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so scares me the most about his statements seem to rise is that someday we won't even see the roofs. but what will become of those who stay behind and say my husband went to peru because of the crisis. if he hadn't gone there we would have died of hunger. down. displaced starts october 16th on don't you. this is news and these are our top stories u.s. president donald trump has arrived at a military hospital after testing positive for coded 19 the marine one helicopter brought him to the ball to receive medical center where he's expected to remain for several days white house officials said he has been suffering mild symptoms and it
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was only a precautionary measure. german chancellor angela merkel says they tried deal between the e.u. and britain is still possible that's despite a lack of a breakthrough drink breaks it talks in brussels the comments followed a 2 day e.u. summit on foreign relations during which the bloc agreed to impose sanctions on 14 leading officials in belarus. a media says it is ready to discuss a cease fire in the separatist region all of a buck which is seen heavy fighting between armenian and as a pleasure army forces many a military official said that as a vision carried out strikes on the region's capital stephanie on friday doesn't think killed in the recent flare up in fighting. this is news from berlin you can follow some twitter and instagram at d w news or visit our website at state of lead dot com.
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i'm up it's home is landscape it's also an inner landscape. there's you are somewhat into the idea of home. have a kind of like a home can be something quite wonderful it can be custom dialects idiosyncracies. what is home what makes a home home gemini's being reunified for 30 years we mark the anniversary by exploring the german concept of high mountain home. and.
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norcross has lived in the us for almost 20 years she is an illustrator and writer and a professor at a new york art school. we met in berlin at the plots and see memorial center for victims of the nazis. to her to be german has always been to feel a sense of guilt and awareness of things on sit in the future like many germans and i grew up knowing that members of my family had been soldiers to get of on board but you weren't allowed to mourn to acknowledge loss it was only when i read letters written by the brother of my paternal grandfather which were very emotional and i have to say she wasn't a supporter of nazi ideology crying for that i allowed these feelings to come out for the 1st time ever else might have a hope he's a good. belonging
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a german reckons with history and harm has been translated into numerous languages and won a number of awards in achaean earths a story of her grandfather and an uncle who was only a teenager when he died in the war. isn't interested in concepts of guilt victims and perpetrators but in the masses who didn't rise up against the nazi regime and thereby in able to its crimes the fellow travellers. firstly because they were in a majority and secondly because it's such a vague term there were some fellow travelers who helped jewish people and saved their lives but then there were others who committed horrendous atrocities and in a way they're the ones who make us most uncomfortable because they're the ones we most identify with. nora kroger takes over readers on a journey into her family's past starting with her own experience of facing hostility as a german. and the shame she felt the 1st time she met
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a holocaust survivor in new york put on an accent to cover up her german is. and the growing urge she felt to investigate her own family's role in the war. whenever she visited germany she would trawl through flea markets on the hunt for clues to the past photographs postcards documents anything that gave her insight into the nazi era and help to understand what it means to be chairman today. it's been i grew up with german culture i was raised in germany i grew up speaking german and of course that gave me a very deeply rooted understanding of what home. even though i live in the us and these days i'm more at home there than i am in germany when i visit germany i would never refer to the us as home. america even though it's where most of my friends.
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because to me home is closely tied to my childhood home a. place that defined you at an early age. to me that's an important part of the concept of harvesting tired of homework because. nora talked to her family and collected everything she could find from letters to school exercise book that once belonged to her uncle to her horror one of his is says was titled the jew supports nose mushroom testaments to the nazis racist ideology and how it infiltrated the classroom. she collected everything she found in a sort of scrap book juxtaposing the stories she heard and the documents she found with her own illustrations inspired by family lore such as the moment her father's family was informed of the death of the firstborn son franz carl was 18 when he was shot in italy describes a conversation with her father's cousin how memories came pouring out of her like
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ice melting. home as she discovered is not necessarily something positive it's a concept in extra could be tied up with the responsibility that we all have as inheritors of our country's pasts. there because. the term. changes as society changes and in the course of time everybody should be able to decide for themselves what it means. that was the reason why the book was called highmark in germany before it's a loving attempt to reach out to germany but at the same time it's a commitment to keep examining the past and commitments also. says nor across means carrying the burden of history but it's also a longing for songs landscapes the bits and pieces of. life it's both terrifying
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and wonderful. in berlin there's still one original section of the girl and while remaining i knew it personally from my days as an east german border guard i was 18 at the time and had pledged to oath to defend my communist homeland but after a few months i refused to perform armed service was demoted and experienced the fall of the wall locked up in the barracks i hated to walk yet i also hated the frenzy that followed the shove from one contrived home on to another being essentially the next was something i considered wrong and dangerous and jet even after 30 years of a reunified germany i'm thrilled that a piece of the war is still standing. a friend of mine urban archaeologist startle comes here often to tell turfs about it. as for mine since the summer i built sense
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that this is a bit of a special place i think that's true though it has a kind of aura folks come here and feel like they're intruding on something i'm just like now they ask where can i see the wall and i tell them this is the real war and they're like ah ok people are always seeking authenticity and then comes where is based in where is west because no one can really notice or imagine that anymore and that kind of a map question. is what is it about the wall that interests you have more of this interest i'm interested in urban history. and in everything that also has an impact on society and there's nothing more blatant than a physical barrier that divides a society in. these days people no longer talk about its reunification healing the scars of the vision it didn't take long for disillusionment to set in former east germans were to take part in the free market
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. not have a share that just 5 percent of east germany state on property sold off by the tri hand agency went to east germans at the same time east germany was officially branded as an illegitimate state a dictatorship robbing people of the former homeland. being robbed of your homeland is such a loaded concept. you know i see it more as an egg ation of your experiences your memories of your past. that deprives you of your existential need to find your place in the world of and maybe that's something connected with homeland being robbed of your very existence. the tenets but. then 16 years later germany was awash in flags in the east and west north and south of the world cup truly united the country which was caught up in football fever. yeah that was cool really yeah 2006 everyone had germany
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flags on their cars. and yeah i went to university with the germany flag painted on my face and then i also went there sporting the turkish flag value and my professor from the silent came to me says even with anger you can't be for germany one day in turkey the next you have to choose you can't be for one sometimes and then for the other and when i said sure you can he got all huffy and that's what i mean with love for your homeland it's possible and it's enriching it's not a burden to love more than one homeland and it's not just about nationality it's also about specific things on our. flags have never made me feel patriotic to me homeland has more to do with the landscape in which i find peace the aroma of pumpkin soup cooking and fire pits in the yard the sound of folk songs of the many things i love about. hold none are political why germany needs
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a home ministry remains unclear to me this is how my homeland ministry isn't a nice way of uniting it so i mean and this unity thing german unity i think this word has to go i mean why does the. most basic. why do we have to me is the single entity i'd rather we have affection the german affection. when i grab store wall is a good projection screen for that a symbol of the possibility for change the way of encouraging people to define themselves what they call home which mocked him or not but i still like to watch them i like the balls and yes for me it's a symbol of something positive. yes namely that nothing stays the way you think it will nothing lasts forever and fundamental skepticism over everything is always judicious. that's a super statement really. disrespect the wall is
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a real piece of home to me taught me to doubt things and to overcome including contrived ideas about my homeland. at the n.s.u. trial in munich in 2018 to be out of shape was convicted for her involvement in 10 murders for over 5 years the terror group known as the national socialist underground went on a murder spree targeting immigrants older men children had lived in germany freed lives in their new home betrayed him. the trial is a central theme in his life and work. for a writer and director one who researches germany's dark side for years callus has been studying the n.s.u. and waiting his way through thousands of pages of trial transcripts with terrifying results. we suspect that
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this an assertion of complex did not dissolve but instead migrated a security apparatus. with the world to look out for hidden fire rights networks. in 2014 callus wrote a play called deal for the gap about the energy bomb attack on corpse trusses in cologne it starred actors and local residents of turkish origin for a long time the police suspected them of being behind the bombing the victims were treated like perpetrators that's a theme in the play alice also shows that the murders exacted yet another victim germany's open and largely tolerant society. as knows that he or his own father could have been targeted by the ennis you so he holds up a mirror to his home born in germany callouses the so. and of an armenian father and a jewish mother who both immigrated to germany from turkey callus himself is
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a german citizen and yet. it is often certainly a quest but in exploration of the question i've asked myself what does this word highlight home really mean to me what parts have brought me here. meaning land of the fathers but the wrong place. it shouldn't be us from on this father's day. i sat in my father's ashes and down the hill of this toy the wind blows them on to the shrubs of bushes once the ashes settled around in the air in this thing it was of the rocks which surround me my father asked can hold out but i do not believe what you need to hear. not in armenia. but in bielefeld this is where he belongs where callus was born worked as
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a bouncer and almost ended up in the wrong crowd. but he wrote about his experience his autobiographical novel was angry and fierce and helped him liberation self from his family from his roots in the. in the business suit. mentions in the. shop was for sale and told him we're saw it as a burden. a rock solid stroke of the character as a young person supplied by writing this novel i wanted to read myself at a bar. who was actually. callous studies writes plays and directs in berlin stuttgart cologne dresden challenging stereotypes and defying expectations in his work he takes a keen critical look at german culture and society and because he regularly
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receives hate mails and death threats sometimes his premieres take place under police protection he keeps fighting for precisely this reason it's. because the craft is now driving forces the fact that what surrounds me as rogue. are still up against strong antagonists it's a rest stop working no i leave room for them. and the bad service i see myself as a soldier in a battle you know them come from. a battle with the right wing extremists threat that still growing in germany neuron darva callous for him identity and home are questions with no clear answers. i will return and settle i will mr like a parasite in
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a society that i didn't send chills and i will be a hero if people who want to see that as a hero a role model if necessary and for a cautionary tale if i must and it isn't then it's that miles. my feeling of homeland is at its strongest what i'm sitting on a plane or a high speed train when i'm moving. in of course there's an internal story images my own roots there is so beautiful landscapes in the east the skies of mecklenburg to ring in forest all of that is homeland but it's also tied up with the bitter struggles i experienced in east germany there's no 2 ways about it. we had a community that in the scope of us frequently asked to participate in discussions especially now in celebration of the 30th anniversary of german reunification. in
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my life that we've become experts at trivializing east germany or interestingly this 3 younger generations do it publicly although they have no experience of dictatorship. that's really intriguing. in the west this 68 generation demand as an open discussion about the holocaust victims and that the victims be rehabilitated. one obvious question for me is why today's young generations have clearly over identified with their parents and don't see east german history as a history of dictatorship that. was born addressed and grew up again the daughter of the communist party. father was officially the head of the socialist youth club but worked undercover as a starting agent holding 8 different identities it was also a man who brutally justifies his children. ran away at the age of 14
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becoming one of the country's top female sprinters like many of her fellow athletes she was secretive subjected to doping only later did she find out just how heavily . she studied german in you know flip the g.d. hour. in 1989 and continued her study in the west. after receiving teaching assignments she became a professor a writer focusing on the issue of commit to terms with the east german past. i think this idea of german unity a lot with all the happiness and pride that it was a peaceful revolution it clearly made us a match and in the east and the west that things would be a little easier. for. you and i find it specially right now it would be good for east germans to to recognize what a tough journey it's been on getting rid of the dictatorship also an internal one within our collective social science we underestimated the heavy traumatic toll of
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such a long dictatorship. that we haven't even got to the stories of the victims yet. in her book which translates as contested zone was published in 2019 interweaves contemporary history with that of her own family analyzing the reasons for xenophobia and with anger at the state originates in eastern germany on average the right wing populist party has twice as many voters in the east as in the west. the world in the east wanted to get rid of their dictatorship wanted to be free wanted to be a united country along with other germans. up the route now there are many who feel left behind humiliated we could even say colonized but on the contrary we are in another new phase now we in the east have to decriminalise ourselves. what
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emerges from that can be pretty potent. for any scribble the fall of the berlin wall and $989.00 was a joyous experience that has to do with her own history of course but she hopes that $89.00 will be part of the positive narrative of people in germany both west of the east and we don't have to become artificially homogenous but we need to find our way out of a negative mindset i was saying recently why shouldn't east germans win the nobel peace prize yes they ought to receive this external knowledge under their historic achievement so that they can finally appreciate it internally. in search of europe in a new exhibition 22 photographers with the kreutzer agency look at the continent from 22 angles exploring questions about identity about past and future the results
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are highly political and very private. in a borderless europe what exactly does home mean. in a schoenberg went to the river order on the german polish border to find out. that i was there for the 1st time i thought about the construct of the borders in this way. the landscape there looks no different from that on the brandenburg side felt completely familiar. a landscape steeped in tragic history in melancholy. the people who live here were forcibly. relocated after the 2nd world war and originally came from a completely different part of the country. for decades it was incredibly difficult for them to become attached to the region to feel at home there because they were always afraid of being displaced again before. you can see that
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a bit when you drive through the region some of the villages are a little bleak. portraits of young people from a german polish community project that expresses a deep yearning for roots. i think the idea of home plays an important role in poland they are much more attached to home. and of course it's true that nationalism is on the rise. and that it's fueled by fears of globalization before. and the loss of national identity. an open europe an idealistic project that's lost much of its sheen many countries of reinforcing borders and retreating into themselves the rise of nationalism is a topic that has been also tackles. this tendency which is very
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strong in europe right now it was a very serious threat it was. very interesting. if i myself feel any sense of nationalism or at least peterson and i began thinking about where i come from. corn in norway explores what connects him to his origins the photographs the life if you scrape uncle. he will probably die in the same town he was born in a completely different life to i called his own he left the town when he was to. have always drawn to it time and time and. to me it's one of many homes. it's possible to have multiple homes. can you have multiple homes doesn't that go against the very idea how many routes can take route.
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which is contained in the idea of home visits sometimes too much i think. the idea is to load out totally overwhelmed before that's why i prefer to talk about being out on. my her 1st pitches depict an ambivalent relationship confined. moments since against the vastness of the landscape. when i am always i realize that for me it is also about saying goodbye maybe even disillusionment. negative but it's not meant to be. if you strip away illusions then you see more clearly for me it's kind of a burden that you have to remember size and idealize a place of origin so for me feels very much like
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a liberation from before. home an idea that's always shifting in our globalised era it's harder than ever to pin it down an idea charged with significance and sometimes. the problem is that i focus so heavily on this idea of home and in fact can be something quite wonderful it can be custom dialogues idiosyncrasies and unique next. it's great that in europe we have this unity in diversity. i had a nephew. perhaps essentially home. it's about belonging and we all want to belong in that sense it's an idea that unites us. and. 30 years of unified germany 5 approaches to the concept of hug goodbye and off it
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is and from $21.00. how have 2 sides of the home together in the years following german unification. in pop culture. music. and last but not least in the. 30 years of german acacia from the
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perspective of the people. who wrote. on d. w. . they shared one dream to start a new life young migrants in sicily to base if they like their living hell it was good the risk they took doing what i went through. not really wanted you know and now going to give you 25 get all i survive and you cannot survive on that coming here you are already in from the welcome to our own infringing proper got the 77 percent living in 60 minutes on d w. like . oh. my god says i was sued for the russians so. steep. so
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many different walks of life. some are. oddly tried but all of them come straight from the heart the former seal even horses in the morning delusion the marsh the injured arm. from the 1st of the last to their final resting place the russians on g.w. documentary. 30 years ago these images went around the world on october 3990 germany was united barely.

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