tv Face the Nation CBS November 28, 2016 1:35am-2:05am PST
>> dickerson: welcome back to face the nation i'm john dickerson. and we continue our conversations with people we are grateful for including 2016 teacher of the year, jahana hayes. you were talking about students before. and you said there is no benefit to anyone if a student achieves high grades. if they have no desire or knowledge of how to help others. what does that mean? >> it purpose of education is more than just graduating students who get good grades. i think they need to be compelled to help out in their communities and improve society and that is how i focus my teaching. i want my students to feel connected to the communities to improve the places they live to use what they have learned in school to help out. and i think that is what all teachers should do. that students should know that
i really bring my students out and try to get them involved in their community. >> and how do you do that? >> wow. we do all kinds community service projects we are actively involved in habitat for humanity, the relay for life and autism and homeless awareness, cancer aware ands and food-drives. i want my students to know they have the ability to improve the things in our country and world that they as no matter how young they are they can make an impact. >> and what does the student need to bring to you? what is the key quality that a student needs to learn? >> just -- actually i have so many students who come to me and they don't see anything in themselves. they don't realize that they have the capacity to achieve anything. and i try to help them discover that. >> why do they feel that way?
efficacy they have heard the reasons why they cannot do things and i try to remind them that you can do anything. young people in general see the world from where they are the position they are in today. they cannot see the future. and i think that teachers have the ability to lead student. we see so much far beyond today or tomorrow we look into the future and see the possibility that students bring. >> why should someone become a teacher? >> it's the best j i think i am uniquely positioned to impact the world the future you know. i have a front row seat to all the promise that we have. i believe in what teachers do. you know, i know that the world will be better and things will be better because i see students in front of me everyday who have the ability to make the changes. so i consider myself lucky. >> all right. jahana hayes thank you for being with us.
brandon stanton a photographer and blogger behind humans of new york. it started as a personal photography project six years ago. since then, the presentation of simple but powerful personal reflections has grown into a social media phenomenon and two best selling books. in our political season of division his work was a reminder of our shared humanity. brandon, thank you for being here. and you have interviewed thousands of people. photograph what did you set out to do? >> well, the process of discovering humans of new york was incremental. i lost my job and was working in chicago and i knew i wanted to be a photographer. i loved taking photos. and i started naturally falling into to taking pictures of people and i would start stopping people and taking their photo. and i had been photographing for a month or two, i knew i did not have a good chance of being the
being one of the best people in the world stopping random strangers and taking random photographs and it grew from that into a storytelling project where i interviewed the random people that i stopped on the streets. >> why did you change to interviewing them? >> i think it was more interesting. because i had done it thousands of times, stopped random people to take their photo and i realized what was so interesting is that people were curious about strangerou and i developed this skill where i could walk up to any random stranger and enter into a conversation to take their photograph and i knew what made my work interesting was the aspect of interacting with a stranger why not take that a step further and learn about this person. >> dickerson: and what have you learned overall the interviews you have done? >> i like to instead of trying to draw similarities between everybody, i think my goal is to
everybody. and you know one thing that i find is that we share so many philosophies. we share so many opinions. but the one thing that we have that is truly unique and makes us truly ourselves is our stories. and so when i interview somebody my questions tepid to follow the lines of trying to find out a story about this person that i have not heard from the other 10,000 people i have talked to. >> dickerson: and those stories as i've looked in instagram they are so powerful because they are one recently you were in the county and there was a husband and wife, his wife has dementia tell us that story. >> this was outside the box of what i do. because i was stopping random people on the street and i had a fan send me an e-mail and said my father-in-law has been taking care of my mother-in-law who has severe dementia. and would you go visit them? and so i did. and i got there and there was
wife who he said he has he does not have her mentally but he has her. and i sat down with them for an hour-and-a-half learned the story of how they met and fell in love and then the story about her alzheimer's progressed and spent time talking to the man about the difficulties and if you would ask him the joys he is a joyful man of watching his wife deteriorate and stepping in to a where the relationship to husband and wife subsided. but the relationship of caretaker came up. and you know, it was a very powerful conversation. >> dickerson: you went to ma common county and photographed a lot of people and did not mention politics. why? >> sometimes i did. i did not look for it and that is the key point of the work is that i think what makes humans
i've traveled to iran and traveled to pakistan. these are countries that have strong narratives told about them in the media. whether they are related to the nuclear deal or whether they are related to terrorism. so what you have, you have people being asked about thoughts and opinions on things such as that. and what i do and the same thing i did, is i stopped people randomly. and i asked what their greatest struggles are. and you find tht important swing county being talked about a lot and every time it's being talked about it's being talked about in relation to the election. what is your opinion of trump? why did you vote for hillary? and we are framing the people based on political affiliations but if you actually stop the people and say what is your greatest struggle right now? it's about our wife's dementia and son's alcoholism and they do not identify themselves in the
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some points in their lives. mcshin and honesty liller are on the frontlines of this. what does it look like in terms of the uptick with opioid abuse that you see? >> right. well, at mcshin 80% of our participants in our program are recovering from opioid addiction. it's all around the country. it is a huge spike in lots of opiates, with the heroin, the heroin is cheaper after you are doing with the prescriptiontion pain meds so it's more and more people getting addicted at a younger age than on average and that is around the nation. >> tell me about your personal story. >> i am long-term recovery. i have been drug and alcohol free for nine-and-a-half years. the i started using when i was 12 years old. i stopped at 26.
heroin. and i came to the mcshin foundation when i was 26 years old with nothing, same day service. john and carroll his wife took me in. i had nothing i had a couple bags of clothes i did not have custody of my daughter and i was living out of my jeep. now my life is amazing because of my recovery and john and carroll taking a chance on me, i own a home i am a a wife and the c.e.o. of mcshin and i'm surrounded by people that i love and i get to see people's lives change because of the recovery. been there done that this is what life was and what life is today and be able to help the people and save their lives and heal their families. >> dickerson: what is the most important thing that people needs that needs help? >> if you have an addiction
using drugs and find a new way to live and lose that desire. all you have to do is ask and hopefully you will find the right door to go through. >> a lot of people have trouble asking for help? >> god it's the hardest thing in the individual for an individual to come to grips with an addiction and say i need help and a lot of times they reach out for help to get their hands slapped. we have to start helping peop the day they ask for it we have to give it to them instead of -- >> dickerson: what do you mean they will ask for help? >> and they ask for help and the next thing you know. we have to stop treating people and help them the day they ask for it to include emergency rooms in america. people were going to the emergency rooms a place to get
be told to get out of here. we have to stop that. we know better and we have to do better. >> dickerson: the most important thing that you mentioned when you are talking to somebody is you can say i was there. what about as a culture what do the rest of us do? >> just be a voice not just those addicted to drugs and alcohol it's the family members and the people in the community that are affected. anyone can be able to help someone you know that has a i think it's important to continue to talk about it and if you have a voice in your local community with a policy maker give them our number we are good at what we do on the advocacy si piece it's not just help that individual. it's healing a community and that is the nation at large. so anyone can be a voice for anything it's important to be educated on what you are talking about and been there done that
it's not just us in recovery but the family members that have been affected by the disease that are speaking up and going to the general assembly and doing what they have to do to fight for those that do not know about recovery and those that are changing their lives. >> dickerson: all right. we appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> thank you very much this was amazing. thank you. >> dickerson: thank you for what you do. and we will be right back in a
>> dickerson: and now back to politics and our political panel. joining us today is molly ball of the atlantic, ed o'keefe of the "washington post", his colleague ruth marcus is a columnist and editor of the post and ramesh ponnuru is senior editor at the national review. with you. donald trump made staff picks. he is thinking about others. do you have a unified theory of what he is doing? is there a clear message to the picks he has made? >> i do not have a unified theory i'm not sure he has a unified theory but the transition is going better than one might have expected a couple weeks ago when there was breathless coverage of what a disaster it was turning out to
is this public fight going on about who is going to be the secretary of state in a trump administration where you have top advisers like kellyanne conway like blasting that mitt romney might be that person. >> ruth, on some of the names that have been made. i was interested on the one hand you had donald trump say kelly ayotte former senator from new hampshire was not anything because she said that donald trump was not a role model for her children. and niki haley is now the ambassador to the u.n. what do you make for the different decisions? >> well, sometimes he can be more image unanimous mouse than others. i have to say if this transition is going well, i would like to see one going poorly. i will channel tolstoy all
is crazy. first of all we are having a transition by twitter. he is consume 8 indicating -- communicating with us. normal president-elects have press conferences and this one has a twitter account. and he is picking people that in the most haphazard way. usually you submit your national security team and then you domestic policy team it's kind of random people. you pick your un ambassador before you pick your secretary of ste and finally, this remarkable i know we are not getting it to it yet this public dissent that we cannot stop talking about. >> do you sign up for that? jeff sessions that was an obvious pick. mike flynn for the national security adviser. 2450es are loyalists in the trump camp? >> i have a rather that donald trump is running the transition the way he run his campaign which is the way he runs his business.
he likes to have under lings scrabbling for favor. he is in charge and he bestows his favor arbitraryly. and everyone is kept on their toes nobody knows where they stand with him. his is his style. and there is no ideological consistency. somebody like a jeff sessions and steve bannon not a traditional republican with reince priebus who is and paired with someone like niki haley a traditional conservative. and i do not think we should expect consistency. because trump has little ideological consistency. he is much more interested in personality and the way he is making the choices the vetting process is come to my tower and i shall evaluate you and he is making choices on that basis. >> and what molly describes is
management, battles and fights so there is a tradition of this. what do you make of it and we can talk to the secretary of state point which is this public debate going on between whether he is going to pick rudy giuliani or mitt romney or bob corker from tennessee? >> look, everyone is exasperated get over it. this is the way it's going to be. this is the way he is. and i think this is the new normal in essence for the idea that it has to be done a certain way is foolhardy because he has not done anything the normal way and he won. so don't be surprised by any of this is what i have been telling relatives and colleagues and everyone else. as for secretary of state, look, my only question is: how can a republican controlled senate confirm someone like rudy giuliani given his business
prosecuting hillary clinton for doing the similar things? he has been the consultant to world leaders some of questionable degree and giving speeches all over the world. it can argue that it gives him vast experiencing but you know, i do not see how certain republican lawmakers can have spent the last few years saying what they said about her and confirm him when he was doing the same. >> the thing we need to talk about is the spectacle of his own campaign manager kellyanne conway differing with him on twitter and public interviews about the wisdom of romney as secretary of state. anybody has any precedent i would like to hear it. >> dickerson: i will real you kellyanne conway tweeted receiving deluge of social media and private communications, some loyalists warn against romney as
so ramesh ponnuru some people see that as the former campaign manager arguing with her boss through twitter not in the boardroom? >> she has given the same advice privately and it's true this has not been done before but i assume that she is doing it knowing that trump doesn't mind her doing it. that he may like this kind of drama. and so she figures why not? i think some of the points she is making are reasonable. it i an incoming president to want cabinet members who are loyal to him who will not make a big resignation in principle that hurts the administration. and given their history together one has to worry about that if you are a donald trump about mitt romney. >> it's interesting that kellyanne conway is positioning herself as speaking for the grassroots and donald trump supporters. and i think there maybe a personal side to it for her as well but it is true that she is
millions of people out there in america who are not part of any other political party or movement but who are loyal to trump. and if she is indeed sounding a signal that he does not want to turn against those people there would not be another voice in his ear or administration that would be speaking for those people. and presumably that is important to him. >> and ed to the question of donald trump's con flibs of interest. conflicts of interest. he has businesses all over the world. about the conflicts between the clinton foundation and the secretary of state. where are we on the question of donald trump's private interests and president? >> he so far embraces the fact that he is a global businessman and made no publicly apparent moves to really divest himself of it all. it is a complicated thing. but we need to remember is that federal law would allow him to continue doing this. and the question is: will the
a part-time c.e.o. to some degree and if not how will the public react? if there's evidence that he or his family is ingrashiating himself of the presidency while things are not getting fixed then we will see a reaction. this is unchartered waters and we have to see. >> dickerson: he told the new "w york times" that presidents cannot have con flibs of interest. >> they can and he does. the federal law does not cover and there is the way presidents behaved in the past. this is i adangerous road. it's obvious that somebody with his holdings is going to have a problem. he should have planned for this remarkably unprepared for this and obtuse since being elected. to separate his business life from his presidential life. instead of separating his piling conflict on conflict inviting his children into the government
dickerson: should other republicans care about this? is this going to get in the way of business that the business thought they want to get done? >> there is no statutory problem. i do not think he has a political problem in the sense of the supporters in the polls turning against him. but i do think he is creating trouble for himself and administration and for republicans down the line because there is the potential for any number of scandals. the potential that otherwise reasonable decisions get wonder is there a private interest of the trump company that is biasing our decisions? i think they would be better off taking steps to prevent those conflicts. >> dickerson: any immediate steps? >> he could get rid of his business but he does not want to do that. this campaign for donald trump was about shattering norms, refusing to accept that the tradition of candidates releasing tax returns he feels he got away with it and vindicated and therefore feels
traditional things. we shall see if he gets away with it when it becomes massive state corruption. >> dickerson: we will be right back in a moment. for healthier looking skin in just one day. aveeno?. naturally beautiful results? liberty mutual stood with me when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate.