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weighing eight pounds and six ounces who is now the third in the line to the british throne. the name will be the next surprise. but thank you so much for watching. chris matthews and "hardball" is next. another prince here today. god save the queen. >> let's play "hardball \sgood evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. and we're following the breaking news from london tonight where probably the most anticipated birth in the world took place earlier today. the baby boy was born just over five and a half hours ago to the duchess of cambridge, wife of prince william.
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the new royal heir third in line to the throne weighsal pounds six ounces born at 4:24 london time today, 11:24 on the east coast here in america. there's no word yet on his name. but he already has a title, prince of cambridge. the palace says both mother and child are doing well. prince william was present for the birth. very modern fellow. buckingham palace says queen elizabeth the great grandmother is delighted with the in news and prince charles said he was happy to be a grandfather for the first time. prime minister david cameron, he was elected, by the way, celebrated the royal birth just moments ago. >> it's wonderful news from st. mary's paddington. i'm sure right across the country and indeed right across the commonwealth, people will be celebrating and wishing the royal couple well. it is an important moment in the life of our nation. but i suppose above all, it's a wonderful moment for a warm and loving couple who got a brand-new baby boy.
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it's been a remarkable few years for our royal family. a royal wedding that captured people's hearts, that extraordinary and magnificent jubilee and now this royal birth. all from a family that will have given this nation so much incredible service. and they can know that a proud nation is celebrating with a very proud and happy couple tonight. >> that was david cameron who leads the tory party in britain. nbc's michelle kosinski is standing by in london. what do you think new on this? healthy baby, it's a boy which an lals the issue of what would have happened if it was a girl, first in history primogenitor of in history of being a girl. >> that would have been the first time in a thousand years of british royal history it's happened. it's interesting how the entire
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world kept saying it's a girl. it's definitely a girl. people were quoting friends of theirs who work within the palace saying i know it's a girl. there was one broker betting firm that will actually paid out already. paid out early. it seems like the way this all started was that the duchess of cambridge was incorrectly quoted as almost giving away the gender of her child and all the headlines the next day were splashed with did kate give it away. that was incorrectly done. she actually didn't say what was reported. that seemed to have stuck. now that it really is a boy, it adds to the excitement and the surprise that this is a prince. it will be the first prince of cambridge in nearly 200 years. as you mentioned, we don't yet know the name of the boy. another big surprise was the announcement came four hours after the birth. that's still a question that remains. was everything okay at the time. you know, this was a very large baby. nearly 8 1/2 pounds.
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the palace said mother and child are doing fine. people are curious why it took such a long time for the announcement to come out. at least now everyone knows everything is okay and kate and baby will stay in the hospital along with prince william through the night. >> in my day of, my wife kathleen having children, our three children, you could tell it was a boy for sure, but you couldn't tell for sure it was not a boy. is that still the case? >> really? i don't know. but i love the way everyone that you speak to has their own theory and they really go by their own family wisdom. it's especially been interesting so many questions have arisen over, oh, the dutch yes, sir is late. what does this mean for the health of the child. in the uk i've been told that the date is more flexible. they'll give you a date but it could happen two weeks after the fact. everybody kind of has their own personal stories to go by comparing it to the royal baby. this is the first time i've played "hardball" about the
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royal baby, chris. it just goes to show that the world is really interested in this. and you know, we all know that the press has been catched out here for weeks. i think that added to the excitement, kind of added pun to it because back home, all the viewers are watching day to day. there's kind of nothing to report. but again there kind of is. the fact there isn't anything to report becomes part of the story. this is exciting for britain. one of the most recent statements came from prince billium himself who had a five-word statement. we could not be happier. the queen may have beaten him with a up with word statement. they've had a great year and a half really since the olympics and before that, there was the royal wedding. they've been winning big sports competitions. they could not be happier. buzz here is hard to describe in
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words. but even when you go back to the u.s. and you see, i find myself surprised to see kate's picture all over "us" magazines, regularly. i think to myself, wow, the electrical really is that will high here that her face is selling these celebrity magazines and you know, you talk to people that you know and they will might even roll their eyes about coverage of the royal baby or act like they have better things to talk to. almost immediately after, they're asking you about the royal baby. just kind of one of those things that happens i guess, chris. >> hang in there, michelle. we're joined by london bureau chief for the daily beast, tom sikes. and the washington post eugene robinson is sitting here with me. we covered for years in the 1990s the london bureau. let's gossip. this is fun. i was always rooting for her, maybe because she's beautiful. just because i always liked her looks. she seemed regular and beautiful, as well. he will sort of dropped her for a while.
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come on, let's talk about that. then she had a big comeback like bill clinton, a big comeback. what was all that about. >> it's a great romantic comedy. who knows what happened actually inside the relationship? she's a very attractive person, a commoner, not. >> no royal lineage at all. >> and they make a very attractive couple. this is a good period for the british monarchy. i was in london during the early '90s when prince charles and princess diana's marriage was falling apart and all the stuff was coming out on tape and overheard and everything was being leaked. they were for a while in separate courts essentially in london. that was a bad patch. and after they separated it got even worse. annus horribilus. a very, very bad year. this is a good year. this is a good period. the family is extraordinarily good at branding and
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self-renewal. they pulled it off. >> they seem to be working every generation on the gene pool. they brought in diana to help william along. now they brought in a beautiful woman. is there ever going to be an average looking queen again or are we in the age of television and "people" magazine now? >> well, i think you're absolutely right, chris. it's good that they've brought in some good hearty peasant stock in the shape of the middletons to revitalize that hopelessly inbred royal blood. assets exactly what they needed. it's exactly what the royal family needed. kate middleton has kicked this family into the 21st century. make no mistake about it. you know, everything has been led by her. absolutely every decision they've made. you know, one of the very telling things early on when they moved to this little farmhouse in wales and they had this little life, on the first
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day, this woman showed up and said hello, i'm your new housekeeper. kate looked at her and said i'm sorry, thinking it was some kind of tabloid sting or something. and said i'm really sorry. she said no, no, the palace hired me. kate rang the palace and said what are you doing? they said you need someone to do your shopping. you need someone top clean the house. she said you know what? i can do my own shopping. thank you very much. me and william can load the dishwasher ourselves. you know? that's fine. please don't send us any more staff. actually, that was why there were a lot of those pictures of kate doing her shopping in the kind of local supermarket because she was just like, i don't care, if i have to take a protection officer with me, i don't want someone doing my shop. she's very adamant about them sort of staying in touch and you know, kate's really got that kind of common touch thing down to a tee. >> i think you've been drinking the kool-aid, tom.
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she's out shopping. gee, whiz, isn't that wonderful. i'm giving you a hard time on some of this royal stuff. gene, the way people live today, we live pretty long. men live pretty long. if you look at queen elizabeth, she's not quitting can the ranch. she's going to be around. she's not going to abdicate. she's going to be around forever. and charles will be in his 90s by the time he gets the throne. you bet he and camilla will grab it for a week if they can get it. when it will be will's turn and when it will be the prince of cambridge's job? we're talking 0 yearser. >> the baby has long, long princehoods to look forward to. the queen's mother lived into her 100s. queen elizabeth doesn't believe in leaving a job that she has done. >> when is charlie likely to get it?
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>> the date you're reaching for, the date you're reaching for is 2070. that's when this child will be on the throne. if william has a decent innings. we've got a feature in tomorrow's "newsweek" all about what will the monarchy look like in 2070. all these fantastic people to contribute their ideas of what the monarchy will be like. >> tom, i love your math. did you do it like elizabeth ii will last to 100 and charles will come in and make it to 95 and you've done it that way? is that how you've done it. >> yeah, they're a very long lived family. the queen mother lived till like she was 102. there's no reason why the queen shouldn't go till she's 100. she's got no intention of abdicating. once in awhile i call the palace when i'm having a slow news day and say to them, do you think the queen's going to abdicate anytime soon? they always say if i refer you to the queen's speech where she said she would dedicate her
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entire life to the service of the british people, the key words in that phrase are "entire life." she's not going anywhere, chris. >> okay, so, tom, while you've got the hot hand here, what do you tell a kid like the now alive his highness prince of cambridge, at what point do they tell him he only has one job, to have an heir? and he'd better have one in a only time in his 20s for example or latest early 30s? when do you tell the kid, that's your only role in life is to procreate? >> i'm sorry, but all of us our only role in life is to procreate. that is -- it's just the monarchy is simply a formalized version of that. you know? i don't see what the big problem is. if none of us have kids, the human race will be wiped out anyway. >> let me offer a republican in a british sense.
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it seems to me what they've done is -- >> it's a very bad day to be a british republican. >> i agree with that. >> a very bad day to be a british republican. >> here's the situation. i think what's made the royal family last 50 years or so has been their rejuvenation of the family through marriage. i mean i guess diana who we all loved had some kind of aristocratic background. >> did she ever. much deeper than that of this current royal family. >> a fairy tale where the king or the prince in this case goes out looking for the most attractive. >> the spencers. >> it is a fairy tale. >> they're more noble. >> they thought the windsors were a bit common. but whatever. >> the windsors were -- the windsors where did windsor come from? their an real name is sax coberg and they changed their name to windsor around world war ii. >> so at the became month batten. >> to have a german surname. >> my point is the -- they're
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the beloved people's princess diana and the new kate middleton have been loved on sight. the first time we saw them in people", we fell for them. al obviously very beautiful women. now we move on to a royal family more and more governed for its success by the latest bride. >> the family does what it must. the family rebrands itself as it must. it has done so and will go on and on. they're very good at this fairy tale stuff. >> tom, could they have picked, could will have fallen for someone any more perfect for the role than the woman we're looking at right now who's just become a mother? >> she absolutely ticks every single box there is. but the thing is, the thing you've got to remember about the windsors, the sax coberg, whatever we want to call them, the british monarchy, i don't think lease an institution in
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the world that's been managing the press for longer than they have except maybe the papacy. i think possibly the papacy have been doing it a little bit longer. but the royals have been managing the press fantastically well with one rather major blip called princess diana for since the press was has existed. so they know exactly what people are looking for and yeah, kate ticks all those boxes. i mean, the complaint that you get about kate when you do get complaints is the kind of complaint that the hillary man tell made that she's almost too perfect that she's liking this sort of prefabricated doll that's just dressed up, you know, and is just totally compliant and blah, blah, blah. there is oddly -- although we love kate, there is something oddly kind of 1950s about her. there is. the kind of how many pairs of lk bennett shoes can one woman own? i don't know. >> i'm with you on this.
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i take none of the -- i put no sting in it, i think he's wonderful. we're back with michelle kosinski. tom sikes and eugene robinson in a minute. the royal baby is here. it's the son, a boy. title of prince of cambridge. his name will be announced we're told in due time. this is "hardball," the place for politics. when we made our o the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. our commitment has never been stronger. wi drive a ford fusion. who is healthier, you or your car? i would say my car. probably the car. cause as you get older you start breaking down.
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there's some of the headlines from papers in new england already as they celebrate the arrival of a royal baby who is now third in line to the british throne. we're back with michelle kosinski over in london and time sikes after the daily beast and eugene robinson.
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we're joined by "time" magazine's he's belinda luskin. thank you for joining us, belinda. a lot of us in america and keep up with all these incredible magazines that keep us up to date with celebrities had no idea how powerful the tie was till princess diana was killed in that car accident. it brought it home to people in the news business. you couldn't put this aside. you could say fluff and personality press. but in effect, it was in our souls, especially with women. and i learned that it wasn't about lady i di being attractive or anything like that. it was about her being a woman, being a mother and having gone through hell. in this case, it's much more is delightful. but the identification of the american people with a british royal who is a woman is awesome i think more than a pretty prince or something. it's about a mother who is also a future queen. >> i totally agree, chris.
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it's going to be interesting to see now how we treat her as she's a mother because as you know, even since princess diana's day, motherhood has become a much more judgmental place. every motherhood decision that people make is judged much more harshly and much more tightly. there's a lot more scrutiny. for kate, she may want to think the honeymoon especially with the american people and the mommy bloggers, it may well be over. one false move and people will be coming down on her, i'd say. >> let me go back to michelle. as a beat over in london, how big do you think it's going to be, the royal coverage as part of your role over there keepi i up with this family. >> do you mean nbc or the press across the board. >> either way you want to do it. >> well, you know, we were all talking about this. we've been endlessly talking about this because it has been a
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big global story. it's not like even if someone didn't want to get involved with it, it's like you can ignore it. you just said that. it's everywhere and people want to know about it. we know that because we see the number of hits online. we were talking earlier, you know, great, the baby's here. now we can sort of if we want to maybe move on to other things. but wait a second. now the baby's here. the baby's going to be here forever, baby's going to get older, go to school, get married, have more babies. this is really -- it is a part of -- i don't want to say it's a part of our live but it's part of our culture and what we like to look at. one of my favorite scientific studies i've ever read was telling. it studied some chimps. and it found out that the chimps when they were given videos of chimps to watch within their chimp group, they didn't want to watch the regular chimps. they wanted to watch the celebrity chimps. the chimps in their own group who had an extraordinaire role,
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who were bigger, stronger who, did crazy things, who tried to get attention. the point was, even you know low level primates like to watch celebrities. we as people like to watch people who have an extraordinarily privileged position. we just do. it must be in our systems that we like to watch people who are in positions that we could never possibly be in and see how they react to it. it is a strange feeling looking at the extent of coverage, especially in the british press because there are so many newspapers that are in fierce competition with each other. they like to push the envelope with the way we do coverage. nbc an american news outlets pretty much dial it back. we're okay sometimes with reporting things after it's all played out. and the actual truth has come out of it. not so much with all the british press. they go wild with rumors and speculation and make up their
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own stories when there's nothing really to report. so it's at times a little disturbing because you have to realize these are human beings. i think what touches me as i'm standing here outside this hospital, way up there, there is a little hospital room, very nice hospital room, and there's a young mother and father in there and of's watching them and they have to be half excited and overjoyed and half nervous and scared like oh, my god, we're parents now. we have to take care of this baby regardless of how much help they're going to have. so it's a little odd to remember these are human beings that the whole world is watching. but they're part of british history. they are legitimately a part of the history of this nation. and royal history is very interesting and hey, we all want to look at it. >> one last question on that front on the chimpanzee front. how do you get to be the it chimp? >> yeah. let me go back to gene.
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>> you do things -- >> go ahead. >> you do things that are crazy. you try to get attention. and those are the celebrity chimps. go look up this report survey believe you. >> i found it fascinating >> we all come from some link way back where to the celebrity chichs somewhere. >> but you know, you want to see a frenzy of insane coverage from my experience in london, let william and kate hit a bad patch in their marriage. and let somebody find out about it. it will be nothing like this. it will be a shark feeding frenzy. >> you mean they didn't speak at ascot. >> when charles and diana were going through that, it was just. >> tom sikes, last word on the importance of today. mr. sikes over there. >> well, i think that the main thing that i'm worried about is that the headlines tomorrow are going to be that an nbc reporter has been locked in the tower for comparing william and kate to
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celebrity chimps. but hey, hopefully she will be okay. it's a super day. it's a super day here in london. you can hear on the streets, you can just hear the excitement. people are thrilled. people are thrilled. but you know what? we're not stupid. you know? and we do know that it's, you know, it's a kind of show. you know? and it's a little distraction from what's going on in people's real lives. it is an important one. it provides a sense of continuity i think the. >> it was a big day for me already hearing from michelle with that anthropology and for the first time in my life, i never thought i would hear martin bashir rooting for rich people. thank you, michelle, thank you belinda, tom sikes you're something. and eugene robinson. up next the special relationship between the uk and the u.s., two countries separated. winston churchill once said by a common language. this is "hardball," the place for politics. en heart surgery... when she was only fifteen hours old. handing her over for surgery is the hardest thing i've...
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to join with the people of the united kingdom as they celebrate the birth of the young prince. michelle kosinski joins us from st. mary's hospital. bureau chief there. joining me also is andrew roberts, a british historian and autumn brewington who covers the royal family for the "washington post." michelle, i'm wondering about how we're leading the story. is nbc nightly going to lead with the story tonight? >> i don't actually know. we've been tied up with what we're doing here. i'm curious to know too whether this is the top story of the night. i mean, it's been breaking news all over twitter. we've seen so many headlines on it already. isurprised, but i don't know a lot of what else has been going on in the world today. there might be something that trumps it, but i'm not sure, chris. >> i don't think so. looking at it from our news bureau over here, you've got the big story of the night. let me go to autumn. what are going to be the side
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stories here in the stories where people, journalists look for something added besides guess what, we've got a baby boy. >> now we're looking for what's his name, what didn't we know during the four hours they were able to be have some private time while the media circus was going on, what other details can we find out. >> when you look at the naming, it seems like there was a long pattern in the beginning of the 20th century back and forth, edward, george, edward, george. is there any compelling nature to that rhythm where they have to go back to that in. >> no, at the beginning of the 20th century, is the really senior royals had eight first names or eight given names. and so now we can expect four. but it might be a couple days before we find out what they have chose. >> and which name they use is sometimes different than which is the first, right? >> yes. yes. that's so the queen's father was king george vi, but his first name was albert. he was known to his family as
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bertie. >> edward viii was david. >> his family called him david, yes. >> what's the betting for the name? where is it heading? to another charles or where are we headed? >> i think they were looking at george? i haven't seen it for a few minutes. >> that's very british, st. george, of course. you can't go wrong with george. will let me go back to andrew roberts. your thoughts on how this story is going to grow over the next week. i get a feeling they're not going to stop with this story. first of all, natural delivery say big story, a healthy baby with a healthy mother. >> that's right. a lot of people saying she was too posh to push have been proved totally wrong because she spent ten hours pushing and she's pushed out a very big baby. in can the fa, the same weight as i was when i was born. and so i think that we can see she's actually not toot posh to
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pu to push. the name is important. george is the name of the queen's father. that would be a nice tribute to the queen. also, i think that the continuing interest in the story will become part of the story itself. the fact that there are so many americans, for example, who are tuned in watching this story seems extraordinaire for an english mann. >> i think, while you're still on, andrew, i think it's the language. i always worry about our country getting into two-language situations. everyone ought to learn english as a first language and another language, maybe the land of your ancestry. sticking to english is the working language of the country. in britain, everybody beak speaks english. that has resulted in a united kingdom to this extent. isn't it important? to our special relationship that we can read each newspapers, like each others movies, like
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each other's music? it ties us. >> the way's extended because of american power and because of the british empire to canada, australia, 18% of indians speak english, as well has been an extraordinaire development across the whole globe. >> isn't that the why golf is popular? >> golf did you say? >> golf. >> the game of golf. >> might be popular with you. what do you mean. >> i think one reason is because we all cover these tournaments and there seem to be so many english speaking golf tournaments. >> you didn't watch cricket. it's all in english, as well. >> we've got a game almost as slow. and we've built it up ourselves. let me go to autumn on this thing. what is the role of the british monarchy today in british life? is it just to read the pretty -- look at the pretty pictures? ? is there any role in america in british leadership? charles would talk about bad architecture or the need to improve architecture or these
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sort of off the wall ob segs. is there any way the british people are led by the royal family. >> what you just said is exactly right. they're led by the british royal family. it's a constitutional monarchy. the officials whom they elect, but they also have this family which from the time of the queen's parents, you know, it's been instilled in the queen and the way that she has led her family is they are supposed to put forward you know, the face of the best of british life. and so you know, ordinary britons today might not have any interaction with the royals but they can look and see the royal family as something that's above politics, a real continuity and you know, a real pat of their culture. >> are they allowed to vote? >> the royals? >> yeah. >> i think everybody but the queen. she sort of, when she does her ceremonial things and reads her speech at the beginning of parliament when she opens parliament, those remarks she's reading have been written for
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her by the government. >> i see. >> thank you, michelle cozin circumstance thank you andrew roberts and autumn brewington. up next, the royal family is as popular as ever and the birth of the baby is a real boone to the country. everybody wants to go to buckingham palace. we'll be right back. you're watching "hardball," believe it or not, the place for politics. i've been taking a multivitamin for years. centrum silver. both of us actually. our pharmacist recommended it. and that makes me feel pretty good about it. and then i heard about a study looking at multivitamins
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expected earnings and says that young boys are shifting away from traditional toys like the action figures in favor of electronics. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now backing to chris and "hardball." welcome back to "hardball." an eight pound six ounces, britain's newest member of the royal family copull serious weight, pun there, with england's economy. according to the center for retail research, england's economy stands to inherit a little bundle of economic joy with today's news. tourists could spend about $240 million on food and alcohol in celebration just in celebration. and more than $130 million could be spent on memorabilia. not a bad stimulus for a country that's been struggling to regain its economic footing right now. get this high net work the analysts say the royal baby
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could inherit as much as $1 billion in his lifetime. what's the real value of the royal family for britain? can it be measured in pounds and pence? dan gross is a columnist and global business editor at the daily beast and peter foster is the u.s. editor of the daily telegraph. gentlemen, i guess we're going to find out right now. dan, on this whole question, it seems to me when americans when they retire like my parents did, the first thing they do is plan a two-week trip if they're lucky to europe. and the first stop is london. for a lot of reasons. it's the most familiar. they figure it's going to be clean and simple. and traditional. and no surprises and they can speak english wherever they go. now with a beautiful royal family enhanced by the new boy, the new heir to the throne, what's that going to do to the sellability of britain? >> i think stimulus is defined as getting money off the sidelines and getting it spent that would otherwise not be spent. and from that perspective, this
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is a pretty successful stimulus. just think of the money that american news organizations have spent on hotels and overtime and food covering this. and that's really just the beginning. what it shows is that forget about the domestic market. for the international market, which with when people come to visit, that's an export, the royal family is a very big draw, whether it's people watching the wedding on tv or online or people coming to visit buckingham palace or any of the other royal sites in royal london. it's a huge generator of economic traffic, and you know, it really doesn't require all that much i would say on going investment. the infrastructure in many cases was built centuries ago. >> peter foster, how much goss does glamour have to play? i wonder whether there would be interest in what camilla is up to. they're interested in this beautiful young couple having a child as they were with charles when he married deanna, the
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honeymoon part. does it is have to meet a standard of glamour as well as tradition? >> i think that's right. it's a long-term investment. we talk about the short-term stimulus being something in the range of $400 million. the olympics brought in nearly $15 billion in addition business. but this is a great long-term outcome for the brand, the royal brand which as you were saying is what brings americans to britain in the droves. we bring thes always found it baffling the americans so love the royal family. but you have for a long time. it's the same deal now. i think you know, william particularly looks very much like his mother. this is the continuation of a tradition. when the boys come over to america, they draw big crowds and huge interests. and in some ways, this ensures the longevity of the brand for years to come.
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so short-term stimulus certainly but actually had, this is the kind of couple, she's picture perfect, isn't she? are going to keep rolling into britain and god knows we need them. >> dan gross, is the royal family worth up to a billion it's been estimated the young boy will get in his lifetime? is it worth it for the british economy to pay the royal family these sups for basically just being they will selves? >> i don't think they're going to pay him a billion dollars. he'll inherit property that is worth that. they will do pay some taxes on a voluntary basis. from a branding perspective, you know, companies and countries spend lots of money on advertising campaigns and things that will attract and improve their image. if this is one of those things that does it for britten, i guess it's money well spent. it's difficult to calculate the importance of confidence and people feeling good about
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themselves. britain has labored these last many years under an economic lack of confidence. the consumer confidence level is negative and has been so for many months. they have austerity. what they need is people to feel better about themselves so they'll spend more, borrow more, invest a little more. this is the sort of thing that can get people to do that on a more sustained basis or if it's something that contributes to that, then it's a net positive. >> well said. it adds to the nation's morale and good feeling. thank you, dan gross. peter foster, as well. back with more on the royal baby. third in line to the british throne. this kid's going to be king some day. this is had, the place for politics. i want to make things more secure.
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back to "hardball." let's go back to london for lon minute. michelle kosinski who joins us from st. mary's hospital where the duchess of cambridge has just given birth to a baby boy. third in line now to the british throne. michelle, tell us about what this young boy now faces in terms of growing up. >> you know, just think of him up there right now, and for months and months and months at least likely blissfully unaware of what exactly he has gotten himself into by coming into this world. it will be, you know, just the press will crowd this family. from the time he steps out of here, well, he won't be stepping out of here. he'll be carried out of here. at least that's what we're expecting, we'll have cameras in his face, trained on him.
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virtually everything he does and every move he makes, you know, as much as he is in the public eye. so in that sense, you do sort of feel sorry for a child. but it brings back memories of when prince william was little, and the first time he was really shown on camera as a toddler. they do maintain a good deal of privacy, especially for a child. and the press can be quite respectful, at least they were when prince william was little. but he was adorable. he was this chubby-cheeked little guy who would run around and always do sort of the thing you didn't expect him to do. and the cameras, of course, ate it up. what do we like to look at on line? animals, children, accidents, the unexpected. and what a child adds is that element of the unexpected. sometimes covering royal events, royal appearances, they're so scripted. they can be a little bit boring. you know exactly what is going to happen. you know how it will go.
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people don't want anything bad to the happen, but wouldn't we all love something unexpected to happen? people have a laugh about it. and when princess diana got married, i mean, she was so young, she was 19 years old. she would have her moments of making a little mistake or being shy. now that kate was ten years older than she was, you did get this sense of this whole thing is very well maintained. it's perfectly trimmed and groomed, and everybody is out there to sparkle and do exactly what we expect them to do. having a kid around, of course, will change that up. the cameras will want to see how this kid reacts to all the attention. it was funny when william was little. i remember looking at this great video. it was prince andrew's wedding to sarah ferguson. and prince william was 4 years old. and he was just so naughty. he was one of the attendants in the wedding. he was one of the little boys that walks with the flower girls. and he had a little sword attached to his sailor outfit.
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he kept trying to get the sword out. and he would make face. he would act like he was bored stiff. he would play with his hat and put it on the back of his head. when everything was leaving, he was waving and making faces around trying to get attention, what seemed to him nearly getting run over by a carriage, and the queen breaking out into a run for a couple of seconds to try to get him out of the way of that carriage. i think that was the only time i've ever seen video of the queen actually running with arms pumping to save prince william. so we see that also in america. when there is a child in the white house, starting with the kennedys, how adorable those moments are. because i think first of all, you have the unexpected. you have the adorable child. and then you get to see the family element. and it really humanizes the adults involved. you get to see some of that humanness, those little moments that often aren't exactly what we might expect when everything is scripted. very sweet. >> michelle kosinski, wonderful,
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let me finish tonight with this. 100 years ago, the most important fact in the world is that we the united states and the united kingdom spoke the same language. 100 years from now, the same will hold true. we connect with england and she with us for the basic reason that both of us speak english. neither of our countries likes
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learning other languages. we love the beauty and richness of our own which increases in strength by the way globally year by year, even if we speak with different accents. our actors, the best are often english or australian. our tv stars, mike. j. fox, dan aykroyd and all the rest come from canada. we share the same movie stars, the same books, increasingly the same news people and commentators. we sing and hum the same songs. and when it counts, we are with the brits and they with us, from the falklands to iraq and back to two world wars. when troubles come, our two flags fly as one. tommy and g.i. joe go to war together. and sometimes we even get the problems that arise between us to the point of rooting for the other side like in that great memorable scene from "love actually". >> i love that word relationship. it covers all manner of since, doesn't it? i fear that this has become a bad relationship. i a relationship based on the president taking exactly what he
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wants and casually ignoring all those things that really matter to britain. we may be a small country, but we're a great one too. a country of shakespeare, churchill, the beatles, sean connery, harry potter. david beckham's right foot. david beckham's left foot come to that matter. a friend who bullies us is no longer a friend. and since bullies only respond to strength, from now on i will be prepared to be much stronger. and the president should be prepared for that. >> wow. yes, we're that close to the rooting for the other guy, especially when it's our guy being the bad guy. the special relationship is for real, and now we have a new baby in the family. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now.
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thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the right wing's ugly response to president obama's historic speech on race. it was a serious personal speech. but that's not what rush limbaugh heard. >> obama is all about creating chaos and upsetting the order of things. he is all about stirring the pot. and generally, involving things that have to do with race. this is i think what obama said is classic. it is entirely unsurprising. and furthermore, expected that he would go out and say something like this. he's got to keep his consistency happy. he's got to keep his base happy. he's got civil rights coalition breathing down his back because he hasn't actad