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america." i am reporting from washington. i'm katty kay. the violence in syria spills into neighboring states as syrian troops opened fire on respighi's -- on refugees trying to flee into turkey. north korea let's -- looks set for a nuclear test to celebrate the man who founded the country. >> what sustains it is a personality cult built on around the kim dynasty and a century of control. >> a century after the titanic set out on its doomed destiny, another ship is retracing its trip down the last details -- down to the last details. welcome to our viewers on pbs in
america and also around the world. just when you thought the situation in syria could not get worse -- today, i witnesses say that -- eyewitnesses said syrian troops fired on refugees as they were trying to leave the country. a cameraman was shot dead. the u.n.-backed peace plan to end the fighting could soon collapse. jonathan head starts our coverage. >> the violence in serious built over the border today. refugees who thought they had reached safety in turkey were either fired on or caught in the crossfire. it was the last straw for this man. they're killing us for spite. world,world -- you, yothe come and watch. are slaughtering us. -- they are slaughtering s.
you, come and help us. some have been shot or along the turkish side -- shot while on the turkish side. the inmates came in the great wave of the past week, driven here by their own syrian horror stories. kofi annan's peace plan is far from being the last great hope. it has brought suffering. in short of a diplomatic merkel over the next 24 hours, they believe they will have to -- diplomatic mircale over the next 24 hours -- diplomatic miracle over the next 24 hours, they believe they will have to fight for their freedom. there are calls for all parties to ensure that humanitarian assistance reaches all areas affected by the fighting and to
implement the daily two -hour humanitarian pause. the surge in killing that has accompanied the annan plan has appalled turkey. they have been pulling people out from what is left of their homes in this village after another bombardment. 35 people are believed to have died, including women and children. the only graeme certainty in syria is that there'll be many more such -- grim certainty in syria is that there'll be many more such victims. >> for more on the violence that has built across syria's border i am joined by the author of "the arab uprising." have long thought turkey might be the regional key to this --
we have long thought turkey might be the original key to this. the refugees are now getting shot at inside turkey. could that prompt turkey to take more action? >> i think turkey has been embarrassed by the fact that, for all of their posturing, they have not been able to deliver. you can hear real signs that they are fed up with diplomacy. they are worried about their own border. they are still caught on the basic problem, which is that they do not want to get involved militarily. they see the same problems that everybody else does about declaring a safe zone. who will protect it? or humanitarian corridors -- who will police them? they clearly want to do something, like we all do, but they are struggling just as much as anyone to figure out a way to actually doi it. >> the stronger the rhetoric coming out of prime minister -- ogan's office,
they are not doing anything. what can and will turkey actually actually do -- will turkey actually do? >> they say that erdogan's is a chip can make a difference. they're very real economic power couldogan's relationship make a difference. their very real economic power could have made a difference, but it has not. are not set -- they are not ready for a military intervention. there's the possibility that the pkk might get syrian support. they're worried about being left to hang out to dry. i expect, for all of their rhetoric, they want to stay within international consensus. they will not act unless they
have clear backing from nato and united states. >> let's talk about consensus and tamara's suppose a deadline for -- tomorrow's supposed deadline that syria has agreed to. we have heard from washington, the state department, that they do not think the cease-fire deadline will hold. do you have any greater optimism than the u.s. government? >> i do not think anyone really thought that assad would comply with the diplomatic process. what he has done so far has been coming to me, completely and surprising -- has been, to me, completely unsurprising. what the diplomacy is trying to do is to hold this non- compliance out to the world as clear evidence that the real problem lies in damascus, lies in the assad regime. >> that put pressure on russia? -- does that put pressure on
russia? will things change in moscow? >> that is a deadline that the russians themselves endorsed. it does put them in a very difficult position. it is very difficult to shame moscow into doing anything. the more that they see that the ties art -- tied are turning against assad -- that they see tides are turning against assad, harder it is for russia to stand by assad. china's interests are not the same as russia's. >> thank you for coming in. from syria to egypt, where more than one year after hosni mubarak was removed from power, the bid to succeed him is still creating tension. muslim brotherhood has warned of renewed turmoil in the country if the country's former spy
chief manages to win the top post. >> light applause -- polie applause for the muslim brotherhood's official -- polite applause for the muslim brotherhood's official presidential candidate. inevitably, journalists question a last-minute entry of the former intelligence chief. this could bring egyptians back out on the streets. >> we strongly reject the attempt to have the former regime represented in the person of suileiman -- suleiman. it is an insult to the egyptian people. >> yet mr. suleiman has supporters. the crowd turned out to greet him as he handed in his registration papers. this long-time associate of the
ousted president, hosni mubarak, has promised to restore security and stability. the currency has had death threats from the blows and brotherhood -- he claimed that he has had that threat from the muslim brotherhood -- had death threats from the muslim brotherhood. for now, the political debate has polarized along familiar lines. bbc news, cairo. >> changes happening slowly in egypt. a quick look at the news of the day. in yemen, 33 people, including nine soldiers, have been killed in a suspected al-qaeda attack on an army barracks. the military says that at least 80 al-qaeda fighters were also killed in the clash -- 18 al- qaeda fighters were also killed in a clash. jailed abdulhadi al-khawaja is still said to be seriously ill
after refusing food for more than 60 days. he and seven other leading opposition figures were sentenced to life in prison last year for anti-state crimes linked to ongoing anti- government protests. the special prosecutor investigating the shooting deaths of -- shooting death of an armed teenager trayvon martin has ruled out using a grand jury. he will decide what to charge george zimmerman with a crime -- whether to charge george zimmerman with a crime. several asian airlines are changing flight plans ahead of an expected missile launched by north korea. recent satellite images show the reclusive state is digging a new underground tunnel that appears to be in preparation of a third nuclear test. the launch coincides a pyongyang's anniversary of celebrating -- to launch coincides with pyongyang's celebration of the anniversary
of kim il sung. >> acting on cue -- every single one in a crowd of hundreds of thousands in the start of a week of celebrations. the emotion almost sounds exaggerated. north korea's two dead dictators are worshiped like gods. it people are being urged to give thanks for the way their nation has been turned into a powerful force. few outsiders would recognize north korea as powerful or prosperous. as the crowds dispersed, we were told we could not talk to any of them. instead, we were brought to this factory. it has never fired a single
worker, i was told. apparently, it is all down to the generous guidance of the two kings, -- two kims, kim il sung and kim jong il. the workers get interactive instruction in mathematics, physics, and english. this birthday celebration for kim il-sung, she says, is the biggest national event in our country. i'm going to celebrate by working even harder. this worker has labored nearly 30 years here. she says the kims, father and son, deserve the credit for everything. "while we were alive, they instructed us to provide clothes for the people. we have exceeded our annual quota in just three months."
outside, there are glimpses of a different north korea. we would like to stop and see them, but we cannot. they are hints of a less perfect world, a gray monotony, the uniformity of it all. these are reflection that it does the land of the kims -- that suggest the land of the kims is not a paradise. >> you are watching "bbc world news america." a white house welcome for brazil's president. with her country's economy booming, it is a partnership u.s. needs to keep. a team of americans has joined the pakistani army in the rescue effort as they searched for survivors of an avalanche in the himalayas. more than 120 soldiers and 11 civilians were buried on
saturday when the avalanche struck a remote military base. from islamabad, we have this update. >> the pakistan army has said it is hoping for a miracle. that is what it will take to find anyone alive under that wall of snow and ice that came crashing down on saturday morning. a mountaineering expert has told us that, in theory, could survive for two days to three days, if they have an oxygen supply and rations. a team of experts has flown in to offer assistance. they are trained in the alpine search and rescue. they could not reach the site today because of bad weather. there is a large-scale rescue operation going on. almost 300 people are involved. there are earthmovers and bulldozers. there are rescue dogs and paramedics. we understand they have not yet
managed to reach any of the bodies. they have cleared one section, an area of about 40 feet by 30 feet. this avalanche was on a massive scale. it covered about one square kilometer. it is up to 80 feet deep. the rescue operation is taking place in some of the toughest terrain on earth. base is located 15,000 feet above sea level at the edge of a glacier. the remoteness, the cold, and the harsh conditions -- all of this is making the search and rescue operation far more difficult. >> reporting from pakistan. in peru, nine miners have been trapped for five days now inside an informal copper mine. rescuers are in contact with the workers. the government has appealed to mining companies for experts to help free them. in the effort to boost u.s. exports, perhaps you countries are as critical as brazil.
economic success has made it a key market. that explains why today it is one of the main topics on the agenda as brazil's president, dilma rousseff, met with president obama at the white house. both sides might be looking for more from the partnership. >> brazil's president was not first on the obama agenda today. that honor went to the easter bunny, who was received at the white house along with thousands of children. it was, no doubt, just a quirk of scheduling, but it may have reinforced the perception that the u.s.-brazil relationship is hardly a top priority for this president. getting out of business in the oval office, he stressed the positives. >> our trade and investment is reaching record levels, which creates jobs and business opportunities in both countries. >> dilma rousseff was blunt. she said the relationship was
falling short of its potential in areas like energy, where brazil is a new oil power. she complained that monetary policy here was making brazil's exports less competitive. from the brazilian side, there is a sense that washington has not fully embraced the potential of this relationship. for example, by endorsing brazil's bid for a permanent seat on -- for a permanent seat on the u.n. security council. the emerging power is grating respect. -- is craving respect. this is how washington treats old friends -- a state dinner. here is a new friend, the indian prime minister. he got the first state dinner of the obama presidency and public support for his bid for security council seat. why is brazil treated differently? >> the obama administration is wondering is brazil arrival or
an ally. on the one hand, you have this amazing potential for huge amounts of trade and these two biggest economies in north america and south america. on the other hand, brazil has been a real force in its side as far as foreign policy, -- real thorn in its side as far as foreign policy. >> barack obama visited brazil last year, data out -- no doubt mindful that china had become a playmaker in the country's economy. by their own addition, this is a slow-ossining relationship. -- by their own admission, this is a slow-blossom in relationship. >> while brazil's economy is booming, much of the rest of the world is struggling with the less than stellar outlook. i'm joined by professor at mit, author of "white house burning." thank you are coming in.
let's look at brazil. it is a remarkable reversal of fortunes. 10 years ago, there was america, driving economic growth in the world. brazil was languishing. now we have brazil, a bric. >> we should be careful about the cycle. do not get over-excited about brazil or any one of these emerging markets. >> they want more clout. >> they have cash. they have reserves. they can potentially save europe. that would be very strange. it could well happen. >> let's talk about your book, we have it here. i want to read the subtitle. why it matters to you -- tell americans why. >> the u.s. has lost control of its fiscal house. if we get it back in order, we can be the no. 1 economic power in the world again. getting our fiscal house back in
the order at the moment seems rather elusive. >> we have to carry on with enough stimulus to promote growth and invest in employment. there are those who say that we cannot afford to do that. we have to address the deficit now. who is right? it is extraordinary that there is this argument between growth and deficit reduction and that it has not been solved. >> neither side is right, frankly. what you need is revenue, secure, robust revenue. needed left or right wants to talk about that. nobody wants the taxes to go up. they want to give you other narratives about what happened out what can happen. you need to bring revenues up. we have given away the revenue. i propose tax rates go back to the 1990's level. the 1990's were up keeper of great prosperity -- were a period of great prosperity.
nobody wants to go there politically right now. >> the way to fix the economic crisis is simple -- raise revenue, cut spending. >> politicians do not want to take action when interest rates are this low. if you can borrow at 2%, the u.s. treasury, one of the safest assets in the world, why would you take any risk? when the bond market turned against you, as it surely will, interest rates will go up rapidly -- market turns against you, as it surely will, interest rates will go up rapidly. >> we could be heading into a period where there is even more political polarization, even more stagnation in washington. we are looking at four more years of politicians not being able to fix this stuff. >> that is a very real policy -- probability. the bush tax that expire this year.
unless the president, house and senate all agree on extending the tax cuts, they will expire. that would be a potentially helpful fiscal adjustment. there is a decision to be made. even if you do not do anything, that is a decision. the reason we wrote this book is to try to persuade people to think about what does the government do, do you want these social programs in place. 40% people who use social security and medicare do not think those are government programs. we need to have a program that -- we need to be better informed. >> you look at america and europe. which is the bigger threat to the world economy? >> europe. the eurozone, in particularly. they have not solved problems. they have thrown money at them. spain, italy, portugal, even ireland -- there are real or abilities -- real or a bill -- there are real
vulnerabilities. >> thank you very much. one more economic note tonight. greece seems to have come up with a novel, yet somewhat controversial, way of raising money to battle its massive debt. the police are now available for rental, along with patrol cars and even police helicopters. a police officer can be hired for $40 to be used for security. how would you feel about retracing the journey of the titanic? if you were me, perhaps a little queasy. one century after the ship's ill-fated journey, a memorial cruz is in the same route from set -- from southampton to new york. the ms balmoral docked in cobh today. we have a correspondent on the ship. >> this was always going to be an unusual cruise, and so it has
proven to be. as the ms balmoral follows the titanic's route all the way to the sidte of the wreck. passengers are swapping titanics stories and trivia. >> kate had a camera onboard. >> in her cabin, i met sally o'dell, whose relatives were on board the titanic a century ago. her cousin was just 11 years old at the time. >> that is his camera case slung over his shoulder. >> he looks very proud. the o'dell's were only on board for the first stage of the journey. they got off in ireland. because they got off in the ireland, they and their
photographs survived, like this one taken in cobh. this is my favorite one. it gives a great idea of the size of the ship. >> lookout enormous -- look how enormous it is. >> an irish welcome as the ship arrived in the field force -- in gale-force winds. >> onboard the ms balmoral as it retraces the route of the titanic. that brings to a's show to a close. you can get updates -- today's show to a close. you can get updates on twitter. see you back here tomorrow night.
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