tv Interview - Duzen Tekkal Anger and grief are the mainspring of my work. Deutsche Welle November 26, 2017 1:15pm-1:30pm CET
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you were born in hanover germany to parents who were kurdish immigrants from talking we'll be speaking about immigration and human rights welcome to the d w interview that's. mr what do you most value about germany. basically my whole life starting with. some might consider. doing what feels right getting up in the morning being. able to work without having to worry about losing a job. if something is a loan want to. have feeling of freedom is what motivates me. that. came to germany in one thousand nine hundred eighty five. persecuted religious minority your father was also a guest worker sort of themselves more to be immigrants or religious refugees. christian. definitely felt like they were religious refugees
i still remember when i was three when the first t.v. turned. to talk about us being immigrants. the question was always. are they from are they really person. that's been my father began with the activism that i continue. that's a big one your father a father was a floor time your mother was illiterate you have ten siblings today you are a political scientist and journalist you write books thanks to whom. and so forth. thank you many people as is always the case when people have a hard. on thanks to the majority of society to the solidarity around me growing up with my teachers neighbors. my mother couldn't read or write we had to find other ways but my parents instilled a spirit of doing the best with the chances we had even if we didn't have any. my
mum. always said we have to put two hundred percent of it. and i've taken that time. with you. when you are with your father who was in the social democrat party took you to the lower saxony parliament that might to be boring for another four year old but not for you. is pregnant that's why this thing for me is real impact on me as a minority within a minority as a religious minority and because of my nationality i understood quickly that what we had here was special democracy parliament. and my father was passionate when he explained to me that this was where german laws were made and that people could express their opinion freely this had such an emotional impact on me. basically want politicized
wiped out in two thousand and fourteen you decided to go to iraq to report about being massacred. so what if. you gave up a permanent job at r t how to do this first. decision was what was behind it if you could. give us that universal basic decision and it had little to do with nationality or background it was basically about the question am i living my life right. sound a bit pretentious but that's how it was i resigned a few months before the genocide even though i didn't have a plan b. i realized i was needed and i wanted to report on my religion something my father has always wanted me to do. no one was interested but we turned us into a story on the macabre way. and i was ready because i knew the story wanted to go.
so it was not crazy to go there but people here wanted to hear the story himself on. traumatized people he witnessed extreme suffering terrible stories what feelings did they say. you know. i thought i hadn't changed but my friends say i had. my last trip to a war zone in iraq was two months ago. i went back with the woman who had been captured by us we went to the terrible place where they had carried out a massacre which she had lost her relatives. i was impressed by the strength she gained through catharsis. she looked into the camera and said in german i am stronger than i am as a boy. that was very moving and when we came back a friend told us that the iraqi woman had become
a different person but that i had also changed and i looked exhausted of course something like this changes. i'm very easygoing a very warm open is i still am but now i can't forget everything at night it all stays with me but it also drives my work. the anger the grief the resilience everything i brought back from this these are the foundations of my work. this is also my task for society here for my homeland germany to report from hell to raise awareness about why it's so important to campaign for peace with the. one with the with this with kids with him from. the gulf and i'm you've written a book about migration called germany is under threat but it sounds a bit like the afghans like but you mean something very different. with the democrat i think criticized for writing a book with this title talking about the values that. we have to defend but my
response is why should we leave these questions to the rabble rousers and right wing populist in the twenty's because i wrote that from the perspective of a religious minority that had to look islam islam in the alley. but i also talk about angry twin and say that right wing extremists are doing the same as religious extremists extremists spoke in twenty fifteen and it still holds true today. this one's going to bore you didn't shy away from talking about fake refugees in the balkans or about islamic indoctrination. because you didn't want criticism of certain issues to be the sole domain of the far right mr mccarthy. the first and i say quite clearly that i don't want to serve the right this plays no role for. me this is a criticism that i have is this always a factor so i don't understand why we don't try to judge things according to healthy common sense without censorship. i
also try to help my native german friends. i know that certain topics are to be. with them to point to get. through this for example. if someone talks about certain aspects of a subject they might be misinterpreted. i think this is wrong because it means that we can be blackmailed into not. noticing that after talk shows i'm reduced to the years e.g. who is a devil worshipper the germans do not say. the nazi it's too easy to just keep mum because we're scared of being criticized. because it we have to be very open and honest when we approach certain questions that affect our lives together. and say that there are of course differences between refugees and that refugees are not a monolithic block by block the. so talk about the left wing liberals of yesteryear
do you mean. like that well that's exaggerated of course but in my book i talked about the angry twin on the religious extremism and right wing populism. maybe they should be attributed so to speak that would be the left wing liberal spectrum but there are differences there is well i don't like the way that migrants always reduce to the role of victim which is what actually happens in the ideology of multiculturalism. there is a danger of relativism. i often have the impression and i'm not alone that people from my world who are also active in this area said that they do not receive enough support when they criticize the system and. i think it's very diplomatic but this becomes an issue.
because you are criticize your own religion religion. i look critically at the religion which not everybody likes. there are these eternal people of yesteryear everywhere my motto is stop the criticism at home there are a patriarchal cultures in our culture of origin too that cannot be denied. your gross margins you are now a member of the christian democratic party and you ran for election and. for political scientist now want to go into politics. and. my father. always said i would either become a journalist or a politician but what he meant was that i had to campaign for the whole. stock market it was in my genes to stick up for. my own family gaining freedom for my
sisters and me. as women are not part of the plan also quite honestly. this struggle within the family gave me so much strain that i want to use it for others and. i'll do it for the christian democrats who i believe best represent my . father wasn't happy since he's been a social democrat for over thirty five years. but he has to live with us. in the. paint about restricting the numbers of refugees in your party. as a german with kurdish origins for how many immigrants do you think germany can cope with. per quarter if i get the list i don't know if that's the right question i keep wondering though. i don't think that we can fix numbers in my conversations and lectures i keep hearing people say we want to know who's coming we want to know if they want to integrate into society and we want to have a say you know this we don't want others to decide for rights we want to be
integrated in the debate if. you want i can see a vision and maybe they are the real humans but it needs to be formulated and communicated we have to talk to people solar plexus and then for me politics is not only about facts but also about how to get through to people what they're going to tackle we always conclude our interview with three in complete sentences that we ask you to finish regarding immigration and what i expect from politicians is. really listen. and clarity so you really want and humanism. religious freedom means that it's where everybody can expect people who want to live in germany to. follow the basic law even if they don't respect it i have to get other words i know he's not using tackle this break.
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