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i'm thuy vu. coming up, thousands of people convicted ofla marijuana d offenses in san francisco are cheering a decision by thetr dit attorney to c criminal and we'll talk with a califnia activist who attended president trump's state of the union address. he represents undocumented black immigrants. and we'll hear from lieutenant governor gavin newsom whyrs vo should back him as california's next governor. earliertoday, house republicans released a memo thatlleges the justice department and fbi abused their surveillanceer p several democrats on the committee, including congressman adam schiff, are accusing
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congressman devin nunes of manipulating the contents of the classified memo. president trump allowed the release despite objections from the justice department andfbi. this morning, he accused the two agencies of politicizing the investigative process. joining me now with more on this latest twist is congressman eric slawwell from the east way. what is your reaction to the release mo this >> it's disturbing that the republicans in the house would to protect the president. they're assertingcts not supported by the evidence to protect the presidentn this russian investigation. biey're doing it over the objection of the and in a first world democracy where neverbefore have we seen political leaders use police to attack our leaders. >> so from where you sit on the house intelligence commitee, what you do at this point?
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>> the best way we can clean up theor dions that their memo has made is for the democratic memo to be released on monday. so we'll force a vote on monday when we return andhave a committee hearing. if our memo were released, y u would sen pages of details that lay out the true timeline here, that put into focus that this investigation occurred long before the steele dossier lande. it point out that fbi deputyirector andy mccabe, that his characterization in the gop memo is just flatly wrong and mischaracterized. and that the fisa application is mischaracterized. i think the a will walk away seeing new, unseen evidence from our memo. but also the fbi's credibility will bolstered. t you already tri get that memo released last week. the republican leaders on the ommittee said no. what do you think will change that this time? >> now they have theo public answer to, and the public
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sentiment right now i believe is outrage. outrage that they would trample all over rule of law, and that they're going to want to see, as i sai the evidence at corrects the record. >> president trump was asked today, what is his reaction to d this, whe try to fire deputy attorney general rod rosenstein? and he said, you figure that one out. what do you think that means? >> prewndent trump has s a willingness clear out of his way anyone who has been a part of this investigation. you thin atividuals who no longer doj or fbi from sally yates james yocomey, and now, of cour, andy mccabe retiring this week or being forced out he has an enemy's list, and he, one by one, is removingom them this investigation. we must do all we can in congress to protect bobmueller. there's legislation from republicans and democrats to do that. and if this is not an alarm for
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us to do that when we get back, i don't know wh >> do you think he would fire rosenstein? it looks like he's set the circumstances to fire senstein. people may ask why does it matter if he fires deputy attorney general rosenstein? because he set the parameters of mueller's investigation. he approved the -- he's technically the person who would have to fire bob >> so let's just say hypothetically, rosenstein is fired, what would you do? you also sit on the house judiciary committee, which would take up impeachment for these proceedings if it re to happen? >> i and with the supp of others, would move tohe house judiciary committy to take up impeacent proceedings. i believe that would be clear obstruction justice and the house must act. >> is that an effort you would lead? >> i would work with my colleagues and the leaders of the judiciary committee anur ranking member. having -- i'm the only democrat that serves on t intelligence
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committee and the judiciaryco mmittee. i had a real look into the evidence that exists here. and i believe this would be a clear case of obstruction. but i believe our house leaders have already said that's red line he can't cross. the republ this is a case whe there was abuse of surveillance power by the fbi and thede justice artment, that carter page's constitutional rights were olated in this case. tt it possible that proper procedures and vng procedures were not followed in this case? >> i haven't seen that. the fbiw and we should look at all of their investigations to make sure civiliberties are being protected. sure civiliberties are being protected. but what it looks hike he the president is trying to go after the fbi to taint their investigation so that the public sentiment or approval of the fbi is reduced. so i more indictments come against the president or his team, the public reaction could not be as condemning as it probably likely would be.
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ie other , thuy, by the republicans referring over to the white house this classified memo, before it becamei pu they essentially gave the white house pieces of evidence in the investigation that the white house and the president they not have otherwise seen.t' t important, because they're essentially allowing them now to tailor their y, testimhe president or the around use counsel, evidence that they know -- now >> well, there's so much more to discuss this. but i can't let you go without asking you about the budget. ne deal is february 8, next thursday. democrats agreed to reopen the government after the shutdown last month th reassurance from republicans there would be good-faith negotia ons on immigration. has that happened? has been made? >> negotiations are under way. i think it's reckless for us to continue to comp two to three weeks at atime. it's not fair to the american people. we should be able to solve our
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immigration challenges, the challenges around also funding you know, health care centers in our community, and our but we shouldn't do this two to three weeks at a time. that's not fair to themerican people. 've seen student councils in elementary schools budget out further than that. >> what would you need to see happen on daca, on immigration, in order to support a long-term budget bill? >> we can adress the dreamer issue by giving certainty to the nearly 700,000am ds who already signed up under daca. if there are other sues around border security or reforming our immigration process, we should look at those.r ht now the president is proposing that we reform and fia da the tradeoff is that we end legal immigration that's exsted, like family reunification our country for over 50 years. >> that's a non-starter for you? >> it's non-starter for me. >> uld you back another
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government shutdown if you can't reach compromise? >> i'm not going to propose a shutdoto, i'm going propose we solve the issues we were sent to take care . >> congressman, always great to have you on the program. >> my pleasure. n today, presitrump delivered first state of the union address. attending that was a young, undocumented immigration activist. joseph is the communications director for undocumented immigrants, a group thaadd slow kates for undocumented black immigrants. >> thank you for having me, thuy. attend was that like to the state of the union speech? >> it was a very bittersweet experience. this was the largest delegation of undocument ed at the state o the union. but we had to listen to the vitriol being spreadll
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>> w tell us a little bit what your personal story is, because i know the mission is to getheties of immigrants such as yourself. you came here at the age of 7. ho did you get re? >> because my parents wanted me access to opportunities i otherwise wouldn't if i had remained in central america. it was one of those experieases he eldest child they knew i would be the closest one to access ititutions of higher learning, and they wanted me to get opportunities that they di. so as a result of that, they sent me to live wh my maternal grandmother in the united states. >> you're part of the advocacy group that serves undocumented black immigrants. how big is that population and how are you getting your message out? >> we have 619,000 undocumented black peopleepresented in the united states. as a result of that,oe seek
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send our message by making sure that our voicere amplifieamplif locally, statewide, and nationally. so we go about it by doing op-eds, interviews, videos that showcase the diversity for the immigrant something that we often don't talk about enough. comments thatve are made by the president and his administration about blank hole counies and he's referring to haiti and countries on thenefrican con, that's what it look for a lot of people to understand that immigration issue.lack >> what has life been like for you as an undocumented immigrant living under the trump administration? c>> chao would be an understatement. in that each day we definitty do now what's going to happen. a few weeks ago, we had the tonmp administraas well as leaders from both parties, give a press conference orhave a meeting in the midst of a press circus, and the spoke about the importance of being able to pass a clean dream act. momentslater, we heard rhetoric
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they wanted to do so at the risk of family reunification , progrand almost the elimination of diversity visas. so w don't knowhat to expect. we hear rhetoric that say clean dream act, but we hear attempts to use the 800,000 daca recipients against the remainder of the immigrant population. >> the latest proposal, he made it clear that he is willing to offer a-y r path to titizenship for daca recipients, but bare tith billions of dollars for a wall along the mexican border and tighter restrictions on legal immigration. what do you think of that? is there any part of that, that you could support in place of a clean >> it is a very problematicos pr that's being made, because for him to offer 1.8 million people, there's on1.5 milundocumented people in the united states of america. so to try to use 1.8 million or
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800,000 daca recipients against the remainder of the population is creating an us versus them mentality, which you're trying to label the domented youth as coming here at nirfault of town, but crimina their parts and setting up families to be separated from one another. becomingusceptible to deportation and elimination from being able to provide for their faes and create a sustainable lifestyle. while the pathw to citizenship is a great aspect, we're going to be addressing theseonger term implications, which the remainder of the undocumented polation is going to be less defense of themselves and that's someth g i can't getbehind. >> there are a number of people, especially conservative republicans, by offering a path amnesty and feel that's wrong. they feel it's wrong to put damers ahead the line. what do you have to say to snem >> first and tforemostre is
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no line for immigrants like myself. if there was a line, it would have been something we would have gotten in the process of. as for somebody that has been here 15 years, daca is a merit based program.o i have submit $495 every two years to rew, i have to pay taxes. i'm asking the government permission in order to rk in this country and pay taxes. that to me does not read as a handout. it's something that we worked very hard for. and not to mention ocunented people have contributed to the social, economic, and political fabric of this but it's anything but a handout. >> we'll have to leave it there. thank you for joining us. >> thank you so thuy. it's been one monthince recreational marijuana became legal for adults in lcaornia. now san francisco residents, we'll see this weeptheir slate clean.
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thousands of concrick shvi expunged going back to 19 . >> thank you >> what are you hoping to accomplish byto tically erasing about 3,000 misdemeanor marijuana convictions? >> there arehree things. number one, we know that most of the w communitiee heavily impacted by the war on drugs and the war onmarijuana, where people of color, the african-american community, poor people, and tho people generally wi the -- would be hard pressed to hire an attorney and go through the legal process to petition to have their convictions expunged or have a felony conviction reduced to a misdemeanor. we also know the impact of a criminal record and it often f government assistance, loans.
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on a felony case, you can't even vote. so we wan to ensure that we right that wrong. we also want to encourage other rosecutors the state to do the samething. so we're creating a blue print for this to occur a way that it's painless to the individual. and then finally, we want to send a national message, we're in a time where we have the national administration, the attorney general, you now, talking about marijuana being almost an existenal threat t our communities. we still have marijuana as a scheduled it's on equal par with heroin, and that's obscene. if youhi talked to school kids 30 years ago, they would laugh at this obscenity that has put marijuana at that level. when the laws not credible, it comes hypocrisy. >> some look at what you've done and say it was a crime back then. so if you committed crime back then, it should stay on the
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record, regardless of changes to the law. >> that sort of ignores the fairness of what it is right. it shouldn't have been a crime back then, and secondly, how arbitrary would it be that if you were arrested f marijuana offense, december 31st of 2017, you were a crimbal, you engaged in the same 1nduct january of 2018, you're no longer a criminal. >> you talked about this whe you talked about racial discrepancies and the way marijuana laws have worked out with the enforcement. in 2011, african-americans made up 6% of san francisco's population. they accounted for half of the city's marijuana related offenses. so with this new policy, what do you think will be the impact on that iscrepancy? what kinds of reform will it tcomplish in the long run? >> ink it's the beginning of
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redung the harmof decades old policy that's dcimated poor people, especially in african-american communities. there are many studies that tell you that drug ise in country is distributed equallya ng the racial groups. some will say that sometimes the whitemm ities, marijuana use is greater than in the african-american community. but when see who the people that were arrested, andvi ced, that went to jail and prison, it always seems to be people of color. and the african-american community has suffered the most in this process. >> i wantedyo to ask about immigration. federal immigrationwo authoriti ld allow agents to go to courthouses and make arrests. ey say they will only target convicted cri nals, gang members, and not take in family or friends or witnesses, for example, for deportation. what do you think of theti
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dire? >> it's very wrongheaded, driven by psbic beli in the new administration. i think the realityis, courts ought to be a place where witnesses and victims can come in without being fearful they may be arrested because theyutr here wit documents or someone they know may be arrested without being here not being legal. theut they would argue courthouse is a safe place to make these arrests because of the metal detectors. >> here's the problem. we've seen a d in the number of violent incidents in the chinese and latinomu cties. we now have victims of domestic violence that refuse to come to because they are afraid that they may be subject to io deport so it doesn't matter what the federal government says, their
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credibility with the immigrant community is nonexistent. i have my own doubts, and the problem is that this puts people out of >> and another immigration related issue, i.c.e. has just served 77 bay area businesses notices of inspection, demanding employment verificat n. what do yink of that move, and is this the sign of a tougher crackdown to come? >> it was very interested the bay aea gets selected for this. it seems to be somewhat vindictive, given that the area has seemed to be in line with politics that doesot seem to be what the president wants. when law enforcement engages in vindictive prosecution, nothing good comes out of i >> i there anything your office can do to counter this if a crackdown happens? >> clearly the federal government has jurisdiction.g there's nothat we can do.
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i'm not suggesting they shouldn't do the work. i just find it very odd that this regin seems to be taking o >> thank you so much for joining us. >> my thank you as jerry brown serving out his final year as governor,e' ther a vigorous campaign to replace him. the early leader in terms of fund-raising and poll numbers, is gavin newsom. his campaign has raised nearly $20 million, but he's facing criticism from his rivals over issues such as his support for single payer coverage. scott shaffer sat down with gavin newsom earlier >> lieutenant governor newsom, thanks for coming in. >> great to behere. >> you are running to succeed jerry brown. it would hard to imagine two people more different than you two in terms of style, age, demeanor. so why are you the guy to repce him? >> i've known jerry my entire
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life. there's a lot of trutho that. stylistically, step up and step in. not as passive on certain issues. the knock on me is that i was the 12th membe of the board of supervisors i was mor of san francisco. i tend to want to lead reforms, not wait for them to land on my desk. what is is an issue that you would be less passive in >> the issue of health care. in this country, 17.9% of gdp, conversation or pension conversation. can't have a convs it relates to issues of small business growth, unless you're having health caresa convon. >> high speed rail, it is in trouble. it's limping .alo it is being built, but at the moment, it could be a trai to nowhere. at what point would you abandon it? because there may not be federal or private sector money? >> i don't want to speculate.
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the k is the private sector money. also continue to advocate for more federal dollars. we're patching this together ane ing it going. you have 1600 folks working as we speak. this is under construction, and the redesign of the first phase provides preyou fi s this for t. this is not a boondoggle, unless we abandon the vision. because wefi couldn't funding. that's my commitment, to find the dollars. >> wouldt you jee connecting the valleys and say that's all we can do? >> i have confidence we'll get mind. that will be a game changer up here. so the northern part of the state is best positioned to be well served, but i really feel a sense of responsibility to southern california that's been left wanting in that respect,
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because t gettinse tunnels through and above into the sane gabrie mountains remains an open questiono an opend for a lot of the elected officials that have been critical. brown shy to say no to democrats when it comes tospending. will you say >>? that was a word i used often as mayor of san francisco. >> what would you say no to? >> you haveoalance the budget. but at the same time, i want to recognize a fundamenfact that unless we deal with income and wealth disparities and social mobility, the state is goi chance on itself. 8 million people below the poverty line. 46% at or near the poverty lineh se are stubborn facts that nex address. >> sexual has rocked sacramento.
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when this sexual harassment began to happen with harvey weinstein and it all unfolded, what questions did you have? >> it was very personal. my wife t was second person to come out impacted directly by harvey. she had the courage to come forward and also to talk to me about what in ways she hadn't in the past, which was jaw dropping. as it relating to sacramento, all those women that came forward deserve affirmation, justice, and reforms. >> would you support penalties against legislators who are found guilty of harassment or sexual assault, and should the public be paying money for these settlements? i think the settle have to bring to light. it's unfortunate we've these ch askingquestions. >> what questions would you ask? >> we are signing off ons
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settlements to women c come forward. taxpayer dollars shouldn't be used fore malfeasance and offense that is occurring by legislative leaders or members of staff. there has to be personal accountability that respect. >> one of the problems with the operations is the cash. at would you do about that? >> for the last year and a half, idea oeen promoting the a state bank, that's not going therare a lot of credit unions the are quietly accepting cannabis cash, and are hopeful that the federal government ays pat and doesn't necessarily interfere with thatt buis is not unique to california. you've got red statesend b states with medical marijuana that have the same open-ended questions. lly, and i event hope in the near term, this will
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be addressed, the federal level will remove the status and this. >> you win, you'll take office in 2019, 2020round the corner. can you say you will not run for president? >> that is not my aspiration. california will be well served by having a governor working full-time on the state's business. and quite substantively, the one redret i hear more often privately of governor brown, he had his eye off the ball and wat doing a of things, where he had a presidential lens and not a lens on california. what a contrast to what he's accomplished in the last seven years, versus being focused elsewhere in t previous seven years. we need a governor working full time. ar did i h you don't want to be president of the united states? >> with all due t,resp ex-president sounds like a great job. >> only one way
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>> looking ahead, here's a tape. u'll no. >> lieutenant you very much. >> you heard it here from gavin newsom. no for president. that does it forus find more from our conference at our website. i'm thuy vu. thank you for
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