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tv   Senator Mc Cain on Health Care and Bipartisanship  CSPAN  July 25, 2017 8:02pm-8:20pm EDT

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r >> wednesday morning,aul -- >> wednesdayorning,aul ruiz american --out the the affordable care act. , steve russell will join us to talk about key issues facing congress, including the future of health care and federal spending and his opposition to act traffic control be sure to wah c-span a 7:00 a.m.. join the conversation. vice president pence presided slide --te with a 50 50-50 time. has struggled mightily to get to this point and there's
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no grantee they will win final passage of a bill changing obamacare. a sign of how the situation toas, senator john mccain to the floor and declared "i will not vote for the bill as it is today. it is a shell of able right now." we will hear more from kelsey snell in a moment. but now, we will look at john mccain on the senate floor. [applause]
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the vice president: the senior senator from arizona is recognized. the senior senator from arizona is recognized. addressed this president, many esiding officers. i've been so addressed what i've senate that chair. that's as close as i'll ever to be a presidency. anyway, it's an honor we're almost indifferent to, isn't it? presiding over the senate can be a nuisance, a bit of ceremonial bore. it is usually relegated to the more junior members. but i stand here today looking a
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little worse for the wear, i am aure. i have an appreciation for the protocols and customs of thi body and for the other 99 privileged souls who have been elected to this senate. i have been a member of the united states senate for the 39 years. i had another long, if not as long, career before i arrived here, another profession that was profoundly rewaterboarding and which i had experiences and friendships that i revere. but make no mistake, my service here is the most important job i've had in my life. i'm so grateful -- s grateful to the people of arizona for the privilege, for the honor of serving here and the opportunities it gives me to play a small role in the history of the country that i love. i've known and admired men and women in the senate who played much me than a small role in our history, true statesmen, giants of american politics that
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come from both parties and from various backgrounds. their ambitions were frequently in conflict. they held different views on the issues of the day, and they often had vy serious disagreementdisagreementsdisagro serve the national interest. but they kw that however sharp and heartfelt their disputes, however keen their ambitions, they hadn obligation to work collaboratively to ensure the senate discharged its constitutial respoibilities effectively. our responsibilities are important, vitally importa to the continued success of our republic. our arcane rules and customs are deliberately intended to require broad cooperation to function well at all. the most rered members of this institution accepted the necessity of compromise in order to make incremental progress on solving america's problems and
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defend her from her adversaries. that principle mind-set and the service of our predecessors who possessed it come to mind when i hear the senate referred to as the world's greatest deliberative body. i'm not sure we can claim that distinction with a straight face today. i'm sure it wasn't always deseed in previous eras either, but i'm sure there have been times when it was, and i was privileged to witness some of those occasions. our deliberations today -- not just our debates but the exercise of all of our responsibilities -- authorizing govement policies, appropriating the funds to implement them, exercising our advice and consent role, are often lively and interesting. they cane sincere in principle, but they're more paisan, more tribal, more of the time than at any time than i
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can remember. our deliberations can still be important and useful. but i think we'd all agree, they haven't been overburdened by greatness lately. like now, they aren't producing much for the american people. both sides have let this happen. let's leave the history of who shot first to the historians. i suspect they'll find we all conspired in our decline, either by diberate actions or neglect. we've all played some role in it. certainly i have. sometimes i've let my passion rule my reason. sometimes i made it harder to find common ground because of something harsh i said to a colleague. metimes i've wanted to win more for the sake of winning than to achieve a contested policy. incremental progress, compromises that each side criticized but also accept, just plain muddling throu to chip away at problems and keep our enemies from doing their worst
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isn't glamorous or exciting. it doesn't feel like a political triumph. but it's usually the most we can expect from our system of government, operating in a country as diverse and quarrelsome and free as ours. considering the injustice and cruelties inflicted by autocratic governments and how corruptible human nature can be, the problem-solving our system does make pork the fitful frog produces and the liberty and justice it preserves is a magnificent achievement. our system doe't depend on our nobility. it accounts for our imperfections and gives us an order to our individual strivings that haselped make ours the most powerful and prosperous society original. it is our responsibility to preserve that, even when it requires us to do something less satisfying than winning, even
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when we must give a little to get a little, even when our efforts managed just three yards in a cloud of dust aallow critics on both sides to announce us for our failure to triumph. i hope we can again relyn humility on our need to cooperate, on our dependence on each other, learn how to trust each other ain and by so doing better serve the people who elected us. stop listening to the bombastic loud mouths on the radio, television and internet. to hell with them. they don't want anything done for the public good. our incapacity is their livelihood. let's trust each other. let's return to regular order. we've been spinning our wheels on t many important issues because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle. that's an approach that's been
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employed by both sides, mandating legislation from the top down without any support from the other side, with all the parliamentary maneuvers that requires. we're getting nothing done, my friends. we're getting nothing done. all we've really done this year is confirm neil gorsuch to the supreme court. our health care insurance system is a mess. we all know it. those who sport obamacare and those who oppose it. something has to be done. we republicans have locked for a way to end -- have looked for a way to end it and replace it with something else without paying a terrible polital price. we haven't found it yet and i'm not sure we will. all we've managed to do is make more popular a picy that wasn't very popular when we started trying toet rid of it. i votedor the motion to proceed to allow debate to continue and amendments to be offered. i will not vote for this bill as it is today. it's a shell of a bill right
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now. well know that. i have changes urged by my state governor that will have to be included for my support of final passage of any bill. i know many of you will have to see the bill change ?anl forou to -- substantially for you to support it. we try to do this by coming up with a proposal behin closed doors in consultation with the administration, then springing it on skeptical members, trying to convince them that it's better than nothing. that it's better than nothing? asking uso swallow our doubts and force it passed a unified opposition. i don't think that's going to work in the end, and probably shouldn't. thedministration and congressional democrats shouldn't have forced through congress without any opposition or support a social economic change as massive as obamacare. and we shouldn't do the same with ours. why don't we try the old way of
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legislating in the senate? the way our rules and customs encourages us to act. if this pross ends in failure, which seems likely, then let's return to regular order. let the health, education, labor d pensions committee under chairman alexander and ranking member murray hold hearings, try to report a bill out of committee with contributions from both sides. something that my dear friends on the other side of the aisle didn't allow to happe years ago. let's see if we can pass something that will be imperft, fl of compromises
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and not very pleasing to implacable promises on the other side but that might provide workle solutions americans are struggling with today. what have we t le b trying to work together to find those solutions? we're not getting done much apart. i don't think any of us feels ry proud of our incapacity. merely preventing your political opponents from doing what they want isn't the mos inspiring work. there's greater satisfaction in respecting our differences but not letting them prevent agreements that don't require abandonment of core principles, agreements made in good faith, that help improve lives and protect the american people. the senate is capable of that. we know that. we've seen it before. i've seen it happen many times, and the times when i was involved even in a modest way with working on a bipartin response to a national problem or threat are the proudest momes of my career, and by
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far the most satisfying. this place is important. the work we do ismportant. our strange rules and seemingly he can century practices that -- eccentric practices that slow our proceedings are important. the founders envisioned the senate as the more deliberative careful body tt operates at a greater distance from the public body from the passions of the hour. we are a check on the powers of the executive. our consent is necessary for the president to appointurist and powerful government officials and in many respect to conduct foreigner policy. whether or not we are of the same party, we are not the president's subordinates. we are his equal. as his responsibilies -- as his responsibilities are onerous, many in powerful, so are ours. we play a vital role in shaping
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and directing the military and the cabinet in forming domestic policies, our success in meeting all these awesome constitutional obligations depes upon cooperation among ourselves. the success of the senate is important to the continued success of america. this country, this big, boisterous, sprawling, con temperate, daring, beautiful, bountiful, brave, good and magnificent country needs us to help it thrive. that responsibility is more important than any of our personal interests or political affiliatn. we are the servants of a great nation, a nation conceived in liberty and dedicatedo the top position that a men are created equal. more people are free, have lived free and psperous lives here than in any other nation. we've acquired unpredented wealth and power because of our
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gorning principles and because our government defended those principles. america has made a greater contribution than any other nation to an international order that has liberated more people from tyranny and poverty than ever before in history. we have been the greatest example, thereatest supporter and the greatest defender of that order. we aren't afraid. we don't covet other people's land a wealth. we don't hide behind walls. we bridge them. we are a blessing to humanity. at greater cause could we hope to serve than helping keep america the strong, inspiring, inspirational beacon of liberty and defender of dignity of all human beings and their right to freedom and equal justice? that is the cause that binds us, and is so much more powerful and worthy than the smal differences that divide
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us. what at great honor and extraordinary opportuty it is to serve in this body. it's a privilege to serve with all of you. i mean it. many of you have reached out in the last few days with your concer and your prayers, and it means a lot to me. it really does. i've had so many people say such nice things about me recently that i think some of you must ve me confused with someone else. i appreciate it, though, every word of it, even if much of it isn't deserved. i'll be here for a few days. i hope managing the floor debate on the defense authorization bill which i proud to say is again a product of bipartisan cooperation and trust among the members of the senate armed services committee. after that, i'm going home for awhile to treat my illness. i have every intention of returning here and giving many of you cause to regret all the
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nice things you said about me. and i hope to impress upon you agn that it is an honor to serve the american people in your company. thank you, fellow senators. mr. president, i yield the floor. >> now for a look at the vote to begin debate on the health -- the health care law thou.

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