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you one. our ratings prove it. thanks so much for tuning in. good night, everyone, from new york. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." in a pretty remarkable white house press briefing this afternoon, unexpected as well, white house chief of staff john kelly weighed in on president trump's call to the mother of a slain u.s. soldier. he also spoke about the death of his own son in afghanistan seven years ago. kelly went on to sharply criticize floridacr congresswomn frederica wilson.. he called her recent attacks on the president stunning and shameful. kelly pointed out this is not the first time the congresswoman has used the deathnd of others o burnish her own profile. watch. >> i was stunned when i came to work yesterday morning, and brokenhearted at what i saw a
member of congress doing. a member of congress who listened in on a phone call from the president of the united states to a young wife. it stuns me that a member of congress would have listened in on that conversation. absolutely stunsco me. and i thought at least that was sacred.. in october -- april, rather, of 2015, i was still on active duty, and i went to the dedication of the new fbi field office in miami. and it was dedicated to two men who were killed in a firefight in miami against drug traffickers in 1986 -- a guy by the name of grogan and duke. grogan almost retired, 53 years old. duke, i think less than a year on the job. anyways, they got in a gunfight and they were killed. three other fbi agents were there, were wounded, and now retired. w and a congresswoman stood up,ti
and in the long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there in all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building, and how she took care of her because she got the money, and she just called up president obama, and g on that phone call, he gave the moneyth- the $20 million -- to build the building. and she sat down. and we were stunned, stunned that she had done it. even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned. but, you know, none of us went to the press and criticized. none of us stood up and were appalled. we just said, okay, fine. so i still hope, as you write your stories, and i appeal to america, that let's not let this maybe last thing that's held sacred in our
society -- a young man, young woman going out and giving his or her life for our country -- let's try to somehow keep that sacred. but it eroded a great deal yesterday by the selfish behavior of a member of congress.. >> tucker: general kelly spoke for about 18 minutes. his words were both poignant and tough. at times, his voice sounded like an echo from an earlier, better age, a time when there wereug still parts of american life untouched by partisan hatred. "when i was as kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country,"" the general said. "women were g sacred and looked upon with great honor." the same is true, kelly noted, for religion, the armed services, and the dignity of life itself. but, as he noted, that's gone. as if to prove it, the left immediately attacked general kelly and his sentiments. brian fallon tweeted this. "kelly isn't just an enabler of trump, he is a believer inn him. that makes him as odious as the rest. don't be distracted by the uniform."
"odious." in the "new york times," charles blow adding, "i keep telling y'all about john kelly. he signed up to make trump's craziness look less crazy. that makes kelly himself very dangerous." congressman wilson of florida agrees with all of this. "john kelly is trying to keepp his job," she told politico. he will say anything. joining us now, lieutenant: colonel oliver north. thanks for coming on. >> good to see you, tucker. >> tucker: what did youel make of this? >> well, i actually watched it.r i was at walter reed bethesda visiting a very ill member of the service. "stunned" is the right word. shocked, dismayed. i think it is unconscionable what she did by injecting herself into this and by making the accusations. i can tell you from personal experience, the most difficultus thing in the world you have to do, i have done it as a casualty assistance contact officer, when we get wounded overseas during
the war -- i was back in vietnam -- if you got healthyw enough to get around on crutches, they would often assign you a temporary additional duty of being a caco, and your job is to tell the wives of your friends that theyy are now widows. you walked up the walk with a chaplain.en it's the most difficult thing i ever did in the marine corps. and i know what that is like. i have also seen presidents do that. i know that president nixon did it up with friends of mine. i know that president bush did it because i watched him do it, goingng to see the bedsides of dying marines and soldiers and sailors and airmen in that same hospital i was in today, and watch and praying with those guys.y, it's a very, very difficult thing to do, to walk up and tell a woman that you know, and whoto was, just moments before, the day before, was the wife of a friend, that she is now a widow. i just -- i find it to be stunning that she would do thise it tells you an awful lot about
what has happened, as general kelly pointed out in that 18-minute -- >> tucker: society itself. she doesn't like the president, she disagrees with him. that's obviously within bounds. there is evidence that this is entirely political. i want to put it up on the screen. congresswoman wilson's point is, trump doesn't know anything about the family and he doesn't care to explain that. she sent this tweet. "i still stand by my account of the call between donald trump and myeshia johnson. that is her name, mr. trump, not the woman or the wife." the irony here is that she misspelled the widow's name in that tweet.if this is deep phoniness onn display, buffoonish phoniness on display. >> we talked about the fact, 30 years ago this past summer, i was asked to testify. they subpoenaed me. >> tucker: i remember. >> one of the questions that was asked was, the day that you left the white house had to be the worst day of your life, and my answer was, the worst days of
my life were when i held dying marines in my arms and then had to write the families and then sometimes go see them after i came back myself. and what presidents go through in trying to express their condolences, it's such a personal and such a private and such a difficult thing. i find it stunning that somebody could criticize the president for doing what he did. widow johnson received a call that no one ever wants to get, no one ever wants to see somebody walking up their walk with a chaplain with them. and those kind of things happen too often in war. by the way, 56 americanan mility personnel have been killed in training since june. that number came out of walter reeded bethesda today whe i was up there. that's what they told me. 56.. you think about that, all of those people wondering, is some person going to jump up and put it on tv and grouse about
something when this is a moment of bereavement? it is a very, very personal, intimate moment, and she has wrecked it, is what she has done. she is a wrecker. this congressman wilson is a wrecker. >> tucker: i don't have anything to add to that. you said it better thanre anyone could have. thank you for that. i appreciate your time. well, the press has spent months searching for a russia scandal, but in an odd twist, the scandal could be one they have had all along, or for a number of years, anyway. 2010, the obama administration approved a deal giving a russian firm control over 20% of the american uranium reserves. it wasn't very widelyr publicized, but it turned out to be a big deal. president trump today blasted the press, saying this is the real scandal. watch. >> if the mainstream media would cover the uranium scandal and that russia has 20% of the uranium, for whatever reason, and a lot of people understand
what those reasons may be, i think that is your russia story. that's your real russia story. not a story where they talk about collusion and there was none. it was a hoax. the problem is that the mainstream media does not want to cover that story because that affects people they protect. and it is a disgrace that the fake news won't cover it. >> tucker: david tafuri, former state government official who advises the obama campaign -- advised, rather, joins us tonight. david, i'm almost sorry we played that bite, because itca might give viewers the impression this is an inherently political story. there are politics around it, but i'm interested in policy, just as an american, not someone with political views. why is it okay that the obama administration approved the sale of the company that controls 20% of america's uranium reserves to the russians, now described as our mortal enemy? why did they do that?
>> it is a policy issue andl ao a legal issue. this happened in 2010. one thing i disagree with you about is, it was widely known then. in fact, there were republican members of congress who wrote the administration to argue than they should not approve of thisn now, we have a cfius t process. that process has to happen any time a company is going to acquire a company that might impact our national security. most countries don't have that process. it's good we have that process that helps us protect our national security. this deal went through that process. it is a really complex process, 12 agencies of the u.s. government are involved, nine agency heads, makes a final decision.. secretary clinton, secretary of state at the time, was 1 of 9 who approved of that decision. i believe that was a bad policy decision back then, but that was 2010, and right now it'sve quite different. the situation with russia is much more extreme, and russia poses a much more significant threat to our security. >> tucker: for the sake of the
debate, i will concede your point and say that russia is a greater threat than in the past. i don'tan believe that, but i kw you do. a given that, how horrifyingt. mut it be for you to read what has happened to that uranium that the obama administration allowed the russians to control. you have in "the new york times," wyoming landowner on whose land some of these uranium deposits sit saying, i'm watching trucks come onto my property, routinely pack uranium into drums and truck off to a processing plant abroad. uranium one -- this company has no export license. it is winding up off thiss continent. you know exactly where it is going, to places that are dangerous to w the united state, and that's because the obama administration, with hillary clinton as secretary of state, allowed this to happen. why isn't that considered shameful? >> you're right, we have to bere concerned about the export of uranium, but you've overstated what the "new york times"s" article said. >> tucker: how about
terrifying? >> it states that there was one export ofti uranium. to canada, and, by the way -- >> tucker: i'm reading it right here. no, no, let me correct as a factual matter. i'm quoting. "a uranium spokesman, donna wichers, said that 25% had gone to western europe and japan." so we know that 25% of this uranium, we don't have any proof that it went to western europe and japan. we know it left the continent. we don't know if it went to iran or north korea or where it went from there. we have lost control of it. that's the point. >> that you are wrong about creative >> tucker: i'm right about it. >> first of all, western europe and japan are our allies. uranium does not leave the united states without getting an export license -- >> tucker: false, false. false. they have no export license. that's the whole point of the story. they don't havee an export license. >> we could argue about this story -- the more important point of the story is how this deal got approved.
with respect to the export of uranium, i haven't heard anyone say that it made it to anywhere improper. >> tucker: that's not true. >> in one situation, it went to canada, and it was the trucking company that had the export license. >> tucker: you're not following this. there is no export license to take this out of the country. but we don't control it, the russians do, because the obama people and hillary clinton allowed this to happen. if you think the russia scandal is, indeed, a scandal, and you do and you've argued it here, then how is this not a scandal at much greater magnitude? this is a huge deal that threatens our national security, but nobody seems to care because it's obama and clinton. let's beod real. >> if this is a scandal, this is a scandal for the trump administration, it means during the trump administration, this uranium is leaving the country without having proper licenses. >> tucker: they ought to shut this down right now. i couldn't agreeio with you mor. >> you should be arguing against it -- >> tucker: i'm a arguing that anyone who is allowing this is inhi the wrong and is a threat to us, but the genesis of this -- and it is ongoing to this day -- is this deal. now, the clinton foundation
took, through their foundations, over a hundred million dollars in this uranium country. how isis is not quid pro quo? it is a deal you yourself said was a bad deal. they approved it, the clintons took over $100 million during that period. why is that not an actual scandal? not a nonsense d.c. scandal? >> let's break that down. the clintons did not take $100 million. $100 million went in charitable donations to the clinton foundation, and the clinton foundation used that money for charitable purposes. >> tucker: we don't know what they used it for. that's not true. >> we have their tax returns. i have reviewed their tax returns. >> tucker: i've seen this tax returns, too, but to stay what are charitablev endeavors -- the point is, they control it.ti it went to their foundations. why do you think, by the way, why do you think investors in the uranium company would be giving $145 million to the clintons? honestly? >> these are american, canadian, and russians who were involved somehow in the deal. i agree with you -- i agree with
you that it is dubious, although i don't agree that just giving money to a charity somehow influenced the clintons. >> tucker: let's stop pretending! they're not giving money because they care about childhood obesity or cholera. they're giving it because they want the deal to go through. you know that. >> i don't think it is fair of you to say that bill and' hillary clinton don't care about some of the charitable purposes. >> the more concerning issue is that bill clinton took speaker fees from a russian investment firm that was also involved in this deal in 2010 near the time of that. >> tucker: i agree. thank you. >> that is more significant. the question is, did bill influencen hillary, and did hillary influenced the cfius committee, ands, did she somehow influence the other eight people? and there is no evidence. >> tucker: everything about it from the policy to the payoffs his sleazy and wrong. and you are admitting it. i appreciatero it. >> the policy is bad. there is nothing illegal. >> tucker: nothing illegal! david tafuri, thank you for joining us. how did harvey weinstein's behavior go unreported for so long? new information on how
"the new york times" killed that original story more than ten years ago from the reporter who wrote it. she joins us next. ♪ stroke stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. but no matter where i ride, i go for my best. so if there's something better than warfarin, i'll go for that too. eliquis. eliquis reduced the risk of stroke better than warfarin, plus had less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis had both. don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily... ...and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about
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♪ >> tucker: there is still a lot of unanswered questions in the harvey weinstein scandal but only a few involve weinstein himself. instead, the biggest question now is how so many people, including smart ones, journalists, actors, producers, knew about weinstein's behaviorn and didn't reveal it for years. sharon waxman is the founder
of "the wrap," but before that, she was at "the new york times" as a reporter, and she was ready to expose weinstein's deeds 13 years ago, and an editor scuttled her story. now she says that story was killed after weinstein himself came to "the new york times" newsroom to argue against it. sharon waxman joins us tonight for the second time. sharon, thanks for t coming bac. i'm glad you came because i think this is one of the most interesting stories, not that "the new i york times," in the end, revealed it. they are not solely at fault. but it is a window into how the story didn't come out earlier, and you are at the center of it. what do you know now that you didn't know when last we talked about why your story didn't run? >> well, i had heard at the time that harvey had come to the newsroom, and i said that in the post that i originally wrote, which basically called out the fact that "the new york times" was, to my mind, kind of self-congratulating and saying, nobody else in the media was going to reveal this until wee did, and that was what propelled me to say, hey, guys, actually, we did try to get the story in
the paper three years ago, and what ended up in print was way diminished and didn't have context and didn't make any sense. and what my understanding was is that harvey weinstein went to war to get this not to appear in "the new york times," whichat is, of course, what he does. and i had said at the time, matt damon called me, which i knew. russell crowe called me, which i knew. then i heard that he came a to newsroom in order to get the editors not to run the story or to kill the story. i was told "the new york times" went on the record and said he spoke to the former manager editor and said they had no recollection of any such meeting. i thought, wow, i must have a really bad memory. >> tucker: [laughs] >> in the meantime, three different people have come forward to say, no, there was a meeting.uc and a colorful detail thatre harvey weinstein and david boies, his lawyer, were circling in a town car desperately trying to get a meeting with bill
keller until they got one and that they came into the newsroom and that it was the talk of the building. and i don't know the conversation was, but obviously they were not exchanging recipes. so, again, let me be clear. that doesn't mean that they swayed bill keller, the editor at the time, but, again, just my pointing outil "the new york times" doesn't like anybody to call them out on things. i get that. but it is true that that meeting happened, that both bill keller and the others said they have no recollection of it ever occurring. the meeting did occur, there was severe pressure, and all i know is that my story appeared without any reference to womeni or sexual anything at all. >> tucker: that's incredible. we should say, "the new york times" did attack you personally after you noted that your original story had been altered to take out all the interesting stuff.s" do you think it is possible -- rhetorical question here -- that you could forget a meeting with david boies and harvey weinstein in your own newsroom? >> that's an interesting
question. well, what bill keller came back and said to me was somewhat equivocal. he said, i do remember that c there was a meeting with harvey weinstein and david boies, but i think it wash about a different story in 2007. so i came back to him and i said, "no, bill, that may well be they had that meeting, but what i'm asking about isis specifically this meeting in4 2004, in the fall. three people remember it, including a former editor." he chose not to answer. basically he's saying i'm sour grapes because i didn't get the story, which is not what it's about for me. it's about whether we could have exposed this earlier and perhaps saved some women the suffering or the trials of having been preyed upon. and i didn't have the whole story. i'm not trying to assert that. the story i had had to do with a guy in italy who was on the disney payroll whose jobb was essentially to procure women for him. and now there are a ton of women coming out and corroborating that story. >> tucker: it would have
changed everything if that had run. you are obviously a dogged reporter. thank you for filling us in. sharon waxman, thanks. >> yes, i am. yeah, thanks, tucker. >> tucker: several women at this point have accused harvey weinstein of rape and nowd it appears possible those could become criminal charges. an unnamed model and actress who says weinstein raped in 2013 spoke with the nypd today. for nearly two hours today. also in utah where he allegedly raped actress rose mcgowan back in 1997. emily compagno, an attorney, joins us tonight. emily, as a non-lawyer, my understanding is there is no statute of limitations on rape charges, is that right? >> it depends on the state. in 2008, utah did away with the statue of limitations for rape, and that is why they have a small legal loophole that matters here. they have what is known as
absentee tolling. if someone is accused of a crime but leaves the state borders, the statute of limitations stops until and unless they return toe that state. so all that matters here for weinstein to be able to be able to be prosecuted in that state is that rose mcgowan's case was good in 2007 when they did away with that. because of absentee tolling, it is possible. not only would be a refreshing relief for a state to prosecute him, but it would be legally sound. now, there have been constitutional challenges to this, but the utah supreme court has ruled specifically this pattern, this fact pattern on behalf of the victim and the d.a., and the united states supreme court has ruled that this violence against women inside state borders is not subject to the commerce clause. it means that, on weinstein'sun behalf, touchingpr aor on feder, that it won't work here. it's just civil precedents. here it will be sound. >> tucker: so it sounds like
he could end up being jailed. could the stateil of utah, for example, bring charges against him without the cooperation of rose mcgowan? does she have to agree to testify against him or could they go ahead anyway? >> they could go ahead anyway. of course, historical crimes,ats they are called, those in the past, they are difficult to prosecute because of witness corroboration, that pales in memory and credibility, let alone whether a victim agrees to testify. a 20-year-old rape is just as deserving of prosecution as a recent one, and the utah d.a. can absolutely proceed. >> tucker: this is going in a direction i bet he did not expect. emily, thank you for that. >> thank you. >> tucker: well, the shooting in las vegas, the aftermath, ought to be a search for truth.t so why is mgm, the casino company, letting it become aor battle for the bottom line? there is a lot of pr machinations going on you may not be aware of. up next, we want to tell you i about the bizarre way that the mandalay bay security guard, jesus campos, was apparently
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he gave an interview on the h "ellen degeneres show," part of a marketing push by mgm, who owns mandalay bay and operates several ellen-themed slot machines. >> i have a brand-new slot machine, it is from igt and has new bonuses that are so much fun. i was in vegas and went to the mgm grand and surprised some people that were playing my machine, and here's what happened.as wow, come on!e >> oh, my god! oh, my god, oh, my god! >> tucker: so now the "daily mail" is reporting that mgm, the company that makes those slot machines, insisted that campos appear only on ellen degeneres' show, insisting that any others could alter the position of the shooting timeline. and affect their legal position. chris spargo is a "dailyoo mail" reporter and he joins us tonight.
chris, this sounds like part of -- i don't know if cover-up is too strong or not -- part of a marketing effort that sounds designed to spin rather than explain the facts to the public. >> that's exactly it. we heard last week that jesus campos was going to give five interviews on thursday, and after two and a half weeks, we were all looking for answers. so many things still lingering about the shooting.. then a few days before, a he jut disappears and we don't hear anything at all. then we learn in tuesday night, that he is going to do "ellen degeneres," of alls h shows. they confirmed that this is all mgm. they were concerned about the timeline, which keeps changingws in this case, and that jesuss would not be able to keep it straight if he was put on hard talk shows or news organizations and put under pressure about it. >> tucker: look, i feel for campos.at he didn't do anything wrong. he was walking by, shot or hit by a ricochet -- still not clear what happened. i'm just asking an honest question when i ask you, why is he a hero exactly? ellen degeneres did thisqu thing, you're a hero, we're
celebrating you, where does the hero thing come in? according to the timeline i'm confused.ng -- what does that mean? >> the original timeline hadnf m showing up at 10:14, a minute before the shooting stopped. then the second timeline came out, which is when he was heralded as a hero, said he arrived at 9:59, 6 minutes before it started. that is the timeline that caused these problems where people are saying, if he was here 6 minutes before and it took the police this time to get to the room, there is clearly some miscommunication. did mgm not tell the police? what is going on here? r now you have victims, victims' families, thinking if you didn't call the police for 6 minutes, what could have been saved? >> tucker: have we settled on a timeline exactly or have authorities givens us a definitive timeline that makes sense? >> here's the other part. jesus' interviews were going to be thursday. on friday, after they were canceled, we get a thirdft timeline, has him arriving as the shooting starts, the police
arriving at 10:17, a reasonable amount of time. everyone seems to have worked in proper ways and through protocol. >> tucker: okay. and we're certain that's real? i mean, there are federal investigators, presumably, at the heart of this investigation, they introduced themselves to us on television a couple of weeks ago. what are they saying? has anybody said, there is a lot of confusion, we are saying, definitively, we know that make this. >> you can't sayni anything definitively. so much has changed. so many questions about this, and every single version keeps changing. no one is really saying a lot right now, but as of friday, that is what they are saying. >> tucker: has law enforcement said anything about the fact that mgm, a for-profit companyy and in whose hotel this tragedy took place, is controlling the narrative here? >> we couldn't get anytr respone when we asked about that. "why are you changing the timeline? the way it is happening is weird. the timing is suspect." no response whatsoever. >> tucker: there is a huge crime, biggest shooting in modern american history.
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>> tucker: hurricane maria hit puerto rico a month ago pretty hard, but the political battle over rebuilding the islandri continues. prior to a meeting with the puerto rican governor, ricardo rossello today, president trump rated the american response to thego disaster perfect 10 of 10. a lot of people p not only disagree, they say the relief effort is subpar, specifically because trump is racist against puerto ricans. watch. >> there is a double standard, which i really believe is bigoted in terms of the response
that he has to puerto ricans. >> he is talking to his pectoral base.er he is showing us that he is just racist. let's call it by its name.ha >> you have hispanics in puerto rico. he sees them as the others,as nt his white supporters. these are people that do not look like the overwhelming majority of his donors. >> tucker: god, there are a lot of dumb people on tv. is trump actually bungling the hurricane response just because he is a racist goon? we have evangeline gomez, an attorney and commentator. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: if you're going to make the case that the federal government is screwing up a response to a hurricane -- i'm absolutely willing to believe that. they screw up a lot of things. i just don't understand the evidence for racism in this. that seems like an entirely different category. why is this racist? >> to the people who make that argument, they have seen hisis tweets, the tweets implying the
puerto ricans were lazy, they weren't helping one another, they're relying on the federal government to help them when they could've done these things themselves -- which was impossible. and today, when he spoke with governor rossello, he admitted it. this is an unprecedented situation, it's worse than katrina -- those were trump's words exactly. so the tweets, the throwing of the paper rolls, that made people there feel like, what, do you think we're beneath you? why are we getting this treatment? that and the delay. there are some people who think the delay occurred becausetm puerto ricans are different somewhat culturally -- different surnames, speak a different language -- because they are removed, and because he does not see them as a state and they don't have the political power and electoral votes. maybe if they had electoralt votes, they would have received a different response. these are the arguments that are out there. >> tucker: but they are actually not a state. it's not a state, it's a colony, it's a territory. that's a whole separate conversation. i'm not sure why the left suddenly supports colonialism. whatever.
>> it's not colonialism. >> tucker: as a factual matter, puerto rico is 75%en white, according to the u.s. census. i'm not sure how it's -- i'm reading the census numbers. i'm not sure how that's racist. maybe he doesn't like puerto ricans or maybe -- >> tucker, that's a great t poit that you bring up. a lot of people don't understand that, in puerto rico, you have the mixture of the african culture, the indian culture, and european culture. so there are many people such as myself -- look at my background. i have asian, chinese in me. there is a mixture of people, ethnicities, races. you really can't say, i'm white, i'm black, i'm other.e, it's very complex. when it comes to the puerto rican identity. >> tucker: you're sort of making my point. it's very complex.. the census is self-reported.x. 75% of the people on puerto rico said, i'm white. >> that is self-reporting. that is on the census. mean?oes white >> tucker: that is what people say they are. i'm only saying -- look, i'm not defending the federal response to anything. i would never do that. i always assume it is going to be lameto and late, although, by the way, dod and fema were there before the storm, just so you know.
but the race angle bothers me because it is unfounded, it makes people hate each other, and it's just stupid. this is a place that is more white than many u.s. states, including our biggest state, california. >> i disagree with you on that. latinos and hispanics, there's a difference we tune white, hispanic, and less tino. latino. >> tucker: what is the difference? >> because they are hispanic, they are latino, they speak a different language. >> tucker: it's not a race. >> it's not a race, language is a language. the issue here is that many people feel that the response was delayed. >> tucker: you can't explain what you're saying is what you are saying.ay >> and they are people who speak to -- relatives of people in puerto rico and people in puerto rico. depending on how you ask, people will say it's not a 10. no electricity, contaminated water -- >> tucker: i get it.e it's not a surprise. houston, katrina, there are a lot of responses the government is late on. it's when you start alleging a
conspiracy based on racism that scares the hell out of people, it divides people, and there is no evidence on it, you presented none. that crosses the line. >> that is not my argument. i did not say it was based on race. that is not my argument. you asked me about people making this argument and i explained why some people felt that way. maybe some people should use the term "bigotry." i did not say that was my response. >> tucker: but i'm wondering why,y, if we are against colonialism, that we maintain puerto rico as a colony.uc why can't puertowe rico become a country?t i don't really understand that. what is the justification for keeping a country in this weird half -- no, i'm serious -- in this weird half-life where you don't pay federal income taxes, but you are american citizens but you can't vote when you're on the island. this is colonialism. >> in the last election, tucker -- pardon me, but in the last election, they voted to become a state. many people there voted for puerto rico to become a part of the united states. and that is exactly the reality right now. and that something that should be discussed. a reporter brought up that question to trump, and he said
he couldn't speak to it because it was political. but these are conversations thau should be going on. they are americans.s. it's not lesser than texas, it's not lesser than florida. they are u.s. citizens. >> tucker: they don't pay income taxes. it's a little complicated, as reported. evangeline, thank you. >> thank you, tucker, you have a great night. >> tucker: time for "final exam." who will triumph? if you're mad at the media, you might want to watch this. we'll be right back. when you have a cold
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catharsis. it's time for "final exam," where we test which of our news experts actually reads the news. joining us this week, kathryn lyons, managing editor, as well as fox correspondent peter doocy. are you ready? >> no. >> tucker: good. >> supposed to read the news?gde >> tucker:sp [laughs] not simply reported but read it. it but read it. we're going to find out if you have. put your hands on the buzzers, i'm going to ask a series of questions. the first one of you who buzzes gets to answer first. you must wait until i finish asking the question to do that. every correct answer is worth one point. if you get it wrong, you lose a point.to best of five wins.. are you prepared? >> not really. >> tucker: that is how we like it. despite speculation of a 2020 presidential run,l which media mogul said this week she hadik zero interest in becoming theon next president? [buzzer] >> it's oprah. >> tucker: oprah, saysro peter doocy. to the tape we go. >> i'm wondering if you'd narrowed down your short list of vp candidates? >> there will be no running for office of any kind for me. >> tucker: but still going to be on the cover of her magazine every week, just a guess.
peter doocy, the question goes to you. >> i didn't know you were finished. >> tucker: i'm going to be more definitive with the period this time.do question two. there was a four-legged animal on the loose in brooklyn, new york, this week after escaping a slaughterhouse. what kind of animal was it? [buzzer] peter doocy again the first to buzz in. >> it was a bull. >> tucker: it was a bull? >> it was able. we're going to go to the tape and tell you if you're right. >> we'll tell you about another attempt to outrun the cops. it is a bull versus the cops ine brooklyn. go bull! the bull got cut loose from a slaughterhouse, chased him through prospect park. a bunch of people stopped to watch. of course, it's brooklyn, so a bunch didn't notice. >> tucker: so you are watching shepard in the daytime. by the way,as slaughterhouse is a tip-off. this was not a horse. this is not france. >> this is bull. i think my buzzer is broken. >> tucker: [laughter] a little faster this time, kathryn. question three. a barely recognizable christian
bale, who is an actor, was spotted this week filming his new movie where he is playing which former vice president of the united states? go. [buzzer] peter doocy again. >> is your buzzer is not working? because if your buzzer's not working -- >> tucker: i think it's a bit of a delayed reaction. >> i am saying it is broken. >> richard cheney. >> tucker: richard cheney, richard b. cheney. to the tape. >> christian bale spotted inin full makeup to play former vice president dick cheney. >> that is good. >> tucker: [laughs] that's pretty good. kathryn, this looks like your waterloo, but i think it is at least mathematically possible for you to still win if peter messes up and you prevail. >> fingers crossed. >> tucker: question four, this is a multiple-choice question. "national geographic" has
released its list of the happiest cities in america. the winner this year is which city in colorado? a, denver, b, aspen, c, boulder. [buzzer] kathryn lyons. >> boulder. >> tucker: boulder, colorado, says kathryn lyons. to theke tape we go. >> people bike there, as opposed for driving. the streets are made for humans and not just for cars. there's no billboards, and it also happens to be the place that produces arguably the most olympic athletes in the country. >> the answer, boulder, colorado. >> yes, finally. >> no bulls in the streets. >> that is why they are so happ happy! >> they said that one of the selling pointss for boulder is thatat the streets were built fr humans as opposed to what? >> tucker: it would be aspen, but apparently nobody can live there. final question, you ready?ou it is a war on halloween. people are enraged over an immigration-themed costume being sold at party city. which controversial costume are people -- people being the left -- most upset about? [buzzer]
peter doocy? >> the wall. >> tucker: the wall? there's a wall costume. can i just ask, do you agree with that? the wall? if you'd won? >> i don't disagree. >> tucker: i don't disagree. safe answer. you are a natural washingtonian. >> party city is being called for a party foul for selling a costume of donald trump's controversial border wall. men have complained it's insensitive and women are complaining because there is no way to make a slutty border wall. >> tucker: [laughs] by the way, there probably is. the wall, you're right, peter doocy. how did you know that? >> it's almost halloween and i investigating all costumes. theme for things -- >> match kennedy over on fox business. i appreciate it. peter, you win. consolation prize goes to you. >> that's all i want. >> tucker: we have to make it first, but we'll give it to you when we do.
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so, congratulations. that is it for us tonight. every night at 8:00, the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. the great sean hannity is next in new york. hey, sean. >> sean: welcome to "hannity." we are broadcasting from the great city of las vegass for a very important reason. we are going to tell you whye later in the show. we have major breakingo news development in the real russia collusion scandal. weighing in heavily on this scandal, take a look. >> if the mainstream media will cover the uranium scandal and that russia has 20% of our uranium for whatever reason and a lot of people understand what those reasons may be, i thinkve that is your russia story. that is your real russia story. >> sean: we will have the president's full remarks all coming up tonight. meanwhile, the left-wing mainstream media has been lying to you for over a year about