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america."g reportom washington, i am jane o'brien. another blow for british prime minister boris johnson. his n brother resigns from government, citing differences over brexit. an island paradise turned to ruin. hurricane dorian ripped a path of destruction through the bahamas. we are in some of the worst hit areas. >> you see the devastation with all the bodies. i feel god has turned his back on the beautiful island of abaco. inne: and from humble beginnings to a towering figuren american politics, a ne book highlights the triumphs and setbacks of abraham lincoln. jane: for those watching on pbs and around the globe, welcome to "world news america." it has been a bruising week for the british prime minister, and today, anoth blow. boris johnson' brother jo, who
voted rema in the eu referendum, has resigned as a government minister and will step down as an mp. he says he has been torn between family loyalty and the national interest, but his departure e hasn't changed ime minister's position that the u.k. needs to leave the european union by october1. he said he would rather be deade in a ditchasked for a delay, and that a general election may be tharonly path fo prime min. johnson: i hate banging on about brexit. i don't want to go on about this anymore, and i d't want an election at all. i don't want an election at all. but frankly, i cannot see any other way. jane: away from westminster, the prime minister also had a chance to meet some voters and got quite and your full -- quite an earful, as the bbc's political editor laura kuenssberg reports. >> you should be in brussels negotiating! prime min. johnson: we have been negotiating. >> you are not! laura: he attrts trouble. thments after he arrived ais yorkshire high street, the prime minister taken thetask.
>> youre playing games. prime min. johnson: what people want us to do is leave the european union. >> we all know that. prime min. johnson: that's fantastic, that is what we are going to do. laura: boris johnson dides. >> he is speaking for us. hing for support in the crowd.mi prime johnson: do you think we should get out october 31? >> yes! laura:a: but just weeks into his time in office, he has been defeated in parliament and thrown even his brother quit his job as minister in government to spend less time with his family. >> it has been an honor to be mp for the governments, but i've got to move on and get to work. laura: not much more work as an mp now. jo johnson w on a completely different side of the brexit argument, but result to work for his brothlt in government, but not anymore. citing concerns over the prime minister's approach, he wrote on twitter, "in recent weeks i've been torn between family loyalty and the national interest.
it is an unresolvable tension. time for others to take on myn roles as and minister. over and out your brother has quit this titernoon, saying you are not acting in the naal interest. prime min. johnson: i want to thank jo very much for everything he has done. he has been a fantastic minister for science, universities,nd i think that we certainly haven't seen eye to eye for a longime about the u.k. a the european union. but on the huge domestic agenda he has done a fantastic job. of course i'm very sad to seess the of jo, and indeed, other people who have lost inay the last few d laura: but that was your you might be acting ruthlessly, but for some people it is reckless. prime min. johnson: what people want to see is us getting on and delivering brexit, and that is what we are going to do. it is important to get it done. laura: you are stuck, aren't
you, because parliament won't get an election yodesire.u to you are stuck. prime min. johnson: i have to say it is absolutely unbelievable that the leader of the opposition is currently refusing to have an election. i don't think ever in democratic history has a leader of the opposition refused to have an election. laura: how will you make it happen? you are stuck. prime min. johnson: what he should do is allow the people to decide.in i people want to come out on october 31. that is what they voted for. i think it quite incredible that they are being told they can't have a s. laura: how will you bring this country together when what youe ing is throwing people out of your party and tried to force people into not election many ion many people don' pt want? prime min. johnson: the only way to do it is to get brexit on on -- get brexit done on october 31 and take the country forward. laura: in this part of the wmeld they can opportunity if the election comes. >> some of these areas where we have conservative presence now,
they were strong, strong leave areas. laura: wakefield is labor right now, but the leader of the tories othe council reckons that the pm's ruthless approach might work. >> people want to see a decisive prime minister. in yorkshire, they like a dirt approach. >> please leave my town. prime min. johnson: i will very soon. laura: labor mps are keeping him dangling. >> we are for a general election. i want to get rid of this government as soon as possible because i'm really worried about what they are doing to the future of our economy and the futuref our country. but it is about timing, and our prime objective -- we put in our last manifesto that we want to prevent a no-deal brexit because of the damage it could do to the country. laura: on monday the prime minister will try again to get parliament to back anlection. the plain fact is he does not have it in his power to get to thinllot box alone. laura kuenssberg, bbc news, wesh yorke. jane: for more on the political
turmoil in the u.k., i spoke earlier with a former london correspondent for "the new york times." by any normal measure this has been a dreadful week for the prime minister. you have known him for many, many years how do you think he feels this is going, and going to be enough to turn this around? >> you know,t has been easy to get insi his head up until now. i cannot imagine what he is going through now. i can't imagine he could have anticipated the incredible push back he has gone on so many fronts in the last few days. when we heard those clips that he was sick of bangingout brexit, that is the only thing he has been banging on about the la two years. he is very disingenuous.ve i o say, all these years i have known him, i first knew him when he was editor of "the spectator" and an mp, en he was mp and mayor of london. w always the same, very funny, articulate, blustery, disheveled, shambolic.
really smart, but he has never focused on anything. he has never been a details person. he has never really followed through in any serious way on the job. he has only been in this job are -- a really short time and he -- it feels like he is falling apart to some extent. jane: when he says he wod b rathdead in a ditch than lay brexit, is that what his supporters want to hear right now? sarah: the interesting thing is that there is a range of supporters. there is the hard-brexit brexit party. i think one of the things that is motivating him is a real worry about the support they are gaining around the count. a lot of people in the conservative party would like to lee eope thabut they would like to leave in a more orderly way. those are the people being purged from the party.
he is appealing to the hard right of his party. that is the direction it seems a be going in right now. jane: do you thieneral election given the divisions within the country and his own party?is sarah: io hard to know. the reckless thing that happenea this brexit referendum in the first place. it was so ill-conceived, carried out with so little thought. now they are in this pickle where a small minority of people voted to leave europe.e. they spent the last few years trying to find a plan. they have not been able to find a plan. the people who support brexit quite rightly say the country voted to leave, we are now supposed to leave. the people who are saying let's have a second referendum are being -- the response to that ib juause you don't like a result of something doesn't mean you get to keep voting until the result changes. hthe general election woue -- i don't see how they get out
of this, i really don't.av jane: great toyou with us. thank you very much indeed for sarah: thank you s. jane: of course we will continue to cover all the twists and turns of the state -- of brexit, as well as the legislati to delay brexit through the house of lords. hurricane dorian is ving its powerful winds and rain.ast it has caused catastrophic damage in the bahamas, where the death toll stands at 23 and is expected to rise.t the wovastation and lossth of life is on the abaco islands, where it is estimated at least 70,000 people require aid. from there, aleem maqbool sent this report. aleem: this was one of the most popular resorts on these islands, torn apart by the brute strength of the storm. tourists who tried to weather it has been left shellshock. but these werehe sturdiest buildings in a place that wasn't
even the worst hit. elsewhere, the pictures even more desolate. drive through marsh haa little down the road, and there is not a building in sight that stained considerable damage. this is where hurricane dorian made landfall, and those record-breaking wind speeds and ocean surges have left behind a surreal landscape of boats and vehicles and rooftops and kitchen appliances swirled in the air and flung across the land.er and ne here has a story of the terrors of dorian. >> the wind just had us fearful of our life. as one roof bl off, we went to another house and thatlew off. there were vehicles blowing in ite background. as just horrific. to see the devastation with all the bodies around, i feel th god has turned his back on the beautiful island of abaco.
aleem: many ofhe dead have now been taken away, but in the heat remains the unmistakable sme of death that suggests there are many more bodies to be found. for those who survived, the situation is desperate. until a few days ago, many hundreds had lived in a huge shantytown here. there are few signs of the structures they lived in >> no house, no food. no water. no life, for me,oo. aleem: aid is arting to get some places, but the needs are massive and the hurricane turned upside down the lives of so many. aleem maqbool, bbc news, on the abaco islands of the bahamas. jane: grim situation ined. today -- other news today.ews
tehran has stoppding by two commitments in tly in responsections reinstated by the u.s. under -- after the trump administration abandoned the deal. the taliban say they were behind a suicide bomb attack which has killed at least 10 peoe, including two foreign soldiers, in the afghan capital, kabul. the explosion took place in a foreign embassies governmentto buildings. the latest attack follows peace talks between the talien d the u.s. hong kong leader carrie lam says the chinese government understands and supports the withdrf the controversial extradition bill. it sparked months of protests command critics said it was evidence of china's tightening control. you are watching "bbc world nees a." still to come on tonight's
program, alaska's tog us fores-t onga as forest-- tongass forest is known for its pristine s auty. now a battlederway on whether to develop the region. jane: one of the biggest conspiracy theories in the tech world is that oumarphones may be listening to us for the sum believe we are recorded by deviceto target adverts. one phone company has carried out an experiment. >> within 5, 10 minutesthere was an reporter: it seems everyone has a story like this, strange s that make us asked if our phones and apps are listening to our conversations. for years the big tech compathes have denie is happening. >> does facebook use audio from mobile deviceso enrich personal information from users? >> no. reporter: but now as everee
security commias carried out the study to look into it. mobile secity experts took four phones, two identical samsung androids and two identical iphones. they kept tin silence. othe other two were played a sees of pet food adverts over three days. there is no technical evidence of listening. look at the data ud when voice assistants like siri and google e activated. compare that to the tiny amounts idle.ta used when the apps the results will not surprise those wh study phone security. they made calm secity there is -- calm conspiracy theorists. >> we can predict what you are inrested in based on your past behavior. reporter: there are
well-documented examples of dodgy apps that listen to conversations as well as government spy tools used to snoop on high-level target this points to a perps more troubling truth -- the big tech company's probably aren't listening to us because they don't need to. ee jane: all thiswe have been showing u the effects of changing climate on greenland. tonight we turn our focus to alaska, ere there are fears the tongass national forest could be severely damaged if environmental protections are removed. many wanton restricthat prevent roads being built lifted to make way for development in isolat but as sophie long reports, oampaigners say any chge the rules would place the current habitat in danger. sophie: the tongass forest spans
nearly 17 million acres, an area virginia.athe whole of west tightly packed spruce and hemlock trees scrape the sky and give way only to rivers and the sea. the giant leaves of the undergrowtjust a tiny part of this ecosystem, which has remainednchanged for thousands of years. and those who share this land with the wildlife that thrives here are desperate to keep it that way. >> it is just beautiful fields of beech asparagus and beech greens we could harvest. sophie: this activist shows me some of the most beautiful parts of the forest by boat. we passed seals and whales, families of nesting bald eagles. she says if you open the forest to roads, you open ito major destruction. >> we know tho roads are going on into the forest, so they could cut our trees down through clear-cut. the loggg industry wants them.
in order to get to them, it's only the logging industry that has needed roads into the forest no other industry has. sophie: and she has seen what that can do. >> these trees that have dropped did dropped.o be why drop them and leave them? i don't know, possibly '90s. sophieoh, really? is has been here for years like this. >>es, this shows how destructive it is. it doesn't go that fast. millions.almon spawn here in the they mature in the ocean, sustaining one of southeast alaska's biggest industries. disrupting tir habitat would make life even harder forif fishermen here already struggling to deal with chging ocean conditions. in>> we have this amazinct ecosystem,omething that
tourists come from all over to see. it is a multimillion dollars business in southeast alaskath accounts for 20% of our economy. we have fishing, another 20% of our economy. these things rely on intact if viewscapes and salmon habitat. my fear is that we end up fading and extractive resource that is a one-sh something that if we take care of it and we do it right can serve us for many generations. sophie: at a rally in the state capital, juneau, native alaskans and environmental campaigners are trying to make their voices heard. n they say their senator ie u.s. capitol isn't listening, that she is dancing to the beat of a diffent drum. >> i was born ti the tongass al forest. i grew up in communities in the tongass.
i think i am pretty in tune with those who know the tongass andey know that ongass as a national forest should be managed for multiple use. i think i do a prett job of listening to the voic of alaskans who are asking for a public lands.of access to our bphie: and there are manyk in the tongass who agree, r ople who work in the logging industry, the pompanies, and miners. they want to be able to develop their businesses like people in the rest of the united states can. >> it is totally unfair in that we cannot build a road through a little hydro site and get it in a cost-effective and reasonable, rather than wait for a heavy lift helicopter and go through all of that and the cost of the delay. they have got them everywhere else in the world. it is not going to hurt a thing. phie: but these trees also
store massive amounts of carbon, more than any other national woodland across the united states. division here runs as deep as the e rest. are all these trees more valuable standing, or should some give way to development? sophie long, bbc news, the tongass forest jane: you can certainly see how such a beautiful place would igte such passions. he is one of america's great political giants, but how did abraham lincoln go from illinois politician to the greatpa emanr? the journey involved more setbacks than you may think. the years from 1856 to 1860 were key, and they are the focus ofok the new "all the powers of earth." it follows mr. lincoln out of the prairie into the presidency. it outlines his dramatic time on the campaign trail to eventually becoming the commander-in-chief and signing the emancipation proclamation. time, i spoke to author sidney
blumenthal. this is such a huge commitment and you have bn working on it for years. what was it about lincoln that e pealed to you? a lot of books hen written. sidney: it is said that there is nothing new to be said about lincoln.e i beli that there s, and that was his political life.ok i very deep dive and i'm still diving into a very granular look at lincoln's political life, which gets you to his steel spine and thek bedr his principles as well. jane: has your perception of lincoln changed as a result of this? sidney: my perception of lincoln constantly changes t more time i spend with him. company. with, he is very good he is very unusual. you get close to him, but he always remains distant, as his intimates always described him. watching him develop from a poverty-stricken, oppressed boy in the poorest of families to become probably our greatest
president is an extraordinary experience for me to live through. jane: you don't often think about all the setbacks hfaced because he is such a towering political figure. how did he bend circumstance to his advantage? sidney: he came from cobplete urity. he had been defeated time and again. and yet on his own, through his own skill, talent,ntelligence, med accumulated experience, creates the insts that lead to his rise to power. he creates a political party in a period of complete chaos. he gets himself elected president and finds hiin the greatest crisis in the country. he has to crte an army and find his way through the gravest and most vicious turmoil we have experienced. jane: he saved the uon then, t could he unite the country now?
sidney: someone needs to look at lincoln and learn the lessons of lincoln, a they are that in a period of party chaos, there has to be a common platform to bring together disparate elements. that is the stage we are in. lincoln dealt with demagogues, the worst demagogues of his time. dealt with attacks on democracy. and he dealt with impatience. he was accused of being president, of being too slow on emancipation. but lincoln always said he wanted to step on solid ground so he never had to retreat and he could always stand there. he knew wheno step forward and when not to step forward, when it was impolitic and the there are infinite political lessons and lessons about e moral stake in politics as well
from linln and lessons about hoto articulate an argumen one of the things i think politicians today need to learn is howo make the argument about what is happening, and what the stakes are. and in the larger sense and most immediate sense, and lincoln spent a good deal of time working on that all own. ja: sidney blumenthal, thankve yo much for joining me. dney: thank you. jane: always something new to learn. of course you can find more of ne, all the day' on our website, including the lateson the brexit debate. and to see what we are working on at any time, do check us out on twitter. i'm jane o'brien. thanks for watching "bbc world news america." announcer: fundingor this presentation is made possible by... the freeman foundation; by judy and peter blum-kovler foundation,
captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: goodning. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: dorian's deadly journey north. with rescue efforts undhaway in the bas, residents of the carolinas evacuate under threat of rising waters. then, payi for promises. president trump takes money from over 125 militaryovct proto deliver on his campaign pledge of building a border ll. plus, the amazon under attack. in our final dispatch frombr il, the growing risks to rainforest biodiversin , and to liferth. if we start losing species, it's like removing a card from thhouse of cards. eventually, there wilbe