tv The War Room With Jennifer Granholm Current April 6, 2012 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
♪ in recent weeks we put a lot of focus on the war on women, and that's because women's rights are under siege, but that doesn't mean there isn't another side of the story. almost 40% of working wives make more than their husbands. single childless women in their 20s living in urban centers make more than their male peers, and by 2013 women will make up 60% of the college body. our next guest argues we're not preparing our son for a changing world. on the other hand our inventors and ceos are more than 90% men, and on the other hand our prisons and serial killers are more than 90% men. warren ferrell is an expert in the field of gender studies and
the best-selling author of seven some-odd books. thank you for joining us inside "the war room." i am on warren ferrell's board, so i'll be a bit of a devil's advocate for him. there are men who, you know, run everything and have higher salaries, so why should women get out the violins for men? >> first of all, power is really control over your own life and men and women should both get out the violins when either is hurting, because when either sex wins, both sexes lose. >> how are men losing? >> they are losing in the sense for the first time in u.s. histories, our sons will have less education than our dads will, and when our sons or
daughters have less education, that means our sons will not have the type of money to help finance our daughters, to be globally competitive. that's the biggest vulnerability to national security -- >> isn't that more of an issue of the economic times we live? n? >> no, it's something fundamental happening here. it used to be when a man didn't have a lot of education, he would use his muscle. and vocational schools -- they are cutting back on vocational schools. the white house and boys and men -- >> today the president spoke at a white house council on girls and women, and you want to create a white house council on boys and men. what would that council focus on? >> we would work synergistically
with the girls because we are all on the same team. the other thing is why is there a failure to launch among boys? >> why do you say that? >> boys are much more likely to be addicted to video game. and in the 18-hour category it moves into addiction, and that addiction -- that means you're motivated to win at the video game but that blocks your motivation in your brain to win in life. >> so it's not just video games though -- >> it's fatherlessness for example. when a boy doesn't have a dad he is very unlikely to be inspired to be a great dad. >> so would the white house council on men and boys encourage father to be present in their children's life. >> definitely. when fathers are not present in
children's lives, obama aside, children are far more likely to have educational problems far more likely to be drinking -- >> i have heard gloria steinham say women will only rise to get on corporate boards -- women will only rise to the extent that their partners are empowered to take on responsibilities of child care at home. so it's really an opportunity for men to be whole as my husband has been saying. >> your husband is totally right and you are on that point as well. when children are raised with a great deal of father involvement, they do better than children raised under any other circumstance. and when children are raised -- if a woman wants to be a fully engaged woman in the workplace and she wants to have a husband and well-raised
children, fine a man that cares about raising children and feels she can be respected. a lot of men out there want to do that but they need to know that their wife will respect them. >> and they feel that society places them in a box, it's to be the breadwinner or nothing. >> exactly. power is about feeling obligations to earn money that somebody else spends while you die sooner. >> so very quickly, from a policy perspective, the white house council on men and boys could advocate for policies that encourage what? >> everything from vocational education to recess a school system that understands -- that are boy friendly. they can look at economics and help boys get involved in jobs like robotics -- >> parental leave too. >> certainly that's a huge
thing. in sweden men are -- 85% of fathers are involved with their children for more than a month on parental leave -- >> they get a month of parental leave in sweden men. >> exactly. and if it is not used by men it is lost. >> so incentive to use it. >> exactly. >> to thank you so much to give us a different fassett. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> up next color of change is not a household name but that's not stopping them from getting a bunch of big-name brands to bolt from alec. and later brett ehrlich just plain makes some stuff up. >> coming up if this week was this crazy,
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♪ we're back in "the war room." i'm jennifer grandholm. wal-mart, pfizer at&t ups, exxon mobil. what do these five companies have in common besides being at the top of the fortune 500 list? they are all members of alec the american legislative exchange council. if you have been watching "the war room" lately it's a starry we have been all over. alec is an organization that works with state lawmakers and corporations to promote anti-democratic legislation like voter id and stand your ground laws, and also procorporation
laws. corporations pay big dues to belong to alec and they get to team as co-chairs on committees that draft model legislation on the issues they want to pass. and the glare of the spotlight has not been kind to alec. just this week coca-cola, pepsi, and kraft all announced they are severing their ties with alec. a group that has been instrumental in exposing the alec and again da is colorofchange.org. rashad robinson is their executive director and is in washington tonight. so glad to have you. >> thanks for having me. >> so it's been a good week for color of change but let me start with a question about why did color of change decide it was going to focus alec and
target the corporations that fund it? >> well last year as us in of the discriminatory voter id laws came about, we started to research to find out how we would have some real movement on pushing back against the laws. more and more information came to us that all fingers came back to alec and they did their work with the support of major corporations. we know where they stand on democracy and democratic values. they have different values but the question that we continue to pose was what would the values of these major public facing corporations corporations that every single day come to the black community and ask them to purchase our product or use
their services what are their values? where do they stand on issues like stand your ground or discriminatory voter id laws or marketing tobacco to young people, these are all legislations that alec has pushed around the country. >> let me share a sound bite from a representative of alec. >> the slaters that are a part of alec are united over free enterprise limited government. and i think those are principals that most of america agrees with. so to classify it as extreme right is just inaccurate. >> what is your reaction to that? >> the truth is nowhere in that sound bite. it is a great sound bite and of course alec has to find a way to defend themselves.
but alec hosts very nice conferences where major organizations come and work behind closed doors to create legislation that they hand to their state legislators. the nra and wal-mart who are both major members of alec can cook up the stand your ground laws in order to support the nra around guns they can cook up this piece of legislation and then hand it off to state legislators to walk into state house around the country who pretend their wrote the piece of legislation. and then go back and raise money from wal-marts and the other corporations of the world. this is not what the founding fathers thought about when they thought about creating a
democracy. >> we played some sound from the founder of alec about how it was his goal to not have so many people who vote. there's a lot of corporations that are affiliated with alec that my guess is they would say they are not in it to suppress the vote. they count on the african american community the youth community to support them. so now you have some corporationed who have decided not to bay ball. >> starting last year we started a deep conversations with corporations. we got pepsi to not renew their membership. and we have been working to pressure a number of other corporations, and my pressure i
mean really give them a chance before they go public to say we don't stand by alec and their goals. alec has continued to make where they stand clear on democratic values, so we gave these corp rayings a chance. at the beginning of this week we went public on coca-cola, and within about five hours they decided to change course and no longer sponsor alec kraft followed suit and next week we'll redouble their efforts and make it known about the relationship that a number of other major corporations who market their products to americans, let them know where they stand. why do major corporations want to work with a non-profit like alec who work to pass the kill-first laws, why would they want to partner with them. >> you are in a number of
conversations apparently. alec has 60 members on their board, so how many are you in conversation with? >> we're in deep conversation with about 15 major corporations. there are about 150 or more corporations who are sponsors of alec by our count. and we'll work to make sure that our members and the general public at large understands who these corporations are, and really provide every day people -- and, you know, governor, that's the important point we ant to remember about this campaign. the voices of every day citizens around the country who stood with color of change and they were able to push back against the cokes and pepsis and krafts of the world, and over the next couple of weeks we will continue to give them the opportunity to make their voices heard, and
that is a stark difference from what alec does where they are crafting these legislations that nobody asks for and nobody wants. >> who is it that you are in negotiation with? who do you expect that you'll be able to announce some agreements with? will you allowed to say? >> at this point, we have given these corporations a sort of drop deed date of monday and we want to honor that. because at the end of the day our goal is to get these corporations to end their partnership -- >> all right. >> the last couple of months of conversation has really been about educating them and now it's time for them to change course. >> will you come back on month and let us know how things go? will you do that? >> absolutely. absolutely. all right. one other thing quickly. if people want to become part of color of change because i know there's a big internet movement where do they go? >> they go to colorofchange.org,
and sign up on our website, and sign the petition to stop corporate-funded voter suppression. >> and the trayvon martin case i know has been a fuel for this because of the stand your ground laws. i signed one of those bills similar to florida, of course not knowing it would be used -- the disfence would be used in this horrible way. i would never sign it now. but that law and act of trayvon martin has i'm sure raised a profile of the stand your ground laws. >> it has been part of our conversation. in a place like wisconsin that doesn't have the death penalty, the idea that an individual can act as judge, jury and executioner, and doesn't have a death penalty because of the
stand your ground laws absolutely comes through alec. alec has gone back to their states and pushed bills where they by mistake left the alec mission statement on the paper and had to resubmit the bill. it's our vision for democracy and where real voices are able to be heard. >> you are awesome. color of change is doing great work. thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room." we'll see you next week. coming up the masters and women, women and mitt mitt and himself. we'll look at what had people talking this week. this is "the war room" only on current tv.
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past two years have intensified. pennsylvania a similar law was shelved, idaho this proved to be political poison. women are paying attention and having their voices heard. >> thanks for coming in. >> the aclu considers a demand that to get a job you have to let an employer open your private mail, the senate wants to make it illegal to hand over a password to your facebook account. back with us to discuss a
little politics is karen middleton she is the president of emerge america an organization that encourages women to run for office. lots going on with respect to women, but on this show we like to encourage women to raise their hand and run for office. there was a report that the united states ranked 91st worldwide of the percentage of women in the national legislature. how can we get more women involved? >> it's a great question and emerge is working to train democratic women across the country. and we are working in ten states, but women have to step up and identify other women that we think should be running for office and we have not seen
a dramatic change in the number of women running for office. if you run you have an equal chance of winning, but we're not running. >> what are the best arguments to try to get them to run, then? make your pitch to the women who are watching? >> women it's time to stand up. if you don't stand up and decide you are going to run for office, someone else will make the decisions for you. we followed the birth control issue, the equal pay issue, and women are -- they are going to the streets again. i would say go to the streets on april 28th -- >> what do you mean? >> there's a march -- >> march -- >> oh my goodness. but my other strategy is let us train you how to run for office. >> it's not about you, it's about the change that you want to make. so don't feel awkward or it's something where you are pointing at yourself.
you are pointing at the change in the future that you want to bring about. and if women are not at the table you are not going to be able to carve up things in a way that benefits women or children. >> women are critical to making decisions, and you know that. when more women are in office when we have a balance of women in power -- >> right. so now we have got a huge problem with women in corporation -- at corporation -- corporate heads. this week there was talk about what is going on at augusta, so we have ibm who is a chief sponsor at augusta, the ceo is a woman, and she is not invited to be a member like they have been doing for years, because she is a woman. >> that's ridiculous and the same thing we see in so many ways. in 1982 the ceo of usa network,
she had the same situation. we need to change our policies and have women at the table everywhere. >> this is president obama today and -- as the council on women and girls released its report. take a listen. >> opportunity and equality don't come without a fight, and sometimes you have got to keep fighting even after you have won some victories. things don't always move forward. sometimes they move backward if you are not fighting for them. >> it's so true. and the question is how do you prevent women from getting fatigued? >> i think that that's one of the things i seay among women who are thinking about running and serving for office. they feel like they don't want to fight that battle. we're saying women it's time to step up. >> your country needs you. >> your country needs you, and the women out there they think i
don't want to run for office i don't want to do it. i'm saying you step up and help other women. we need to support each other to be successful and we need to do it nationwide. >> karen middleton of emerge america, thanks for joining us. up next brett ehrlich offering you a preview of the week to come that has all of the sharpness of a >>just refreshing to hear. no other television show does that. we're keeping it real.
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it's time for this week/next week. this week when asked if her husband was a little too stiff, ann romney said we better unzip him and let the real mitt romney out. next week she'll do that and conservatives will slam him for not bending far enough to the right. you know what i mean? this week romney accused obama of running a hide and seek campaign. next week romney will say he meant it as a compliment no one has ever played hide and seek with him before because he always wanted to hide and seek at the next time. next week rick santorum will strike up a bro-mance with
anyone who will hang out with him. this week in an attempt to slim down the french president has banned cheese after dinner. whereas chris christie will issue the following statement: i'll take it. he is large, you see. see you next week when all of that totally happens. ♪ >> hot wax. ♪ oh my goodness. it's a really good thing it's friday. that's all i can say. we do want to hear from you, though. season is also in our war room. check us out at current.com/thewarroom. make your voice heard. and i want to thank you for joining us here on "the war room." it is obviously good friday and