tv Washington Journal Sarah Ferris CSPAN February 9, 2018 3:35pm-4:04pm EST
>> new york times staff photographer doug mills talks about the photos he took while covering president trump. >> he enjoys having this around. -- having us around. constant comments about fake news and the media. he enjoys having this around because it drives his message, the news of the day, which he can do and does every day. having us around really allows him to do that. sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span. we took a look at the best refraction by the house -- 24 hour action by senate leaders. from today's washington journal, this is about half an hour. >> sarah faris at our table
covering budget and appropriations for politico on capitol hill until early this morning. what was the mood in the senate if you are watching rand paul continuously object to republican leadership trying to move forward with this stopgap bill and to your been expelled? >> this has been sleep deprived. you had senators who did not want to be there. they were blaming rand paul for this. take a stand, he didn't care about the consequences. he wanted to make sure that this package didn't get through without a fight. he certainly brought that fight. --was on the floor for about from about 1:00 p.m. until 1:00 a.m. when his time ran out, they got moving very quickly. it was a quick pace at the
senate they had it all within a couple of minutes. the senators were ready to get out of there. >> it went over to the house and passed over there. you had democrats objecting in both chambers. they had the number to pass this. what happens now? >> we finally have the top line spending levels that everyone had been asking for for nearly one year now. appropriators can get to work and start writing the trillion dollar bill that will send the government -- fund the government. the bill that was just past is not a full year spending bill. this is the budget deal that has been needed to get past so they can start to write the full year spending bill. there are a lot of important policy items in it, that is why rand paul took his stand. he doesn't want to forget there is a massive debt ceiling increase. we don't even know how much that would ultimately cost.
there is also programs that are reauthorized, children's health insurance program, community health centers, there are tax extenders built on the medicare side. on the energy side, these are million dollar packages -- billion-dollar packages. package,on disaster the largest stand-alone bill for disaster congress has ever passed. this is the biggest festival package -- fiscal package since 2009. we have a majority of republicans in the house and senate under president trump. >> will the two sides come together? one caller said they are going to wait until the last minute. will they be able to come together quickly and passed this omnibus bill? >> i think they will wait until the last minute. it takes a while to write these bills. you have had appropriations
committees in charge of 12 separate bills. they have not been able to make much progress without knowing how much congress can spend this year. this is an abnormal year. the house passed its own bill on the floor at a number they essentially decided. this was not something confirmed into law. the numbers we now see, 300 billion above the sequester. now appropriate or get to work and say we have this much more money. they say it's easier to add money then subtract money. they think it will be a faster process that it may have otherwise been if they had had to deal with sequester cuts. they are going to need this full six-week period to get to work on the large spending bills, about $1 trillion omnibus. >> the president's budget is expected. what will it look like? >> it comes out monday.
there are no plans to delay this. it will be coming out on monday. it will be a massive document that capitol hill is not looking forward to. that this isold me something they know will be important to show trump's priorities, but they know what he wants to do. he has been talking regularly with lawmakers. he doesn't need a giant budget document to tell him he wants to achieve infrastructure or massive boost to the pentagon budget. the numbers in this document will not be as important as writing budgets on capitol hill. congress just passed this, with little regard to what the white house will put out. >> will the president's budget be drastically different than what they agreed to? what wasl be because agreed to was a record level of domestic funding increase. -- the white house put out
a statement in forcing this deal because of the huge increases to the military spending, which president trump has been asking for for more than a year. the white house endorses the deal, but the domestic spending was higher than deemed necessary. this is something the white house has made clear that he doesn't think the departments like the labor department, education department, it doesn't think it needs as much money as it got. the reason is because it was a key reason with democratic leaders, that's why they agreed to back this bill. that's where they agree to support a $700 billion military budget next year. >> will he sign any omnibus bill that gets passed the four march 23? >> he indicated he would. a lot could happen in the next six weeks. we didn't see that much about the border wall, border security as part of this budget deal and short-term spending bill. i think because immigration will be taking hold on capitol hill
starting next week. leader mcconnell said it in the hours of this morning. we are going to see next week consumed in the immigration debate. we could see president trump bringing up the border bill after that. >> 67 republicans in the house voted no. 16 republicans in the senate voted no last night. who are they, are they likely to vote no again on the trillion dollar omnibus bill? >> a lot of republicans who voted against it don't vote anyways. in the senate, we had a large amount of budget hawks, a lot of members who have been the ones trying to get mandatory spending , discretionary spending under control. thehe house, you have conservatives you would expect to oppose it. the house freedom caucus took a position against it. the republican senate committee,
a larger, more diverse group did not take a formal position. a lot of members still opposed it. they do not require their 170 members to oppose it. this is something new conservatives were going to at the same time it is hard for them to refuse the military increases. they are hearings on almost a daily basis from jim mattis that this is something the military will not be able to be in the readiness preparation that president trump has been talking about for one year. in the earlyned answers of washington, around 2:00 a.m. eastern time it was voted to move forward on a continued resolution to keep the government open. it closed at midnight. house then scrambled around 5:30 a.m. eastern time, they voted 242 186.
>> good morning. what you just said about social security being the biggest means of the debt, that congress has taken social security money rather than leaving it in the bank and gather interest so they can pay people like me who are retired. they are spending it. rather than pay it back, they want to cut social security so moneyon't have to the they owe social security. they don't want to pay it back. that's why they want to cut social security. >> let's pick up this entitlement reform question. if they have a budget year deal in place, one of the reports said they can't pass it. they decided not to pass it.
that they can do entitlement reform. >> it is important to clarify. the budget deal that was passed was a bipartisan setting up for spending bills. the white house proposal and republican budgets wouldn't actually have any effect except for setting up for the special budget tool that would allow for entitlement reform to go through without the filibuster, also how we saw the tax bill passed, and the attempt to repeal obama care. it is whether republicans will pass their joint resolution to do title reform in 2018. from what i have heard, the answer is no, which is something democrats say is a relief. they were concerned about potential cuts to medicaid, perhaps medicare, food stamps, social security and medicare were not on the table. is not looking to cut from beneficiaries. there are some ways republicans provide, oroking to
cap, or other kinds of reforms to medicare and social security. it is difficult to do. it would require a separate bill, something like a reconciliation bill. you can't just do this in the appropriations process. that's what republicans are concerned about. they can't actually tackle this growing share of mandatory spending through the already difficult appropriations process. host: glenn in alexander, virginia. -- clinton: thank you caller: thank you. i am curious about something i heard about nascar being mentioned in this bill. that nascar is mentioned in a bill on capitol hill having to do with the shutdown. it isalso ironic that located in kentucky, where rand paul and mcconnell are located.
i would like your comments. maybe somebody can help me with what is going on in this bill that the average person will never know about. sarah: that would be something that would not be surprising. there are a lot of things that even senators and members of congress have not had a chance to read. it is a 650 page bill, we got it at a: 50 5 p.m. on wednesday -- 11:55 p.m. on wednesday. they haven't had the time and bandwidth to do that, which is why we saw senator rand paul try and hold up the process. he wanted to hold up and show what else was in there. tax combined several extenders, tax breaks that had expired and were not included in either the 2015 package or the tax bill we saw in that summer -- in december. there was horse racing, tax credits,for wind
running the gamut of everything that didn't get included last time. to piece of part this bill if you are not looking precisely for what -- if you're not looking for something you wanted in there. host: that would be the next homework assignment for you and other reporters to did through dig through-- to it. caller: the point i would like to make is how inefficient this is for our country. not only is it difficult to plan existing projects going on, but with furloughing employees, people who travel working on projects have to return home and not complete the work. to complete the work, they have to travel again to work on projects. it is a complete waste of money
to for low, -- to furlough, stop projects, and how to plan for them. uncertainty is something members of congress have been complaining about for the past five times they voted for the short-term spending bill. this is the fifth continuing resolution. we have to wait another six weeks to have legislation get this through september 30. we have heard the most from military leaders, secretary to republicane retreat. he has gone to the briefing room, he has talked with members and leadership saying that there are departments that cannot start new projects. they are essentially ground to a halt, training programs unless they get full year spending bill. the repeating cycle of resolutions is damaging to the military.
that is something republicans have hammered for the last several months. that's why it was so difficult to pass a spending bill that has made it easier by the fact that the military budget will now be $700 billion for 2018 and 2019. it's something that was the main reason republicans voted for this package. host: they testified and we covered that hearings if you want to listen to more of what he had to say. forarguments he laid out not operating under continuing resolution giving the pentagon stable funding. chuck schumer cut this deal with the majority, he praised general mattis and his role in this. have: democratic leaders never not wanted to fund the military. the argument they have been making sense the start of sequestration when republicans
and democrats saw domestic and defense funding on the chopping block and being forced to stave off these funding cuts every two years. democrats have said we want boosts for the military, a stronger national defense, we suchwant domestic funding as the education department, the health apartment, having these larger increases under sequestration. both domestic and defense have seen cuts all the time. it seems like we will have a reversal. these increases were far higher than the 2011 and 2013 budget deal. we are going to see both sides of those which will be huge debates -- which have been huge debates. host: let's go to tammy. caller: good morning. an observation.
we are about 45 minutes before the government is due to open. trump has this bill on his desk and hasn't signed it. it is being reported he hasn't signed it because he is waiting for fox and friends to get over. it on cnn. sarah: there is some flexibility for federal workers to avoid being furloughed even if the bill hasn't been signed. several workers can spend four hours at work preparing for a shutdown if they are under shutdown protocol. there is flexibility so federal workers can come in. host: charles in tennessee, independent. don't have a question for your guest, even though she is knowledgeable. i have a comment. think most of the congressmen
and senators are egomaniacs, they feather in their own nest. the government is not supposed to do certain things, it's not supposed to be a profession. thank you. glenn, republican. >> i am doing good this morning. here's this question. we should add up the money put out in quantitative easing and that into the military and pay back social security with it. can you give us a number on how much money under the obama administration was putting quantitative easing through the federal reserve bank to prop up the stock market and fluctuate prices for stocks and bonds?
how much money was made by other than foreigners, other than citizens? you can put it into the military, american citizens, and you can put it into social security to pay back american citizens. that money that wasn't appropriated by congress -- -- senatoru think rand paul was making the argument. why are republicans not ok with deficit under present obama, but they are ok with deficits as long as there is a republican in the white house. caller: the same question could be to the democrats. why was $10 trillion spent under obama with the democrats and they are ok with that, and we don't mention that. on much money has been spent foreign-born innovators in the
united states by democrats and republicans? how much money was spent on iran when $499 million who okayed that? host: stephanie in highland, california. democrat. > caller: i want to say rand pal doesn't have any standing to make comments or complaints about the budget exploding. didn't he vote for the tax bill? the next thing i wanted to say was it is scary because they are ballooning the deficit. with the tax bill and the budget deal, what are we talking about? $3 trillion added on to the deficit? does any of that contain infrastructure spending? there is not too much infrastructure spending included there. there is about $20 million set aside for the next two years
that appropriators get to decide where that goes. is approaching at least $2 trillion taking out the tax cuts , the cost of this bill is about $320 billion. that includes the tax extenders, disaster relief. there are many who have been on capitol hill for a while that's a this is two years of raising the sequester, pushing off the spending cuts again. that,gress does not do the costs are more than $320 billion over one decade. it would be higher because the spending increases that were just approved would continue. it is very hard for congress to go back and allow for spending cuts after raising for both the military and domestic programs. host: after 2019, do they have to pass a another long-term budget deal?
if they don't, does it go back to 2011 sequestration levels? sarah: that is right. they have this sequestration effort. we have to watch one more budget deal that is two years long. hard deals some very cut. that is why former speaker john boehner did not, he faced an internal vote. speaker ryan was able to avoid that with president trump. it is always easier when you have someone in your own party in the white house. there are very difficult decisions to come. with $700 billion for the military, and large increases or domestic, it will be hard to reverse the cuts and not see those costs add up over the next several years. host: matt, a republican. caller: good morning, i hope
you're having a good day. earlierthe host speaker that there are $4 billion for the v.a. to help rebuild v.a. hospitals. the a client of the va hospital, a new coat of paint want to fix the problem. the problem is they don't have enough personnel. i use the v.a. and the private system, i have spoken to people in the private system that would have been willing to work at the v.a., but they don't pay what the private system does. basic thingse, the is primary care teams. then, it expands to the specialists. years, i'm using the
v.a., the money goes to a new paint job every 30 years. we had five primary care teams, that got cut to 4. now the 4 are it is hard for them to even hire a specialist. host: the washington times says 4 billion to rebut as hospital, but that doesn't mean it is at four the veterans affairs department and will have to wait and see what that appropriators for the veterans affairs department and what the spending levels are at. correct? been: democrats have championing this and saying not only is it important to have va butoney going to b
across the health care spectrum including mental health care. arecrats have said they going to try to make sure the entire budget goes up, and again we don't know what the breakdown is going to be because we have topline spending levels, but is a significant increase in the domestic program levels and you can expect pretty big increases in the department here. democrat, good morning. i am hearing about the -- since i was a kid, i am disabled, and i have had two strokes and two heart attacks, three back surgeries, and i am disabled. an ssi check
which is six dollars a month, and they don't cover her medicine bill, and they say that is all she got, but there's so much money wasted, and the guy about the va is right, i am a veteran myself and i know how -- it is both sides. about, why don't we hear upper-class or middle-class but nobody mentions the bottom class? host: besides this budget deal that was approved there had been a side conversation about what theo with the dreamers, the democrats appeared that they don't want to agree to
that, what is it going to be, the last big mitch mcconnell did on the floor early this morning, after they approved opening up the government was what? guest: he allowed for this debate to go forward, and for the debate to begin for next monday evening, so this is what cuts have been told for more than a week, he made good on his promise to restart the immigration debate, and what is going to be key is what is debated? it is not clear yet if it is going to be bipartisan efforts, and other bipartisan efforts that john mccain and chris coons have been part of, so there is a spectrum of bills that are available, and on the house side, things are less clear about where this goes forward. paul ryan has been hesitant to -- but it seems like he make some sort of agreement with democrats last night to get the
70 votes he needed to get this bill across the house floor by 5:30 a.m. in the morning, and other thing to watch in the immigration debate is links to spending, and republicans have said they will not consider a link to spending and the note want to vote on something that is going to increase the military and achieve all of these priorities like health spending if it also means having an uncomfortable, difficult conversation about dreamers. it is polarizing and they wanted to be separate, and now it is separate and there's oxygen in the room because this budget deal finally passed. i think there's going to be more of an effort of having open conversations versus various groups meeting behind closed doors tried to come up with a way to get their ball on the floor. there's not a clear path for immigration to go forward. good morning to you.