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right now with "fox & friends." >> good morning, everyone. today is monday july 7th. we begin with a fox news alert a jumbo jell carrying more than 300 passengers crashes on a san francisco runway killing two people, critically injuring dozens more. the ntsb has arrived and we have the latest. it's considered one of the safest airlines in the world and chances are you've flown on one. what do we know and more importantly, how did passengers escape.
we'll have details. >> passengers are sharing their stories of survival with us. >> for myself, i was hurting but not too bad. i opened the door. >> straight ahead, eyewitnesses share what they saw. more on that. "fox & friends" begins right now. everyone. we begin today with a news alert. we're following the horror on the runway in san francisco asiana airlines flight carrying 307 people crash landed. >> this morning two people from china are dead, 182 hurt, several in critical condition in area hospitals. the crash was witnessed by people all around the san francisco bay. >> the minutes that followed that crash were chaotic and frantic, as you can imagine.
firefighters rush to the scene and passengers and witnesses describe the terrifying moment. >> international airport on a plane 777. >> we've got a large plane well involved in fire. >> all of a sudden as you got right up to the runway we heard a loud boom. >> the tail was very low. when it hit, sparks flew. >> it came in like this. i was just watching the wheels and it hit like that. the whole thing just collapsed. >> we realized something had gone wrong. something terrible had happened. >> for myself, i was hurting but not too bad. i just opened the door. i told people, we're okay. calm down. start getting out. help each other. >> the chutes had already been deployed. we observed multiple numbers of people coming down the chutes and actually walking to their safety. >> starting with the most acutely ill, the most critical, some of them had burns.
they had fractures. also head injuries. >> my hat is off to the men and women that literally assisted people off the plane. went into the cabin of the plane to do what they could, that is to protect lives. >> ntsb investigators arrived on the scene early this morning. they started combing the wreckage for answers to what happened. we should learn more about the victims. adam housley live at san francisco international airport this morning with the very latest. adam. >> reporter: this morning ntsb is on the scene. they got here, we're told, about 12 hours or so after the crash. the crash happened at 11:30 in the morning on saturday. investigators will be here throughout the early morning hours and most of the day. we do not know when they will wrap their investigation up. we do know the two runways directly adjacent to the crash site will remain closed. two other runways have reopened, which is allowing some flights to coin and come out. there are thousands of
passengers that had flights rerouted, canceled or postponed. there are a lot still at the airport and others filled nearby hotels. as for the crash it receives, 307 people on the plane, two dead, as you mentioned. there are still a number in area hospitals. we have not got the specific number yet because there are nine different hospitals treating people here. some are in critical condition. many we're told are more superficial injuries. there might be some with internal injuries, too, because we're told the two bowdens the plane took. it hit the "ellen" of the jetty. you fly into san francisco airport, you come over the water south generally, especially overseas or southern california. you came right up through the south bay. basically on the left side of the plane you would see the peninsula, right side you would see the bay. you come in, it hits the jetty basically where the bay ended and runway began. here is what it was like for someone on the plane as it hit the jetty, came down twice,
bounced and broke up. listen. >> your head in slow motion. you don't know if you're going to be dead at the end of the slow motion or not. and the plane stopped. the person to my left had an injury on his head but he was still conscious. and for myself, i was hurting but not too bad, so i just opened the door. the plane was cracked on the inside. we managed to open the door. there were no slides. i could see debris. but a piece of the wing, step on this and go down further. so i just told people, we're okay. calm down. >> reporter: the pilots we talk to that fly into san francisco said that plane should have been 150 feet pof where it hit when it came in.
it should have been higher. obviously it was coming low. they will try to decide why it was low. was it human error or mechanical. there are three fire stations at san francisco international airport. they all responded within two minutes. some were flown out, others driven out, others went to the hospital when they found out they had injuries they didn't know about. really the factor here was the fact that two people died in this plane, a horrible tragedy for their families and those injured but also remarkable when you consider how many people were on board, how quickly they got off. when you see that wreckage on the runway or off the runway here at sfo. back to you guys in new york. >> adam, when you look at those pictures of the crash, a lot of people wondering how, in fact, did those people manage to get out of this aircraft. for miles people could see this fireball sitting on the runway. we were able to talk to different passengers there. how do they describe getting out of this aircraft? >> you know, it's interesting you mention that, clayton.
one of the pilots i spoke to, watching all this coverage. i know them really well. talking about a couple of things. jet fuel isn't as flammable as gasoline. that allows you more time, buys you more time than years ago. while it takes a long time to get on and off of the plane. when we're in the back, seems like it takes forever. when you have a situation like this and all the doors open, you can get people off the plane, if there are not a lot of injuries on board, can you get them off in a minute or two. you can get to exit. it's that important to pay attention to where it is, because it's that much faster for you to get off the plane and much more normal as it's going to be, helps in that respect. where sfo sits south of the city on the peninsula, san bruno, right where i'm looking, they over look the airport. there are a lot of restaurants, hotels, you can see the planes coming in.
even candlestick park you can see the planes coming in. it's an area you can see the landing of the plane. there's so many witnesses because of that, peace it even more interesting to get the accounts of what people have seen. so many different people are saying this plane bounced twice. the way it came down, just remarkable there weren't more people injured. >> absolutely. adam, i know obviously we don't know what went wrong yet. from the accounts on the ground, does it seem like the plane was in distress before it hit the seawall? or was that a miscalculation, it hit the seawall and then crashed. >> a couple of different people telling us different things. if you have a witness, you and i see a crash, we see it differently. they are saying different things of one, the landing gear hit the jetty. we've seen that from the pictures that happened. either that happened first or some people are saying that the plane was trying to go back up and the tail came down causing the landing gear to hit. when you talk to pilots, there's a number of reasons for that. everything from there could have
been a stall or pilot error. that's what ntsb will have to figure out. what we can't tell for sure, alison, hit the jetty. i can tell you from flying into sfo my whole life, you fly, look down, think are we going to hit the water and you come in and hit the runway. >> some passengers describing seeing the water 10 feet away. >> what do we know about how the two passengers were killed? were they pulled out of the plane when the tail came off? do we have any idea? >> we don't know. their bodies were found outside. a couple of bodies on the radio talking about there's people with internal injuries. they didn't realize at first. felt adrenaline going. as for those two passengers, tucker, we don't know. we do know they were found outside the plane. >> adam housley live at sfo, an airport he knows well working through the night for details. we'll check back with you.
>> what we know about this plane, 777, triple 7, state-of-the-art boeing, considered one of the safest planes to buy, relatively fuel efficient and built for long distances. this was a 10-plus hour flight from seoul. in general, it has an excellent safety record. >> pretty much perfect safety record, about 1100 777s throughout the world. there have been a total of two fatalities on a 777, both yesterday at sfo. this is a remarkably safe workhorse of a plane, designed to replace 747 and it's done a great job. >> it has 300 to 380 seats, can fly 16 to 19 hours. we know this flight was a very long flight coming in from shanghai. a very long flight. you can see the layout of the plane here, from the front to the back on this asiana flight 214. you bring up a point of a near
perfect record. >> it has had crashes. >> a crash from heathrow, coming in from beijing. has odd similarities. it crashed as it was approaching the runway. they were able to determine a few months later after the investigation there was ice blockage in the fuel line that led to that crash. we don't yet know and the asiana ceo said there were no mechanical problems with the flight. we don't know why the crash happened so close to the runway as did the one five years ago. >> they always said take off and landing the most dangerous time of the flight. i must say, when you're flying and 10 seconds away from landing, you think you're in the clear. that's the moment you're exhali exhaling, saying, okay.
>> the tape went on, hit the sear the plane crashed the tape went on in the cabin saying we have landed safely, please keep your seat belt on, which was jarring. >> lets bring in rick to tell us what the weather was like in san francisco at this time. >> really no big problems in san francisco at the time. a few different kinds of turbulence you look on this, one is a micro burst. you have a thunderstorm, a big downdraft of air, potentially in an isolated area can cause unexpected turbulence. that was not the case yesterday. no thunderstorms at all in the air. there's clear air turbulence also. that's where the jet stream winds are moving very strongly. that can cause turbulence. lower levels mountain turbulence, hills to the west of sfo, mountains toward the east. there aren't any indications there was any of that going on. temperatures were fine, 65 degrees. no incredible heat that would have been a problem.
mostly clear skies skies, wind out of the west at 8 miles an hour. here, no visibility issues. sometimes in san francisco that can be the case. here, images we've seen, very sunny skies, visibility was 10 miles. that was good. also looking at nice weather the next few days. i have to tell you no rain moving in to hamper investigation. looking pretty good the next few days. >> an odd perfect day for san francisco. >> especially this time of year. >> thanks, rick. >> recordings released from air traffic control moments before this crash. >> the voices sound entirely calm for a disaster. what was going on in the cockpit? a former air traffic control fedex. how the crew and emergency responders got everyone off the burning plane.
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>> all right. you are listening there to what the air traffic control tower sounded like seconds after asiana flight 214 crashed in san francisco. >> the audio filmed shortly before the crash. they don't sound rattled at all, air traffic controllers don't. what happened next. former air traffic controller joins us this morning. thanks for waking up here this morning. >> good morning. >> what was going on in those moments and it seems as if they weren't rattled at all? >> i think they were probably in shock. i mean, when they get the bang that tore the gear off and the engine, was probably so intense and so surprising to them, they had just spun the airport around, i'm sure they were
completely dazed and had no idea what the situation was at that point. >> robert, we understand the pilot should be approaching san francisco international airport at 500 feet per minute coming down at that level, but these guys were coming down at 1400 feet a minute. what does that tell you? >> well, it is a little unusual they were coming down -- that's the vertical rate they are falling toward the runway. it's a controlled fall. again, the one thing we're not completely positive of is how long they kept that rate up. the point is they undershot the runway is what we would call it, which means they landed short. they landed way short. they should have been touching down way further down the runway. the question is why. was it because they weren't paying attention, they were distracted by something, or could something have failed? if they had a power plant
problem like that airport in heathrow a few years ago with all the drag out there, they would never have been able to -- it would have been a challenge to get it to the runway at that point. >> we heard from the ceo of asiana air saying there was no mechanical failure. passengers describing -- you've flown one, i think we all have. you know that last few moments over the water. passengers said they saw the water, looked like it was only 10 feet away from them. >> that's probably because that's about all they did have between them. again, i've talked to a couple of my buddies over the last 24 hours. we're all trying to figure out the same thing. when you're on a visual approach to any runway like that, you have a certain view of the runway. you know what it's supposed to look like. it's pretty easy to figure out when you're low, when you're high, and when you're right in the ballpark. how these guys could have been this low and not noticed this is
really impossible for us to tell. that again makes us think there was something else going on. >> when you're landing a plane, is the plane landing itself, or are pilots actually in control of doing it? is there some sort of automatic landing system that the plane does, or are these pilots really controlling it? >> there is an instrument landing system that is tied to the auto land function on some of these airplanes. the ils service was out of service to san francisco, and it's been out for a while. they were using another kind of approach system. even then, the last 100, 200 feet they are normally flying that manually. >> robert, a pilot and former air traffic controller, great expertise. he'll join us later in the show as we see more of this investigation unfolding of thanks, robert. >> more on breaking news, ntsb investigators are on the ground in san francisco. they are arriving and looking
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passengers on incoming flight to san francisco. >> one woman behind the flight 214 spoke with "fox & friends" first co-host about it. >> it was really surreal. i was in shock when i first saw it. >> you were about a quarter of a mile away from the plane on board another plane. we're looking at your picture. >> yeah. i was on the little plane coming
from fresno into san francisco. we landed. we were the last plane to land right before this one. we hit a little turbulence right before we landed, which jolted the plane down to the left pretty bad but our pilot corrected it right before we hit the ground, then they had to compensate by slamming on the brakes pretty aggressively. then we turned perpendicularly to the strip between the two runways and stopped for this plane to come in and this is the plane that went down. >> that's interesting that you mention the turbulence coming down, margaret. we heard the weather was clear. did the pilot say anything about the turbulence. sometimes he comes over and says make sure you stay buckled up, we have turbulence ahead.
did you hear anything like that? >> no. after we landed, we were kind of shooken up from our landing which wasn't the smoothest. our pilot didn't say anything. it was coming so fast at us, i was hoping our pilot wouldn't stop the plane. i thought the plane was going to crash into us. >> we've heard other witnesses talk about the angle of the plane. what about the angle of the plane itself. did it psalm odd, sharply directed toward the runway itself or away from the runway itself? >> i didn't see too much of the angle because i was on the back side, but i saw -- it did go off the runway into the dirt, so i'm assuming it was to the right a little ways. no, i didn't see too much. >> nothing but the angle. but did appear extremely fast? >> i saw it hit the ground. >> did you hear anything? we heard reports of a possible explosion. did you hear anything that
sounded like that? >> when it hit, i thought it hit more towards the center and the back and almost bounced. but then to the left i saw an engine fly over into the center divider where the grass is. >> margaret, that would explain the missing engine. we've all been talking about that wondering where the engine went. you saw the plane kind of bounce, hit on the back end and the engine fly off. where did it go? >> it went to the center divider in between where the two runways are parallel to each other. we had a pilot, off duty, not commercial but personal. he said the engine just blew up. he said that was an engine. >> looking at the scene of the asiana plane crash. it could have been much worse.
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francisco. two people from china were killed when the asiana airline flight crashed on the runway in san francisco. more than 182 people were hurt. ntsb is on the scene this morning. they are combing through the wreckage and looking for answers. >> adam housley is live at san francisco international airport with more on that. they arrived, adam, i guess ntsb got there after midnight local time. any indication they found anything of use this hour? >> they are out there right now, lights are on, spotlights on on part of the fuselage. they aren't going to give us any updates this hour. they are looking at things from this video. they are going to be interviewing people as well as seeing how this thing ended up, going through it piece by piece before they take it away from here, then those two runways will be reopened. we are getting news this morning that helps clarify the two victims. 307 people on that asiana flight that crash landed here at 11:30
a.m. yesterday morning. two people were know died. we were told they were chinese nationals. the chinese consulate in san francisco, there's a huge, huge chinese community here and has been for generations. chinese consulate came out and said they were two teenager girls from china that were found, their bodies found outside the plane. we don't know how they died, just that their bodies were found outside the plane. will told a number of people in critical condition in a variety of hospitals. we know nine different hospitals as far as stanford, 50 miles south of san francisco, 15 miles to our north received patients over the course of several hours. some were flown out of here, others driven to area hospitals. some people didn't go right away. they didn't start feeling injuries until later on. one doctor was talking about how this people may have internal injuries from the crash, the stop, the double bounce that plane took once it hit the ground. the investigation really comes
back to ntsb investigators look at the crash site and look where that plane first hit. was it pilot error or the plane mechanical malfunction. what they do know for sure the landing gear hit the edge of that jetty. as we spoke about earlier this hour, there are a lot of people in the hills at sfo, look down and watch planes coming in. it's one of the selling features to their homes. there were a lot of people that saw that plane coming in low. a pilot i spoke to today told me that plane should be 50 to 100 feet higher coming in on that runway when it did. it didn't come in that high. some reports its tail might hit as well. that will all come out as the investigation goes forward. guys. >> adam housley live in san francisco with the very latest on that investigation. we'll have more with adam in just a moment. >> thanks, adam. great recap. >> lucky there has not been a
greater loss of life. my hat off to men and women that assisted people off the plane, went into the cabin of the plane, to do what thebd and that is protect lives. >> officials, even the president are congratulating first responders in san francisco for a job well done. all but two on board survived this horrific crash. >> joining us with insight is kenneth, certified emergency manager, former port authority police officer at jfk and laguardia airport in new york. they have similar approaches. he's also the father of one of our -- ken, great to have you here. >> thank you. >> when you first get the call a plane has crash landed at an airport, what do you do? >> emergency responders at the airport are trained and required to get to the midpoint of the furthest runway in less than three minutes. the first truck on the scene will begin dispensing firefighting products. they are looking to protect
emergency aircrafts. >> foam, spraying foam? >> yes. they would use foam, sometimes dry chemical fire depending on the fire and how big it is. >> we know the crew seemed to be -- we don't know but seems the crew was okay. you say the initial reaction would be from the crew to try to marshall everyone off the aircraft, get to the exits. >> primarily job of flight attendants on the aircraft is not necessarily to serve food but get people off the airplane in case of an emergency. they are trained to evacuate all the passengers on a fully loaded aircraft in less than 90 seconds if only half the doors are available. thattes what it appears here. i see only four slides, five of the eight doors used. >> you said airplanes are different now, improvements made to the physical structure of the plane to make them safer. >> absolutely. every airplane crash is a learning lab. investigators from ntsb and airlines and aircraft
manufacturers will look at what happened, how people were injured or killed and look to improve things. things as better locks on the seats, more fire resistant material on the seat cushions. >> the initial report suggests there were two girls who were killed in this, two people we know died in this crash. we understand they may have been born around 1996, '97. we believe at the moment they were chinese. does this tell you the tail piece broke off. does this tell you they were sitting in the back of the plane? >> no, doesn't tell you where they were. they were outside the airplane where they found the bodies, according to the news reports i've seen. there are stories about what would be the safest part of the airplane. very often it doesn't really matter where you're sitting. >> you talk about the triage. this is fascinating to me, too. they begin to triage immediately. they start to label people almost immediately to get them
out of this burning aircraft. what do they do? >> they come up on the people and do a very quick 10-second survey. is the person breathing? do they appear to have any breathing and broken bones. they will tag them. the tags are cardboard tags with a string around or rubber band they can put on a person's wrist or ankle and they have tear offs on the bottom. people are categorized as green, yellow, red or black. green is someone with a minor injury, usually what we call walking wounded. somebody that can walk in, doesn't need immediate attention. someone with yellow, more serious injury, they need medical care. someone red critical condition, needs immediate lifesaving. someone with a black tag is someone who is deceased, not likely to survive. they would be the last and likely left in place. >> you said it doesn't matter where you sit on a plane. what advice would you give to air travelers when they sit down, situational awareness, should they count rows from an
exit? >> pay attention to what the flight attendant says, no matter how many times you fly. every plane is different. take a look around, the nearest exit may be behind you. look for a second exit. that exit may be blocked. count the number of rows between where you're sitting and that exit either before or behind you so if the aircraft is dark, if you can't see what's going on because of smoke, you can count seat backs. when you're flying in an airplane wearing cotton clothing, not polyester. if there's a fire, cotton won't melt, polyester might. wear long pants, long sleeved shirt. be aware of your surroundings. under no circumstances get your pocket bag or laptop bag. >> what happens to other aircraft. flights are coming in right after, one after the other. what immediately happens to stop them. all these flights had to be diverted. how do they do that? >> control tower will start
giving direction to aircraft on final approach. go around. phraseology. they will things if runways are closed, this is where we send people. regional center will notify they are going to be getting incoming flights. >> thanks so much for your expertise. it's nice to talk to you this morning and get a little bit of a feeling of control back. when you're a passenger you can have so much anxiety and knowing what to do helps a little bit. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> lets check in for a look at what the conditions were like in san francisco at the time. not normal circumstances there, right? >> yeah, in a good way. normally this time of year, that heavy fog layer, especially in the morning, but it all cleared out at the time. the few kinds of turbulence they would be looking at to see if that could possibly be turbulence that caused a problem would be a micro burst, a
thunderstorm that would have a quick outflow of wind that would move across the ground. there weren't any thunderstorms anywhere in the area. they can rule that out. there's air turbulence. that's where your flying, everything is clear, you feel that turbulence. jet stream winds causing turbulence. that's higher up in the elevation. mountain tesh liens would be potentially something here. mountains off to the west and mountains off to the east from the san francisco airport. you generally end up with a little bit of clear air turbulence. what we also know is that the winds were light at around 8 miles an hour. temps 65, mostly cloudy skies, visibility 10 miles. so it appears at least at a quick glance that the weather was not a factor in any significant way for this. guys. >> rick, thanks so much. there is other news to get to. let me get to your headlines right now. this is new overnight. chaos continues in egypt over just who is expected to lead now.
nobel peace to win. john mccain calling for u.s. to stop giving aid to egypt. >> we cannot set a precedent, which frankly -- or let me put it this way. we cannot repeat the same mistakes we made at other times in our history by supporting the removal of freely elected governments. >> mccain also said egyptian military needs to set a timetable for elections and a new constitution. libya has just become the third country to offer asylum to edward snowden. you may remember there was a plane carrying the president, it was rerouted to vienna this week because it was suspected snowden was on board.
morales said asylum offer was payback for that incident. snowden asked for asylum in more than 20 countries. venezuela and nicaragua were the only other countries to say yes thus far. also new overnight, a tornado relief concert in oklahoma quickly turned dangerous. country stars garth brook and toby keith, a benefit concert to raise money for those affected by the deadly tornado. temperatures reached mid-90s, 21 people suffered severe heat exhaustion and rushed to hospitals. concert officials said nearly 1300 others were brought to nearby cooling stations. those are your headlines. coming up next on the show, we just told you violent protest raging on in egypt. the white house staying neutral on this. is that the right direction? >> we continue to bring latest developments out of san francisco including emotional stories of survival.
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rage following the ousting of president mohamed morsi and the radical reign of the muslim brotherhood. president obama keeping a neutral position, advised obama on egypt, quote, we've managed now to alienate both sides. gunnery sergeant joins us to weigh in on this. thanks for joining us. is the president, the white house trying to have it both ways on this? >> well, it certainly appears so, because they are a big part of the result of this problem, our ambassador ann patterson was having a lot of protests against her while in egypt because of the standing the u.s. had. it looked like we were not supporting democracy or secular government. egyptian people furious for not
supporting freedom or muslim brotherhood. now the u.s. is in a position, do we call this a military coup or support the democracy the military is trying to put in place. >> military coup, if such a thing occurs, we are not able to give them any more money. certainly we give them upwards to $2 billion a year. according to the law if there's a military coup or coup of any kind money is cut off. we're in a pickle. >> yes, we are. general assisi who stated very clearly, he's with the egyptian army this is not a military coup. general dempsey, our chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has warned him to make sure this doesn't appear to be a military coup. what is now going on, they are assuring us they are going to put elections in place quickly. they are ensuring the current president they put in, the interim president is making sure they invite the muslim brotherhood to the table.
people have understand muslim brotherhood has been around numerous years, despite numerous egyptian governments over a long period of time, they will not go down easily. they will fight this at the ballot box or use weapons. >> and we know they are being rounded up by the hundreds throwing them in prison, when the white house asked them not to do so because tensions are on the rise, yet they are sitting in prison. after you're thrown in do you want to come to the negotiating table? >> i don't think they are handling the best way possible. at the same time they are trying not to have the coup in the streets cause a lot of deaths. islamists accused of causing bombings with pipelines, christians attacked. there are people concerned they must stifle the uprising so it doesn't cause a civil war. >> mohammed elbaradei put in place, strict opponent of mohamed morsi. this is a sign they are not
going to move towards the muslim brotherhood at all. how shoot white house respond to that move, if any? >> right now, mohammed elbaradei is not going to necessarily be in charge. there was disturbance among the people with that selection. what they have to do is find an interim person they feel most comfortable w however, the obama administration has been on the fence with this so often. having john kerry out on a boat when this uprising is occurring has not set a good precedent for this. the united states has a responsibility of looking at this funding. the military in egypt has been one of our strongest allies since 1979. that is very important for us with our israeli friends and allies in the region. we must protect the suez canal. before we go stopping the funding senator mccain wants us to do, we have to look at the ramifications. >> see where the white house comes down on this elbaradei
move. >> great expertise this morning, we appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> coming up on the show, you may remember him as the pilot behind mire kell on the hudson, captain sully sullenberger. why he thinks the san francisco layout could have played a role in the flight 214 crash. despite the disaster, many claim flying remains one of the safest ways to travel. coming up, the reason you should not be scared the next time you fly. ♪ it was the best day whoo! yes! ♪ it was the best day ♪ ♪ it was the best day yeah! ♪ it was the best day ♪ecause of yo [sigh] [echoing] we make a great pair. huh? progressive and the great outdoors -- we make a great pair. right, totally, uh... that's what i was thinking.
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these worries often get worse. so how can you overcome your fear of flying. psychotherapist robi ludwig joins us. thank you for joining us. >> nice to be here. >> i'm a nervous flyer, i confess. i know all the stats. i know flying is safer than driving. >> you fly? >> i fly but it is the a bit of a white knuckle experience for me. in part if something goes wrong, it seems so catastrophic? >> look at this situation. there have been flights that crashed where people survived. the numbers are really on your side. i think what people worry about is they are not really in control. you're not flying the plane. you're driving your car. you're driving a boat. >> that's exactly right. you have to put your life in the hands of a stranger. so what are you supposed to be telling yourself when you're nervous on a plane? >> i think you think about the numbers. it is the safest way to get from one place to another.
the best way to experience the most of life in terms of wanting to travel. it's a lot of self-taught. you are putting your hands in a safe industry. i was just talking to a pilot back stage who was saying he loves flying. tee a lot of pride in all the training he had. these crews are trained. when you're on a train, you can remind yourself, there are people there who can help comfort you and help give you a ride from one place to another. >> tips for flyers like me. recognize the major source of your fear? >> which is not that your unsafe but you feel not in control. that lack of control can take on a life of its own. listen, it's human nature. we fear heights. we can fear the dark. we can fear flying over water. that is part of us being in life, we're afraid of things that don't feel comfortable. >> you're saying if you acknowledge that, write down
your fears. >> get in touch with inner wisdom. write down, i'm afraid of flying. then can you write down, you're safe. can you get from one place to another. think what you have to look forward to when you get to your destination. there is that inner wisdom in there that you can access when you're writing it down. then visualize. >> this the third tip. visualize yourself taking off and landing safely. i do this sort of innately but i don't know why it's helpful. >> you're training your body for a positive outcome. that's very comforting. a lot of what goes on in our body is based on what we're thinking in our minds. what i do tell patients, too, those things that work, people that are anxious, i write them notes. they can travel with a dog. in some cases there are medications that work. there are a the lot of options for people. you shouldn't go through it paralyzed. >> thank you very much. very helpful to have you here.
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i'm alison camerota. we start with a news alert, the arab crash in san francisco claiming the lives of two passengers and injuring dozens more. ntsb investigators immediately dispatched to san francisco, of course, hoping to get to the bottom of what happened yesterday. >> and amid tragedy stories of survival. >> in your head, slow motion, you don't know what's going to be happening. you don't know if you're going to be dead at the end or not. >> a woman whose father was on the flight joins us with details how he escaped the disaster moments after it happened. second hour of "fox & friends" starts right now. good morning, everyone. if you're just waking up, we have to tell you about our top
story. fox news alert, of course. horror on the runway in san francisco. a plane carrying 300 people has crash landed. two people are dead. here is what we know. >> asiana airlines flight 214 left at 4:35 p.m. local time from south korea. there were 307 people on board at the time including 61 americans, 16 crew members. ten hours later at 11:30 a.m. pacific time the plane crashed while landing at san francisco international airport. >> emergency crews were there immediately within moments. passengers say the entire incident lasted only about 10 seconds. there were very few clouds in the sky that day and light winds about 7 miles an hour. all flights in and out of sfo were immediately suspended. >> after local time ntsb announced sending their go team. at 10:30 wo runways reopened. 4:00 p.m. local time, authorities confirmed two people
from china were killed. we believe they were young women. their bodies were found outside of the plane. >> about three hours later police confirmed everyone on board was accounted for. overnight asiana airlines said engine failure was not to blame. so mechanical problems, we're not sure. we don't believe that happened. right now, 182 people were hurt, dozens remain hospitalized. at least six in critical condition. a team of investigators also arriving overnight. they are already on the scene there. >> at this time investigators are ruling out terrorism apparently. >> south korean officials say two veteran pilots were flying this plane when this happened. investigators will talk to them and continue scouring the wreckage for just what happened at this crash. adam housley live at san francisco airport with more. good morning again, adam. >> reporter: good morning, guys. actually we have a lot of new information for you. in the last half hour we've learned a number of things.
the chinese consulate are saying the two victims were 16 years old girls from china. that's from the consulate this morning in san francisco. of course, there's a very large chinese community here. i've just spoken with the ntsb in person. they are telling me a number of things. first of all, they did get a chance to get out there. they had spotlights on the plane. got preliminary information and investigators have since gone back to their hotel to get a couple hours of rest before they get up again, get going full bore when the sun comes up. a better chance to look at the debris field. we foresee from the aerial video from earlier yesterday evening. that debris field will be long. it will be a number of days before they believe it will be cleared up. san francisco international airport will probably not be back to normal for a week. they believe they will have a chance to get their investigation at least completed here by then. the fuselage moved, the debris field all cleaned up but it
likely will be that way for a week. take a listen also to the chaotic scene, the chaotic stuff coming in over the scanner. this happened in a matter of minutes. within three minutes, san francisco fire stations responded to this plane going down. there was no warning. they didn't know the plane was having a problem or distress call according to them. take a look at scanner traffic. >> approaching north field checkpoint. i've got what appears to be a moderate column of smoke coming from a downed plane. make this a red alert, please. make this a red alert. >> we've got a large plane well involved in fire. airport units are flying foam. we've got a number of people that are out, off of the plane. >> reporter: we also know there are a number of people in area hospitals, nine different hospitals of a 30-mile range, all took in patients from this
crash. make were flown out via helicopter, others went later when they found -- started having issues, health issues at a later time. we know a number of those people are will in critical condition. one more note, too. i talked to ntsb as i mentioned, and they said this could be a week here. they may also be going to korea. they say today they expect to have a preliminary press conference, 2:00 local time, 5:00 eastern. they want to come out with basic information they have already gathered. we'll have a chance to get more information from them. when i spoke to them they didn't say off the record or on the record without using their name. it is very clear the plane did hit that jetty, as you see from the video, obviously that was struck by the very least the landing gear and potentially the tail as well. the investigator said to me the tail is pretty much gone, guys. >> look at those pictures there. adam housley reporting live from san francisco international airport bringing us great new information this morning.
meanwhile, you see this terrain there. it's a unique airport. according to the hero of the hudson, captain sully sullenberger, he says this particular airport has unique terrain as you approach it. >> lets listen to sully. >> he says the faa classified it as a special airport, along with other airports worldwide that involve mountainous terrain or other special challenges. it is surrounded by water. a featureless terrain where depth perception can be difficult. there are shifting winds, low visibilities. there are several things that make it special. high terrain just passed it. high terrain contributing very often to five minutes of approached turbulence. reporting nary a cloud particul. not the typical fog you see in san francisco. >> visibility is a question at sfo. in 1968 there was a japan airliner, boeing plane that missed the runway about three miles and landed in the bay. very famously, all passengers
got off safe. i don't think there were any injuries at all. but the pilot later described the confusion that he had, obviously, because of the combination of fog and water. >> depth perception stood out to me, depth perception issues. >> we've all been on planes you approach over water, logan, jfk national. there is a while where you think, i wonder what's going to happen here. the next guest on the phone said her father was a passenger arriving from south korea and has been flying 30 years. considered a million miler in terms of frequent flyer miles on asiana. he boarded 214 like he would any other. he told his daughter he had a gut feeling the plane's landing would not be a smooth one. eunice joins us live on the phone. good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> i'm well. tell us how your father
described the landing to you. >> when i initially talked with him about what happened, he was just describing how he immediately knew. he said he knew something was wrong. before the plane hit impact on the ground, he said he braved himself, grabbed onto his chair and, you know, just kind of prepared himself for an impact landing. he said he knew that it was too low. so yeah. >> eunice, you said he had a premi premonition, it would be happen. >> he had throne so many times before he looked out the window, when he saw how low the plane was flying, he just knew. it wasn't a feeling, he just
knew. >> how did he get off the flight? >> he hit his jaw against the armchair between the seats. he couldn't move for a while. he's better now. he can obviously move his jaw. he's very sore. he's perfectly fine compared to the critical condition of other passengers. >> do you know where he was sitting and do you know how he said he got off? >> ironically he was supposed to be toward the middle and back of the plane. at the very last minute before he boarded, asiana put him up first three rows, business class. this particular flight does not have first class area but they brought him up to business class. so he would be able to be towards the front three rows of the plane. >> did he mention any wind? we heard a description of a woman who flew on a plane
yesterday. she said there were wind gusts yesterday. did your father say anything about that? >> he didn't say anything about wind. it would have been hard to tell being inside the plane. i have outside all day. it was clear blue skies. it was actually quite hot. i got a little sun burned on my neck just from being outside. >> one thing before we let you go, we've heard from other passengers in some reports they didn't notice anything was wrong. there was nothing at all wrong. your father had done this 30 years. he was recognizing this pt as they were coming in, did he describe anything out of the ordinary other than it being low? any sudden drop or anything? >> as soon as he started to notice they were coming down low, he said he knew that the pilot tried to abort the landing by lifting the plane up at the very last minute. but obviously the plane wasn't able to lift up once they came in too low.
that's when they actually hit, you know, first. the plane had tilted once it land. he doesn't recall whether it spun or not. it took some time before it came to a full stop. >> fass nalgt. the pilot tried to abort and pull up and make another go of it. >> eunice, thanks so much. sounds like your father will be an important source for investigators as they try to figure out what went wrong here. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. thank you. >> that goes for other passengers, they felt the pilot trying to overcorrect or correct coming in too low. amazing information this morning. stay with us, more information for you. lets get to headlines. moments ago we learned two more people died from a new respiratory virus related to sars. the latest death in riyadh, saudi arabia, brings the total
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welcome back. so what could have been going on in the dock pot in those final moments. we'll take a look with j.p. >> cultural differences of the pilot and first officer on flights. korea airlines banned from united states because the first officer didn't feel they could communicate with the captain in those final moments on approach or takeoff, there was some sort of cultural difference that kept them from acknowledging something was going wrong. do you think something could have happened in the final moments, if the first officer saw something was too low, why the pilot didn't correct it. >> korean airlines was banned because of the difficulties of
the pilot not flying. it was generally the copilot. not being able to correct his superior. it was almost that in a cultural society. age is venerated, regarded. the captain has a high level of sociabilities or what he's perceived at. many captains were former fighter pilots, doesn't get more than that in any society. >> these were veteran pilots. it's kind of hard to go up against a veteran and say you might see something wrong. what could have happened in the final moments? seems like it was a flight that was mundane. very few clouds in the sky, very little wind. pretty much nothing, no problems. why would they have come in so low? >> you can't avoid the possibility of sudden incapacitation of the individual flying. who was flying, the pilot in
command, the captain or another captain flying as the copilot or the normal first officer. that approach started 23 miles out, and it's a 23-mile run and 3 degree slope, touchdown is 1,000 feet down the runway. that underrun is 300 feet. in essence, when they struck that barrier, that seawall they were 1300 feet from their touchdown point. on that 3 degree glide path, she should have been about 150, 250 feet above the ground at that point. >> are there any stopgap measures in place? we talked about the first officer, somebody else in the cockpit saying, something is up here. what about air traffic control here. when they see something approaching, is it out of the ordinary to come in that low? >> it is out of the ordinary, they have them on the radar. basically speaking the pilot not flying the aircraft is there for one reason and one reason alone,
he's the safety pilot. it's his responsibility,ibilitiability to cross-check the pilot flying the aircraft and bring to his attention immediately everything that is not procedural. when you're flying low and below the glide slope and your altimeter is not responding, a mile out, 600 feet. that pilot not flying had an obligation to immediately inform him. therefore, that voice recorder is going to be very important to what was being said or not said by the pilot that was not flying the aircraft. >> could be very interesting what was not said. >> what was not said could be the entire crux of the matter, because the accident investigation might come out as happened on korean investigations, why didn't you say something. well, he's the captain. he knows everything. >> he's the veteran. >> he is the senior. >> j.p., great insight this morning, former pilot and
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and jailing the owners for failing to comply with their forceful entry. do home owners have a case. >> professor of constitutional law at florida international university. good morning, elizabeth. >> good morning. >> we don't hear much about this third amendment. can you describe how it's relevant in this case? >> sure. the third amendment is sort of the forgotten amendment. i bet most lawyers probably couldn't even tell you what it says. as you said, it says you can't quarter soldiers in someone's house in time of peace unless the owner of the premises consents. so in this particular case you had sort of local police officials asking the. >> mr. mitchell, if they could sort of use his home as sort of a lookout point. they had received some information that his neighbor, mr. mitchell's neighbor was engaging in domestic violence.e little while. so they called mr. mitchell up
in the morning and said, can we use your house to watch this fellow? mr. mitchell said, i really don't want to get involved. they hung up the phone. a couple hours later a whole posse of police showed up at mr. mitchell's door, banged on his door, ordered it to open. he freaked out. when he didn't open immediately, they used a battering ram to enter the premises. they pepper sprayed him. they pepper sprayed his dog and arrested him for obstruction of justice. they took him to the police station. they held him for nine hours during which time they searched his entire house without a warrant and used his house to watch his neighbor. >> that is about the most outrageous story i've ever heard. that's clearly unconstitutional. will they be under the third amendment, which framers thought it important enough to make it three in the line of ten. will they be punished? what is the punishment for
violating someone's third amendment right? >> lets hope they are punished. first of all, off the bat, lets make it clear there's an absolutely clear fourth amendment vials. the fourth amendment says you can't conduct unreasonable searches or seizures of someone's home or papers or effects. this was clearly an unreasonable certainly and seizure of his home because they didn't have warrant. have you to have a warrant to go into somebody else's house. they have to have probable cause there's a crime. clearly he will recover money for a fourth amendment violation. the third amendment, it's not usually used. we don't have this set of outrageous facts, so it's never been litigated or not very often. we don't have any supreme court decision interpreting the scope of the third amendment. we have a lot of unresolved questions in this case. the first most important unanswered question, for example, is can police officers local police officers be
considered soldiers within the meaning of the third amendment. >> sounds like we'll get an education as this case is adjudicated. thanks for coming on to explain to us. egypt continues to unravel as more protests and deaths reported overnight. we have the latest on the unrest there. >> sixteen crew members on the plane that crashed landed at san francisco international airport. what does a crew do with only seconds ontoo react. a former flight attendant who used to fly into sfo is up next with details.
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welcome back to "fox & friends." it is 30 minutes now past the hour. our top story we're following the horrific crash on the runway in san francisco. we've learned there were two victims killed, two teenager girls from china. they are 16 years old. 182 others were also hurt. the ntsb on the scene now searching the wreckage. >> joining us live, san francisco international joined by ntsb chairman deborah hersman. hi, adam. >> hi. mentioned ntsb got here a little more than 12 hours after the crash, they were on site, went out, got a preliminary look at
the crash site, are actually coming out early this morning when the sun comes up. deborah hersman joins us live. you had a chance to see. obviously this is a long investigative process. anything pique your interest at the crash site? >> one of the things startling when you go out and see the crash site up close is the extensive damage. particularly you can see the external damage to the aircraft, the burns and fracturing of the aircraft but internal to the aircraft there's extensive damage on the inside. we're so thankful we have as few fatalities and injuries as we do. >> really remarkable when you hear about people who got off the plane successfully. obviously a long way to go in the investigative process. you'll have a report within a year. a lot of people speculating what could happen. i want you to speculate. what's interesting, looks like that landing gear may have hit that jetty for whatever reason.
>> sure. we will be working to document all of the debris field, the wreckage. the parts of the aircraft that may have come off first. the type of damage, the pattern of damage. most importantly we were able to obtain yesterday we had three investigators here from our california office. they arrived earlier. they got the cockpit voice recorder, flight data recorder and were able to send them out on a red eye back to d.c. we hope our team and lab will read them out today. if the data is good, it will help guide our investigation. >> it will help you put together not only what you see on the ground but i guess what was happening in the cockpit as that happened? >> absolutely. the cockpit gives a sense of the conversation, the workload, what was going on inside the cockpit between the pilot, not just in the moments of the crash but in the minutes and hours before the crash. the flight data recorder has hundreds of parameters on them. those can be extremely valuable. >> obviously good for the
investigation. one final question. you're going to be out here i'm told maybe upwards of a week having to go through the entire process of not only seeing the accident site but eventually having it removed? >> yes. of course our focus right now is on the perishable information. we want to gather that as quickly as possible and get sfo back up to operations. this is a busy airport. we want to clear the runway and debris. we have to do the work correctly. then things like interviews. interviews to witnesses of survivors and crew members. >> appreciate it from ntsb, a long process ahead. good news she mentioned not only after seeing that live, the actual wreckage and how many people made it out alive, how great our first responders did perform yesterday but at the same time how important it is those two black boxes that have now been taken back to washington, d.c. in good condition. guys. >> thanks a lot, adam. more details emerge from a crash at sfo, many are giving credit to the crew on board for
the remarkably high number of sur viflgs. joining us to tell what flight attendants may have done to help is fox business network who used to be a flight attendant. you worked six years at southwest. >> yes. >> tell us about the training. how much training does a flight attendant receive? >> you go through intensive training for situations like this. one or two days on how to serve a cup of coca-cola. the rece is how to save people's lives, which is in a fire, which is what they dealt with here. a crash landing, which they dealt with here. also with no direction from the cockpit. flight attendants initially told people to stay in their seats. they were waiting for the evacuate cue from the pilots. i'm not sure they got it. it will be interesting to see how events played out once we get more details. one flight attendant was injured. this morning we were talking about the fact even if you have a tough impact you'll have overhead bins open.
many times as a flight attendant you hop up and shut that bin immediately. you risk your own safety because you don't want passengers to be hurt. can you imagine the luggage, you know how they pack the overhead bins? spinal injuries. >> we have a number of reports of spinal cord injuries. these are international flights. bins above are huge. it's a giant aircraft. the flight crew in those moments when they have that emergency, what are you looking for among the passengers? assessing who is hurt, where you can marshall people out, opening doors. take us through that process. >> the initial reaction you have, i've only been through one emergency situation at lax, i did deploy flights, they deploy very fast. feels like you're in slow motion when you go through an emergency situation. it amazing 10 seconds feels like a minute in hindsight.
i'm interested to see what flight attendants say about what happened. initially looking around, where are we, assess your surroundings. is there smoke in the cabins? are there people lying on the floor? are exits clear? a lot of exits aren't clear. you saw two, three chutes out of the plane. the fact you got 2, 300 people is amazing. a. b, you're looking out the window and see fire, that's the command i was taught when i was a flight attendant. heads down, stay down, they didn't have that because they didn't know they were going to be having this emergency landing and crash landing. >> there were something like 67 americans on board this asiana flight. you were talking about how it can be complicated by a language barrier. >> all these international crews need to be bilingual. that's part of the requirement to be an international flight attendant. at the same time you have a language barrier. you have people on the plane chinese, korean population and 61 americans.
even if they were bilingual, were they tri-lingual? that means they couldn't communicate. injuries, first responders on the ground trying to communicate with people who don't speak english. all that is frustrating and frightening situation. i have to say my hat is off to the gentleman who opened up the emergency exit door. most people want to sit in the emergency exit for the legroom. those doors are incredibly heavy. they can be 70 pounds. have you to be able to open the door on your own. again, if the flight attendants are incapacitated, it's up to passengers to get themselves out. >> that's real. when they say, can you do this, you have to be able to? >> we're looking at you and making sure you're physically able. if you have a broken arm, you're out of the exit row. if you have a broken foot. if you don't look like you can handle the door, they will move you. people get upset. the truth is, there's a reason behind why they are doing it.
again, going back to what they experience, when smoke started coming into the cabin, i'm sure flight attendants immediately, more than us they got cockpit directions, they were saying we're getting out now. they probably started right away. >> good to have you. >> i'll be happy to come back and talk about the calls. >> thanks for being with us. >> lets check in with rick for a look at the forecast. rick, are we checking the conditions in the rest of the country? >> not yet. we'll do that at the top of the next hour for you. just a little bit, we talked about potential for micro burst storms. we do have monsoon season, all storms to the east, nevada, southern california. here around the san francisco area, none of that yesterday at the time. in fact, conditions really were kind of perfect. sometimes this time of year you get a lot more cloud cover later on in towards the area. june bloom in towards july. that kind of weather not the
case. winds at 8 miles an hour. clear conditions. i can tell you go forward the next three days, we have really nice conditions across the bay area once again. so there won't be any rain that would potentially hamper the investigation. clear skies all three days, temps into the low 70s, overnight lows in the 60s. morning fog burning off around 10:00, 11:00 each morning. back to you. >> thank you very much. new overnight, clashes continued in egypt. there has been conflicting reports who is in charge of that country. this while the death toll continues to rise from conflicts in the streets. live in cairo to straighten some of these questions out. >> reporter: the new military-backed government in egypt faced its first political setback. we heard word mohammed elbaradei, the nuclear regulatory watchdog chief has been tapped to be interim president here.
couple hours later we started hearing his name was withdrawn from that office, in large part some members of the opposition coalition decided they didn't want him to be the prime minister, particularly the islamist group party. the islamist group, anti-muslim brotherhood, part of the opposition here, this underlines how difficult it will be for opposition to build some type of unity government going forward. it's a divided and fractured organization. lots of different groups here in egypt. late last night there was more violence. not nearly anything like we saw previous days. death toll starts at 36 people dead in the last few days, more than 1 how or so injured. we are expecting protests today. so far the violence and the city here in cairo, much more calm than expecting, which is a good thing for the egyptians trying to sort of rebuild this country, move forward after the latest military coup. the muslim brotherhood calling on supporters to take to the streets. maintain peaceful sit in at the
republican guard headquarters where they believe mohamed morsi is being held. they want him released and reinstated. that seems unlikely. there will be more protests today. how violent they will be, that still remains to be seen, tucker. >> thanks a lot. be safe. >> lets get to other headlines and tell you what else is new overnight. a busy news day. a tornado relief concert in oklahoma turned dangerous. country stars garth brooks and toby keith had a benefit concert for the deadly tornado that struck oklahoma last may. temperatures reached mid-90s at the start of the concert. 21 people suffered severe heat exhaustion and were rushed to local hospitals. concert officials say nearly 1300 others were brought to nearby cooling stations. federal budget cuts heavily impacting thousands of servicemen and women. some national guard members facing furloughs. automatic cuts forcing soldiers to take an unpaid leave of
absence one day a week. that amounts to a 20% pay cut. defense department that issued cuts stated furloughs would not affect military. cuts are expected to last a minimum of three months. this volcano in mexico city continuing to spew ash sky high. a city spokeswoman said the volcano which again erupting is getting more intense each day. a cloud of ash and vapor two miles high causing major visibility issues in the capital city. hundreds of u.s. airlines have delayed flights since the eruption began. and the latest trend in the u.s. job market, a jump in part-time employment. will explain why it's economically dangerous for america coming up. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.
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at the university of maryland and he joins us from our washington bureau. peter, 47% of the population with full time jobs, that seems like a disaster. give us some perspective, is it? >> it certainly is a disaster. americans aren't finding meaningful work. with obama care happening employers are concerned 18 months from now they are going to have to provide expensive health benefits they are taking two jobs, splitting them into three and finding people who will work 28, 29 hours a week. so more typical american these days is out there working for two part-time jobs with very little security. >> so in other words, employers are finding it just too expensive to hire full-time workers. isn't this exactly what the opponents of obama care predicted during the debate before that bill became a law? >> absolutely. if you require employers to provide massive health care program with very high standards of coverage to everyone, they are simply not going to be able
to afford it. they will find some way, one way or the other not to have full-time employees or as few as they can so as to pay benefits only to their managers and high-ranking people. >> here is the part i can't get past. 47% of the population works full time. that means the other 53% is being supported by that 47%. that's not a good ratio. >> absolutely not. look what's happening to young people. my graduates, my students, so many are getting into part-time jobs, some not meaningful. have you a guy with a master's degree working at starbucks so he lives with his parents. he's okay as long as his parents continuing working. a lot of folks my age putting off retirement, those with good jobs and savings, simply to support their children into their 20s. eventually we won't be able to do that. what's going to happen to young people and student loans? the answer is bad things.
>> the debt load young people are carrying grows as his earning potential shrinks is what you're saying. >> absolutely. the president has been buying lower unemployment rates by providing cheap student loans and keeping people out of the labor market. when they finally enter, they enter at low wages and part-time employment. we have the kind of problem spain has but the president has been papering it over. >> exactly. cheap student loans keep people out of the labor market. peter, that's a lucid explanation of a very troubling trend. we appreciate it. thanks a lot. >> take care. this just in, investigators have found the black box at san francisco international airport, the site of yesterday's deadly plane crash. more details on that coming up. and they are the best of the best chosen to represent the united states in israel for one of the largest athletic competitions in the world. before they go for the gold, they will show off their skills right here. be right back.
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welcome back. "fox news alert." here's the latest on that horrific plane crash. ntsb officials recovering that black bogs from asiana airlines. hoping it will provide some answers. the jetliner carrying more than 300 people crash landed around 11:30 in the morning pacific time aboard asiana flight. all passengers have been accounted for. 182 people brought to the hospital, several remain in critical condition at this hour including two children. 61 americans were on that flight which originated from seoul, south korea. they're heading to israel
this wednesday to represent america as team usa in the world maccabiah games. but first, they stopped by our plaza so they could show off their skills, and we can give them a "fox & friends" sendoff. jeff is the usa chairman for the world maccabiah games. jason bauer is the women's coach for team usa and leah jewett is a level nine gymnast. welcome to all of you. >> thank you for having us. >> tell us about the games. >> it is the third largest international sporting event, and it is the largest jewish sporting event in the world. there will be over 8,000 athletes from 50-plus countries throughout the world. >> it's incredible. it is the third largest, as you said, right behind the olympics and world cup. that's amazing because people don't talk about these as much. tell us what goes into training these gymnasts we're watching behind you. >> these girls and guys train anywhere from 20 to 25 hours a week 52 weeks a year. they don't get vacations or
breaks. this is a life commitment for them. you know, they are the best at what they do. and we're just all proud to be with them going to israel. >> leah, you are just 13 years old. >> yes. >> what's it been like for you to train to get to this point? >> it's been a great experience. i'm really excited to go. >> as your coach just said, there's no goofing off for you at 13 years old. how often are you training? >> four hours a day, five days a week. >> so you get to go this week. what are you looking forward to there? >> probably meeting the people and just seeing, like, the culture experience. >> is tomorrow your birthday? >> yes. >> a little birdie just told me that. what a great birthday. so do you turn 14 years old tomorrow? >> yes. >> wow, this is quite a life experience for you. jeff, tell us about what it means to all these athletes to be able to go. >> for them it's like an olympic games. a tremendous event. a little different from the olympics which is a one-dimensional sporting event. this is a multidimensional event because it will be cultural and heritage there. we have a program for the first week called israel connect and
the kids will tour around israel. >> largest gathering of jewish athletes anywhere. so what sorts of cultural things will people like leah be learning? >> they'll be going to yad vashem, traveling all over the country, and there will be 9,000 athletes there representing 77 countries from around the world. >> wow. how's team usa going to do? >> well, we're going to win a lot of medals. different from the olympic team where the success is measured by how many medals, our success is measured by how many kids we bring over to israel. >> that's so terrific. how many kids are you bringing? >> 1,117. >> well, that's wonderful. so tell us what we're seeing behind you here, jason. tell us what we're going to be seeing at the games. >> over here we have girls performing on the balance beam, doing their, you know, parts of their routines, their jumps, their turns, their leaps. and on the other side we have some of the guys on the parallel bars, you know, warming up some of their elements as well that they're going to be performing over in israel. >> so impressive. jeff, i know you have something for "fox & friends." >> my mom always tells me never
to come empty-handed. >> good lesson. >> i wanted to bring you our official team warm-up. >> that's so cool. look at this. this is great. well, best of luck. best of luck to you. have a great birthday. and go team usa. thanks so much. we will treasure this. thanks for coming into "fox & friends." >> pleasure. >> pleasure to meet you guys. let's go back into the guys. >> that means you have to get up on the parallel bars. >> i hope not. >> in high heels. >> all right. >> can you do it? can you pull it off? >> okay. i'll do it. during a break. coming up here on the show, it's a national crisis. u.s. student loan nearing the trillion-dollar mark. but one college claims they've got a solution. how they plan to combat the big problem. and we're on the ground with live updates on that deadly crash landing at san francisco airport. what experts are learning now about the accident this morning. they have just recovered the black box. [ female announcer ] switch to swiffer 360 duster extender,
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killing 2, injuring nearly 200 others, some of them critically. >> and recordings being released from the air traffic control moments before the crash. >> we've got a 214 heavy san francisco tower. >> all right. the 635 flying at 265 maintain 3100. 665, 3100. >> asiana 214 heavy, emergency vehicles are responding. we have everyone on their way. >> reaction to that audio. "fox & friends" hour three starts right now. and good morning again, everyone. breaking news this morning on "fox & friends," new details coming in at this hour about the crash in san francisco.
two 16-year-old girls from china were killed when the asiana flight 214 crash landed on the runway. you see the aftermath there. 182 people were hurt. several are still in critical condition at this hour. and the crash was witnessed by people all over the san francisco bay area. >> yeah. the minutes that followed were chaotic and frantic. listen as firefighters rushed to the scene witnesses describe the terrifying moment. >> san francisco international airport on a downed plane 777. >> asiana heavy 214 emergency vehicles responding. we have everyone on their way. >> we've got a large plane well involved in fire. >> the tail was very low. and when it hit, sparks flew. >> and it was about three or five seconds out. >> we felt like we were about to land in the water. the guys totally underestimated, no warning, no nothing.
>> the chutes had already been deployed, and we observed multiple numbers of people coming down the chutes and actually walking to their safety. my hat is off to the men and women that literally assisted people off the plane, went into the cabin of the plane to do what they could. and that is to protect lives. >> it is incredible that we have and very lucky that we have so many survivors. >> indeed. just moments ago the chairwoman of the national transportation safety board confirming that crews already on the scene have retrieved the black box from the boeing 777 plane. adam housley live at the airport with the very latest. nice to see you, adam. >> reporter: good morning, clayton. yeah, heard it live here on fox about a half an hour ago when the ntsb chairwoman mentioned the two black boxes were already on their way back to washington, d.c. she says within minutes of the crash happening here in san francisco, the california team from the ntsb team was dispatched.
they came here. obviously the scene was secured at that point. they made sure the two black boxes were found in good condition we're told and they're already on their way back to d.c. that will help guide them along as this investigation proceeds. an investigation that will them to korea, we're told. at the same time, will take a number of days here in san francisco. it may be a week before this airport is back to its normal procedure here. in the meantime, only two different runways are open. those runways don't handle the jumbo jets, we're told, as well as the other two. so as you might imagine here, there are a lot of flights that have been delayed and/or canceled or diverted. meantime, as for the crash survivors themselves, there are a number in area hospitals. nine different hospitals are treating survivors. the numbers fluctuate as to how many are still in the hospital and how many are in critical condition, but there are at least a few in critical condition. and we do know of the two fatalities, we were told by the chinese consulate this morning, those two fatalities were 16-year-old girls from china. now, you talk about those who
were on the plane. there were also many who witnessed this crash. the airport is overlooked by literally thousands of homes in the san bruno area, san mateo, that look down on this airport. people also running along the waterfront. some people here at the airport who all witnessed this crash. take a listen to one of the witnesses and what they saw. >> the wheels, they were too low too soon. so this is the runway. it came in like this. and i was just watching the wheels. and it just hit like that, and the whole thing just collapsed immediately. it never really had a chance. >> when you hear these accounts not only from survivors but witnesses, it makes it even more remarkable. and as the ntsb chairwoman said to us, when you look at that on the ground feet away from the massive fuselage that's been burned out and broken up, she says it's truly amazing so many people made it out alive. back to you in new york. >> it is amazing. adam hou adam housley on the scene.
the plane is a boeing 777. it's considered state of the art. it's considered a very safe airplane. in fact, this crash of flight 217 are the first fatalities that it has ever experienced, though it has had two previous crashes, but with no injuries. >> but imagine a plane that's been in service for 18 years, 1,100 of them in the skies, all over the world, no one has ever been killed on a 777 until this crash at san francisco international airport. >> quite remarkable. on flight 214, those two 16-year-old girls from china killed. and it can fly up to 380 seats. it can fly up to 16 to 19 hours. we know that this flight itself from seoul, south korea, was a very long flight. some passengers describe it -- pilots even as a very mundane flight. nothing really exciting even happening. and here is a look at the floor plan of the interior. we know that some of the exits were not -- didn't have the ability to be opened. as you can see, some of the white areas there, those white
stripes are the exit rows. where the slides were to come down. only a few of the slides were deployed, and pretty remarkable that with that fireball on top of the aircraft at that time, getting 307 people out of that aircraft with the fires and only a number of slides open, pretty remarkable. >> we also know that the evacuation was apparently to some extent a self-evacuation. survivors have recounted hearing someone telling them that they had landed safely and to remain with their seat belts fashioned. obviously erroneous but they managed to get themselves off the plane anyway. >> we are joined by an eyewitness who watched the crash from his balcony. we are looking at the video that he himself took. constantine abramson witnessed this entire event. thanks so much for joining us this morning. >> hello. good morning. >> tell us what you saw. >> well, about 11:30 a.m. yesterday morning, i was out on my porch. we could see the sfo pretty good. and i saw the plane come into the end of the bank of the
runway. as soon as it hit, it looked like it was about to split in two. when it got to about the middle of the tarmac, a big fireball had came out the top of the middle of the plane. and flames started coming out. it was pretty intense. >> is it your impression, did it clip the sea wall coming in? that's the current theory. is that right, do you think? >> yeah, it looked like it hit, and then it slid about halfway into the tarmac. it was pretty far. and then as soon as it stopped, the explosion happened. it was a really loud, loud sound that came once it stopped. >> so you know this airport well. you know the approaches there well, i'm sure, with plane after plane after plane landing in succession. we know that the air traffic control towers had to immediately try to reroute other aircraft at the time. do you know at the time if there were other planes on approach and had to quickly swoop out and move? >> there was a plane that did
have to reroute out of the way. i've seen planes reroute many times, in fact, have been on a plane that has rerouted into sfo before landing and just gone straight up into the air. yeah, there was at least one plane that did do that. >> constantine, were you already on your balcony? were you watching the plane approach? someone described it as being too low even before it impacted with the jetty there. >> i was there just watching the planes, just as usual, it just looked like a normal day. and then it just kind of catches your eye. you see it and you just didn't -- it all happens too fast. i didn't think it was going to happen, and then boom, it just happened. >> just to be clear, it sounds like this was pilot error. we did speak to someone who was on a flight coming in around the same time who described strong wind gusts. did you notice any gusty winds? >> not from where i was.
i'm about, like, a mile or two away. it didn't seem as though the wind was picking up from where i was. but then again, closer to the tarmac, it would probably be a little different story. >> constantine, who was a witness there, to this accident and sending us some video this morning. thanks for talking with us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we want to bring our viewers up to speed. according to fox news, we're learning the names have been released of those two young girls who were killed in that accident. chinese state media identified the two 16-year-old girls from ye mengyuan and wang linjia. they were students from the middle school in eastern china that were killed. both reportedly 16 years old. this, again, according to fox news. just learning this information. >> thanks for that update. let's go over to rick now for a look at the weather there. >> so conditions the next few days are looking good. that's good news. even if you had a rain that was going to hamper the
investigation efforts, that's not going to be the case. we have clear skies. temperatures will be fine. winds will be light. we'll have the fog in the morning. but by, say, 10:00, 11:00, the next three mornings it's all going to burn off. want to show you the satellite/radar. across the west looking good. we'll continue to see that monsoonal activity throughout the afternoon as the day heats up again. expect parts of new mexico and arizona and in towards the four corners seeing some of those thunderstorms. but we have more rain that's in store across areas of the southeast. this plume of moisture here will continue to affect areas of alabama throughout much of tennessee and kentucky. and eventually this is going to begin to drift a little farther off towards the east and we'll get rain showers back towards the northeast. get ready, though, today another incredibly hot day. excessive heat warnings in effect all across the big cities of the northeast. guys? >> thanks, rick. >> thank you, rick. there are other stories to tell you about. here are your headlines. we start with another fox news alert for you. saudi arabia just confirming two more people have died from a new respiratory virus related to sars. the latest deaths in riyadh,
that brings the total number of deaths in the country to 38 people. sars killed about 800 people during a global outbreak back in 2003. it belongs to a family of viruses that can cause the common cold. and bolivia has just become the third country to offer asylum to edward snowden. you may remember that there was a plane carrying bolivian president ivo morales, and it was rerouted because it was suspected that snowden was on board, morales says the asylum offer is essentially payback for that incident. snowden asked for asylum in more than 20 countries. venezuela and nicaragua were the only other countries to say yes. also new overnight, an historic moment may change how we fly. a solar-powered plane completes its cross-country journey. the aircraft landed late last night at jfk airport in new york city. marking the end of a two-month journey. a small tear in the left wing forced the plane to land three hours earlier than expected.
the aircraft which is powered by about 11,000 solar cells can travel upwards of 45 miles per hour. >> wow! >> not the fastest way to fly. environmentally safe. >> you drive faster than that. >> i do. >> a cheetah could outrun it. still impressive. coming up here on the show, it's a national crisis. u.s. student loans are nearing the trillion-dollar mark. but one college claims they've got a solution. how they plan to combat that problem. and recordings released from the air traffic control moments before the crash. >> asiana heavy san francisco tower. >> [ inaudible ]. >> next, a former pilot and air traffic controller joins us with his analysis of what you're listening to right here. we'll be right back.
>> asiana heavy 214 emergency vehicles responding. we have everyone on their way. >> after flight 214 crashed at san francisco international airport. >> the eerie part was that just before the crash the pilot did not appear to sound rattled at all, causing many to wonder what exactly was going on inside the cockpit. joining us now, former air traffic controller and commercial airline pilot robert mark who is uniquely qualified to answer these questions. robert, what's your sense from listening to this, that there was no problem at all until they touched down? >> well, it seems like when they cleared them to land, which i think was about a minute or maybe a little less before they hit the dike, certainly the sound of their voice didn't give anyone any indication that anything was going on. but, of course, that doesn't mean that something didn't happen in that last 30 seconds that may have really challenged them. and that's the part we don't know about. they obviously hit the dike. they were low. but why were they low? was it that they didn't notice
what was going on, or were they completely distracted by something else that was going on? >> i want to talk about, robert, because we mentioned this earlier in the show, and i think it's important, the cultural differences here. famously korean air was banned from flying into the united states following a crash. we know culturally that the first officer in that situation wouldn't speak up, wouldn't say to the captain, hey, we're coming in too low here. we've got a problem. and in the united states, we have that. we expect that the first officer say something to the captain if they notice something wrong. do you think there's a possibility that in this -- some of this silence, as this approach was happening, that we may see something similar here? >> well, i think it's always a possibility. i mean, you know, we're talking about a culture that's halfway around the world that trains to the same checklists and books and manuals that we do. but again, the interpersonal communication is very different. i mean, i do teach a class up at
northwestern that involves students from other parts of the world. and we have to be extremely sensitive to the way that we communicate with them because they don't learn the same way that we do. >> yeah. so quickly, can you tell us, are we going to hear more -- i mean, will the recording from the cockpit from when the plane touched down or crashed or hit the dike until everyone was evacuated, will that become public at some point? >> it most likely will. and, of course, as we've heard the recorders are on their way to washington right now to be analyzed. but i think when we hear that cockpit voice recorder, that last 30 or 40 seconds is going to be absolutely critical. because in this airplane, much of it's automated, of course, we're going to hear the airplane calling out to the crew. they have audio warnings that say too low or too slow or whatever. and we also may hear about some failures going on that really caused them to lose control of the airplane.
>> robert mark is a commercial airline pilot and a former air traffic controller. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate your expertise. >> you're welcome. well, one of the world's most-wanted mobsters busted and finally behind bars this morning. how cops finally got their man. and it's a national crisis. u.s. student loan debt nearing the trillion-dollar mark. one college claims they've got a solution. how it plans to combat the problem. tony used priceline to book this 4 star hotel. tell 'em why. free breakfast with express deals, you can save big and find a hotel with free breakfast without bidding. don't you just love those little cereal boxes? priceline savings without the bidding.
london officials say they caught panuzzi in a shopping mall with a fake i.d. busted. and new overnight, an out-of-control wildfire in nevada spreading to more than 10,000 acres. more than 500 homes have been evacuated already. about 400 firemen are trying to contain that fire. there have been no reports of injuries so far. ali? well, the motel amount of student loan debt in the united states is estimated to be more than $1 trillion. that surpasses even credit card debt. but some portland state university students in oregon decided to tackle the issue themselves. and now it's their school project designed to help students pay for their state school education. and it could actually become a law in oregon. joining us now to explain, tracy gibbs, a former student at portland state university who helped create the new plan. and ariel gruber, a current student. thanks so much are being here. >> thank you. >> thank you for having us. >> tracy, i want to start with
you. you came up with this concert as pa concept as part of your final exam. explain what you were trying to do in finding a new way to finance student loans. >> well, all of us, including ariel, were part of the initial class student debt/economics politics and advocacy. and through our instructors, economics professor mary king and working families party founder barbara dudley, all created this project to just research all of the -- what history of debt, what's going on with that, and what we can do -- find solutions here in oregon. and one of the solutions that we found was through the economic opportunity institute through john burbank, his pay it forward plan. >> and ariel, can you explain how that works? >> yeah. so basically the plan, just to give you an overview, is essentially oregon residents would be able to go to four-year
public universities without taking out any debt. so they'd be able to go to universities tuition free. and then after they complete their degree, they'd agree to pay a fixed percentage of their adjusted growth income for a set number of years after graduation, it would go into this fund which would eventually become self-sustaining and be an student for a future student to participate in this program. >> and one of the cool things about it is that you don't take out a loan. when you get a job, you pay back 3% of your salary over the course of 30 years. but, of course, tracy, that would be a lot more money if you end up making a huge salary. is that okay with everybody who came up with the plan? >> you know, in order to have that huge salary, of course, i don't know anybody that starts out making a huge salary, you know, when they graduate at, like, 22 years old and in my case, 24. however, you know, once you get that huge salary, you wouldn't have any of those tools or that education without the public university funding or through
those features either. you'd be paying it forward to future students that way. i think that, you know, with all those tools that you would have, you wouldn't have that without the university education. so you'd be paying it forward that way. >> yeah. i mean, if you're making a huge salary, 3% of it going back to the people who helped fund your education sounds worth it. well, tracy gibbs and ariel gruver, thanks for sharing it with us. it sounds like you guys came up with a cool plan. it could soon become law and you got a great civics lesson in the process. thanks so much for explaining it to us. >> you're welcome. >> you're welcome. >> take care. a month after controversial photos surfaced showing nigella lawson's husband allegedly strangling her had public, they are getting a divorce. the shocking reason her husband says he wants to call it quits. and when there's a crisis in the skies, they are the first to respond. a flight attendant tells us how they were able to keep
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both 16 years old. they were middle school students from china. dozens of chinese students and teachers were on board this flight heading to summer camp in the united states. we also know the ntsb has recovered the black boxes from the wreckage. adam housley live at san francisco international airport with the very latest on that. adam? >> reporter: yeah, clayton, we heard it here live on fox about an hour ago now. the ntsb and how they responded to this crash. we were told within minutes of the crash here in san francisco. their california team was en route here to the airport. upon arriving here, the scene was secured. and they found those black boxes right away. they were put on a plane and are headed back to d.c. they will arrive into washington this morning i think in the next hour or so, they should arrive in washington, d.c., for the process there. it will help them formulate their investigation because they're going to have a chance here to spend the next few days on the ground piecing through this fuselage. but when they have a chance to hear what's on those boxes, it will let them go into a certain
direction to really help specify where this goes. meantime, we're getting more updates on the number of victims. again, they have been fluctuating numberwise how many people are at area hospitals. we know they went to nine different hospitals from the peninsula all the way up to san francisco. and that there are a number of people in critical condition. the ntsb chairwoman told us right here live on fox that once you see that fuselage up close, it is amazing to see how many people made it out alive. take a listen to one of those passengers who did make it out alive. >> it was cracked on the right-hand side, but we managed to open the doors and somebody helped me push it out. there were no slides when i looked outside, i could see debris. it looked like a piece of the wing, we could step on it and go down further. you know, i just told people, okay, calm down, start getting out, leave your things behind, help each other. >> reporter: once again, one of
the survivors from the plane. many witnesses as well, ntsb will be interviewing not only survivors but the witnesses. there are many, many witnesses not only here at the airport but those who live nearby who were walking along the waterfront and watched that plane come down. they did acknowledge, it looks like, that the landing gear did hit the edge of that jetty where the bay endses and the runway begins. this will be part of their investigation, and whether or not the tail section came down as well. we're told that it may take as long as a week for san francisco international airport to get back to normal. and that also the investigation itself will take upwards of potentially a year before that report will come out. maybe before that. investigators were out there very late last night and early this morning. they went back to their hotels. and now as the sun begins to peek through here on the west coast, we're told that they will have a meeting very early this morning. and then head back out there when the natural light then gives them a better chance to see the wreckage. and also, they do plan on a press conference at some point
today. they're shooting for a 2:00 local time press conference of 5:00 eastern. we'll have that, of course, and all the information for you as this day moves along. back to you in new york. >> thanks, adam. we're getting more firsthand accounts from what it was like inside the plane after it hit the jetty as it skidded across the runway. there are accounts of heroism on the part of flight attendants. one was trapped inside the plane when a life raft inflated inside the aircraft. then there's this. this is a firsthand account. according to a passenger, and i'm quoting, she was a hero. this tiny little girl was carrying people piggyback running everywhere with tears streaming down her face. she was crying, but she was still so calm and helping people. i took a photo of her. that's according to "the wall street journal." amazing. >> that's beautiful. it won't be a surprise to our guest because when there's a crisis in the skies, flight attendants are the plane's first responders. this morning many are crediting the crew aboard flight 214 with keeping the passengers safe, as you just heard from tucker.
so what is it like on board during an emergency? >> sara nelson is the international vice president of the association of flight attendants and a united airlines flight attendant. she joins us now to talk about this. sa sara, what would it be like in those moments as that plane is coming down? it seemed as if from passengers we were talking to that they had little indication that anything was wrong. you land in that emergency situation. two bounces. what does the flight crew immediately do? >> well, let me just first say that flight attendants across the country send our love and prayers and support to the passengers and crew and the family members who have been affected by this. and we hope for a speedy recovery. but it highlights the fact that the work the flight attendants do is life-saving. and so what we would be doing in that moment is immediately going into our emergency procedures. i think we need to recognize that this was an 11-hour flight. it's critical that flight attendants remain alert throughout the flight, even up to the last moments. so rest is critical. and our training is critical. that kicks in.
and these stories that you're hearing about what flight attendants did on board, i think we'll hear more of those because they are heroes and the emergency response kicks in, even though this is not something we're faced with every day, this is what we take to work with us every day, that this is our primary job. >> we're also hearing, however, that after the plane hit the jetty, after it was clear that the plane had crashed, passengers were instructed to remain in their seats. the landing was described as a safe landing, and told to keep their seat belts fastened. how do you think that happened? >> well, it is possible that the cockpit crew thought that it was safer for people to remain in their seats. and that's why flight attendants in the cabin have to continually assess the conditions. and can initiate an evacuation when they see that the scene has become unsafe. so that's critical that flight attendants have that training as well. and can continually assess the conditions and get people to safety when necessary. >> sara, we've also heard that some of the passengers on board
had to do what's described as a self-evacuation, some of the emergency exits didn't sort of deploy. are passengers sometimes called upon to just use their best guidance? >> well, flight attendants -- when flight attendants are not able to get to an exit, we will do our best to instruct passengers to open that exit and get people out. and we need to make sure that the pathway is safe because we don't want to send someone from one dangerous position into another. so that's a critical part of the training. but we will instruct passengers to help us when we cannot get to an exit. >> sara, we're hearing, i mean, a number of spinal fractures as a result of this. and whether or not it happened because of the second -- the two bounces that the plane took, or just the general impact. what do you do as a flight attendant in those situations with a fireball above you as the plane is catching on fire to try to get those people out? >> well, i will tell you that i have stories of flight attend t attendants who have been seve severely injured in a crash and who have returned themselves to
pull people from burning aircraft. so our emergency procedures kick in. it's very unlikely that we're thinking about our own individual injuries. we want to get people to safety so we can assess those injuries. also i read in an a.p. report that first responders handed utility knives so crew members could cut people out of their seat belts and get them to safety. i think we're going to hear more and more about this because you want to get as many people off the aircraft as quickly as possible so that you can assess and go through and get anyone out who may be incapacitated before that aircraft would burn up. because once that aircraft starts burning, it burns very quickly. >> you guys are obviously invaluable. and people forget that you are the first responders on flights. and i always monitor the flight attendants. if there's something happening on the flight that i think isn't quite right, i look at your faaces. and if you guys are cool as a cucumber, as you always are, i feel a lot better. sara nelson, thanks so much for being on to explain it to us. >> thanks, sara.
>> thank you, ali. and i appreciate you highlighting that you need to listen to the flight attendants' instructions. i really appreciate that. you guys have a good morning. >> thanks, sara. another question this morning is whether or not weather was any kind of a factor. this airport sort of notorious for that, rick. we know that there's fog there on a regular basis, visibility has always been an issue there. you've got turbulence because of the mountains. but yesterday how did it shape up? >> yeah, the turbulence for the mountains, you've got mountains or hills to the west of the airport. out across areas on one side of the bay. and on the other side of the bay, you have higher mountains as well. definitely you get some different crosswinds. in this case winds were really light, around seven miles an hour. no strong jet stream moving across the area. so real extreme winds anywhere higher in the atmosphere either. and thunderstorms which can start to happen this time of year were all farther off towards the east. this is yesterday morning. all those thunderstorms you see across areas of nevada and in towards utah and arizona and southern california. but northern california really was looking fine. this is a look at what's going on right now. today we're going to see more of
these storm as cross parts of the four corners. monsoonal activity will continue. it looks like for the next number of days. good news to get that. unfortunately we have some very heavy rain across areas of the southeast where we've seen just devastating flooding over the last couple of days. excessive heat warnings in effect across parts of the northeast. people need to know this, a dangerous day ahead today as these temperatures will be soaring into the upper 90s, at least it feels like some temperatures, some relief comes in by tomorrow. guys? >> thanks so much, rick. meanwhile, there is more news to tell you about this morning. clashes are raging in egypt. more demonstrations are planned for today. this while the death toll there continues to rise. yesterday there were conflicting reports about who is in charge in that country. >> yeah, connor powell is live in cairo with the very latest on this. who is in charge at this hour, connor? do we know? >> reporter: well, tucker the political divisions run deep here, and they cut across both camps not just pro-morsi and anti-morsi. last night we got word that
mohamed elbaradei had been tapped to be the interim prime minister. a few hours later, that was rejected according to press reports here in egypt by members of the opposition, members of his coalition, the anti-morsi groups, because members of the nor party simply rejected elbaradei. they said he was not a good fit for the interim prime minister's position. so right now there is no prime minister here. there is an interim president. but no prime minister. this new government, this military-backed government, has struggled to sort of get its feet here in the first 72 hours or so of its existence. now, there were continued protests across egypt yesterday, but not nearly as violent as we had seen in previous days. 36 people -- at least 36 people have been killed in the fighting. more than 1,000 or so have been injured. now, the muslim brotherhood is calling for protests today. so is the opposition. the anti-morsi group. they are expected to turn out here in tahrir later tonight. there are, of course, concerns that the two groups could clash in tahrir or other parts of the
city. right now there is hope it may be peaceful. the military and the muslim brotherhood are in the same area near the republican guard headquarters where it is believed that mohamed morsi is being detained. but, of course, we'll have to continue to watch to see. violence here flares up very quickly, tucker. >> conor powell, thank you very much for that update. >> and be safe. a volatile place, egypt. >> sure is. we know some reporters have been injured. other headlines, it's a busy news day. an update on yesterday's train derailment in canada. officials in quebec confirm one person dead when the 73-car train lost control, sparking that massive fire that you see on your screen. it took fire crews more than a day to completely put out these flames. the train was carrying crude oil to quebec. more than 2,000 people were evacuated from the city's eastern township. police now say they believe there was no driver at the helm when the train crashed. the death toll expected to rise. and photos showed him
grabbing his wife. celebrity chef nigel la by the neck. he says he wants a divorce because she refused to defend him from that criticism. he just made the announcement to "the mail" newspaper. the couple has been married ten years. lawson moved out after the incident but has not commented. well, out with the old, in with the new jersey. long lines of patriots fans showed up at the pro shop to trade in their aaron hernandez jerseys. the patriots announced last week they would offer a free jersey for anyone looking to get rid of their number 81. hernandez was charged with murder last month. the team took all hernandez memorabilia off the shelves after they released him from the team. and it's the circle of life. that squeal is from the first baby panda ever born in taiwan. look how little it is. the cub was delivered by pandas
gifted to the country by china. two panda experts will spend the next three to five months caring for the newborn. i've never heard a panda talk before. >> i haven't either. they're kind of screechy. >> a little bit. >> when you're in the jowls of a giant panda being squeezed. coming up, father jonathan explains why the power of prayer is so important in incidents like you just saw like the one at san francisco international airport. wait a sec! i found our colors.
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passengers on the asiana airlines flight, the crash to san francisco, may have turned to prayer just seconds before their plane went down. i bet they did. >> so why is it so important to turn to faith during a crisis, and how can we use our faith to help us feel safe flying in the future? fox news religion contributor father jonathan morse joins us now. father jon, so we're supposed to have faith when we get back on a flight and ignore what we've learned today? >> no. you should never ignore facts. but the facts are also that so many people were saved, thank god, right? and were with in our thoughts and prayers the families of the victims who did die. and the united states has a great opportunity to show those families from china, i believe,
great love and compassion as a country and as individuals. but you can be sure there are lots of prayers of thanksgiving coming from all those passengers who felt like they were very close to death based on their own explanations. you know, in times of tragedy and oftentimes great joy, the country does, to a great extent, turn to prayer. i remember being on a flight not too long ago coming from california, actually, and a woman sat next to me and proclaimed very happily, i am an agnostic. and we ended up having a very nice conversation. but it turned out to be one of the bumpiest, craziest flights of all time. >> god was mad at her. >> no, i don't think so. but it was very interesting. and she was surprised herself. as we dropped about 500 feet suddenly, she grabbed my hand and she said, would you mind praying? >> yes! because it reminds you that you're not in control of your life. >> it does. >> we have this illusion that we're in full control. when you're on a plane, there's no pretending anymore. >> and that's not belittling
disbelief in any way. this woman was very honest saying she really does question, and she was an agnostic. but in that moment, she did feel, like you said, tucker, like she was out of control. and then we looked for answers. i don't know if she became a believer in that moment, but she was certainly praying a prayer of gratitude when we landed safely. >> out of times of tragedy, of course, those that are living are questioning, why me? why am i alive? why did these two young 16-year-old girls, why were they killed? in those situations, it's difficult. and you have to go to your faith to try to find answers in that. what sort of answers can you find from that question? it seems to be a really difficult question. >> it is. >> why did god do that to them? >> i don't think god did it to them. first of all, we thank god for all the good training of so many pilots that get us on the ground safely every single day. we thank the flight attendants like we just heard from a representative for their work in getting people out safely during this crash as well. so we, first of all, we use our
reason, right? talk about airplanes. i believe faith and reason. john paul ii who will soon be called saint john paul ii by catholics talked about faith and reason being two wings by which we fly. and we can never say we're going to put aside reason because we have faith. but at the same time, there are certain things that facts and reason just don't answer. and to your question, clayton, i think we can thank god for the mystery of life and being able to get through these very tough times. i don't have a perfect answer for you, clayton. >> yeah. >> no one does. thank you, father. appreciate it. >> have a good sunday. coming up here on the show, the prosecution has rested in the george zimmerman case. and tomorrow morning the defense will begin to make its case. can we expect any surprises? judge alex who's been following the trial since the beginning is up next to weigh in, and he is here. ♪
prosecution rested in the george zimmerman case. tomorrow morning the defense will begin its case. what surprises can we expect? joining us now is host of "judge alex" great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> were the prosecution able to accomplish that george zimmerman engaged in a dangerous act and something out of ill will, which would allow them to convict him of second degree murder? >> i don't think they did. it requires ill will, hatered, spite. they were counting on the utterances he made in the car with burglars. they were trying to imply racism and the evidence has shown
anything but. >> how is it proven he was not a racist? >> the lead investigator said in my investigation when i realized he had been mentoring young african-american children and tried to fund raise for a black homeless man beaten up by his son, everything the officer learned, he said there was no racial bias here. that hurt the implication the state was trying to make. >> you think the prosecution will not be able to convict him on second degree. is it possible manslaughter? >> manslaughter definitely is possible. it's still hard because he has a good self-defense claim. the problem with the case is there is only one side to the story. this is not unique. judges, lawyers see this all the time where one side is dead and the other side has their version. manslaughter is still a possibility because if the jury decides self-defense was not appropriate, that he went too far with the situation he was in, then manslaughter is the
natural charge after that. >> what does the defense have to do this week? >> they are going to rebut the medical examiner was a train wreck. >> what did he do wrong? >> he was all over the place. it looked like he had a manifesto he wanted to read to the jury. he had his agenda. when you see the forensic path on t pathologist and he wrote the book that they relied on. i think they will rebut a lot of things. i expect to hear, i don't know, but i expect to hear the reason there is no bruising on trayvon martin's hands consistent with the amount of injuries is when you die, when you get shot your heart stops pumping blood. the pumping of blood causes bruising over time. you hit yourself you don't see a bruise until later because later on the bruise surfaces. that will be used to explain why
they don't have a lot of injuries on his hands. thre going to come out during the defense side of the case. they don't have to do a lot. they are certainly not going to put george on. not a chance. >> it could only have a down side. >> his story has been put out there five different times. he's given his interviews. that helped his case. the police said the guy fervor asked for a lawyer. he answered all our questions. there were inconsistencies but we as police officers thought there were some inconsistencies. >> very easily there could be a total acquittal. not because what george did is not wrong. there would be people going we disagree with him getting out of the car and going after trayvon but the evidence may not be there. they may come back with a manslaughter conviction if they don't buy a self-defense claim. the most he faces, the maximum is 30 years because of the use of a gun.
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it's sunday, july 7. we start this hour with a fox news alert. the black boxes from the san francisco plane crash have been recovered. they are now in washington, d.c. we have a live report on the investigation for you. recordings being released from air traffic control moments before this crash. >> 214 heavy, san francisco tower. >> this on the verge of disaster. what was really going on in the cockpit. >> passengers onboard the ill-fated flight share their stories of survival. >> were you scared? >> oh, yeah. heard a hard bang and we were sure something had gone wrong. >> more first hand accounts of the frightening moment before and after the crash straight ahead. >> "fox and friends" hour four
starts right now. we begin with a fox news alert. horror on the runway in san francisco. a plane carrying more than 300 people crash lands. two people were killed and here is what else we know. this is asiana airlines, left 4:35 p.m. local time from seoul, south korea. >> 307 people onboard. ten hours later it arrived in san francisco. the plane crashed near the water. emergency crews were there within minutes. passengers say the entire incident lasted only about ten seconds. there were very few clouds in the sky. only light wipds. it was sunny out. all flights in and out of the
airport after were suspended. >> just after 1:00 p.m. local time ntsb announced it would send its go team in. two runways reopen at the airport. after 4:00 p.m. local time authorities confirm two people from china were killed. their bodies found outside the plane. both 16-year-old girls. three hours later police confirmed everybody was accounted for. >> overnight asiana airlines says engine failure was not to blame. dozens remain hospitalized. >> two investigators arrived to san francisco. they recovered two black boxes. there are no signs of terrorism. the two girls killed were both identified as 16-year-old middle school students from china. officials who have surveyed the damage say they are lucky it wasn't worse. ntsb digging for answers.
today adam is live at san francisco international airport with the latest on all of this. good morning, adam. >> reporter: good morning. when we talked to the ntsb who had a chance to see the crash site late last night under spotlights, it's completely amazing only two people were killed. you feel horrible for the families of those two girls. we'll have more information on them shortly. there are people still in area hospitals recovering, some are critical. it is amazing of the 307 people almost everybody got out alive. the investigative team got here late at night from washington, d.c. they flew and fet the california team that was already here. that california team identified the two black boxes that was put on a plane back to washington, d.c. where they are now being analyzed. it will help the ntsb focus this investigation. the fuselage is there and will
take probably upwards to a week before san francisco international airport will get back to normal. they talk about some of the same video we've seen. they are looking how this plane came in, the fact that the landing gear appears to have hit the jetty where the bay ends and the runway begins. they will have a chance to interview witnesses, but those who survived this crash. take a listen to this passenger about the tale he tells when this plane came down and hit hard. >> it was all over in about 10 seconds time. you really don't know what's going on. >> were you scared? >> yeah. we all were. when we heard that loud bang, we were sure something had gone wrong. >> one of the many passengers that walked away from this crash, also a lot of people had a chance to see it at the airport, walking along the water front or one of the many homes
that overlook san francisco international airport. back to the victims. the two chinese nationals. we were told they were from china. it is a huge chinese community here in san francisco. they were part of a group of 29 teachers and students, middle school students headed for los angeles and summer camp. of course they died, 27 others in their group did survive in various conditions. we are told there are people at nine different hospitals all being treated for anything from just cuts up to very, very critical type injuries. back to you in new york. >> thank you so much. we are learning a lot about the san francisco airport and the approach. also about something called the landing assistance system that was turned off because it was good weather yesterday. they didn't need to rely on their instruments. the pilot had to make athe approach perfectly over water.
>> this is the approach at sfo. this is in south san francisco. this is the animation of what investigators believe may have happened, clipping that jetty on the outside of the water there as it approached that rock wall above the water. passengers describing seeing the water ten feet away where it should have been upwards of 500 feet at that time. captain sullenberger, famous for miracle on the hudson has sfo has unique terrain. he says the faa classified it as a special airport. along with other airports that involved mountainous terrain or other special challenges. it is surrounded by water and that is a featureless terrain where depth perception can be difficult. shifting winds, low visibilities. several things make it special, plus high terrain just past it. we know that high mountainous
terrain can cause turbulence and the fog is always a problem at san francisco. >> in november 1968, the jal aircraft, a flight from tokyo landed about three miles short of the runway right in the bay. everyone got off that plane safely. it was one of the first indicators this can be a tricky approach. >> officials and the president are congratulating first responders this morning for a job well done in san francisco. >> joining us with insight into
what was done on the ground is kenneth hoenig. former port authority police commander officer at jfk in new york and father of one of our fox producers. thank you for being with us. when you hear 214, the flight number, 214 heavy, that means it's coming in low, crash landed or what? >> 214 heavy means it's a large body aircraft. that tells other pilots in the area there would be more turbulence behind them. >> as we look at this animation here as we know it clipped that jetty, smashing the landing gear off and sliding in, what is going through the air traffic control minds at this moment. >> picking up the emergency notification system line puts them in contact with the aircraft fire fighting station in the airport, surrounding fire department, law enforcement, airport operations. in this case probably the united states coast guard because they are close to the water. those people are immediately
notified. they give information out that says what kind of aircraft, where the aircraft is, what they believe has happened. they tell them how much fuel was on board or an estimate how much fuel and give an estimate of the number of passengers. they refer to them as souls on board. >> there was no indication this plane was in trouble that we know of. yet survivors say firefighters were on the scene immediately. where do they come from? >> there are fire stations on the aeronautical area, that is right in the intersection between the runways. they cross at a certain point. near that. the faa requires that rescue firefighters get their first piece of fire fighting equipment on scene and begin dispensing fire fighting product in three minutes or less. >> there hasn't been a crash at
fso for a decade. every day they are vigilant waiting for something to happen. >> and they respond to emergencies that don't make the news. >> we know they were dispersing foam on top of it. looks like some of the slides did not deploy. while this is a fire ball, slides not deployed, what are emergency workers trying to do after they notice this? >> the first thing they'll do is look and see where the slides are and deploy fire-fighting foam to protect the slides from the heat and push the fire away from the heat. their primary goal is to save the passengers. aircraft rescue then fire fighting. they'll keep those areas clear. many slides were not deployed because there was fire in that area and they didn't want to put passengers into that area. >> whenever you see a plane crash it is so catastrophic yet we have to remember the majority of people onboard did survive.
you say that there are tips that will allow you to have a better chance at survival when you get on a plane. what should we do? >> listen to the flight attendants when giving that safety briefing. when they say the closest exit may be behind you. look for two exits so you have an alternate. count the number of rows between the seats where you are and there. >> that is important because it may be dark. you need to know how many rows between where you are and the exit. if you know in your head there are three, that's helpful. >> count when you're handling along the backs of the seats. also if there is smoke in the cabin, get down as low as you can because the air will be cleaner. the smoke is warmer and tends to rise. >> you say wear cotton. >> right. polyester is the artificial fabric that tends to melt when hot. cotton will not.
it's a natural fiber and will protect you from the heat more. wear long pants so they can protect you. most importantly, how important it is to you, don't think to grab your pocketbook or laptop case or personal items. >> just get out as fast as you can. >> all those things can be repla replaced, but you can't. >> is there a place safer to sit on board? >> the safest place, i sit in the exit row. that puts me close to the exit and i know i know how to open the door. >> and the extra leg room. >> are you convinced airlines are vigilant that people sitting in the exit rows can open the exit hatch? >> they question the people, they look at them. they talk to them and make sure they can understand english. that's how the directions will be given. they make sure they don't have a child with them. so they are not going to be distracted. they look at them and say, are you sure you can do this?
>> kenneth honig, fascinating. thank you for sharing your insights with us this morning. >> my pleasure. crowds in egypt expect to rage on tonight asmus limb brotherhood supporters plan a massive protest. >> ntsb investigators dispatched to san francisco as the airplane's black box now back in washington.
monitoring hundreds of performance items that the plane is going through. how fast it's going. what position the flaps are in. per power applied just before the crash. all those questions will be answered by the data recorder. the voice recorder records all the sounds and discussions in the cockpit. it will tell us whether the crew performed their chest like appropriately, whether they were situationally aware of what was going on. it looks as though they obviously came in low. were they fighting something or unaware they were in bad straits. threes two devices are critical to the investigation of a successful outcome. >> also critical is the fact the pilot and co-pilot survived. will ntsb investigators be able to interview them?
>> they will check with the physicians and they will likely interview them today or tomorrow. it is important the pilots have already been drug and alcohol tested. it's standard procedure. they will look carefully at their work habits over the past week to make sure they had the appropriate amount of rest. fatigue is a huge issue in transportation today. this investigation is just getting off the ground, but we'll know more when the first report comes out on what was in the black boxes. >> peter goelz, thank you for explaining what the next step will be. we'll be listening all week to find out what went wrong. president obama says the health care law would provide coverage for everyone but exchanges will make it impossible for poor people to
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>> well in all this states this problem is occurring because exchange plans pay doctors and hospitals less. they are reluctant to sign up to be part of these exchanges and that is providing access problem everywhere, not just in a poor state like mississippi. in california, it's reported that cedar sinai refuses to participate in any of the exchange plans, so people who sign up for those plans have to drive right by cedar sinai and go to a bargain basement hospital. in maine, hospitals and doctors said no way we are going to work for so little money. people who sign up for exchange plans there may have to drive 100 miles to see a doctor. >> this was to help people without insurance, poor, people without access to health care. >> in addition you see insurance companies refusing to
participate. one reason is that they see a default crisis ahead. this system is coaxing young healthy people to sign up for health insurance. even after subsidies they are going to write a check for $150 to $200 a month. they are going to write that check $150, 200 a month for the cheapest plan that is a $5,000 deductible. after a couple of months they are going to say what am i getting for this? i'd rather make a car payment. there is a big default crisis ahead similar to the mortgage crisis, college loan crises now the premium crises. >> viewers don't know what you're holding. that is the health care law. nancy pelosi said we need to pass this thing to find out what's in it. the individual mandate will be delayed. >> no. the employer mandate. valerie jarrett who seems to wear the pants at the white house said employer mandate
would be delayed. she said it's an accommodation to business. here is what it goes. it's going to drive lots of people toward the exchanges. >> you're saying these are going to be problematic these changes. >> there are about 13.5 million people who thought they were going to get covered on their retail job, service job, hotel job and they're not. the reason the administration did this, they went to the nfl, they went to the nba, they couldn't get one of these organizations to help them woo young people into these plans that really don't make a lot of sense financially for them. now they said, let's cancel the employer mandate and all these young healthy people who work in hotels and restaurants and in sales jobs, some of them will just pay the $95 penalty the first year but some will go to the exchange. >> i should point out your copy
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he is considered a million miler on the airline asiana. he boarded that flight just like he would any other. he told his daughter he had a gut feeling as the plane was landing that something terrible was about to happen. >> eunice joins us on the phone to tell user who about that. how is your father doing this morning? what happened to him as the plane was landing. >> good morning. he is doing much better than now. during the impact of the flight he said right before the plane had hit the ground he braced himself and said just from looking ought the window he knew it was going to be bad. he grabbed the chairs and braced for impact. he walked away with just scratches and bruises luckily.
>> he smashed his face into it, his jaw? >> yeah. he had a broken jaw when he was a child already. once he hit his jaw he couldn't move it. he couldn't speak or anything for quite some time, but he is fine now. >> how was he able to get off the aircraft, do you know? >> through the exit doors. once they crashed and everybody, he mentioned that everybody looked at each other and it was just a moment of silence. i think everybody was in shock probably. he said everyone was very calm and the flight attendants were unusually calm and very professional. he did mention one particular flight attendant. it was a very small woman but she was helping men twice her size get off the plane and she was crying, but she was very cooperative with the passengers. >> we read that account, as well. your father is a million miler.
that means he travels all the time. he's part of the obviously frequent flier program. he knows what that flight is supposed to feel like. what does he think went wrong? >> he doesn't know what went wrong. he did say not only was the plane going down very, very low on the runway, being but he could tell that they were trying to abort the landing once they started coming in too low. he said he could engines revving up trying to abort that landing, but they weren't able to do it. so it didn't work. >> but he felt the plane smash into the jetty? >> absolutely. he said the bounce in the back of the plane was excrutiatingly hard and there was a loud noise. i judge just actually heard that the two casualties were young
girls and they were in the back of the plane. my dad was supposed to sit in the back but at the last minute they moved him to the front. my heart goes out to the families that can't reunite with their children. >> we are looking at photos your father took after getting out of the aircraft. how long did he have to remain there. did investigators ask him questions at that time about what he saw and felt? >> yes. there were february agents, every member, passenger onboard was being questioned in case there was any type of a terrorist intention involved. i actually couldn't reunite with him until six, seven hours after the crash. >> we are so happy that your father is okay this morning and that he lived to share the story with you and you shared what you know what us.
we appreciate you being on. >> absolutely. this is definitely a time to be soulful with one another. i appreciate all the love that is pouring. the families with casualties appreciate that, too. >> thank you, eunice. what about in the cockpit? what would be happening as the plane is going down? joining us is former faa official scott brenner. thanks for joining us. do you think the obvious explanation is the correct one, somehow the pilot came in to clip the jetty and disaster occurred? >> again, i think we need to wait until the ntsb completes their investigation. the facts appear to be that's the case. you have a debris field that is perfectly linear, which means everything is going along in a straight line. some previous reports that the tail popped off is hard to believe. the tail would not be laying
down there in that center line. what the pilots are doing as they enter that critical phase of flight, anything below 10,000 feet, they start going through their checklist and checking everything on that aircraft to make sure they are in perfect alignment. the key in this whole investigation is going to be that conversation between the pilot and co-pilot about their altitude is. then as we just heard from the previous guests, them trying to power up the engines to get lift again and clearly was just too late. >> how will the faa or ntsb, they are both launching investigations, determine if this was definitively pilot error? >> are they'll look at a variety of things. the key part is this cockpit voice recorder. they'll listen to that conversation between the pilot and measure it against all the other data points in that aircraft that are going to be in that voice recorder. if we could step back a second,
the thing that the faa does the best, and it's a culture of safety at the faa is when they look at a crash like this, they say what could they have done to save a few more lives? if this crash happens ten years ago, 15 years ago, i would say the majority of people in that airplane are going to be dead. what the faa has done now, they've got stronger seats. in previous crashes they saw a lot of seats were coming out of the air frame and smashing into the seat in front of it. they redesigned the flammable material in the cabin which was filled with toxic material. those people would have suffered from smoke inhalation. the plane looks in horrible condition. overall, the airplane is relatively intact. the probably that did start burned slow enough that you got a lot of folks off the airplane. >> scott brenner, that is a brought point. we learned earlier these airplanes become labs where they
then go back and revisit and see how they can improve upon it. thank you for joining us. >> he makes a great point. air travel has gotten safer and airplanes have gotten safer, but on days like this when you see how catastrophic a crash can be. >> it's still safer than taking a shower, literally. >> and going to the beach, too let's check in with rick this morning to get a look at conditions there at san francisco airport. it's always a tricky situation flying into that airport. >> it's an interesting airport. you have hills on one side, mountains on the other side and that can create a micro climate and a lot of fog. that wasn't the case yesterday. different turbulence they'll look at is potential for a micro burst. a very strong down draft and that blows in that direction. there were no thunderstorms in the area. you can rule that out.
there is clear air turbulence. you fly along in sunny conditions. that is jong jet stream winds causing turbulence with that plane. the other turbulence is mountain turbulence. potentially that's what you could see having some sort of impact across the san francisco airport. what we know is winds were very light, just around 8 miles per hour. they were consistent out of the southwest. no changing winds and temperature's fine and clear skies. right there visibility of eight miles. no real condition problems with that. they are doing the further investigation, the forecast looking great. we'll see a lot of sunshine. temps if the low 70s. a lot of fog in the morning. that will burn off. i want to show you a couple of other trouble spots. we'll see more thunderstorms around the four corners later in the afternoon as the day heats up. more persistent rain across areas of the south. places that have seen significant flooding. anywhere east of that is warm. we are seeing the heat we had
last week pull in towards the central part of the country. a scorcher across the central part of the country and the east coast, one more day today. >> let's get to the rest of your headlines this morning. clashes continue to rage in egypt. more demonstrations are planned for today. this while the death toll continues to rise. there are conflicting reports about who is in charge in that country. connor powell is live for us in cairo with the latest. >> the egyptian military is trying to put together a coalition government to lead here in egypt. their first efforts hit a road block. last night we heard word that moment elbaradei was going to be prime minister here in egypt but that offer was pulled. it was rejected by one of the
islamist parties that make up pop situation to the morsi government. they simply would not accept elbaredei. the muslim brotherhood is demanding he be released and returned to power. they are calling for millions of supporters to take to the seats tonight. the pro government in power now, they are also going to hold some type of rally tonight in tahrir square. with the conflict and violence we've seen, there is a chance it could get ugly tonight. in the last 24 hours things have calmed down here a bit. there is hope maybe that will
hold. with the two sides taking the streets today, things could get violent later tonight. >> absolutely. let's hope things are able to stay stable there. thank you for the update. and nower who headlines. we have another fox news alert with brand-new information on yesterday's train derailment in canada. two more bodies have been found in the wreckage. that brings the test toll up to three people. officials previously confirmed one death not long after the 73-car train lost control sparking this massive fire you see on your screen. the flames raged on. the train had been carrying crude oil to quebec. more than 2,000 residents of these eastern townships were evacuated from their homes. police believe a runaway train caused deet railment. there was no driver at the helm at the time of the crash. officials say the death toll may continue to rise. federal budget cuts are
slated to begin tomorrow which will heavily impact thousands of service men and women. some national guard members facing furloughs. the automatic cuts forcing soldiers to take an unpaid leave of absence one day a week. that amounts to a 20% pay cut. the defense department originally stated the furloughs would not affect the military. cuts are expected to last a minimum of three months. photos showed him grabbing his wife, celebrity chef nigella lawson by the neck, but charles saatchi says he wants a divorce because she refused to defend him from that criticism. he made the announcement to the "mail" newspaper. the couple has been married ten years. lawson moved out after the incident, but has not commented. coming up as we celebrate the 237th anniversary of the declaration of independence, our next guest says the federal government deserves a declaration of incompetence. >> we are stating on top of the latest developments in san
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there's so much that you can't know because the government is so vast. >> so vast indeed. from issues like the irs targeting obama's political opponents to delaying obama care's employer mandate till 2015. are we seeing a government that is bloated to an unseemingly large level and become profoundly incompetent? joining us to weigh in is droy murdoch. i like your thesis. maybe the core problem with government is it is too big to deal with itself. >> even if you like the things, they are not getting done we had the employer mandate pushed back to january 2015, past the midterm elections. all these exchanges which are supposed to be the engine room of this system. 34 states relying on federal government to help set up these changes. they require 85% of the steps to be completed between now and october 1st. that is highly unlikely to happen.
and rate shock where people discover what they are going to pay next year. a 25 nonsmoker in california, your options are going up 123%. if you're a nonsmoking 43-year-old in virginia, the cheapest plan you can buy will triple. >> you write today if you are 40, middle age nonsmoker in virginia you can buy coverage $63. under obama chair your cheapes option $193. >> it's going to triple. >> what's the point of that? >> i don't know what the point. >> subsidize people who made less healthy choices in. >> ultimate's it's coming out of taxes somewhere. it's a disaster. >> your point is it's inevitable. this is just what happens. >> i also think whether you like or dislike these programs, we should expect a certain basic level of competence. whether you think snowden is a
hero or villain, when our government decides they want to bring him in as a fugitive he would get the paperwork right. he did not put in a passport number. shot clo we called and they said we don't know what to do. this is the most wanted man america wants to find, we get the paperwork right. >> if i employed an editor like that, i would fire him. isn't that part of the problem, nobody ever gets fired? >> there are no repercussions. the witness protection program includes terrorists who cooperate with us. they vanished. two people are on the no-fly list. they changed their identities. they forgot to put their new names on the no-fly list. some got on the aircraft and some had been involved in bomb attacks. basic competence says take this
guy, change his name, add the new name to the no-fly list. no one gets fired. >> in the private sector this would happen for about 20 minutes and be over. that is fascinating and sad. great to see you. thank you very much. on days like today, it's important to keep the faith. we have a special performance from the brooklyn tabernacle choir. they are coming up. ♪ when you experience something great, you want to share it. with everyone. that's why more customers recommend verizon, america's largest 4g lte network.
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two teenagers from china were killed in the asiana flight 214 crash. nearly 200 others injured as well. right now eight remain in critical condition. keep it right here on fox news channel for developments throughout a rendition of the battle him of the republic. the brooklyn tabernacle choir, high praise around the world. >> one of the many songs on their latest cds. love, lead the way. joining us the grammy winning brooklyn tabernacle choir and its music director kevin lewis. thanks so much for joining us. how many members of the choir do you have here? >> about 50 members represented today. >> you've grown in a nine-person choir in the '70s? you are going to sing for us "we lift your name." then we'll talk more. let's hear it. >> sure. >> thanks.
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san francisco. >> we want to leave you with a brooklyn tabernacle choir. you can tune in to the after the show show. log in to foxandfriends.com to hear the amazing ensemble. 50 of them behind us. thank you. fox news alert. new details this morning on the crash of asiana flight 214 in san francisco. two girls in china who were on their way to an experience of a typical american summer are instead now confirmed dead. they were the only two fatalities we have so far in yesterday's crash at san francisco international airport. the chinese girls, a consulate says they were on their way to a summer camp in california. remarkably, though, more than 300 others on board survived that crash. and they are all accounted for this morning. good morning on this sunday morning. welcome to america's news headquarters. i'm eric shawn. >> i'm jamie colby. the national transportation safety board, as you can imagine th