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have a great weekend. we'll see you monday. good night from new york. trish: a criminal probe, criminal. that's the bombshell out of d.c. as bill barr and john durham's probe has turned into a full-fledged criminal investigation. sources telling fox the probe expanded after a recent trip to rome with attorney general barr. a soon to be released report by michael horowitz will shed light on why durham's probe is taking this criminal turn. joining me, pennsylvania
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congressman scott perry. are we going to find out what the crime might have been? >> i think half of america is waiting for about three years now to see what the beginning of this russia scheme or hoax was. and i think there is a good chance the attorney general and durham are headed in that direction. what actually started this whole thing to begin with. trish: what do you think rome had to do with it, if anything? >> i think this thing happened not only domestically. but there were connections overseas, whether it was the u.k., australia, russia or ukraine. so i think the attorney jones is just following the leads and the evidence to where it takes him. and he's putting the pieces together. i think that's why you see such
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consternation coming out of the far left and of course adam schiff and company about what's happening. jerry nadler and adam schiff are not happy this evening. trish: first i'm probing sort of what this -- what this is. why did general bar make the decision to make this a criminal probe? one of the things that has been discussed at length on this show and others is exactly why there was a fisa warrants on an innocent american, to spy on an innocents american, carter page. they were using some rather shoddy intelligence, if you ask me. if you can calm it intelligence. don't forget the steele dossier that was bought and paid for by the opposition in this case, hillary clinton. so you had christopher steele former british spy calling all his buddies in russia.
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you have to look at the information gathered overseas on this round. and putting together a so-called dossier. it seems the fbi thought was credible enough to actually spy on members of the campaign. and that's hugely troubling in so many ways. and for the governments we are in the democracy and the system we are. >> that's exactly right. it would appear that some at the top of the fbi collaborated to make up the evidence so to speak, and then sought to investigate as legitimate intelligence. i think that's where bar and durham -- i think -- i also think it's interesting that it's opened up as a criminal case before talking to brennan, comey, clapper, et cetera. who has the attorney general been talking to? when he brings those folks in
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what kind of information is going to be verified. those folks i think would be very concerned this evening. trish: i'm sure there are a lot of democrats who are really nervous. this is not going to play so well for them. they are trying to say this is political. you have adam schiff and jerry nadler saying this probe is a vehicle for president trump's political revenge. of course, they have no idea what the crime is that potentially was committed. the attorney general has something enough to say we need to launch this as a criminal probe. wouldn't you want to sit back and say let me wait and hear what he has? >> right. we don't know that it's political. none of us know what he has. i would remind everybody. it wasn't political in their eyes when, mueller was spending $30 million and hundreds of subpoenas and witnesses and all
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that time to investigate president trump. that wasn't political with but some how immediately without knowing what the potential charges may be about who, this is political. we know they will seek to discredit the attorney general and this investigation. and i would say transparency across the board is the answer to all this stuff. then we don't have to speculate on whether it's political or not. >> i am troubled with nancy pelosi not taking that vote. get it all out there in the open. if you are going to undermine the will of the american voters let them know what you are doing and vice versa. with attorney general barr and this investigation, let us here it. -- hear it. bring it on. >> most of of the members of congress have no idea what's happening down at the scif. they can't hear it and they can't read it, and they have to
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go home to their bosses, their constituents, they haver ask them questions -- they ask them questions and they don't have answers. it says the congress shall impeach the president, members of congress. trish: you look at bill clinton and richard nixon. there was a vote that took place and formal inquiry. this is a whole other can of worms entirely. it makes sense to me. as soon as it crossed last night, i thought wait for it. you know they are going to say it's political. but we don't know what attorney general barr is suspecting happened. it would be prudent of everybody to at least wait for that. but, you know. >> they don't want to hear what the attorney general has to say, but they want to talk about this whistleblower. why is one person allowed to
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anonymously accuse the president and start an impeachment hearing? where is the transparency there? trish: an investigation into the possible' corruption leading to the russia probe. my next guest might have some clues as to what in fact kicked off the original investigation. former trump 2016 campaign advisor, george papadopoulos believes the feds were trying to frame him and set him up. he'snl next. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ when i lost my sight, my biggest fear was losing my independence.
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trish: john dur happen's investigation into the corrupt beginnings of the russia probe. we are learning it may have turned criminal based on what mr. durham and attorney general barr learned on their trip to rome. durham and barr were interested in what the italian secret service knew about joseph mifsud who promised george papadopoulos he could deliver russian dirt on
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hillary clinton. author of the book "deep state target," george papadopoulos himself. congrats on the book. i want to start at the beginning. you have an interesting and in some ways alarming story. i know you think this was a bit of a setup and we'll get to your reasons why. march 2016. you join the trump team as a foreign policy advisor. shortly thereafter you met with this professor from malta, mr. mifsud. how did that all happen? >> so, you are right, in march of 2016 i joined donald trump's campaign after i finished work on ben carson's campaign. in between i worked at a company
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called the london seasonture for law practice it's operated by people connected to either western governments, western intelligence services or those type of individuals. and i notified them after about a month that look i'm going to be joining the donald trump campaign. they became furious and said why would you be leading donald trump, jr.'donaldtrump,donaldtt. they said before you go we need to introduce you to somebody. i think this is what barr and durham are look into. a woman who he later found out was connecting u.k. officials to
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bruce ohr, and also had a professional working relationship with bob mueller after 9/11, was the one who told me, why don't you go to rome with the company to this university where we are going to introduce you to many people there who can help you on the donald trump campaign. none of these people were russian. most of of these people were high-level lawyers or connected to western governments, so i didn't think there was anything suspicious. i go to rome. trish: okay. >> then i go to rome to this place called link campus which is currently under investigation by both italian intelligence services, the italian government and william barr and john durham. is this joseph mifsud, the picture you are looking at? this is the guy you met? >> yes.
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so i meet joseph mifsud in rome. after i'm introduced to him by the italian foreign minister. before my name is public in the "washington post" i'm being chaperoned in rome by the italian foreign minister to meet this video receive mifsud. later in london on april 26 after i had been probed by the australian government, the british government and the u.s. embassy, he decide to drop this information unsolicited in my lap-over brunch at a five star brunch in london. that they have information on hillary clinton. i never asked for this information. trish: you have been set up by this meeting with him by someone you said was connected to bruce ohr, which fusion gps, nelly, his wife was connected to fusion
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gps. this maltese professor says i can connect you with hillary clinton's emails? did he have an accent in was he russian or british? was he born in malta? >> he never offered me anything. there was a misunderstanding he was offering something. there was no connection whatsoever to russia. he was clearly some sort of operative. was there to simply dangle or try and sabotage me and by extension the campaign with false information. simply over brunch at a london hotel he tells me hey, george, do you know the russians have hillary clinton's emails? the issue is this individual was promising to introduce myself and others on the campaign to various leaders around the world. he said i know people at the
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state department in brussels, the european parliament, the vietnamese prime minister. you hear a lot of gossip about so many different things in political circles. so when he told mow this information i didn't know what to do with it. i basically absorbed it. i never told anybody on the campaign. after this meeting with him that's when things became strange in london. the british minister of foreign affairs reached out to me. gregory barrack and terrance dudley. i'm not sure where they fit into all of this. they randomly contact me and decide they want to take me out to drinks shortly after mifsud tells me he has this information. then the australian comes a few days later. the situation i found myself in march to the beginning much,
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mucd -- thebeginning of may 201. for people hike clapper, brennan and comey and high-level officials at the obama white house, it looks like all these individuals were connected to the west and no russians. i guess that's what william barr went to rome to find out what was going on. trish: did the maltese professor, joseph mifsud, did he have an accent in did he speak with a russian or british accent? >> he had no russian accent. my understanding is he's italian. he's ethnically italian but was raised in malta. a very murky, shadowy player showing up in many strange places. apparently according to michael
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flynn's lawyer, sidney powell who just filed a very interesting motion last week, joseph mifsud was targeting michael flynn as well as we three months before he targeted me in rome. the coincidences are eerie. i don't think it's happenstance that mifsud was involved in michael flynn's case. and we'll probably understand who actually told him to meet with me in 2016. trish: we have george papadopoulos here on the show tonight. and we are going to be back with a lot more on this. heartache, brutality and redemption. the mist crept into the pivot hole beside her... you're late. david! what did you think of the book? it's a...masterstroke of... heartache...brutality... ...and redemption. you didn't read it, did you? i didn't...but i will.
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trish: we are back with my guest, former trump campaign advisor, george papadopoulos. where we left off. you said joseph mifsud you believe was trying to sort of set you up along with some
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others by telling you the russians had access to hillary clinton's emails, and you in turn gave that information to an australian intelligence person while having drinks in london in a bar. am i correct on that? >> i think that's the cover story, actually. what he tells me -- when he tells me this information in late april 2016, i had already been approached by the australian government a week or so before he tells me this information. now i have no idea why the australian government decided to send two operatives from their embassy to meet with me in london. trish: they told you they were australian intelligence. >> no, they don't. this is something you learn much later on. hindsight is 2020. i wish i had it back then.
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trish: who did they say they were? >> representatives of the australian embassy. you think they are u.s. allies. trish: what did they want from you? >> exactly. they go to tell me that donald trump we believe in australia is a pariah. he should not be supporting the trans-pacific partnership and his positions regard russia and other matters are a threat to international peace and security. so clearly the australians have a vested interest in the trans-pacific partnership. when i met with alexander downer i was hearing why the america first agenda was an anathema to what these governments wanted. when donald trump was talking about protectionist measures, being tough on china. advocating from the u.s. position on the tpp and
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renegotiating international trade deals, there was i think a concerted effort by these foreign governments who did have these interests to deck the cards against him and hopefully predict a clinton victory. so like i said -- trish: they were trying to lobby you in some way, shape or form. you are the foreign policy advisor. so they are saying these are the things important to us and they thought you would somehow convey that to him? >> i assume so. it wasn't just the australians. another government that's clearly under investigation, the british government, they were hard line against donald trump's brexit approach. so when i would meet with those officials when they are terrified about that. trish: you were a popular guy. >> london was a very strange city. london was definitely a strange
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city for me in 016. trish: i have heard that in terms of the intel communities it can be extremely strange. you have all these people reaching out to you. where does it take the turn where you think they were trying to set you up? >> there is a very interesting moment in my i guess part of this saga. approximately one year ago i was one of four witnesses invited to testify to the house oversight committee in front of congressman mark meadows and john ratcliffe. the other three witnesses were jim comey, and loretta lynch. when i went to testify behind closed doors before these prominent members of congress. it was clear there was a lot at least some sort of surveillance going on our me in london.
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the key question is was that based on facts and a legal basis or was there something more insidious going on here. in my opinion, and i think my testimony for anybody who is interested, they can google it it's public now, will see i actually notified authorities my meetings with these people including the australian government because of how bizarre they are. i thought they were up to something they shouldn't have been doing and they were opening spying on me. these meetings were some of the most of consequential events surrounding this investigation william barr and john durham are spearheading. now that mueller's testimony has come to a close and the next chapter opens. these events will have to be scrutinized from a different perspective. trish: what do you think italy has to do with it.
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attorney general barr and john durham were just over there. you are saying there is a link to the professor you met perhaps in rome? we don't know anything yet. we are waiting. like everyone else. but what is your gut feeling. what are your instincts telling you given what happened to you. what do you think attorney general barr may be on to? >> i think -- i categorically believe jim comey and bob mueller lied to the american people when they stated joseph mifsud was a russian agent offering some sort of information to me. all the overwhelming public evidence -- forget the private classified stuff -- suggests joseph mifsud was an operative for the west. his own lawyer says it. when i saw can them go to london two times, i understood that
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right there and then that italy essentially became the epicenter of the new investigation and whatever they were told in rome about joseph mifsud resulted in a criminal investigation. their investigation morphed into a criminal investigation. was it joseph mifsud testifying about somebody who might have been handling him that wasn't the russians? was it something else? but for it to morph into a criminal investigation as soon as they left rome, that is very important. trish: people can read all about this stressful, difficult journey you had in your brand-new book, george. i look forward to talking to you some more because certainly you have had a wild experience. george papadopoulos. thank you very much. coming up, everyone. a former fbi agent thinks former
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this country lose their voices when it comes to the freedom and rights of the people of china. >> vice president pence should shut the hell up number one. all-american companies are doing business in china, while these holier than thou politicians, if they want to worry about china, why don't they stop all transactions with china. trish: joining me niger innis and david morey. what did you make of mr. barclay's comments? >> usually i like sir charles and his many colorful statements. but i disagree vehement vehemently. the nba fashions itself as the woke league. the entire nba boycotted north carolina because of a bathroom
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law they have down there. somehow the silence is deafening when it comes to exercising free speech and the people of shopping congress waving american flags, singing the star spangled banner wanting freedom. trish: david, you have got to admit that's messed up. the houston rockets general manager who stood for democracy. they tried to back peddle it, but the cat was already out of the bag. we know the nba wants billions of dollars in revenue with china. they are a business, i get it. but they are very representative i think of america and our values, one of which is freedom and of course democracy. something the hong kong protesters were trying to stand for. >> right now you have a conflict and tension between american free speech and chinese
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diplomacy. american free speech will and should win in that conflict and tension. charles barkley has one point i might agree with. people hate that from both sides, from both parties. remember vice president pence left in a preplanned stunts of leaving the nfl when some of the players took a knee during the national anthem. something i'm not a fan of. but this is not a natural advocate for free speech. darkly is talking -- barkley is talking about free speech, i give him room there. trish: it strikes me every other president in recent history, you look at the soaring gdp in china. they have taken off because they have taken off.
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american companies wants access to that, access to the billion plus consumers. but no one is thinking about america in all of this. every ceo is thinking about him or herself. everybody shareholder is thinking about him or herself. nobody is thinking about how this will affect our country, the united states of america, niger, 10, 20 years down the road. isn't that the place where government needs to step in. they need to say, hey, nba, if you don't actually stand for values this country represents, maybe you shouldn't be doing business over there. >> it's those very values that have made millionaires out of these players. the freedom of expression, that free market capitalism, or embraims of free market capitalism along with democracy
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that makes us the house and the nba the multi-billion dollar industry that it is. it is our trade deficit with china the last 30 years that made hem the second largest economy of in the world. president trump to his credit is the first president republican or democrat that is finally challenging them and it's long overdue. trish: david, you go back historically, everybody has been concerned about it. bill clinton expressed concerns, but nobody ever did anything. >> that's a fair points. the president did make a move. i'm not sure it many the right move. but let's see if it works. we have got to get along with china. the two biggest super powers in the world have to deal with each other. all kinds of issues. so we have got to get our trade stuff sorted out. china needs to change some of their ways, piracy,
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counterfeiting. trish: i hope they get there. but i think if we get a trade deal it will be the distinguish of something, but i won't be a panacea. we have much more work when it comes to china. niger, david, good to see you. coming up, we have a video of a rather are fat cat that refuses to run on a treadmill. that's going viral. >> are you working out? good girl. that's good work. a former fbi agent is here who thinks former fbi officials clapper, brennan and comey could be in the crosshairs of an investigation. performance comes in lots of flavors.
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trish: u.s. attorney john durham is investigating the russia probe investigators. now it's criminal. the american people deserve to know why exactly what some people call and witch
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community -- pardon me, that's the president's term. now we have reason to believe the origins may involve a crime, at least according to how this probe is taking a turn. don't worry, cnn contributor and former fbi director who was fired for lying under oath says there is nothing to see here. >> i know because i was there in the room when these decisions were made. i worked with the team that's opened and initiated these cases. i know nothing improper was done. >> are there legitimate questions about how the investigation began? and laws were broke snn. >> no, not from my perspective. trish: you are not bothered by the fact that they got a fisa warrant and they put a footnote that it was opposition research they were because it on.
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joining me, former fbi agent. does it trouble you, as someone who used to be at the fine, that they were getting fisa warrants based on opposition research that had never been checked. >> andy mccabe being on cnn, he can cover his own trial if things don't go well. it's totally out of the norm for the fbi. using opposition research to try to get your fisa. any other agent would have been thrown out for doing something like that. it's good we are going to look at this. let the chips fall where they may. trish: any sense of why it's become a criminal probe? >> they are finding things that
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are clearly not the norm and cross the line. what they are doing now is talking to all the peripheral people. the witnesses, gathering information. and eventually you will see subpoenas to interview people who are potential suspects. trish: meaning? mccabe, clapper, brennan, comey? >> all of the above. if crimes were committed, they were authorized and agents were instructed to commit certain acts. here everything was being done by senior leadership of the fbi. the agent on the streets were exclude from doing the operations they are trained to do. trish: it was a tight-knit group. the former national security advisor michael flynn is accusing agents of lying about his interview with them. it's quite an accusation.
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what are your thoughts on this? >> again, we are talking the same people doing that investigation. flynn refers to the 302. the 302 is not a form you fill out. it's a blank sheet of paper agents write the report on. the question is do the notes the agents took match what was said and reported in the interview? this is a significant interview. was it recorded? if we are talking of somebody who is just a witness, they don't record. but if we are talking to somebody who we are looking at as a possible subject, we record that to insure the accuracy. trish: george papadopoulos was on the show earlier. it's believed whatever conversations he had with australian embassy folks may have launched a lot of this or kicked it into high gear.
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it was several months after that they used the crest for steele dossier to basically get themselves a fisa warrant. or at least that's how it appears to me. so is there any chance that this is somehow all interconnects? i don't know if you had a chance to listen to what papadopoulos was saying. he believes he was somewhat set up and there were a lot of people trying to follow him and understand what his links were because they believed the russians were trying to infiltrate him. but he doesn't think it was the russians. >> if the russians were trying to infiltrate him and i did hear what he had to say, the fbi could have gone to him and say, hey, warning, the russians are trying to infiltrate. and they didn't do that. but they were looking maybe we can catch somebody in a crime and do as investigation.
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obviously biases were at play. that's not what you see from the rank and file, the good men and women. this is what you saw from a select few at headquarters. trish: it's wild, all of it, for sure. you have never seen anything like this in your career, right? >> in my 20-some-odd years i have never seen anything approaching it. i didn't even have a sign in my front yard supporting anybody. that's how agents behave. but we can rest assured the average agent is out there doing the job and doing it properly. it's just a select few. trish: coming up, the video of a fat cat refusing to run on an under water treadmill. >> you working out?
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we'll do baby shark, and then we'll go to kat. baby shark is the mascot that's been touring d.c. and apparently going around -- >> handing out little baby sharks. listen. people talk about the beatles all the time, i agree the beatles are great, big fan. however, i'm not sure they've reached the level of popularity that baby shark has reached at this point. i have no children, my friends don't have children, no one in my family has children, yet i've heard the song. trish: do we have the song, guys? >> it goes -- ♪ there's no reason for me to have heard this song, there are no children in my life. and yet i've heard it, i just sang it. [laughter] honestly, good for you, baby shark people, whoever you are. i'm a capitalist. they created a great product. trish: they sure did. we love that. everybody loves this cat named cinder block who doesn't want to get on a tread mill. >> yeah. she's on the tread mill and just
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going like this instead of actually walking. of. trish: we have it. >> yes. i can watch it all day. honestly, this really hit home for me because i took my cat to the vet for his check-up this weekend, and he's gotten a little fat. not like this, but the vet said we need to have him play more. he won't play. he won't do anything. the only thing he'll bat around is air pads and iphone cords. so he only wants apple products. trish: wow. what a fancy cat. i found him behind a dumpster. i have no idea where he gets this idea. trish: he's getting used to the good life. >> i know. we were talking about this. trish: maybe. do you like scary movies? >> i love scary movies, i don't do haunted houses. trish: i don't like either, is so i don't know who would actually do this, but i don't even like saying this, the picture of haunted houses. this haunted house is offering
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20 grand if you go there and actually manage to escape because, apparently -- >> no one's done it. listen, the last time i ever set foot in a haunted house was 15 years ago. i was in high school. i was with my friend britney. within minutes, i was so scared. she could walk for me while i cried into her hair. so i don't think i could do this for 20 grand. i don't think i could to do this for 20 million. trish: and they give you a safe word. >> they give you a 40-page waiver. i'm convinced they're trying to murder these people because i don't know what else would be necessary. trish: yeah. , no i wouldn't want to do it. >> no. i don't get it. i don't understand the haunted house thing. you pay money for people to harass you -- trish: wait a second, i with can get that on the streets of new york city. [laughter] lastly, a new study revealing that not washing your hands may actually be more dangerous than
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eating raw meat. this is like our public service announcement. >> yeah, wash your hands, you sickos. honestly, if eating raw meat is wrong, i don't want to be right. i don't get the not washing your hands after you go to the bathroom. you don't have to go into the woods and find a stream for water. the faucet's right there. cold and flu season is upon us. you should want to watch your hands anyway. trish: you sure you don't have kids? >> i don't have kids. i have a cat. trish: it's a good mom message. that's ooh our public service message for the week, everybody. wash your hands. >> i would be a great mom. everyone says that. trish: good to see you. all right. with we've got a lot more next week. doug wead, who's out with some headlines of his own in a brand new book and, apparently, the president told him he thinks that president obama has committed treason. as it relates to all this fisa stuff. so we are going to talk to doug wead next tuesday.
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in the meantime, maria bartiromo joins you right now for her "wall street week" beginning right now. i'll see you monday. have a good one, everyone. ♪ ♪ >> from the fox studios in new york city, this is maria bartiromo's "wall street." maria: happy weekend, everybody. welcome to program that analyzes the week that was and helps position you for the week ahead. i'm maria bartiromo. my one-on-one with sales force founder marc benioff, we're talking about technology regulation potential, what he sees as the new need for the new capitalism and the dangers he sees in social media. later on my exclusive interview with the executive chairman of the santander group, ana botin. but first, joining me right tow to the pro -- preview a


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