In this podcast interview, Brian Simmons speaks with Gavin Finley, M.D. of endtimepilgrim. org. The topic of dicussion is the apostasy of the last days. How close are we to the fulfillment of the apostasy? What can the church expect to go through as we near the consummation of the age? Dr. Finley details a broad panorama of end-time events, and sounds a note of encouragement to the church.