figured to give her a chance. >> police in north carolina have also filed kidnapping charges in this case against 29-year-old mario mcneill. he was captured on surveillance camera last tuesday carrying shaniya into a hotel room 30 miles from her home. police say he admitted to taking her, but his attorney says he will not plead guilty to the charge. fayetteville police are expected to hold another press conference in about 30 minutes with the very latest. the decision to try five of the 9/11 suspects in a civilian court in new york has created a heated debate in washington.
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we've been talking about this for a few days now. the argument is clearly divided along party lines. democrats are backing up the president's decision. they say the trial will show the world how effective and fair the u.s. judicial system is. but republicans say it'll give undeserved rights to people like khalid shaikh mohammed, the alleged master mind behind september 11. >> we shouldn't close guantanamo for the purposes of these type of terrorists. basically we're dealing here with people who committed acts of war against us. they shouldn't be tried in our criminal justice system. they should be tried in our military justice system. and it's absolutely inexcusable we're not using the military justice system to try these people. that's why we have such a system. >> if somebody murders americans and they murder americans in america, they ought to be prosecuted in america and hopefully convicted in america. >> republicans say a civilian trial will also give the alleged terrorists the public platform they want. president obama is in beijing.
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he met with china's president, hu jintao, today. trade and economic issues were pretty much going to be the things they focused on. china has financed massive sums of u.s. debt. earlier president obama was in shanghai where he held a town hall style meeting with college students. he told them it is not predestined that the u.s. and china be adversaries. he also addressed the issue of human rights, including how freedom of speech and information can make a country and a leader stronger. >> in the united states information is free. and i have a lot of critics in the united states who can say all kinds of things about me. i actually think that that makes our democracy stronger, and it makes me a better leader. because it forces me to hear opinions that i don't want to hear. it forces me to examine what i'm doing on a day-to-day basis to see am i really doing the very best that i could be doing for the people of the united states. >> president obama and the
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president of china will meet again tomorrow. three, two, one, zero and liftoff of space shuttle "atlantis." >> and that never gets old. space shuttle "atlantis" blasted off this afternoon from kennedy space center. it's loaded with big spare parts for the international space station. nasa wants to stockpile as much equipment there as possible before the shuttle fleet is retired next year. this is an 11-day flight. it'll keep the astronauts in orbit through thanksgiving and include three space walks. this is nasa's last shuttle flight of the year. following this story for you. a brush fire just south of los angeles. specifically, in san juan cap stran know. live pictures for you here. about 60 fire fighters, 10 fire engines and 2 choppers are involved in this. about ten acres have burned so far. no structures are threatened right now. take a look at this mud slide in seattle.
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caused a lot of damage to that home. but the people who live there, they weren't hurt. that's a good thing. look at those pictures. the seattle area has been drenched by heavy rains. now there's concerns about flooding and mud slides like this. the storms may not be over yet. let's check in with chad myers. those folks were lucky, chad. it could have destroyed their house. >> absolutely. and it still could. because this rain isn't even close to stopping. we can get 5 or 6 more inches of rainfall as the next storm slides on through seattle through the coastal range. look at oak harbor. wind gusts of 30. a story i saw earlier, 42, down to about 35. that's the winds we're seeing. this is all the rain coming through the sound all the way toward everett and seattle. we will see snow here down to about 5,000 feet then a little bit lower as we get a little colder air in here. it's going to take a while to get that colder air in. most of this event is going to
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be rainfall. if you're traveling so far, seattle, the airport doing okay. although i think we should be seeing more airplanes in the air right now, although there aren't delays. there very well may just be a couple cancellations so those delays aren't showing up because the planes aren't trying to take off. so they're not late. wolf creek pass, 20 inches of snow over the past 48 hours. one last stop. it's a busy weather map today. all the way out to san juan and the virgin islands, flood warnings for san juan. very heavy rainfall through the virgin islands. not a great day to start your maybe sailing vacation in the british virgin island today. an indoor day for sure. >> absolutely. an indoor day in the islands, i think most people would take it. it was a busy weather day. that's why we needed to talk to you, chad. thank you. a legal battle is heating up between the pentagon and the aclu. and the issue is photos that appear to show americans abusing foreign detainees.
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should these pictures be released? your views, next.
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defense secretary robert gates has blocked the release of any new photos that appear to show americans abusing foreign detainees. the obama administration told the supreme court that gates is using his new powers provided by a law signed last month. the aclu sued to have them released, and lower courts did support that. but gates said the release would put u.s. citizens and service members in danger. >> i absolutely agree. this is way too -- >> this has been the "your views" question of the day. you've been calling, making your cases for which side you're on on this. lori is holding, calling from california. lori, i understand you feel very strongly that people that want these pictures released, i don't want to misquote you, but in some ways you think they are terrorist sympathizers.
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is that right? >> caller: yes, i do. >> make your case. >> caller: my son serves with the tenth mountain division of the u.s. army. he hunted these terrorists down in the worst of conditions. now we want to give them american rights? this is absurd. no. the army has to take a stand to get information out of these terrorists. and we have no business sticking our nose in what they have to do, first of all. >> so you think that in many cases the united states, the military, that they may do what they have to do, and that we don't always need to know what it is they're doing? >> caller: exactly. >> okay wp we have had other people that say the same thing you've said today, lori. thank you for your phone call and thank you for krour syour s service. nick is calling us from alaska. nick does not agree. nick, you feel very strongly about freedom of information. i guess under any circumstances, you stand by that? >> caller: yes, ma'am, i do. hello, everyone. >> hello. >> caller: i believe it's very
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important that the public see the alleged abuse pictures. it's called the freedom of information act. obama said today in china information in america is free. as an american citizen each is entitled to public information. we shouldn't have to debate this issue. it's supposed to be guaranteed. >> do you have any concerns? the other side says they're concerned this could put people's lives at risk. do you have that concern or do you think even if that is the case you still feel strongly in not bending on this? >> caller: i do think that there would be a problem with releasing them if there was, you know, crimes involved that shouldn't have been done. yeah, i agree that it would cause a problem. but we need to know that, too. that's another story. >> nick, thank you for your phone call. i appreciate it. all right. if you want to comment on this topic or any other topic, just search richelle carey hln and facebook to post your comments. here's some views we got from
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there. yvonne says they should stay private. no one needs to see them. all they were trying to do is protect us. that's similar to other comments we've had. black wrote this. we don't know if black is a man or woman. the troops wouldn't be in danger if you released the "fotos" ands punished the guilty. if we're americans we have the right to know what the american government is doing in our name. those are some of the comments we have been getting today. continue to tell us what you think about this. e-mail us at cnn.com/hln or text us by texting the word "views" plus your name and comment to hlntv. another kind of controversial topic as well from guantanamo to illinois. as the government task force tours a prison which may house terrorism suspects, illinois politicians ramp up their arguments for and against the controversial plan.
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federal officials are touring a western illinois prison right now. that prison may soon be used to
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house detainees from guantanamo bay. officials from the departments of justice, defense and homeland security are checking out the facility as we speak. some republicans lawmakers say this plan is just too risky. but some residents we talked to support moving the detainees there because they say it would give the local economy a boost. >> we've got this expensive building over there sitting empty, or practically. it would put some people to work. that's what they need here. >> we need jobs in our area. very depressed. both economically and emotionally. people are looking for these jobs. >> gitmo is not being closed. it's being moved. to northwest illinois. and the terrorism threats to gitmo and the people who become terrorists because of gitmo, that hatred and animosity will also transfer to northwest illinois. thereby making this area of the country and the entire country a
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magnet for terrorists. >> democrat senator -- u.s. senator dick durbin of illinois is dismissing the congressman's comments as political strategy and fearmongers. over the weekend the fbi used equipment like ground penetrating radar at the house in cleveland where the remains of 11 women were found. they also used orange paint to mark spots. that could indicate they'll go back to dig more this week. talking about anthony sowell's house. they may also be digging next door. now the search has expanded to four houses down. one woman says her niece found something behind a boarded up house. >> they found bones about this long. they come running in the house, bringing them in the house with their bare hands, look what we found. >> police haven't said whether they actually did find human bones behind that house. anthony sowell's attorney hasn't commented about the murder charges he's facing.
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he pleaded not guilty on friday to charges for allegedly trying to rape another woman who got away. that's the investigation that led police to all those bodies. michael jackson's personal doctor conrad murray was in court in las vegas this afternoon accused of owing more than $14,000 to a woman and her son. murray reached a deal that keeps him out of jail. his lawyer paid half the money on his behalf today. the child's mother agreed not to force him to pay the $14,000 in back payments. murray will now pay the woman about $1,000 a month. murray says he couldn't pay earlier because he had to close his medical practice after jackson's death. the contents of farrah fawcett's will have been leaked. and the actress left almost everything to her 24-year-old son, redmond, and nothing to long-time love, ryan o'neill. according to a copy obtained by radaronline.com the actress who passed away from cancer in june left $1.5 million to redmond.
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some other beneficiaries include a nephew, her father and a former boyfriend. the will was dated august 2007. but a court official says it has not been filed yet for probate. stock prices road today. and one of the nation's leading money men spoke out about the economic recovery. allison kosic is in new york with a look at the day in business. good to see you, allison. >> hi, richelle. good to see you as well. stocks rallied today on the heels of solid gains investors focused on the positive parts of fed chief ben bernanke's comments as he spoke today in new york. he said high unemployment and tight credit will make for a weak economic recovery but dismissed wor ris about another recession and says he's seen economic conditions improve over the past year and that continued growth is likely to happen into next year. the market saw signs of improvement as well. at the close the dow industrials rose 136 points to 10,406. the nasdaq composite gained 1.3%
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the s&p 500 rose almost 1.5%. also helping the gains a fresh report on retail sales. commerce department says sales jumped 1.4 from the month before. if you strip out car and truck sales, the number was up just slightly, indicating that consumers are still very cautious. retailers are hoping for big gains this month. many of them can make as much as half of their annual profits during the holiday shopping season. richelle, they're hoping people get out there and spend, spend, spend. >> that's exactly what they're hoping for. some people may be doing that spending with gift cards. the federal reserve is taking a swipe at gift card fees. it's proposing new rules to protect gift card users from unexpected costs to at least a year and extending gift card expirations to at least five year. the action is based on a law congress passed in may. these new rules will go into effect next august. before then the fed has opened feed back to the public and industry groups saying new rules
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could be revised before they're put in place. we're all feeling the pinch with the shaky economy. hln money expert clark howard is here to help. logon to cnn.com/clark. submit an i-report and you might be selected to be profiled on our network and get valuable advice from america's money coach. a guy in kx texas who wrecked his $1.7 million bugatti says a bird distracted him p the owner says he doesn't know if it can be salvaged. investigators in north carolina find the body of 5-year-old shaniya davis. we'll get the latest developments.
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we're just moments away from a news conference from police in fayetteville, north carolina. they searched and searched and searched for 5-year-old shaniya davis. she'd been missing for nearly a week. they announced this afternoon
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they believe they found shaniya's body. >> the body was located of a small child a little while ago off of walker road. about 100 feet off of the road. at this time, a positive identification will be made by family. and as soon as we have that positive identification, we'll have more information. >> cops searched all morning because they'd got a tip she had been dumped along a highway in scentral north carolina. investigators have charged shaniya's 25-year-old mother with human trafficking and felony child abuse. antoinette davis had a court appearance today. shaniya had been living with her father until just last month. he says he was hesitant to let her stay with her mother but he also felt she deserved an opportunity to be part of shaniya's life. >> of course, you know, i had some reserves. however, you know, she had been
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trying. i know that she had been working for at least six months. and she had been trying to get her life back on track. and she said she had just recently got her own place. so i was wanting to give her a chance. she had asked if she could be a mother. i felt that she was sincere in asking. and i figured to give her a chance. >> police in north carolina also filed kidnapping charges in this case against 29-year-old mario mcneill. he was captured on surveillance camera. there's shaniya. last tuesday carrying her into a hotel room 30 miles from her home. police say he admitted to taking her. but his attorney says he will plead not guilty to the charge. all the breaking news on this case tonight. watch "nancy brace" for late breaking developments on shaniya's death. that's 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln. again, we're also waiting for a news conference. this just in to hln. court papers show the woman charged in the 2002 abduction of elizabeth smart will plead
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guilty tomorrow as part of a plea deal. these papers were filed in salt lake city. they don't specify the terms of the agreement or which charge or charges wanda barzee is going to plead to. she and her estranged husband brian david mitchell were indicted on federal kidnapping charges in 2008. this is video of elizabeth smart from 2003 where she was taken from her salt lake city home at knife point and was found knife mon -- nine months later. a brush fire just about three miles east of san juan near the cleveland national forest. there's about 70 firefighters on this scene, 10 fire engines, a couple of choppers involved as well. ten acres have burned so far. no structures are threatened right now. let's hope it stays that way. federal officials toured a western illinois prison today that may be used to house guantanamo bay detainees. officials from the departments of justice, defense and holdland security, they all checked this facility out.
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some republican lawmakers say the idea to move guantanamo detainees there is too risky. but some people who live there, some of the ones we've talked to, they say this would be a good idea because it would give the local economy a boost. actually, right now we're going to go to -- we're going to go to north carolina now for the press conference on shaniya davis? >> are we ready? >> okay. now we're ready. >> are we ready? testing. okay. hi, again, everybody. this is just another briefing regarding the body that was discovered this afternoon out off of walker road. there is no new information at this time regarding the positive information of that body. we are currently waiting for the fbi to come out to the scene to help exhume the body for evidence and other information. again, we do not have a positive identification on that body as of yet. we can only say that we did discover one off of walker road.
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[ inaudible question ] >> right now that's too early to tell. we're really early in the investigation. [ inaudible question ] >> i hate to make any assumptions. again, we're going to wait until we exhume that body, get it to the medical examiner's office, get a positive identification on it. then we'll go forward from there. >> what can you tell us about where the body was located? was it hidden in the leaves? a shallow grave? >> i can't speak to the condition. [ inaudible question ] >> no. that's still unknown at this time. [ inaudible question ] >> that's exactly what i was going to clarify from earlier. it just depends. it depends on the circumstances surrounding the death. it depends on a lot of different circumstances as far as this investigation. if that body is even shaniya
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davis. so, again, right now i can't answer that. [ inaudible question ] >> right. that's correct. [ inaudible question ] >> i can only speak at this time to that. it seems to be a child. so that's all i can say at this point. [ inaudible question ] >> not that i can speak to at this time. again, i don't have a lot of information as far as the body. and any kind of identification information. again, the detectives are out there. they're out there with our command staff. and they're just trying to get that body exhumed so they can get a positive identification. >> you've been listening to an update from the police department in fayetteville, north carolina, in a case involving shaniya davis. they seem to want to really make it clear that they don't have a positive id yet. the body that may be shaniya's, it is a child's body.
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she was pretty clear on that. is still actually at the scene where they found this body in lee county. about 100 feet off of a road. someone disposed of a child's body on the side of a road. and they say they've called in the fbi to take a look at the scene before they move the body. then they will have a positive id. but all signs do point to this being shaniya davis because they actually began the search here because they say a tip came in that shaniya had been dump there had. she's been missing for a week now. the decision to try five of the september 11 septembers in a civilian court in new york has created a heated debate in washington. the argument is pretty much along party lines. democrats are backing up the president's decision. they say the trial will show the world how effective and fair the u.s. judicial system is. others say it will give people like khalid shaikh mohammed, the alleged master mind behind 9/11. >> basically we're dealing here with people who've committed acts of war against us.
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they shouldn't be tried in our criminal justice system. they should be tried in our military justice system. and it's absolutely inexcusable we're not using the military justice system to try these people. that's why we have such a system. >> if somebody murders americans and they murder americans in america, they ought to be prosecuted in america and hopefully convicted in america. >> republicans also say that a civilian trial will give the alleged terrorists the public platform they want. there has been a new arrest in the case of that missouri family accused of horrible sex crimes against children. 72-year-old darrel mohler was brought into a courtroom. he says he has no idea about the allegations. his bail has been set at $40,000. his brother and four sons back in missouri are charged with horrific, unthinkable crimes including bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old relative to have
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an abortion. mohler says he's grown apart from his relatives and has nothing to do with them. the legal battle is heating up at the pentagon -- rather between the pentagon and aclu. the issue is photos that appear to show americans abusing foreign detainees. so should they be released? "your views" next.
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michael jackson's personal doctor, conrad murray, was in a court in las vegas this afternoon accused of owing more than $14,000 to a woman and her son. murray reached a deal. this deal will keep him out of jail. his lawyer actually paid half the money on his behalf today. the child's mother agreed to not
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force him to pay the $14,000 in back payments. murray will now pay the woman $1,000 a month. hurry says he couldn't pay earlier because he had to close his medical practice after michael jackson's death. the contents of farrah fawcetts will have been leaked. the actress left almost everything to her 24-year-old son redmond and nothing to long-time love ryan o'neal. according to to a copy obtained by radaronline.com the ak dress left $4.5 million to redmond. other beneficiaries include her nephew, father and a former boyfriend. the will was dated august of 2007. defense secretary robert gates has blocked the release of any new photos that appear to show americans abusing foreign detainees. the obama administration told the supreme court gates is using his new powers provided by a law signed last month. the aclu sued to have them released. the lower court supported that. in particular there is about 44 pictures this is about.
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gates said the release would put u.s. citizens and service members in danger. you've been comments, debating, discussing this topic all day, whether or not you think those pictures should be released. rachel and clyde gave us their comments to our views cam. >> my opinion is that, yes, it should be released. i think the people have a right to know what is going on. >> i don't think they should bother to release them. i think it would affect the security of this -- of this united states. >> okay. got an e-mail from dena we want to share with you as well. dena says the aclu may think it is our right to view these photos. but it gives those terrorists who are not in prison just one more reason to target our military and our country. our country should be taking all necessary steps to protect our citizens' rights and ensure their safety before all others.
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a comment from my facebook page. ros lynn wrote this. i, too, feel releasing these photos could be debtmental to troops' safety abroad. perhaps if we did release them we could show transparency and how we're a country on the up and up on human rights and is even when we're interrogating our possible enemies. she sees both sides. thank you for your comments on this very important topic today. space shuttle "atlantis" is now streaking toward the international space station. that's what it looked like just a few seconds after it got ready to launch. look at that. the crew is headed -- we'll tell you where the crew is headed and what they plan to do when they get there.
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"prime news" is coming up in a few minutes. let's get right to mike galanos. he's trying to move forward with the story that is really affected a lot of you. they found a body of a young girl. they are pretty sure it's shaniya, but they're still holding off until they get official confirmation. they think they found shaniya davis. people are outraged and heartbroken. >> so sad. especially when we're looking at
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the unthinkable allegations against her mom of giving shaniya up for prostitution. sexual servitude. basically to be a sex slave. and i know that like me, it's how can a mom do that? those are allegations. nothing proven yet. that's where we are with this story. it just breaks my heart when you see the picture of her holding on to the guy charged with the kidnapping. mario mcneill. they're about ready to talk into the hotel. this little 5-year-old, sleepy eyed, holding on to him. a trusting 5-year-old. now we're at this place. call in. 1-877-tell-hln. also updating you on this story. the headline gets you. someone changing lines at walmart. that happened three years ago. now we're at the place where this person, heather ellis, could be facing 15 years in prison for what happened after that. >> right. >> because you and i were just talki ining about this story. after she changes lines we have two completely different stories as to what happened. she says that she was harassed by store employees, that it
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became racial. racial slurs thrown at her. she's not backing down. that's why she didn't settle. there are police accounts and witness accounts that say she was belligerent and she attacked cops. we'll pick it up from there. take your calls. 1-877-hln. sarah pail within a big interview with oprah winfrey. >> they're not watching it now. they're watching us. you're recording it on your dvr right now. >> after you watch it, does it change your mind about former governor palin or not? we're hearing different things. so far i'm haefri inhearing pre that she's doing well with oprah. gives her a chance to exhale and be herself for lack of a better term, with oprah. give us your thoughts. call, e-mail or text us at hlntv. coling yoe i coming your way in 12 minutes. >> oprah's people know how to get your attention. those clips were amazing.
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three, two, one, zero, and liftoff of space shuttle "atlantis." >> isn't that fantastic to watch? the space shuttle "atlantis" blasted off this afternoon from the kennedy space center all loaded up with big spare parts for the international space station. nasa wants to stockpile as much equipment there as possible before the shuttle fleet is retired next year. this 11-day flight will keep the astronauts in orbit through thanksgiving, include three space walks as well. this is nasa's last shuttle flight of the year. this brush fire we've been keeping an eye on near the cleveland national forest. this is southern california. now there's more firefighters on the scene. about 80. aircraft involved as well. there's at least ten acres that have burned so far. doesn't appear that there's any structures right thousannow. authorities tell our affiliate they think the fire may have been started by a tractor that crashed into a power pole. let's hope they can keep this thing contained.
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intense winds of up to 60 miles per hour ripped through parts of western washington state this morning. the blast part of a storm which triggered black outs, took trees down and caused mud slides like that right there. two cars are buried under the slide which also took out the garage. two people who live there are fine. forecast calls for continued strong winds and a flash flood has been issued for parts of the river west of seattle. a guy in texas who wrecked his $1.7 million bugatti says a bird distracted him. but what's even more amazing was a couple of guys driving down the highway happened to catch the trash as it happened. the highway happened to catch the crash as it happened. >> that will be mine one day. >> what is it? >> pretty sure it is a lambo, dude. oh, he wrecked.
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oh, [ bleep ]. >> they could be saying that for a couple of reasons. maybe they thought someone was hurt and they saw a car they clearly like. the bugatti goes 250 miles per hour, has 100 horsepower. the owner says he doesn't know if it can be salvaged. look at that. you think you commune with a higher power through your computer? people of all faiths are worshipping online. one of the most popular stories on christian.com. some christians believe true spiritual connection requires you to use all your senses, pastors say theirs are just as real as those happening at the neighborhood church. the pastor of lifechurch.tv
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talked about it. >> people can connect in a very spiritual and real way with an online church. instead of trying to get people to come to a church we can take a church to them. >> the cnn.com article comes from staff on hln. would you stand in line, sleep on the street for a movie? find out what all these people are so anxious to see. 
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