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gondola down or reverse the order or you do this. fair, balanced, and unafraid. >> martha: breaking tonight, ray moore is defiant and his would-be fellow senators are " "disturbed and horrified" as the allegations of sexual misconduct hits. the evangelical conservative firebrand now republican candidate for u.s. senate in alabama is the subject tonight of an explosive new report that he says is a hit job. it was just released by "the washington post." the report says this "nearly 40 years ago, the then 32-year-old made unwanted sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl. three other women say he also
pursued them." moore called the whole thing a baseless attack. here's a statement from his campaign. "moore has endured more attacks than any in the arena still, a bipartisan force on capitol hill is calling for him to step down from his nomination." and henry joins us live from capitol hill. >> brand-new this hour, roy moore has gone on a tweet storm charging that this is what he calls the "obama-clinton machine" coming at him. he has vowing he will never go up the fight so he is pushing back hard and caught in the middle is the sentry publican leader mitch mcconnell who has been warning steve bannon and others to be careful with these
antiestablishment republican candidates who can win g.o.p. primaries but might lose in the general election and put president trump's agenda and further peril. mcconnell can't celebrate because he has to do with the practical reality that moore is now facing a december 12th sexual election that republicans must won dominic dominic dimock a woman claims that when she was 14 years old, moore took her to his home and touched her bra and panties. "the washington post" has already endorsed the judges opponent and four months, they've engaged in a systematic campaign to distort the truth and derail his campaign.
"the washington post" insists the woman did not come to them looking for publicity. the newspaper says they found her after hearing rumors about his behavior decades ago and found three other women who accused moore of resuming them and they were between the ages of 16-19. if the allegations are true, moore should step aside, susan collins, john mccain, and others are saying it doesn't matter, they don't even want an investigation. mccain saying the allegations against roy moore are deeply disturbing. he should immediately step aside and allow the people of alabama to elect a candidate they can be proud of. here's the thing, if moore ends up quitting, his name would still stay on the ballot for the early december a special election fill attorney general jeff sessions' old seat. the ballot can be reprinted within 76 days of the special election.
yesterday, steve bannon told fox that it was mcconnell who should step aside. >> i think mitch mcconnell ought to tenure his resignation. we can't do it in the middle of taxes, but mitch mcconnell tomorrow should tender his resignation and say after we get taxes done, i will step aside and we'll have a revote on the majority leader. >> you see this as part a bigger struggle with the establishment waiting within the republican party. the bottom line is if republicans lose this seat and alabama, martha, democrats could win, get that seat, and all of a sudden, tax cuts and other key parts of the president's agenda and much bigger danger. >> martha: are very slim margin, 52 in the senate and this would be problematic for them to be sure. ed, thank you so much. good to see you. here with moore, david wahl and a.b. stoddard.
good to have you here. david, you're defending roy moore in this situation? >> the timing of these allegations, one month before the election makes them highly suspect. let me get this straight, these acts allegedly took place in 1979 and her first disclosure is 30 years later, not to law-enforcement, but to a newspaper who has endorsed roy moore's opponent and is hell-bent on taking him down. i'm sorry, the credibility is completely zero. president trump went through the same thing in the election, three, may be for -- >> they weren't 14-year-old girls. >> one was, one said it happened when she was 13. she dismissed her complaint against him shortly thereafter. she also admits she was suffering from drug addiction, alcohol abuse. >> martha: it's not a question of her character, it's a question of his character, he was the adult, he was 32 years
old. she said i went along with it, i went to his house a couple of times. it's not really that question of her going, it's a question of whether or not he did this. i understand this is a hugely politically charged environment. his opponents are looking for anything they possibly can find to take him down the long-held republic and seat. the question is whether or not this happened and whether or not voters will hold that against him. a.b.? >> this is an impossible situation for republicans who are calling him not to run or to step down from his nomination because this is not summing that can be proven, or prosecuted prosecuted. you see the senators in washington saying this is no place for someone like this. his candidacy is not sustainable if these allegations are true. we have no way of knowing to prove that to be true and then
you have alabama republicans defending him and you have his campaign basically saying -- all of this coming out and as ed pointed out, within the 76 day mark, he's really protected legally and he is not going to step down. this is not a situation republicans will be able to get out of. i think they're going to have roy moore in the senate on december 13th unless this energizes democrats and he loses the election. >> martha: up by 60% right now now. some people, lisa murkowski among them who is a right in candidate herself in 2010 suggest people write and both are strange. >> i think it's absolutely outrageous for senators like john mccain to be presuming moore guilty. that's not america. this is something that is a
politically opportune accusation, i get that. the allegations do not hold water at this point. it's more likely that moore's supporters are going to be energized just let mr. trump's were under these allegations when allegations like this are made that appear to be politically -- a political witch hunt. i guarantee you they're not going to give up and he's going to win by more than 6% and is going to be another failed attempt by "washington post" to take down somebody that they object to politically. >> martha: another ugly story in an ugly political season to be sure. thank you both. also parking tonight, one party with two different plans. the house and senate releasing their bills tonight. there are some very big differences, so what do they mean for you? are you actually going to get a tax cut from either one of these programs or with a come up with in the middle? white house economic advisor gary cohen joins me on that. in the dismantling of the democratic party in a fever
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>> president trump believes the time has come to cut taxes across the board for working families, small businesses, and family farms. >> martha: that was vice president mike pence just a little while ago and his home state of indiana. late this afternoon, the g.o.p. tax reform bill barely making out of committee. ed is expected to go to the full house floor at this next week. also on the other side of the building, you have the senate releasing their tax plan and it has some stark differences. in moments, we're going to talk to chief white house economic advisor gary cohen, but we been given to my stomach began with ed henry again tonight
>> as you said, busy day appear. his spokeswoman sarah sanders a moment ago putting out a statement saying this was a huge step forward today on taxes toward getting his biggest victory in office, saying this will be massive tax relief for our viewers. the tax packages moved to the house floor as you noted. kevin brady offered an amendment to fine-tune the plan. on one hand, the senate bill with delay the slashing of corporate taxes that the president had been touting so much and that could turn off conservatives, but the package also offers some improved benefits to the middle class that could help bring along
wavering republicans in maybe even some modern democrats in the senate. here's what it had come of senate plan. but the house and senate would reduce the corporate rate to 20% from 35%, but the senate would do that after a one-year delay. that's aimed at satisfying deficit hawks who want to keep costs down, but delaying implementation will slow the impact on the economy. the house wants to cap mortgage interest reduction to a $500,000. the senate would permit up to $1 million. democrats say that's a huge problem in high tax states like new york and california and would put the public and majorities in jeopardy and the midterms, but g.o.p. leaders insist will be fine because they are delivering on a promise to the american people. >> senate republicans are telling house republicans there will be no compromise on state and local deductibility. it's a full repeal or bust.
senate republicans need the race by ending this popular middle-class deduction. speak out this is about improving people's lives and mag a positive difference and i fundamentally believe when we do this, make good on our word and promise and make people's lives better, we're going to be just fine politically. >> the goal is to get a final bill to the president's desk by christmas, but that is going to be hard with these policy differences and i was at a twist tonight about whether or not roy moore can get that alabama senate seat in republican hands. >> martha: ed, thank you very much. wall street obviously watching all of this very closely. the market has been up dramatically over 22% since president trump took office, but today, it backed off a bit. it's relative when you look at it, 23,000, not even at half a percentage. analysts are concerned about whether the republic and legislation
can actually pass.
joining me now, gary cohen, chief of economic advisor to the president. thank you for joining me. first i want to ask about this story that is very much in the news that we lead with tonight and that is the question of roy moore. does the white house believe that roy moore should continue to run for that seat in alabama? >> martha, thank you for having me. i enjoy the opportunity to be with you this evening. we have not seen all the facts yet and the white house is waiting for the facts until we make a decision. >> martha: luther strange was president trump's candidate. is there any potential he may call for the voters in alabama to write him in and go back to when he pushed for initially? >> like i said, we are waiting to see the facts and once we see all the facts, the president will have an opinion on this situation. >> martha: all right. we'll get more on that as it comes out, as you say. and terms of what happened on the hill today, obviously the market backed off a bit because the market had a huge run,
largely on the notion that corporations are going to get a nice big tax cut, 20%. how do you feel about the fact that they might not get it for another year? >> i'm not sure that's why the markets been running. the market goes up and down. as you just pointed out, we had less than a half percent pullback in the start market today. i think the market is going up because american businesses have been doing better and better as the economy continues to grow. our job is to make sure of the economy does continue to grow and we help american businesses compete in a competitive global environment. our plan is to aim to make sure we lower the business tax rate and our u.s. businesses can compete in a very competitive environment. we are very excited about what happened today. as you mentioned, we did get the house plan out of the ways and means committee and the senate did introduce their plan today which will go into committee next week. >> martha: what you think -- what are you most concerned
about? >> i'm not concerned about any of the differences. we are going through regular order, normal process, regular committees in both the house and senate and this is exactly what we told people was going to happen. we are on the schedule we said we would be on. before relief for thanks giving next weekend, we hope and we're pretty optimistic that the house will have voted their bill out and the senate will be the committee process. a lot of people doubted we could be at that place by thanksgivin thanksgiving. >> martha: to the senate democrats, the president said you're going to like the senate bill demo better. that reminded me of the obamacare battle where he said to the senators, the house version is mean, but we are going to do something better in the senate. that's not going to roll over very well with her colleagues the house side. >> i think the president and the white house likes both versions. >> martha: why is he saying they're going to like the senate version better?
>> i think the president likes both versions because look at what they both do. they both attacked both of his goals. the president set out to primary objectives. number one, a middle income tax cut and number two lowering the tax rate and making it more competitive so we can deliver real wage growth to hardworking americans. both plans do that so the president is very supportive of both of these plans. >> martha: jeff flake saying he's not so sure about this deal in the senate, he doesn't like it a lot, there is likely to be more dissent from senate republicans as well. does the president feel he can't catch a break from his own party in the senate? >> he's very optimistic about this tax bill, it does everything he set out to do and everything he told the voters he was going to do with tax reform. >> martha: i get it, so he's happy with what it looks like. he thinks he can pass, will he get any senate democrats to pass it? does he think he needs that?
>> we would love to have senate democrats. we've been spinning a lot of times with senate democrats. i think you know that we met with a group of 12 democrats that senator mansion put together. >> martha: how many do you think you can get on board with this bill? >> we heard from many democrats there is a possibility we could get 70 or 80 votes on this. when we continue to meet with the democrats and we are happy o meet with them. >> martha: gary cohen, thank you very much
for coming back tonight. still ahead this evening within the hour, president trump leaves china on the heels of a very high-stakes meeting he had with trade and north korea. he said some very interesting things while he was in china and we're going to talk about it with karl rove, but first, donna brazile is doing her best to take down an already splintered democratic party with some very fiery new allegations tonight. our panel coming up next to take
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>> martha: the democrats saying not cool by their tuesday night wins. donna brazile is upping the ante again as she takes on the clinton establishment. on tucker carlson's show last night, she admitted that she didn't give hillary clinton the big questions, but she gave them to bernie sanders and martin o'malley. she claims she wanted all the candidates to see the moderator's questions. that is not how it's supposed to work, folks. >> these were active managers. you never got a chance to see the things i gave to bernie or martin o'malley. what i try to do was ensure that we have these issues on the table and i made sure that our candidates, i didn't want them blindsided. that's what i'm here to do.
>> martha: trace gallagher joins us with the back story on this. >> donna brazile leaked that campaign question to the clinton campaign one day before cnn was airing a primary debate in flint, michigan, a city that was in the middle of a lead contaminated drinking water scandal. "one of the questions directed to hrc is a woman with a rash. her family has lead poisoning and she will ask what, if anything, hillary will do to help the people of flint." now listen to one of the questions. >> after my family, the city of flint, and the children of d.c. were poisoned by lead, will you make a personal promise to me right now that as president in your first 100 days in office, you will make it a requirement that all public water systems must remove all led water signs
in the entire united states? >> brazile now claims she wasn't trying to give her an edge, she was trying to warn her about the topics. brazile also now is claiming she never said the primary was rigged in hillary's favor, but here's what she wrote. "i had promised bernie sanders when i took the position of interim chair of the dnc that i would get to the bottom of whether or not hillary's team had rigged the party process in her favor so that only she could win the nomination." she goes on to write "bisect number seven, the day i was making this call to bernie, i had found my proof and what i had found broke my heart." hillary clinton was asked about the allegedly rigged primary on late night with seth myers. watch. >> i didn't know what she was referring to because as it's now come out, that just wasn't the case. >> as it's now come out, but we checked and the only thing that has now come out is donna brazile saying she didn't
mean to say the campaign was rigged. martha. >> martha: thank you very much. here with more on all of this, lisa boothe. isaac wright is a former executive director and taz lindsay garrow is a former national staffer. welcome to all of you. donna brazile said she also gave questions to bernie sanders, is that true? >> that's breaking news i'm sure to bernie sanders and martin o'malley. she says you don't know what it is i gave them, that was very vague. it's really unfortunate to see how the dnc democrats have crucified donna brazile for speaking the truth and she is clearly not trying to go and make amends and pretty much walk back some of her comments. she also set on tucker last night that she didn't mean to say to hell with them, she said she should have went high instead of going low and it's really unfortunate because this
is fairly her motivation because of the backlash from democrats and now hillary clinton pretending as if she's completely delusional and doesn't remember the actual agreement and it's really sad and unfortunate. >> martha: isaac, how can hillary clinton claimed that she doesn't remember the agreement you signed? >> i don't think she claimed she didn't remember the agreement, the clip you just played said she didn't recognize anything was rigged and i think that's the same thing donna brazile has said. i think that's the same thing national >> martha: donna brazile said it was -- tac and then pushing them aside was unethical and she did use the word "rigged." >> she said she didn't recall. they said they didn't recognize the part that donna was talking about. >> donna has said last night, on sunday repeatedly that she didn't believe the system was rigged, that senator clinton, secretary clinton had a
agreement to raise money for the national party, that's a pretty common practice. bernie sanders had one as well. he didn't raise one into the dnc, clinton did, so she had and put on how that money was spent. i'm sure if sanders had raised money to the dnc, he could have done that as well. donald trump had a signed agreement with the republican party. >> martha: go ahead tezlyn. >> i'm sorry, that was in agreement she had outside of raising the money that said if i give you the money, i will control the strategy, i will control how the staffing is done, i will control how everything takes place before she was even the nominee. what donna brazile said was that she found the cancer. i know how cancer can be deadly. they have yet to find a cure and the more we can back this up, change it can be anything different than what it is which is a cancer that is not only
corrupting those of the top, but corrupting those of the bottom. if we continue to act like everything is all unwell and say as long as we won in virginia, all is well, we continue to hurt people. this is wrong to walk this back is wrong. i understand donna brazile's position as the first african-american female to run a primary, i respect her. spill it lisa go ahead. >> whatever your definition, the reality is debbie wasserman schultz resigned on the eve of this convention over the even tl that surfaced. debbie wasserman schultz was trying to help the clinton campaign over bernie sanders. whatever your definition of rigged is, the fact is the former dnc chairwoman stepped aside over this very issue and with regards to the questions that were leaked, donna brazile also had to step aside and
resigned from cnn for leaking those emails to hillary clinton, so those of two things are fact. for the democratic party right now, the 2016 election was a really embarrassing chapter for them so this is clearly reopening that and it's also reopening the very deep rift in the democratic party as you just saw with the two democrats on the panel going at it over this very issue. >> martha: we want to play a moment from the democratic convention. i was standing on the floor the time, so many bernie supporters in that room were so upset and clearly the look on their face, let's play this, suggested they felt like the rug had been pulled out from under them in an unfair way. watch this. >> bernie, -- >> martha: the question for you, what needs to be done if there is so much bad blood right now over this? how do you convince the bernie
supporters that there is going to be a more fair proper process in the future? >> the process worked, we had an election, the people chose a candidate and that was our nominee, she won the election by 3 million votes, but unfortunately lost the white house to the electoral college. i think there's a unity reform committee right now it's working on some ideas like superdelegates and changing up the system to modernize and an updated and we are going to see the results of that in january and i hope everybody will come together. when democrats work together and we get our message out, we won. that's what happened tuesday night. >> i hope the dnc can go to a 12-step program because clearly we're dealing with the disease of alcoholism or drugs or something. let's start by apologizing to those you have hurt in the bottom line is the more we keep ignoring this and acting like this didn't happen, that people were not hurt, the worse it's going to be. i'm here to say nobody's going
to get over this and move on. i suggest people move forward, clean it out, reform it. >> martha: thank you very much, great to have all of you with us here tonight. still had tonight, the dramatic new steps that airports are taking to fix the problems that could have led, at least contributed to this. tony shaver and colonel wallace are here to talk about that. president trump wraps up the very high-stakes time he spent in china. what deal was struck with president she? karl rove weighs in with his take next. >> up my feeling toward you is an incredibly warm one as we said, we have great chemistry and i think you're going to do tremendous things for both china and the united states.
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>> martha: tonight, president trump is about to leave china as he heads to vietnam, that's the fourth leg of this very high-stakes asia trip that he has been on. the threat of course of north korea looming large over the discussions you see there on your screen, but the president also at one point opted for some nuance language, should we say in terms of trade that we've seen in the past. >> both the united states and china will have a more prosperous future if we can achieve a level, economic playing field. right now, unfortunately, it is a very one-sided, and unfair one, but, but, i don't blame china. [laughter] [applause] after all, who can blame a country for being able to take advantage of another country for
the benefit of its citizens? i give china great credit. [laughter] >> martha: some critics watched that and they jumped all over the president saying he had completely changed his tune. watch this. >> clearly he is trying to make himself very popular. >> almost head snapping and how president dominic dumb academic >> martha: karl rove, former senior advisor and a fox news contributor. good to see you. he got skewered by some for softening his tone on china, did he? >> not really, but i do think it was the wrong tone. i think it would have been better being tough on them. the president saying it's our fault, there's a little bit of obama in there. is not your fault, it's our fault. we've been weak, my predecessors have been weak.
it would have been better if he said what he said during the campaign which is "you, china, are not living up to the international standards that you have agreed to. you're engaging in unfair trading practices." >> martha: he did say that. he said it's been one-sided and unfair. >> he also said it's not your fault. it is their fault because they have been engaged. >> martha: i didn't interpret it that way the way he meant it is on for america first, it's your country, so your four china first, but we need to think of a way that works for both of us. >> i disagree respectfully, because i think president trump would say i'm seeking unfair advantage with other countries. he's simply saying i want to be treated fairly. if we treat you fairly, you have to treat us fairly and you're not treating us fairly. here's the big thing, let's not get stuck up in the language. these things are events, but they're part of a bigger and
broader process. they announced today some trade deals and even the administration admits these deals are no substitute for change and fundamental policy. this was an attempt to further the dialogue about policy changes if the chinese to stop stealing our intellectual property, get them to lower the sale of goods and services inside the country and so forth. this was an event, a visit, that would allow the administration to take another opportunity to advance, but we won't see the outcomes for days, if not weeks. >> martha: i think you're absolutely right about that. this trip is laying groundwork, right question you try to lay the groundwork for future discussions. as you said, they got $250 billion in trade and technology, aviation, energy, but obviously, the big issue here is north korea. does he come home from that trip, having made any progress in his private discussions with president she?
>> we won't know for some period of time. i think he did his cause a great deal of good by that speech that he gave in the soul because it was strong, forceful, and clear. it's a very interesting situation here. the administration got some really good movement by getting the chinese circle bank to withdraw bank accounts or people doing business and north korea, but that happened before the party congress in which xi basically consolidated his powe power. as a result, the new chapter in relationship with china, does he think he needs to do two things, one is does he think he needs to follow through on his commitment they made in the international agreements that have been made through the united nations sanctions on tightening the screws and north korea and also, are there other steps that he is willing to take to remove the
idea of a north korea having nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles? the united states has given an important commitment to the chinese which is what we are not in favor of eight united korean peninsula under a democratic regime like we have in the sout. we accept that china wants to have a communist buffer state on its border, but the question is how much more are we going to get from the chinese and again, this was an event, is a process, we have to watch what comes out of the process. >> martha: we will. karl rove, thank you so much peer thanks for being here. >> thank you, martha. >> martha: coming up next. >> how did this happen question right out of the air force not report this criminal history to the database? >> martha: that question is haunting the families of the 26 victims of sunday's church massacre in texas. tony schaefer and michael walt
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texas church massacre. one of the victims was the unborn child. this, as the pastor of the church now says his small place of worship is "just too painful a place now." he hopes to demolish it and build a memorial garden there and rebuild elsewhere. these heartbreaking developments as just a short time ago, the air force addressed its failure to report information that could have prevented this gunman from ever walking into the gun store and purchasing his weapon. >> how did this happen? how did the air force not report this shooter's criminal history the database? >> that's what the review will find out. our responsibility is to look at what happened here and why.
>> martha: there is that. here now, tony shaver, and lieutenant colonel michael waltz's i'm a former green beret commander and fox news contributor. welcome. this is a tough side of this story. this is a man who pointed a loaded weapon and his wife, throttled her and the baby, a little boy, and he admitted the force with which he came at that child could have killed him. this is a man who the military justice system gave one year in confinement, then they released him and in error, didn't let the ncis know that he was out there and that he definitely should not be someone who should be permitted to have a gun. tony? >> this is not a single point failure. yes the air force is in the hot seat, but this man showed tendencies long before the conviction. we need to see a composite picture of these folks and
martha, i argue, we don't need new gun laws, we simply have to have better information sharing that commiserate's with the technology. i work with something called a high intensity drug trafficking area. they're using amazing software called tetra which collects data in real-time from databases. i would argue that it's terrible, but -- >> martha: the point is that there was a checkpoint that should have happened. put up the numbers we have at the pentagon. this is a pentagon inspector general report that says the navy 94% of the time, the army 70% of the time. this begs the question, are they covering for their own? >> i think it's a lack of oversight. i'm sorry, go ahead. >> i was going to say, to add to
your point, tony, these databases are only as good as what you put into them. there's so many of them, right? i'm glad to see secretary mattis ordering a broader dod investigation because we are seeing systemic problems right here. we saw the same thing similarly where the coast guard in the case of bowe bergdahl rejected him for psychological problems, but that wasn't communicative with the army who then accepted him. tony, i'm sure you know as well, when you're discharged from the military and your entire career of medical issues from combat overseas, that database doesn't talk to the veterans affairs database. i think it's a broader systemic problem. i doubt this is just a one off on this particular airman. secretary mattis, the secretary of the air force and the entire system need to get to the bottom of it because there is an entire separate military judicial system we have
criminals, prisons, and if as not being communicated to the fbi and these guys are kicked out of the military and then are free to buy assault rifles, that's a huge problem. >> martha: will have great respect for our military and that goes without saying, i hop hope. i'm saying because i know i'm being a bit critical here, but i don't think it's any comfort. >> these families deserve answers. >> martha: they absolutely do. >> michael, i agree with you on this. >> martha: there was a piece this morning in "usa today" where the air forces former top prosecutor say too often domestic abuse cases get to light sentences and they should not be handled in the military. they should be handled to the federal agencies and the court systems. >> i disagree. the military has to be held accountable. those men under those commanders have to be held accountable based on the fact that as you point out, martha, they do
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>> martha: finally tonight, politics put aside, a moaning stomach moving moment on the hill today, awarding the medal of honor for bravery and response to the june shooting. congressman steve soliz was severely injured that day. he delivered a personal message of gratitude. >> you look at the shooting in las vegas were so many lives were lost and so many are still fighting for their lives. that they on june 14th could have turned out the exact same way. we all know. what the outcome would have been
if not for the heroism and the bravery of the men and women on this stage. >> martha: an amazing moment today. that's the "the story," we'll see you back here tomorrow night at 7:00. tucker is up next. ♪ >> tucker: good meeting evenin. donna brazile exposed a secret. we heard from her last night on this show, but tonight, a campaign finance expert will tell us that that arrangement between the dnc and the hillary campaign may have violated federal law. details ahead. but first, this, in 1994, executives from the seven largest tobacco companies in america were summoned to congress to ask lane themselves. in their testimony, executives said that smoking cigarettes or is not addictive. they were lying. they've known all along about nicotine add