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which is still not as bad as what happened when he toured that pants factory i believe we made someone produce that graphic during a pandemic how dare we. president trump was interviewed yesterday by abc news anchor david muir and he was pretty nice until tucker carlson happened to walk by. "you told me you were working late, and i believed you god, i'm such a fool." i made this face, right? in that interview, president trump said that as states relax stay-at-home orders during the coronavirus pandemic, there may be more death, because, quote, "you won't be locked into an apartment or a house or whatever it is. i know he's out of touch, but is it possible he doesn't even know what people live in? "i think they make nests out of mud or something i could ask them, but i really don't want to interact." former new jersey governor chris christie said on monday the country needs to reopen despite projections that show the coronavirus pandemic is not over, which is surprising coming
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from a guy who usually wants to keep the beaches closed for himself. president trump met with the governor of iowa today said trump, "i know a lot about iowa in fact, i-owe-a lot of contractors a lot of money." [ light laughter ] that was brian donaldson writing a really dumb joke that i'll admit, i liked look, what am i going to say dumb is not a criticism of it. i love it for its dumbness the nasa administrator announced on twitter yesterday that the space agency will be partnering with actor tom cruise to film a movie in space the weird thing is, it's a sequel to "jerry maguire." "show me the moon. authority -- they might be getting dumber as we go. authorities in louisiana are looking for an aggressive chicken that has chased customers at a local bank and attempted to climb cars in the drive-through. authorities advised, anyone that sees the chicken, to take a video, because they're bored as hell and they would like to see
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that oh, this is -- mike scollins wrote the dumbest joke and i'm going to do the dumbest joke now it's national pet week, though if pet week -- [ laughter ] sorry. it's national pet week, though if pet weak, maybe pet just hungry so for no reason -- so for no reason i now talk like the hulk for the stupid mike scollins joke and finally -- [ laughter ] and finally, starbucks announced yesterday that it plans to have 85% of the u.s. locations -- i'm sorry, i screwed -- i'm still on a pet week high. okay here we go and finally, starbucks announced yesterday that it plans to have 85% of its u.s. locations open by the end of the week before everyone remembers you can just make coffee at home for nine cents look, it came off the rails, but it still counts as a monologue we got a great show for you tonight. he's an iconic rapper and actor who has got a new film, "the
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high note. ice cube will be here. and we'll be talking to author sarah kendzior about her new book "hiding in plain sight: the invention of donald trump and the erosion of america." it's a "new york times" bestseller, and i'm so excited to talk to her again we'll be right back with "a closer look. ♪ what did verizon build their network for? people. and when people are depending on you to make an average of over 600 million calls
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>> seth: hello, everyone, and welcome back to the attic. last week you may recall we addressed speculation about the sudden disappearance of my copy of "the thorn birds," the 1977 australian romance novel that inspired the hit 1983 mini series starring a frequently shirtless richard chamberlain. in 1983, it turns out that was the exact right amount of chest hair for a leading man chamberlain never would have survived in these hairless times we're living in, where our sex symbols are all chris' with chests smooth enough to eat off. anyway, the point is, i left the window open overnight to get rid of the wasps but then "the thorn birds" flew out, we think, because it's mating season but as you can see, the thorny is back and maybe with child impossible to tell meanwhile, the president is pregnant with rage -- that's a segue, a bad one, but technically still a segue -- and decided to give up in the fight against coronavirus in order to reopen the economy for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ >> seth: you would think that
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putting aside his venality, his narcissism, and his deadly incompetence, donald trump could at the very least muster a little empathy for the victims of this pandemic, their loved ones, and the millions who have put themselves in harm's way, lost jobs, or made tremendous personal sacrifices during this crisis but of course he can't do that, because he's incapable of empathy. he only has two emotions - boredom and rage he's either staring off into the distance while someone talks about complex policy details or hissing at reporters like a snake whose nest was just disturbed. in fact, just listen to the cold, detached way in which trump talked about allowing americans to die in order to reopen the economy and the 30 million people who have lost jobs because of his handling of this crisis during an interview on abc yesterday >> reporter: do you believe that's the reality we're facing? that lives will be lost to reopen the country >> it's possible there will be some, because you won't be locked into an apartment or a house or whatever it is. >> reporter: there are 30 million americans who are unemployed you don't need me to tell you that we're expecting the new unemployment rate this week.
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there have been forecasts, 15, 16, 17%. one of your advisers projected an unemployment rate of 19%. that's nearly one in five americans without a job. how bad is this going to get >> well, that is what it is. >> seth: wow what soaring words it reminds me of martin luther king's "i slept pretty good last night" speech or fdr's famous response when they told him about pearl harbor "well, [ bleep ] happens." usually when someone is that soulless and dead-eyed, you're not asking them questions about the economy, you're holding up a rorschach test "and what is this, donald? "it is what it is. "very, very interesting. okay, guards, you can put him back in his restraints now." "oh, i don't think the guards can hear you." "donald, what have you done? yesterday trump also made his first major trip in months to tour a honeywell factory in arizona, a trip that gave us what may end up as one of the enduring images of this crisis trump toured a mask factory as his white house signaled they were basically just giving up on
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suppressing the coronavirus pandemic to focus on reopening the economy instead. and has he was doing that, someone chose to blast "live and let die" on the speakers >> the material traps the particulates ♪ live and let die ♪ >> seth: wow welcome to the resistance, honeywell factory floor deejay doesn't get much more on the nose than that what were the other songs on that play list ♪ it's the end of the world as we know i it's the end of the worl as we know it ♪ ♪ >> seth: you can hear all those classic hits and more on "now that's what i call symbolism." "live and let die" playing while trump tours a mask factory during a pandemic is the surest sign yet that we're living in a video game and if we are in a video game, does anyone have the cheat code to get rid of wasps? because i tried up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, b, a, start, and that just made them angrier anyway, sure enough, during that
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same trip trump brushed off the growing death toll and said he was eager to force americans back to work prematurely, telling them to think of themselves as participants in an armed conflict >> and you see what's going on they have to open. and the people of our country should think of themselves as warriors our country has to open. i'm viewing our great citizens of this country to a certain extent and to a large extent as warriors they're warriors we can't keep our country closed we have to open our country. the people of our country are warriors and i'm looking at it. i'm not saying anything is perfect. and yes, will some people be affected yes. will some people be affected badly? yes. but we have to get our country open and we have to get it open soon. and i said it before and i'll say it again the people of our country are warriors >> seth: that's right, trump wants you -- you to be a warrior while he sits safely in isolation in the white house "i would join in, but i feel another bone spur coming on,
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which is devastating to me, because the last one happened right before the vietnam war i mean, what are the chances that it happens again now? i mean --" this is truly sadistic the president is telling you to go out and face off against a deadly virus all for the sake of the stock market the only way that could be more out of touch is if he said it while dousing himself in purell and holding a 36-pack of toilet paper. every day it seems we pass a grim new milestone in the coronavirus pandemic with more than 70,000 americans now dead and at least 30 million out of work, which, according to trump means it's a perfect time to stand down and wrap things up. >> we can't keep our country closed for the next five years you know, you could say there might be a recurrence, and there might be and, you know, most doctors or some doctors say that it will happen and it will be a flame and we're going to put the flame out we've learned a lot, you know. we've learned a lot about the coronavirus. >> seth: first of all, who is "we" you haven't learned anything whenever the doctors are up there talking, you do that thing where you zone out and sway back and forth like a drunk guy who's trying to pretend he's sober
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and then you get back up to the podium having only heard, like, three words and try to sound like you know what's going on. "so what i'm hearing is -- what i grasped when the scientists were talking, is that powerful lights will cure the coronavirus and give you superpowers you know, i saw that in a documentary once only down -- turns you green that's the downside side effect. so still - still pretty promising news. you're incapable of learning you showed up to the cdc in atlanta surrounded by some of the best doctors in the world and all you did was hold up a printout of a virus like a kid who forgot to do his science project until the last minute. "as you can see here, the virus is called wikipedia. side effects include further reading and external links." although actually i will give trump credit in the span of two months, he did at least learn one thing the name of the virus. >> so you can't put them down in the, uh, in the category of the overall population in terms of this, uh, corona flu
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>> seth: yes, corona flu remember when a deadly virus was racing across the globe and the president was getting intelligence reports about it, and he got the name wrong, like the worst member of your bar trivia team? "this english rock band is led by front man mick jagger." "oh, i know, it's the rolling scones in america they're called the rolling muffins. that's an extra piece of trivia." second, no one, and i mean no one, wants to keep the country closed for five years. it hasn't even been closed for five months and we're already losing our minds i spend six hours a day washing my hands, i wipe down every package like it's coated in anthrax. i've watched so much netflix that my home page says "we have nothing left for you try hulu?" and i've inhaled so much lysol, my urine smells like lemon zest. no one wants to live like this in fact, we didn't have to lots of other major developed countries have successfully suppressed their outbreaks by acting early, testing aggressively, and implementing a system of isolating cases and tracing their contacts some never even had to fully lock down, and others have already reopened, like in south
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korea, where they had their first case on the exact same day we had ours. and while here in the u.s., almost every day at least 25,000 new coronavirus cases are identified and in south korea, the rate of new confirmed cases of coronavirus has slowed down dramatically in recent weeks to less than ten a day. of course if you pointed that out to trump, he probably wouldn't accept it "it's not a fair comparison. south korea is 13 hours ahead so, they had a jump on it. in fact, while we're all stuck in our homes watching reruns of "blue bloods" at 2:00 in the afternoon, korean baseball is already back playing games, just without fans in fact espn is now airing them here in the u.s., which has introduced us to some truly incredible team names like the nc dinos and the sk wyverns, which are mythical winged two-legged dragons with barbed tails. last year they even used augmented reality to have a dragon fly into the stadium and breathe fire our baseball teams need more mascots like that. the only mythical creature we have is, i don't know, like an aardvark like a hairy aardvark who loves
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baseball hmm. we've been highlighting success stories like that from south korea to iceland to new zealand to taiwan, because they're out there.etent governmt managed to suppress the reak claimed that, as he put it, the cupboards were bare when he took office three years ago and that's why he's failed to fight the virus. but in a new abc interview trump was asked why he didn't do anything to fix the situation. >> reporter: you're three years into your first term >> yeah. >> reporter: you're now applying for the job again. what did you do when you became president to restock those cupboards that you say were bare >> well, i'll bees uh, i have a lot of things going on. >> seth: no, you don't all you do is watch tv, and r a of your straitjacket, tweet. and when you're not golfing, you're tweeting about golfing. like on sunday when you retweeted a post from your golf course in scotland claiming they had been named best golf course in the uk and ireland by a european golf magazine "so nice to see this great honor, thank you, but haven't
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played golf in a long time." first of all, that's not true. damn it, nationals you were suppo feel-good team everyone could be happy with over the cheating astros now, i mean, who are we supposed root for when baseball comes back, the mets i mean, they're the only team that's doing better during quarantine pretty sure the last president they met with was william henry harrison and then he died ten days later. that was the year mr. met caught typhoid. and now, instead of taking any responsibility for the situation, trump and his toadies on state tv are whining that he hasn't gotten enough credit for only letting 70,000 americans die and 30 million lose their jobs, like human beer keg jesse watters on fox news this week >> can you imagine, greg, the media, how they'd sound if barack obama were president during the pandemic? it goes something like this. "barack obama, putting politics aside and sacrificing. the key to a successful reelection shut down the economy just in order to save lives. that's what it would sound like.
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now, i know the president's not going to get great coverage like that but the president just wants fair coverage, because he never got credit for winning the election they said russia cheated he never got credit for the economy. they said it was barack obama's. and he's not getting credit for anything, for ventilators, for flattening the curve >> seth: my god, you sound like the whiniest pledge in sigma chi. "the dean is shutting down our blackface party, completely ignoring the fact it was a fundraiser to help local cocaine dealers. the u.s. is the richest and most powerful country on earth, and yet we're also the epicenter of a deadly outbreak that has been suppressed in lots of other countries. and now the president wants to send you to war against the virus for the sake of the stock market but at least when he does send you to war, he'll do so with this soaring battle cry. >> that is what it is. >> seth: this has been "a closer look." since this crisis started, we've been asking people to help city harvest, so please continue to give more and more new yorkers are turning to them to keep food on their tables there's website on your screen
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than they're driving you >> yes, see, my kids are not little no more so, i got a 19-year-old at the house. i got a 26-year-old at the house. and i'm driving them crazy you know what i mean i'm just -- i got 'em doing all kinds of stuff around the house. you know, making them come outside. kids hate to go outside nowadays, youngsters [ light laughter ] so going outside, you know, we just -- you know, i'm just kind of in their face all day so it's kind of cool >> seth: that's good, that's good it's nice to be around family. you have a new film coming out you play a music manager in it was this - >> yeah. >> seth: was that a part you a lot of them over the years >> you know, i'm managing a diva but i'm more of a diva than she is so it's kind of cool to be that guy. i've seen those guys a lot the managers who act like they the stars. who dress more flashy than stars.
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who want all the amenities so it's kind of cool to be able to jump into that role >> seth: how fast -- being in the business as long as you have, how fast can you clock what kind of manager you're dealing with when you meet one >> probably, you know, one meeting. [ laughter ] one conversation, i know who i'm dealing with you know, you've got all kind of different guys you know i play the guy who, his only talent is to find talent so, you know, he's hanging on with everybody that's big. he's looking for the next come-up. and he ends up riding tracee ellis ross' character to the top. they're at the top so he wants no part of, you know, anything that has to do with messing up the catalog, messing up with the fluffy lifestyle that he's got. so i know those kind of managers then i know the father figure kind who, you know, want to take you under their wing, pretend
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like they love you like a son, and then, you know, end up screwing you in the end. so, you know, and then it's probably 12 more categories of managers it's like zodiac signs, you know [ laughter ] you can find different kind of managers depending on when they was born, you know, what time. [ laughter ] >> seth: hey, you're doing something really great and you were nice enough to send one. so, you made some mask wearing shirts >> yeah. >> seth: check yourself on the front before - before - >> wreck yourself. [ laughter ] you know, i wanted to do something cool for the first responders you know, we got real heroes out there putting their lives on the line you know, who are not getting a lot of recognition you know, kind of like the silent heroes all through the country. so i wanted to do something cool for them, you know i wanted -- you know, everybody has a foundation that, you know, you can donate to this, that, and the other. but you don't really get nothing
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back, you know you just donate. it's kind of like your secret in a way. and that's it. so i was like, "what if you got something? what if you got something cool like a cool t-shirt that pushes the cause as well? so you give money. you get a cool t-shirt you push the cause you know, we don't take a dime everything goes to the first responders so they get money. and you get a chance to, you know, push a cool t-shirt with your boy ice cube on it. so, it's a win-win for everybody. >> seth: and let me just say -- it's a win-win-win it's a high quality shirt. and i'm very impressed with how quickly you turned this around well done. >> no problem, man you can definitely wash it more than twice [ laughter ] and it will still, you know -- so i appreciate you pushing it, man. you know, it's for a good cause. a good saying. you know, we do all have to check ourselves before we wreck ourselves, without a doubt >> seth: you -- this april, which i cannot believe how fast time goes, was the
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25th anniversary of "friday. you posted some photos on social media. >> yeah. >> seth: i didn't realize, you were planning to go ahead and shoot a fourth "friday." is that true >> yeah, you know, we was cocked and loaded you know, ready to go with the fourth "friday." unfortunately john witherspoon passed away. and, you know, it threw us all back you know, we're still grieving over the loss of such a talented, you know, special man. you know, he wasn't just funny everybody saw his funny side but he was also a serious, you know, thoughtful guy so just to lose him, man, you know, we feel like we all lost, you know, our pops, our grand pops, our uncle. and we're hurting. so, you know, hopefully we'll figure it out. but for now it's really on the back burner. >> seth: i -- so in high school, i took a typing class, which i know you took typing i actually think i used what i learned in typing just because i
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write a lot, more than anything i learned in high school but you, that's where you wrote your first rap, was in typing class? >> typing class, ninth grade i was late getting all my electives. and i ended up, you know, stuck with typing. and i thought i would hate it. because i'm like, you know, i'm not trying to be -- at the time it was called secretary. i'm not trying to be a secretary. so little did i know, like you, that i would use this for the rest of my life. and it's -- you know, it helped me write my first script but going back, it was another guy in the classroom too and he was late getting his electives. so we both were stuck in typing, right? [ light laughter ] and, you know, our typing class, you had to keep going, you know? the teacher was like, "i want to hear that typewriter rat-a-tat-tating the whole time. [ laughter ] i don't -- don't stop. so when i finished my work, and
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he finished his, he looked and we was actually pretty good typers, to be honest we was up to about 40 words a minute so, he looked. and he said, "man, have you ever wrote a rap before?" and i'm like, "nah, you know, i rap, but i never wrote one." he said, "you write one, i'll write one, we'll see which one's the best." so after class, the bell rings we go out in the hallway and i rap him my rap, you know and my stuff is original you know, the first line i ever wrote was, "my name is ice cube, i want you to know, i'm not run-d.m.c. or kurtis blow. that was my first -- >> seth: an introduction yeah [ light laughter ] >> yeah. his was raps of everything i had heard on the radio like, he pieced together everybody's raps that he bought. so i was like, "dude, you are biding." like -- and, you know, biding in '84, you could get the death penalty. you know what i'm saying [ laughter ] it was like -- you know, biding, like, taking somebody's rhyme or
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style back then was like, uh, something you just didn't do so he was biding i don't know if he ever rapped again. i kept going i ended up getting better and better thank god i lived down the street from dr. dre's cousin, sir jinx, who helped me become a better rapper. he taught me how to rap on beat. and so -- 'cause i was just an a capella guy. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> so the rest is history, like i say. >> seth: and i didn't know this about you. you also went to trade school for a year in arizona while you were in nwa. >> yeah. in nwa, you know, like, we didn't know that rap -- that kind of rap was gonna be successful we thought, you know, hard core gangsta rap is gonna be in what was called the blue section. that's where all the redd foxx dirty records were you know, eddie murphy had a few dirty records that was over
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there. we thought we was going to be over there, rudy ray moore and all these other people [ light laughter ] so we never knew it was going to blow up. so i was like, "man, i got to have something to fall back on, because we west coast rappers. we don't know if this is going to blow, you know? we locals right now. so, i remember the day i was leaving to go to arizona, dre dropped by he was trying to convince me to stay so, he came with the first 12 inch that we ever did for nwa, had a song on there called "dope man" and "eight ball." >> seth: sure, sure. >> and he showed me. he goes, "man, you sure you want to go? you sure you want to go? and i was looking at the cover of that record and i was like, "uh, yeah, i do want to go [ light laughter ] 'cause who knows if this is going to do anything." so, you know, for a whole year i was in, you know, architectural drafting, you know, learning how to, you know, draw houses and structures and i can tell you what a -- you
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know, what a pillar needs to hold the building up and all that kind of stuff >> seth: but you would go back on weekends. you would actually go from school during the week and you would go do nwa shows back in l.a. >> yeah, yeah. you know, we had shows on the weekends southwest, i think they had a $2 airline ticket back then. [ laughter ] everything was $2. you know and i would fly back every week -- every weekend, you know. every friday after school, i hit the plane, come back to l.a. and sometimes we would have shows all up and down california, all up and down the west coast do the shows, get back on the plane, and fly back in sunday evening. so, that was my routine for a whole year, pretty much. back and forth, back and forth >> seth: and did anybody at school in arizona have any sense of who you were or what you were doing on the weekends? >> a couple of people.
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you know, i went to a couple of clubs out there. and the dude actually walked up with the record and said, "is this you?" i'm like, "yeah, that's me." so, me and him actually became good friends, you know actually one of those guys still rides with me to this day. dude named phoenix fields. so he still rolls with me to this day from them times back then but yeah, it was a trip, because going back and forth to l.a., i would get stopped. i would get stopped by undercover dea they was thinking i was taking cocaine back and forth they thought i was a gang banger taking cocaine back and forth from l.a. to phoenix but i wasn't [ laughter ] i was messing with a student so it was kind of cool to, you know, they would go through my stuff. and i would show them every time, "i ain't got nothing in here, but drawers. drawers and socks, baby. [ laughter ] >> seth: once again, check
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yourself before you wreck yourself cube, always a pleasure. thanks so much for making time for us >> hey, seth, say safe, man, you and your family, man always good to talk to you y'all go check out "the high note," may 29th. well, check it out it's going to be in your living room right on pay-per-view may 29th, "the high note." it's a great movie check us out >> seth: all right, thanks, man. ♪ ♪ right now, there's over a million walmart associates doing their best to keep our nation going, while keeping us safe. we've given masks to all our people and we're helping our customers practice social distancing in stores. we've implemented shorter hours, so we can sanitize our stores from top to bottom while also restocking our products. but if anything, these days have reminded us
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♪ >> seth: our next guest is a "new york times" bestselling author her new book, "hiding in plain sight," is available now please welcome back to the show sarah kendzior how are you, sarah >> as well as can be expected. how are you? >> seth: i'm good. i like that in your bookshelf behind you, you're using it to very -- very smartly promote your new book. >> oh, yes, of course. >> seth: we were talking, you obviously had a book tour planned. you were actually going to be on our show in the studio back in, i guess, in march. so how has it been having a
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book -- a new book out that obviously you worked on for years and not being able to go out and promote it >> i mean, i'm sad about it. i'm sad that i didn't get to, you know, see my readers face-to-face but i'm mostly thinking about safety, and i don't want to put anyone in that position. and there's certainly people who are having a much harder time in this economy and in this public health crisis than me. the book itself is about the danger of this administration, and the erosion of stable institutions, not just in the present, but over the last 40 years so paradoxically, this is a good time for the book to come out. >> seth: so i want to talk about the book, but real quick, you recently tweeted the last time you were on the show, and again, it was nice that you got to see the other guests >> mm-hmm. >> seth: you were backstage. you got to meet ice-t. and here is the photo that you tweeted. and is it true that your mother - [ laughter ] your mother has this framed? >> oh, yeah. i gave it to her as a mother's day gift. because i sent it to her, and she loved it and then, you know, i surprised her. she has it on her mantle, just like every baby boomer, a huge
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ice-t fan, "law and order. completely forgot that she confiscated my "body count" cassette in like 1991. so, you know >> seth: well, it's a shame because, you know, the first guest tonight was ice cube so i like that there's something thematic about your times on our show >> as long as it doesn't lead to vanilla ice the third time around, then i'm all good with this trend, so >> seth: the last time you were on, you were talking about your book, "the view from flyover country. and it was a lot about, sort of -- you had studied autocratic regimes, and how they, you know, have this way of sneaking up on people exactly what is happening to the, you know, systems they rely on you obviously wrote this book. if things don't change, this is the sort of thing we were going to end up with, right? >> yeah. i mean, i didn't predict that i would be talking to you during a plague from our self-quarantine.
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but in terms of malice, in terms of kleptocracy, in terms of the profound erosion of institutional stability and social trust, this is what i expected from the trump administration because we've had this kind of facetious, unearned reliance on checks and balances that were never really there they were not applied at the start of his administration. and he has spent the last four years annihilating them, purging agencies, packing courts, you know, basically stripping this country down and selling it for parts. and so, yeah, here we are. >> seth: you point out that the media sometimes will focus on trump's ineptitude, but you think the mistake there is it ignores the more sinister side of it. >> yes, absolutely i think that the media as well as many people are just comfortable thinking of him as a buffoon that stumbled into the presidency, like it was an accident but that's not true. and as i lay out in the book, he ran or nearly ran for president five times
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1988, 1996 he ran in 2000 he ran in 2012 he ran in 2016 and one of his enduring strategies has been to cover up his crime with scandal and to cover up his malice with incompetence a lot of people are shocked by his reaction to the pandemic, that we haven't had a national mourning, that the flag hasn't even been lowered to commemorate the victims and the people who tried to save them but that's completely in line with his character you know, when 9/11 happened his first reaction was to say it made his buildings look taller when the 2008 financial collapse happened he said that it was a good thing for him, that he would profit and back in 2014, he went on fox news and said that he wanted economic collapse, and he wanted riots and violence in the street because that's what makes america great again. >> seth: you don't hold back in your book as far as like naming names. >> no. >> seth: and i think the way a
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lot of times, some journalists not only fear, you know, the shutting down of access for projects that they do in the future but also, you know, for personal safety. do you -- when you are specific about people, do you ever -- do you ever fear for your safety when you write >> i mean, of course of course i fear for my safety and we've seen a lot of examples of this administration and people connected to it threatening people you know, we just had an impeachment hearing where the ambassador to ukraine basically said that trump and his goon squad ordered a hit on her that's a huge deal and there's a long history of that kind of action. you know, so yeah, i worry about my safety. but i'm more worried that the truth of this administration and its history isn't being told and so that's what, you know, i have chosen to do in this book and through my other work. and i don't care about access. you know, i live in missouri i'm not worried about not being invited to a cocktail party or whatever the hell people do in d.c and so that's never really been an issue for me. and then, you know, perversely,
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it gives me a certain kind of freedom. >> seth: you talk a lot, not just in the book but also on your podcast, about the elections in november. how much confidence do you think the american people can have in a fair election right now? and i do think, you know, sometimes we talk about it, it's a little dangerous, because obviously the trump administration, based on the outcome, will also speak to the idea that it was not fair. so how do you frame it so that it just doesn't become a thing that everyone can sort of use for their own best interests >> yeah. i mean, everyone is going to claim that it's rigged that was the little trick they pulled in 2016 by, you know, trump constantly saying it was rigged it forced the democrats into this position where they're like, "it can't be rigged. and then when it was in some respects rigged, they really had nothing to say what they should be doing is pushing for election transparency and integrity early. they should be pushing for vote by mail, because of the coronavirus, because of the dangers we are being put in by having physical voting
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i've been worried about the integrity of this election for a long time, before the virus came around i've been worried about domestic voter suppression, foreign interference, insecure machines, and trump simply refusing to leave. my new worry is that perhaps the election will be delayed or kind of indefinitely postponed. usually even autocrats love elections. you know, they like to have a fake election so that they can brag about the people's love and i didn't think that trump would turn down an opportunity to do that but given this unprecedented public health crisis, it's uncertain what direction he'll go >> seth: don't take this the wrong way. there is a core pessimism to a lot of what you write about. but do you feel as though there might be a chance to come with a changed perspective from e and where do you find optimism >> yeah, i mean, i don't think about it so much in terms of optimism or pessimism or hope or hopelessness i just try to do the right thing. you know, when you have so much chaos, when you have so much
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instability, you really have to look at your morals and your principles and how you treat people and the kind of life that you want to lead and so i just try to do the right thing. i do try to make suggestions that are helpful in that respect. but i'm not going to have blind faith in eroding institutions that we've already seen fail you know, what americans i think have recognized by now, the institutions are only as good as the people who are willing to uphold them. and sometimes they have to uphold those institutions in the face of profound and unprecedented threats. and so far, that has not really happened that doesn't mean it's too late. it doesn't mean that we're doomed it does mean we're in for a rough ride and that we really have to get our bearings and focus always on telling the truth and treating people right. >> seth: thank you so much, sarah, for making time for us again. obviously i wish this would be in the studio. and hopefully next time it will be in person please check out sarah's new book "hiding in plain sight. we've got a couple of copies
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♪ >> seth: please come back tomorrow when we will talk to the amazing kelly clarkson and massachusetts congresswoman ayanna pressley. and a new "closer look." we'll be right back with more "late night. ♪ i'm alphonso, and there's more to me than hiv.
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>> seth: i miss bianca and fred. bianca benevenga and fred hedemark are in charge of my sound at the show every night bianca comes to my dressing room and puts on my microphone she then asks fred via walkie-talkie if he's ready. when he says yes, i count to three, and then he tells me via bianca that it sounds good i miss seeing bianca every day i don't miss seeing fred, because i never see fred i mean, i would like to see him. he's just in a different part of the building i could figure out where that is you know, i guess i could go say hi but at this point it would just be awkward if i would, you know, show up and mess up this good thing fred and i have going. what i miss most about bianca and fred is i have not once in six years done a show in theem forgot to hit record, so you have to do everything again from the beginning," something that that has happened multiple times in this attic. point is, i miss bianca and fred ♪ i want to thank my guests,
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ice cube and sarah kendzior. i want to thank my friends fred armisen and the 8g band come back tomorrow for kelly clarkson and congresswoman ayanna pressley. stay tuned for "lilly singh. stay safe. wash your hands. we love you. ♪ ♪
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[ cheers and applause >> lilly: tonight on "a little late with lilly singh," i'm hanging out with christina hendricks from nbc's "good girls. [ cheers and applause here's some tips for hand modeling >> elongate your fingers hold things, you know, a little bit --soyou so [ laughter ] maybe graze the glass. yes. >> lilly: christina would audition for some of the most iconic roles you're a little turned on let's say, okay? [ audience oohs >> oooh.>> lilly: let's say a le turned on. let's break it down. here we go >> toto -- [ laughter ] [ audience oohs i've got a feeling we're not in kansas anymore [ cheers and applause there's tv, and then there's the best entertainment experience. xfinity x1.
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♪ [ cheers and applause >> dj daniel: ladies and gentlemen, please make some noise for your host tonight, lilly singh. ♪ [ cheers and applause >> lilly: oh, what's up? hey. ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay thank you so much. thank you. please have a seat have a seat. have a -- sit down you animals [ cheers and applause thank you so much for being here are you having fun yet [ cheers and applause thank you so much for being here welcome to the show. right off the bat, quick question, how many of y'all use postmates or any other food delivery app make some noise. [ cheers and applause millennials. [ laughter ] that sounds about right, because a recent study said that the average american adult spends $70,000 on take out in their lifetime [ audience gasps ] yes. and the average canadian lilly singh thinks, only $70,000

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