tv Late Night With Seth Meyers NBC September 19, 2020 12:36am-1:35am PDT
♪ >> announcer: tonight on "late night with seth meyers." john cleese, star of "a.p. bio," actor glenn howerton an all-new "closer look. featuring the 8g band with fred armisen and now seth meyers. >> seth: hey, everyone it's day two back in an empty studio and while things aren't normal, they are getting closer. for example, today two different tourists asked me if jimmy fallon was as nice as he seems. so, let's get to the news.
according to audiotapes from a series of interviews with journalist bob woodward released today, president trump said six months ago that the coronavirus was airborne and, quote, "more dangerous than even your strenuous flu," and that he intended to play it down listen to this >> i wanted to always play it down i still like playing it down >> yes >> because i don't want to create a panic >> seth: well, good job with that this country's never been more chill. a lot of people aren't even moving america's as cool as a cucumber right now. sure, we're stealing toilet paper every time we go into a starbucks. and trader joe's looks like the last scene of "apocalypse now. but other than that, it's all good, baby and it's pretty rich that donald trump doesn't want to create a panic did he add, "you know, you have enough on your plate, what with the caravan of migrants coming up to murder your family and all. he straight up admitted that he wanted to play it down imagine if bob woodward's job was always this easy it's as if nixon walked up to him in 1973 and said, "hello, bob, did you know i did watergate?
this is a pretty cool parking garage, huh? well, bye-ee." [ laughter ] that was a very good nixon and, hey, bob woodward, you had this tape months ago and we're just now hearing about it? what else is in your book, the cure for disco fever when you have important information that the public needs to hear immediately, you don't scooch up to your typewriter "the people must know. tick, tick, tick, tick "chapter one." have one of your grandchildren show you how twitter works or something. trump also told woodward that he did not think former president barack obama is a great speaker. well, technically trump said, "man before me talk bad. but, you know, i think that's what he was going for. president trump spoke at a campaign event yesterday in north carolina without a face mask said trump, "but don't worry, i would never dream of coming within six feet of someone from north carolina." during a campaign event in north carolina yesterday, president trump's campaign played "knocking on heaven's door" as supporters waited for
trump to arrive. and if you think that's a little on the nose, this was the next song ♪ ♪ you give me fever when you kiss me ♪ >> seth: president trump claimed yesterday that former vice president joe biden's housing policies will increase low-income housing projects and added, quote, "so much for the american dream." oh oh, dude, look around. the american dream's been gone for a while now. right now the american dream is just the air is not poisoned and handshakes don't kill you. british prime minister boris johnson announced today that the uk will ban social gatherings of more than six people following a sharp increase in coronavirus cases. luckily, that won't affect the weekly meeting of the boris johnson fan club according to a new poll, 52% of american adults believe that coronavirus is a health crisis while the other 48% believe -- well, i mean, pretty much anything vice president mike pence campaigned in pennsylvania today. his speech went well, but he had to put a quarter in the swear
jar every time he said "fracking. in a new campaign video, senator kamala harris told former president barack obama that she works out every morning to stay focused and energized. damn, she was this close to being relatable. we don't have to hear you work out every morning. president trump announced yesterday that he will fund his campaign with his own money if necessary. but before he cuts himself a check, he's obviously going to have to sleep with himself first. "rules are rules." health officials in los angeles have banned trick-or-treating this year due to the coronavirus pandemic so, if you want to wear a mask and get candy from a stranger, you'll just have to go to the grocery store. a karaoke bar in brooklyn was shut down over the weekend after authorities discovered it had ignored coronavirus safety guidelines and allowed almost 300 people to drink inside boy, you hate to hear that people singing karaoke, i mean [ laughter ] one of the few silver linings. and, finally, producers of "jeopardy!" have announced that the show will return with new episodes next week with host
alex trebek. oh, i know this one. [ ding ] what is the one good thing that has happened in 2020 and that was the monologue, everybody. we got a great show for you tonight. the legendary john cleese will be here. he's got a new book "creativity: a short and cheerful guide." plus, from "always sunny in philadelphia" and "a.p. bio," which is now streaming on peacock, glenn howerton will be here but first, "a closer look. so yesterday we checked in on my old friend the sea captain as he was making his way through my copy of "the thorn birds" back in the captain's quarters. but i want to make clear to everyone who is worried, the sea captain is not coming back i haven't spoken to him since i left those captain's quarters. although when i went down to the bank of the east river this morning for my daily constitutional, i did find this message in a bottle floating in the water. and let's see here what it says. "hey, seth, what did the pirate say to his ex-wife when they spotlighted a lighthouse 'land, ho.'" jesus. god help whoever he ends up with next
and, hey, speaking of needing help -- studio segue -- the president held an old-fashioned campaign rally in north carolina, as if the coronavirus pandemic that's still raging out of control had just magically disappeared for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ >> seth: now is typically the time in the political calendar when an incumbent president who's trailing badly in the polls starts to get desperate. and donald trump couldn't look any more desperate if he was crammed into a phone booth begging for the glengarry leads. no human being on earth reeks of desperation more than donald trump he sweats like a guy at the otb who bet everything on a horse named "ol' three legs. now we all know that trump doesn't just lie he belches out the most outlandish lies he can think of, especially when he's desperate supporters that despite whatn they can see and hear with their own eyes and ears, mexico really is paying for the dumb border wall he didn't build
and honestly, it was a real throwback to hear the old mexico border wall lie again. it was like hearing "uptown funk" on the radio and thinking, "oh, man, i used to hear this song at the gym. and i used to go to the gym. and i used to leave my apartment. ha 'uptown funk you up,' indeed." but, yeah, "mexico's paying for the wall" is back. now, to be clear the parts of the wall that have been built or renovated were funded not by mexico, but by taxpayer dollars that congress allocated for the defense department trump used a national emergency declaration to pull funds that were supposed to be spent on military construction projects, schools and daycares, among other things that money, your money, went to his wall but on tuesday, trump tried to paper over that with a new breathtakingly stupid lie about how mexico would supposedly pay for the wall >> and you know mexico is paying for the wall, just so you understand they don't say that. they never say it. but we're going to charge a small fee at the border. you know, the toll booths. we have toll booths.
they're the -- it's the biggest border in the world in terms of people going across and in terms of industry, believe it or not, the southern border. we're putting a small toll on and maybe we're going to do something with remittance. that's where people come here, make money and they send it back so we'll do something. we're going to get all the money that we spent in the mall -- wall will be coming back >> seth: wait. so now you're going to put toll booths on the southern border and charge people a fee when they drive across? that's your plan it's one of the largest international borders in the world, not the verrazzano bridge they're coming from mexico, not staten island. thank god. [ laughter ] "we're going to charge them a toll, and no e-zpass, folks. we're going to have those little baskets where you toss the coins and -- you remember those. and you have to have the exact change you absolutely have to have the exact change and if you miss and you're out of coins in your car, you've got to get out of your car and you've got to pick it up while everyone honks at you. we're also going to put in some of those coin-operated binoculars so if they miss home, they have to pay 50 cents to look back at mexico maybe one of those grocery store kitty rides. those guys are cash cows it'll add up
it'll buy a wall." honestly, why does he even come up with elaborate explanations if you're going to lie, keep it simple your hardcore fans will believe anything just have eric come on stage in a sombrero and a fake mustache pretending to be the president of mexico presenting you with a giant novelty check for a gajillion pesos. "oh, look, everyone, the president of mexico is here. "no, dad, it's me, eric. "oh, idioto! so that's what the president was talking about as the pandemic continued to rage out of control, rising in at least 22 states. [ laughter ] now we know these events have seeded outbreaks trump's tulsa rally in june likely seeded an outbreak there according to the local health director and yet, trump keeps doing them anyway because he doesn't bob woodward that he downplayed the threat from the virus. and at the rally he actually expressed amazement at how many people had come out to his super spreader event >> i'm thrilled to be in winston-salem, with thousands of loyal, hard-working american patriots you are great people, great people
[ cheers and applause i don't know how many people here, but there's a lot. [ cheers and applause we said, "let's keep it down." they didn't do too good a job, but that's good, right that's good. no, these crowds, i tell you, it's beyond what we had in terms of enthusiasm, beyond what we had four years ago in 2016 and that was a record enthusiasm and we are breaking that record by a lot >> seth: "it's incredible how many people are here chanting, and yelling, and coughing in close proximity to each other. also, we got a couple of beach balls bouncing around the crowds so make sure you get your hands and your mouths on those." now, as we head down the home of the presidential campaign, we're in a moment of acute national crisis unlike anything we've seen in a century. there are multiple crises colliding all at once -- a raging pandemic, an economic crash, the collapse of our democracy, the dismantling of the post office, the breakdown of the school system, a housing crisis, widespread food insecurity, extreme weather events supercharged by climate change, a national reckoning
over systemic racism there's even -- true story -- a national coin shortage we just didn't notice because everyone's too scared to use coins now. and when you do, you have to wipe it down so much you can't even tell who's on it anymore. i mean, i think that's maybe the dude from zz top is that you, billy gibbons ♪ uh-huh-huh-huh oh, [ bleep ]. are the graphics going to start talking now? hey, zz top lincoln, what's the difference between you in real life and you on a penny? ♪ legs we have limited crew back, but the people who say no to jokes like that are still out of the building in fact, things are so bad, even trump seems aware on some level that we've careened way over the precipice and plunged down into the abyss. in the middle of a rant about god knows what -- honestly, i couldn't explain it, and it's not worth trying - he was, i guess, telling his crowd to imagine what it would be like if they return to earth 3,000 years from now >> you come back in a thousand years, 2,000 years or 3,000 years, if you're lucky enough, assuming we have something
with -- with -- the world is a crazy place, isn't it? >> seth: what? is it slam poetry night in the head injury ward yeah, man, we know the world is crazy. did you just wake up from a four-year kfc coma "last thing i remember i was chugging gravy out of a bucket and then i fell asleep on the trump tower escalator. the world is a crazy place, and you're a big reason for that trump makes everything crazy he's like the friend who shows up at your place at 3:00 a.m with a vape pen, a handle of vodka and a duffle bag asking if he can crash with you. and then when you're getting ready for work in the morning he says, "bro, you look tired." but in particular two of the simultaneous crises we're currently dealing with are a rapid slide into autocracy and an out of control pandemic and in many ways they're related. like any would-be dictator, trump doesn't care about the public health response to the pandemic, or preventing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of americans unless it benefits him personally that's why he hawked one miracle cure after another touted by cable pundits, and a pillow salesman, and a doctor who
believes in demon sperm. it doesn't matter that they're crazy or incompetent, just that they praised him if trump met an herbalist who complimented his tie, he'd show up to his next press conference with some tinctures and sage "all right, everyone, we're going to smudge the room and then drink some honeysuckle extract while holding one of these crystals they're just rocks i dug up in the rose garden. we're calling them crystals though." in fact, trump is once again desperately hoping for a coronavirus silver bullet to revive his political fortunes. he's pressuring the cdc and fda to approve a coronavirus vaccine before november despite the fact that experts have said that's unlikely and yet on monday, trump announced that a vaccine could be ready by october, which just happens to be right before the election >> under my leadership, we'll produce a vaccine in record time because now they see we've done an incredible job. and in speed, like nobody's ever seen before. this could have taken two or three years, and instead it's going to be -- [ laughter ] it's going to be done in a very short period of time could even have it during the month of october
he's like an inveterate gambler who's in deep with a loan shark. "i quit gambling and i can get you your money you just got to give me the day after the kentucky derby don't let me down again, ol' three legs." and, look, we all desperately want a vaccine as soon as humanly possible, but we want it to be safe and effective so enough people will get it and we can put this nightmare behind us unfortunately, the way trump is going, he's going to start handing out vials of diet coke at his rallies labeled "vaccine." trump sees no distinction between the government and his personal interests america's slide into autocracy and the administration's horrific response to the coronavirus pandemic are related crises aspiring dictators like trump only care about what serves their interest trump and the gop are an authoritarian movement, and in a functioning democracy the people responsible for this crisis would be banished from power for -- >> a thousand years, 2,000 years or 3,000 years >> seth: this has been "a closer look." ♪ >> seth: we'll be right back with john cleese. ♪
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"oscar"-nominated writer, and co-founder of "monty python. his new book "creativity: a short and cheerful guide" is available now. please welcome back to the show, the always wonderful, john cleese. how are you, john? >> hi, seth. i -- this is my little friend seth, and he wanted to meet you. i hope that's all right. >> seth: oh, my goodness and what a delight to meet him >> and a shout out what did you call me, a comedy legend >> seth: i called you a comedy legend [ laughter ] >> no, i've been promoted. i'm a comedy icon now. >> seth: oh, my goodness when did that happen >> it happened last friday, which is why everybody doesn't know about it yet. but i am an icon >> seth: that's fantastic. i mean, i'm assuming that's like one of those things where the queen knights you and there's different orders of merit, right? get promoted the next stage for me is national institution what do you sir? are you an icon or a legend, perhaps? >> seth: i think i -- you know, i know i was an "up-and-comer"
for a long time. [ laughter ] and now, i think the last i've heard, i'm "established. >> ah, very good >> seth: yeah, it's not a bad place to be. >> now seth, you're very important. seth, you're very important to me >> seth: well, it's a -- you know it -- >> because you're the first writer - >> seth: well, thank you >> -- i've spoken to about the book because you were head writer on "saturday night live" for how long >> seth: i've -- probably about a, six or seven years i think i held that job. >> amazing so, what i said in the book, did you recognize it or do you have a different process? >> seth: well, i mean, the one thing i want to talk to you most about is collaboration >> ah. >> seth: because you sort of speak a lot about how collaboration brought out the best in your creativity. >> yes, i think so if i always wrote with graham chapman and i felt if i was writing with graham, i would usually get somewhere that i wouldn't get on my own even if it was a result of set of misunderstandings
[ laughter ] >> seth: you know, i was wondering -- you know, because one of the things i should point out about this book, is you believe that people do have a creativity unlocked in them. because i think a lot of people might just think to themselves, i'm not a creative person. and one of the reasons you point out in the book, is that creativity is not ever really taught in schools as a skill >> no! >> seth: it's not allowed to develop early on >> it's kind of amazing that you can go through a whole good educational career without anyone ever telling you about creativity it's astounding. but that's just the way we think. and we accept it without really questioning it i mean, i had no idea that i had any creative ability at all because i got into cambridge on science. and it's quite hard to be creative if you're studying science, unless you're stephen hawking, you know? >> seth: yeah, you never want to hear that you have a very creative scientist [ laughter ]
although, i guess we can take some creative scientists right now. i shouldn't say that but let me ask this, when did you -- because it was sort of later -- not later, but you weren't in your adolescence when you realized that you wanted to be a comedian. what was the first time like that you wrote comedy? >> um, i wrote some sketches at cambridge. i mean, i did one or two "house entertainments," they were called at school, but it never occurred to me i might finish up i came to the low middle class, and everybody was either a solicitor, which is a lawyer that doesn't appear in court, or they became an accountant, or they ran a shop, you know. if you're -- you're not going to be a comedian any more than you're going to be a matador or, you know, a pope it just isn't on the radar screen but when i discovered i could make people laugh, i never thought i'd go into the profession but what's so lovely about making people laugh, is that it's a good feeling.
it's a good feeling for you and a good feeling for them, right >> seth: and did you -- the first time - because i certainly remember those early times of having that rush of not just feeling good because they're laughing, but knowing that they were feeling good as well was that an immediate opiate for you, the idea of making people laugh? >> yes yes. it's a lovely feeling. i mean, and i still get it i went out on the stage at the acropolis in athens last november there were 4,000 people stacked up on a stage that people have been performing on for 2,000 years. and there's something about being on a stage in front of an audience or going out, you know, and doing the opening monologue. it can be scary, but it's so real there you are trying to make people laugh >> seth: i think the acropolis -- you definitely have to be an icon to play the acropolis [ laughter ] they don't - >> i'll have a word with the house of commons this year if i can get you promoted >> seth: not a lot of -- not a
lot of open mic nights at the acropolis. [ laughter ] >> that's funny. so, listen, when you read the book, did you agree with what i was saying or do you find that there were bits that were not what your process was? >> seth: well, one thing i really agreed with, it's i think very hard to explain and i do want to talk to you about the fact that you have spent a lot of time studying the human mind as well, is the very fact that we can be creative unconsciously. and -- >> yes >> seth: 'cause i think that sometimes, you know, when comedy comes out good, it looks as though the mind had always constructed it that way. but you talk about the idea that sometimes you'd hit problems and all that it would take to solve it would be a good night sleep >> yeah. and i couldn't figure out why a problem that i was unable to sort out at 10:00 at night, and i could wake up the next morning, make a cup of coffee and sit down and the solution in 90 seconds i could see what to
do, and i couldn't think what was the problem the previous evening. and i realize it was only because my unconscious was actually -- went on working while i was asleep and then i lost a script i was writing with graham, and i knew he'd be cross with me. so i had to rewrite it out by memory to pretend i hadn't lost it and then i found the original, and the one i had done from memory was better. it was more concise, and clever and tight. it was a better bit of writing but i hadn't been trying to make it better. >> seth: um, i have more questions for you about the book and the way you think the mind works. we'll be right back with more john cleese right after this ♪ boost mobile's new upgraded network has a stronger signal and faster speeds. it's not just fast - it's super fast. we like it.
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♪ >> seth: welcome back to "late night. we're here with john cleese. uh, you were telling that story about writing from memory and the draft being better i sometimes find that when i'm stuck, like, i'll have it open on my computer, and i will just open a clean document and sort of start over. because sometimes, you know, i'll look back, but sometimes when you put a word down on the page you have a -- you're sort of falling in love with it in a way that you need to not do. and -- [ laughter ] and so, like, i just am like, "you're going to sit over here, and we're going to try to rebuild you from the bottom up." like creatively clean out the mind because, sometimes you think your ideas -- you don't want to throw them away. but sometimes it's good to just like, i don't know -
>> but when you play with an idea -- i mean, all the research on creativity puts all the emphasis on play can you play the great research was done at berkeley in the '70s by a guy called mackinnon and he discovered that it was nothing to do with intelligence. it was all to do with can you play and kids, of course, can play, "child-like play," he described it as. and kids can play, because their parents are minding the shop and what kills play is ordinary everyday responsibilities, having to remember to do this and do that, and you've got to f that so in order for an adult to become creative, he has to construct conditions in which he can play in which he can actually forget about every day. well you can only do that, if you sort of shut the door or go and sit in the park where you're not going to be interrupted.
and then do that for about at least an hour, probably an hour and a half, because the first 20 minutes your mind is just chattering, when you first start saying, "oh, i should be calling this, or i should be doing that, or i should be buying the hamster a birthday present." all that kind of nonsense. and then as that settles, like it does like a meditation, then and only then, can you start just having a very relaxed play with the ideas that you're talking about. and that's very hard to do at the moment, particularly with all the electronic interruptions that are going on, people glued to their phone you cannot be creative if you're running around answering the phone and looking at your watch all the time it's got to be -- you've got to be quiet what you think >> seth: you know, i wonder if this has ever been contentious for you in relationships but sometimes, you know, i have a wife who's incredibly well organized and knows exactly what's happening
and then, sometimes she'll say we're going to go on a 90-minute errand you should write now and, i try to explain to her, like, it just doesn't -- as much as i wish it worked like that, it doesn't quite work like that. you do need -- like, you almost just need 90 minutes to get it all started. >> yes >> seth: have you been able to explain that process of needing time to your - i guess, let's just call it what it is, your many wives [ laughter ] >> well, it all depends. what i've often noticed is that very, very good writers are smart enough to marry women who kind of look after them. >> seth: yeah. >> and kind of allow them to be a bit childlike, and deal with all the responsibilities and then these guys can spend all the day playing with ideas and writing. >> seth: but you saying that will make my wife want to marry you. [ laughter ] >> my wives have tended to
require a bit more attention than that. [ laughter ] >> seth: your actually, your third wife was a therapist, correct? >> she was a therapist that's right >> seth: and did you -- was it easier to be married to someone who had a good sense of how relationships worked obviously by being someone who's in therapy >> well, she was a therapist who didn't really think that she herself could change and i thought that was a bit of a fraud, because if you try and change other people [ laughter ] then i think you should be interested in changing yourself. [ laughter ] >> seth: well, you know, i know a lot of writers who are very good at giving you advice about your writing and then when you give them advice about theirs, they say, "no, mine is perfect as it is. [ laughter ] >> no, that's right. no, you've got to accept that you can always improve it. and when i write anything, like at the moment, i got an idea for a light comedy about cannibalism. >> seth: oh, good. >> and it's going to be called "yummy." [ laughter ]
and i've already shown it to about 10 or 12 people, and every one of them makes a suggestion like i said to my wife a week ago, i said, "this guy is in a big building, big office, sort of hotel, and he's got to hide somewhere. where can he hide? and within a minute she said to me, "in a grandfather clock. [ laughter ] and i thought that was wonderful. so i get people to help me and one of the things, if i've got a narrative, i tell the story to someone over coffee because the moment that they just kind of go, and you lose them, that's the moment you've got to work on >> seth: and do you find that you've sort of cultivated a group of friends that you trust with your writing? i imagine over the years one thing that happens when you are an icon, is people are maybe loathed to be honest with you. >> well, that is a problem, yeah >> seth: so i imagine it's really helpful to have friends that you trust >> yes
well, it's also important to phrase the question right. you don't say what are the two things that are wrong with this script "you say, how can i make it better give me two suggestions of making it better." so if you phrase it in a positive way, people then can make suggestions >> seth: well, that is a very good piece of advice for us, not just in writing but in all things, to look for positive solutions rather than to ask for negative feedback. >> yeah. >> seth: it is always a positive experience to spend time with you, john. hopefully next time in person. always great to see you. >> yeah, i hope we can do it next time in person. >> seth: all right >> bye bye >> seth: cheers. good-bye, bear >> bye >> seth: john cleese, everybody. "creativity: a short and cheerful guide" is out now we'll be right now - we'll back, excuse me, with glenn howerton ♪ they don't care where you're from.
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door so anthony and i can plant the glitter bomb and retreat very easily we just need -- we need somebody to distract granny [ bleep ]bird. we need the ultimate distractor. how about you, sarika? you seem like you go into a lot of stores and ask to speak to the manager. >> only if the customer service is subpar. >> you ask to speak to my manager. >> it's called a hairnet, grace. >> okay, no. but we need a true distraction here >> if it comes to it, i'd be willing to show my kazoo >> ewww. >> you -- no no come on, no. and please never tell us what you're referring to. >> seth: please welcome to back to the show our friend glenn howerton how are you, buddy >> hey, man. i'm good how are you? >> seth: i'm very good i do miss having you here in person because you often show up in sartorial splendor. did you dress up at all for us today? >> eh, no, not really. just sort of a green shirt today. you know what i thought you were
going to say, is that i thought you were going to say you missed my hugs. >> seth: i do. i do miss your hugs. but mostly while i'm hugging you, i just want to have your style. [ laughter ] what a very well-appointed office though. is it safe to say you're in an office right now >> i'm actually not in an office >> seth: are you in a closet [ laughter ] >> this is - i'm not that opulent no it's like a little -- it's like a tv room basically, like a media room >> seth: you -- i want to ask this question. you obviously -- none of us, i'm not dressed up either for this because we're living in a time where a lot of the standards are lower. i know you just celebrated an eleventh wedding anniversary is a celebration like that during a pandemic, does it take the pressure off a little bit because you cannot obviously roll out the red carpet? >> yeah. yeah, totally. no, it's an opportunity to kind of be like, well, i guess i can't -- i guess i can't really -- we can't really do anything for this [ laughter ]
you know, it's sad to think of that as an opportunity no, but we did we kept it very simple i mean, i think last time i was on there actually, we talked about my wife and i's tenth anniversary trip >> seth: yeah, which was a bit of a - i guess a boating mishap, right? like, you were outdoors, you were doing all the things we used to do and, let's be honest, this year went probably better for you >> uh, yeah. well, anything where i'm not throwing up off the back of a boat is -- [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> -- is much better for me. >> seth: you are -- you're in california right now, which is based on everything you see and hear, a very hot place to be right now. maybe a little bit of a scary place to be right now. how are you? i know your kids are eight and six. how are they handling school how are you guys getting through it >> uh, i mean, everybody's taking it in stride. i mean, look, i can't complain i'm financially stable california does seem to be on
fire i can't seem to stop my eyes from watering. i'm assuming that's because of the fires. either that or it's i'm crying about something that i'm, you know, subconsciously unaware of. >> seth: like a super repressed thing is coming out during this time [ laughter ] >> that's possible it's possible. no, i mean, we're teaching our kids at home kind of splitting our days between teaching the kids and, you know, trying to get our own work done. and you know, just kind of riding this thing out. it's not so bad. i mean, i -- luckily, i actually like my wife we enjoy each other's company. so, um, it's - >> seth: that's good i'm finding the same it's a very nice thing to realize, like, "oh, we're doing good with all this time," which is very nice to find out how do you -- how are eight and six in so far as they can handle attention spans of doing school right now? >> that has been a struggle for sure because, you know, especially the kindergartner. i mean, he
he's very social he wants to be, you know, moving around and stuff and zoom's not really conducive to that. and you know, my kids are -- i mean, they do okay, but they're also a little bit the kind of kids that would, like, sit in the back of the class and like hope that the teacher doesn't ever call on them or notice them. [ laughter ] which is a lot easier to pull off when you're on zoom. as a matter of fact, actually the other day i looked in the play room, which is where my kindergartner is doing zooms and the zoom call was happening and i could hear it. and i looked in there, and he was just, like, draped across the chair like in a superman pose like not paying attention to the zoom at all. just like doing -- i don't know what he was doing. but he was not doing school. >> seth: it's good it's good to give kids room to make their own choices [ laughter ] this is very exciting. you know, i think both you and i are excited and delighted that
there even is a season three of "a.p bio. for those who don't know, was an nbc show that then got picked up on nbc's new streaming service peacock. and you guys had shot eight episodes of ten when this hit. do you remember that day like when the decisions were being made because they were being made pretty quickly >> i remember there was a lot of talk about it. i remember we were a little stressed about being able to finish eight because i remember thinking if we can get eight out, i think you can release eight episodes and it almost feels like a full season of television you know, so luckily, we were able to get that done. i was also in the middle of i think editing the episode that i had directed a couple weeks prior. so i was in the middle of editing that and then, you know, things shut down you know, there was a part of me at the time i was, like, "oh, well, this would be a good opportunity to just, like, rest. because i'm tired. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> you know. but luckily, we got eight good
episodes out before we - >> seth: it's a delight to watch. one of the most jarring things about watching it right now is that it takes place in a high school and i'm wondering if that is refreshing for people to look at a school where no one is worried about things like social distancing, or if it is like a horror movie to just watch people touching each other and bumping into each other in the hallways i personally find it the former obviously. >> yeah. it's strange because you see that, and it seems like such strange behavior now to see, like people talking face to face and, you know, hugging each other. and you know, being in proximity with each other without wearing masks. so it's both, like horrifying and also like, you pine for it at the same time i don't know that there's too many things you can watch where you're both horrified by it and you pine for it at the same time [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. you have this incredible supporting cast with patton oswalt. obviously paula pell one of the things that's really
fun about this season is you classroom. this is onns but it's the same kids in the classroom and there's a really nice chemistry with you guys. it must be fun to, you know, not only get to know the characters better and know how to react to them, but to get to know the actual actors as well. >> oh, god i adore this cast. i'm the luckiest man in the world. like, i love working with these people i get to laugh all day long. i mean, every single -- all the students, all the other teachers, everybody is a, you know, a scene stealer. and i mean that in a good way, like they're all so funny. and it just -- it tickles me i'm having a blast, you know and the kids especially, because they were, you know, younger actors it's been really fun to watch them get more and more confident as, you know - in the third season they came in so sure of themselves. and you know, that just makes them more comfortable and funnier. and you know, you can kind of riff and improv with them and stuff. they've just been amazing.
>> seth: you are one of our most excellent thespians when it comes to playing likeable jerks. and i mean that sincerely. but, you know, over the course of the series and certainly more this year, like, he seems to like where he is more and like the people he's around more. is that more fun to play or do you enjoy the more irascible where he started >> i think -- it's been more fun for me because it allows me to play notes that i haven't been able to play as an actor very much you know, i mean, my other character on "it's always sunny in philadelphia" is in no way, shape, or form warm. [ laughter ] to get to play that is nice. and it's also nice because it creates a lot of conflict for the character because, you know, my character still really wants to think of himself as this elitist hollywood philosopher. you know, but he's slowly being faced with the fact that maybe he could be happy with just being a hometown toledo boy, which is also his worst nightmare. so there's this great tension,
you know, within the character that he wants to be one thing, but he feels something else and he can't quite give into it. so -- but he's definitely, like, i think he's really growing close to these kids and to the other faculty and he really loves these people and it's fun to play that. he just can't admit it >> seth: you mentioned dennis and it's incredible to say, but there's a -- it's looking very likely now that there is going to be a 15th season of "always sunny. which is just -- i mean, it continues to be an incredible accomplishment, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be noted so congratulations on that as well >> thanks, man yeah, no, we're very lucky i mean, hopefully the show is now at a point where it just kind of feels ubiquitous, it just is. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> and all it will be. you know - [ laughter ] i think there are some people who -- i've met kids that are like i started watching your show when i was in junior high and i'm, like dude, you're 30. [ laughter ] the show's been out a long time. >> seth: it's very funny to
think of like "60 minutes" in the same class as "always sunny. [ laughter ] which is like, "yeah, i think that show's just -- it's on. hey, man, always great to see you. give love to the family. and i hope to see you soon >> yeah. i hope we get to -- i want to give you one of my, you know, warm bodily hugs at one point. >> seth: one of those classic hugs [ laughter ] all right, thanks so much. >> classic warm body hugs. good to see you, man >> seth: good to see you too glenn howerton, everybody. all three seasons of "a.p. bio" are streaming on peacock and check out the a.p. -- "a.p. bio," excuse me, podcast, which is available now we'll be right back with more "late night. ♪ t-mobile and sprint have merged. and t-mobile doesn't just have a bigger network, but a better one than ever before, with scam protection built into its core. introducing, scamshield, free from t -mobile.wer am calls. with t-mobile's supercharged network,
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