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intrepid. mark kelly is with us, people are outside on the streets in new york city watching this, this is where it makes it tough to be in a windowless studio, we don't get to see it for ourselves right now but let's talk about what this really means for people to have the opportunity once it gets to the intrepid to be able to see a shuttle like the enterprise up close. >> yeah, good morning, thomas. i'm down here in miami today, wish i was in new york. but for the people that will have the opportunity to see endeavour, atlantis, discovery, enterprise, a special thing to see what american engineering and ingenuity can do.
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enterprise is different, it was used for tests, it is incredible for people to have the things up close. >> i want to give everybody a little back story on enterprise, rolled out in 1976, first built, never flew in space, and marks a you said, it was used for the high altitude test flights. as a gen-xer, what do you think it means to kids that the shuttle program is disbanded but having the opportunity to see the shuttles for thens, to continue our american fascination with space? >> after the columbia accident in 2003, nasa and the administration made a decision to retire the space shuttle. space shuttles were designed to fly 100 flights each. they didn't do that. they weren't assigned to fly 30 years. we made the decision to move on with a different program, the program we currently have is called commercial crew, so we have the smaller companies,
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companies like space x in hawthorne, california to get people in orbit again. probably take about five or six years before we're able to do that. but we will be flying people in space again, and the space shuttles will go around the country, we'll have one in new york, one in d.c., one in florida, one in los angeles, people will be able to see them up close and it's really going to be great additions to all those museums. >> a beautiful day in new york, on the left for all the viewers, you're looking at kennedy, where the shuttle is going to be arriving shortly here. coming up within the half hour or so. want to show you the map, i love maps, geography, i like for everybody to know how the shuttle is flying to day. peek at this. the shuttle is starting at the bottom of your screen right there, flying straight up the hudson, does a loop back around, and then goes over in new jersey, which is to the left of your screen and flies back over new york city once again. basically those people on the
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west side of new york and along the hudson are getting a double dose of the beautiful spectacle of seeing the shuttle come to new york city. but all over the metro area, people are outside getting an opportunity to see this on what really is a beautiful day here in new york city. again, this departed from dulles around 9:30 this morning, roughly little over an hour travel route and concern of weather and conditions on the way up here, really not much to take into consideration this morning, they were thinking there may have to be modifications based on that but looks like they are sticking to the flight path they intended. we're giving you a shot of the intrepid, the u.s. s. in prepare t he -- intrepid in midtown, a beautiful place, fascinating place to visit. mark, the intrepid gets 1.3 million visitors a year. what do you think the tourists and families will be doing this summer in july when it will be unveiled there. what do you think it will do to the explosion of visit tors for
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the intrepid this summer? >> when enterprise was at the air and space museum at the smithsonian, a strong attraction to get really up close when it was on display in washington, you could go up and touch it. and you can't do that when with a spacecraft that is at the kennedy space center that is operational. this is pretty exciting stuff for new york city, i'm looking forward to seeing it there, also looking forward to seeing endeavour fly off to california in the fall, and i hope to be there for that. since i was -- i had the opportunity to be on the last flight of endeavour. >> when we talk about enterprise and coming to the new home in the big apple, the plan is to separate it from the 747, this modified 747, that is used for transport of shuttle travel, it will be separated and then it will make its way up amazingly on a barge this coming june, will travel up the hudson on the hudson to the intrepid and be on
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display ready for visitors by july. if you're just joining us this morning, we're watching as the enterprise makes its way in the metro here in new york city, this flight took off this morning, from dulles airport roughly after 9:30 this morning, as you see the shuttle is piggy backed up north on a modified 747, and final destination will ultimately be the intrepid sea, air and space museum on pier 86 in midtown. fascinating how to think the next generation will consider space travel. as you point out, the future of space travel is changing a lot, and in your estimation, how do you see you being a part of it or being an influence of it as the other astronauts, because there are only so many of you that make it to that level, and the other american astronauts of moving the space generation in the next form of it? >> well, i left nasa last
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summer, after having the opportunity to fly on the space shuttle four times, and i moved on to other things, and like many astronauts that have come before me, i think we're all strong advocates of having a vibrant, effective human space flight program. we still have one, we have crews on the international space station right now. unfortunately, they have to get up there on a russian soyuz, that will change in the next five or six years, we will have u.s. spacecraft flying people off the planet we're excited about that. >> you are an advocate, i didn't mean to suggest you're part of future planning of what is taking place with nasa right now, i'm sure you want to stay within the nasa family, and certainly as you say, be an advocate for what this country does, but we were such leaders in space travel, how do you think the international community, as you bring up the soyuz and the fact we travel
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with the russians right now, how do you think the international community will embrace space travel going forward? >> depends on the country, we have partners in europe, japanese partner, canadians, and russians all partners with the international space station, i think the big programs, if we're going to go on one day and go back to the moon or mars with humans, we'll do that probably as an international effort. we're the leading partner with the space station program. we've had the space station up in orbit for over 10 years now and will continue to operate through 2020, so we do have a strong space flight program what we need to do is get a launch capability back for people and we have companies like space x that has launched this spacecraft called dragon that successfully orbited the earth and landed in the pacific ocean, if there was a person on board,
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they would have survived, they are on their way to getting the capability back. >> you left nasa after the final shuttle command a while back. how much do you miss it? >> i do miss it. nasa is a great place to work. it was the right time for me to leave. i will always miss having the opportunity to fly in space. it is an incredible experience to be blasted off the planet in a rocket ship and stay in space two weeks and fly the shuttle home as a glider is something i will never forget. >> again if you're joining us, talking with captain mark kelly, former astronaut with nasa, talking about the arrival of the enterprise here in new york. you sigh it right there. two different shots of the shuttle being brought to new york city. will be displayed on the intrepid, sea, air and space museum in new york city.
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flight took off from dulles at 9:30. look at this beautiful day here in and around the new york metro area for people in the city, to go out and watch and greet enterprise as it comes to new york. mark, stick around we'll take a quick break, we will be right back after this. [ male announcer ] if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] you may be an allergy muddler. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. love the air. [ sneezes ]
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. welcome back, we continue to follow the travel plans of the enterprise right there. you're watching the shuttle enterprise being brought to new york on a piggy-back style on a modified 747. flying over the new york metro area right now. it took off from dulles earlier this morning and now is doing some victory laps around new york metro area before it lands at kennedy and will be on display coming up this summer at intrepid sea, air and space
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museum at pier 86 in midtown. astronaut captain mark kelly, former commander joining us this morning to walk us through all this. mark i have interesting facts about enterprise i want to get out there to everybody. people recognize the name enterprise, this craft was named after the fictional star shift enterprise from "star trek" in the 196 0s. this is not the first time it has flown around new york city. didn't land but you saw this in the 1980s, if i heard you correctly? >> yeah, i did. i can't remember when it was in the 80s, but i remember being at school at u.s. merchant marine academy and not expecting it, seeing space shuttle fly by on top of the 747. it was an amazing sight. you mentioned the name enterprise, that was not the original planned name of the vehicle. the vehicle was completed in 1976 at the bicentennial, the
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original plan was to name it constitution, and there was a lot of people out there that were fans of star trek that wanted to see it named enterprise and president ford made the decision to change the name. >> trekkies have a lot of power, mark. >> apparently they do. >> explain to all of us so you saw this in the note in front of me, passing over the big apple on the way back from the paris air show, june 10th, 1983. what were your dreams and your goals about being an astronaut? >> well, at that point i was planning ongoing in the navy to be a navy pilot, with the hope that maybe i could become a navy test pilot and one day have a chance to become an astronaut. so i was working toward that goal and i had a plan, not sure i would achieve it, but i decided to make a run at it and work hard. >> you worked really hard and
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became a shuttle commander, what do you think fate played in all this, you having the opportunity to see the enter surprise fly by back in the early 1980s? >> yeah, that was a big surprise, and you say this is the final resting place for enterprise but we thought that with the smithsonian, too, you never know, maybe we'll be sitting out some dago flying by again. >> there was a lot of debate over where, which places around the country would be allowed and would be granted the opportunity to have one of the shuttles, and there was a lot of debate whether or not new york would be getting one and deemed the enterprise would be coming here, it is a major deal, major coup for the intrepid to have the enterprise there and being able to share that with everybody, tourists that come to new york city not just from the states and families but all over the world coming up this summer when it will be on display by july. more interesting facts about the shuttle, weighs more than
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150,000 pounds, the pilot that is flying the boeing, the modified 747, which is carrying it up here piggy-back style is a pilot named bill rickey, nasa aircraft operator, who has been based out of houston. mark, do you know bill? >> yeah, i do. he's one of our research pilots at johnson space center who flies the 747 but t-38 training airplane, probably flies another plane we have there. and these guys are the ones that ferry the shuttle around the country, sometimes will land the space shuttle at the edwards air force base and we have to get it back to the kennedy space center, this is the same way we get it back on the top of the 747. >> for this week's flight, the enterprise is saying flies without a crew because the cockpit was stripped of instruments long ago. so has there been opportunity for crews to travel on board inside the shuttles when they are being piggy backed like this?
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>> so no, only in enterprise has there been a crew that have flown in the space shuttle when it was on top of the 747. there were some active test flights where it stayed connected to the airplane, i think they did three of those, this was in the late 1970s, and then five flights where space shuttle enterprise was released from the top of the 747 and those were the approach and landing tests, landed at the runway at edwards air force base. when the shuttle is ferried, there is no crew in the orbiter, only the 747 crew on board ferrying the space shuttle. >> mark, remind us why the enterprise is the granddaddy of the columbia, challenger, discovery, endeavour, atlantis, of the shuttle program. >> well, it was the first one to roll off the row duck shun line and planned to be a test vehicle. so it was the vehicle that was used with the vibration testing,
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and then it was the vehicle to see how well the space shuttle flies in the atmosphere, how well it flies on top of the 747. we needed to prove quo do that. was also the vehicle that was first attached to solid rocket boosters and external tank and taken to the launch pad. it has no engines, no orbital maneuvering system enengines. after the challenger, there was a thought to take enterprise and configure it for space flight but instead we took the spare parts from the construction of discovery, and built endeavour, that seemed to be the easier thing to do and made most sense. >> we continue to watch right now live as the enterprise is flying around the new york city metro area, about to land here shortly at jfk, we'll take a quick break and be back right after this.
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>> welcome back to our continuing coverage this morning of welcoming the shuttle enterprise. you are looking at it land live after circling around new york city. a beautiful day, in and around manhattan today to welcome the enterprise to town. it left dulles piggy back style this morning around 9:30 a.m., traveling up the eastern seaboard coming to new york city. made this lovely flight throughout town giving specta r spectators an opportunity around new york to check it out for
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themselves firsthand. flew up the hudson to the t tapanzee bridge, it will be at the sea air and space museum at pier 86 in midtown, that will be its home. there it is the shuttle enterprise. captain mark kelly, former astronaut with nasa has been joining me for our coverage. it is oon amazing thing when you see it up close, mark, to see this modified 747 and the fact it carries the shuttle on top, and doesn't look like it's attached by much especially from this distance but it really is an amazing thing to see. >> yeah, i think it's attached by the same attach points as the shuttle is attached to the external tank when it's getting -- at the launch pad. those are robust, they can handle a lot of stress. but it is amazing that you can
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strap a strays crapacecraft to airplane and flies pretty well. >> it weighs 150,000 pounds and looks so dainty on top. this is just landing at jfk, and there are about 1500 spectators on site there to welcome the enterprise to town. this has been flown the pilot of the boeing that flew enterprise up here is bill rickey, and they have safely arrived at jfk. to a roaring crowd on site. the great thing is the fact they had over an hour here in and around the new york city metro area where people got to come out on the streets and along the west side highway, along the bridge, the high line downtown, toward the meat packing district, people snapping shots, taking pictures, there were lots of ferries, the cruise lines that travel up and down the hudson, taking people out for tours today knowing they would time things just right, to be
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able to get to see the enterprise making that double lap up and back again, and in through new jersey briefly and back over the city to be able to go to jfk, located in queens in and around just outside the metro area here in the city. mark, when we talk about the delicate process, have you ever witnessed that before, of the removal of how they do the separation process between one of the shuttles and the 747 that carries it? >> yeah, i have at the kennedy space center in florida when we had a vehicle that has come back from edwards air force base after landing there, there is an elaborate crane system on a big cement pad, and the combination 747 and or bbitter rolls under that. the airplane moves out of the way, they set it down, put the landing gear down and set the
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vehicle down on the pavement and tow it where it needs to go. this case to a barge you wouldn't want to take the space shuttle through the streets of new york city. >> could you imagine? >> it would be really difficult to get it to the intrepid taking it through the streets. >> the great thing is with the intrepid being over there on the hudson, pier 86, make it another spectacle for people to watch as you say, as the enterprise will be floated on that barge and arrive at the intrepid in june. the plan is for it to arrive there roughly in june, no specific date as of yet but have it ready for people who are visiting the intrepid by july. it's a beautiful place to visit if you're coming to new york city you have another reason to go check it out this summer once the enterprise gets there and gets there in july. we'll have to work on specific dates for you but it will be there for the tourists that are
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coming to new york city this summer. mark, when we talk about the other plans, the other geographical locations of the other shuttles right now, you said you do have plans to go visit them later this year? >> well, i hope when endeavour is the last one that needs to be moved. and it is still getting ready at kennedy space center, but will go to the california science center, in los angeles, and i'm hoping if my schedule allows, that i will have the opportunity to be there when it arrives and in that case, they have to bring it through the streets, and the clearance from what i understand from the mayor of l.a. was telling me on some of those streets the clearance of inches on either side of the wings, so it will be a slow trip through a few miles of l.a. streets to get it to its final home. >> mark, remind everybody about your special connection to endeavour. >> well, my first flight was on endeavour in 2001 i was the commander of endeavour on the final flight. we landed on june 1st of last
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year, and now it will head off to a museum and hopefully millions of people will see it each year. >> i think for certain millions of people will be coming out to see it from here on out. because it's an incredible opportunity for so many people. i remember i worked in local news in florida a long time ago i got to witness one of the liftoffs, the launch, which was absolutely amazing. really leaves indelible marks in your memory when you have the opportunity to see up close something to do with the american space program. >> yeah, it does. i wish every american had the opportunity to see the space shuttle lift off, off the pad at the kennedy space center and rocket in space. it's really, for me just watching as the 747 taxied up, i don't know if you noticed there was an american flag being flown out of the cockpit of the 747. this is truly something that
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only our country is ever able to do successfully, to fly reusable spacecraft in space, multiple times and it says something for ame american in zbfgenuity. we're in a lull with the ability to get people off the planet. that will change, we have smart people working on it. i'm optimistic about the future. >> i want to remine everybody as we look at the enterprise and talk about combined travel of columbia, challenger, discovery, endeavour, atlantis, the shuttle miles that have been flown, it's mind-blowing to think the travel that has been accumulated, 542,398,868. the total earth orbits. 21,152. you talk about the fact this was the first world's first reusable spacecraft, to carry humans in
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orbit. while they knew they wanted to make it to be reusable, as you point out, it wasn't to be maybe used as much as they were. >> well the original plan was each vehicle would fly 100 flights. and discovery has flown the most flights and i think it's upwards of 40. but it wasn't designed to last for 30 years. we have been flying the shuttles for 30 years. ism wit was time, part of me is sad to see it going. i loved the vehicle if i could do it every year i would. i think the risk was going up as the vehicles aged, this is probably the right time to move to a different system. >> where do you think we'll be this country's space program 20 years from now? >> i have no idea. i think we always have the space program that i think we deserve, that people are supportive of. if there was a strong public
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support for more money for nasa, and maybe different missions, maybe going to asteroid or mars or the moon or sending people to mars, that is what we would have. so if we could get the public interest up and more engagement i think we could -- we could figure anything out. it's a matter of nasa having the resources to do it. i don't know to answer your question i'm not sure where we will be in 20 years, i hope we'll send the first person to walk on the planet mars by then. >> looking at where we've come, where we've come from and where we're going, and seeing the enthusiasm of the people we had a broader shot a second alg showing how many people are on the tarmac there to welcome the enterprise to town, everybody taking pictures and talking about this, but for people of the younger generation, they are just coming up, mark, that aren't going to be gathered around their tv sets, taking time at school, anymore, to gather around with students and
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classmates to watch the launch or the safe return of one of our shuttles in this country, how do you think that your goal of hoping the country gathers that support again and the resours that we need to continue thriving in terms of an american space program will happen if we don't have those type of moments, those events where we gather together around the tv set as a country? >> well there is a lot of distractions. i don't know how many channels are there are on cable tv now. with the internet and all different kind of media, there is distractions from it. when apollo flew, there were six tv channels. if we do exciting things, if we sends a we launch americans in new spacecraft, that will be a time people will pay attention or if we send people to asteroid or back to the moon, certainly if we send somebody to mars, there will be a lot of interest and support for what we're
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doing. it's a matter of getting the public interest so we can have the programs. >> mark, real quickly, i need to ask you how your wife, gabby giffords is doing. >> gabby is doing really well. she is in therapy most days. she is back in houston right now, we're hoping to get back to tucson more often, but she is keeping busy, working hard, in a great mood. >> captain mark kelly former nasa astronauts. we don't get to talk to astronauts enough on this program. thank you for joining us and send our best to your wife. for complete and full recovery. wish you the best, thank you. >> i'll tell her thomas, thanks for inviting me on the program. absolutely, our pleasure to have you here. that will wrap-up that coverage of the safe arrival of enterprise at jfk, we'll shift gears and get in politic and talk about what is taking place in washington, d.c.
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the violence against women's act is now headed for the house. the 18-year-old law pours resources in helping victims of domestic violence. the senate voted to reauthorize it yesterday by a vote of 68-# 1. according to the hill, all of the no votes came from republican men. the legislation faces a rockier road when it goes before the house. republicans in the house have offered up rival legislation. joining me for this week's sound off is georgetown university law student sandra fluke. we know her name is synonomous with the phrase "war on women" since february. the senate vote on the violence against women's act that we talked about, does have the majority of the no votes coming from republican men. what is your reaction to the continuing use of women's rights women's issues as the political hot potato or football that keeps going back and forth? >> well i think it's really unfortunate. the last time the violence against women act was reauthorized a few years ago it had passed the senate
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unanimously, but this time there were 31 male senators who thought in a time when we have 12 million victims of intimate partner and sexual violence a year it's appropriate to vote against a bill trying to address that epidemic of violence. that seems to be clearly the wrong choice. >> there is this case i want to get you on the record on talking about of an indiana catholic school teacher fired after receiving fertility treatments it was against what the catholic church does teach. this country was founded on freedom of religion, also freedom from religion, what do you think as you know all too well, being at a georgetown law school, a catholic university and going up against the catholic institution the way that you did, what do you think about the way that catholic women are dealt with in this country currently with the
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church? >> well, i'll sorry i'm not familiar with the particular case so i don't want to comment on that. i would say generally i think women need to have access to comprehensive quality health care, regardless where they work or go to school. and that should always be true regardless of the circumstances. >> what do you think about the catholic leaders dictating to women about certain things that are inalienable rights to their own medical health? >> i'm not going to get into how the church makes their choices. but i think it's important to remember that the -- there are many catholic women who have different views from what the catholic hierarchy is, they should be making their voices heard and making sure they are represented within their faith community. >> i want to talk to you about something you have been invited to the white house correspondents dinner this weekend. just a short time ago a lot of people didn't even know your name now your name is on the tip of everybody's tongue.
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going in to what might be considered a lion's den for you, what is your comfort level at attending an event where people have talked about you in negative way, debated your role as a woman in a national figure within the conversation itself and finds you to be a threat? how comfortable are you going to that dinner? >> i'm excited. i think it will be fun to go to the dirn i'll get to meet people and hear from the performer and things i'm excited. i'm not worried who i'll meet there or anything like that. i feel comfortable with everything that i've said and what i've stood for in the public. and i understand that there may be people who disagree with me as long as we keep them to policy points that's fine with me. >> in your private life, there is some exciting news to talk about, congratulate you, your recent engagement. you were back in the headlines when a fox news analyst kind of condemned a statement on twitter about your recent engagement.
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how are you trying to make sure you keep this as positive and kind of out of the politics as you like to say, as much as you can? because it's really kind of a cheap shot. >> yeah, it was unfortunate, it was a homophobic statement but didn't bother me so much personally as it bothered me that that would be said in that homophobic way. i try to shut down the twitter, close the computer and spend time with my fiance and we focus on the positive private aspects of this for us. congratulations to you, nice to have you here and congratulations to both you and your fiance. >> thank you. >> i'll see you this weekend. sandra fluke, thanks so much. our traditional sound off guest couldn't be here with us today. you can catch melissa on her show this weekend. saturdays and sundays, at 10:00 a.m. right here on msnbc. new allegations this morning in the growing secret service scandal that enraged lawmakers on both sides of the political
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aisle. the agency is now investigating claims that agents hired strippers and prostitutes in el salvador before the president's trip last year. i'm joined by elijah cummings, good to have you here. getting a new report the secret service is looking into the behavior of its personnel traveling in '09 with former president clinton, alleging partying that happened at a strip club during clinton's trip to buenos aires and secret service looking into the allegations that agents and white house staffers partied at a club known for sexually charged atmosphere. prior to a clinton trip to russia in 2000. this is your first time hearing these new facts coming out, new allegations coming out. i wanted your reaction to that. it seems as if the more is discussed the more comes to light. >> well, i think first of all good to be with you. i think that you're going to
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have this, my conversation with director sullivan, he and i agreed you're probably going have all kind of rumors coming forward. he made it clear he will hunt down as much information as possible with regard to each one of these allegations, and look into it. and where appropriate, take action. but again, i think we have to keep in mind we have some probably disgruntled employees and friends of disgruntled employees who are perhaps getting on the phone and making phone calls giving tips, but again, i have full confidence the director will look in these things and address them appropriately as i think he has done so far, i think he has done a very good job so far i'm sure he'll continue to do that. >> so if the allegations prove to be true, what do you think it means for the future of the secret service and the way government officials oversee their conduct?
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obviously, a culture that developed like this didn't happen overnight, so changes to get it back on track won't happen overnight, either. >> i don't think, first of all i think we have to wait and see how much of this is true. but assuming some of it is true i think the director has taken very strong steps. he told chairman issen yesterday from now on on these trips, he will make sure that a member of his professional responsibility team goes with the agents. and that they are going to do and ethics briefing and in-country briefing at the beginning of each one of those trips to make sure the agents know what they can and can't do. he made it clear, no one should bring any person to their room, and to do the kind of things that these agents did in columbia. so i think -- he's also by the way on the third and fourth,
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going to have 100 top agents go be part of an ethics symposium on how to conduct yourself johns hopkins university, which is in my district. i think he's taken as much action as he can. he made it he will look at all the allegations, try to address them and i think, i really believe we're going to come out with a better secret service than we had even before these incidents happened. >> i know we're hitting you cold with new allegations and reports so i appreciate your candor and reaction to this. elijah cummings, thank you. >> good to be with you. facebook status that got millions of people talking and questioning whether a mom cyber punishment was a little cruel and unusual. that mom joins me live, next. people with a machine.
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welcome back, everybody. what is considered acceptable punishment for our children is something that is evolved over time. now that kids are on line some parentsare using the platform to hand out punishment as well. consider the case of denise abbott who put an x over her daughter's mouth on her profile picture attached was statement i do not know how to keep my mouth shut. i'm no longer allowed on facebook or my phone. please ask why my mom says i have to answer everyone that asks. did this mom cross the line in your opinion? that mom denise abbott joins me to talk about this, denise, great to have you here. >> thank you. >> to talk about this. a lot of parents will perk up and listen to this, want to hear your firsthand account. explain what did eva do to get in so much trouble with you that you felt this was the needed punishment? >> well, she has a tendency to not know when to keep her mouth shut. you tell her you need to stop
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you've gone too far and she tends to not listen to that. she had three friends over this past friday night, and she got real mouthy to me in front of them, really rude, mean, i told her three times to stop. and the third time i said eva, you're going to be punished, i said you might want to think about it because it won't be a good thing. so you might enjoy your last night of freedom before we figure out what will happen. >> what is the -- in total, here is the public punishment. what is her total punishment. she is not here, she is still punished. >> she is grounded, yes. she is still grounded no fun when you're grounded you can't come to new york. so she rkt no facebook, no cell phone, no hanging out with friends. >> when you think about this being a very public punishment, is this the extreme modern day punishment of saying chastizing your kid in a store? >> what it was both of our -- i
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changed mine and her's, both our facebooks were private, the only people that even saw the posting to given with were the people that i was friends with and people she was friends with. it wasn't something that went out for anybody and everybody to see. and local news reporter saw it because i followed him on facebook, and contacted me about it and said i think it's kind of neat, do you want to talk about it. i said well sure. >> how is eva reacting, she apologized to you, right? trying to get out of the dog house. >> yes, i think she realizes when she didn't like herself in that position she realized i shouldn't have acted like that. >> how have parents reacted to you? >> all of my friends personally have been super supportive. they've all thought it was great and that they understand what my motivation was and what i was trying to achieve. of course i have some criticism from basically people i don't know. >> your daughter is freshly 13,
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you have the teen years ahead of you, a message, this too will pass. >> exactly. >> don't worry. but at least you know your mom has convictions. denise abbott, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> go ahead and scream because guess what you're going to get nothing. until your mouth is shut. >> a father secretly records his autistic son at school and discovers that teachers allegedly bullying his son. one of the teachers is fired, another removed from the class. is that enough? we have that dad to talk to, next.
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our next guest is getting a lot of attention this week, the father of 10-year-old akian shav vets. his father stewart wired his son and was shocked by hours of tape that he callowby the educators.
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>> oh, boy. knock it off. [ screams ] >> go ahead and scream. because guess what? you're going to get nothing. you going to see books in the library or are you looking at sculptures. >> joining me is stuart chaif vets, the father of akian. you must have been utterly shocked when you got this back. you thought something was up, but maybe you never thought what you were about to hear. >> when i listened to the entirety from the start of that day to the end, my life shattered. the pain that i felt for my son was just over realming to me, to know that he went through all of that harassment and bullying and that no adult in that room stood up for him was just one of the most devastating things i've ever experienced. >> stuart i want to tell
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everybody the teacher's aide was fired, the school superintendent said those raising their voices and making inappropriate remarks were fired. the head teacher was moved to another classroom, she wasn't in the room for part of the day and the one making the offensive comments. do you still think she should be held accountable. >> i read her press release. she said she wasn't there for one hour, the first hour. what about the other 5 1/2 hours of the day? the bullying and appropriate comments happened throughout the day. there are times when you can hear her. she talks about me at the beginning of the day, she talks about other parents. there was a lot going on. let's pretend the first hour didn't happen. everything else adds up to that teacher should not be in that classroom in my opinion. it was just wrong. the entirety of that day was just wrong. >> stuart, there's a lot on this
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tape that have shocked people. a lot of people curious. how is akian? how is your son? >> i protected him from this whole thing. once he was removed from that class, he never lashed out at anybody. she's been perfect. he's safe. people from around the world have been sending their love, and it's wonderful. and wanted to thank everyone. >> real quickly before we let you go, i know you're working on legislation that you want to get passed to help protect other kids from having to go through anything like this in the future. tell us about that and how far along you are. >> actually i was contacted by a state senator yesterday, and it was gratifying to hear that. apparently there is some movement because new jersey has one of the strongest anti-bullying laws in the nation. we want to make sure teachers are included in that. i want to thank her for that, and i think maybe there's some
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real hope of getting change here, some real good will come from this campaign. >> stuart chaifetz, thank you for joining us. we thank you for sharing time with us this morning. >> i appreciate it. >> that will wrap things up for me today. i'll see you back here on monday every weekday morning. until there you can follow me on twitter. i'm getting ready to go down top washington, d.c. for the nerd prom. tweet me and let me know who you want pictures of. i'll try to snag them. "now with alex wagner" is coming up live. she's already in washington, d.c. alex is next. if you're one of those folks who gets heartburn and then treats day after day... well, shoot, that's like checking on your burgers after they're burnt! [ male announcer ] treat your frequent heartburn by blocking the acid with prilosec otc.
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