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>> brennan: it's sunday september 2nd, i'm margaret brennan this is "face the nation." saturday's send off for john mccain capped emotional week of tributes. >> my father was a great man. he was a great warrior. he was a great american. i had mired him for all of these things but i love him because he was a great father. >> brennan: friends. >> a special satisfaction that comes from serving a cause greater than yourself. i heard john say those words hundreds of times, but for him we know they were not just words in a speech they were the creed that he lived by.
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>> brennan: and political fo foes. >> what better way to get a last laugh but to make george and i say nice things about him to a national audience. >> brennan: although mccai mccain's biggest political antagonist was not in attendan attendance, daughter meghan sent towards him. >> the america of john mccain has no need to be made great again because america was always great. >> brennan: what is next for politics after mccain's pass jo. plus a conversation with mccain friend and senate colleague john kerry about his new book "every day is extra" reflections on his service to the country as a democratic nominee in 2004 president obama secretary of state. all that plus plenty of political analysis coming up on "face the nation." good morning and welcome to
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"face the nation." thousands turned out at washington national cathedral yesterday to honor john mccai mccain. those who eulogized him rebuked the politics of today's political climate and remembered mccain as one who aspired to do better. >> we gather here to mourn the mass passing of american grea greatness, the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly. nor the opportunistic appropriation of those who lived lives of comfort and privilege while he suffered and served. >> so much of our politics, our public life, our public discourse seems small. and mean. and petty. basking in become past and insult. and phony controversies and
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manufactured outrage. it's a politic that pretends to be brave and tough but in fact is in fear. john calls on us to be bigger than that. called on us to be better than that. >> brennan: one of the attendees at saturday's memorial service for john mccain here in washington was ohio republican governor john kasich. he joins me here. thank you for coming in. i know you were there at the memorial service, something that senator mccain thought through, he planned, orchestrated every little bit of it, what do you think his message was? >> come together. have guts. stand up. that's the thing about john. john was so comfortable with himself, leaders walk among and john did not like people that did this, put their finger in the air get the wind.
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he was so comfortable with himself, really didn't matter to him who he was going to have to take on or what cause he was going to go for. if he felt it in his bones, in his heart, in his soul then he went forward. i think that was the message >>: meghan mccain -- >> made me cry. she made me cry for two reasons. one was, the deep love she had for her father, you know the other thing that made me cry? the deep love that sometimes girls have for their daddies. i got two little girls, they're not little any more, they're in college. it just brought everything home. she was just incredible and -- >> brennan: she is her fathe father's daughter. she was strong in her words. it was clear who she was thin thinking about. >> noaller what position, he built a bridge. now we have a leader who is either unable or unwilling to unite the country.
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and at the same time to be ail to use the strength, the strength of america, whether the military or the politr it's strength to make the world a better place, to use our leadership to raise the bar, to get to a better place in the world. and that these are things that frustrated john that we were not unified. >> brennan: is there another republican like john mccain? many of your fellow republicans, many sitting there at that service would say, yes, the president may be a flawed individual but he's a flawed vessel for an agenda that we have whether it's tax reform or getting more conservative judges on courts throughout the country including the supreme court. >> it's not a trans. you know, today, we look for politician, is that not only understand the issues but also can engage in abilities of poetry, can bring us together. >> brennan: who is that? >> i don't think that's the time to project who that is but i will tell you family separation is not american value at the
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border. the idea we're going to deport these people, that's not to me american value. bringing up massive debt, we like the tax cut there was no tax reform. it was a problem. and trying to strip health care away from 20 million americans, seem as though we have been ba backing a lot of people into a corner using our power, our economic power to get what we want. and in the short run we might win. but think about somebody who is powerful, somebody who is rich, who forces you to do things that you bitterly resent. there are better ways to get it done without having to use your power to extract what you want. sometimes you got to be tough as nails, mccain was. i am. but at the end, most of the time it's persuasion, it's seeking the better angels in life that allow us to be more successful than pounding on people. >> brennan: john mccain's editor, he questions, do you need to kill the party of trim top save the party of lincoln. a
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>> we're in a tug of war. we understand, i understand the difficulties of people have but the party is worth fighting for. >> brennan: yet this week we saw some primaries in florida and arizona where those running on republican ticket seem to have to pass a testa loyalty test to trumpism. that kind of contradicts some of the conservative party you're describing. >> fortunately our party is shrinking, now down to about 5%, it's becoming like remnant. parties go through this but the party has shrunk. in my state and in my community, and in my district we had a congressional race that the republican who took my place was able to win by 17 points, just a couple of weeks ago, he won by the skin of his teeth. i talked to him the other day, i'm proud of him. he's saying that the tariffs are a bad idea. he's also beginning to say, you know what he said, turn off the television. don't listen to all the talk television and lotus get
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together as americans. i'm proud of him. >> brennan: president trump endorsed him. >> i worked with him in the legislature, i heard him articulate views that would be independent. there are republicans i'm not campaigning for. i just won't do it. because if you're a divider if you can't see the fact that we need to unify people, then i can't be for you. nothing personal. i just can't help you. >> brennan: will you campaign for him in november? >> i don't think it will be a problem. he's off to a good start and the district is so overwhelmingly republican, that's what was so shocking about the closeness of the race, he's going to be fine. so many other places with democrats will use their resources. they need to get their act together. we spend so much time about how lost the republicans are, think about the democratic party moving farther to the left that's not -- our country is center right or center left. it's not on the extremes. your political party shouldn't matter so much.
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vote for the person. >> brennan: if you were to run yourself in 2020 as many are saying you might, you would still run as republican, no the as independent, not as another voice. >> i am -- well, i'm going to do my level best. but at the end i worry about my country. i worry about my country being a great leader in the world not more conflict which can lead t to -- let's not even go there. my want my country where people that live in this country, whoever they are, to feel as though they have a hope, they're respected they can be successf successful. that is me is what it is really all about. >> brennan: last question. you knelt in front of john mccain's coffin at the capito capitol, what were you thinking? >> i had a word with john. i said, john, you remember i called you when you were sick and i asked you if you were okay with the big guy. and i said, john, i'll see you up there some day. keep the place open for me, would you? i got up and left. >> brennan: gov>> brean: alsoe
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who mourned john mccain yesterday his old friend former senate colleague john kerry. we spoke with him earlier this summer prior to mccain's abt what kerry hoped to do in his new book "every day is ext extra." >> you work to implement our democracy by reaching out across the aisle, by building relationships, by believing in the better angels of american value system. and i think john mccain did that. i did that. others have done that. but right now we have a culture divide that has been accentuated by political so-called leaders. and what they're doing is, they're operating in a factless world. and my book i think is a display of the ways in which you challenge those who would try to tear it apart and not deal with
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facts and how you in fact can hold the system accountable, get back to the fact-based democracy we rely on. >> are you going to be hitti the campaign trail? >> you bet i am. i think that is most important work we can do right now is trying to elect people on a national basis and restore the leadership of the country. >> how do you define what democrats stand for these days? >> i think each democratic candidate is going to define it as they go out and speak to people in their districts, out of that i believe will come the future consensus that is necessary to take the party as a whole to a better place. >> brennan: but it's a party in crisis. >> well, i'll probably get smacked for this, but you know, what i learned running for president is, that you don't have a party, per se, where you have adherence to a strict platform, et cetera. you have an ama amalgamationa gp
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of people who call themselves democrats but they speak with different nuances and different approaches to various aspects of political choices. >> brennan: are you going to run in 200? >> i'm not thinking about that. talking about 00 right now is a total distraction and waste of time. what we need to do is focus on 2018. >> brennan: i'll ask the same question some time after november. >> if you catch me. >> brennan: you mention running in 2004 you write a lot about it, in some details, some of it was the difficulties along the way. >> i've never said anything much about it. >> brennan: do you regret not fighting back against the attack ads? >> i say this in the book i'm very clear and i take responsibility for it. it's my ultimate -- i'm responsible for not having happened but, yes, i believe it was vital, particularly in the last days of the campaign to be addressing advertisements that were such a grotesque distortion
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of the reality of what happened in the rooms of vietnam. >> brennan: you regret pic picking john edwards as your advice president at that time of as running mate. >> when you articulate those qualities and measure what took place against the qualities that i very much layout there, it didn't measure up. it wasn't what we had hoped for. so there was some disappointment in that. >> brennan: when we come back we'll talk to former secretary of state, john kerry, about his policy differences with the man he served under, president barack obama. thank you clients? well jd power did just rank them highest in investor satisfaction with full service brokerage firms...again. and online equity trades are only $4.95... i mean you can't have low cost and be full service. it's impossible. it's like having your cake and eating it too. ask your broker if they offer award-winning full service and low costs.
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persuading hell to give me the tools i wanted most. greater leverage. >> correct. >> from the moment i was nominated and asked what about syria i said, we have to change the calculation. and throughout four years i was secretary of state, privileged to be so, i always raised the issue in the meetings we had about how we needed to change that calculation. i particularly believed that after assad had been violating cease fires, it was clear he needed to be taught a lesson. he needed to know that we were going to hold him accountable and i raised that, i put several ideas on the table, the president was not persuaded by my argument. i believe that we had several options we could have done at very low risk to be make it clear to assad that when we had a cease fire and he had to live by it. i thought we should have done that.
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as i say in the book, my job and the job of anybody in a cabinet to put an idea in front of the president to argue the idea, the president is the decider and there is no clarity by which i can say to you, i was 100% right or the president was 100% wrong or vice versa. those are the judgments that are made by a president. >> brennan: do you think he was too -- >> had an attitude about syria and a judgment about syria and feeling about where that might take him if he made some of the decisions that i and others proffered. >> brennan: you write about this in detail, entire chapter in the book. you, to be very frank, were hung out to dry here because you went -- >> i don't say that -- >> brennan: i know that. i'm characterizing your r retelling, where you went out and you made the prosecutoria prosecutorial -- simple argument about chemical weapons. >> i write, we paid a price for the way it played out w we got s
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out which was the objective. >> brennan: even though there have been chemical weapon attacks since then. >> we knew there were precursor chemicals and chlorine. those aren't declared. that's just the vagary of the system by which they -- >> brennan: the sarin gas attacks since then. >> that's correct. actually correct. i supported president trump's response to those partially. i supported use of force but i don't support just a one-off where you drop a few bombs there's no follow up diplomacy and no additional effort to try to use the leverage you get out of doing that. i thought that the president should have done that, president trump should have done that an and -- >> brennan: you thought president obama should have done that. >> yes. >> you were sent around the world to rally support for other
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countries to stand with the united states to say that this red line use of chemical weapons needed to be enforced. how difficult was that for you given that the president -- he decided not to go through with the military strikes. >> congress was clearly not going to give him the authority that he wanted. >> brennan: you thought that the president could have gone ahead with those strikes. in the book you write about -- you were surprised when he called you. >> i was surprised i thought we were going to go forward. i thought that weekend was the weekend. i expected the phone call to be telling me that he decided we're striking that night or whatever is going to happen. it wasn't. my job was to vet the policy i did the best i could in going to congress and arguing the case. but i do write that we paid a price for that. there's no question about that, we paid a price. and all the explanations, everything else, doesn't change
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the perception and perceptions sometimes are very telling in diplomacy and politics. >> brennan: you paid a price. the red line moment has come to for many critics of president obama define his foreign policy and define as weak not backing up. >> for many people that's exactly what i ran into. i ran into that in the middle east, something that i had to push back against for a long period of time. and that's why i say perceptio perceptions. perceptions matter, obviously. in everything. but i don't think it's fair in terms of the president, quote, being weak. the president took a lot of very tough positions and did a lot of things that shows the president who had very clear moral compass as well as very cl -- very clear set of values and principles by which he knew he could protect our country. >> brennan: i'm pressing you
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because you write in the book about, even now what you call the open wound in syria that you think almost every day. >> the open wound in syria is that maybe 500,000 people now died, about 100,000 back in 2013 when chemical weapons attack took place. it has been an ongoing atrocity, a violation of every sets of human rights of diplomatic, you run the risk of things. it is a sad history for the international community not just for the united states. it is the failure of the global community to hold a tyrant, a war criminal, accountable for his behavior and to have come together and tried to end the war. what i'm proud of -- what i'm
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proud of this is that we continually tried, we never stopped trying. even though when it was tough and looked black. >> brennan: you took some heat for not stopping that's oak by me. assad is in the driver's seat today because of what russia and iran, hazy, hezbollah has done so we have an open wound. yes. a global, an international community owned open wound. >> brennan: in those days, those very intense days when you were working diplomatically to try to build support to stand with the u.s., if they were to go through with a strike. we were at that press conference in london. >> you asked the magic question, anything that assad could do. >> brennan: is there anything at this point that his government could do or offer that would stop an attack? >> sure. he could turn over every single
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of his chemical weapons in the next week, turn it over. it turned out to be the way we solved the critical problem. it was done purposely in order to put out there a notion without a formal proposal just as an answer to your question which came at the right moment. and within an hour i had a call who said, let's follow up on that. we're interested in seeing if e can make that happen. an advance going back and forth, i write about that as to whether or not they could but after i said it publicly like that, they took that as the possible off ramp and it turned out to be the way to get it done. >> brennan: do you regret that this is the diplomatic of off-ramp that you ended up with that ultimately, what you strongly believe should have happened didn't. >> what i regret is, that there
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is -- that such a incredibly powerful perception gained a foothold the way it did that had an impact on people's judgment about what the president was willing to do or not do. >> brennan: not enforing the red line. >> it's regrettable for everybody. but i don't regret that putting the idea on the table and i think it was a terrific outcome in the sense that we got all the declared weapons out of this. >> brennan: at least two large-scale chemical attacks. >> correct. >> in the past few years. >> during which time he has had an opportunity to reconstitute and gain a foothold there's been no further inspection and nothing else going on. >> brennan: in o from secretary kerry about the current president and mr. trum mr. trump's efforts to undue the iran nuclear depp deal.
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>> brennan: welcome back to "face the nation." we continue with our conversation with former secretary john kerry. you spent a tremendous amount of time working to get this deal with iran for them to freeze their nuclear program. >> yeah. just saying that doesn't make it that. this is the toughest agreement in terms of inspection, accountability, no country has had to do what iran did in order to live up to this. but you just walk away. russia, china, france, germany and britain are all trying to keep this agreement in place. only the united states walked away. only donald trump. his defense secretary thought he should keep it. his intelligence people thought
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he should keep it. the fact is this agreement is working. >> brennan: you tried to -- yes, did i. >> brennan: behind the scene scenes. really angered president trump. you were calling other foreign ministers and spoke with -- >> the policy of the united states was still to support that agreement. >> brennan: but the president thought you were trying to undermine him. >> i was trying to have the policy of the united states of america which is part of the agreement to continue and common sense to continue. and i spoke out. i will always exercise my right to speak out. >> brennan: trump would say he was elected on a platform of exiting this deal and he went out and attacked you personally because of the phone calls you were making. >> i don't put any stock in that. >> brennan: he said john kerry never walked away from the table except to be in a bicycle race. >> i did walk away. we almost walked away on two or three other occasions where we thought it was necessary. relegally unfortunately, i say this sadly, you know, more often
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than not he really just doesn't know what he's talking about. he makes things up. and he's making that up. as he has other things. >> brennan: didn't you want to say something at the time, tweet back at him at president trump when he attacks you? >> i haven't yet. i think america and our democracy are more thoughtful than dishonest tweets. >> brennan: do you think president trump unpredictability is -- can be an asset. >> i would never say no to that. but unpredictability that destroys 70 years of a strongly defended message such as nato. or unpredictability with respect to what your policy is with respect to nuclear weapons or disarmament or whatever or russia is not a good thing. there are certain times where unpredictability invites an over
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reach by a country. >> brennan: our full interview with secretary kerry is available on our website fa facethenation.com. his book was published by simon and shoes cher is a division of cbs. joining us for some political analysis, edward wong is diplomatic international correspondent for the "new york times." salena zito for "the washington examiner" is columnist for the "new york post" also a cnn contributor. march get talev for bloomberg news and cnn political analyst and kelsey snell is congressional reporter for npr. welcome to "face the nation." let's start off with you. secretary kerry there basically laying out his regrets about syria. we know today the secretary of state now, mike pompeo has 3 million people at risk. the pope is warning about this, the u.n. is warning.
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what is the trump administration doing about it? >> trump administration officials say that various people like pompeo, mattis have spoken to their counterparts and to russian officials about this. if you look at the trump policy it's not that different than obama's policy. so far we haven't seen any action that would really push back against large assad military action or backed by russians an and iranians. i think that assad won't feel a hold that. very last hold out of the rebels, he's going to push ahead with whatever he has lined up. >> brennan: despite the tough rhetoric against iran those groups they're backing is wi winning that war and u.s. is not doing anything to stop this slaughter. >> right. i thinkth we saw trump do symbolic action earlier in his administration, fired the missiles on the air field in syria, but that didn't hold assad back. unless there are tougher actions on assad and on his allies
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won't see him holding back at all. >> brennan: they have warned. they're willing to do that. sebe ver clearly to -- >> use of chemical weapons. not just equal with than previous attack, with administration value to get out of syria which also been trying to negotiate if possible if the russians are willing to make commitments. these for policy goals and real conflict. >> brennan: i had former obama administration say, policy is not that different we just felt bad about it. which is incredibly cynical way of looking at what is happening on the ground right now. margaret, i want to ask you just right off the top, the publication you workor bloomberg news, you just had extended sit down with president trump. it sparked his own controversy the president now attacking bloomberg for what he is clai
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claiming was leak of off the record information. bloomberg's denied it. the reporter who printed it came from a different publication. you have not violated that off the record standard in the course of your comments, i know. but what can you explain to us about what happened. >> i should also add the repor reporter also said that without identifying who his source is, it was not. we had an interview with the president, talked to the white house said, our readers are interested in the economy, love to do this for the labor day weekend. granted us interview, supposed to go about 0 minutes, president said he was feeling intellectu intellectually stimulated we about doubled the time. we had 45 highway 50 minutes in the oval office with him and covered the waterfront basically everything from nafta to north korea to jeff sessions. and on the subject of nafta what he told us on the record was that maybe they get deal by
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friday, maybe it would be sort of the near future but either way was convinced that the caan i had no idea how the canadian reporter got information that he published and because we honor off the record agreements i can't talk about what the president might have said off the record. >> brennan: to be clear you have a transcript of the full conversation and the white house has a transcript of the full interview. >> yes. >> brennan: those are the two places where record exists. >> those are. >> brennan: specific place that the president confirmed these off the record comments, he tweeted about them, specific area was about nafta. policy-wise where are we with that because just yesterday the president let out a flurry of tweets saying he might after all withdraw from the agreement that his administration says he had intended to sign on to again. >> the president and white house feel and say that they feel they have the leverage over canada ultimately going into this. but as you know they have of dao
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the mexican president's expiration date in office and they are tryin now to a pact or forcing into two pieces. so got basically to the end of september to get canada on board. make it easy through congress. >> it might be impossible to add canada later if they don't get the final text within the 30 day window, that was started on friday. and congress has been telling the white house about this for some time they're not -- this is not new information to the white house. >> what's interesting if you look at the politics in canada there's not a lot of incentive for the trudeau administration to sign on immediately. his sort of anti-trump stance has been popular with the canadian constituency and also bilateral agreement on trade between canada and u.s. so they can fallsosey tra to. corporate executives have been appreciating the -- pressuring
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keep this as three-part deal or lot of jobs including in the u.s. could be at risk. >> you look at the states that i cover the midwest states like pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, wisconsin, they're all stepping back and looking at this. this is a lot of the reason why a tse voterse towards him and how he conducts these negotiations. >> brennan: we're going to take a moment and come back on the other side of this break. stay with us. as one of the nation's largest investors in infrastructure, we don't just help power the american dream, we're part of it. this is our era. this is america's energy era. nextera energy. could help them save money on car insurance? yea,that and homeowners, renters, motorcycle and boat insurance. huh.that's nice. what happens when you catch a fish?
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>> brennan: we are back with more from our panel. this sense of hope coming out of the senator mccain's memorial service. this emphasis, country over party. bipartisanship. we kind of get a test that have on tuesday, right, when congress heads into session to start these proceedings to confirm judge kavanaugh to the supreme court. anyone remember the sense of civility that they're being called to behave? >> we're already seeing on twitter and from statements on beth the left and right trying to pressure people away from that bipartisanship. we're seeing particularly on the progressive side. there are a number of activist groups saying that democrats should walk out and not attend these hearings. that is not something that democrats in the senate really want -- they don't want that pressure because they say they take this very seriously. and the confirming justice who will have lifetime appointment to the supreme court where they want to be in the room.
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but again progressive activists are aghast about this argument 'not just documents, big fight i'm sure as we've discussed understand past that they want more documents related to kavanaugh's time in public service, particularly his time in the white house. democrats say they haven't received enough and republicans say they have gone far out of their way to make sure that they produce more documents than any other justice nominee has ever seen. this fight is really gearing up progressive, they feel like they're losing a battle against filling the court. they worry that the trump administration is putting a stamp on not just the supreme court, but the lower courts for generations to come. >> brennan: talking about walking out, because basically when it comes to votes this is a fai tacccompli. >> awn inform people have not said how they're going to vote, republicans like to think it is, but progressive say that they could still pressure some people in the middle to change their minds if they are able to get
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the public more engaged. >> >> brennan: how does this resonate with the voters? >> for a lot of voters,, evangelical voters their decision to finally vote for president trim trump was on the supreme court. his ability to pick someone as conservative for the supreme court. he put federalist list out when he was running, this is where a lot of them, went from their reservations to okay i'm going to vote for this guy. they're very energized and excited about this. this is something they're going to be watching, i will say i think one of the most vibrant things we do in congress is watch -- i'm old enough to remember like the judge bork went through the process. these are one of the most vibrant things that congress does. but trump voters are going to be watching this, they're excited about it and they're hopeful
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that he gets across. i think it actually helps entice some voters who are going to stay home in november because they're exhausted to maybe come back out. because they got that win that they wanted. >> brennan: margaret, is some something that they can get those votes? >> i think on balance they do. brett kavanaugh is in the mainstream of conservative background judges. he's served for a long time in the bush administration, there are a lot of documents available about him. you can see being nominated by different mainstream republican president. and part of the question about privilege does go to his time, pretty long standing pattern of privilege. also find that as lawyer, getting a ton of work, he's president bush's lawyer as well as bunch of the lawyers for former -- officials who may not
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be -- but, look, rebound so it's incredibly important to get this done and there are a lot of people that he's glad to be done with who will be gone after this confirmation. those political reasons as well as the prize of the court. after all he's the president, he won the elections, elections has consequences he has the power to fill a spot on the supreme court. >> brennan: i put margaret on the hot seat. i'm going to ask you personally as well to respond to what has been some criticism of your journalism, huffington post coming out with an article specifically about you saying you didn't identify a republican in a story specifically as republican official. and called into question a lot of your work. i'd t opportunity to respond to that. >> sure. as you can imagine this has been an interesting week for me. it all began through a series of
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tweets by an anonymous troll. and as the internet goes it just expands and expands. i addressed the questions that were asked to ashlee and also i put my own personal tweet out there addressing each issue that this anonymous person did. my editors reviewed everything that i work for and all the places news organizations i work for and they stand behind my work and so do i. >> brennan: you will be i think detailing some of this in the coming days beyond this conversation here. you also, though, have touched on or you mentioned some of the social media outcry. there's been this outcry and some fundraising on behalf of republican congressman, particularly kevin mccarthy on this idea that social media companies are sensoring conservatives. is there anything to that that you have experienced?
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>> sure. i had a story that i wrote for the "new york post" a day or s so -- day or two after cohen and manafort had their lovely little legal issues come out. i went out i talked to trump voters to see, does this change you, does this you away? within 24 hours -- i posted it and in the morning it was gone. there was notice that said it did not need facebook's community standards. received a flurry of direct messages and e-mails and so forth f people who also posted the story said, hey, i put your story up and it's gone. marked as spam, again not mee meeting community standards. and that was just a stratosphe stratosphere. but the "new york post" is considered a conservative publication, i work for two conservative news organizations, one with the washington examin examiner, there is that impression that that happens. >> brennan: social media
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denies, there's going to be some hearings, though, with the twitter ceo in particular answ answering questions this coming week. >> yes. >> brennan: how much of an issue. >> it's going to ab huge issue, already seeing telegraphs from many republican offices to talk about this very directly with the ceo. i would expect, though, that this may not get as much coverage because it's going to be happening at the same time as the kavanaugh hearing. i will be interested which thing breaks through on that day. >> brennan: we have some mixed messages coming from the trump administration on north korea policy. the president saying he blames china for any kind of progress being stalled right now with denuclearization north korea. are we stopping or continuing military exercises, because the defense secretary seems to be saying something slightly different than the president. >> i think that we saw trump then rebut any idea that there might be reopening in military exercises, said on twitter that
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military exercises are still on hold right now. and i think that that will be the policy until it changes. war thing about china i think basically just trying to find the reason to sort of justify the continuing trade war which doesn't seem like end any time soon. when i talked to trump administration officials they say that china has been sackss on -- have not violated the sanctions in general those sanctions are still in place. i think they are looking for a reason to explain the stalling on the diplomacy. >> brennan: thank you very much. we'll be back in a moment.
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>> brennan: later today senator john mccain will be buried at the naval academy cemetery in annapolis next to his best friend, chuck larson, following a final private funeral at the naval academy chappal. following the burial that will be fly over in the missing man formation. this will mark the end of five days of events honoring the arizona senator. here is a look back at the >> he taught me that honor and
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imperfection are always in competition. i do not cry for a perfect man. i cry for a man who had honor and always was willing to admit to imperfection. >> we ask for an added measure of thy spirit to be with john's sweet family who have sacrificed so much for so long in sharing their loving husband and father with us for these many years. ♪ was grace that -- >> my name is joe biden. i'm a democrat.
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and i love john mccain. i always thought of john as a brother. we had a hell of a lot of family >> many people might wonder what a young african american kid from minnesota and highly decorated vietnam war hero turned united states senator might have in common. i'm black, he was white. i'm young, he wasn't so young. how does this unlikely pair become friends. that's just who he is. over the several years i had the privilege of spending time with senator mccain sometimes it was visit to practices or him texting saying, you need to pick it up this sunday.>> raris rotunda fall silent at this ho
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hour. on a day like this, john would usually be bounding this wayere, visitors turning to each other asking, if that's who they think it is. but in this quiet hour we are left to ponder how his life speaks to us. this is one of the bravest souls our nation has ever produced. >> that's perhaps how we honor him best by recognizing that there are some things bigger than party or ambition or money or fame or power. but there's some things that are worth risking everything for.
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at his best, john showed us what that means. for thatn . >> none of us will ever forget how even in his parting john has bestowed on us a much needed moment of unity. and it is his faith in the possibilities of america. >> one of his books ended with the words, and i moved on. john has moved on. he will probably not want us to dwell on it but we are better for his presence among us. the world is smaller for his departure. and we will remember him as he was unwavering, undual equal. ♪ o, dny boy, o, danny
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>> brennan: that's it for us today. thanks for watching. i hope to see you next week for "face the nation," i'm margaret brennan. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
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