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three consecutive pitches from three difference pitchers. reggie jackson became mr. october 40 years ago today. all rise for the judge! aaron judge up in one hour on fox sports 1. >> neil: all right. a big milestone for the dow. it crosses easily 23,000. now 844 points away from 24,000. at the rate we're going, don't be surprised if that too happens this year. the latest boost to the dow and all of these milestones, of course, anticipation of continued low interest rates or relatively low. but on this day, we scored a 51st record close for the dow, more than any other year in history. also optimism that the tax cuts are going through and better than expected earnings. and for ibm, revenues decline
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but didn't decline as much. that's a weird way of wall street rewarding you for not stinking as much as they feared you might. lauren simonetti outside the new york stock exchange. incredible run, huh? >> a historic day. it's official. dow 23,000. we closed above that level for the first time in history. the question is why. there's so many reasons for you. let's focus on two right now. number 1, ibm. shares rallying by time. best gain for ibm in about anybody years. you can think about gains in hard artificial intelligence. number 2, highlight it. tax reform, this is what the market is waiting for. the president says we're getting tax reform by christmas. what a major boon that would be for the middle class and corporate america. it's one of the reasons that since election day, the markets
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up over 25%. so we asked regular people here on the street, outside the new york stocks exchange, if that uptick makes them nervous. >> more jobs, more revenues, more income for people. more raises. >> 23,000? does that worry you? the markets come up so much. >> yes and no. i worry because my 401(k) could fluctuate. i worry because my job may be on the line. >> would you buy stocks at these crazy high levels? >> no. >> why not? >> the person that advises me tells me not to. >> you don't fear a crash or a sell-off or anything happening? >> there might be a correction soon. >> invest in the stock market? >> no. >> why not? >> i don't know how to do it. >> you know the saying on wall street, when your cab driver tells you to buy stocks, that's
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when the you get out. good news. that cabbie no advice for us today. but i also want to remind you about what tomorrow represents. the 30th anniversary of black monday, the story crash in 1987 when the dow plunged over 22%, the most ever. if you invested then, the dow is un-1,200% and the nasdaq up 2,200%. so translation. if you put $100 into the s&p, it's $1,100 right now. that's good news for people that are saying, well, the market is so high. what do i do? >> neil: a very good point. the trend is your friend, if you're young like you. you weren't born back then. i remember well. >> i forgot to tell you, i got my dow 23,000 cap from the stock exchange. they don't make a lot of them. they're making me give it back.
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>> they didn't try to give me one. it wouldn't fit on my head. >> i have to return it. >> neil: fits easily on yours. thanks, lauren. lauren simonetti. a lot of this seems to be hinging on tax cuts so they say. when they as the treasury secretary of the united states hints what could happen if we don't get the tax cuts, take a look. >> i think to the extent we get the tax deal done, the stock market will go up higher. there's no question in my mind if we don't get it done, you'll see a reversal of a significant amount of these gains. >> neil: this rally gives up ground if they don't materialize soon. art, what do you think of that? >> i think the way you want to think about it is, if the process stops for some reason -- now the process is moving. the house is passing the budget bill. they're in ways and means. we're in the senate. probably passes today. on the budget side, goes to the
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house finance committee. the work that needs to be done is going. the market would be upset if the process halted. as long as the process is moving, the market is fine. i don't think we have to worry about it right now. we're betting on the process and hoping it continues. >> neil: something to what he said. you echoed it, gary. the optimism and earnings and the cleaner balance sheets and earning numbers. you do have to think that if this somehow falls through or if it's dramatically watered down, the markets wouldn't give up some ground. what do you think? >> they will go down. i disagree with mnuchin's words "significant." something has happened the last three months. you've had an economy here and around the globe accelerating which helps earnings, which takes down valuations. combine that with the easy money that is still sloshing around an typically, neil, with where the
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unemployment rate is and where the gdp is, we should be at 5% fed rates. with acceleration with asia and europe, they're still printing money and have negative rates. that's what is fueling a lot of this at this point in time. i don't think the word "significant" is in the cards but i think it will be a hair cut. >> neil: we talk about what the historical norm would be. gary was referring to overnight bank rate known as federal funds. it's about a quarter of what it normally is. we've gotten used to that. it will be jarring when we do get back up to that. what do you think? >> if we get back up to that we have to also go back to normal valuations in stocks. may -- >> neil: never say never, jonas. >> everybody has lived through this. yeah, rates are going back to 10% some day. could be like japan where you have low rates for 20 years and that's the way it is. is the market going to tank? i don't see this rally being built on the likelihood of taxes
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getting done. like not a lot of optimism for major policy getting done. is it a negative? yeah. if we were in a weak economy, it would be a bigger negative to not have a stimulus going through it. at the end of the day, you don't need it to keep the economy strong. we're not on the edge of a recession or a slowing economy. there's no bubble like real estate. it would be nice. a wasted opportunity. it's not going to collapse the stock market. something else might but not a lack of tax cuts. >> neil: art, you an institution. gary you feel like you want to be an institution. a lot of investors look up to you and say all right. i'm hearing this fuss, this melt-up, whatever they're calling it. i want in. i've never been in. what do you tell people? >> a great question. when you look at that you have to look at what your horizon is. right now stocked are fairly valued. there's more upside if earnings
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continue to grow. it appears that is happening if the economies of the world continues to grow and there's not a recession. doesn't feel like we're in a recession territory. investors are probably safe to get to equities. you want to leg back in this market. you'll see pull-backs and save some drive powder for when that happens. it does. >> neil: do you see a wild card in this, interest rates as low as they are and that that in itself could be a bubble? >> look, neil, the definition of a bubble is what central banks have done over the last eight years. taking money, interest rates down to these levels that have never been imagined. i believe there's bubbles in a lot of places. we can talk about these bitcoins, biotech companies with $10 billion market caps with no sales. ibm, sales up $14 billion.
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down the road there will be heck to pay. but right now it feels like we're in a sweet spot and we can't correct two or 3% before buyers show up again. the dynamic can change next week, but as of this second, it's pretty darn strong. >> neil: gentlemen, even though none of you were around the last crash, it's good to have your perspective now. thanks very much. the meantime, the president liking to tout his record-breaking move here for stocks. who can blame him? take a look. >> the stock market hit today 23,000. we're hitting another new high today because there's tremendous optimism having to do with business in our country. just with the stock market alone, we have increased our economic worth by $5.2 trillion. that's since election day. 5.2 trillion. >> neil: it has been the wind at
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his back. but peter kiernan that was there for the 1929 stock market crash. i'm kidding. >> whether a day. >> neil: good to see you. you worry about bragging about a market. ronald reagan was leery talking about the markets because he thought it would curse him or jinx him. what should a president do? he will get the blame if they're going south. >> he's got every right to celebrate. we all feel smarter than we did in 2008. we're up 3,200 in the dow since the election. what troubles me, this notion where it spills over to bragging. i love cheering it on. it deserves it. a lot of terrific things happening. it's not a wise policy. history has shown that those that brag about it tend to get bitten. >> neil: so what is the posture a president should take? ronald reagan slugged through the 87 stock market crash because he didn't fixate on
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minute by minute, date by day movements. but he oversaw a big bull market ram pain. 20 plus million jobs. so where do you draw the line in where you take credit for and don't? >> the key is, are you willing to go out there and say, we together built this amazing turn around. somebody talked about in march of 2009, the dow was 6,900. it's more than tripled since then. something new has come to the party that i haven't seen in a long time. euphoria. suddenly we're seeing people thoroughly excited -- >> neil: but is it too much in is the fear are we getting ahead of ourselves? what do you recommend to people? >> today is a market that we're in. instead of buy low, sell high. today you have to buy high and sell higher. if you look at the economies of the world, every one of those country, 35 plus, has a growing economy and many of them are
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growing faster this year than last year. that is great news even though it's non-u.s. economy, it's great news because of the top 100 brands, most of those brands are u.s. brands. so we're going to see a billion new members of the middle class created by the economic growth outside of our borders. that's great for us. those things make sense. using the stock market of your key of health is dangerous. >> neil: let's say this rally, if donald trump had not been elected about a year ago, where would we be? >> i don't think we would be anywhere close to where we are. what happened was, that night there were a lot of things -- here's what a president can do. a president can move a market by moving sentiment. a president can't sustain a market. a sustained market comes from growth. a president does have the ability to cheer lead a market higher to make those initial moves. once the moves start, a circle is created.
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the wealth effect is created and good things happen. >> neil: thanks, peter. a former goldman sachs partner and best-selling author there for the 1929 crash. >> thank you, a terrible day. >> neil: thank you. too many marks the 30th anniversary of that famous crash. historic parallels between now and then which we'll explore in greater detail. i was there to cover that. i know what your thinking. can't be old enough. that's tomorrow. nfl players, they should stand. the commissioner, the nfl, says they should stand for the national anthem. but he's not demanding they stand. can you stand this? after this. check this out, bro. what's that, broheim? i switched to geico and got more. more savings on car insurance? yeah bro-fessor, and more. like renters insurance. more ways to save. nice, bro-tato chip. that's not all, bro-tein shake. geico has motorcycle and rv insurance, too.
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>> neil: all right. you don't stand? we won't budge. the nfl taking a quasi kind of middle line here on players that don't stand for the national an them. i can't understand it for the
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life of me. rick leventhal can. he's there. what came of this decision on the national anthem? what did they decide here? >> they will not require players to stand for the national anthem. there's no rule change. there's a policy in the league that they should stand, but the league won't make them do it. we heard today from the commissioner, roger goodell says he believes players should stand by he won't make them do it. he says he thinks most players respect the flag and a half a dozen of them are sitting or kneeling. he says the leagues goal is to get that number down to zero by working with the players on community programs and issues important to them. >> i think listening to the players, understanding the players, trying to address those underlying issues and making our communities better is where the opportunity is. that long-term will benefit us. >> owners discussed the possibility of a rule change in
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part because of the p.r. nightmare that these protests have created. tv ratings are down. attendance has suffered. this all started last year with colin kaepernick protesting. so owners have admitted the protests are hurting bare bottom line, but they say they're working with players ant don't want to force them to stand during the national anthem. >> neil: can't force them. rick leventhal, i get the real on this from doug eldridge. i'm sure they had to have that come-to-jesus moment where the owners told the players here's the revenue sharing this year versus last year, which isn't as good as last year. here's what we could be looking at. you could be looking at this next year. but nothing changed really. right? >> it was more of a discussion than a decision per se. when you have a revenue sharing model, you clearly have a vested
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or shared interest. in this context, one of the most important things is what rick teased in the intro. that is sagging viewer ratings. roughly 7.5% down from last year. networks like cbs are saying a third quart 3% shortfall. when you look at what cbs is paying on a per annum basis, a billion dollars that runs through the 2017 season, we talk about 3% corrections, that has a quantifying -- >> neil: and players notice that. obviously the owners. but i would imagine they would impress that on the players regardless to their passioned positions. do you see anything changed with regard to this move today if it was such a move? >> this is a critically important first step. that is create a dialogue. nothing can happen in the
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absence of that. in the last 24 hours, you've had nate bowyer, you've had rob o'neill, a litany of military experts say excellence comes from a commitment to the process. day in and day out focus on the process and the results will achieve themselves. when we look at the players and the owners are coming from, they took the first critical step. to have a dialogue. then you have to define the issue. having large sweeping topics are great for dialogue or sound bite but difficult for charting progress. third, from there, establish a goal. and then more narrow objectives. you have 26 mile markers along a marathon. you have to assure you're on the court and chart progress. your time relative to where you are on the court. fifth and final, the other side of the door, meaning. as owners and players, what do we expect from one idea when we
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get to the other side of the door moving forward, this is the -- >> neil: i agree with you on all of the above. you're the expert. i read a prompter. what i'm fearing, there's not a lot of time to sort this out. with every game this happens, more and more viewers get ticked off. i imagine more and more click-offs. >> so glad you said that. here's why this is so relevant. the decision that the nfl owners and players have to make is number 1, is this a market correction. you mentioned the crash of 87. i lived in west germany with my mom and dad. i still remember where i was. they have to determined whether or not this is a market correction of an organization that is 10 to $14 billion per year or more importantly, is this a ripple effect from 18 months of kneeling during the anthem and viewer fatigue. viewers determine ratings, ratings determine rankings and rankings charge ad rates.
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all of this comes back to the collective pool that the owners and players share, not the least of which is underscored by the big media contract. all of this matters. it all matters. what we can double down for is it took the most critical step today with the dialogue. >> neil: thanks very much. sorry to jump on you. more after this. stick around. whether it's connecting one of the world's most innovative campuses. or bringing wifi to 65,000 fans. businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink.
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>> neil: all right. feeling the pressure again. the president putting pressure on jeff sessions over former fbi director james comey. the president tweeting, fbi confirms report that james comey drafted a letter exonerating hillary clinton long before investigation was completed. comey stated under oath he didn't do this. obviously a fix. where is the justice department?
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indeed. let us ask robert driscoll. he's not happy, robert. this did come up once or twice today. but what do you make of this? how big of a deal is this? >> i don't think it's a huge deal. i think attorney general sessions is recused from russian investigation broadly speaking. so it's not an issue for him. the professionals at the department of justice will ignore tweets like that. the executive branch controls -- and the president controls the department of justice but in a broader policy sense. in day-to-day, you know, decisions on a case like that i don't think they'll take a tweet into account. >> neil: will they take into account the message underlying it? that this is, you know, an fbi that wasn't fair about how it was going to go about its business and did in fact and may still in fact be targeting the present occupant of the white house? >> i mean, i tend to doubt that they would do it without
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evidence. you know, certain parts of the russian investigation are closed. there's new evidence for other parties they'll open it, again, these are professionals, used to dealing with high profile cases. i don't think that the president -- president is understandably reading the paper like an average citizen and complaining that he thinks he's being treated unfairly. >> neil: robert, let me ask you about that. is it unusual if in fact he -- he was a long way from being done to essentially draft a conclusion? >> it sounds a little unusual. i don't think it's unprecede unprecedented. when i was at justice, i had two competing memos drafted. one going one way, one going to other way by different people.
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>> neil: he had one going one way from what we understand. >> and you might build that in advance. it's a little troubling to me. but again, it depends on what his basis was. if it was a legal basis and he thought he knew what secretary clinton was going to say through the other witnesses and he did that preliminary, it's not necessarily the worst thing in the world. the optics are not great. you don't like the idea of having some evidence that it's pre judged. >> neil: you think there's anything weird here? >> there's a few things that are weird about the russia investigation and about secretary comey. you know, there would be a justification to look into a whole lot of these things if public integrity or of section wanted to do it. there's really a small political decision by people lower down by were they want to pick up this hot rock. >> neil: real quickly,
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separating this and the investigation of the white house, this president. do you think this will be concluded or at least we'll have a finding by the end of this year or could this drag many months more? >> it could certainly drag more. i think it would be the interest of the country for it to go sooner. i think it would be appropriate for, you know, deputy attorney general rosenstein or somebody else to put pressure on folks to reach a conclusion to come out one way or the other. having it hang isn't a great benefit to anybody. the least of all, the president. but for anyone else, for the country in general, it's better to clear it up and look what they have and put the resources into it if they think there's something there and make a decision to fish or cut bait. >> neil: thanks, robert. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> neil: the las vegas security guard breaking his silence with ellen degeneres. the latest on how that could affect the entire vegas investigation after this. prudential asked these couples:
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>> neil: a former nfl player reacts to what roger goodell had to say to player who opt out of standing for the national anthem. he would say goodell, i prefer you stand, but they don't have to.
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>> neil: all right. he's alive, he's okay. mandalay bay security guard jesus campos appearing on the
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ellen degeneres show. trace gallagher has more. >> we were told that jesus campos wanted his privacy. instead, he gave ellen his version of what happened. campos said he was on the 31st floor when he got a call about a door left ajar. as he made his way to stephen paddock's room, he noticed the door to the stairwell had a bracket holds it shut. he called for maintenance and the hotel sent stephen shuck. that's when campos believe he got the attention of stephen paddock. at first he heard drilling sounds and then the rapid fire of gun shots. listen to him. >> at first, i took cover. i felt a burning sensation. i went to go lift my pant leg up. i saw the blood. i called it the shots had been fired. i was going to say that i was hit. but i got all over myself to
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clear the radio traffic to coordinate the rest of the call. >> about that time, maintenance worker stephen shuck was coming down the hall. campos told him to get down. campos saved his life. there were questions about the timeline or the clarity of the timeline, which has changed three times. police first said campos diverted the gunman's attention causing him to stop firing on the crowd. later said campos was shot six minutes before the shooting on the crowd began. and then finally said campos was shot within 40 seconds of the mass attack. it's unclear why ellen was chosen for campos one and only interview, know we can tell you mgm, which owns mandalay bay sponsored ellen's show and has her slot machines in all of its casinos. >> neil: wow.
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thanks, trace. does this interview change anything? fox news anchor, gregg jarrett. what do you think, gregg? >> it helps the plaintiffs in their lawsuits against the hotel. because campos says he called immediately. the shooting didn't happen according to las vegas police for another six minutes thereafter. it took almost a full 20 minutes after campos first reported it for las vegas police to arrive. by then, it was all over. so the plaintiffs suing for negligence will say better security that acted more quickly to respond to the shooting could have saved lives and diminished the casualty count. they'll have expert witnesses on security that will say that, plus they'll say there should have been unbreakable glass in the hotel, should have been an inspection of the room after 12 hours of a do it in disturb sign
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on the door nobody and more bag checks. especially a guy bringing in enormous amounts of weaponry in ten different bags over several days. they'll argue that other hotels with better security would have caught him. >> steve wynn has a much tougher screenings and all even for guests prior to this incident at mandalay bay. it's always easy to play the monday morning cop. that's what lawyers will do. >> it is. they'll call steve wynn as a plaintiffs witness because of what he said on television. he has credibility. this is a guy for 40 years developed much of las vegas. he said -- >> neil: talking about steve wynn. >> yes. he set the standard for security in las vegas at many of the hotels and casinos. he's the first guy that installed security cameras on every gaming table.
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so when steve wynn talks about security, he's got credibility and probably in front of a jury. >> neil: you think we have a clear timeline? we're not just getting it right now, that that -- between cameras not only on that floor, but in the casino, outside the casino, the woman who was seen with paddock the night before, that there's a clear video tail as to what he was doing and when? >> there is in the fact that las vegas police didn't get the timeline right the first time. and i understand why they didn't. goodness. you know, it's frantic and frenetic in the days and hours afterwards. it's hard to get your facts together right away. people make mistakes. the plaintiffs will try to exploit that. don't trust the las vegas police because they couldn't get it right from the beginning. >> neil: thanks very much.
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and more on the surprise that iran's supreme leader is calling the u.s.a. bully but a lot of alleys agree with what we did with the reversal on the deal. that should worry you. more after this.
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>> neil: i like the way they do it in iran. call themselves the supreme
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leader. the ayatollah calling the u.s. a bully. what is worrisome, he's getting a sympathetic ear in europe. not the president, the supreme leader. fred, that worries me. obviously they're concerned in europe that this president will walk away from a deal that they say has problems but shouldn't be de-certified. where is this go something. >> this let's think about think. we have the european elites that are trying to dictate solutions to middle east problems, including iran. they're basically condemning president trump's approach to the iran deal. but israel and saudi arabia immediately endorsed the president's approach. we have to consider one reason for this. are all of these trade deals that john kerry aggressively promoted to lock this deal down and make it hard for the next president to pull out. >> neil: so the president wants
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to rework this. he isn't advocating the deal. he said we can toughen it up, add more teeth quoting rex tillerson. can you? >> well, i actually -- i think the prospects of filling this deal are remote. what the president did, he gave congress an opportunity to fix it. i think the president intends to leave the deal unless congress comes through. i don't think the congress expects to fix it. we've heard other signs from other people. i take it from the comment that the president made based on a recommendation from john bolton that he retains the right to pull out of the deal and he will do so if congress doesn't fix it. >> neil: so if i'm iran, i'm looking at this and i'm trying to play -- almost seems like my kids playing off myself and my wife, right? well, you said we couldn't go out, but dade says we can. and i get a feeling that that's what i ran is going to try to do is divide and conquer among the western powers that signed off
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on it. you're being the meany and donald trump signed off of it and now we're ordering planes from you, france and europe and airbus and the like. so come on here. how is that going to go? >> that's right. there's a contract with boeing. these contracts were both announced after iran met its commitments. john kerry was so active in doing this in 2016, he was accused of being a new lobbiest for iran. the iranians know what the game is here. they know this is an incredibly generous deal for them. they don't want to it go away. >> neil: you know and you and i talked about this, if we walk away from this deal, even though it wasn't done and approved by congress so it's technically not a treaty, but walking away from it would send a very and set a very bad precedent. would it? >> i don't think it would set a bad precedent. this deal legitimizes iran's nuclear program. we need permanent sanctions
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against iran barring transfers of nuclear technology and the power of the u.s. economy can force companies worldwide to do that. it's a bad deal. it legitimizes iran's program and allows it to continue to enrich uranium with over 5,000 centrifuges. unless that can be fixed, it's better to get out. >> neil: thanks, fred. thanks very much. i'm going to call you the supreme fred fleitz. be i don't know if it would work. meantime, the nfl's decision on the anthem controversy a lot of people say is a no decision. a former nfl player says no decision could be the best decision. he'll explain. he's next.
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>> we believe everyone should
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stand for the national anthem. that's an important part of our policy. it's also an important part of our game. >> it's a step in the right direction. as we said many times before, the president supports standing for the national anthem, saluting the flag and honoring those men and women in uniform that fight to protect it. >> neil: all right. my read from this from the nfl commissioner, stand but if you don't want to stand, that's fine, too. so i'm at a loss. jack brewer, the brew group ceo, former nfl player. helping us look at this. what was concluded today, jack? i can't understand it. >> i think he definitely calmed the players. a lot of tension. when you have jerry jones that says he's not going to allow his players to play if they kneel -- >> neil: jerry jones of the dallas cowboys. >> yeah. he's powerful as we know in the league. so i think what roger goodell did today was good and was
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needed. >> neil: you think that jerry jones would honor that, if one of his players do that, that hey, the commissioner said they can do that? >> i'm hoping after this last meeting where the owners came together and really talked about the issues. we all live in our bubbles. sometimes you can't see things through others eyes. right now that's what this country needs. those owners needed that. just to be able to hear from the players direct and hear what their voices are saying and their perspective. >> neil: some of the players, you know, were forced into a corner. if they were forced to stand, they would stand and they would be benched and who knows what else. that seems to be taken off the table. but for fans watching, it means those fans are still going to be ticked off, right? >> yes, they are. listen, kneeling for the flag offends a lot of people. >> neil: does it offend you? >> i don't want to say it
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offends me. i personally would stand. but i aren't someone's free speech and their ability to expend themselves. let's not forget, this is a peaceful protest. nobody is hurting anyone. the national football league and its players work tirelessly in the communities. they stand up for this country. we need to realize that. there's six players, maybe seven players kneeling before the president made those outlandish comments. >> that's what got them going, when he was in alabama. the president making these remarks. take a look. >> wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a [bleep] off the field right now, out. he's fired. he's fired. >> neil: all right. now, strong words. a lot of americans agree with that. what do you think? >> it's the tone. right? we're talking about young men. we're not talking about men that are 60 or 70 years old. you're talking about young men
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that are learning their profession and going through different experiences. >> neil: doesn't it re-ignite this whole thing in it was dying -- >> of course it did. i have to go in these plays and seeing kids dropping 0 it over 50%, going in and trying to mentor the young black men that have no fathers, have no guide dense and trying to give them guidance. we have issues that need to be addressed. this is our time. personally i'm glad we're finally having a conversation. i wish it wasn't under such tension. >> neil: i agree with you. good conversation. but i have a sense that time is wasting here. support, viewership for the nfl is going down, down, down. you have to resolve this conversation. one idea kicked about is maybe get involved in charitable efforts and speak to the needs and the issues you address but do it fast. turn it around. >> i'm the national spokesman
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for the police athletic leagues across the country. we try to bridge the gap bringing law enforcement officers with the community they serve. we have epidemics in this country. the areas that we're talking about right now are represented than the police force. we have to better train our police officers. at the end of the day, our president has to take a stance, put hits hand out and shake the hands of the nfl players. invite us to the white house. let's have a conversation and talk to each other -- >> neil: how many would come? >> i don't know. i'll come. i'll bring others with me. >> neil: when this came out, there was a lot of ranting but not about the issues that a lot of these players care about like black on black crime. why not? >> that's what we need to talk about. i talked to hannity about the same thing. i was in baltimore a few weeks ago. over the course of that week, 19 men got shot. when you talk about numbers that high, there's deeper problems that we need to discussion.
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police brutality is an issue in america. black men are incarcerated at too high of a rate in our country. let's talk about how to fix the problem. let's not point fingers, draw the line in the stand. division doesn't make sense. one more thing, neil. most of the people that agree that we have issues, now they're being forced to take a side that they may not necessarily want to take because you're putting the military in it, the flag in it. at the core of this, no nfl players wants to talk against our flag. >> neil: what do you think of pop warner kids doing it now. >> i don't like it. i don't like the rhetoric. i don't like police officers being hated across the board. we have an epidemic with a small percentage of police officers. i don't like telling a kid to kneel against the flag and not teaching them what they represent. we still have the opportunity to
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fight against those things, to speak out and change our laws. because we have our constitution. that's the most powerful thing in this country. >> neil: i think you'll be a crucial player in getting this to the next level. >> i'll give it all i got. >> neil: jack brewer, trying to bridge the gap here between sides. still not appear to be budging. stick around. you're watching fox. more after this. with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember. looking from a fresh perspective can make all the difference. it can provide what we call an unlock: a realization that often reveals a better path forward. at wells fargo, it's our expertise in finding this kind of insight that has lead us to become one of the largest investment and wealth management firms in the country.
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>> neil: 30 years. where has the time gone? after the '87 crash. could history repeated itself? it usually does or comes close in one way, shape, or form. house majority whip steve scalise will join us. you'll see some coverage from 30 years ago. i know i don't look that old. we always come back. i will give you a hint.
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we always, always, always come back. always. see you then. >> kimberly: i'm kimberly guilfoyle with juan williams, jesse watters, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five" ." a big show for you tonight. more breaking news on the anthem controversy. the commissioner of the nfl facing the press today on his decision to how to settle the firestorm following a two day meeting with players and owners. you are going to hear from roger goodell. attorney general jeff sessions back on the hot seat in the senate, fielding questions on the firing of james comey. the trump campaign's contact with russia, and


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